The Scene in the bar when Munny has the fever, the part where Eastwood is sitting shivering with his coat up around his neck was one of the best acted scenes I've ever seen and then when he cocks his shot gun at the last scene was unreal. He should have won best actor
Is it considered "not cool" to put 'The Unforgiven' on Top Western Films lists? It is hands down, the best Western ever made. It is an absolutely flawless film. It is visually stunning, engaging, and has some of the best dialogue of any film of any genre. And it doesn't suffer from some of the shortcoming of old school Westerns. The Searchers was amazing but it was boring at parts. People don't like to admit that. Same thing can be said about Liberty Valence. And the music was CHEESEY!
the whore refers to the original goal of his quest does it not. To set right a wrong done to a whore?. Or else I missed you meaning. off the track - Can you imagine a canadian version, no Guns, no shooting, "Now you be nice to each other EH?" I am so glad we can own guns and actually use them for self defense. Wuff
@Wuff4u fuck off u dick head!...this is a film!...no way tits like you can be linked to the rights and wrongs of great films like this..America is fucked up cos of stupid gun laws...easy to pull a trigger eh wimpy ass!..try fighting like a man!.....hope when the time comes you dont wimp out like the guys in this clip!..you yanky arrogant faggot!
The true point is Karma can be a bitch,,one day you are the bat, the next day your the ball, "deserve has nothing to do with.",, a phase later in the movie " we all have it comming kid."
This is one of the greatest movies ever made, Grand Tarino a very close second.
i disagree w ignorance. Money feels responsible for Neds death. He didnt want to kill anyone. He wanted to go home. He's not a typical killer. He did not kill anyone that did not shoot at him, or deserve his idea of justice. All the guys still alive cleared out. Money much preferred live and let live, and thats where he is going..home
@pound7 I disagree with that. Munny's words were the true William Munny, his threats to kill everyone a real one.
This is supported by his last words to the town, his last threat, which he almost whispers to himself. Ignoranceandwant is right, no matter who much he wanted to change, came to feel remorse of the people he killed, or no matter how long he was able to, in a way, fake being someone else, in the end, William Munny was a mean, cold, killer, a monster of a human being.
I like to think that the man with no name is actually William Munny, and this is the sequel to the dollars trilogy. Maybe if Lee Van Cleef was still alive when this was made, he would have played ned's role, but as Douglas Mortimor. It ties up the man with no name's story pretty well.
@fvgdfbdokd Not really. William Munny was avenging his friend. The Man with no Name was a bounty hunter, mercenary, and treasure hunter. Both had some reason to do what they did (saving that women in Fistful of Dollars, avenging Ned) but they're both ruthless killers that the world would see as evil.
But not only did it show that fear can disable men. but why.. The fight or flight reaction and adrenaline is of no help when involving aiming firearms. It makes you unsteady, nervous, shaking uncontrollably even. Anyone in a simple fist fight can relate to this.. Someone who is battle hardened and desensitized by confrontations/violence has the advantage. . If anyone remembers the North hollywood bank robbery of 97, the two robbers took loads of phenobarbital to address this
I dont know if I agree. It is true Munny has to back slide, but it was necessary for revenge. Plus, from the epilogue it looks like he was able to go back to his good self.
"That’s right. I’ve killed women and children. I’ve killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. And I’m here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you did to Ned." One of the best movie line ever.
Best damn scene in just about any movie, ever. It tells the truth. The movie portrays that the "tough" don't win fights. The "crazy-hard" do; no feeling. Not glorified, not awesome, no order to anything; just chaos. That's how life is. Little Bill was always wrong. When confronted by superior numbers, you just shoot and kill anything that threatens you. You don't think at all. Pure instinct.
when he told to pick up a rifle with them shells, i thought clint was creating an excuse to dubble-tap that writer. but alas there was still some good in him.
ignoranceandwant makes a good point but will did not loose all of his humanity he did give some the chance to clear out the back so his wife did change him a bit i thiink
most guys wake up in the morning with a hangover and vaguely remember being a jackass to their girlfriend, clint wakes up hungover and vaguely remembers killing everyone in the bar
This scene was great. I loved how it showed that fear can disable men. I mean they had him out gun and out manned yet more than half of them were far to terrified to act.
The single greatest delivery of a line ever. 1:53 to 2:11. "thats right, i've killed women and children, i've killed just about everything that walks or crawls at one time or another and i'm here to kill you little bill for what you did to ned"
he returns to his former self because he is bringing up to 2 kids while digging shit, probably because this is what his wife wanted not a dead husband he returns to his former ways because he knows this is the last chance its not difficult to understand his motives, or is it
Not too many people notice the poetic justice of him killing Lil Bill with Ned's rifle, when it was Lil Bill who killed Ned. This film is very deep and anything but a typical western shoot'em up. It explores realistic consequences of a culture of violence, and attitudes about revenge, violence, and death. Eastwood's best film, and an excellent script.
