Is not evidence that brings the linear brains to realize the true. If you want to expose 911 as an inside job, you have to be in the same power position as the ones who committed the scam.
You must understand that linear thinkers are helpless in the hands of a leader. But this society wouldn't work if everyone was a free thinker, the linear thinkers have great memory and calculation skills, but they can never realize things outside context.
there is termite, and then you have Super Termite used by an elite top secret demolition group that do not , I repeat do not use conventional methods in building demolition !
especially in propane will effect the ratios of oxy to fuel to obtain a smooth cut you have to know heat!Jet fuel don't burn much hotter than kerosene!My whole point is that heat has to be focused on a single point than oxy applied thus cutting the metal,jet fuel does not burn hot enought to heat barjoists to red hot so as the weight of the deck collapses it as was tried to be explained by the history channel yrs ago We are at least 50 years behind hidden technologies that only a few know about
@Ancientmirrors1 Yes there were some absurd shill suggestions that all the elements of thermite were present between the building and the a/c as if they were some how magically mixed to exact ratios necessary and focused at the right points. LOL!
@izzysykopth Did you check out the video response to this? After all there is $10,000 riding on it. I didnt see any torch (as official trolls have claimed) and the oxides are STILL on the far side of the cut. I think we should find some ironworkers here on YT and get them to view the vids and comment. Some one here offered to double the reward!
LOL I'm an ex Ironworker Holy Christ I just got a message from ,I guess he's a mechanic probably do't know half as much about cars ,trucks hell anything with an engine in it as do I,Anyway I know the kind of heat required to melt steel put it this way you need heat to oxidize steel there is a ratio of fuel to air to cut metal,oxy in a cylinder is 20% oxygen 8o% nitrogen, for just the purposes of heating steel with a rose bud you need to change the ratio of acetylene to oxy tip size
Is not evidence that brings the linear brains to realize the true. If you want to expose 911 as an inside job, you have to be in the same power position as the ones who committed the scam.
You must understand that linear thinkers are helpless in the hands of a leader. But this society wouldn't work if everyone was a free thinker, the linear thinkers have great memory and calculation skills, but they can never realize things outside context.
there is termite, and then you have Super Termite used by an elite top secret demolition group that do not , I repeat do not use conventional methods in building demolition !
especially in propane will effect the ratios of oxy to fuel to obtain a smooth cut you have to know heat!Jet fuel don't burn much hotter than kerosene!My whole point is that heat has to be focused on a single point than oxy applied thus cutting the metal,jet fuel does not burn hot enought to heat barjoists to red hot so as the weight of the deck collapses it as was tried to be explained by the history channel yrs ago We are at least 50 years behind hidden technologies that only a few know about
@Ancientmirrors1 Yes there were some absurd shill suggestions that all the elements of thermite were present between the building and the a/c as if they were some how magically mixed to exact ratios necessary and focused at the right points. LOL!
@izzysykopth Did you check out the video response to this? After all there is $10,000 riding on it. I didnt see any torch (as official trolls have claimed) and the oxides are STILL on the far side of the cut. I think we should find some ironworkers here on YT and get them to view the vids and comment. Some one here offered to double the reward!
LOL I'm an ex Ironworker Holy Christ I just got a message from ,I guess he's a mechanic probably do't know half as much about cars ,trucks hell anything with an engine in it as do I,Anyway I know the kind of heat required to melt steel put it this way you need heat to oxidize steel there is a ratio of fuel to air to cut metal,oxy in a cylinder is 20% oxygen 8o% nitrogen, for just the purposes of heating steel with a rose bud you need to change the ratio of acetylene to oxy tip size
@eline65 Wrong. Slag is what remains of flux after a weld is completed. Refractory oxides are whats left of the base material after a class 'd' cut or burn.
@izzysykopth Oh sorry about the lack of technicalities. So slag is no longer a slang term among metal workers for the metal that melts away after a torch?
@eline65 No worries. Very common among ironworkers etc to call the oxides slag. Its not really slang but a mislabel. The only reason I am more specific here is the technical aspects of this challenge.
@izzysykopth Oh sorry about the lack of technicalities. So slag is no longer a slang term among metal workers for the metal that melts away after a torch?
@eline65 No worries. Very common among ironworkers etc to call the oxides slag. Its not really slang but a mislabel. The only reason I am more specific here is the technical aspects of this challenge.
@danschaoticmind Does a cabinet maker know the difference between maple, oak and poplar at a glance? Does a loan officer know by skimming over an app if the applicant will qualify? Can a mechanic often tell what is wrong with a car just by listening? This video has been up over 2 and a half years. My butt is still in one piece. Take the challenge. Read the comment board. ANYONE that does this work will tell you the same thing. Its both comical and insulting to suggest jet fuel is the culprit.
@izzysykopth That doesn't change a thing. Your assertion is still an argument from authority. An argument from authority is useless in a logical debate. I'm actually putting off on watching the entirety of your video due to time constraints getting some Geology work done on top of regular work and of course shuttle coverage. Don't worry, We will get into an actual discussion concerning the merits of your argument in due time.
But please, dispense with the logical fallacies KKTHX.
@Moreofthesamez That arguments from authority carry little weight. What does carry the most weight is a body of evidence leading to a logical conclusion (Stress studies, ballistics investigations done independently etc) not someone saying "I'm an iron worker X is impossible".
@Moreofthesamez Why? That is a nice red herring logical fallacy by the way. The point I made was that an argument containing clear lines of evidence have far more bearing than the regurgitated stuff that is stated. You should, perhaps, brush up on your reading comprehension skills. Because I am not debating evidence at all right now. I am telling you, that in order to have a case you have to have evidence. Arguments from authority are logical fallacies and using them makes an argument fall apart
@danschaoticmind What you should do is learn about legal procedure and what is considered evidence. Expert testimony is admissible as evidence. As a Journey Ironworker and Cert Weldor since 88 my testimony is admissible and is contained in this video. Photographs ARE evidence. Any questions?
@izzysykopth Yeah, why do you think that a legal procedure is the only procedure worth noting? did it not occur to you that your expert testimony could easily be overturned by scientific evidence? Thus, you have to make a scientific case well before you can make a legal case. Keep that in mind.
@danschaoticmind Regardless of what scientific evidence they present I would simply demonstrate the use of a torch and prove the cuts would leave the oxides on the FAR SIDE of the cut. The physical IMPOSSIBILITY of the o'fish'ial story would be exposed to any jury and it would be game over.
@izzysykopth And yet you keep forgetting that the presence of such oxides still are consistant with the present theory. Which is precisely why 9/11 truth has been consigned to wingnut status. In short: you would still need to prove through scientific means that such could only happen in the conditions you state. This actually applies to both scientific and legal cases. This is known as the burden of proof which lies with you.
@danschaoticmind No they are not consistent with the current lies which seem to change as each previous lie is proven to be beyond the confines of reality. It has been proven scientifically, in fact all the elements are indeed present including malice aforethought, means motive and opportunity, M.O. prior acts, personal, political and financial gain, habeas corpus and guilty demeanor. The historical precedents alone defy the laws of probability. Only advocates of the lies are perps and morons.
@w0bbl3r No only you and your troll buddies agree. Look at the comments from people that do this for a living. Like me. Some have even offered another $10,000. LOL!!!! Least you smartened up enough to stay in the shallow end!!! LMAO!!!
@bambam9969 Not a torch. A thermic lance! I can't post a link here, so you'll have to decipher this. I found a pic at motorsportsartist com slash nogod slash wp-content slash uploads slash 2007 slash 05 slash cut dot jpg
The problem with this "evidence" of a cut column is that there is no time stamp that says it was in that condition prior to the clean up crew. There is much better evidence to support controlled demolition in the WTC on 9/11, and 7 WTC's collapse is the best place to start.
@uncledevo Except there are photos of the cuts where the firefighters can be seen still in their full response gear and long BEFORE the clean up crews were allowed access. Good points though. The evidence from every corner is so far off the charts now that any who advocate the official lies should be scrutinized as accessories after the fact. THX for watching and the comments.
@izzysykopth the possibility of thermite being used is plausible maybe just not the type we are thinking of,like i said there is a type they can paint on that is very volitile,maybe even a advanced type of det chord was used,there was alot of activity before this happen in the building,people suposedly painting,hmmmm!!! but i will agree i dont think it was cut with a torch,how would they have done it unnoticed,the time frame would have taken weeks to use torches,just my opinion!!!
@thecandidate0607 Just scroll thru the comments and you will see any one with professional experience agrees. Whos full of shit? You dont even know what a kerf is. LOL!!! Its the void left by the cutting jet itself. Does not matter if you are cutting off a foot or 100 feet. Kerf remains the same.
