@ModConsoleAU I am glad you did. I saw your nice little river. It looks like it is not always niece when there is a lot of rain. Beware of falling rocks and "big foot."
There are just so many simpler, safer, and just plain better ways of doing the same thing - that it baffles me, why someone would even attempt something so ridiculous. The Amish guy down the road, with his "poor man's" wood lathe, could probably chuck one of these out in less than and an hour, and for sure, it would look better too.
@tahwnikcufos It baffles me that so many round columns with intricate designs get replaced by plain square ones because the alternative is cheap hollow columns made with glue. According to you if the Amish guy does it, it must be simple. Can you do better? People who work (or sculpt) with chainsaws have no objections to this use of the tool. But digital men always object. Kickbacks make chainsaws dangerous. This use of chainsaws is kickback free. Welcome to the lumberjack competition! Try again.
@generatorblue I didn't say anything about the Amish guy's method being simple - but solid and better looking, yes. Could I do it better? I have done better - and on a much larger scale than this. Try what again? Trusting YouTube related videos NOT to link to stupid shit like this? Yeah, I wish!
@tahwnikcufos, I created the chainsaw lathe and am proud of it. Thanks to feedback from skilled people I came up with the idea for a cheap lathe to turn columns. Two months ago (5 message below this one) I told elpatenteu to put a belt around the beam powered by a motor (washing machine motor by example) to make a cheap lathe. Today, I would add that a "V" shape groove the size of the belt (for a tight belt fit) should be sculpted manually instead of a "two-inch wide round area."
@emigrantgap I agree but it worked for me. Thanks to this goofy stunt, all my columns look exactly as they did when the house was built a long time ago. I even added an extra column. It is wise to work the tools that you know how to use. In other words, if you can handle big chainsaws, this is a breeze that takes too long. Thirty years ago chainsaws use to scare me. I can relate to the strong negative reactions. Thanks for the comment!
@elpatenteu In the video "entitled chainsaw lathe revisited", I explained how I got in trouble with a chain that was too sharp and the wood too soft. The chain wanted to cut through the wood each time it touched it. I found myself constantly cutting too deep. Since I only did one every four years, I only remembered the major mistakes from the last time. I therefore made sure that the wood was harder and the chain not sharpened. I wanted a strong column. One made sixteen years ago is still strong
if that piece is 72 inch or less it take me less than 10 min to make it round whit my 1 1/4 roughing gouge.i only use 3 of my chiesel...
roughing gouge,bowl gouge and another one(i dont know the name)low angle tip for the details.in fact when we use a motorise cuting system(router grinder or chainsaw) the piece have to turn slowly as it possible in the reverse side direction about 60 rpm MAX.. less is better. if it's not the thoot juste dont have the time to do ther job.and the tool just float.
@elpatenteu I took me 30 minutes just to put the design markings (with a pen) on the beam. Once you setup the beam the way I did, you can make a two-inch area round manually and then put a belt around it powered by a motor (washing machine motor by example). With basic control, you will stay below 60 RPM. This could be the way to make a cheap lathe to turn a large column. I used motors to turn break drums while they were mounted (facing out) on the car axle. It took a chainsaw and two bolts.
@elpatenteu FYI: @tahwnikcufos, I created the chainsaw lathe and am proud of it. Thanks to feedback from skilled people I came up with the idea for a cheap lathe to turn columns. Two months ago (5 messages belowI told elpatenteu to put a belt around the beam powered by a motor (washing machine motor by example) to make a cheap lathe. Today, I would add that a "V" shape groove the size of the belt (for a tight belt fit) should be sculpted manually instead of a "two-inch wide round area." ...
@elpatenteu I can tell you that it took more than 4 hours with a chainsaw. I do not know how long it would take with a chisel. Four hours of noise is not a joke but hitting my hand with a rubber hammer could be worse. Now you have me thinking of the right chisel with a curve (that is a section of a circle) of the same diameter as the finished beam. Since the design of the beam has different diameters in different locations, I would need a few different chisels. First I tried a chisel and gave up
@Offshoreorganbuilder Thank you! You can make it safer by securing the chainsaw to a lever that you can slide on track(s) and lower or lift as well. That same lever could also follow the contour of the old column that you are trying to duplicate. This should be a lot easier than building or fixing an organ. I am assuming that you have the space. take care!
sometimes its just good to read the comments ..just to see the lonely people sat out there looking for something to have a moan over..lol good vid to..bob
@woodjust4u The safest thing that you can do with a chain saw! Read all the negative comments from the time I posted the video together with my responses and you will understand.
Hint!: The chain will never jam. I do not ride motorcycles either or use a parachute for fun. I climb on ladders but do not walk on roofs. However, if you need a column, I will sculpt it with a chainsaw for you. We will keep the 4 hours of noise in your neighborhood. It is more boring than fun and dangerous. Thanks!
@woodjust4u People reading your comments will have the opportunity to view the porch of my house before I rebuilt it, in my video entitled "Rooney money..." They can also see the rebuilt porch with the chainsaw column in my videos entitled "Catamaran on a river..." & "chainsaw lathe revisited." Nice barn!
All the readers (including you) can click on the "show more" link of my "when mice move in" video and read "what is wrong with architecture?" It contains a negative view of modern Architecture
@woodjust4u It is as unsafe as driving your car to a garage for an inspection and the mechanic asks you to move the car forward until the power wheels are placed on top of two giant parallel rollers. The next thing you know, you are asked to put the car in gear. Here you are sitting in that car while the car is driving but you are stationary. You can be nervous, but you still enjoy the (non) ride. Is it safer to drive your car on the road or to let it rotate rollers at the same RPM?
