I've had excellent results using condenser mics placed 1-2 feet back,sounds very natural and less grainy than placing a dynamic type mic up close...sounds more ambient and smoother.
@spentonmediocrity ...and sometimes that is absolutely an appropriate technique. There are as many ways to accomplish any goal you have in recording as there are grains of sand on a beach. No one way is the best, and every situation calls for something unique. Often moving back with a condenser mic is called for, sometimes close mic'ing with a dynamic mic is called for, and other times you'll want a ribbon mic [etc.]
Great stuff. I was wondering, though, if you guys might consider doing a video that shows how to sort out the phase issues that you run into when recording multiple mics like this. I understand what's going on in theory, but physically addressing the issue in my DAW would be totally new.
@jcshirke Thanks for the suggestion, it's a very good idea... not sure when we will get to it, but completely agree that it's something that we should address in this series. We take a number of our techniques for granted here, and are constantly finding that there is more we could be explaining, but at the same time are trying to keep the videos short, so people don't nod off. In the meantime if you need gear suggestions and recording help, we are always just a phone call away.
@PalantirBlackMetal The mics do make a huge difference regardless of the style of application, but the technique will typically benefit most open-back cabinets.
Hello guys !!! I know a friend of mine who gets a " sleeper " to record Elec guitars as you do , it's an old Fostex ribbon the M88RP it's STUNNING !!! great video as always !!! How is Fletcher ??? ;-)
@nicolasrivera We have more clips coming... We released this video first because we felt that showing the fidelity of these beautiful microphones, and the tonal subtlety and dynamic range was far more impressive than squaring things off with some distorted electric sounds... anyhow, we will be sure and get some more of that happening in the near term for you, so you can hear just how easy those types of tones are to achieve with a Royer R121 or R101.
@nicolasrivera Well, typically the "off angle" has a bit more to do with the propensity for air pressure to over stress a ribbon, rather than SPL, but it is a reasonable point. Coles 4038's were rather prone to overstressing, for example, as they were a far more fragile microphone to begin with. The Royer's are far more resilient, which make them a wonderful candidate for a lot of louder sources, and for that matter, even live performance. Really terrific microphones for this purpose.
@nicolasrivera Well, typically the "off angle" has a bit more to do with the propensity for air pressure to over stress a ribbon, rather than SPL, but it is a reasonable point. Coles 4038's were rather prone to overstressing, for example, as they were a far more fragile microphone to begin with. The Royer's are far more resilient, which make them a wonderful candidate for a lot of louder sources, and for that matter, even live performance. Really terrific microphones for this purpose.
Ribbon mics are great for subtle, quiet guitar styles (soft blues, Jazz, etc)...but turn that amp "up to 11" with distortion/overdrive, etc, and a ribbon may not be the best fit.
@riffism That an interesting comment, and true of "some" ribbons... the Royer 121 (this being the Royer 101 is also a great choice), have long been one of the de-facto standards for hot, distorted electric guitar recordings. Both of these Royers have great resiliance and high SPL handling capabilities, making them an excellent choice. Honestly, the distorted tones are easier to produce in a lot of ways, the real "art" of a microphone comes out when there is more subtlety and dynamics.
@makerKID5 The hand-made Victoria Ivy League absolutely smokes anything we've heard coming off the Fender line in decades. If you haven't had the opportunity to play a Victoria, they are basically like masterful vintage Fender recreations. Imagine enjoying a 1960's hand-built Fender back when they were brand new- welcome to the Victoria amps! One of our absolutely favorite lines, and a studio both in our guitar department and in the studio here.
@soundpurestudios I just went to my local music store (I'm actually still here) I didn't see any (Victoria amps) I wanted to get a new "practice" amp it would also double as a studio amp,I did some research this amp has an excellent tone I was actually looking into a few Vox and Orange amps (combo) until I stumbled onto this video I want this amp! & on top of that this video reminded me of the Vintech x73i!
@makerKID5 Yep, completely understand... you tend not to find these serious boutique amps in the local music stores, although there are a handful that carry them.
We can absolutely help you with your next amp purchase. We have an incredible selection of amps here, and would love to help you with your upgrades now and in the future. Plus, you will have access to our full team of experts for advice!
@soundpurestudios Just noticed the website in the description has a store! This is amazing but do you ship to Canada (Southern Ontario)? I'm totally in love the tone of the Ivy League (mostly from the videos on Victoria's channel) I understand that YouTube's compression slightly alters the sound but I'm confident this amp is what I'm looking for 14 Watts perfect! would you recommend taking a look at any other amp in their line though? I think this is one of the best things I've ever heard!
