So who's this Gary guy? What does he do? It's the first time i watch one of your videos and i came across this. I didn't intentionally subbed you by the way. When i subbed some other guy your channel must have been automatically suggested and i guess that's how i ended up here, seeing your video on my YouTube first page...Care to enlighten me what's going on here?
@GreenerNautilus He's someone one neither you nor I should give much thought to. I made a video more than 4 years ago & he misunderstood what I said. So he targeted me and claimed I have no character and a lots of other unfounded abuse and nonsense. His false light accusations and insults have caused a number of trolls and haters to attack my integrity and my channel repeatedly. . He's done something similar to many others as well. Most people he targets just give up & close their channels.
@2bsirius You can also flag/report the video in question for his baseless claims against you. What he does is not free speech, it is direct personal insult.
oh for pete,s sake...you must forget about imendham he,s just a two bit car mechanic,a lacklustre one apparently,with demented delusions of being a great philosopher
No, the lady is not sad at all. The lady is exhausted with people saying the same absurd things over and over and being rewarded for it. It would only happen on YouTube, and the odd thing is YouTube could be used to talk about ideas--NOT ridiculour silliness like we need to end all life or the Nazis did not use Zyklon gas in WWII but REAL ideas. Instead, it's a forum for someone to be abusive and throw temper tantrums and be applauded it. Everyone should be sad about that imo.
I don't understand why you take Gary so seriously. I think a sober reflection on the relative importance people like Gary actually hold within your real life would be beneficial.
In the grand scheme of things, he's just another douchebag on the internet behaving outrageously because he can. By assigning his behavious importance you are encouraging it to continue. You cannot control what people think and say. The only thing within your power to change is how you react.
I shouldn't, but I have never been been the target of such angry slanders before or been told that I have no character or been the target of the other horrible insults he's thrown around for years now. I'm tired of his false light portrayal of me. It's hard to live with the fact that so many gullible people believe his nastiness and abusive slurs ... It's lead to a lot of negative attention from trolls and those who imitate and repeat what he says.
@2bsirius You cannot control them. If you cannot control your reaction to them, then perhaps youtube or the internet in general is just not for you. To illustrate my point, go back and watch Gary's video called 2bEDafied. Skip to 24:41 and watch it until the end. (This will take you there: watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gLDUWEykp3w#t=1481s)
Is it, in your estimation, reasonable to devote so much time and energy to someone like that? Think about it for a bit.
I can no longer watch Gary's videos. I have a visceral reaction to trying. The truth is that I just want him to apologize for the fact that he so willfully misrepresented this. He has refused to even think about what he did and what he said. Instead he has painted me as all manor of evil to distract from his unfounded claims. He has never admitted that he was wrong about what he claimed was true. He does a lot of damage and then just goes on to damage again without consequence.
@2bsirius Remember the part where I told you that you cannot control other people? You don't have some intrinsic right to dictate what they feel either. The damage he does is only as great as you let it be.
Reality check: you're having a feud with a lunatic on the internet and it's lasted 4 years. You're not exactly being a reasonable emotionally balanced adult in this situation either. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you engage in this. Take some responsibility.
Sofiarune is exactly right. Nobody "owes" us anything - apologies etc. I've been falsely represented by people before, but meh. The court of public opinion simply doesn't matter much to me. Anyone who judges us on anything other than direct quotes, who relies on gossip, innuendo and assumptions to assess us isn't worth worrying about.
You have lots of company. A lot of trolls, haters and groupthinkers descend on my channel everything I say that if Gary wants to say something [especially something as important as what happened in the Holocaust] he needs to take the time to research it before he tells everyone he has 'infallible' knowledge.
Now go back to your friends and tell them that you told that ignorant bitch to go f*ck herself and get a big slap on the back. You must be proud.
@2bsirius Ooh, scary scary. The old "intellectual superiority" trick. It's okay though. You can go back to thinking you've vanquished me through your condescending rhetoric and your snark now. I won't play along any further. You fucking bitch.
@theinflatablehuman if you'd posted your nonsense, but instead of targeting me you'd targeted Gary, he'd remove your comments, block you & then make a vicious video about how stupid you are, & you think I'm condescending?
Fine, now go insult someone else. It seems to be what gives your lives meaning. It's blindness is great for comic relief too, at least for those who can see the irony. Surely Gary is attacking someone else by now & you can go insult his new target & stop wasting time here
I always disable ratings on videos about this. It's the only ways to keep the trolls and group thinkers from descending on command and trashing ratings, as they are trashing this comment section.
@lukey111100 he still makes ad hominen attacks and strawmening people, instead of actually debating. this lady that made this video doesnt deserve these kind of attacks.
(2) And one more thing, if you'd written a comment like this on any of Gary Imendham's videos, it would have been removed and you would have been blocked immediately.
@2bsirius It's not a problem for me, but I'm sure we both know who it will be a problem for. And truth is subjective. Already been blocked, a long time ago. I know what he is like, actually we both know what he is like, which is why videos such as this will be counter-productive. Are you trying to press his buttons? 'Obvious' I must? Ehm no, the only thing obvious is this doesn't help him any either (but then, you know that right!).
I'm trying to get an apology for all those who were gassed and the families of those who who were gassed during the war. Also, for the troops who saw the horrors when they liberated the camps and had to live with what they saw every day for the rest of their lives.