Not too many people pay attention to what actually happens in a movie, they are too busy trying to sound like they have some divine insight. He didnt kill Lil Bill with Ned's rifle, he shot Li Bill 2x, once with a six shooter after Ned's rifle misfired and then with the rifle the writer picked up for him. You may have made a good point except for the fact the you are wrong about what happened in the actual movie.
@1919jms I suggest you watch the movie again and pay attention to the guns. The double-barrelled shotgun that misfires is William Munny's gun (Which he brought from home, and used during target practice). The Spencer rifle that William kills Lil Bill with is Ned's gun. (The "writer" W.W. even confirms that it's a Spencer rifle before William points it at him to make him leave the salloon.
People love this scene without understanding the deep sadness behind it. Munny has given up his hard-earned sobriety (and, in a way, his dead wife's approval) to return to his former self. While people LIKE his former self, an angry, drunken badass, Munny still suffers because his former self had no future, and he realizes that he simply is not made to be a gentle man...he IS a mean, cold-blooded man who will die a lonely death. Munny wants to be someone he can never be.
@ignoranceandwant Who do you think you are and how do you know what people "love without understanding"? Do you think you're the only one who's watched the movie?
Ya and ned's death had nothing to do with his once more kill the bastard who did him in. Further more he does not need his dead wife's approval to kill for a decent reason he was not a good husband when she was alive so he feels he ow's her gratitude in her death. Finally he got money from the hookers and he was not greedy with it. He gave equal shares to Ned's family and the kid. He felt guilty for killing innocent people and his wife's death woke him up!
@ignoranceandwant I enjoyed Unforgiven a lot more when I read that explanation of the Munny character. Although some may see it as sad with Munny's regression, I felt that it fits the theme of the fruitlessness of changing oneself. The movie didn't just focus on Munny himself, but the world he lived in as well, which is a very cold and unforgiving place. As we all know, nothing is harder than being a decent man in an indecent time.
@ignoranceandwant It is a powerful scene to end a provacative film. The epilogue gives us just a peek at what was. I do not believe he gave up his hard earned sobriety. He certainly has not given up on his former life with his children either. I think the "Whore" was in some way Munny attempting to glean some kind of resolve over his wifes death...her demise deliberatley ambigious. He did right by Ned and the Kid financially. Munny accepts who he is ultimately.
Just bought a Stoeger Coach gun the other day and decided to take it out. Shot the right barrel, all fine, pull the second trigger for the left barrel, CLICK, and literally the first thing that went through my brain was, "Misfire!" The level of Eastwoodliness was gargantuan.
I don't know if I agree with Clint shooting the owner. After all, he was only doing what Bill told him to do... that doesn't necessarily mean he agreed with it.
You need to watch the whole movie to understand this final scene. He keeps himself to himself, dont act big, but when it matters? He a ruthless killer
Can some explain the deserve got nothing to do with it line. LOL I think it must mean just pure hate. He looked down the barrel and shot lil bill and dude on the way out.. Great scene.
@gepet007 It's a story of revenge- whether he deserved it or not doesn't matter- he avenged his friend's death and that's all that matters to him- justice.
@gepet007 Just what it says. Doesn't matter that Bill's a sheriff , a "good guy",or that he's building a house. It wouldn't matter if he were a woman or child or priest or anything innocent or righteous. What matters is Clint is standing over him with a loaded rifle and Bill is helpless. William Munny lives in the moment. None of this "shoot the quickest draw first" or any kind of hokie honor about it. Which probably explains why Munny has always been "lucky in the order" that he kills people.
The reason why people love this scene is because it is so bad azz. When most people run in his situation he rolled up on them. A mans man a straight pair of Iron balls. That is the way to go out.
@xaxie1 They kept missing him cos they hadn't got it in them to kill him and were weak- that's the whole point of the film- a depection of revenge and warped justice.
@xaxie1 And realistic would be shooting from the hip and knocking the other guy's gun out of his hand like most of the bullshit westerns? Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. The other dudes panicked because they knew someone was shooting back, spray and pray. Clint took his time and cleaned house. That is the way to shoot.The rest is just hollwood bs.
One thing i never understood about this film, and it always put a damper on it for me was how race was NEVER addressed. Its all well and good to have a black guy (freeman) as a partner, but he's drinking at the same saloon, he is using the same hookers, even when he's being beaten and interrogated not one person so much as calls him "colored" or "negro" let along something else. compared to the rest of the film's realism, it stands out like a sore thumb.
@Mazdak1 because realism is just a word . No movie,book,comics,etc... can reach the intricacy of reality . Hence the fact even a so called realistic movie has to make choices . Those who try to reach too far , deal with too many subjects, invariably fail . Why talk about the fact he's black ? unforgiven is about one thing and one thing only deconstruct the myth of western : john ford's heroes ,hawkes's friends , leone's skilled gunfighters , ... Race has never been a myth of western .
I bleieve him to be a good man..he kills those who deserve it...we need more people nowadays as tough as him. Don't tell me that if somewone killed your best friend and long time partner..displayed him in front of everyone that you wouldn't want to kill them. 'They asked for it when they did what they did..they pissed him off. We all have an ugly side.they just experienced his.
