Ayatullah Saane'i is amazing, someone willing to look inwards and criticize in order for Islam to move forward. No surprise the authorities have treated him so badly.
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thank goodness young iranians have a steady and wise voice to guide them after the passing of montazeri. i hope the people of iran wont have to suffer greatly to finally have the type of democratic government they deserve.
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Well, Ayatollah Sanei didn't highlight the reasons or proofs he think that the elections were rigged. Infact no one proves it. . . . they just claim it because they were the losers.
Actually, there was very clear evidence that the election was stolen. Search Google for "Iran the Devil Is in the Digits" for an example. Remember, just because you are ignorant of the evidence, that doesn't mean there is no evidence.
For example, the numbers showed Ahmadinejad completely crushing Mousavi in Tehran, where he is totally hated, and even in Mousavi's own province including the capital, Tabriz. This is basically impossible.
the article said that in the elections there were too many 7's and too few 5's! come on. this is the prove for the rigged elections! y didn't mousavi bring the concrete evidences in front of the media, y he doesn't launch evidences through his website. Just saying there are too many 7's and too less 5's,means nothin!
Tabriz, so its "your" view that beating mousavi there is impossible not the truth!! Truth is wat the judiciary and the nation of iran proved. 66% to ahmedinishad & 33% to mousavi!
You don't understand statistics, that's why you laugh at "too many 7's and too few 5's." Your ignorance of probability is why this doesn't look important to you.
In your mind, for example, it would be reasonable for someone playing poker to get five royal flushes in a row, because you don't understand how unlikely that is. You wouldn't suspect cheating, because you are incredibly ignorant of statistics.
Instead you blindly accept what the Iranian government asserts with no evidence. Smart.
Well, I am extremely sorry, i am not ignorant to statistics at all. I am an Engineering Student and had a Course namely "Applied Statistics". . . Sorry, Your expectations quite oftenly are wrong. !! Thats what i initially mentioned!! the ppl who claim the cheating in elections have nothin to prove.!! Well, i present my sympathies to them and wish them luck for the next elections!! Keep your spirit high.
You took a course where you learned nothing. It shows you're able to pass a statistics class without understanding the material you've been tested on?
I'm also an engineering student. I took applied statistics as well. I know 90% of students in class had no idea what they were doing. They just used formulas.
You are one of these mindless, robotic students.
The proved chances that the Iranian election wasn't fraudulent is 1 in 200. Too implausible for anyone but a credulous idiot to believe.
I showed statistical evidence showing the likelihood it was NOT rigged was 1 in 200. Your only response was to laugh at "too many 5's and not enough 7's."
I argued that it was extremely unlikely that Tehran and Tabriz would vote for Ahmadinejad around 70% when Tehran hates Ahmadinejad and Tabriz is the capital of Mousavi's province. Your only response was to say, "that's just your opinion."
This shows you're the one incapable of handling the evidence rationally, not me.
People here saying that any good mullah is a dead mullah are ignorant of Iranian history, and are not aware that throughout Iranian history some of the most prominent men where mullahs. Even today, some of the most outspoken people against the regime are mullahs, and many of their children are among the protestors.
A good Mullah is a dead Mullah....well said my friend they are all doomed and he is trying to flee the sinking ship...Freedom for Iran...Down with the Islamic and filthy regime....
A good neocon is a dead neocon too! At least this one Mullah believes in freedoms. Neocons only believe in nothing but death and destruction and no amount of blood is enough to satisfy their bloodlust.
By the way I agreed with your sentiment - but I now understand that it is driving them more insane - more madder - more paranoid - more potentially dangerous - and in russia it is feeding the mass movement- and it's a bad mass movement,. In America it's a kind of schizophrenia - and in Europe - they are getting medince, I hope the Good Lord - but they are out of ammo intellectually - there is some but it's stashed at some house, it's too dangerous or humiliating, and they won't come.
Mullahs are liberal? what a joke...I am not sure where are you really from, but you are confused....fuck Islam and all those filthy Mullahs....sorry poyani...you are either related to the Mullahs or there is something in it for you to take their side...
Remember that terms like "liberal" and "conservative" are always relative. For example, in Canada our "Conservative" party is more liberal than America's Democratic party.
I heard him say" In Islam collective reasoning..." is more than individual. At 5:58.
In Christianity - there is this concept as well.
All I will say is - as far as the herd goes - the herd does well to stick together - it stays warmer, it is more safe against predators - but if the herd is all going the wrong way- and it walks into a desert - having ignored the one or two who said "no this way, if you want water - it's this way. " - They can all collectively die of thirst.
@Nicksvoiceinthewild That concept is central to any religion. Personally as an Athiest the concept means little to me. But don't underestimate its usefulness. Religious people have for some time now been able to use the notion of collective reasoning to create collective action for better and for worse.
The work of non-violent revolutionaries such as Martin Luthar King, Gandhi, Bishop Desmond Tutu or Latin American liberation theologists all revolved around this concept in one-way or another.
