I know I'm going to get thumbed all to hell for this, but the new stangs suck really bad. They don't sound as good, and even when customized, they just look all about the same. Even this Saleen sounds like shit. I love Mustangs, but I have to be honest...
XxrSR50Rxx, maybe you do not know nor understand Saleen like i do.
Saleen takes these cars which were originally Fords and gut them out from nose to tail, afterwards Saleen replaces ALL of Fords Cosmetic(Exterior)and Mechanical parts(including Ford's engine)with ALL Saleen of parts.
Saleen is an Independent company and is not owned by Ford and Ford does not have anything to do with the Saleen S281 and S302 cars nor owns the registered rights to the cars.
@blackandgold51 actually ford manufactures the vehicle and saleen utilizes many of fords factory components, such as the interior, the frame, the engine...yes engine, on the s281, they use the factory engine, the base 281s also use the same exhaust, they use the same powertrain and wiring harnesses, saleen has to pay ford a percentage per vehicle sold as i recall, due to the fact that they buy their cars from ford to begin with, or i think they only pay vehicle cost
@whiteandgold26 that would only be the case with the Extreme badged models, which are their supercharged models, the Extreme badged models are indeed engineered 85% by saleen, with the factory ford interior, and most body panels being reused, saleens are also painted in ford factory colors, the fact that you really had to make another account and go look up wiki facts is actually kinda depressing mate, i purchased my first mustang from a saleen ceritifed dealership, saleens are amped up fords
''the fact that you really had to make another account and go look up wiki facts"
First off I had this other account since about few months ago since I don't want to just stay on just one account.
And second, I didn't look up "Wiki", I've actually been at the Saleen Manufacturing Plant myself in Irvine,CA when they gave out free tours of of what they do to the cars,
A Saleen is very much the same like RUF (which starts life as a Porsche body) RUF is a RUF, not a Porsche.
@whiteandgold26 lol regardless, a saleen is just a prettied up mustang, i do believe you misunderstood my stance in this argument, while saleen does make their own tweaks, the car is still a mustang...which is still a ford, a suped up mustang, which is awesome, except now u get the same performance out of say a s302 from a stock mustang for 30k instead of 45k for mufflers and a bodykit, they still are sick ass cars, unfortunately SMS isnt anywhere near saleen yet, steve saleen shouldnt have left
The Ford OE Computer Management System is snatched out and replaced by a Specially Programmed Saleen Computer System. Saleen calls it "PowerFlash".
The engines for the S281 Extreme are built in-house under the supervision of Saleen Chief Engineer Neil Hannermann and Engine Department Manager Bill Tally.
@blackandgold51 Technically, its still the ford engine. Lol. it's still the same old 4.6... that's just been bored and stroked. Other than a bumper change... there isn't much cosmetic change(lights also lol) I think im coming off wrong... lol... I'll just leave it that its still a ford engine.... its just been built.. lol
@mountaincat1000 What? I'm not sure what you are saying here? Are you saying you would have to be right? You do know this is a s302 and not an s281.... s302= stroked 281
@blackandgold51 My dad would have mad respect for you for what you said here xD he owns 2 saleens (one like this from the Midnight Club LA game, and a red one) and he takes it very srsly xD got his saleen merch and everything. ^_^
@blackandgold51 its still a ford engine block, body pannels and etc.. saleen chances the heads and puts a supercharger on, puts a body kit on, guts the interior and replaces with saleen branded upholstery, different wheels and lights and so on as well. and saleen is in fact associated with ford because inorder to sell these mustangs legally they must be in a contract agreement with ford
@blackandgold51 also the saleen mustangs are in reality still just a ford, because they still bear the ford serial numbers on the block,frame,body and so on, as it would be illegal to remove these and replace them with difference numbers, when saleen says they all have serial numbers all that is, is a serial number in the saleen data base marking which production car it was based on the order. This whole process is exactly the same process the GT 500's go threw when ther turned into super snakes
to make it short, Saleen is manufacture NOT tuner, Saleen is like the German Manufacture called RUF which the company takes unnumbered unmarked Porsce chassis and make the cars their OWN vehicles.
I see this car has the optinal 2000 dollar glass top. A lot of ppl dont understand that when saleen gets these cars they are just plain GT's After they are done they are mostly Saleen with very few ford parts left on the car. You wont ever see a Saleen in a ford showroom floor unless they are also a Saleen Dealership also then you will.
Finally someone that understands this. I am constantly fighting with my friends about this very same thing. They along with alot of others think these cars are still fords.