Does that mean I'm saying Gary is 'denier'? No, but I am saying if he wants to claim he knows something he doesn't know, he should at least express remorse about continuing the a cycle of damage and the pain.
(2) As for "this doesn't help him..." WHY do we need to make what helps Gary count more than what happened to all the children, the old the sick and the rest who could not make it through the selections -- and they were NOT just Jews, of course. They were Polish, Gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally 'inferior'...They were all human beings. Why isn't that important?
(3) (3) He will never admit to making mistakes. We all make mistakes. But instead he continues to inflict insults & abuse on anyone who wants to say that what happened matters. Everyone just seems to be ecstatic about the fact that Gary has someone to be abusive to and to scream at and challenge the humanity of and trolls and haters can then descend on that person and try to force him/her to close their account rather than have their fearless leader told he's done damage & that he was mistaken.
(4) How exactly does that 'help' Gary at all? It just makes him think that whatever he decides to do is OK because he never has to see that there might be consequences for abusing someone verbally or for claiming to have the absolute 'truth' about something you have not taken the time to research. I'd like an answer. How does that 'help' Gary, exactly? He does what he wants and everybody is deathly afraid to question him. That helps no-one at all.
@2bsirius Still playing Gary's game are you ah? Have you not figured out yet he does not have an original idea in his head, and that, as a troll, he only regurgitates ideas he knows other will find distasteful? That like a lonely misguided child he seeks attention thew bad behavior. As a child that can be understood and tolerated because children grow, that is what they do. However, Gary as a grown man, it is pathetic that he is stuck in this behavior and it should not be encouraged.
Nobody really cares about this accept you, and the type of moron who swallows unquestioningly whatever crap comes out of inmendham's mouth. Gary doesn't have a life, this online medium IS his life pretty much. Think about that.
Ages ago I made a couple of videos towards him which he responded to (predictably) with unreasonable rants. I was tempted to respond but I didn't. I moaned about him in comments for a while and then just ignored his existance completely.
Hello! I recognized your voice from an InMendham chat session that was set to scary music and a red filter effect. It is a shame that the you and InMendham don't do more videos together. In the vid I saw, he had a visceral quality, while your disembodied voice was strangely ethereal. The combination of the two of you make for great entertainment. I found mysef not so much as agreeing with either of you, but rather, I admired the contrast in manner and audiovisual textures. Rock on!
He sounds like a child, who can't make an arguement, and instead resorts to attacks. His fan base sounds equally childish. Just ignore him, he will go away.
When you said, you were not looking for friends on the web. I just want you to know, you have a friend in this old man...Peace
you have a lovely voice 2bsirius and I enjoy watching your videos. Sometimes I agree sometimes not, pretty much like everyone else. But if people unsub because you disagree or don't get along with someone else.......fuck them.
I like Immendham and I like you, I appreciate you 2 don't get on, but that isn't really my concern, I never seem to know the details of these things most of the time, I just like watching intelligent people who make interesting and original videos :)
I just watched the beginning of a video Gary has made in response to this video, and if I was you, I would never mention his name again. He has taken this like an obnoxious, unruly, not very pleasant child, with a behaviour and a brain and understanding to match. You must swallow the bitter pill that no normal conversation will take place between you and him.
@dewinthemorning the entire situation is ghastly... A restraining order would be taken out in the real world if someone acted like this… just ghastly...
With violence you DON'T achieve anything! Not in our times, anyway. I am sorry, but Gary doesn't have a clear plan for action, he just mentions violence with approval several times already. He seems unstable, judging from his behaviour.
But back to the truth. Tell me what truth are you talking about?
@dewinthemorning "Tell me what truth are you talking about?" - the fact that your 2B friend is a liar and you don't seem to care a bit, because hey, this inmendham dude sure is a weird fellow, isn't he? Anyway, I'm not here to convince anyone. It's my experience every single individual has made up it's mind about everything, before even engaging in anything that might be considered an engagement of individuals.
I was not referring to his tirades about me. I was speaking about some of the things he said in an interview. He now claims he was not advocating violence. If that's true the wording was at the very least confusing.
@dewinthemorning "Better say "2B lied about..." and then expose her lie".=> she lied about being jewish. I'm not able to expose her lies, since she's deleted the videos involved ... Are you a freethinker, or just a biased cunt, because of your liasons with certain people?
@abutnotantisocial What did you call me? Nevermind. So, what's so big about this lie NOW?
"liasons with certain people" Sorry, no luck there. I am not in any 'liasons' with anybody. I just give my opinion about things, and I don't care to whom I happen to be giving my opinion at any time. Absolutely haphazard.
@dewinthemorning "So, what's so big about this lie NOW?" - what's so big about Gary's behaviour NOW? Twee maten, twee gewichten. Je bent een onwaarschijnlijke hypocriete trut.
@dewinthemorning "So, let's agree to disagree." - that's what I should have said I suppose. Sorry 'bout the insults yesterday evening. Jekyll and Hyde when I'm drunk. I could delete the insulting comments, but I am no fan of re-writing (or erasing) history.