@harmonicaman008 No. No he is not. He explains through out the movie he was a killer and just a killer. He killed for money, the fact the guy did something wrong just let him sit in the right for the nostalgia of mudering. He admitted to blowing peoples brains out who were inoccent, he mentioned he shot up children and inoccent men/women before. In this one case he may of been a bit more directed but he is still an evil man. He did not deserve to win, he was just better and thats how it rolls.
Oh I understand that on how he was evil. All I'm saying is that for the most part he is sorry about his past, throughout the whole movie he does not want to mention the things he has done..as well as the fact that he was drunk when most of his bad past happened. . But when they killed his best friend they made him angry....it doesn't mean he is evil if he wants justice. If you found your friend's corpse displayed in town would you not do the same thing???
@harmonicaman008 I think what we are getting at is was his actions reasonable and I agree they are. However his past actions, drunk or not are still evil. His soul is sullied with blood and the cheif although bad was at least directed and had somewhat more a attempt of a good desire inside him. I understand what you are saying though. He wants to be a good man-will- but sadly he is denied that pleasure as his scars never leave. Ned needed to reveneged none the less weither was good/evil.
See, everyone gets this wrong -- its a complicated scene in a complicated movie, so no offense meant. But consider: did Skinny deserve to die? Was Little Bill a bad man, or was he just trying to keep order? Remember that Will Munny just began drinking again -- this is when we see him as he *was* -- and he's betrayed his oath to his wife. He gives in to his urge for vengeance, on the tip of a bottle. We're meant to root for him, but I don't believe Will Munny is the good man here. Thoughts?
@occlusian I'll mention something for the record -- I've read the shooting script (which I recommend reading if you're a serious fan, as I am, of this movie) -- in the original script, we see Will as he *was*, and he's basically a force of nature -- a killer, nay...a Killer, period. I believe this scene is him reverting to his earlier nature, with the triggers being (a) the death of Ned, and (b) him giving in to his alcoholism.
@occlusian Finally, consider thoroughly Skinny's death -- he mans up, when Will asks -- and Will shoots him dead. Would you do the same? Skinny may have been a bit of a scumbag, but he had some honor in him, in the end.
@occlusian did Skinny deserve to die? well... deserves got nothin' to do with it. Yes, Little Bill was just trying to keep peace in his town, so, in a sense, he did not deserve to die... but then we get back to "deserves".
this movie is realistic! thats what makes it so great!,i had a great uncle just like himthat killed at least 8 men that ppl know of in the early 1900's the old timers were tuff enuff!!they were different from todays ppl!!!
one of these days that toilet will collapse under the weight of you, and will be crying whoowaawaa D'8 the next thing you know you will be pressing life-alert so the police can come in large number to pick up the rotten fat fucking pig that exist which is you, they probably need hazmat suits to come so they dont breathe in the toxic fumes and soffucate aafter sitting under your own filth on a computer everyday trying to act like he's a bad ass, now is a pussy telling me to shut up, wow HAHAHAHA
I was surprised at the weak line around 7:02. Of course Munny thought L.Bill deserved it. Saying "deserve's got nothin to do w/it" really doesn't fit. I always wonder about the writing process, as some things can be brilliant, while others are idiotic. Great movie overall. Especially poignant was the description of killing a man (taking away all he'd ever be).
The Scene in the bar when Munny has the fever, the part where Eastwood is sitting shivering with his coat up around his neck was one of the best acted scenes I've ever seen and then when he cocks his shot gun at the last scene was unreal. He should have won best actor
RonnyUniverse 1 day ago
what a big silly goophball ned munny was.
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Is it considered "not cool" to put 'The Unforgiven' on Top Western Films lists? It is hands down, the best Western ever made. It is an absolutely flawless film. It is visually stunning, engaging, and has some of the best dialogue of any film of any genre. And it doesn't suffer from some of the shortcoming of old school Westerns. The Searchers was amazing but it was boring at parts. People don't like to admit that. Same thing can be said about Liberty Valence. And the music was CHEESEY!
rmed30 1 day ago
the whore refers to the original goal of his quest does it not. To set right a wrong done to a whore?. Or else I missed you meaning. off the track - Can you imagine a canadian version, no Guns, no shooting, "Now you be nice to each other EH?" I am so glad we can own guns and actually use them for self defense. Wuff
Wuff4u 3 days ago
@Wuff4u fuck off u dick head!...this is a film!...no way tits like you can be linked to the rights and wrongs of great films like this..America is fucked up cos of stupid gun laws...easy to pull a trigger eh wimpy ass!..try fighting like a man!.....hope when the time comes you dont wimp out like the guys in this clip!..you yanky arrogant faggot!
MrCOLTSR2 2 days ago
One of the greatest movie scenes of all time.
wadems 5 days ago
The true point is Karma can be a bitch,,one day you are the bat, the next day your the ball, "deserve has nothing to do with.",, a phase later in the movie " we all have it comming kid."