@izzysykopth Kerf is the width of the path that a cutting tool makes you idiot. Not the void left by a cutting jet. The void left by a cutting jet is the cut itself. And No I am not saying that the kerf somehow changes the overall length of the piece as you are stating. Let me just give you a little math problem a 10 foot piece gets cut in half the tool has a 1/2 inch kerf. What are the length of the two pieces after the cut is made?
@thecandidate0607 And the jet is? A cutting tool. I never suggested the kerf changes the length. What I am stating is it does not matter what length is cut off. Kerf is kerf period.
@izzysykopth You invoked the term jet, I assumed you were referring to a waterjet cutting tool. You claim in the video is that thermite was used to cut that 16" x 24" box column with 1-1/8" thick walls simply because a cutting torch or thermic lance wouldnt have left so much slag on the outside of the column. Are you aware that thermite doesnt cut horizontally? And do you know how much thermite is required to make that cut?
@thecandidate0607 I NEVER claim thermite cut the steel. Nor do I suggest I am aware of the amounts required. Thermite will cut horizontally once a lateral load is applied. Gravity is all that will prevent a horizontal cut. Your alligator mouth is outracing your hummingbird mind. Why are you arguing outside the facts in the presentation?
@izzysykopth So what do you think cut that column exactly since it wasnt thermite and a explosive charge wouldnt have left slag on the column. But your comment above stated you believe "incinderies" cut the column. So what lateral force can be used to make thermite cut horizontally? Could the thermite been placed in an apparatus that controlled the heat flow of the thermite to cut horizontally?
@thecandidate0607 Check out part three of Three Seconds to Impact for more detail. If the incinderies were applied at an angle once the weight of the building was applied their would be a lateral as well as gravitational or vertical load.
@thecandidate0607 And the void left by a cutting jet is... The width of the path of a cutting tool!!!! Can you engage in anything other than doublespeak?
Now that would depend on where the cut was laid out now wouldnt it? If you want to play stupid puzzle games why dont you ask what the COMBINED length of the two pieces are and then the layout location becomes irrelevant doesnt it?
@izzysykopth Really?!?! 9 months and all you can manage to assemble is the same retarded logic you were spouting 9 months ago. Come back when you have learned anything on the topic.
@spectator1107 The only retarded logic is your assumption it took me 9 mos to respond when it only took seconds. I have other things to do than entertain your neanderthal mind. Come back when you grow up and can even understand welding and cutting nomenclature or go pitch it to all ZERO of your subs. You've grown quite an audience to your way of thinking! LMAO!!! HMMM? Joined in 2011 huh? With 9 month old comments? More like revived an abandoned troll account? Explain that.
@izzysykopth You're right I work for the government and my job is to post misinformation so nobody knows what really happened. You keep plugging away trooper, one day maybe you might get another brain cell that you can rub the other one against and come up with something original. I ditched my old account when I got a new email address. And since your name pops up on NUMEROUS 9-11 videos, you tell me who the troll is.
@izzysykopth What I am saying is that its hard to determine the kerf of the cut without knowing the overall length of the piece. Thats pretty simple the overall length of the original piece minus the lengths of the two intact pieces gives you the kerf of the cut. So if I have two pieces of steel that are 4'-11-7/8" and I know that the original piece was 10' long I know that the cutting tool had a 1/4" kerf. This isnt rocket science try to keep up.
Showing workers cutting ANYTHING doesn't prove other columns weren't cut by thermite/thermate. If you had a few dozen little columns at the base of the collapsed building that were proof of CD, the first thing you're going to do is a) begin cutting to get rid of evidence, b) cut to pose for the camera so everybody can say "yeah, they were cut after..."
All meaningless, therefore prove this can be done, plain and simple.
You know what, everybody shut the fuck up, debunk this mans claims or admit you're full of shit. No point in using all you're deflunker arguments and twisted logic. Put up or shut up, take the god damned challenge.
If it can be done, DO IT. These guys are so big on wanting everything scientific yet they bring arguments to a physical challenge.
@izzysykopth I was a little wroth, wasn't I? =) Just so very tired of these creeps getting away with everything and anything they want to, basically since JFK, all because they know how to play the public. They know the public worships authority and has a tendency to accept anything as long as it has an official stamp on it, no matter how ridiculous and impossible the claims are. Have you seen the "PentaCon" website or their new video?
@N1k1mon Havent seen their new vid. There is SOOOOO MUCH evidence it defies any powers of observation or common sense for these trolls to even claim they are sincere supporters of the lies anymore. If they had to face their fellow Americans with such absurd arguments they would be conspicuously absent I would bet.
@izzysykopth Yup. It's easy to forget when standing up for the side which has the gov't and their respectives agencies by their side, that things are going to "look" a certain way, e.g. OF COURSE when framing Oswald they did everything in their power to make him look guilty, thats the whole flippin' concept of creating a pAtsy. Much different than simply grabbing a stranger off the street and saying "He did it". Our best intell. agencies were about this business for years. Instead of being scien
-tific about these cases and assuming that either side could be lying and trying to determine just what capabilities these people had for framing Oswald,their motives, their connections and realizing this is their Modus Operandi, they assume that these people are fools, incapable of pulling off something like this, ergo LHO must be truly guilty. Any ONE of dozens of facts in the case should be enough to cause serious suspicion yet it doesnt. Case in point, nos released CIA documents showing LHO
was an operative. That one piece alone is HUGE! Add to that facts the Milteer recording 4 days before the assassination describing exactly how it was going to go down, THEN his later statements "See you thought I was joking when I told you he's be taken out with a high powered rifle..". However since there are HUNDREDS of similar provable facts as weighty as these, a child could see there's some problems with the Lone Nut theory and the Village Idiot could see the Warren Commission (Headed by
a man whom Kennedy had fired and was known to despise the man) was rigged from the get-go, "Like having the Fox investigate the Henhouse", I find it interesting the proponent and co-author of the SBT was named Specter; Specter being a synonym for SPOOK, obviously aided Hoover's agenda (along with others) since both JFK and RFK were seriously putting the heat on him AND wanted to disassemble the CIA. Many people had motive, that's why it worked. Piss off the CIA,FBI, MOB, LBJ & you're in trouble.
-tific about these cases and assuming that either side could be lying and trying to determine just what capabilities these people had for framing Oswald,their motives, their connections and realizing this is their Modus Operandi, they assume that these people are fools, incapable of pulling off something like this, ergo LHO must be truly guilty. Any ONE of dozens of facts in the case should be enough to cause serious suspicion yet it doesnt. Case in point, nos released CIA documents showing LHO
was an operative. That one piece alone is HUGE! Add to that facts the Milteer recording 4 days before the assassination describing exactly how it was going to go down, THEN his later statements "See you thought I was joking when I told you he's be taken out with a high powered rifle..". However since there are HUNDREDS of similar provable facts as weighty as these, a child could see there's some problems with the Lone Nut theory and the Village Idiot could see the Warren Commission (Headed by
a man whom Kennedy had fired and was known to despise the man) was rigged from the get-go, "Like having the Fox investigate the Henhouse", I find it interesting the proponent and co-author of the SBT was named Specter; Specter being a synonym for SPOOK, obviously aided Hoover's agenda (along with others) since both JFK and RFK were seriously putting the heat on him AND wanted to disassemble the CIA. Many people had motive, that's why it worked. Piss off the CIA,FBI, MOB, LBJ & you're in trouble.
So ,as a journeyman ironworker, when you look at the image of 0:46 you cant speculate what made those cuts? Really? Plus how exactly are we supposed to determine the kerf of the cut without the knowledge of how long the original piece was prior to being cut? You would figure an industry professional would know that.
@thecandidate0607 Cant speculate? LOL!!! Put your money where your mouth is. I have. Length of the piece is irelevant to the kerf. These cuts are NOT the result of an ironworker with a torch, carbon arc, or plasma cutter. See part three of my docu "3Seconds..." for a more thorough explanation of cuts.
@izzysykopth Explain to me how the length of the piece is irrelevant to establishing the kerf of the cut. I dont think you have a fucking clue what your talking about so I eagerly await your response.
@thecandidate0607 What I can speculate is that jetfuel will not leave rivers of molten steel beneath the towers weeks after the 'collapses'. I can also speculate that any who advocate official accounts at this stage when so much evidence is mounting are traitors and or complicit.
I don't know about thermite but the angled column at :49 is the textbook signature of explosive demolition. If you look close you can see the notches at the top and bottom of both angles where is was drilled prior to the placing of charges and the V signature in the cuts.