@abutnotantisocial Apology accepted. To tell you the truth, I didn't take those as insults, but as part of the conversation, when somebody doesn't have enough vocabulary at hand to express some indignation or irritation. I laughed, some juicy Brabantse swearing came to mind, but talking in a foreign language would seem impolite here, so I let it go. You were spared. :)
No I did not "lie about being Jewish"...Gary misunderstood something I said and assumed I must be Jewish. When I realized I thought that I did not immediately correct his misunderstanding because I was curious about the direction his verbal abuse took at that point. Gary only knows I'm not Jewish now because I told him. It's odd, don't you think, to correct a misunderstanding if you wanted to lie?
... to that video and let them make up their mind. You would not be silent, let the facts speak for themselves. That's my two cents. For the record, I'm only subbed to you, if Gary ever makes an interesting, fact based video, I might sub his channel too.
I think I'm a little late to this YT battle, I don't know the full story here, don't really care, what I am interested in is fact based videos that stimulate my mind. I can see how it is very difficult to ignore this kind of stuff and while I lean in the direction that silence is often mistaken for acceptance, I think maybe the best thing to do might be to make a video explaining exactly what has happened in the past and be done with it, if it gets brought up again I would just refer people...
Nooooooo! No more Gary. You promised. And I made a promise to you. Don't.
So what of a few people don;t take the time to look at even one of your videos and then decide to unsub. Seriously, are those the type of people you want as subs anyway?
1) It is fascinating how you describe your means of learning when there was discussion happening that involved you but simultaneously wasn't involving you. Strange to me when others talk but do not speak, or more precisely, speak to several people but do not specify who they are addressing. Or when in the video they are addressing that person at a particular time and they make it known or not, but there is the biggest point of this whole communication lost--why?
2) Why are they addressing, making known or not known, saying or not saying? What's the goal when we engage in these grandiose conversations--I think one could say it is all persona, but ultimately they are likely so large because we are dealing with both the needs of the arguer (self-enunciation) and the needs of society (to hear the argument).
Or why do some 'mirror' several video makers (videos) at the same time but not tell you which regards you, despite their obvious
3) connection to you. Why take on several perspectives at the same time--the person being addressed will only see one mask, after all, whether there are 120 or just 8.
It's all sort of an onslaught of reprobate admonition or admission, both of which have their place--in context, ideally.
But I think you understand what I mean despite sounding quixotic. Look, I will say I never understood how G and you went on despite your obvious mutual distaste, but the continued clarifications
(4) certainly produce or help generate anyway some very productive ideas and conversations for the community at large.
To sum, it is unfortunate emotions have been bent, but it is fortunate too--after all, both parties have to be moved in some way towards or away from carrion.
@fulishproductions Interesting slip as you really had me going there for awhile with your word choice of "carrion" --- which seemed quite insightful to me at first blush. After all, this opposition does seem like "dead meat" as given where something needs to emerge from the impasse before there can be much that would be good food for thought beyond this just being a personality conflict. Anyway, you misspoke really well!
@fulishproductions Yeah, I didn't take what you said as neg toward 2b, or even neg toward her getting emotionally caught up in an apparent impasse, since it can be of value, as you suggest, that those in a personal conflict be "moved" to the point they are exposed to other issues that emerge from initially just beating the dead horse (carrion) of hurt feelings. Your suggestion of focusing more upon specific claims or attacks vs general bad behaviour seems like a gd start.
@2bsirius Hi Karen, no I did not mean this as a parody of you at all. Actually each comment was commenting on several people and situations but without clarity, that's the only 'lesson' I colored in given I was talking about just that.
Again while what I was saying was applicable it was also meant for others' eyes and given this I prefer to keep it neutral, while still saying something.
Well lots of douchey arguments to be had on youtube. I tend to like to say what I think and describe what I see. But lots of people don't like that. They want to cover for their friends or make it hard for others to say what they say. So yeah I have been accused of things up and down, death threatened and claimed to be or have socks. But I would just stay away from that and not take it. So someone unsubs. They didn't have the integrity to check what is actually going on.
Gary has vehemently disagreed with me in the past and I was told he has said things about me that more than just unflattering. But to the best of my knowledge, Gary has never "done" anything "to me". And I fail to see why anybody should take the man seriously.
@rozeboosje "And I fail to see why anybody should take the man seriously" - that is indeed where you fail, Pino. He's much more of a freethinker than you'll ever be. And I'm not even a fan or anything. Just a distant observer.
Don't bother to reply btw. You blocked me a while ago, so I won't be aware (I think) ;)
Oh gawd u know they're going to talk about you in their yakity yak sessions, right? Those people who love him so much they'll unsub from you? Screw em. Anyway, youtube is going thru some kind of purge, maybe that's what's happening. Stay cool.
@xxxild (cont) also, I'm not particularly social either but it might be a good idea to park yourself in some blogTVs or any forum where people are socializing once in awhile.
I remember you asking us to remind you not to get wrapped up in this sort of situation (though a direct quote eludes me). Sometimes we have to speak first in order to let it go. I hope you can find some peace in this.
@2bsirius Well stop interacting with them. It's unhealthy for either of you to interact, if you wish to continue, it is on you, as you know he will not turn. If you don't like a fistfight, then don't get involved in one.
@2bsirius G'day... Well, for whatever it's worth... When I made a 1st vid about AN-ism Gary ignored me, & Booboo went ballistic. So I Potlatched her, severely. After a few more vids, G. disected one of mine so politely, & agreed with 3/4 of what I'd said, only saying I was a Kangaroo-Molester with a head full of shit...; we wound up laughing at the similarities. A pair of 50-ish Forest Fruitloops. Half my Pension is for Narcissistic PD with Anti-Social Traits. It IS Funny !