This is one of the greatest movies ever made, Grand Tarino a very close second.
Swanny383 6 days ago
If the shoe fits wear it
saitek5678 6 days ago
i disagree w ignorance. Money feels responsible for Neds death. He didnt want to kill anyone. He wanted to go home. He's not a typical killer. He did not kill anyone that did not shoot at him, or deserve his idea of justice. All the guys still alive cleared out. Money much preferred live and let live, and thats where he is going..home
pound7 1 week ago
@pound7 I disagree with that. Munny's words were the true William Munny, his threats to kill everyone a real one.
This is supported by his last words to the town, his last threat, which he almost whispers to himself. Ignoranceandwant is right, no matter who much he wanted to change, came to feel remorse of the people he killed, or no matter how long he was able to, in a way, fake being someone else, in the end, William Munny was a mean, cold, killer, a monster of a human being.
SerUresto 1 week ago
i disage
pound7 1 week ago
Interesting they mention William Bonney, His exploits were well known by1880
Lennon4ever1 3 weeks ago
This scene gives me chills every time. Amazing
Shiyaku93 3 weeks ago
"Well he should have armed himself, if hes gonna decorate his salon with my friend." - Greatest line ever
whiteknight4879 3 weeks ago
Who's the fella owns this shithole? .... You, fat man. Speak up :)
bokaboki77 3 weeks ago
I kinda wish he killed that damn writer. He's a scummy ship-jumping motherfucker. He's a writer? Well write this! BAM!
WKaliberr 3 weeks ago
One of the last few great iconic actors. Also, one of the top five westerns of all time in my opinion.
66THEOSU 3 weeks ago
I like to think that the man with no name is actually William Munny, and this is the sequel to the dollars trilogy. Maybe if Lee Van Cleef was still alive when this was made, he would have played ned's role, but as Douglas Mortimor. It ties up the man with no name's story pretty well.
maxarof 3 weeks ago
@maxarof The man with no name was ultimately good whereas William Munny is bad bad bad,
fvgdfbdokd 2 weeks ago
@fvgdfbdokd Not really. William Munny was avenging his friend. The Man with no Name was a bounty hunter, mercenary, and treasure hunter. Both had some reason to do what they did (saving that women in Fistful of Dollars, avenging Ned) but they're both ruthless killers that the world would see as evil.
maxarof 2 weeks ago
best western film
qphase1 4 weeks ago
mehr geht nicht...
turbonikos 4 weeks ago
Bet movie in history
Kneleist 1 month ago 2
clint eastwood means business in this scene!
bigkest666 1 month ago
Probablemente,la mejor escena de la historia del cine....
jesuo1982 1 month ago
Clint Eastwood=Roland Deschain
cedelong5 1 month ago
@cedelong5 my thoughts exactly.
madmike81 1 month ago
I have all his spaghetti westerns and Dirty Harry movies, but Unforgiven is the crown jewel. Noone will ever compare to Clint Eastwood.
cedelong5 1 month ago
But not only did it show that fear can disable men. but why.. The fight or flight reaction and adrenaline is of no help when involving aiming firearms. It makes you unsteady, nervous, shaking uncontrollably even. Anyone in a simple fist fight can relate to this.. Someone who is battle hardened and desensitized by confrontations/violence has the advantage. . If anyone remembers the North hollywood bank robbery of 97, the two robbers took loads of phenobarbital to address this
andrewstevenking 1 month ago
I dont know if I agree. It is true Munny has to back slide, but it was necessary for revenge. Plus, from the epilogue it looks like he was able to go back to his good self.
jbar19 1 month ago
Deserve has nothing to do with it.
joker98259 1 month ago
"That’s right. I’ve killed women and children. I’ve killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. And I’m here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you did to Ned." One of the best movie line ever.
athelatinlover 1 month ago
Best damn scene in just about any movie, ever. It tells the truth. The movie portrays that the "tough" don't win fights. The "crazy-hard" do; no feeling. Not glorified, not awesome, no order to anything; just chaos. That's how life is. Little Bill was always wrong. When confronted by superior numbers, you just shoot and kill anything that threatens you. You don't think at all. Pure instinct.
investbo 2 months ago
@1919jms dude your way off.
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Doesn't deserve have everything to do with it?
ScaredCivilian 2 months ago
Most of the Bars I go to, are like dead boring.
A Vendetta like this would certainly liven things up.
Have said that,I still love Colombia.
mixn44 2 months ago
say what you want but Clint Eastwood hasn't done many bad films.
MrHEC381991 2 months ago
Magic!
Monzani2011 2 months ago
any actor as cool as Clint nowadays?
georgez1968 2 months ago 4
when he told to pick up a rifle with them shells, i thought clint was creating an excuse to dubble-tap that writer. but alas there was still some good in him.