BTW IZZY: These guys at the steel places...don't expect them to be benevolent about this subject...LOL... Not ONE of them were truthers. and the "super" told me "it was time to leave" when I told them the steel was from the WTC. The guy who walked me out to the parking lot told me that sometimes if a beam that size is standing up, they angle cut it like that to make it drop vertically down beside the one it was cut off of. So slides off and just drops down. He also said, "That guy was a butcher"
But some of these "idiots" have over 20 years in the steel business and most of them were supervisors, developmental techs and research people. Myself? I don't know. I'm mostly a mechanic and musician. It's not my business to know things like that. But he did tell me that using a thermal lance in an upright or vertical position would not be very smart. You would always want to be on top, never below or beside because of 3500* splatter and drip & a pro would never leave as much as what's shown.
The column you show at 1:00 have been cut by firemen and/or professional demolisher AFTER the event to clear the place and prevent from further collapses.
What I don't know is whether firemen were qualified to cut the columns, or other professionals were required to do that job. What I know is that they were cut after the attack for safety reasons - many videos and photographs show them doing it in the rubble - and self-called truthers show these cut columns as evidence of inside-job with no valid or logic explaination for that.
By the way, if you claim there were not such workers cutting columns with blowtorches in the rubble after the collapse (I saw videos of that - one at least - and many photographs) then WHAT the hell did they use to cut the columns that were still standing and threatening to fall ? Fillet knives ? Nail files ?
LOL, So you were a certified "weldor" for 20 years? Well, tell ya what...if you're not smart enough to learn how to spell "welder" after BEING one for 20 years, then I really don't have a lot of trust in your opinion.
Besides, did you even bother to WATCH the video you submitted this in response to? It totally debunks your claims. We can SEE the cleanup engineers' cuts in the columns!
Bottom line, you're a liar who is pretending to show us all the truth. You don't know squat.
Typical shill rhetoric. You dont even have a grasp of the English language let alone weld nomenclature! LOL!! A weldOR is a welding machine operatOR. Much like a machine operatOR, an heavy equipment operatOR, or a telephone operatOR.The 911 evidence is unraveling on an exponential basis and yet still traitors parrot the official lies. You lack the deductive reasoning skills bestowed upon a second grader, so sit down while those of us who have not abandoned our powers of observation expose lies.
No thanks...I'm not going to waste time and money on acquiring a steel box column + tools to make a video for a reward we both know doesn't exist. Your offer means nothing if there is no avenue to collect. Is it possible to do a cartwheel blindfolded with a 9" kielbasa shoved up your ass? My reward is 10 Trillion dollars if you can prove it!
Im sure you'd love to find some jackass whod take up your bogus offer but why not defend principles of your argument I addressed in previous post.
Video states its impossible for oxides to be left on the outside of a box column. That cut was caused by either a oxy-cylinder or thermal lance rather than some welding torch. With a lance, oxygen is piped through a tube packed with iron rods; creating a molten iron oxide FUEL to cut through the steel - obviously leaving residue. With a pure oxygen cylinder torche, the O2 blast chemically reacts with FE in steel alloy to create FE-O...rapid oxidation creates slag in direction of kerf angle.
As a direct result of government myths about 9/11, this country has engaged itself in a global war on terror. It has launched unprovoked, illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional wars of aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq, causing the deaths of over 5,000 young Americans and probably a million Iraqis and Afghans. It has imposed on us the misnamed Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and Presidential directives 20 and 51, which give the president dictatorial powers.
Found this 10 minute video of thermite welding of RR tracks-very interesting.
Glad ur video cleared that up for me cause i always asked were those box columns cut before or after 911.U answered my questions.I knew an ironworker who worked at ground zero for 12 hours a day with no pay.Hope he's still alive.
Just because izzysykopth uses big words doesn't mean to say he and he alone knows the truth, he talks the talk but maybe just maybe he walks the walk.
The signatures found in the dust where Iron-Rich Microspherules containing Iron, aluminum, and manganese. The EPA also found these Iron-Rich microspherules, there response was ''we have no idea where they came from''...unignited thermite residue was also found in the dust... so if your argument is that thermite (thermate) can not be used as a cutter charge in a controlled demolition then you've lost this argument a long time ago...I strongly recommend that you google.. 911 Blueprint For Truth
Manganese: used in the structural steel, paint, batteries and ceramics.
Aluminium: Used in electronic devices and the planes that hit the buildings.
The two main byproducts os thermate are aluminium oxide (41%) and barium nitrate (29%). Both are unique to thermate and would have no reason for being found at the WTC except through the use of thermate
Neither the USGS, EPA nor Stephen Jones himself report finding any traces of either
The majority of scientists who are not on goverment contracts (popular mechanics) agree that the fires in all three buildings weren't sufficiently hot enough to melt the structural steel. Direct evidence that they were brought down by high temperture explosives such as thermite, are the pools of MOLTEN METAL found in the basements of all three buildings. (Did jet fuel kerosene create does as well? lol), as you may know thermite produces molten iron as an end product...
what else produced these pools of molten metal?? I hope that we can agree that it certainly wasnt jet fuel.
Google = 911 Blueprint For Truth...Scientific and forensic evidence that the world trade centre buildings where brought down with thermate explosives..
Hey izzy. TheFifthApes totally owned you in his video response to this video. You either need to make good your reward, or take down this dumb video & close your account in shame!
Sorry izzy, you lost all credibility on this one. You failed. Accept defeat & hand over the cash to TheFifthApes. He has proved beyond ALL reasonable doubt the method of cutting the box columns you show in this video. If you can't pay up, take down this garbage filled video & close your account.
You really are that stupid arent you? I have yet to see a vid that addresses the requirements completely. But thx for posting comments. You show the newcomers to the movement the typical tactics utilyzed by the shills. Funny if its such garbage then why am I being subject to these personal attacks?
Of course not. I might as well ask Kent Hovind for $1,000,000 for presenting evidence of evolution, but it's fun to call these nutters on their bovine excrament all the same.
W0bble3r....explain the thermite found in the dust...
Google = 911 Blueprint For Truth...Scientific and forensic evidence that the world trade centre buildings where brought down with thermate explosives..
zakabog - 1. your example vid is put out by a major infiltrator/disinfo guy.
2. It does not SHOW anything. And don't quote the shot at 0:48 to me, because again, it does not SHOW anything but a gigantic yellow fart coming out of the guy's bum.
3. Why hasn't inflitrator RKOwens4, the poster of that vid stepped forward to claim the prize?
Because he knows his vid is a fraud, full of subliminal suggestion. All potatoes and no meat.
Thx for watching. Small taste of my docu coming in July. Also see my Gary Aldrich vid. Comment and share. I think its a good way to expose all the traitors.
Sorry, the BGM was just something to keep it from being silent. Suspicious? The 911 evidence is so thick you could walk across the Hudson River on it.
If you liked this video and are interested in learning alot more then please check out my channel, there is lots of full videos on there as well as videos in parts right now and im adding more and more all the time. We need to stick together as youtube continues to shut down these channels and videos, so please subscribe or add me as a friend... THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO TAKES THE TIME TO CHECK OUT MY CHANNEL!
Every piece of testimony counts. Yours is very effective. As a Radiation Protection technologist who worked alongside thousands of Iron workers in nuclear power plants, I find your testimony very enlightening. Very well done.
Thx for the support. By July I hope to finish a full length docu/evidence compilation. It will be a collaboration of expert witnesses and their views re: the 911 evidence, the media lies/obfuscation, failures of govt officials to perform their sworn duties etc. "Three Seconds To Impact"
"Can't find any example of thermite ever cutting vertical STEEL columns?"
You can safely bet that Stevie Jones & his faithful companions have tried every way they can think of to pull this off ... and failed, obviously, since it hasn't appeared anywhere as more "proof."
C'mon, Twoofers ... grow a pair and show us thermite cutting a hunk of structural steel, vertical. The shit is cheap, so you can experiment again and again cheaply.
You claim to be an actual ironworker, but cannot reconcize cuts by an oxy-acetylene torch. The picture quality is bad, but you can see the torch marks on that beam. Ffs.
"The picture quality is bad, but you can see the torch marks on that beam"
Yet there's always some boob on here claiming that it's a "thermite cut," to avoid the embarrassing fact that there was no loud explosive noise heard for miles around.
But they can't find an example of thermite used for demo, or even someone who has the nerve to attempt cutting vertical steel with thermite.
One might almost feel sorry for them, painting themselves into impossible corners.