@woodjust4u You need friction to roll or walk. Your car can drive on top of the rollers because your mechanic has a brake for the rollers. If you did not need friction, cars would never be stuck on ice. No chain jamming means no possibility of kickback.
The real danger comes from cutting too deep and making the beam too weak at one point. . Even in that situation a fence can protect your legs and feet because if the beam brakes the new middle endpoints will travel toward the chainsaw & legs.
@bisnonnocanapa Time is money, it took a few hours but 2 out of 5 columns that I made support the house.
The oldest column that I made is more than twelve years old. All the houses around the neighborhood have replaced their original columns with square one or hollow cylindrical ones. I kept the original design. The next time I paint them, I will do more sanding and make them look better. Imagine what I could do will practice. I make them when I need them at six years interval of each other.
@generatorblue i was thinking, now you have the spinning stand for the column, the most of the job is done, you could plug a big drill for turning and then work it with a rasp, it would make it easier and smoother, and shouldnt be too mutch complicate
@bisnonnocanapa You could be right. Yet, I do not have any experience turning even small pieces on a lathe.
The hard part is to place the markings for the different cuts (concave vs. convex). A drill spins too fast and would need to be secured properly to take the load. When you need a column every six years, there is no need to build a special tool for it. However, if you build one, I would like to see it. Thank you for the feedback.
@jjohn77700 The bad news is that it took many hours to complete in one day. When it way done, I no longer had the energy to use hand tools to make it look perfect. As you can see, I needed to replace the rotten column as soon as possible.
The good news is that I can make it look better before the next paint job.
this is really a cool idea, man ! being a carpenter myself, i can see that, with an electric chainsaw and experience, its not dangerous as other people posted, but getting it smooth is quite a hassle, i guess.... grear videao, thanks....
@dyterdyter Please watch "Chainsaw lathe revisited" and you will see me using a sander. I shape a pole about once every 4 years, which is not enough practice to gain some serious experience. I can tell you that it takes a few hours to complete the job. I have ideas about how to speed things up. Recycled sandpaper from floor sanders or floor sanders themselves could be used. I should really be making the setup semiautomatic and in the process make it easier to duplicate the contour of any pole.
@jonwieser I agree! This is way too dangerous for you. I was once in your shoes and I understand fear.
I am sure that you know the difference between a small electric chainsaw and a powerful gas powered one.
If you have not used different types of chainsaws, you will not understand that some are easier to handle than others. I ride bicycles but never tried a motorcycle because I concluded that motorcycles were too dangerous. Thank you for your opinion.
All you haters out there can shutup and go back to watching your Orpah and Dr. Phil show. This guy is not sitting on his ass he's doing something productive. I salute you Phillipe for sharing your industriousness with us. Keep up the good work.
@kevjay777 Thank you bro! I needed that. The couch potatoes almost ran me out of town. After I read your comment, I took a look at your channel. I discovered an adult taming the wild. I concluded that my use of the chain saw can be considered child-play. Take a look for yourself. You will be impressed. Thanks again bro! You are a professional!
@collophonium I own a lot of hand tools that I use at night without making any noise. A small electric chainsaw is as noisy as a circular saw. The result was so good that I decided not to use hand tools to make it look perfect. One person who sells attachments to transform chainsaws into lumber mill had doubts that the column was shaped by a chainsaw. I replied that I make one every 4 to 6 years. Imagine how good a job I could do if I had a chance to practice. I wear earmuffs for gas chainsaws.
@orangmakan I have dealt with the 'too dangerous' already. Cutting a stationary piece of wood is more dangerous than cutting a rotating one. Making the real thing is the only way for a tool (and operator) to be effective. I found the following definition for the word "effective."
Effective: producing an expected effect or result.
I conclude that you were not pleased with the column that I sculpted.
What matters is that I am pleased with it and it looks like the other 100 years old ones.
Thank you for pointing out the difference between "effective" and "efficient" - you are completely right, my fault. I also agree to the goal of the last paragraph.
What is left is the security issue. Even if i believe that you *feel* comfortable with it i insist to call it risky.
@orangmakan No kickbacks! However, if you cut the pole too deep, it will break. If you do not have a fence protecting your legs, the two endpoints created by the break will travel toward your legs. The screws will still hold the other two endpoints. It is just like spitting firewood wisely. I always place a big log on its side in front of my feet just in case my ax misses the log that I am trying to split. For efficiency: 2 or more pairs of "robot held" chainsaws rotating in opposite directions.
Man, you're a real piece of work. I'm not going to bother telling you anything about safety, since you are obviously so much smarter than the rest of us, but dude, you could get the same result more quickly using proper lathe tools and techniques. Hell, I can turn a bowl using a brick for a cutting tool, but why? Just because I can? I've seen a lot of Nimrods on YouTube, but I think you're in the top 5 for sure.
@bripslag Who are "the rest of us" that you are talking about? It sounds like the "silent majority." Even if you buy me a 2-ton chainsaw to make 2 columns, I have no place to put it.
Why exactly are you upset?
Is it because an inventor you respect created the chainsaw and maimed a lot of bodies?