So you seem to indicate that he feels you're attacking him & you feel he is attacking you. Show so empathy to the perspective of one another. You both willfully repeat this process over and over, so someone better call chicken, because you both seem to enjoy this bullshit. Why else would you continually repeat it, over and over and over and over again? Then again you did a video called 'blind spots: we all have them', so maybe you might find out you're human and he is too.
I want to get back to making fact content videos. Yes, I could just do that and ignore this, but then his definition of who I am is the only one out there. "Someone better call chicken?" My point is that this should not be grade school playground stuff. I understand the need to show empathy. Let me just ask you what is empathetic in defining someone as a troll and saying that person is playing games and has sock accounts? Why make an assertions like that? No, I don't enjoy bullshit
(2) But I also don't like allowing someone else to present a very distorted account of who I am without countering it in any way either. I've said that I don't have sock accounts; I don't troll; and that everything I do I do on this channel and yet, that won't likely be enough to stop the unfounded assertions.
You just get tired of letting someone else tell the world who you are in the most extremely negative terms imaginable while you ignore the whole process.
"that won't likely be enough to stop the unfounded assertions."
That's happened to me before, but really, so what? Anyone who would judge someone based on gossip, hearsay, innuendo or false representations of your character or positions is not worthy of respect anyway, so why worry about it?
Ignore the trolls ma'am. Haters are going to hate. Do your thing, and filter out the chaff.
Mualkoth 1 week ago
Subbed, hang in there 2bsirius :)
jhnsnow421 4 weeks ago
@jhnsnow421
Thanks...I can promise you when I'm able to post videos again in a few weeks, they will NOT be about this subject.
2bsirius 4 weeks ago
So who's this Gary guy? What does he do? It's the first time i watch one of your videos and i came across this. I didn't intentionally subbed you by the way. When i subbed some other guy your channel must have been automatically suggested and i guess that's how i ended up here, seeing your video on my YouTube first page...Care to enlighten me what's going on here?
GreenerNautilus 4 weeks ago
@GreenerNautilus He's someone one neither you nor I should give much thought to. I made a video more than 4 years ago & he misunderstood what I said. So he targeted me and claimed I have no character and a lots of other unfounded abuse and nonsense. His false light accusations and insults have caused a number of trolls and haters to attack my integrity and my channel repeatedly. . He's done something similar to many others as well. Most people he targets just give up & close their channels.
2bsirius 4 weeks ago
@2bsirius So why not block the trolls and get on with it? By the way is he creationist or something? I mean this Gary guy.
GreenerNautilus 4 weeks ago
@2bsirius You can also flag/report the video in question for his baseless claims against you. What he does is not free speech, it is direct personal insult.
GreenerNautilus 4 weeks ago
oh for pete,s sake...you must forget about imendham he,s just a two bit car mechanic,a lacklustre one apparently,with demented delusions of being a great philosopher
lapisredux 4 weeks ago
sad lady is sad.
GreenerNautilus 4 weeks ago
@GreenerNautilus
No, the lady is not sad at all. The lady is exhausted with people saying the same absurd things over and over and being rewarded for it. It would only happen on YouTube, and the odd thing is YouTube could be used to talk about ideas--NOT ridiculour silliness like we need to end all life or the Nazis did not use Zyklon gas in WWII but REAL ideas. Instead, it's a forum for someone to be abusive and throw temper tantrums and be applauded it. Everyone should be sad about that imo.
2bsirius 4 weeks ago
I don't understand why you take Gary so seriously. I think a sober reflection on the relative importance people like Gary actually hold within your real life would be beneficial.
In the grand scheme of things, he's just another douchebag on the internet behaving outrageously because he can. By assigning his behavious importance you are encouraging it to continue. You cannot control what people think and say. The only thing within your power to change is how you react.
sofiarune 4 weeks ago
@sofiarune
I shouldn't, but I have never been been the target of such angry slanders before or been told that I have no character or been the target of the other horrible insults he's thrown around for years now. I'm tired of his false light portrayal of me. It's hard to live with the fact that so many gullible people believe his nastiness and abusive slurs ... It's lead to a lot of negative attention from trolls and those who imitate and repeat what he says.
2bsirius 4 weeks ago
@2bsirius You cannot control them. If you cannot control your reaction to them, then perhaps youtube or the internet in general is just not for you. To illustrate my point, go back and watch Gary's video called 2bEDafied. Skip to 24:41 and watch it until the end. (This will take you there: watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gLDUWEykp3w#t=1481s)
Is it, in your estimation, reasonable to devote so much time and energy to someone like that? Think about it for a bit.
sofiarune 4 weeks ago
@sofiarune
I can no longer watch Gary's videos. I have a visceral reaction to trying. The truth is that I just want him to apologize for the fact that he so willfully misrepresented this. He has refused to even think about what he did and what he said. Instead he has painted me as all manor of evil to distract from his unfounded claims. He has never admitted that he was wrong about what he claimed was true. He does a lot of damage and then just goes on to damage again without consequence.
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@2bsirius Remember the part where I told you that you cannot control other people? You don't have some intrinsic right to dictate what they feel either. The damage he does is only as great as you let it be.