RurickTheGreat 2 months ago
ignoranceandwant makes a good point but will did not loose all of his humanity he did give some the chance to clear out the back so his wife did change him a bit i thiink
Jeepus80 3 months ago
"you, fat man, speak up"......best flawed anti hero
ritter89 3 months ago
most guys wake up in the morning with a hangover and vaguely remember being a jackass to their girlfriend, clint wakes up hungover and vaguely remembers killing everyone in the bar
jbarksdale56 3 months ago 3
He rode away on a solid white horse. I have no doubt that was intentional.
Behold a pale horse. Munny was the personification of death.
Abasuto 3 months ago 4
this final scene made the whole movie
uzywkownik 3 months ago
This scene was great. I loved how it showed that fear can disable men. I mean they had him out gun and out manned yet more than half of them were far to terrified to act.
Adino1 3 months ago
The single greatest delivery of a line ever. 1:53 to 2:11. "thats right, i've killed women and children, i've killed just about everything that walks or crawls at one time or another and i'm here to kill you little bill for what you did to ned"
DaBigChalk1991 3 months ago
Munny is ten times more badass than Chuck Norris. (*looks over shoulder)
jmnage 5 months ago 9
@jmnage chuck norris is a fucking pussy.
fvgdfbdokd 2 weeks ago
i'd pretty much shit my pants if i see Clint Eastwood coming in my bar
dhalsim33 5 months ago 5
Hackman and Eastwood are amazing in this movie. Absoulutely my favorite movie of all time.
mnail33 5 months ago
15 people deserve this.
darkknight07100 5 months ago
clint eastwood is gangster
BuCnasty 5 months ago
.....a know thief and murderer, a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition.
whomad3you 5 months ago
...I'll come back and kill every one of you sons a bitches.
TheWhiskyDrinker 5 months ago
" I was lucky in the order... but I've always been lucky when it comes to killin folks" - Chilling lines.
allenlobo 5 months ago
he returns to his former self because he is bringing up to 2 kids while digging shit, probably because this is what his wife wanted not a dead husband he returns to his former ways because he knows this is the last chance its not difficult to understand his motives, or is it
buscargo89 5 months ago
"I'll see you in hell, William Munny!"
"Yeah."
halleck3 5 months ago 3
best western ever
icy9ff8 5 months ago
clint was so good in this that you can feel the old william muny come out of him in this scene!
johnnydoggworth 6 months ago
Not too many people notice the poetic justice of him killing Lil Bill with Ned's rifle, when it was Lil Bill who killed Ned. This film is very deep and anything but a typical western shoot'em up. It explores realistic consequences of a culture of violence, and attitudes about revenge, violence, and death. Eastwood's best film, and an excellent script.
Prestonator8 6 months ago
@Prestonator8
Not too many people pay attention to what actually happens in a movie, they are too busy trying to sound like they have some divine insight. He didnt kill Lil Bill with Ned's rifle, he shot Li Bill 2x, once with a six shooter after Ned's rifle misfired and then with the rifle the writer picked up for him. You may have made a good point except for the fact the you are wrong about what happened in the actual movie.
1919jms 3 months ago
@1919jms neds rifle didnt misfire the dub barrel shotgun did.
WildGaston 3 months ago
@1919jms I suggest you watch the movie again and pay attention to the guns. The double-barrelled shotgun that misfires is William Munny's gun (Which he brought from home, and used during target practice). The Spencer rifle that William kills Lil Bill with is Ned's gun. (The "writer" W.W. even confirms that it's a Spencer rifle before William points it at him to make him leave the salloon.
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23ord 6 months ago
3:23
MrKappaBeta 6 months ago
People love this scene without understanding the deep sadness behind it. Munny has given up his hard-earned sobriety (and, in a way, his dead wife's approval) to return to his former self. While people LIKE his former self, an angry, drunken badass, Munny still suffers because his former self had no future, and he realizes that he simply is not made to be a gentle man...he IS a mean, cold-blooded man who will die a lonely death. Munny wants to be someone he can never be.
ignoranceandwant 6 months ago 50
You are absolutely right!
scripteach 6 months ago
@ignoranceandwant Rumor has it he prospered in dry goods.
CheapDutchmen 6 months ago
@ignoranceandwant Who do you think you are and how do you know what people "love without understanding"? Do you think you're the only one who's watched the movie?
Monzani2011 2 months ago
@ignoranceandwant
Don't forget that he still have his kids
kelnaldinho 2 months ago
@ignoranceandwant Very astute. I never really thought of this scene from that perspective.
bashfulbrother 2 months ago
@ignoranceandwant Well, maybe thats why is called UNFORGIVEN.