AGAIN,,it is STILL a FORD MUSTANG PLATFORM. All Ford parts removed? You should know they use the 4.6 that FORD makes and slap a Supercharger on it.
Without the great base platform Ford has provided in the form of the 2005 Mustang's all-new architecture and the great cooperation we have received from Ford in the from of early design and engineering information, it would have been impossible for Saleen to have designed and certified the new S281 models in such a timely fashion.-Steve Saleen
Saleen, Takes any given Mustang Once an owner wishes to buy it from them.
They take the Mustang*** from ford shipped to Saleen to be Re-maid from the grounds up depending on which modifications they want. depending on which model they buy anotherwords. so no It is still a mustang. just from a tunning companie that has been with ford for years.
Saleen is not just a tuner. Saleen is actually recognized by the American government as a manufacturer of automobiles. They build on unmarked, unnumbered ford chassis.
Point is- they have to buy form ford after the V6 and or GT mustang is made. and then take that mustang from the dealership ship it too saleen and then make it.
well i'm sorry but i think ur hung up on the fact that the car was first manufactured by Ford (which it was). After Saleen reengineers the car, it is a product of Saleen.
A Butterfly starts life as a Caterpillar. But after its transformation, its a Butterfly (not a Caterpillar)
They use to have a shit load more models.. from there website , currently I only see seven types - and mabe 3 different kind in two different models...
Which don't forget is almost every damn delearship. LOL
every single on I've been too, in the showroom is a Saleen mustang.. so nice try.. Never a Roush yet.. but Saleen and Ford GT 500's only on show room floors.
And as for the engines that r made from Saleen it's a yes or no Well, yes and no. It depends on the model.
The S281 Extreme and S302 Extreme (also known as S281-E and S302-E) are one of Saleens top-of-line models. Therefore they get the MVP Saleen treatment.
Now that's pretty much enough evidence to say that the Saleen S281E IS NOT a Mustang and is therefore a SALEEN product, same goes with the Saleen S302E.
You don't know shit. You can't walk into any Ford dealer and expect to see a Saleen in the showroom. The GT 500, yes, I've seen them...again, no Saleen unless it is a "certified" Saleen dealer. Don't tell me, bitch, 'cause when I went to buy my Saleen I couldn't go into any Ford dealer....SALEEN CERTIFIED, ONLY!!!
you're an idiot and stop comming into an old conversation from another person and I - and that person and I have gotten pasted what your talking about thanks for your stupidity.
Ford Factory Fit & Finish Gone. Even the factory Ford color is ... Gone. All Saleens are painted in colors developed by BASF.
The Ford OE Computer Management System is snatched out and replaced by a Specially Programmed Saleen Computer System. Saleen calls it "PowerFlash".
The engines for the S281 Extreme and S302 Extreme are built in-house under the supervision of Saleen Chief Engineer Neil Hannermann and Engine Department Manager Bill Tally.
So pretty much they do what any other body shop can do if you take your car in and ask them to repaint it and shape up the fit and finish?
Oh and they, like any reputable speed shop, create their own tune for the Mustang and give it a fancy name like Power Flash. MARKETING GIMMICKS, and they sold the HELL out of you!!
No, you sir are the idiot. The Power flash is nothing more than a glorified tune. Instead of adding to the codes, they rewrite them using the FORD ECU. A simple...what do you call it?? Re-FLASH. Again, nothign mroe than a glorified TUNE that ANY speed shop worth their salt can do for you if they have a laptop and capable software.
You apparently are a child incapable of thought and understanding, which I blame EMO for. My comment was specific in content regarding body shops and ECU's. How you didn't understand that I don't get.
Anyone that knows anything about cars also knows that to get a true showroom shine and quality look, you take a brand new car off the lot to have it wet sanded and buffed, and they can add metal, remove metal etc... to clean up the look.
ps: little man - i was not even talking too you : my conversation was with another person and was not about ECU's if you scroll down.. so next time find your own conversation with some one. bc- mine was not with you kid.
said b4 that Saleen is to Ford as RUF is to PORSCHE.
And what i mean is RUF is to Porsche, RUF is a independent company(like Saleen) that takes a Porsche take everything out of it that says porsche until it haves nothing left(if any) that says "porsche" and puts their own parts into the car that makes the porsche merit it as their own(RUF) creation.
In fact, go to any RUF manufacture or dealership and u won't find ANY name at there company that says "Porsche", jus RUF.