Cant recognize a torch cut? LOL!!! Read the text traitor. There is no way the oxides can be left on the outside of a tube column unless the cuts were made from the inside. Since these are box columns this is an impossibility.
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You, sir, are a fraud and a liar. You impress NO ONE but YouTubers, and even then, your precious movement is dying. When you and Steven Jones are ready to challenge the government, bring forth your evidence. Until then, KEEPING MAKING YOU TUBE VIDEOS LOL!
I'm glad you actual acknowledge that you haven't used thermite for cutting. And the video segment you show is NOT thermite being strapped to the column, but it is regular conventional explosives.
"thermite... leaves tons of messy crap everywhere"
We used a couple of thermite grenades on a piece of steel plate, so it would be easier to load onto a truck. Made a hell of a sloppy mess, left melted steel dripping everywhere, but we ran out of grenades and still couldn't get it into two smaller pieces to carry.
Nasty-ass shit. I'd like to see someone cut steel with it. Bring your lunch, and neatness better not count.
Loud noises only heard inside the building are irrelevant. Falling floors, exploding hi-voltage transformers, propane & LPG tanks in snack bars & office kitchens, O2 & NO2 tanks in medical-dental offices, O2 & acetylene tanks in maintenance areas -- lots of scary things go boom in a large commercial bldg fire. Ask any fireman.
Show us a loud boom, heard all the way to New Jersey, or it ain't a CD.
|Propane? Acetylene? LOL! Not in a Class A building. I've heard this bull of which you speak. The fire that was so intense that victims were standing in the alleged impact holes!!!
Is not evidence that brings the linear brains to realize the true. If you want to expose 911 as an inside job, you have to be in the same power position as the ones who committed the scam.
You must understand that linear thinkers are helpless in the hands of a leader. But this society wouldn't work if everyone was a free thinker, the linear thinkers have great memory and calculation skills, but they can never realize things outside context.
Ramiromasters 4 weeks ago
there is termite, and then you have Super Termite used by an elite top secret demolition group that do not , I repeat do not use conventional methods in building demolition !
spellground 4 weeks ago
FINALLY !! i have been waiting for a IRONWORKER to say this!! Keep up the good work !!! VERITATEM COGNOSCERE !
774stefan 1 month ago
especially in propane will effect the ratios of oxy to fuel to obtain a smooth cut you have to know heat!Jet fuel don't burn much hotter than kerosene!My whole point is that heat has to be focused on a single point than oxy applied thus cutting the metal,jet fuel does not burn hot enought to heat barjoists to red hot so as the weight of the deck collapses it as was tried to be explained by the history channel yrs ago We are at least 50 years behind hidden technologies that only a few know about
Ancientmirrors1 1 month ago
@Ancientmirrors1 Yes there were some absurd shill suggestions that all the elements of thermite were present between the building and the a/c as if they were some how magically mixed to exact ratios necessary and focused at the right points. LOL!
izzysykopth 1 month ago
@izzysykopth Did you check out the video response to this? After all there is $10,000 riding on it. I didnt see any torch (as official trolls have claimed) and the oxides are STILL on the far side of the cut. I think we should find some ironworkers here on YT and get them to view the vids and comment. Some one here offered to double the reward!
izzysykopth 1 month ago
LOL I'm an ex Ironworker Holy Christ I just got a message from ,I guess he's a mechanic probably do't know half as much about cars ,trucks hell anything with an engine in it as do I,Anyway I know the kind of heat required to melt steel put it this way you need heat to oxidize steel there is a ratio of fuel to air to cut metal,oxy in a cylinder is 20% oxygen 8o% nitrogen, for just the purposes of heating steel with a rose bud you need to change the ratio of acetylene to oxy tip size
Ancientmirrors1 1 month ago
Is not evidence that brings the linear brains to realize the true. If you want to expose 911 as an inside job, you have to be in the same power position as the ones who committed the scam.
You must understand that linear thinkers are helpless in the hands of a leader. But this society wouldn't work if everyone was a free thinker, the linear thinkers have great memory and calculation skills, but they can never realize things outside context.
Ramiromasters 4 weeks ago
there is termite, and then you have Super Termite used by an elite top secret demolition group that do not , I repeat do not use conventional methods in building demolition !
spellground 4 weeks ago
FINALLY !! i have been waiting for a IRONWORKER to say this!! Keep up the good work !!! VERITATEM COGNOSCERE !
774stefan 1 month ago
especially in propane will effect the ratios of oxy to fuel to obtain a smooth cut you have to know heat!Jet fuel don't burn much hotter than kerosene!My whole point is that heat has to be focused on a single point than oxy applied thus cutting the metal,jet fuel does not burn hot enought to heat barjoists to red hot so as the weight of the deck collapses it as was tried to be explained by the history channel yrs ago We are at least 50 years behind hidden technologies that only a few know about
Ancientmirrors1 1 month ago
@Ancientmirrors1 Yes there were some absurd shill suggestions that all the elements of thermite were present between the building and the a/c as if they were some how magically mixed to exact ratios necessary and focused at the right points. LOL!
izzysykopth 1 month ago
@izzysykopth Did you check out the video response to this? After all there is $10,000 riding on it. I didnt see any torch (as official trolls have claimed) and the oxides are STILL on the far side of the cut. I think we should find some ironworkers here on YT and get them to view the vids and comment. Some one here offered to double the reward!
izzysykopth 1 month ago
LOL I'm an ex Ironworker Holy Christ I just got a message from ,I guess he's a mechanic probably do't know half as much about cars ,trucks hell anything with an engine in it as do I,Anyway I know the kind of heat required to melt steel put it this way you need heat to oxidize steel there is a ratio of fuel to air to cut metal,oxy in a cylinder is 20% oxygen 8o% nitrogen, for just the purposes of heating steel with a rose bud you need to change the ratio of acetylene to oxy tip size
Ancientmirrors1 1 month ago
It's not done by a torch. It's done by a thermic lance. Cuts through multiple feet of steel! That's slag on the side of the column. Not oxide!
eline65 4 months ago
@eline65 Wrong. Slag is what remains of flux after a weld is completed. Refractory oxides are whats left of the base material after a class 'd' cut or burn.
izzysykopth 4 months ago
@izzysykopth Oh sorry about the lack of technicalities. So slag is no longer a slang term among metal workers for the metal that melts away after a torch?
eline65 4 months ago
@eline65 No worries. Very common among ironworkers etc to call the oxides slag. Its not really slang but a mislabel. The only reason I am more specific here is the technical aspects of this challenge.
izzysykopth 4 months ago
@izzysykopth Oh sorry about the lack of technicalities. So slag is no longer a slang term among metal workers for the metal that melts away after a torch?
eline65 4 months ago
@eline65 No worries. Very common among ironworkers etc to call the oxides slag. Its not really slang but a mislabel. The only reason I am more specific here is the technical aspects of this challenge.
izzysykopth 4 months ago
Your argument is an argument from authority "I'm an iron worker I know what I am talking about"
Sorry, but that description will either eventually bite you in the butt or it already has.
danschaoticmind 6 months ago
@danschaoticmind Does a cabinet maker know the difference between maple, oak and poplar at a glance? Does a loan officer know by skimming over an app if the applicant will qualify? Can a mechanic often tell what is wrong with a car just by listening? This video has been up over 2 and a half years. My butt is still in one piece. Take the challenge. Read the comment board. ANYONE that does this work will tell you the same thing. Its both comical and insulting to suggest jet fuel is the culprit.
izzysykopth 6 months ago
@izzysykopth That doesn't change a thing. Your assertion is still an argument from authority. An argument from authority is useless in a logical debate. I'm actually putting off on watching the entirety of your video due to time constraints getting some Geology work done on top of regular work and of course shuttle coverage. Don't worry, We will get into an actual discussion concerning the merits of your argument in due time.
But please, dispense with the logical fallacies KKTHX.
danschaoticmind 6 months ago
@danschaoticmind And your point is?