I strongly advise you not to use language like "don't undestimate" however - commands lead to anxiety given religious concepts. It must be a suggestion, a word of advice, or general phrasing - for reasons of Islamic religion.
Muslims can safely do as you recommend, they cannot safely say what you command.
It's part of their way, it's a general fact or rule of life as well; "people don't like being given orders."
As The most of issue of our people about this regime and style of government is lack of tolarance and disregard to civil liberty. We the Iranian who are against this system need to show tolerance and respect to majority of our muslin society. Remember our strength is our unity.
there are good ones, too. I don't think that's fair to say! see right now if anyone wants to save their ass they would side with the regime! there people are courageous. May be in the long run they care about their image. But is that bad?
You bet your tuban they hate this regime. Really if you don't all give it up.. the people are going to rip these mother fucking religious freaks to bits. Of course they want to save their asses now... they know the end of the IRP is near. And they know how hated the regime is. And they know not one young person who can think likes this system, or the mullahs. And the basij are hated more than anything in the world. DOWN with dictators.
اسلام= سند ۱۴۰۰سالۀ خفت یکی از بزرگ ترین تمدن های تاریخ
اسلام= سند ۱۴۰۰سالۀ موالیگری و بی هویتی ملت ایران
اسلام= سند ۱۴۰۰ سال تاراج ثروتهای مادی و معنوی ایران
اسلام= سند ۱۴۰۰سال کشتار بهترین فرزندان ایران زمین,
اسلام= سند خریت نیاکان آیت الشیطان مرتضی مطهری!
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PIROOZNAHAAVANDI 7 months ago
Ayatullah Saane'i is amazing, someone willing to look inwards and criticize in order for Islam to move forward. No surprise the authorities have treated him so badly.
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IRANIANS EVERYWHERE UNITE AND BRING THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC DOWN.
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Ariamanesh1 11 months ago
In this guy i belive.
juotto 1 year ago
thank goodness young iranians have a steady and wise voice to guide them after the passing of montazeri. i hope the people of iran wont have to suffer greatly to finally have the type of democratic government they deserve.
JROQ5772 1 year ago
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Long Live Khamenai!!
Well, Ayatollah Sanei didn't highlight the reasons or proofs he think that the elections were rigged. Infact no one proves it. . . . they just claim it because they were the losers.
swhabidi 1 year ago
@swhabidi
Actually, there was very clear evidence that the election was stolen. Search Google for "Iran the Devil Is in the Digits" for an example. Remember, just because you are ignorant of the evidence, that doesn't mean there is no evidence.
For example, the numbers showed Ahmadinejad completely crushing Mousavi in Tehran, where he is totally hated, and even in Mousavi's own province including the capital, Tabriz. This is basically impossible.
But there is even more evidence. Search.
mavaddat 1 year ago
the article said that in the elections there were too many 7's and too few 5's! come on. this is the prove for the rigged elections! y didn't mousavi bring the concrete evidences in front of the media, y he doesn't launch evidences through his website. Just saying there are too many 7's and too less 5's,means nothin!
Tabriz, so its "your" view that beating mousavi there is impossible not the truth!! Truth is wat the judiciary and the nation of iran proved. 66% to ahmedinishad & 33% to mousavi!
swhabidi 1 year ago
You don't understand statistics, that's why you laugh at "too many 7's and too few 5's." Your ignorance of probability is why this doesn't look important to you.
In your mind, for example, it would be reasonable for someone playing poker to get five royal flushes in a row, because you don't understand how unlikely that is. You wouldn't suspect cheating, because you are incredibly ignorant of statistics.
Instead you blindly accept what the Iranian government asserts with no evidence. Smart.
mavaddat 1 year ago
Well, I am extremely sorry, i am not ignorant to statistics at all. I am an Engineering Student and had a Course namely "Applied Statistics". . . Sorry, Your expectations quite oftenly are wrong. !! Thats what i initially mentioned!! the ppl who claim the cheating in elections have nothin to prove.!! Well, i present my sympathies to them and wish them luck for the next elections!! Keep your spirit high.
Take Care, and see the truth
swhabidi 1 year ago
You took a course where you learned nothing. It shows you're able to pass a statistics class without understanding the material you've been tested on?
I'm also an engineering student. I took applied statistics as well. I know 90% of students in class had no idea what they were doing. They just used formulas.
You are one of these mindless, robotic students.
The proved chances that the Iranian election wasn't fraudulent is 1 in 200. Too implausible for anyone but a credulous idiot to believe.
mavaddat 1 year ago
Hahahahaha!!! ur statement made me laugh! Well, I feel soo sorry but the equation is true, and you can just cry ....
Khatami + Mousavi + Karrubi =/= Ahmedinishad.
Well, i m ready for conversation but you may have some concrete statements rather than immature statements. !!
The ppl who claim the elections rigged have nothing to prove...... poor people!!
swhabidi 1 year ago
I showed statistical evidence showing the likelihood it was NOT rigged was 1 in 200. Your only response was to laugh at "too many 5's and not enough 7's."