They are recognized because of they manufacture the S7, and in doing so they can slap you with a marketing approach of saying the build the S-series mustangs because their parts have to meet OEM requirements. They are nothing more than a tuner that builds the S7 so they have manufacturer status.
I said that the S281E was built by Saleen, but in fact all they do is stroke and bore the FORD 4.6L just like I would do at my local speed shop to make it a 5.0
So, they are STILL using FORD technology and improving on that FORD technology. They don't cast their own heads, block, etc...they simply break down the GT Mustangs engine, bore & stroke it. Just because I take a chevy engine out of my car & have it rebuilt by a Ford dealer, doesn't make it a Ford engine.
by the way each car that saleen gets which is a mustang, has it's vin number from ford takin out and replaced by saleens VERY OWN vin number (regardless if the car is still registered as its former self)
So in fact, it is not ALL Saleen parts, the most important part, ENGINE, is STILL a FORD with a Saleen Supercharger.
The reason that Saleen is able to give the Mustang a VIN is because they manufacture the S7 so therefore they are regulated by the fed. They are not the OEM manufacturer for the Mustang sir, common sense should tell you that.
Most of Saleen's vehicles are highly modified versions of existing mass produced sports cars such as the Ford Mustang - Wiki
Further, how can they be an ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER if they are using EXISTING production cars? Again, the reason they carry that status of OEM is because of the S7, NOT the mustang. The only thing they are required to do with the mustang is ensure their PARTS for the mustang pass OEM standards unlike tuner. That is the ONLY part of federal regulations that apply to Saleen MUSTANGS.
yall know that those two little silver diffusers on the back aren't the real exhaust right?? the actual exhausts are more towards the outside... but the camera didn't get low enough to see
not a princess. prince!!
andypazin 2 months ago
@andypazin nope. its a princess. all machines are women
Wanderer2266 2 months ago
needs a touch screen radio
CallOfDutyEliteMW3 2 months ago
where could I get one in Europe?
TheTerminator248 3 months ago
HAHAHA "What a gorgeous princess" WTF?
hellraiserc1fr 4 months ago 2
Gotta get my face on camera, lol
AkiraSRT9 5 months ago
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Car Salesmen are retarded.
john111987 7 months ago
i got some cash in my piggy bank.. how much for one of these?
FightTheSystem1492 8 months ago
what does the price tag read?
Guitargod4221 1 year ago
what does the price tag read?
Guitargod4221 1 year ago
Saleen always made the best looking mustangs, sleek and sexy.
shelbyblue61 1 year ago
next time you wanna show a car off and rev just make sure its warm revving a supercharged car while cold will ruin your rings prematureally
budmanjr325 1 year ago 2
better than GT 500 Kr?
chrisvda88 1 year ago
the 2010 ford mustang saleen supercharged s281 is better than this one.
818arthur 1 year ago
one of a kind! the S302's are rare to begin with then add the glass roof.....
mitch9521 1 year ago
That is one clean ride.
Blailexan 1 year ago
why back seats? pointless unless u have paraplegic kids
Danny7930 1 year ago
@Danny7930 lol
DarkTristin 1 year ago
@Danny7930 because you need space for more ladys dudee!!
Zero081086 1 year ago
@Danny7930 check it out my car at my page ;)
Zero081086 1 year ago
@Danny7930 ahahahhahahhahaha
oskarkarrera 1 year ago
can this beat tha 2010 gt500 supersnake?
andrewgsb 1 year ago
Sickest exhaust sound...
websslinger 1 year ago
the only problem is that fact that there is a mustang underneath all that plastic
Area51UFOGynaecology 1 year ago
haha would've liked to have seen that MSRP
italiankid1986 1 year ago
LISTEN TO THAT EXHAUST RUMBLE!!! :D BEAUTIFUL.......(the only american car i would drive) :)
supraguy2jzgte 2 years ago 3
oh now thats sexy
yotamanTim 2 years ago
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I know I'm going to get thumbed all to hell for this, but the new stangs suck really bad. They don't sound as good, and even when customized, they just look all about the same. Even this Saleen sounds like shit. I love Mustangs, but I have to be honest...
41elliott 2 years ago
sexy ass car
94STANG562 2 years ago 19
@94STANG562
You want to see a sexy stang type in "Steve Saleen and his 2008 SMS Stang"
SLoBRoDTP 11 months ago
sounds awsome
wetnewf 2 years ago 2
se mira con madre, nada que ver con los otros mustang
5L3tRaS 2 years ago
ok thank you :) im german so i understand what you want to say :) thank you
XxSR50RXx 2 years ago
lol :D looks like a mustang ;D i know its a saleen :D looks like saleen fake cars :D
XxSR50RXx 2 years ago
XxrSR50Rxx, maybe you do not know nor understand Saleen like i do.