This was awesome! Thank you very much, but i was wondering if you could do something similar with like a $200 cap on mic's? I know you guys deal with higher end things and you put a lot of time into your videos, so maybe at least could you give me some advice?
@DalelCampbell In that price range, you can certainly attain something reasonable with a pair of SM57's... but they really won't sound anywhere nearly as lush. Perhaps we could get you into a relatively inexpensive ribbon mic for the front (like this gorgeous Royer R101), and just use the SM57 for the back. You will find that investing in the finer things proves to be a worthwhile move, because great gear can last a lifetime.
@soundpurestudios yes great advice I use the Shure SM57's all the time I usually capture I reasonably good signal, but you guys have an amazing sounding preamp not to mention top converters!
@makerKID5 Thanks- things could certainly be better than a 57 but they are surely a very utilitarian microphone for guitar cabinets, and certainly a good value for the money... it all boils down to budget and priorities- Recording vs. Live Sound, Mics vs. Preamps, Guitar sound vs. Vocal Sound etc. We are constantly helping our customers make difficult budgetary decisions and helping them determine the best next upgrade! Really hope we will have the opportunity to help you too!
I've had excellent results using condenser mics placed 1-2 feet back,sounds very natural and less grainy than placing a dynamic type mic up close...sounds more ambient and smoother.
spentonmediocrity 3 days ago
@spentonmediocrity ...and sometimes that is absolutely an appropriate technique. There are as many ways to accomplish any goal you have in recording as there are grains of sand on a beach. No one way is the best, and every situation calls for something unique. Often moving back with a condenser mic is called for, sometimes close mic'ing with a dynamic mic is called for, and other times you'll want a ribbon mic [etc.]
All that matters is the desired result!
soundpurestudios 2 days ago
Great stuff. I was wondering, though, if you guys might consider doing a video that shows how to sort out the phase issues that you run into when recording multiple mics like this. I understand what's going on in theory, but physically addressing the issue in my DAW would be totally new.
jcshirke 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@jcshirke Thanks for the suggestion, it's a very good idea... not sure when we will get to it, but completely agree that it's something that we should address in this series. We take a number of our techniques for granted here, and are constantly finding that there is more we could be explaining, but at the same time are trying to keep the videos short, so people don't nod off. In the meantime if you need gear suggestions and recording help, we are always just a phone call away.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
This is an excellent tip and I'm sure it'd work for any type of music. Thank you! I'm sure those mics help as well...
PalantirBlackMetal 1 month ago
@PalantirBlackMetal The mics do make a huge difference regardless of the style of application, but the technique will typically benefit most open-back cabinets.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
This is awesome, at the the last few gigs I have played at w have used this technique (with 57's) and it sounds grrrreat.
AntonioDavidPickett 1 month ago
@AntonioDavidPickett Good to hear, it can work well on open back amps in live settings as well... can nicely expand and open things up.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
absolutely love this. will be sharing this on my facebook page and with a few friends. keep up the great work!
newnessmusic 1 month ago
@newnessmusic Thanks for spreading the word about what we are doing at our shop!
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
Glad this wasn't expert village. Their how to would have gone something like this:
Step 1- Buy a roll of scotch tape
Step 2- Go to radio shack and get a pair of headphones
Step 3. plug head phones into the mic input on your computer soundcard
Step 4- tape your headphones onto the front of your amp
Step 5- Enjoy!
DefenceSpeech 1 month ago in playlist Recording Studio How'-To's - Tutorials from SoundPure 2
@DefenceSpeech Thanks for saying so! Glad we aren't expert village too!
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
Hello guys !!! I know a friend of mine who gets a " sleeper " to record Elec guitars as you do , it's an old Fostex ribbon the M88RP it's STUNNING !!! great video as always !!! How is Fletcher ??? ;-)
remyleloup1 1 month ago
Hey, nice, but where is the take with that fender cranked all the way up???
nicolasrivera 1 month ago
@nicolasrivera We have more clips coming... We released this video first because we felt that showing the fidelity of these beautiful microphones, and the tonal subtlety and dynamic range was far more impressive than squaring things off with some distorted electric sounds... anyhow, we will be sure and get some more of that happening in the near term for you, so you can hear just how easy those types of tones are to achieve with a Royer R121 or R101.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
@soundpurestudios If i remember correctly Ribbon mic's should be angled with loud db's, the sound pressure could ruin the ribbon right?