Reality check: you're having a feud with a lunatic on the internet and it's lasted 4 years. You're not exactly being a reasonable emotionally balanced adult in this situation either. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you engage in this. Take some responsibility.
sofiarune 4 weeks ago
@2bsirius
Sofiarune is exactly right. Nobody "owes" us anything - apologies etc. I've been falsely represented by people before, but meh. The court of public opinion simply doesn't matter much to me. Anyone who judges us on anything other than direct quotes, who relies on gossip, innuendo and assumptions to assess us isn't worth worrying about.
carmel1119 3 weeks ago
i fapped to your voice:)
im10pplok 4 weeks ago
[Thumbs down]
longcatisloooooong 4 weeks ago
@longcatisloooooong
You have lots of company. A lot of trolls, haters and groupthinkers descend on my channel everything I say that if Gary wants to say something [especially something as important as what happened in the Holocaust] he needs to take the time to research it before he tells everyone he has 'infallible' knowledge.
Now go back to your friends and tell them that you told that ignorant bitch to go f*ck herself and get a big slap on the back. You must be proud.
2bsirius 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@2bsirius Ooh, scary scary. The old "intellectual superiority" trick. It's okay though. You can go back to thinking you've vanquished me through your condescending rhetoric and your snark now. I won't play along any further. You fucking bitch.
longcatisloooooong 4 weeks ago
@longcatisloooooong *slaps longcat on the back*
good boy! you have served our lord and savior, inmendham, well. you shall be rewarded with further pats to the back.
theinflatablehuman 4 weeks ago
@theinflatablehuman if you'd posted your nonsense, but instead of targeting me you'd targeted Gary, he'd remove your comments, block you & then make a vicious video about how stupid you are, & you think I'm condescending?
Fine, now go insult someone else. It seems to be what gives your lives meaning. It's blindness is great for comic relief too, at least for those who can see the irony. Surely Gary is attacking someone else by now & you can go insult his new target & stop wasting time here
2bsirius 4 weeks ago
@RaymondLully
I always disable ratings on videos about this. It's the only ways to keep the trolls and group thinkers from descending on command and trashing ratings, as they are trashing this comment section.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@lukey111100 he still makes ad hominen attacks and strawmening people, instead of actually debating. this lady that made this video doesnt deserve these kind of attacks.
gotohellgooglization 1 month ago
Do you think videos like this help your situation much?
TheGraniteFlaneur 1 month ago
@TheGraniteFlaneur
What situation is that exactly? And how is responding with the truth a problem for you?
2bsirius 1 month ago
(2) And one more thing, if you'd written a comment like this on any of Gary Imendham's videos, it would have been removed and you would have been blocked immediately.
2bsirius 1 month ago
(3) Is that you way you think someone "helps [his] situation? Obviously, you must.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@2bsirius It's not a problem for me, but I'm sure we both know who it will be a problem for. And truth is subjective. Already been blocked, a long time ago. I know what he is like, actually we both know what he is like, which is why videos such as this will be counter-productive. Are you trying to press his buttons? 'Obvious' I must? Ehm no, the only thing obvious is this doesn't help him any either (but then, you know that right!).
TheGraniteFlaneur 1 month ago
@TheGraniteFlaneur
I'm trying to get an apology for all those who were gassed and the families of those who who were gassed during the war. Also, for the troops who saw the horrors when they liberated the camps and had to live with what they saw every day for the rest of their lives.
Does that mean I'm saying Gary is 'denier'? No, but I am saying if he wants to claim he knows something he doesn't know, he should at least express remorse about continuing the a cycle of damage and the pain.
2bsirius 1 month ago
(2) As for "this doesn't help him..." WHY do we need to make what helps Gary count more than what happened to all the children, the old the sick and the rest who could not make it through the selections -- and they were NOT just Jews, of course. They were Polish, Gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally 'inferior'...They were all human beings. Why isn't that important?
2bsirius 1 month ago
(3) (3) He will never admit to making mistakes. We all make mistakes. But instead he continues to inflict insults & abuse on anyone who wants to say that what happened matters. Everyone just seems to be ecstatic about the fact that Gary has someone to be abusive to and to scream at and challenge the humanity of and trolls and haters can then descend on that person and try to force him/her to close their account rather than have their fearless leader told he's done damage & that he was mistaken.
2bsirius 1 month ago
(4) How exactly does that 'help' Gary at all? It just makes him think that whatever he decides to do is OK because he never has to see that there might be consequences for abusing someone verbally or for claiming to have the absolute 'truth' about something you have not taken the time to research. I'd like an answer. How does that 'help' Gary, exactly? He does what he wants and everybody is deathly afraid to question him. That helps no-one at all.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@RaymondLully no but he will block you if you disagree with him in a way that threats his house of cards psudologic
masluxx 1 month ago
@2bsirius Still playing Gary's game are you ah? Have you not figured out yet he does not have an original idea in his head, and that, as a troll, he only regurgitates ideas he knows other will find distasteful? That like a lonely misguided child he seeks attention thew bad behavior. As a child that can be understood and tolerated because children grow, that is what they do. However, Gary as a grown man, it is pathetic that he is stuck in this behavior and it should not be encouraged.
masluxx 1 month ago
Nobody really cares about this accept you, and the type of moron who swallows unquestioningly whatever crap comes out of inmendham's mouth. Gary doesn't have a life, this online medium IS his life pretty much. Think about that.