Saleen takes these cars which were originally Fords and gut them out from nose to tail, afterwards Saleen replaces ALL of Fords Cosmetic(Exterior)and Mechanical parts(including Ford's engine)with ALL Saleen of parts.
Saleen is an Independent company and is not owned by Ford and Ford does not have anything to do with the Saleen S281 and S302 cars nor owns the registered rights to the cars.
blackandgold51 2 years ago 14
@blackandgold51 actually ford manufactures the vehicle and saleen utilizes many of fords factory components, such as the interior, the frame, the engine...yes engine, on the s281, they use the factory engine, the base 281s also use the same exhaust, they use the same powertrain and wiring harnesses, saleen has to pay ford a percentage per vehicle sold as i recall, due to the fact that they buy their cars from ford to begin with, or i think they only pay vehicle cost
ADD8oi 1 year ago
@ADD8oi
"yes engine, on the s281, they use the factory engine, the base 281s also use the same exhaust,"
No, Saleen also replaces Fords Engine and Exhaust.
I can give you a WHOLE List of what Saleen does to the cars that merits the cars a Saleen's OWN creation.
blackandgold51 1 year ago
@blackandgold51 saleens 302 based engine is fords 4.6L bored out...it still is fords engine design
ADD8oi 1 year ago
@ADD8oi
Blackandgold51 is right, Saleen have their OWN version of their engine.
The life of the S-Series Saleens begins, like all Saleen production cars, on the floor of the company's 131,000 square foot facility. The
new car proceeds down Saleen's assembly line. The car is completely gutted from nose to tail. All Ford parts are removed:
Ford OE Transmission and Transmission Assembly – Gone. Ford OE Suspension and Chassis, Shocks, Springs,...
whiteandgold26 1 year ago
@whiteandgold26 that would only be the case with the Extreme badged models, which are their supercharged models, the Extreme badged models are indeed engineered 85% by saleen, with the factory ford interior, and most body panels being reused, saleens are also painted in ford factory colors, the fact that you really had to make another account and go look up wiki facts is actually kinda depressing mate, i purchased my first mustang from a saleen ceritifed dealership, saleens are amped up fords
ADD8oi 1 year ago
@ADD8oi
''the fact that you really had to make another account and go look up wiki facts"
First off I had this other account since about few months ago since I don't want to just stay on just one account.
And second, I didn't look up "Wiki", I've actually been at the Saleen Manufacturing Plant myself in Irvine,CA when they gave out free tours of of what they do to the cars,
A Saleen is very much the same like RUF (which starts life as a Porsche body) RUF is a RUF, not a Porsche.
whiteandgold26 1 year ago
@whiteandgold26 lol regardless, a saleen is just a prettied up mustang, i do believe you misunderstood my stance in this argument, while saleen does make their own tweaks, the car is still a mustang...which is still a ford, a suped up mustang, which is awesome, except now u get the same performance out of say a s302 from a stock mustang for 30k instead of 45k for mufflers and a bodykit, they still are sick ass cars, unfortunately SMS isnt anywhere near saleen yet, steve saleen shouldnt have left
ADD8oi 1 year ago
@ADD8oi
continued...
Control Arms – Gone.
Ford OE Brakes and Brake Assembly – Gone. Ford OE Wheels and Tires – Gone. Ford OE Engine and Exhaust System – Gone.
Ford OE Air Feed System – Gone. Ford OE Front Clip – Gone. Ford OE Rear Clip and Spoiler – Gone. Ford OE Hood – Gone.
Ford Factory Fit & Finish – Gone. Even the factory Ford color is ... Gone. All Saleens are painted in colors developed by BASF.....
whiteandgold26 1 year ago
@ADD8oi
The Ford OE Computer Management System is snatched out and replaced by a Specially Programmed Saleen Computer System. Saleen calls it "PowerFlash".