Is it because I found a new way to use it like Hendrix played guitar with his teeth? When a company tries to steal my idea, I can count on you to tell them that a Youtube Nimrod did it first. Thks
@generatorblue I apologize for the tone in my previous comment. I will admit I was put off my some of the comments you've posted here, but I now believe it was my own lack of understanding your circumstances. I did not realize until watching the video again that your beam is not mounted on a lathe. I also realized that you are probably doing the best you can with the tools and materials available to you. My apologies.
@bripslag I thank you for taking the time to make the original comment. Without feedback my mind is very static. I have used electric chainsaws for years and cannot recall a really scary moment. Then I paid someone to cut a large tree in the back of our house. I purchased a powerful husqvarna 50 that I used to cut up the tree into firewood. I remember 2 kickbacks where the guard brakes stopped the chain before I could react. I never experienced kickbacks while sculpting a pole. Gas too powerful
@Caleb6543 I had no problem until I made my third one. The wood was too soft and the chain was too sharp. I found myself struggling to control the cut. Eventually I made the skinny part too skinny too early. The column broke while spinning and one piece traveled toward me. But the screws held up and I also got out of the way quickly. Hard wood plus two chainsaws one sharp one dull will allow the operator to do it efficiently. I am positive that gas powered saw are too powerful for this job.
@2clonesI really appreciate your comment. I took a look at your channel and realized that I finally caught the attention of a chainsaw artist. Just let the people know that I invented the chainsaw lathe. I have never had a chance to practice the skill, because I only make one column at a time when I need it. I am OK with the idea that I will not make lots of money in my lifetime, but I want to be known for having made a few original things. The chainsaw lathe is one of them. Thank you very much!
@Opaltom This is the response that I got from a chainsaw manufacturer:
"STIHL has no interest in the device that you are inquiring about. I cannot even begin to describe how unsafe this device is. Chain saws are designed to be operated with 2 hands on a stable platform."
It is easy for manufacturers to cover their back pockets on paper. It is now your turn to tell the truth: Have you ever seen a man high up on a tree that did not use a chainsaw with one hand to cut small branches all around?
@Opaltom Before we both blame the lumberjacks, I want you to know that I have worked with equipments that were designed to operate with both hands for safety reasons. Two switches in series (one for each hand) did the trick. Does STIHL or any other chainsaw manufacturer make chainsaws that cannot be operated with one hand? Based on their statement all the STIHL chainsaws should be inoperable with one hand. Once they make them that way, they will be out of business. All talk but no walk!
great idea. surprised everyones hating on you. manual labor is always somewhat dangerous. this is about 1/10th as dangerous as when I used to fell trees for work.
I remember the first time I saw people using chainsaws. It looked very scary. Chainsaws scare a lot of people and the movie industry has exploited this fact. However, people like you who are familiar with chainsaws know that the real danger comes from kickbacks due to both side of the log closing in on the chain as the cut progresses. In this setup the bar does not go deep into the wood and I do not use the tip of the saw. Once I get some space, I will build attachments.
Lots of patents have been issued to people like you for things that were made by people like me. I see that you play music. I do not play musical instruments but am capable of making musical instruments. Slaves used all types of instruments to do skilled work. However, once they were freed, they were not employed as workers like blacksmiths. It is not my color that bothers you. It is my half brain that works full-time. Does your brain work part-time?
Belt + pulley = more danger if they are not covered. If you can come up with an attachment that holds the chainsaw at the lower rear part of the handle, and if this attachment can slide over a horizontal pipe that is parallel to the beam, then you will be almost done. That way you can raise and lower the bar and glide the chainsaw sideways as well. If you attach a pole to the top front part of the handle bar to do the lifting, that pole can trace the contour of the original column.
Wouldnt it be safer to use a motor bolted down to a hinge with a belt in a groove in the post (or make a screw down pulley) to spin the thing then use your chain or chisels (just add an angle iron bar in front to act as a tool rest). Guess it's better than the old foot system with rope of days gone by. Your idea is rough but it might be a good starting idea for me to come up with a post lathe to do some posts on my 1952 house (someone replaced the posts with ugly commercial wrought iron posts)
This is my sixth pole. This time, I used a rotary sander. The sander makes the beam spin also. Please click on "more info" for more details. But the chainsaw keeps the column round automatically. I can also carve intricate parts like the double rings. To get a smooth surface, you can use sanders, scrapers etc. but you should not need a chisel. Precise measurement markings on the beam is needed. The reward is that you can keep the original columns in your house.
Same to you "jodohead. If intelligence manifested itself by transforming personal fears into aggression, then you would be the smartest person on earth.
I am sure that you have a lot of respect for people who go skydiving or ride motorcycles or fly airplanes which are all more dangerous than spinning a beam with a small electric chainsaw. If I lose a finger or a hand, I will still have a brain.
You must be 100 percent brain. Go watch a scary movie and reproduce like a rabbit.
JCR, there is a simple MECHANICAL principle at work here. As long as the beam is rotating, the chain cannot JAM. This is safer than cutting stationary wood. If you want to get hurt, cut it into two pieces while it is rotating. You could get your leg broken. I paid the pros to cut a large tree. I kept and cut tons of wood and had to deal with a lot of kickbacks. I made six rotating poles and never had a kickback. This uses a small electric chainsaw. This his safer than driving at 45 mph.Calm!
You're an idiot. Chainsaws aren't designed to be bounced on a moving workpiece like that, and sooner or later you're going to shake the bolts holding the bar loose, break a link, or just ruin the motor.