nicolasrivera 1 month ago
@nicolasrivera Well, typically the "off angle" has a bit more to do with the propensity for air pressure to over stress a ribbon, rather than SPL, but it is a reasonable point. Coles 4038's were rather prone to overstressing, for example, as they were a far more fragile microphone to begin with. The Royer's are far more resilient, which make them a wonderful candidate for a lot of louder sources, and for that matter, even live performance. Really terrific microphones for this purpose.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
@nicolasrivera Well, typically the "off angle" has a bit more to do with the propensity for air pressure to over stress a ribbon, rather than SPL, but it is a reasonable point. Coles 4038's were rather prone to overstressing, for example, as they were a far more fragile microphone to begin with. The Royer's are far more resilient, which make them a wonderful candidate for a lot of louder sources, and for that matter, even live performance. Really terrific microphones for this purpose.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
Ribbon mics are great for subtle, quiet guitar styles (soft blues, Jazz, etc)...but turn that amp "up to 11" with distortion/overdrive, etc, and a ribbon may not be the best fit.
riffism 1 month ago
@riffism That an interesting comment, and true of "some" ribbons... the Royer 121 (this being the Royer 101 is also a great choice), have long been one of the de-facto standards for hot, distorted electric guitar recordings. Both of these Royers have great resiliance and high SPL handling capabilities, making them an excellent choice. Honestly, the distorted tones are easier to produce in a lot of ways, the real "art" of a microphone comes out when there is more subtlety and dynamics.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
WHOA thought that was a Fender AMP its the Ivy League
makerKID5 1 month ago
@makerKID5 The hand-made Victoria Ivy League absolutely smokes anything we've heard coming off the Fender line in decades. If you haven't had the opportunity to play a Victoria, they are basically like masterful vintage Fender recreations. Imagine enjoying a 1960's hand-built Fender back when they were brand new- welcome to the Victoria amps! One of our absolutely favorite lines, and a studio both in our guitar department and in the studio here.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
@soundpurestudios I just went to my local music store (I'm actually still here) I didn't see any (Victoria amps) I wanted to get a new "practice" amp it would also double as a studio amp,I did some research this amp has an excellent tone I was actually looking into a few Vox and Orange amps (combo) until I stumbled onto this video I want this amp! & on top of that this video reminded me of the Vintech x73i!
makerKID5 1 month ago
@makerKID5 Yep, completely understand... you tend not to find these serious boutique amps in the local music stores, although there are a handful that carry them.
We can absolutely help you with your next amp purchase. We have an incredible selection of amps here, and would love to help you with your upgrades now and in the future. Plus, you will have access to our full team of experts for advice!
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
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makerKID5 1 month ago
@soundpurestudios Just noticed the website in the description has a store! This is amazing but do you ship to Canada (Southern Ontario)? I'm totally in love the tone of the Ivy League (mostly from the videos on Victoria's channel) I understand that YouTube's compression slightly alters the sound but I'm confident this amp is what I'm looking for 14 Watts perfect! would you recommend taking a look at any other amp in their line though? I think this is one of the best things I've ever heard!
makerKID5 1 month ago
@makerKID5 Absolutely- contact us at +1-919-682-5552, or e-mail us at amps@soundpureDOTcom and we will make it happen.
It's a beautiful amp, we are all in love with it!
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
This was awesome! Thank you very much, but i was wondering if you could do something similar with like a $200 cap on mic's? I know you guys deal with higher end things and you put a lot of time into your videos, so maybe at least could you give me some advice?
DalelCampbell 1 month ago
@DalelCampbell In that price range, you can certainly attain something reasonable with a pair of SM57's... but they really won't sound anywhere nearly as lush. Perhaps we could get you into a relatively inexpensive ribbon mic for the front (like this gorgeous Royer R101), and just use the SM57 for the back. You will find that investing in the finer things proves to be a worthwhile move, because great gear can last a lifetime.
soundpurestudios 1 month ago
@soundpurestudios yes great advice I use the Shure SM57's all the time I usually capture I reasonably good signal, but you guys have an amazing sounding preamp not to mention top converters!
makerKID5 1 month ago
@makerKID5 Thanks- things could certainly be better than a 57 but they are surely a very utilitarian microphone for guitar cabinets, and certainly a good value for the money... it all boils down to budget and priorities- Recording vs. Live Sound, Mics vs. Preamps, Guitar sound vs. Vocal Sound etc. We are constantly helping our customers make difficult budgetary decisions and helping them determine the best next upgrade! Really hope we will have the opportunity to help you too!
soundpurestudios 1 month ago