The engines for the S281 Extreme are built in-house under the supervision of Saleen Chief Engineer Neil Hannermann and Engine Department Manager Bill Tally.
whiteandgold26 1 year ago
@ADD8oi
Also, you failed to mention that a FORD dealership cannot market, order, take delivery, sell, repair or perform scheduled maintenance on
a Saleen product unless Saleen "certifies" the dealership first. A Ford dealership that wants to market, sell, etc. a Saleen product must
contact Saleen directly to begin the Certification process. It should be noted that Certification is not easy, it is very demanding for a
dealership. Not all Ford dealerships get certified.
whiteandgold26 1 year ago
@blackandgold51 Technically, its still the ford engine. Lol. it's still the same old 4.6... that's just been bored and stroked. Other than a bumper change... there isn't much cosmetic change(lights also lol) I think im coming off wrong... lol... I'll just leave it that its still a ford engine.... its just been built.. lol
Texarmageddon 10 months ago
@Texarmageddon not bored and stroked just supercharged and ported
mountaincat1000 3 weeks ago
@mountaincat1000 Nah man..... this one is either bored or has been stroked... In this case... the 302 are CI
Texarmageddon 3 weeks ago
@Texarmageddon i guess in this case i would have to be since ford didn't have the 5.0 in 2008
mountaincat1000 2 weeks ago
@mountaincat1000 What? I'm not sure what you are saying here? Are you saying you would have to be right? You do know this is a s302 and not an s281.... s302= stroked 281
Texarmageddon 2 weeks ago
@Texarmageddon the i is supposed to be a it* excuse my horrible typing ability
mountaincat1000 2 weeks ago
@blackandgold51 My dad would have mad respect for you for what you said here xD he owns 2 saleens (one like this from the Midnight Club LA game, and a red one) and he takes it very srsly xD got his saleen merch and everything. ^_^
12scolsrud 6 months ago
@blackandgold51 its still a ford engine block, body pannels and etc.. saleen chances the heads and puts a supercharger on, puts a body kit on, guts the interior and replaces with saleen branded upholstery, different wheels and lights and so on as well. and saleen is in fact associated with ford because inorder to sell these mustangs legally they must be in a contract agreement with ford
mountaincat1000 3 weeks ago
@blackandgold51 also the saleen mustangs are in reality still just a ford, because they still bear the ford serial numbers on the block,frame,body and so on, as it would be illegal to remove these and replace them with difference numbers, when saleen says they all have serial numbers all that is, is a serial number in the saleen data base marking which production car it was based on the order. This whole process is exactly the same process the GT 500's go threw when ther turned into super snakes
mountaincat1000 3 weeks ago
continued...
to make it short, Saleen is manufacture NOT tuner, Saleen is like the German Manufacture called RUF which the company takes unnumbered unmarked Porsce chassis and make the cars their OWN vehicles.
blackandgold51 2 years ago 3
this car is just too sexy,beautiful,hot, and a BEAST!
LOCS20 2 years ago 2
The super Snake 720 HP
mustanggt8552003 2 years ago
This car is NOT a Mustang, it's a Saleen S302E
The "E" stands for "Extreme" and the name Extreme is the name for it's superchager that is standerd equipment.
blackandgold51 2 years ago
sell the house and buy a 302e. why not?
SawMill1567 2 years ago 4
COLD!!!!!!!!!!!
metalrayne1 2 years ago
COLD!!!!!!!!!!!
born2makk2007 2 years ago
thats is the fastest mustang special edition 620hp
alfredoalouan 2 years ago
the super snake has 750 i think... look it up
235walker 2 years ago
one of the teachers at my school drives one.... it sounds like a jet almost
johnr1031 2 years ago
this is my car in midnight club LA. fuckin fast
petrolhead1845598 2 years ago
This is fucking fast car.
crazyhustlin 2 years ago
Same here !!! :D
pa13sc08al06 2 years ago
i love that game
thomasmerritt2126 2 years ago
Wow, i just love that car's sound. The car even has a sweet, sharp look to it.
mlbbrockman14 2 years ago
I have this in a convertible, silver. 550HP.
lennyjd 2 years ago
how much $? 50 grand.....+
TOTTI6801 2 years ago
80K to start atleast thats how it is here
11bikerboy11 2 years ago
@_@ this is my dream car
biollante101 2 years ago
meh. It's cute. I would much rather have a 67' goat. or a 32' five window
281knlib 2 years ago
Small Engine LOTS Of Power
ShadowReaper1967 2 years ago
I love how they have the center exhaust!
jarhead10008 2 years ago
nice car the DUB edition of this car is soooo cool they sound well nice
FLYNN2k9 2 years ago
i think this car is so beautiful as Akon would sing.