Not only that, it's clear that you don't have it under control enough to keep it from hitting a corner in the area you're not trying to round off, which can easily cause you to drop it or bounce it into your face. It's a chainsaw, not a hammer.
I picked up that chainsaw from the trash 12 years ago.I replaced the carbon brushes. I made six columns with it. It appears that you read "consumer report." I read the "junkyard report." If you cannot fix it, it will fix you.
These bolt that you mentioned are the most used part of the chainsaw. You need to loosen and tighten them routinely to restore tension in the chain.I have a real powerful gas chainsaw that I can control. I added measurement lines after that first cut. Read the info!
great idea for a rough cut b4 it's put on the lathe //or just put a band over the end and use a variable speed controler for the smooth finish..good work :)
It is indeed a very rough cut but the chainsaw is capable of cutting the narrow adjacent rings. (see written documentation for details). For the narrow rings, I used the saw as if it were a small hammer making on and off contact. Now that I have done this a few times over the last 15 years, I came to the conclusion that I should have drilled hole for the supporting bolts through a strong piece of hard wood and not worry about metal to metal friction. Thick wood will require a longer screw.Thanks
You control the cut by controlling the pressure. A proper sharpened Chainsaw is not a problem. With a chainsaw that is too powerful you could have to lift the bar frequently to reduce the speed. But, a sharp chain in a small electric chainsaw will give you a smooth operation with little down pressure applied on the bar to make contact with the spinning beam.
However, you do not want to use wood that is too soft. Sometimes you'll want the chain sharper and sometimes you want it dull. Use 2 saws
In this operation, I do not make tip or bar nose contact. As long as the wood is moving, the chain is moving.There is no pinching.
ABOUT KICKBACK
Kickback may occur when the moving chain at the nose or tip of the guide bar touches an object, or when the wood closes in and pinches the saw chain in the cut. Tip or bar nose contact can kick the guide bar up and back toward the operator. Pinching the cutting chain along the top of the guide bar may push the guide bar rapidly toward the operator.
There is less chance of a chainsaw kickback when the wood is spinning with the chain. All experienced chainsaw users are always ready to handle kickbacks. Please read the info section. The real danger is in cutting the skinniest part of the column too early in the operation. If you cut deep and cause the beam to break, then you will have a problem with falling timber. I would like to suggest that you also watch the video clip entitled "setup for Chainsaw Lathe."
I hope that you have read the "info" section of the video clip. If not, you should. I wrote about the details that I was not able to include in the video clip. I will answer additional questions just like a good neighbor.
I used this setup for the first time 15 years ago. Since I could not find anyone showing a similar video clip, I decided to film the setup. I guess that could be added to the lumberjack olympics.
I am pleased with it as well. The harder part is to put a new roof on the porch and complete the job. Well, when the job is done, I now know that it will look good because the new column looks almost like the other ones. Thanks again.
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ModConsoleAU 3 days ago
@ModConsoleAU I am glad you did. I saw your nice little river. It looks like it is not always niece when there is a lot of rain. Beware of falling rocks and "big foot."
generatorblue 3 days ago
There are just so many simpler, safer, and just plain better ways of doing the same thing - that it baffles me, why someone would even attempt something so ridiculous. The Amish guy down the road, with his "poor man's" wood lathe, could probably chuck one of these out in less than and an hour, and for sure, it would look better too.
tahwnikcufos 4 days ago
@tahwnikcufos It baffles me that so many round columns with intricate designs get replaced by plain square ones because the alternative is cheap hollow columns made with glue. According to you if the Amish guy does it, it must be simple. Can you do better? People who work (or sculpt) with chainsaws have no objections to this use of the tool. But digital men always object. Kickbacks make chainsaws dangerous. This use of chainsaws is kickback free. Welcome to the lumberjack competition! Try again.
generatorblue 3 days ago
@generatorblue I didn't say anything about the Amish guy's method being simple - but solid and better looking, yes. Could I do it better? I have done better - and on a much larger scale than this. Try what again? Trusting YouTube related videos NOT to link to stupid shit like this? Yeah, I wish!
tahwnikcufos 2 days ago
@tahwnikcufos, I created the chainsaw lathe and am proud of it. Thanks to feedback from skilled people I came up with the idea for a cheap lathe to turn columns. Two months ago (5 message below this one) I told elpatenteu to put a belt around the beam powered by a motor (washing machine motor by example) to make a cheap lathe. Today, I would add that a "V" shape groove the size of the belt (for a tight belt fit) should be sculpted manually instead of a "two-inch wide round area."
Got tools?
generatorblue 1 day ago
@generatorblue doh!
tahwnikcufos 1 day ago
this is goofy
emigrantgap 1 week ago
@emigrantgap I agree but it worked for me. Thanks to this goofy stunt, all my columns look exactly as they did when the house was built a long time ago. I even added an extra column. It is wise to work the tools that you know how to use. In other words, if you can handle big chainsaws, this is a breeze that takes too long. Thirty years ago chainsaws use to scare me. I can relate to the strong negative reactions. Thanks for the comment!
generatorblue 1 week ago
your chainsaw really dont seem cutting too,,,,,
elpatenteu 2 months ago
@elpatenteu In the video "entitled chainsaw lathe revisited", I explained how I got in trouble with a chain that was too sharp and the wood too soft. The chain wanted to cut through the wood each time it touched it. I found myself constantly cutting too deep. Since I only did one every four years, I only remembered the major mistakes from the last time. I therefore made sure that the wood was harder and the chain not sharpened. I wanted a strong column. One made sixteen years ago is still strong
generatorblue 2 months ago
if that piece is 72 inch or less it take me less than 10 min to make it round whit my 1 1/4 roughing gouge.i only use 3 of my chiesel...