Moreofthesamez 4 months ago
@Moreofthesamez That arguments from authority carry little weight. What does carry the most weight is a body of evidence leading to a logical conclusion (Stress studies, ballistics investigations done independently etc) not someone saying "I'm an iron worker X is impossible".
danschaoticmind 4 months ago
@danschaoticmind Cite an independent investigation of 911
Moreofthesamez 4 months ago
@Moreofthesamez Why? That is a nice red herring logical fallacy by the way. The point I made was that an argument containing clear lines of evidence have far more bearing than the regurgitated stuff that is stated. You should, perhaps, brush up on your reading comprehension skills. Because I am not debating evidence at all right now. I am telling you, that in order to have a case you have to have evidence. Arguments from authority are logical fallacies and using them makes an argument fall apart
danschaoticmind 4 months ago
@danschaoticmind What you should do is learn about legal procedure and what is considered evidence. Expert testimony is admissible as evidence. As a Journey Ironworker and Cert Weldor since 88 my testimony is admissible and is contained in this video. Photographs ARE evidence. Any questions?
izzysykopth 4 months ago
@izzysykopth Yeah, why do you think that a legal procedure is the only procedure worth noting? did it not occur to you that your expert testimony could easily be overturned by scientific evidence? Thus, you have to make a scientific case well before you can make a legal case. Keep that in mind.
danschaoticmind 4 months ago
@danschaoticmind Regardless of what scientific evidence they present I would simply demonstrate the use of a torch and prove the cuts would leave the oxides on the FAR SIDE of the cut. The physical IMPOSSIBILITY of the o'fish'ial story would be exposed to any jury and it would be game over.
izzysykopth 4 months ago
@izzysykopth And yet you keep forgetting that the presence of such oxides still are consistant with the present theory. Which is precisely why 9/11 truth has been consigned to wingnut status. In short: you would still need to prove through scientific means that such could only happen in the conditions you state. This actually applies to both scientific and legal cases. This is known as the burden of proof which lies with you.
danschaoticmind 4 months ago
@danschaoticmind No they are not consistent with the current lies which seem to change as each previous lie is proven to be beyond the confines of reality. It has been proven scientifically, in fact all the elements are indeed present including malice aforethought, means motive and opportunity, M.O. prior acts, personal, political and financial gain, habeas corpus and guilty demeanor. The historical precedents alone defy the laws of probability. Only advocates of the lies are perps and morons.
izzysykopth 4 months ago
yeah I'm glad i found your response off of "motorartist" video. That guy is a immature prick -.-. Anyway, Thanks for the video man
MugenCrisis 8 months ago
@MugenCrisis You must be talking about Owens. Thx for taking the time to watch. Regards, izzy
izzysykopth 8 months ago
@w0bbl3r No only you and your troll buddies agree. Look at the comments from people that do this for a living. Like me. Some have even offered another $10,000. LOL!!!! Least you smartened up enough to stay in the shallow end!!! LMAO!!!
izzysykopth 8 months ago
I absolutely agree. There is no way a cutting torch, cut that column
bambam9969 11 months ago
@bambam9969 Not a torch. A thermic lance! I can't post a link here, so you'll have to decipher this. I found a pic at motorsportsartist com slash nogod slash wp-content slash uploads slash 2007 slash 05 slash cut dot jpg
eline65 4 months ago
@eline65 Oxides are still LEFT ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE CUT!
izzysykopth 4 months ago
this iron worker agrees...
will add another 10 k reward
for proof of duplication
of these slag patterns ....
looks like thermite demolition ..
chena3 1 year ago 4
The problem with this "evidence" of a cut column is that there is no time stamp that says it was in that condition prior to the clean up crew. There is much better evidence to support controlled demolition in the WTC on 9/11, and 7 WTC's collapse is the best place to start.
uncledevo 1 year ago
@uncledevo Except there are photos of the cuts where the firefighters can be seen still in their full response gear and long BEFORE the clean up crews were allowed access. Good points though. The evidence from every corner is so far off the charts now that any who advocate the official lies should be scrutinized as accessories after the fact. THX for watching and the comments.
izzysykopth 1 year ago 4
@izzysykopth the possibility of thermite being used is plausible maybe just not the type we are thinking of,like i said there is a type they can paint on that is very volitile,maybe even a advanced type of det chord was used,there was alot of activity before this happen in the building,people suposedly painting,hmmmm!!! but i will agree i dont think it was cut with a torch,how would they have done it unnoticed,the time frame would have taken weeks to use torches,just my opinion!!!
METALLICA6547 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 Just scroll thru the comments and you will see any one with professional experience agrees. Whos full of shit? You dont even know what a kerf is. LOL!!! Its the void left by the cutting jet itself. Does not matter if you are cutting off a foot or 100 feet. Kerf remains the same.
izzysykopth 1 year ago
@izzysykopth Kerf is the width of the path that a cutting tool makes you idiot. Not the void left by a cutting jet. The void left by a cutting jet is the cut itself. And No I am not saying that the kerf somehow changes the overall length of the piece as you are stating. Let me just give you a little math problem a 10 foot piece gets cut in half the tool has a 1/2 inch kerf. What are the length of the two pieces after the cut is made?
thecandidate0607 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 And the jet is? A cutting tool. I never suggested the kerf changes the length. What I am stating is it does not matter what length is cut off. Kerf is kerf period.
izzysykopth 1 year ago
@izzysykopth You invoked the term jet, I assumed you were referring to a waterjet cutting tool. You claim in the video is that thermite was used to cut that 16" x 24" box column with 1-1/8" thick walls simply because a cutting torch or thermic lance wouldnt have left so much slag on the outside of the column. Are you aware that thermite doesnt cut horizontally? And do you know how much thermite is required to make that cut?
thecandidate0607 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 I NEVER claim thermite cut the steel. Nor do I suggest I am aware of the amounts required. Thermite will cut horizontally once a lateral load is applied. Gravity is all that will prevent a horizontal cut. Your alligator mouth is outracing your hummingbird mind. Why are you arguing outside the facts in the presentation?
izzysykopth 1 year ago
@izzysykopth So what do you think cut that column exactly since it wasnt thermite and a explosive charge wouldnt have left slag on the column. But your comment above stated you believe "incinderies" cut the column. So what lateral force can be used to make thermite cut horizontally? Could the thermite been placed in an apparatus that controlled the heat flow of the thermite to cut horizontally?
thecandidate0607 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 Check out part three of Three Seconds to Impact for more detail. If the incinderies were applied at an angle once the weight of the building was applied their would be a lateral as well as gravitational or vertical load.
izzysykopth 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 And the void left by a cutting jet is... The width of the path of a cutting tool!!!! Can you engage in anything other than doublespeak?
izzysykopth 6 months ago
Now that would depend on where the cut was laid out now wouldnt it? If you want to play stupid puzzle games why dont you ask what the COMBINED length of the two pieces are and then the layout location becomes irrelevant doesnt it?
izzysykopth 6 months ago
@izzysykopth Really?!?! 9 months and all you can manage to assemble is the same retarded logic you were spouting 9 months ago. Come back when you have learned anything on the topic.
spectator1107 6 months ago
@spectator1107 The only retarded logic is your assumption it took me 9 mos to respond when it only took seconds. I have other things to do than entertain your neanderthal mind. Come back when you grow up and can even understand welding and cutting nomenclature or go pitch it to all ZERO of your subs. You've grown quite an audience to your way of thinking! LMAO!!! HMMM? Joined in 2011 huh? With 9 month old comments? More like revived an abandoned troll account? Explain that.
izzysykopth 6 months ago
@izzysykopth You're right I work for the government and my job is to post misinformation so nobody knows what really happened. You keep plugging away trooper, one day maybe you might get another brain cell that you can rub the other one against and come up with something original. I ditched my old account when I got a new email address. And since your name pops up on NUMEROUS 9-11 videos, you tell me who the troll is.
spectator1107 6 months ago
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North Tower: How do 15 stories of a building crush 95 stories below them in 100% opposition to Newton's Third Law?
Newton's Third Law in action, 50% of the building destroys the other 50%: watch?v=syzKBBB_THE
Moreofthesamez 4 months ago
@izzysykopth What I am saying is that its hard to determine the kerf of the cut without knowing the overall length of the piece. Thats pretty simple the overall length of the original piece minus the lengths of the two intact pieces gives you the kerf of the cut. So if I have two pieces of steel that are 4'-11-7/8" and I know that the original piece was 10' long I know that the cutting tool had a 1/4" kerf. This isnt rocket science try to keep up.
thecandidate0607 1 year ago
Thermite makes a white smoke, any fuel made from oil makes a black smoke.
Except where the WTC is concerned.
TheBelldiver 1 year ago
Showing workers cutting ANYTHING doesn't prove other columns weren't cut by thermite/thermate. If you had a few dozen little columns at the base of the collapsed building that were proof of CD, the first thing you're going to do is a) begin cutting to get rid of evidence, b) cut to pose for the camera so everybody can say "yeah, they were cut after..."
All meaningless, therefore prove this can be done, plain and simple.
N1k1mon 1 year ago
You know what, everybody shut the fuck up, debunk this mans claims or admit you're full of shit. No point in using all you're deflunker arguments and twisted logic. Put up or shut up, take the god damned challenge.