LOCS20 2 years ago
Jesus christ, this is a car I have to buy. Holy crap, HOLY CRAP I LOVE IT!!!
tacomanfan344 2 years ago
yeah but can it out run a ss or a 03 cobra i mean come on, building a car that can only hang with a older model car
saleenxxx 2 years ago
princess!?!?... that thing is a beast!!!! ha
gonosc00 2 years ago
I see this car has the optinal 2000 dollar glass top. A lot of ppl dont understand that when saleen gets these cars they are just plain GT's After they are done they are mostly Saleen with very few ford parts left on the car. You wont ever see a Saleen in a ford showroom floor unless they are also a Saleen Dealership also then you will.
67ShelbyMustang500 2 years ago 2
still weights a ton drop the weight drop the weight
saleenxxx 2 years ago
muscle car... not exotic...
gonosc00 2 years ago
its a wanna be muscle car to heavy for me
saleenxxx 2 years ago
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xJackxMeHoffx 2 years ago
Imports are paperweight coffins, musclecars are not. Evidently you are a Honda fan.
danhellerjr 2 years ago
too overrated and also they still seel it ??? sell it ??? or is it out of tsock where is this ?
hohohee1 3 years ago
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
you seem to know your stuff man, question for ya, is it worth buying one honestly? whats its power/handling like?
M3chiron 2 years ago
M3chiron, Yes it's really worth buying a Saleen n feel free to ask me what makes a saleen to not be a mustang.
blackandgold51 2 years ago
Thanks for your reply man, please fill me in on what makes a saleen not a mustang. I'm genuinely interested. How does it handle etc?
M3chiron 2 years ago
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
Finally someone that understands this. I am constantly fighting with my friends about this very same thing. They along with alot of others think these cars are still fords.
Iceman103105 3 years ago 3
Thank u ice man(sorry dat i've responded too late cause i've been so busy)!
blackandgold51 2 years ago
what muffler is in it?
stradguy93 3 years ago
AGAIN,,it is STILL a FORD MUSTANG PLATFORM. All Ford parts removed? You should know they use the 4.6 that FORD makes and slap a Supercharger on it.
Without the great base platform Ford has provided in the form of the 2005 Mustang's all-new architecture and the great cooperation we have received from Ford in the from of early design and engineering information, it would have been impossible for Saleen to have designed and certified the new S281 models in such a timely fashion.-Steve Saleen
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
Numb Nuts - 2008 and above
Saleen s281 -E
Type 4.6L, 3V, SOHC V-8
dumbshit. get it correct.
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
If you must argue, Come correct son.
Saleen, Takes any given Mustang Once an owner wishes to buy it from them.
They take the Mustang*** from ford shipped to Saleen to be Re-maid from the grounds up depending on which modifications they want. depending on which model they buy anotherwords. so no It is still a mustang. just from a tunning companie that has been with ford for years.
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
Saleen is not just a tuner. Saleen is actually recognized by the American government as a manufacturer of automobiles. They build on unmarked, unnumbered ford chassis.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
no shit, how do you think they have a saleen s7
Point is- they have to buy form ford after the V6 and or GT mustang is made. and then take that mustang from the dealership ship it too saleen and then make it.
do your homework before talking smack..
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
well i'm sorry but i think ur hung up on the fact that the car was first manufactured by Ford (which it was). After Saleen reengineers the car, it is a product of Saleen.
A Butterfly starts life as a Caterpillar. But after its transformation, its a Butterfly (not a Caterpillar)
blackandgold51 3 years ago
Thank god, you just said it yourself.
It is a Tunning companie.
I think your hung up on the fact that you cant get around it...
Not matter what They take the mustang and make it alittle more on edge. depending which model - not ever model is built from the frame up..
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
They use to have a shit load more models.. from there website , currently I only see seven types - and mabe 3 different kind in two different models...
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
The
new cars proceeds down Saleen's assembly line. The car is completely gutted from nose to tail. All Ford parts are removed:
Ford OE Transmission and Transmission Assembly Gone. Ford OE Suspension and Chassis, Shocks, Springs, Control Arms Gone.
Ford OE Brakes and Brake Assembly Gone. Ford OE Wheels and Tires Gone. Ford OE Engine and Exhaust System Gone.