roughing gouge,bowl gouge and another one(i dont know the name)low angle tip for the details.in fact when we use a motorise cuting system(router grinder or chainsaw) the piece have to turn slowly as it possible in the reverse side direction about 60 rpm MAX.. less is better. if it's not the thoot juste dont have the time to do ther job.and the tool just float.
elpatenteu 2 months ago
@elpatenteu I took me 30 minutes just to put the design markings (with a pen) on the beam. Once you setup the beam the way I did, you can make a two-inch area round manually and then put a belt around it powered by a motor (washing machine motor by example). With basic control, you will stay below 60 RPM. This could be the way to make a cheap lathe to turn a large column. I used motors to turn break drums while they were mounted (facing out) on the car axle. It took a chainsaw and two bolts.
generatorblue 2 months ago
@elpatenteu FYI: @tahwnikcufos, I created the chainsaw lathe and am proud of it. Thanks to feedback from skilled people I came up with the idea for a cheap lathe to turn columns. Two months ago (5 messages belowI told elpatenteu to put a belt around the beam powered by a motor (washing machine motor by example) to make a cheap lathe. Today, I would add that a "V" shape groove the size of the belt (for a tight belt fit) should be sculpted manually instead of a "two-inch wide round area." ...
generatorblue 1 day ago
why using chainsaw?? chisel is alomst 10 time faster than waht i see here.
elpatenteu 2 months ago
@elpatenteu I can tell you that it took more than 4 hours with a chainsaw. I do not know how long it would take with a chisel. Four hours of noise is not a joke but hitting my hand with a rubber hammer could be worse. Now you have me thinking of the right chisel with a curve (that is a section of a circle) of the same diameter as the finished beam. Since the design of the beam has different diameters in different locations, I would need a few different chisels. First I tried a chisel and gave up
generatorblue 2 months ago
Safe or not, it's an amazing idea!
Offshoreorganbuilder 3 months ago
@Offshoreorganbuilder Thank you! You can make it safer by securing the chainsaw to a lever that you can slide on track(s) and lower or lift as well. That same lever could also follow the contour of the old column that you are trying to duplicate. This should be a lot easier than building or fixing an organ. I am assuming that you have the space. take care!
generatorblue 3 months ago
sometimes its just good to read the comments ..just to see the lonely people sat out there looking for something to have a moan over..lol good vid to..bob
bloodynuts2 3 months ago
unsafe!
woodjust4u 5 months ago
@woodjust4u The safest thing that you can do with a chain saw! Read all the negative comments from the time I posted the video together with my responses and you will understand.
Hint!: The chain will never jam. I do not ride motorcycles either or use a parachute for fun. I climb on ladders but do not walk on roofs. However, if you need a column, I will sculpt it with a chainsaw for you. We will keep the 4 hours of noise in your neighborhood. It is more boring than fun and dangerous. Thanks!
generatorblue 5 months ago
@generatorblue I am a Architectural and Artistic woodturner I don't need any "barnjobs" thanks anyway
woodjust4u 5 months ago
@woodjust4u People reading your comments will have the opportunity to view the porch of my house before I rebuilt it, in my video entitled "Rooney money..." They can also see the rebuilt porch with the chainsaw column in my videos entitled "Catamaran on a river..." & "chainsaw lathe revisited." Nice barn!
All the readers (including you) can click on the "show more" link of my "when mice move in" video and read "what is wrong with architecture?" It contains a negative view of modern Architecture
generatorblue 5 months ago
@generatorblue how about if you don't think it's safe, don't do it yourself.... not tell everyone else how unsafe it is
maintguy69 3 months ago
@woodjust4u It is as unsafe as driving your car to a garage for an inspection and the mechanic asks you to move the car forward until the power wheels are placed on top of two giant parallel rollers. The next thing you know, you are asked to put the car in gear. Here you are sitting in that car while the car is driving but you are stationary. You can be nervous, but you still enjoy the (non) ride. Is it safer to drive your car on the road or to let it rotate rollers at the same RPM?
generatorblue 5 months ago
@woodjust4u You need friction to roll or walk. Your car can drive on top of the rollers because your mechanic has a brake for the rollers. If you did not need friction, cars would never be stuck on ice. No chain jamming means no possibility of kickback.
The real danger comes from cutting too deep and making the beam too weak at one point. . Even in that situation a fence can protect your legs and feet because if the beam brakes the new middle endpoints will travel toward the chainsaw & legs.
generatorblue 5 months ago
nice job,not perfect but very functional! and you saved a lot money too! i like it
bisnonnocanapa 6 months ago
@bisnonnocanapa Time is money, it took a few hours but 2 out of 5 columns that I made support the house.
The oldest column that I made is more than twelve years old. All the houses around the neighborhood have replaced their original columns with square one or hollow cylindrical ones. I kept the original design. The next time I paint them, I will do more sanding and make them look better. Imagine what I could do will practice. I make them when I need them at six years interval of each other.
generatorblue 6 months ago
@generatorblue i was thinking, now you have the spinning stand for the column, the most of the job is done, you could plug a big drill for turning and then work it with a rasp, it would make it easier and smoother, and shouldnt be too mutch complicate
bisnonnocanapa 6 months ago
@bisnonnocanapa You could be right. Yet, I do not have any experience turning even small pieces on a lathe.