If it can be done, DO IT. These guys are so big on wanting everything scientific yet they bring arguments to a physical challenge.
N1k1mon 1 year ago 16
@N1k1mon Thanks for the support. The reward and the video still stand almost three years later.
izzysykopth 4 months ago
@izzysykopth I was a little wroth, wasn't I? =) Just so very tired of these creeps getting away with everything and anything they want to, basically since JFK, all because they know how to play the public. They know the public worships authority and has a tendency to accept anything as long as it has an official stamp on it, no matter how ridiculous and impossible the claims are. Have you seen the "PentaCon" website or their new video?
N1k1mon 4 months ago
@N1k1mon Havent seen their new vid. There is SOOOOO MUCH evidence it defies any powers of observation or common sense for these trolls to even claim they are sincere supporters of the lies anymore. If they had to face their fellow Americans with such absurd arguments they would be conspicuously absent I would bet.
izzysykopth 4 months ago
@izzysykopth Yup. It's easy to forget when standing up for the side which has the gov't and their respectives agencies by their side, that things are going to "look" a certain way, e.g. OF COURSE when framing Oswald they did everything in their power to make him look guilty, thats the whole flippin' concept of creating a pAtsy. Much different than simply grabbing a stranger off the street and saying "He did it". Our best intell. agencies were about this business for years. Instead of being scien
N1k1mon 4 months ago
-tific about these cases and assuming that either side could be lying and trying to determine just what capabilities these people had for framing Oswald,their motives, their connections and realizing this is their Modus Operandi, they assume that these people are fools, incapable of pulling off something like this, ergo LHO must be truly guilty. Any ONE of dozens of facts in the case should be enough to cause serious suspicion yet it doesnt. Case in point, nos released CIA documents showing LHO
N1k1mon 4 months ago
was an operative. That one piece alone is HUGE! Add to that facts the Milteer recording 4 days before the assassination describing exactly how it was going to go down, THEN his later statements "See you thought I was joking when I told you he's be taken out with a high powered rifle..". However since there are HUNDREDS of similar provable facts as weighty as these, a child could see there's some problems with the Lone Nut theory and the Village Idiot could see the Warren Commission (Headed by
N1k1mon 4 months ago
a man whom Kennedy had fired and was known to despise the man) was rigged from the get-go, "Like having the Fox investigate the Henhouse", I find it interesting the proponent and co-author of the SBT was named Specter; Specter being a synonym for SPOOK, obviously aided Hoover's agenda (along with others) since both JFK and RFK were seriously putting the heat on him AND wanted to disassemble the CIA. Many people had motive, that's why it worked. Piss off the CIA,FBI, MOB, LBJ & you're in trouble.
N1k1mon 4 months ago
-tific about these cases and assuming that either side could be lying and trying to determine just what capabilities these people had for framing Oswald,their motives, their connections and realizing this is their Modus Operandi, they assume that these people are fools, incapable of pulling off something like this, ergo LHO must be truly guilty. Any ONE of dozens of facts in the case should be enough to cause serious suspicion yet it doesnt. Case in point, nos released CIA documents showing LHO
N1k1mon 4 months ago
was an operative. That one piece alone is HUGE! Add to that facts the Milteer recording 4 days before the assassination describing exactly how it was going to go down, THEN his later statements "See you thought I was joking when I told you he's be taken out with a high powered rifle..". However since there are HUNDREDS of similar provable facts as weighty as these, a child could see there's some problems with the Lone Nut theory and the Village Idiot could see the Warren Commission (Headed by
N1k1mon 4 months ago
a man whom Kennedy had fired and was known to despise the man) was rigged from the get-go, "Like having the Fox investigate the Henhouse", I find it interesting the proponent and co-author of the SBT was named Specter; Specter being a synonym for SPOOK, obviously aided Hoover's agenda (along with others) since both JFK and RFK were seriously putting the heat on him AND wanted to disassemble the CIA. Many people had motive, that's why it worked. Piss off the CIA,FBI, MOB, LBJ & you're in trouble.
N1k1mon 4 months ago
thanks for the great video!
Fliegenkarotte 1 year ago 7
So ,as a journeyman ironworker, when you look at the image of 0:46 you cant speculate what made those cuts? Really? Plus how exactly are we supposed to determine the kerf of the cut without the knowledge of how long the original piece was prior to being cut? You would figure an industry professional would know that.
thecandidate0607 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 Cant speculate? LOL!!! Put your money where your mouth is. I have. Length of the piece is irelevant to the kerf. These cuts are NOT the result of an ironworker with a torch, carbon arc, or plasma cutter. See part three of my docu "3Seconds..." for a more thorough explanation of cuts.
izzysykopth 1 year ago
@izzysykopth Explain to me how the length of the piece is irrelevant to establishing the kerf of the cut. I dont think you have a fucking clue what your talking about so I eagerly await your response.
thecandidate0607 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 What I can speculate is that jetfuel will not leave rivers of molten steel beneath the towers weeks after the 'collapses'. I can also speculate that any who advocate official accounts at this stage when so much evidence is mounting are traitors and or complicit.
izzysykopth 1 year ago
@izzysykopth I am not asking you to speculate about what jetfuel can do. I am asking you to take a guess at what you think cut that column.
thecandidate0607 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 incinderies
izzysykopth 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607 follow me to part three of Three Seconds to Impact
izzysykopth 1 year ago
I don't know about thermite but the angled column at :49 is the textbook signature of explosive demolition. If you look close you can see the notches at the top and bottom of both angles where is was drilled prior to the placing of charges and the V signature in the cuts.
epistte 1 year ago
BTW IZZY: These guys at the steel places...don't expect them to be benevolent about this subject...LOL... Not ONE of them were truthers. and the "super" told me "it was time to leave" when I told them the steel was from the WTC. The guy who walked me out to the parking lot told me that sometimes if a beam that size is standing up, they angle cut it like that to make it drop vertically down beside the one it was cut off of. So slides off and just drops down. He also said, "That guy was a butcher"
amzuel420 2 years ago
But some of these "idiots" have over 20 years in the steel business and most of them were supervisors, developmental techs and research people. Myself? I don't know. I'm mostly a mechanic and musician. It's not my business to know things like that. But he did tell me that using a thermal lance in an upright or vertical position would not be very smart. You would always want to be on top, never below or beside because of 3500* splatter and drip & a pro would never leave as much as what's shown.
amzuel420 2 years ago
The column you show at 1:00 have been cut by firemen and/or professional demolisher AFTER the event to clear the place and prevent from further collapses.
synsei1 2 years ago
And/or implies that you cant say with certainty who cut the columns.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
What I don't know is whether firemen were qualified to cut the columns, or other professionals were required to do that job. What I know is that they were cut after the attack for safety reasons - many videos and photographs show them doing it in the rubble - and self-called truthers show these cut columns as evidence of inside-job with no valid or logic explaination for that.
synsei1 2 years ago
By the way, if you claim there were not such workers cutting columns with blowtorches in the rubble after the collapse (I saw videos of that - one at least - and many photographs) then WHAT the hell did they use to cut the columns that were still standing and threatening to fall ? Fillet knives ? Nail files ?
synsei1 2 years ago
LOL, So you were a certified "weldor" for 20 years? Well, tell ya what...if you're not smart enough to learn how to spell "welder" after BEING one for 20 years, then I really don't have a lot of trust in your opinion.
Besides, did you even bother to WATCH the video you submitted this in response to? It totally debunks your claims. We can SEE the cleanup engineers' cuts in the columns!
Bottom line, you're a liar who is pretending to show us all the truth. You don't know squat.
Astrobrant2 2 years ago
Typical shill rhetoric. You dont even have a grasp of the English language let alone weld nomenclature! LOL!! A weldOR is a welding machine operatOR. Much like a machine operatOR, an heavy equipment operatOR, or a telephone operatOR.The 911 evidence is unraveling on an exponential basis and yet still traitors parrot the official lies. You lack the deductive reasoning skills bestowed upon a second grader, so sit down while those of us who have not abandoned our powers of observation expose lies.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
Any ironworker/welder knows you do not cut box beams with a cutting torch.
Why?
Because of the thickness of the material per side.
Your challenge is fraught with inaccuracies and as a welder you should know this or is it just a truther throwing out another bullshit theory.
Bluetooht 2 years ago
funny you say that because ive been cutting box columns for twenty years
izzysykopth 2 years ago
Not in a demo.
If you're cutting them then it is during construction, I was refering to cutting them during a demo where a time line is adhered to.