Ford OE Air Feed System Gone. Ford OE Front Clip Gone. Ford OE Rear Clip and Spoiler Gone. Ford OE Hood Gone.
cont..
blackandgold51 3 years ago
Don't 4get that a FORD dealership cannot market, order, take delivery, sell, repair or perform scheduled maintenance on
a Saleen product unless Saleen "certifies" the dealership first. A Ford dealership that wants to market, sell, etc. a Saleen product must
contact Saleen directly to begin the Certification process. It should be noted that Certification is not easy, it is very demanding for a
dealership. Not all Ford dealerships get certified.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
Which don't forget is almost every damn delearship. LOL
every single on I've been too, in the showroom is a Saleen mustang.. so nice try.. Never a Roush yet.. but Saleen and Ford GT 500's only on show room floors.
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
Well as i said b4, not ALL FORD dealerships get certified.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
Alright, Well I guess I can agree too that..
But I still have not seen one, without a Saleen on the floor*** it's like there best seller in most cases**
I persoally would rather have a Roush and or Ronale..
oh well.
and yes you are correct there is one Saleen S281-E 302 with a 5.0L Supercharged**
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
And as for the engines that r made from Saleen it's a yes or no Well, yes and no. It depends on the model.
The S281 Extreme and S302 Extreme (also known as S281-E and S302-E) are one of Saleens top-of-line models. Therefore they get the MVP Saleen treatment.
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
The life of the S281-E and S302-E begins, like all Saleen production cars, on the floor of the company's 131,000 square foot facility.
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
No, they actually begin after they buy Ford mustang Gt's. Let's not lie.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
Now that's pretty much enough evidence to say that the Saleen S281E IS NOT a Mustang and is therefore a SALEEN product, same goes with the Saleen S302E.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
No, it's actually enough evidence to say that Saleen is doing nothing more than tuning existing cars.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
You don't know shit. You can't walk into any Ford dealer and expect to see a Saleen in the showroom. The GT 500, yes, I've seen them...again, no Saleen unless it is a "certified" Saleen dealer. Don't tell me, bitch, 'cause when I went to buy my Saleen I couldn't go into any Ford dealer....SALEEN CERTIFIED, ONLY!!!
saleen715 3 years ago 4
you're an idiot and stop comming into an old conversation from another person and I - and that person and I have gotten pasted what your talking about thanks for your stupidity.
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
Ford Factory Fit & Finish Gone. Even the factory Ford color is ... Gone. All Saleens are painted in colors developed by BASF.
The Ford OE Computer Management System is snatched out and replaced by a Specially Programmed Saleen Computer System. Saleen calls it "PowerFlash".
The engines for the S281 Extreme and S302 Extreme are built in-house under the supervision of Saleen Chief Engineer Neil Hannermann and Engine Department Manager Bill Tally.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
So pretty much they do what any other body shop can do if you take your car in and ask them to repaint it and shape up the fit and finish?
Oh and they, like any reputable speed shop, create their own tune for the Mustang and give it a fancy name like Power Flash. MARKETING GIMMICKS, and they sold the HELL out of you!!
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
um no, you're an idiot. lol
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
No, you sir are the idiot. The Power flash is nothing more than a glorified tune. Instead of adding to the codes, they rewrite them using the FORD ECU. A simple...what do you call it?? Re-FLASH. Again, nothign mroe than a glorified TUNE that ANY speed shop worth their salt can do for you if they have a laptop and capable software.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
you are the biggest idiot, I have not once commented about there own ECU that they put into there Saleen models you dipship so get over it.
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
You apparently are a child incapable of thought and understanding, which I blame EMO for. My comment was specific in content regarding body shops and ECU's. How you didn't understand that I don't get.
Anyone that knows anything about cars also knows that to get a true showroom shine and quality look, you take a brand new car off the lot to have it wet sanded and buffed, and they can add metal, remove metal etc... to clean up the look.
But you being all knowing, knew that as well.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
wow, you use spell check.
and think your some one.
ps: little man - i was not even talking too you : my conversation was with another person and was not about ECU's if you scroll down.. so next time find your own conversation with some one. bc- mine was not with you kid.
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
said b4 that Saleen is to Ford as RUF is to PORSCHE.
And what i mean is RUF is to Porsche, RUF is a independent company(like Saleen) that takes a Porsche take everything out of it that says porsche until it haves nothing left(if any) that says "porsche" and puts their own parts into the car that makes the porsche merit it as their own(RUF) creation.