The hard part is to place the markings for the different cuts (concave vs. convex). A drill spins too fast and would need to be secured properly to take the load. When you need a column every six years, there is no need to build a special tool for it. However, if you build one, I would like to see it. Thank you for the feedback.
generatorblue 6 months ago
I have to admit it isn't a bad reproduction considering the tools being used.
jjohn77700 11 months ago
@jjohn77700 The bad news is that it took many hours to complete in one day. When it way done, I no longer had the energy to use hand tools to make it look perfect. As you can see, I needed to replace the rotten column as soon as possible.
The good news is that I can make it look better before the next paint job.
generatorblue 11 months ago
this is really a cool idea, man ! being a carpenter myself, i can see that, with an electric chainsaw and experience, its not dangerous as other people posted, but getting it smooth is quite a hassle, i guess.... grear videao, thanks....
dyterdyter 11 months ago
@dyterdyter Please watch "Chainsaw lathe revisited" and you will see me using a sander. I shape a pole about once every 4 years, which is not enough practice to gain some serious experience. I can tell you that it takes a few hours to complete the job. I have ideas about how to speed things up. Recycled sandpaper from floor sanders or floor sanders themselves could be used. I should really be making the setup semiautomatic and in the process make it easier to duplicate the contour of any pole.
generatorblue 11 months ago
Way too dangerous, buddy
jonwieser 1 year ago
@jonwieser I agree! This is way too dangerous for you. I was once in your shoes and I understand fear.
I am sure that you know the difference between a small electric chainsaw and a powerful gas powered one.
If you have not used different types of chainsaws, you will not understand that some are easier to handle than others. I ride bicycles but never tried a motorcycle because I concluded that motorcycles were too dangerous. Thank you for your opinion.
generatorblue 1 year ago
@generatorblue HAHA!! NICE
MrMichael8624 11 months ago
why to dangerous buddy
jonwieser 1 year ago
it looks like some Red Green would try LOL
jonwieser 1 year ago
BRAVO... A GREAT CONCEPT.
josephdupont 1 year ago
All you haters out there can shutup and go back to watching your Orpah and Dr. Phil show. This guy is not sitting on his ass he's doing something productive. I salute you Phillipe for sharing your industriousness with us. Keep up the good work.
kevjay777 1 year ago
@kevjay777 Thank you bro! I needed that. The couch potatoes almost ran me out of town. After I read your comment, I took a look at your channel. I discovered an adult taming the wild. I concluded that my use of the chain saw can be considered child-play. Take a look for yourself. You will be impressed. Thanks again bro! You are a professional!
generatorblue 1 year ago
awful sound, awful feeling, awful resut,,,, why don´t people simply use their skills and sharp hand tools ???
collophonium 1 year ago
@collophonium I own a lot of hand tools that I use at night without making any noise. A small electric chainsaw is as noisy as a circular saw. The result was so good that I decided not to use hand tools to make it look perfect. One person who sells attachments to transform chainsaws into lumber mill had doubts that the column was shaped by a chainsaw. I replied that I make one every 4 to 6 years. Imagine how good a job I could do if I had a chance to practice. I wear earmuffs for gas chainsaws.
generatorblue 1 year ago
Too dangerous and too ineffective.
orangmakan 1 year ago
@orangmakan I have dealt with the 'too dangerous' already. Cutting a stationary piece of wood is more dangerous than cutting a rotating one. Making the real thing is the only way for a tool (and operator) to be effective. I found the following definition for the word "effective."
Effective: producing an expected effect or result.
I conclude that you were not pleased with the column that I sculpted.
What matters is that I am pleased with it and it looks like the other 100 years old ones.
generatorblue 1 year ago
@generatorblue
Thank you for pointing out the difference between "effective" and "efficient" - you are completely right, my fault. I also agree to the goal of the last paragraph.
What is left is the security issue. Even if i believe that you *feel* comfortable with it i insist to call it risky.
orangmakan 1 year ago
@orangmakan No kickbacks! However, if you cut the pole too deep, it will break. If you do not have a fence protecting your legs, the two endpoints created by the break will travel toward your legs. The screws will still hold the other two endpoints. It is just like spitting firewood wisely. I always place a big log on its side in front of my feet just in case my ax misses the log that I am trying to split. For efficiency: 2 or more pairs of "robot held" chainsaws rotating in opposite directions.
generatorblue 1 year ago
Man, you're a real piece of work. I'm not going to bother telling you anything about safety, since you are obviously so much smarter than the rest of us, but dude, you could get the same result more quickly using proper lathe tools and techniques. Hell, I can turn a bowl using a brick for a cutting tool, but why? Just because I can? I've seen a lot of Nimrods on YouTube, but I think you're in the top 5 for sure.
bripslag 1 year ago
@bripslag Who are "the rest of us" that you are talking about? It sounds like the "silent majority." Even if you buy me a 2-ton chainsaw to make 2 columns, I have no place to put it.
Why exactly are you upset?
Is it because an inventor you respect created the chainsaw and maimed a lot of bodies?