Ages ago I made a couple of videos towards him which he responded to (predictably) with unreasonable rants. I was tempted to respond but I didn't. I moaned about him in comments for a while and then just ignored his existance completely.
petermaquire 1 month ago
Hello! I recognized your voice from an InMendham chat session that was set to scary music and a red filter effect. It is a shame that the you and InMendham don't do more videos together. In the vid I saw, he had a visceral quality, while your disembodied voice was strangely ethereal. The combination of the two of you make for great entertainment. I found mysef not so much as agreeing with either of you, but rather, I admired the contrast in manner and audiovisual textures. Rock on!
Qntkka 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
He sounds like a child, who can't make an arguement, and instead resorts to attacks. His fan base sounds equally childish. Just ignore him, he will go away.
When you said, you were not looking for friends on the web. I just want you to know, you have a friend in this old man...Peace
CBTENGR100 1 month ago
I'm here for a rational discussion. I can't get that on Gary's channels. I hope to see more of it here, keep up the good work.
sachamm 1 month ago
You give far too much attention to Gary.
Maxdwolf 1 month ago
"I didn't have the stomach to watch it" we both know that's a lie ;)
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
you have a lovely voice 2bsirius and I enjoy watching your videos. Sometimes I agree sometimes not, pretty much like everyone else. But if people unsub because you disagree or don't get along with someone else.......fuck them.
I like Immendham and I like you, I appreciate you 2 don't get on, but that isn't really my concern, I never seem to know the details of these things most of the time, I just like watching intelligent people who make interesting and original videos :)
SatiricalStewie 1 month ago
I agree with Dewinthemorning.
zombeepictureshow 1 month ago
I just watched the beginning of a video Gary has made in response to this video, and if I was you, I would never mention his name again. He has taken this like an obnoxious, unruly, not very pleasant child, with a behaviour and a brain and understanding to match. You must swallow the bitter pill that no normal conversation will take place between you and him.
dewinthemorning 1 month ago in playlist More videos from 2bsirius
@dewinthemorning I meant 'unpleasat child'...
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning the entire situation is ghastly... A restraining order would be taken out in the real world if someone acted like this… just ghastly...
TheWisemonkey8 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning The truth is of no importance, obviously?
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial The truth, Abutnotantisocial? What truth?
With violence you DON'T achieve anything! Not in our times, anyway. I am sorry, but Gary doesn't have a clear plan for action, he just mentions violence with approval several times already. He seems unstable, judging from his behaviour.
But back to the truth. Tell me what truth are you talking about?
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning "Tell me what truth are you talking about?" - the fact that your 2B friend is a liar and you don't seem to care a bit, because hey, this inmendham dude sure is a weird fellow, isn't he? Anyway, I'm not here to convince anyone. It's my experience every single individual has made up it's mind about everything, before even engaging in anything that might be considered an engagement of individuals.
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial "With violence you DON'T achieve anything!" - where's the violence? You confuse mockery with violence.
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial
I was not referring to his tirades about me. I was speaking about some of the things he said in an interview. He now claims he was not advocating violence. If that's true the wording was at the very least confusing.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial 'Liar' is a strong word. Better say "2B lied about..." and then expose her lie.
Do you really think "this inmendham dude sure is a weird fellow"? Why?
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning Reversed psychology? :p
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial I still didn't hear what, in your opinion, is the truth, which, according to you, I disregard?
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning "Better say "2B lied about..." and then expose her lie".=> she lied about being jewish. I'm not able to expose her lies, since she's deleted the videos involved ... Are you a freethinker, or just a biased cunt, because of your liasons with certain people?
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial And this is not a soc account?
TheWisemonkey8 1 month ago
@TheWisemonkey8 Nope.
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial I hope not... the truth always comes to the fore...
TheWisemonkey8 1 month ago
@TheWisemonkey8 No, it doesn't. Otherwise it would have exposed you as an utter disgusting troll way back ;)
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial What did you call me? Nevermind. So, what's so big about this lie NOW?
"liasons with certain people" Sorry, no luck there. I am not in any 'liasons' with anybody. I just give my opinion about things, and I don't care to whom I happen to be giving my opinion at any time. Absolutely haphazard.
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning "So, what's so big about this lie NOW?" - what's so big about Gary's behaviour NOW? Twee maten, twee gewichten. Je bent een onwaarschijnlijke hypocriete trut.
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial Nog vergeten. Ik noemde je een bevooroordeelde kut ;)
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial Ik heb je goed begrepen. Nevermind, I said. :)
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial Did I say something was "so big about Gary's behaviour NOW?"
Ok, I know already what you like to call me, but... no skin off my nose, to tell you the truth. So, let's agree to disagree.
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
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@dewinthemorning "So, let's agree to disagree." - that's what I should have said I suppose. Sorry 'bout the insults yesterday evening. Jekyll and Hyde when I'm drunk. I could delete the insulting comments, but I am no fan of re-writing (or erasing) history.
Nogmaals excuus.