In fact, go to any RUF manufacture or dealership and u won't find ANY name at there company that says "Porsche", jus RUF.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
They are recognized because of they manufacture the S7, and in doing so they can slap you with a marketing approach of saying the build the S-series mustangs because their parts have to meet OEM requirements. They are nothing more than a tuner that builds the S7 so they have manufacturer status.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
I said that the S281E was built by Saleen, but in fact all they do is stroke and bore the FORD 4.6L just like I would do at my local speed shop to make it a 5.0
So, they are STILL using FORD technology and improving on that FORD technology. They don't cast their own heads, block, etc...they simply break down the GT Mustangs engine, bore & stroke it. Just because I take a chevy engine out of my car & have it rebuilt by a Ford dealer, doesn't make it a Ford engine.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
by the way each car that saleen gets which is a mustang, has it's vin number from ford takin out and replaced by saleens VERY OWN vin number (regardless if the car is still registered as its former self)
Plus, the DMV lists Saleens as Saleens not Fords.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
Saleen is considered a VARIANT of the Mustang. Ford manufactures it, and Saleen enhances the performance of it.
The way you think, I could take a Camaro, put a Ford engine in it, slap some blue oval's all over it and call IT a Mustang.
And in fact, the only model that has a Saleen built engine in it is the S281-E...but it's STILL being planted in a Ford chassis.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
So in fact, it is not ALL Saleen parts, the most important part, ENGINE, is STILL a FORD with a Saleen Supercharger.
The reason that Saleen is able to give the Mustang a VIN is because they manufacture the S7 so therefore they are regulated by the fed. They are not the OEM manufacturer for the Mustang sir, common sense should tell you that.
Most of Saleen's vehicles are highly modified versions of existing mass produced sports cars such as the Ford Mustang - Wiki
You're wrong, Nuff' said.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
Displacement 4.6 liters, 281 cu in
Not a 5.0L
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
The S302E is more than just a copycat Tuner version of the Mustang. Saleen
itself is subject to the exact same federal regulations governing automotive design as GM, Chrysler LLC, Ford and various
other manufactures. So as I said earlier, its not a Mustang.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
Further, how can they be an ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER if they are using EXISTING production cars? Again, the reason they carry that status of OEM is because of the S7, NOT the mustang. The only thing they are required to do with the mustang is ensure their PARTS for the mustang pass OEM standards unlike tuner. That is the ONLY part of federal regulations that apply to Saleen MUSTANGS.
chamsdropz24 3 years ago
besides most people obviously dont understand the legal system and who has registered rights to the corresponding vehicle.
Ford has nothing to do with the S302E, nor does Ford own the rights to the car. The cars themselves may have started
life as a Ford Mustang, however once Saleen is done replacing the vehicles OE mechanical and cosmetic parts, there is
very little of Ford (if any) left in the car.
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
The S302E is Legally licensed and manufactured by Saleen (Not Ford) Therefore its not a Ford Mustang.
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blackandgold51 3 years ago
And why it's not a mustang?
Because Saleen is to Ford as RUF is to Porsche.
Saleen is a independent company and is not owned by Ford.
People look at the outside and (based on it's appearance) automatically say "Its a Ford Mustang".
However, the only thing the Saleen S302E has in common with the Ford Mustang is cosmetic parts. Underneath that
cosmetic façade is All Saleen performance parts. There are enough changes made by Saleen to merit the S302E as it's
own creation.
blackandgold51 3 years ago
This is not a Ford Mustang, it's a 2008 Saleen S302E!
blackandgold51 3 years ago
what do you mean OVER RATED ?? what does it mean ???
hohohee1 3 years ago
I have a video racing one of these on my page...there kind of over-rated.. my uncles 1998 vette kept up with a 2008 saleen extreme... check it out.
brandonxd1234 3 years ago
sure pal
ADD8oi 3 years ago
that vid was bullshit they raced for like 100 feet
BDthizzin 3 years ago
also where is it located???
hohohee1 3 years ago
can we get one without glass roof ?? and how much is it ?
hohohee1 3 years ago
wtf with the glass roof?
eclipsegsx765 3 years ago
yall know that those two little silver diffusers on the back aren't the real exhaust right?? the actual exhausts are more towards the outside... but the camera didn't get low enough to see
redrum0624 3 years ago
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orus302 3 years ago
can you buy this .. if you can how much it cost ???
hohohee1 3 years ago
i just made a mess in my pants after those two revs
oRADOo 3 years ago
those two revs..... oh baby
Tiberiusbig 3 years ago
damn.. its better than the shelby
jblackapple 3 years ago
hell yeah its better than the shelby. ha
oRADOo 3 years ago
fuck ,that´s beutifful
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trifarce101 3 years ago
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HMATO 3 years ago