Is it because I found a new way to use it like Hendrix played guitar with his teeth? When a company tries to steal my idea, I can count on you to tell them that a Youtube Nimrod did it first. Thks
generatorblue 1 year ago
@generatorblue I apologize for the tone in my previous comment. I will admit I was put off my some of the comments you've posted here, but I now believe it was my own lack of understanding your circumstances. I did not realize until watching the video again that your beam is not mounted on a lathe. I also realized that you are probably doing the best you can with the tools and materials available to you. My apologies.
bripslag 1 year ago
@bripslag I thank you for taking the time to make the original comment. Without feedback my mind is very static. I have used electric chainsaws for years and cannot recall a really scary moment. Then I paid someone to cut a large tree in the back of our house. I purchased a powerful husqvarna 50 that I used to cut up the tree into firewood. I remember 2 kickbacks where the guard brakes stopped the chain before I could react. I never experienced kickbacks while sculpting a pole. Gas too powerful
generatorblue 1 year ago
That is really neat. It takes a lot of guts to even experiment with such an idea!
Caleb6543 1 year ago
@Caleb6543 I had no problem until I made my third one. The wood was too soft and the chain was too sharp. I found myself struggling to control the cut. Eventually I made the skinny part too skinny too early. The column broke while spinning and one piece traveled toward me. But the screws held up and I also got out of the way quickly. Hard wood plus two chainsaws one sharp one dull will allow the operator to do it efficiently. I am positive that gas powered saw are too powerful for this job.
generatorblue 1 year ago
I love it! Very innovative :)
2clones 1 year ago
@2clonesI really appreciate your comment. I took a look at your channel and realized that I finally caught the attention of a chainsaw artist. Just let the people know that I invented the chainsaw lathe. I have never had a chance to practice the skill, because I only make one column at a time when I need it. I am OK with the idea that I will not make lots of money in my lifetime, but I want to be known for having made a few original things. The chainsaw lathe is one of them. Thank you very much!
generatorblue 1 year ago
@generatorblue I watched this being done by one arm willie back in San Antonio, TX back in 1979 before he lost his arm !
Opaltom 1 year ago
@Opaltom This is the response that I got from a chainsaw manufacturer:
"STIHL has no interest in the device that you are inquiring about. I cannot even begin to describe how unsafe this device is. Chain saws are designed to be operated with 2 hands on a stable platform."
It is easy for manufacturers to cover their back pockets on paper. It is now your turn to tell the truth: Have you ever seen a man high up on a tree that did not use a chainsaw with one hand to cut small branches all around?
generatorblue 1 year ago
@Opaltom Before we both blame the lumberjacks, I want you to know that I have worked with equipments that were designed to operate with both hands for safety reasons. Two switches in series (one for each hand) did the trick. Does STIHL or any other chainsaw manufacturer make chainsaws that cannot be operated with one hand? Based on their statement all the STIHL chainsaws should be inoperable with one hand. Once they make them that way, they will be out of business. All talk but no walk!
generatorblue 1 year ago
great idea. surprised everyones hating on you. manual labor is always somewhat dangerous. this is about 1/10th as dangerous as when I used to fell trees for work.
Sozocharis 1 year ago
@Sozocharis Thank you!
I remember the first time I saw people using chainsaws. It looked very scary. Chainsaws scare a lot of people and the movie industry has exploited this fact. However, people like you who are familiar with chainsaws know that the real danger comes from kickbacks due to both side of the log closing in on the chain as the cut progresses. In this setup the bar does not go deep into the wood and I do not use the tip of the saw. Once I get some space, I will build attachments.
generatorblue 1 year ago
Black guy using a chain saw...not to be racist but you ever heard the other term for Jury rigging somthing? this looks really safe.
jeff61177 1 year ago
@jeff61177
Lots of patents have been issued to people like you for things that were made by people like me. I see that you play music. I do not play musical instruments but am capable of making musical instruments. Slaves used all types of instruments to do skilled work. However, once they were freed, they were not employed as workers like blacksmiths. It is not my color that bothers you. It is my half brain that works full-time. Does your brain work part-time?
generatorblue 1 year ago
thats rediculous
jeff61177 1 year ago
@jeff61177 I agree. It is ridiculous as using a chainsaw.
generatorblue 1 year ago
Belt + pulley = more danger if they are not covered. If you can come up with an attachment that holds the chainsaw at the lower rear part of the handle, and if this attachment can slide over a horizontal pipe that is parallel to the beam, then you will be almost done. That way you can raise and lower the bar and glide the chainsaw sideways as well. If you attach a pole to the top front part of the handle bar to do the lifting, that pole can trace the contour of the original column.
Talktome.
generatorblue 1 year ago
Wouldnt it be safer to use a motor bolted down to a hinge with a belt in a groove in the post (or make a screw down pulley) to spin the thing then use your chain or chisels (just add an angle iron bar in front to act as a tool rest). Guess it's better than the old foot system with rope of days gone by. Your idea is rough but it might be a good starting idea for me to come up with a post lathe to do some posts on my 1952 house (someone replaced the posts with ugly commercial wrought iron posts)
rhblakeman 1 year ago
this is random ly awsome but i think you should only use the saw for roughing and then chiseld for you final cuts
mersyturning 1 year ago
@mersyturning
This is my sixth pole. This time, I used a rotary sander. The sander makes the beam spin also. Please click on "more info" for more details. But the chainsaw keeps the column round automatically. I can also carve intricate parts like the double rings. To get a smooth surface, you can use sanders, scrapers etc. but you should not need a chisel. Precise measurement markings on the beam is needed. The reward is that you can keep the original columns in your house.