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial Apology accepted. To tell you the truth, I didn't take those as insults, but as part of the conversation, when somebody doesn't have enough vocabulary at hand to express some indignation or irritation. I laughed, some juicy Brabantse swearing came to mind, but talking in a foreign language would seem impolite here, so I let it go. You were spared. :)
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning Thnx. It would have been fun though :)
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial
No I did not "lie about being Jewish"...Gary misunderstood something I said and assumed I must be Jewish. When I realized I thought that I did not immediately correct his misunderstanding because I was curious about the direction his verbal abuse took at that point. Gary only knows I'm not Jewish now because I told him. It's odd, don't you think, to correct a misunderstanding if you wanted to lie?
2bsirius 1 month ago
The man should be locked up...
TheWisemonkey8 1 month ago
@TheWisemonkey8 Really? Why?
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
@abutnotantisocial
You are blocked. I don't have the patience for any more of your nonsense.
2bsirius 1 month ago
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TheWisemonkey8 1 month ago
... to that video and let them make up their mind. You would not be silent, let the facts speak for themselves. That's my two cents. For the record, I'm only subbed to you, if Gary ever makes an interesting, fact based video, I might sub his channel too.
SpaceFrawg 1 month ago
I think I'm a little late to this YT battle, I don't know the full story here, don't really care, what I am interested in is fact based videos that stimulate my mind. I can see how it is very difficult to ignore this kind of stuff and while I lean in the direction that silence is often mistaken for acceptance, I think maybe the best thing to do might be to make a video explaining exactly what has happened in the past and be done with it, if it gets brought up again I would just refer people...
SpaceFrawg 1 month ago
Nooooooo! No more Gary. You promised. And I made a promise to you. Don't.
So what of a few people don;t take the time to look at even one of your videos and then decide to unsub. Seriously, are those the type of people you want as subs anyway?
You can discuss things with other people.
/watch?v=2KlgRUCEaiw
alowlyapprentice 1 month ago
I am disgusted... disgusted...
TheWisemonkey8 1 month ago
1) It is fascinating how you describe your means of learning when there was discussion happening that involved you but simultaneously wasn't involving you. Strange to me when others talk but do not speak, or more precisely, speak to several people but do not specify who they are addressing. Or when in the video they are addressing that person at a particular time and they make it known or not, but there is the biggest point of this whole communication lost--why?
fulishproductions 1 month ago
2) Why are they addressing, making known or not known, saying or not saying? What's the goal when we engage in these grandiose conversations--I think one could say it is all persona, but ultimately they are likely so large because we are dealing with both the needs of the arguer (self-enunciation) and the needs of society (to hear the argument).
Or why do some 'mirror' several video makers (videos) at the same time but not tell you which regards you, despite their obvious
fulishproductions 1 month ago
3) connection to you. Why take on several perspectives at the same time--the person being addressed will only see one mask, after all, whether there are 120 or just 8.
It's all sort of an onslaught of reprobate admonition or admission, both of which have their place--in context, ideally.
But I think you understand what I mean despite sounding quixotic. Look, I will say I never understood how G and you went on despite your obvious mutual distaste, but the continued clarifications
fulishproductions 1 month ago
(4) certainly produce or help generate anyway some very productive ideas and conversations for the community at large.
To sum, it is unfortunate emotions have been bent, but it is fortunate too--after all, both parties have to be moved in some way towards or away from carrion.
fulishproductions 1 month ago
@fulishproductions *towards or away from conversation I meant, I meant 'to carry on'
fulishproductions 1 month ago
@fulishproductions Interesting slip as you really had me going there for awhile with your word choice of "carrion" --- which seemed quite insightful to me at first blush. After all, this opposition does seem like "dead meat" as given where something needs to emerge from the impasse before there can be much that would be good food for thought beyond this just being a personality conflict. Anyway, you misspoke really well!
gedgetips 1 month ago
@gedgetips i had one too many 'i meants', otherwise i spoke with strikingly precise significance...but, probably in too many ways
hopefully the larger shape of what was said in terms of its multifaceted approach will be seen and appreciated.
fulishproductions 1 month ago
@fulishproductions Yeah, I didn't take what you said as neg toward 2b, or even neg toward her getting emotionally caught up in an apparent impasse, since it can be of value, as you suggest, that those in a personal conflict be "moved" to the point they are exposed to other issues that emerge from initially just beating the dead horse (carrion) of hurt feelings. Your suggestion of focusing more upon specific claims or attacks vs general bad behaviour seems like a gd start.
gedgetips 1 month ago
@gedgetips
VERY funny...Carrion somewhere else please.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@fulishproductions
If this is intended as a parody of me, it's a good one, and I know I have the problem, so point taken.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@2bsirius Hi Karen, no I did not mean this as a parody of you at all. Actually each comment was commenting on several people and situations but without clarity, that's the only 'lesson' I colored in given I was talking about just that.
Again while what I was saying was applicable it was also meant for others' eyes and given this I prefer to keep it neutral, while still saying something.
Hope that clarifies, Keith
fulishproductions 1 month ago
Well lots of douchey arguments to be had on youtube. I tend to like to say what I think and describe what I see. But lots of people don't like that. They want to cover for their friends or make it hard for others to say what they say. So yeah I have been accused of things up and down, death threatened and claimed to be or have socks. But I would just stay away from that and not take it. So someone unsubs. They didn't have the integrity to check what is actually going on.
socrates856 1 month ago
hate coming into the midle of something, not understanding where every thing came from.
who is greg, and what is this all about (more or less)?
eyallev 1 month ago
Since it is comical we must have a laugh.