MerscoMeselo 1 month ago
@ignoranceandwant ,
Ya and ned's death had nothing to do with his once more kill the bastard who did him in. Further more he does not need his dead wife's approval to kill for a decent reason he was not a good husband when she was alive so he feels he ow's her gratitude in her death. Finally he got money from the hookers and he was not greedy with it. He gave equal shares to Ned's family and the kid. He felt guilty for killing innocent people and his wife's death woke him up!
tarimaa1 1 month ago
@ignoranceandwant I enjoyed Unforgiven a lot more when I read that explanation of the Munny character. Although some may see it as sad with Munny's regression, I felt that it fits the theme of the fruitlessness of changing oneself. The movie didn't just focus on Munny himself, but the world he lived in as well, which is a very cold and unforgiving place. As we all know, nothing is harder than being a decent man in an indecent time.
bamb0ostick 2 weeks ago
@ignoranceandwant It is a powerful scene to end a provacative film. The epilogue gives us just a peek at what was. I do not believe he gave up his hard earned sobriety. He certainly has not given up on his former life with his children either. I think the "Whore" was in some way Munny attempting to glean some kind of resolve over his wifes death...her demise deliberatley ambigious. He did right by Ned and the Kid financially. Munny accepts who he is ultimately.
Eastwoods greatest work imo
PunkersAgain 2 weeks ago 13
@ignoranceandwant Very good analysis. Amazing film.
jatheist25 2 weeks ago
@ignoranceandwant Actually, I love this scenes BECAUSE of the points you make.
83shovel 6 days ago
Just bought a Stoeger Coach gun the other day and decided to take it out. Shot the right barrel, all fine, pull the second trigger for the left barrel, CLICK, and literally the first thing that went through my brain was, "Misfire!" The level of Eastwoodliness was gargantuan.
WolfgangIsNub 6 months ago
One of the best Eastwood movies. Epic and emotive.
horozuz 6 months ago
the reason this scene owns' all and clint sould be lobo the main man' pure perfection on this scene'
havol12 6 months ago
Never understood him shooting the guy in the balls.
brianallancobb 6 months ago
Whore's gold.
brianallancobb 6 months ago
or, you know how it goes.
whakadu22 6 months ago
"...not only gonna kill him, I'ma kill his family, and all his friends. And burn his damn house down!"
whakadu22 6 months ago 2
clint your the man !
dave2806 6 months ago
Who owns this shit hole,there will never be another clint eastwood.
Alizeet9 6 months ago
you just q unanmerde men I ,m here to kill little bill for of did to Ned
cdsk190 6 months ago
You better clear out of there.
Yes, sir.
IzzyPanzer 7 months ago
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great film , watched it many times, brilliant
MrCheesey73 7 months ago
I don't know if I agree with Clint shooting the owner. After all, he was only doing what Bill told him to do... that doesn't necessarily mean he agreed with it.
xyPERSON 7 months ago
There's no actor like Clint Eastwood when it's question about charisma. He got it allready during era of Dollar Trilogy.
tranmere789 7 months ago
Age is an illusion for Clint Eastwood, he can pretty much still kick anyone's ass.
AndrewMann552 7 months ago
"Death comes out to play"
Metalbob011 7 months ago
Best western ever.
magicx3434 7 months ago 23
@magicx3434 Best movie ever.
124mjn 1 month ago
I'll come back and i will kill you all sone of the bitches
TheStasgrosu 7 months ago
"I'll see you in hell William Munny."
"Yeah."
*BLAM*
squamish4244 7 months ago 3
You need to watch the whole movie to understand this final scene. He keeps himself to himself, dont act big, but when it matters? He a ruthless killer
1gsd1982 7 months ago
and we're bound to come across somebody who's seen these.......skunks...
fightinside1 7 months ago
I'm here to kill those 13 dislikes for what they did to Ned............
corkstreet07 7 months ago
Can some explain the deserve got nothing to do with it line. LOL I think it must mean just pure hate. He looked down the barrel and shot lil bill and dude on the way out.. Great scene.
gepet007 7 months ago
@gepet007 It's a story of revenge- whether he deserved it or not doesn't matter- he avenged his friend's death and that's all that matters to him- justice.
corkstreet07 7 months ago
@gepet007 Just what it says. Doesn't matter that Bill's a sheriff , a "good guy",or that he's building a house. It wouldn't matter if he were a woman or child or priest or anything innocent or righteous. What matters is Clint is standing over him with a loaded rifle and Bill is helpless. William Munny lives in the moment. None of this "shoot the quickest draw first" or any kind of hokie honor about it. Which probably explains why Munny has always been "lucky in the order" that he kills people.
kquill13 2 weeks ago
The reason why people love this scene is because it is so bad azz. When most people run in his situation he rolled up on them. A mans man a straight pair of Iron balls. That is the way to go out.
gepet007 7 months ago
"Any damn son of a bitch who takes a shot at me, I'm not only going to kill him, I'm going to kill his wife and all his friend."- badass!
SpatulaMcMoist 7 months ago
@SpatulaMcMoist And burn his house, too!
danerogil 7 months ago
who are the 13 fellas that own this shit hole?
interzoneee 7 months ago
I don't get why everyone loves this scene, it's probably the most unrealistic and awkward shootout ever.