The quicker it's done the less it costs to do the demo.
Bluetooht 2 years ago
19 flunkies that couldnt fly a Cessna defeated airline and airport security the FBI CIA NSA etc etc etc and you say im ignorant? LOL!!!
izzysykopth 2 years ago
read the text and meet the requirements if you think the reward can be acheived
izzysykopth 2 years ago
No thanks...I'm not going to waste time and money on acquiring a steel box column + tools to make a video for a reward we both know doesn't exist. Your offer means nothing if there is no avenue to collect. Is it possible to do a cartwheel blindfolded with a 9" kielbasa shoved up your ass? My reward is 10 Trillion dollars if you can prove it!
Im sure you'd love to find some jackass whod take up your bogus offer but why not defend principles of your argument I addressed in previous post.
CRSWinston 2 years ago
Video states its impossible for oxides to be left on the outside of a box column. That cut was caused by either a oxy-cylinder or thermal lance rather than some welding torch. With a lance, oxygen is piped through a tube packed with iron rods; creating a molten iron oxide FUEL to cut through the steel - obviously leaving residue. With a pure oxygen cylinder torche, the O2 blast chemically reacts with FE in steel alloy to create FE-O...rapid oxidation creates slag in direction of kerf angle.
CRSWinston 2 years ago
either way the oxides are left on the FAR side of the cut
izzysykopth 2 years ago
Please send me a message because i am confused. Are you saying that the WTC was done by someone other than al quaeda? Please send me a message.
johnnydamon3 2 years ago
hey johnny the 911 evidence is abundant overwhelming that rogue elements within the U.S. and Mossad intel services are behind the attacks
izzysykopth 2 years ago
As a direct result of government myths about 9/11, this country has engaged itself in a global war on terror. It has launched unprovoked, illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional wars of aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq, causing the deaths of over 5,000 young Americans and probably a million Iraqis and Afghans. It has imposed on us the misnamed Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and Presidential directives 20 and 51, which give the president dictatorial powers.
uncledevo 2 years ago
I think izzysykopth you got to stand behind your word and pay up the 10 grand to TheFifthApes. BE A MAN!
slonamu 2 years ago
Just as soon as he meets the requirements.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
watch?v=Wi6q7fKgqkE
Found this 10 minute video of thermite welding of RR tracks-very interesting.
Glad ur video cleared that up for me cause i always asked were those box columns cut before or after 911.U answered my questions.I knew an ironworker who worked at ground zero for 12 hours a day with no pay.Hope he's still alive.
ed11561 2 years ago
Soon as he meets the requirements.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
Just because izzysykopth uses big words doesn't mean to say he and he alone knows the truth, he talks the talk but maybe just maybe he walks the walk.
pimple22 2 years ago
Yo Izzy,
The place is FILLED with fucking lying POS Shills. Infestation of VERMIN.
Fucktards all !!
Hate these fucking NWO Douchebags. I wonder how they explain what the FEMA videographer saw?
Fuckwads pushing the Company line - deserve to be treated as the TRAITORS and DUMBFUCKS that they are.
.
SandmanComes 2 years ago
The signatures found in the dust where Iron-Rich Microspherules containing Iron, aluminum, and manganese. The EPA also found these Iron-Rich microspherules, there response was ''we have no idea where they came from''...unignited thermite residue was also found in the dust... so if your argument is that thermite (thermate) can not be used as a cutter charge in a controlled demolition then you've lost this argument a long time ago...I strongly recommend that you google.. 911 Blueprint For Truth
SammieIdris 2 years ago
Iron: Used in paint and electronic devices.
Manganese: used in the structural steel, paint, batteries and ceramics.
Aluminium: Used in electronic devices and the planes that hit the buildings.
The two main byproducts os thermate are aluminium oxide (41%) and barium nitrate (29%). Both are unique to thermate and would have no reason for being found at the WTC except through the use of thermate
Neither the USGS, EPA nor Stephen Jones himself report finding any traces of either
Try again
TheFifthApes 2 years ago
The majority of scientists who are not on goverment contracts (popular mechanics) agree that the fires in all three buildings weren't sufficiently hot enough to melt the structural steel. Direct evidence that they were brought down by high temperture explosives such as thermite, are the pools of MOLTEN METAL found in the basements of all three buildings. (Did jet fuel kerosene create does as well? lol), as you may know thermite produces molten iron as an end product...
SammieIdris 2 years ago
what else produced these pools of molten metal?? I hope that we can agree that it certainly wasnt jet fuel.
Google = 911 Blueprint For Truth...Scientific and forensic evidence that the world trade centre buildings where brought down with thermate explosives..
SammieIdris 2 years ago
That is not video. It is a slideshow. Fails miserably.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
Izzy's just a classic cowardly sheeple who can't admit he's wrong.
MrRandomGuy86 2 years ago
LOL!!! You lose debate after debate. This one is no exception. The requirements have not been met. I owe apes nothing.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
€7,113
KimmoKuopio 2 years ago
Hey izzy. TheFifthApes totally owned you in his video response to this video. You either need to make good your reward, or take down this dumb video & close your account in shame!
terrymanning1 2 years ago
Apparently you havent read the description. No one has posted whats required.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
I agree with w0bbl3r.
Sorry izzy, you lost all credibility on this one. You failed. Accept defeat & hand over the cash to TheFifthApes. He has proved beyond ALL reasonable doubt the method of cutting the box columns you show in this video. If you can't pay up, take down this garbage filled video & close your account.
terrymanning1 2 years ago
You really are that stupid arent you? I have yet to see a vid that addresses the requirements completely. But thx for posting comments. You show the newcomers to the movement the typical tactics utilyzed by the shills. Funny if its such garbage then why am I being subject to these personal attacks?
izzysykopth 2 years ago
you know you arent going to get your money, right?
even the fact that thermite cant be used for CD doesnt deter these scum
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
Of course not. I might as well ask Kent Hovind for $1,000,000 for presenting evidence of evolution, but it's fun to call these nutters on their bovine excrament all the same.
TheFifthApes 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
/watch?v=VZv-4XwrAbk
he wants his money.
put your money where your mouth is you lying fuck
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
Name calling is the first sign of defeat. Stick to the shallow end.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
More real world use of a thermic Lance watch?v=kzlb1nTnaKM
motorartist 2 years ago
More pictures of the clean up crew cutting steel columns:
11-settembre . blogspot . com / 2007 / 02 / technical-widening-about-thermal . html
TheFifthApes 2 years ago
More evidence of the WTC clean up crew cutting steel columns:
11-settembre . blogspot . com / 2007 / 04 / real-world-tests-cut-through-steel . html
TheFifthApes 2 years ago
watch?v=LJyBuANVkQ4
$10,000 please.
TheFifthApes 2 years ago
LOL!! I didnt even see a torch!! Read the more info loser.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
watch?v=LJyBuANVkQ4
Torch at 1:50. Try watching the video next time.
TheFifthApes 2 years ago
W0bble3r....explain the thermite found in the dust...
Google = 911 Blueprint For Truth...Scientific and forensic evidence that the world trade centre buildings where brought down with thermate explosives..
SammieIdris 2 years ago
Why has no one made an honest effort to earn this reward?
izzysykopth 2 years ago
6/17 - count 1941
SandmanComes 2 years ago
this has been on 1874 for the last 5 visits
tiewebb 2 years ago
Thx Tie for the heads up on the view counts.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
1874
tiewebb 2 years ago
1874
tiewebb 2 years ago
btw lol should use some of that 10,000 to help build the site hahaha jk...
Earthlasthope 2 years ago
5 stars, thermite is like greek fire, burns unbelievable hot and fast.
Earthlasthope 2 years ago
good video, yea debunking this is impossible.
batflies 2 years ago
zakabog - 1. your example vid is put out by a major infiltrator/disinfo guy.
2. It does not SHOW anything. And don't quote the shot at 0:48 to me, because again, it does not SHOW anything but a gigantic yellow fart coming out of the guy's bum.
3. Why hasn't inflitrator RKOwens4, the poster of that vid stepped forward to claim the prize?
Because he knows his vid is a fraud, full of subliminal suggestion. All potatoes and no meat.
nameofthepen 2 years ago
In this video, the demo expert is using DETCORD. Not thermite. Thermite isn't used in demolition.
mgsfan15 2 years ago
I never claim they are thermite cuts. Read the text.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
Wow .. very shocking Izzy ... thanks for sharing this!