Barklord 1 month ago
Gary has vehemently disagreed with me in the past and I was told he has said things about me that more than just unflattering. But to the best of my knowledge, Gary has never "done" anything "to me". And I fail to see why anybody should take the man seriously.
rozeboosje 1 month ago
@rozeboosje Well, he is highly intelligent.
perlefleur 1 month ago
@perlefleur imdenhamn??? no, he is dumber than a box of rocks.
gotohellgooglization 1 month ago
@perlefleur compared to a slug, perhaps
rozeboosje 1 month ago
@rozeboosje "And I fail to see why anybody should take the man seriously" - that is indeed where you fail, Pino. He's much more of a freethinker than you'll ever be. And I'm not even a fan or anything. Just a distant observer.
Don't bother to reply btw. You blocked me a while ago, so I won't be aware (I think) ;)
abutnotantisocial 1 month ago
Oh gawd u know they're going to talk about you in their yakity yak sessions, right? Those people who love him so much they'll unsub from you? Screw em. Anyway, youtube is going thru some kind of purge, maybe that's what's happening. Stay cool.
xxxild 1 month ago
@xxxild (cont) also, I'm not particularly social either but it might be a good idea to park yourself in some blogTVs or any forum where people are socializing once in awhile.
xxxild 1 month ago
Uprated.
slobomotion 1 month ago
I remember you asking us to remind you not to get wrapped up in this sort of situation (though a direct quote eludes me). Sometimes we have to speak first in order to let it go. I hope you can find some peace in this.
EuphoricImpact 1 month ago
@EuphoricImpact
I hope so too. I hope I learn the art of putting my fingers in my ears and humming loudly. Sometimes that's a sane strategy, obviously.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@2bsirius Well stop interacting with them. It's unhealthy for either of you to interact, if you wish to continue, it is on you, as you know he will not turn. If you don't like a fistfight, then don't get involved in one.
hallcyon 1 month ago
@2bsirius G'day... Well, for whatever it's worth... When I made a 1st vid about AN-ism Gary ignored me, & Booboo went ballistic. So I Potlatched her, severely. After a few more vids, G. disected one of mine so politely, & agreed with 3/4 of what I'd said, only saying I was a Kangaroo-Molester with a head full of shit...; we wound up laughing at the similarities. A pair of 50-ish Forest Fruitloops. Half my Pension is for Narcissistic PD with Anti-Social Traits. It IS Funny !
WarblesOnALot 1 month ago
In the years that I've watched your channel there doesn't seem to be any good reason for me to hold the view point that you have sock accounts.
EpistemicDuty 1 month ago
@EpistemicDuty
Who has the time for sock accounts?
2bsirius 1 month ago
So you seem to indicate that he feels you're attacking him & you feel he is attacking you. Show so empathy to the perspective of one another. You both willfully repeat this process over and over, so someone better call chicken, because you both seem to enjoy this bullshit. Why else would you continually repeat it, over and over and over and over again? Then again you did a video called 'blind spots: we all have them', so maybe you might find out you're human and he is too.
hallcyon 1 month ago
@hallcyon
I want to get back to making fact content videos. Yes, I could just do that and ignore this, but then his definition of who I am is the only one out there. "Someone better call chicken?" My point is that this should not be grade school playground stuff. I understand the need to show empathy. Let me just ask you what is empathetic in defining someone as a troll and saying that person is playing games and has sock accounts? Why make an assertions like that? No, I don't enjoy bullshit
2bsirius 1 month ago
(2) But I also don't like allowing someone else to present a very distorted account of who I am without countering it in any way either. I've said that I don't have sock accounts; I don't troll; and that everything I do I do on this channel and yet, that won't likely be enough to stop the unfounded assertions.
You just get tired of letting someone else tell the world who you are in the most extremely negative terms imaginable while you ignore the whole process.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@2bsirius
"that won't likely be enough to stop the unfounded assertions."
That's happened to me before, but really, so what? Anyone who would judge someone based on gossip, hearsay, innuendo or false representations of your character or positions is not worthy of respect anyway, so why worry about it?
carmel1119 1 month ago
@2bsirius Get back to do it? Then just do it, bypass all of this. Let it be. Then again I have said this before, dismissed again.
hallcyon 1 month ago
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TWITfromURANUS 1 month ago
known you for 2-3 years and your a REALLY sweet girl
IceysMoment 1 month ago
@IceysMoment
Thanks...Of course, you really are very sweet. I tend to have more sharp edges, I'm afraid.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@2bsirius i think we all have them "sharp edges" ,,i'm not that innocent;)
IceysMoment 1 month ago
@IceysMoment
I didn't see this additional comment. Yes, this was sort of my point.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@2bsirius can you explain what excatly you mean by "sharp edges" ?
cos cases like this,i wouldn't be a sweet girl,i would stop long time ago and keep doing what i love to do.
But you don't..so help me understand here?
IceysMoment 1 month ago
@IceysMoment
I just mean that I never thought of myself as sweet.
2bsirius 1 month ago
@2bsirius your sweet and i watched Garys videoi stand for what i wrote in the comment
i know you both
not my argument
yet the chopstick joke was funny to me...
maybe this is the thing your way to sweet to handle stuff like this?
IceysMoment 1 month ago
@IceysMoment
Don't worry about. I'm not with the humor police.
2bsirius 1 month ago