2:50 Clint would have easily died, but they kept on missing him?
what the hell?
xaxie1 7 months ago
@xaxie1 Never doubt Clint Eastwoods movies again... ever...
danerogil 7 months ago
@xaxie1 They kept missing him cos they hadn't got it in them to kill him and were weak- that's the whole point of the film- a depection of revenge and warped justice.
corkstreet07 7 months ago
@xaxie1 you are wrong and i don't think you watched the whole movie
the only one in the entire room who could match eastwood was hackman
the others can't aim for shit AND they panic like headless chickens, so only way he gets hit is if they get a lucky shot or ricochet
this is i think my 3rd favourite western of all time after OUATITW and TWB
darkside666666 5 months ago
@xaxie1 And realistic would be shooting from the hip and knocking the other guy's gun out of his hand like most of the bullshit westerns? Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. The other dudes panicked because they knew someone was shooting back, spray and pray. Clint took his time and cleaned house. That is the way to shoot.The rest is just hollwood bs.
kquill13 2 weeks ago
NOW THAT'S THE WAY TO TAKE OF CARE BUSINESS
gramos1959 7 months ago
NOW THAT'S THE WAY TO TAKE OF BUSINESS
gramos1959 7 months ago
They must have been laughin' at Will's mule.
TroutButter 7 months ago
William Munny made a MESS of Little Bill.
dukeon 7 months ago
This is the kind of friend that I would have.
cdsk190 7 months ago
Rule Number One: NEVER mess with Clint Eastwood.
colmhearne 8 months ago
uno de los mejores finales de todos los tiempos,el que no vio esta peli no entiende nada de la vida
sebastianudisimo 8 months ago
Good ending just wish it would have been longer, and more gun fighting. Like Pale Rider.
jerm26554 8 months ago
William Munny: "Who's the fella that owns this shithole?"
Skinny: "Oh shit.... I'm f*****"
94jg 8 months ago
One thing i never understood about this film, and it always put a damper on it for me was how race was NEVER addressed. Its all well and good to have a black guy (freeman) as a partner, but he's drinking at the same saloon, he is using the same hookers, even when he's being beaten and interrogated not one person so much as calls him "colored" or "negro" let along something else. compared to the rest of the film's realism, it stands out like a sore thumb.
Mazdak1 8 months ago
@Mazdak1 because realism is just a word . No movie,book,comics,etc... can reach the intricacy of reality . Hence the fact even a so called realistic movie has to make choices . Those who try to reach too far , deal with too many subjects, invariably fail . Why talk about the fact he's black ? unforgiven is about one thing and one thing only deconstruct the myth of western : john ford's heroes ,hawkes's friends , leone's skilled gunfighters , ... Race has never been a myth of western .
nedalnekbrad 8 months ago
Love the timing of the thunders, hehe
ramjet81 8 months ago
I forgot how fucking good this was.
cochranexyz 8 months ago
"I've always been lucky when it comes to killin' folks...." The wild west would have been a very ruthless era.......... "Yeah."
a1mdwpr 8 months ago
this is the best ever' 'you kill women and children' that's right 'i kill women and children'
deadpooln12 8 months ago
love the jewish brave
johnanthonyp 8 months ago
Any man don't wanna get killed better clear on out the back
ProtestantIRA 8 months ago 3
I bleieve him to be a good man..he kills those who deserve it...we need more people nowadays as tough as him. Don't tell me that if somewone killed your best friend and long time partner..displayed him in front of everyone that you wouldn't want to kill them. 'They asked for it when they did what they did..they pissed him off. We all have an ugly side.they just experienced his.
harmonicaman008 8 months ago
@harmonicaman008 No. No he is not. He explains through out the movie he was a killer and just a killer. He killed for money, the fact the guy did something wrong just let him sit in the right for the nostalgia of mudering. He admitted to blowing peoples brains out who were inoccent, he mentioned he shot up children and inoccent men/women before. In this one case he may of been a bit more directed but he is still an evil man. He did not deserve to win, he was just better and thats how it rolls.
Sulvuss 7 months ago
@Sulvuss
Oh I understand that on how he was evil. All I'm saying is that for the most part he is sorry about his past, throughout the whole movie he does not want to mention the things he has done..as well as the fact that he was drunk when most of his bad past happened. . But when they killed his best friend they made him angry....it doesn't mean he is evil if he wants justice. If you found your friend's corpse displayed in town would you not do the same thing???
harmonicaman008 7 months ago
@harmonicaman008 I think what we are getting at is was his actions reasonable and I agree they are. However his past actions, drunk or not are still evil. His soul is sullied with blood and the cheif although bad was at least directed and had somewhat more a attempt of a good desire inside him. I understand what you are saying though. He wants to be a good man-will- but sadly he is denied that pleasure as his scars never leave. Ned needed to reveneged none the less weither was good/evil.