UnslaveMee 2 years ago
Thx for watching. Small taste of my docu coming in July. Also see my Gary Aldrich vid. Comment and share. I think its a good way to expose all the traitors.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
i would conceed that this is pretty suspicious.But the music ruined any point you were trying to make.
Aint the story dramatic enough ?
DotComSlashClick 2 years ago
Sorry, the BGM was just something to keep it from being silent. Suspicious? The 911 evidence is so thick you could walk across the Hudson River on it.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
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WakeUpPeopleToTruth 2 years ago
And they will hang.
StratusBlue 2 years ago 2
Every piece of testimony counts. Yours is very effective. As a Radiation Protection technologist who worked alongside thousands of Iron workers in nuclear power plants, I find your testimony very enlightening. Very well done.
StratusBlue 2 years ago 2
Thx for the support. By July I hope to finish a full length docu/evidence compilation. It will be a collaboration of expert witnesses and their views re: the 911 evidence, the media lies/obfuscation, failures of govt officials to perform their sworn duties etc. "Three Seconds To Impact"
izzysykopth 2 years ago
For your tempered consideration,
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has had considerable
difficulty determining a politically correct sequence of events for the unprecedented
destruction of three World Trade Center (WTC) buildings on 9/11 (Douglas 2006, Ryan
2006, Gourley 2007).
(Continued below) . . .
SandmanComes 2 years ago
Stirred up a nest of shills huh? Will br nice to see them all swing!!
izzysykopth 2 years ago
(Continued) . . . But despite a number of variations in NISTs story, it never
considered explosives or pyrotechnic materials in any of its hypotheses. This omission is
at odds with several other striking facts; first, the requirement of the national standard for
fire investigation (NFPA 921), which calls for testing related to thermite and other
pyrotechnics, and second, the extensive experience NIST investigators have with
explosive and thermite materials.
SandmanComes 2 years ago 2
To those who wish to research 9/11, it is important for those seeking the "TRUTH" about 9/11 to consider what
organizations and people had access to the technologies that were used to accomplish the
deceptive demolition of the WTC buildings. It is also important to recognize the links
between those who had access to the technologies, those who had access to the buildings,
and those who produced the clearly false official reports.
(continued)
SandmanComes 2 years ago 2
(continued)
To that end we should note that NIST had considerable connections to nano-thermites,
both before and during the WTC investigation. It is therefore inexplicable why NIST did
not consider such materials as an explanation for the fires that burned on 9/11, and long
afterward at Ground Zero. This fact would not be inexplicable, of course, if those
managing the NIST investigation knew to not look, or test, for such materials.
SandmanComes 2 years ago 2
Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues? NIST did not test for the
residue of these compounds in the steel.
NIST Responses to FAQs, August 2006
SandmanComes 2 years ago 2
As part of the Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer, NIST
partners with the Naval Surface Warfare Center at Indian Head (NSWC-IH) on
Chemical Science and Technology (FLCTT 2008). NSWC-IH is probably the
most prominent US center for nano-thermite technology (NSWC 2008). In 1999,
SandmanComes 2 years ago
(continued) . . .
Jan Puszynski, a scientist working for the DURINT program, helped NSWC-IH
design a pilot plant to produce nano-size aluminum powder. It was reported that
At that time, this was [the] only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the
United States (SDSMT 2001), however, private companies like Argonide and
Technanogy were also known to have such capabilities.
SandmanComes 2 years ago
The high surface area of the reactants within energetic sol-gels allows for the far higher
rate of energy release than is seen in macro thermite mixtures, making nano-thermites
high explosives as well as pyrotechnic materials (Tillitson et al 1999). Sol-gel nanothermites,
are often called energetic nanocomposites. . .( continued)
SandmanComes 2 years ago
(continued) . . . metastable intermolecular
composites (MICs) or superthermite (COEM 2004, Son et al 2007), and silica is often
used to create the porous, structural framework (Clapsaddle et al 2004, Zhao et al 2004).
Nano-thermites have also been made with RDX (Pivkina et al 2004), and with
thermoplastic elastomers (Diaz et al 2003). But it is important to remember that, despite
the name, nano-thermites pack a much bigger punch than typical thermite materials.
SandmanComes 2 years ago
MythBusters couldn't cut a straight line in a car roof (16-gauge steel) with a HALF TON of thermite.
When is someone going to show us a neat cut from thermite? Anywhere?
Or even just a sloppy one, done on upright steel?
pilot101st 2 years ago
watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M
I guess you should stop watching MythBusters. Idiots... Thermate has been used in underwater demolitions by the military for a long time now.
gtg309v 2 years ago
"watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M"
That's soft iron re-bar, and tiny to boot.
Can't find any example of thermite ever cutting vertical STEEL columns?
Or even some reference to a demolition pro EVER using thermite/thermate for controlled demolition?
So far, in 7 years, no truther has even come up with a video showing it's POSSIBLE.
Which puts it in this catefgory, clearly:
tinyurl (dot) com/qeu6um
HughJorgaan 2 years ago
"Can't find any example of thermite ever cutting vertical STEEL columns?"
You can safely bet that Stevie Jones & his faithful companions have tried every way they can think of to pull this off ... and failed, obviously, since it hasn't appeared anywhere as more "proof."
C'mon, Twoofers ... grow a pair and show us thermite cutting a hunk of structural steel, vertical. The shit is cheap, so you can experiment again and again cheaply.
Pack of pussies.
ReemYakrevice 2 years ago
Only pussies are those advocating the official lies of 911. Grow a pair and fight the NWO. Or you can kiss their ass all the way to the camps.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
You claim to be an actual ironworker, but cannot reconcize cuts by an oxy-acetylene torch. The picture quality is bad, but you can see the torch marks on that beam. Ffs.
idb87 2 years ago
"The picture quality is bad, but you can see the torch marks on that beam"
Yet there's always some boob on here claiming that it's a "thermite cut," to avoid the embarrassing fact that there was no loud explosive noise heard for miles around.
But they can't find an example of thermite used for demo, or even someone who has the nerve to attempt cutting vertical steel with thermite.
One might almost feel sorry for them, painting themselves into impossible corners.
Bulldog7046 2 years ago
Cant recognize a torch cut? LOL!!! Read the text traitor. There is no way the oxides can be left on the outside of a tube column unless the cuts were made from the inside. Since these are box columns this is an impossibility.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
watch?v=ySHgiUxnLC0&feature=related
You, sir, are a fraud and a liar. You impress NO ONE but YouTubers, and even then, your precious movement is dying. When you and Steven Jones are ready to challenge the government, bring forth your evidence. Until then, KEEPING MAKING YOU TUBE VIDEOS LOL!
idb87 2 years ago
It would be nice if you ever come to So. Ca. Let me know. Remember ALL TRAITORS will swing.
izzysykopth 2 years ago
Better get a move on, that 'New Investigation/REVOLUTION!' wont start itself.
idb87 2 years ago
You mean anyone who has done this?
11-settembre*blogspot*com/ 2007/ 04/ real- world- tests- cut- through- steel* html
or this
11-settembre*blogspot*com/ 2007/ 02/ technical- widening- about- thermal*html
I'm glad you actual acknowledge that you haven't used thermite for cutting. And the video segment you show is NOT thermite being strapped to the column, but it is regular conventional explosives.
trutherslie 2 years ago
"And the video segment you show is NOT thermite being strapped to the column"
I notice that he won't show us a photo of what a cut by an RDX shaped charge looks like.
Probably because it doesn't look anything like those vertical columns he shows -- which were obviously done by a demolition torch.
BlazingFerret 2 years ago
"thermite... leaves tons of messy crap everywhere"
We used a couple of thermite grenades on a piece of steel plate, so it would be easier to load onto a truck. Made a hell of a sloppy mess, left melted steel dripping everywhere, but we ran out of grenades and still couldn't get it into two smaller pieces to carry.
Nasty-ass shit. I'd like to see someone cut steel with it. Bring your lunch, and neatness better not count.
ResurrectedFish 2 years ago
No loud BANG -- no explosives.
No explosives, no controlled demolition.
Loud noises only heard inside the building are irrelevant. Falling floors, exploding hi-voltage transformers, propane & LPG tanks in snack bars & office kitchens, O2 & NO2 tanks in medical-dental offices, O2 & acetylene tanks in maintenance areas -- lots of scary things go boom in a large commercial bldg fire. Ask any fireman.
Show us a loud boom, heard all the way to New Jersey, or it ain't a CD.
61Chrysler300 2 years ago
|Propane? Acetylene? LOL! Not in a Class A building. I've heard this bull of which you speak. The fire that was so intense that victims were standing in the alleged impact holes!!!
izzysykopth 2 years ago