I argued that it was extremely unlikely that Tehran and Tabriz would vote for Ahmadinejad around 70% when Tehran hates Ahmadinejad and Tabriz is the capital of Mousavi's province. Your only response was to say, "that's just your opinion."
This shows you're the one incapable of handling the evidence rationally, not me.
mavaddat 1 year ago
the ppl reading our messages will decide what sort of " statistical EVIDENCE" did u provide..
And you "ARGUED"..... DIDNT prove anything!!
Lets the people reading our msgs decide who is beating about the bush!!.... Take Care.
swhabidi 1 year ago
Yes, I made arguments that you didn't respond to, except by scoffing. You have no argument. You just scoff.
mavaddat 1 year ago
People here saying that any good mullah is a dead mullah are ignorant of Iranian history, and are not aware that throughout Iranian history some of the most prominent men where mullahs. Even today, some of the most outspoken people against the regime are mullahs, and many of their children are among the protestors.
deterdetsamma2 2 years ago
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I hope his Allah, which I think is heinous, destroys all of them and tear them to pieces!
Andrameda666 2 years ago
this is the way Rafsenjani must larn and talk !!!!!!!!!!!
javadgol 2 years ago 3
Looks like this rat mullah is trying to get off the sinking ship that is the corrupt dictatorship of the Islamic Republic.
No use - too late you uneducated fat rat.
Iran's people no longer tolerate any of your criminal mullahs.
IRANWILLBEFREE 2 years ago
A good Mullah is a dead Mullah....well said my friend they are all doomed and he is trying to flee the sinking ship...Freedom for Iran...Down with the Islamic and filthy regime....
neocons1345 2 years ago
A good neocon is a dead neocon too! At least this one Mullah believes in freedoms. Neocons only believe in nothing but death and destruction and no amount of blood is enough to satisfy their bloodlust.
poyani 2 years ago 5
@poyani
By the way I agreed with your sentiment - but I now understand that it is driving them more insane - more madder - more paranoid - more potentially dangerous - and in russia it is feeding the mass movement- and it's a bad mass movement,. In America it's a kind of schizophrenia - and in Europe - they are getting medince, I hope the Good Lord - but they are out of ammo intellectually - there is some but it's stashed at some house, it's too dangerous or humiliating, and they won't come.
Nicksvoiceinthewild 10 months ago
He has always been like this. He is very liberal.
poyani 2 years ago 4
Mullahs are liberal? what a joke...I am not sure where are you really from, but you are confused....fuck Islam and all those filthy Mullahs....sorry poyani...you are either related to the Mullahs or there is something in it for you to take their side...
neocons1345 2 years ago
Remember that terms like "liberal" and "conservative" are always relative. For example, in Canada our "Conservative" party is more liberal than America's Democratic party.
mavaddat 2 years ago
@poyani
I heard him say" In Islam collective reasoning..." is more than individual. At 5:58.
In Christianity - there is this concept as well.
All I will say is - as far as the herd goes - the herd does well to stick together - it stays warmer, it is more safe against predators - but if the herd is all going the wrong way- and it walks into a desert - having ignored the one or two who said "no this way, if you want water - it's this way. " - They can all collectively die of thirst.
Bad.
Nicksvoiceinthewild 10 months ago
@Nicksvoiceinthewild That concept is central to any religion. Personally as an Athiest the concept means little to me. But don't underestimate its usefulness. Religious people have for some time now been able to use the notion of collective reasoning to create collective action for better and for worse.
The work of non-violent revolutionaries such as Martin Luthar King, Gandhi, Bishop Desmond Tutu or Latin American liberation theologists all revolved around this concept in one-way or another.
poyani 10 months ago
@poyani
Thank you for you answer.
I strongly advise you not to use language like "don't undestimate" however - commands lead to anxiety given religious concepts. It must be a suggestion, a word of advice, or general phrasing - for reasons of Islamic religion.
Muslims can safely do as you recommend, they cannot safely say what you command.
It's part of their way, it's a general fact or rule of life as well; "people don't like being given orders."
Nicksvoiceinthewild 10 months ago
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PIROOZNAHAAVANDI 7 months ago
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@poyani
Liberal like Khomeini.....hehehe
PIROOZNAHAAVANDI 7 months ago
As The most of issue of our people about this regime and style of government is lack of tolarance and disregard to civil liberty. We the Iranian who are against this system need to show tolerance and respect to majority of our muslin society. Remember our strength is our unity.
feesabeal 2 years ago
there are good ones, too. I don't think that's fair to say! see right now if anyone wants to save their ass they would side with the regime! there people are courageous. May be in the long run they care about their image. But is that bad?
amanzour 2 years ago
You bet your tuban they hate this regime. Really if you don't all give it up.. the people are going to rip these mother fucking religious freaks to bits. Of course they want to save their asses now... they know the end of the IRP is near. And they know how hated the regime is. And they know not one young person who can think likes this system, or the mullahs. And the basij are hated more than anything in the world. DOWN with dictators.
showdiva99 2 years ago 2