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generatorblue 1 year ago
The gene pool is obviously pretty shallow in your end. You haven't reproduced, have you?
jodohead 1 year ago
@jodohead
Same to you "jodohead. If intelligence manifested itself by transforming personal fears into aggression, then you would be the smartest person on earth.
I am sure that you have a lot of respect for people who go skydiving or ride motorcycles or fly airplanes which are all more dangerous than spinning a beam with a small electric chainsaw. If I lose a finger or a hand, I will still have a brain.
You must be 100 percent brain. Go watch a scary movie and reproduce like a rabbit.
generatorblue 1 year ago
What a bloody idiotic thing to do.
-jcr
NSResponder 2 years ago 2
JCR, there is a simple MECHANICAL principle at work here. As long as the beam is rotating, the chain cannot JAM. This is safer than cutting stationary wood. If you want to get hurt, cut it into two pieces while it is rotating. You could get your leg broken. I paid the pros to cut a large tree. I kept and cut tons of wood and had to deal with a lot of kickbacks. I made six rotating poles and never had a kickback. This uses a small electric chainsaw. This his safer than driving at 45 mph.Calm!
generatorblue 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Chainsaws aren't designed to be bounced on a moving workpiece like that, and sooner or later you're going to shake the bolts holding the bar loose, break a link, or just ruin the motor.
Not only that, it's clear that you don't have it under control enough to keep it from hitting a corner in the area you're not trying to round off, which can easily cause you to drop it or bounce it into your face. It's a chainsaw, not a hammer.
-jcr
NSResponder 2 years ago
FUNNY!
I picked up that chainsaw from the trash 12 years ago.I replaced the carbon brushes. I made six columns with it. It appears that you read "consumer report." I read the "junkyard report." If you cannot fix it, it will fix you.
These bolt that you mentioned are the most used part of the chainsaw. You need to loosen and tighten them routinely to restore tension in the chain.I have a real powerful gas chainsaw that I can control. I added measurement lines after that first cut. Read the info!
generatorblue 2 years ago
great idea for a rough cut b4 it's put on the lathe //or just put a band over the end and use a variable speed controler for the smooth finish..good work :)
hendotintco 2 years ago
It is indeed a very rough cut but the chainsaw is capable of cutting the narrow adjacent rings. (see written documentation for details). For the narrow rings, I used the saw as if it were a small hammer making on and off contact. Now that I have done this a few times over the last 15 years, I came to the conclusion that I should have drilled hole for the supporting bolts through a strong piece of hard wood and not worry about metal to metal friction. Thick wood will require a longer screw.Thanks
generatorblue 2 years ago
yEah whatever :D I don't think this would work with a proper sharpened Stihl-Chainsaw :D
choisl 2 years ago 2
You control the cut by controlling the pressure. A proper sharpened Chainsaw is not a problem. With a chainsaw that is too powerful you could have to lift the bar frequently to reduce the speed. But, a sharp chain in a small electric chainsaw will give you a smooth operation with little down pressure applied on the bar to make contact with the spinning beam.
However, you do not want to use wood that is too soft. Sometimes you'll want the chain sharper and sometimes you want it dull. Use 2 saws
generatorblue 2 years ago
interesting. I wonder if you could remove the bar and use the chain and motor to turn the wood. Then use regular tools to carve the wood.
carolinatinpan 2 years ago
In this operation, I do not make tip or bar nose contact. As long as the wood is moving, the chain is moving.There is no pinching.
ABOUT KICKBACK
Kickback may occur when the moving chain at the nose or tip of the guide bar touches an object, or when the wood closes in and pinches the saw chain in the cut. Tip or bar nose contact can kick the guide bar up and back toward the operator. Pinching the cutting chain along the top of the guide bar may push the guide bar rapidly toward the operator.
generatorblue 2 years ago
I guess you're Not concerned about Safety , huh ?
Well if the chainsaw kick back, you're dead meat !
Succes !
mack339 2 years ago
There is less chance of a chainsaw kickback when the wood is spinning with the chain. All experienced chainsaw users are always ready to handle kickbacks. Please read the info section. The real danger is in cutting the skinniest part of the column too early in the operation. If you cut deep and cause the beam to break, then you will have a problem with falling timber. I would like to suggest that you also watch the video clip entitled "setup for Chainsaw Lathe."
Cut and spin control is it.
generatorblue 2 years ago
I wish you lived next door.
4sineweaver2 2 years ago
I hope that you have read the "info" section of the video clip. If not, you should. I wrote about the details that I was not able to include in the video clip. I will answer additional questions just like a good neighbor.
I thank you for the comment.
generatorblue 2 years ago
lolololol
jeph4life 2 years ago
cool, nice job! :)
scarlejr 2 years ago
Thank you!
I used this setup for the first time 15 years ago. Since I could not find anyone showing a similar video clip, I decided to film the setup. I guess that could be added to the lumberjack olympics.
How is your double project going?
Thanks again.
generatorblue 2 years ago
the project is coming along! it's up and spinning. I need to sure it up a little and i'm waiting on the pulleys for my generators :)
scarlejr 2 years ago
I think you did a wonderful job !!!
insAneTunA 2 years ago
Thank you!
I am pleased with it as well. The harder part is to put a new roof on the porch and complete the job. Well, when the job is done, I now know that it will look good because the new column looks almost like the other ones. Thanks again.
generatorblue 2 years ago