Sulvuss 7 months ago
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harmonicaman008 8 months ago
See, everyone gets this wrong -- its a complicated scene in a complicated movie, so no offense meant. But consider: did Skinny deserve to die? Was Little Bill a bad man, or was he just trying to keep order? Remember that Will Munny just began drinking again -- this is when we see him as he *was* -- and he's betrayed his oath to his wife. He gives in to his urge for vengeance, on the tip of a bottle. We're meant to root for him, but I don't believe Will Munny is the good man here. Thoughts?
occlusian 8 months ago
@occlusian I'll mention something for the record -- I've read the shooting script (which I recommend reading if you're a serious fan, as I am, of this movie) -- in the original script, we see Will as he *was*, and he's basically a force of nature -- a killer, nay...a Killer, period. I believe this scene is him reverting to his earlier nature, with the triggers being (a) the death of Ned, and (b) him giving in to his alcoholism.
occlusian 8 months ago
@occlusian Finally, consider thoroughly Skinny's death -- he mans up, when Will asks -- and Will shoots him dead. Would you do the same? Skinny may have been a bit of a scumbag, but he had some honor in him, in the end.
occlusian 8 months ago
@occlusian did Skinny deserve to die? well... deserves got nothin' to do with it. Yes, Little Bill was just trying to keep peace in his town, so, in a sense, he did not deserve to die... but then we get back to "deserves".
jayci68 8 months ago
I'll see you in hell, William Munny...
Yea....
Classic Clint...
martymars 8 months ago 3
well he shouldve armed himself,if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend
boywithnoname69 8 months ago
this is total ownage this clips owns all'
deadpooln12 8 months ago
osama bin laden just took o shoot at william munny
TotalViper1 8 months ago
whos the fellow that owns this shithole?
reddevil8080 9 months ago 4
whos the fellow that oens this shithole ?
reddevil8080 9 months ago
Funeral business is booming whenever Clint visits a town
Newbpwng 9 months ago
I reckon so!
tanagerbirder 9 months ago
they are idiots, i cant believe no one got him
2047alvi 9 months ago
"..you just shot an unarmed man!"
"Well he should have armed himself, if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend."
rwin1 9 months ago 60
this movie is realistic! thats what makes it so great!,i had a great uncle just like himthat killed at least 8 men that ppl know of in the early 1900's the old timers were tuff enuff!!they were different from todays ppl!!!
snecadc10 9 months ago 2
@snecadc10
showoff
giginapalm 9 months ago
"Well he should of armed himself ". LOL. Clint Eastwood King of the westerns and a great director.
greyfoxau 9 months ago
Red Dead Redemption: The Movie
Reclaimer1547 9 months ago
I'll come back and kill all you sons a bitches
stealthblack6 9 months ago
1 word: AWESOME
66GreenBaron66 10 months ago
aplause
daraczg 10 months ago
11 people didn't "clear on out the back"!
CEOkiller 10 months ago 3
A masterstroke outa clint to throw the gun at little Bill to buy himself some time. I love when the fat man gets it in the back running away too!
elswine1978 10 months ago
What a fiercesome scene.
lowenklee 10 months ago
im not gay or anything but dear god william munny is scary sexy sunova bitch
generality 10 months ago
incredible tension
wescha 10 months ago
11 people................ya.
LURKUMALL 10 months ago
My favorite western.
When I saw the previews, featuring Eastwood, Hackman, and English Bob, I thought, who wants to see a movie with those old bastards?
Turns out it was me.
brianallancobb 10 months ago
Still think Tombstone is a better movie.. but barely.
daverelax1 10 months ago
'you're right, no human being would stack books like that' ... , ooops :D
MrsBirminghamInHell 10 months ago
Who's the fella that owns this shithole?
ufgt1989 10 months ago
Iv'e always been lucky when it comes to killin folks
sac43 10 months ago
Get 11 coffins ready
BitzRitz1988 10 months ago 24
not only gonna kill him but im gonna kill his wife and all his friends and burn his damn house down
uzavas 10 months ago
You Fatman speak up (haha)
1984clg 11 months ago
11 people are "sons of bitches"
noudo25 11 months ago
Best western ever!!!!!!
noudo25 11 months ago 3
one of these days that toilet will collapse under the weight of you, and will be crying whoowaawaa D'8 the next thing you know you will be pressing life-alert so the police can come in large number to pick up the rotten fat fucking pig that exist which is you, they probably need hazmat suits to come so they dont breathe in the toxic fumes and soffucate aafter sitting under your own filth on a computer everyday trying to act like he's a bad ass, now is a pussy telling me to shut up, wow HAHAHAHA
xtbcx1 11 months ago
Anyone else hate the Little Bill spirit? My man William Money. The coldest on a white horse. 9:22
ModernDayProphets 11 months ago
11 people should've armed themselves
locutus94 11 months ago
Who`s the fella who owns this shit hole?
spirit7462 11 months ago
I love the fear in the eyes of the prostitutes.
SPFrobber 11 months ago
I was surprised at the weak line around 7:02. Of course Munny thought L.Bill deserved it. Saying "deserve's got nothin to do w/it" really doesn't fit. I always wonder about the writing process, as some things can be brilliant, while others are idiotic. Great movie overall. Especially poignant was the description of killing a man (taking away all he'd ever be).
kenfo0 11 months ago
...Shut the fuck up -__-
xtbcx1 11 months ago