There is not such thing as "explosive strength", this is a made up word used to sell a dangerous idea to stupid people. There is positive, negative, and static strength. This Crossfit is an offshoot of Plyometrics which is another dangerous and stupid way of training for anything. The only time you want to move explosively is if your sport demands it. However, you should never move weights quickly or your body quickly, that is the easiest way to tear a ligament, muscle or tendon.
@1Chiccone Expert commentary on topics with which you are unfamiliar is not appreciated. Most sports require "explosive strength" (actually power). Force applied times the average velocity approximates power ( P = F*d/t ). Olympic weightlifting uses power. Power is strength and speed. If training for power properly, ligaments, tendons and muscles become more injury resistant. Get a good coach if you are interested. This can be hard to do. Personal trainers generally will not cut it.
Now pay attention. If you want to become faster at something or quicker here is how you do it. You go to the gym and train in a HIT like fashion. Yes, the Arthur Jones, Mike Mentzer, Dorian Yates, etc. method. This will allow you to get bigger, stronger and leaner and thus you will become quicker and more explosive in whatever sport you are playing. I am a martial artist and have several black belts including one in Ninjutsu, which is called Bujinkan Taijutsu by Dr. Hatsumi. Again check YT.
People simply don't know there history. Plyometrics, which is something like Crossfit was "invented" by an idiot who new it was worthless, but he also new that coaches in football in the NFL were looking for a way to improve there players, especially there linemen, explosion off the ball. He sold them this worthless garbage called Plyometrics way back in the 70's and coaches, being to stupid to realize the danger involved bought it. Thus, he became rich and players became injured.
There is no such thing as "explosive strength", period. The latest nonsense is the PX90 infomercial. Use your heads people, especially you younger ones. Bodybuilding mags are not research journals!! There is 3 kinds of strength, positive, static, and negative. Moving a weight quickly or jumping off boxes or ladders will only get you injured. If you want to train correctly then let me give you the best advice possible. Read "Body by Science" by Dr.Doug McGuff . Check Youtube for videos.
@Lolercopterz research crossfit a little more cuz we work on "olympic" lifts and technique on a daily basis i have nearly doubled my strength and athletic ability in the time that i have been doing crossfit so you are wrong on both points. I also compete as a amature boxer and cat 2 xc racer so I will continue do my crossfit and improve.
To all of you people who trash talk crossfit, you dont have to partake in it. Do what ever works for you and we'll do what works for us. I have been doing crossfit for about three years and have never been in better shape. And to all you people talking about injuries name one athlete or casual weekend warrior who has not had some kind of strain or injury. No matter what one does we are at risk for some type of injury. Hell you can get a reptitive motion injury from all this typing on youtub
@bcfd505 Crossfit is a good workout for endurance and getting in shape but, if you want to be more athletic and stronger, then crossfit is a terrible workout. Thats why i powerlift
Strength is a big part of being athletic and there are many types of strengths. Olympic lifters are one of the best athletes around in term of explosive strength.
Some skinny guy who does marathons in perfect time is not fit when it comes to strength and power
Athletes have to have maximal strength, power, endurance, agility...
This is the perfect video to show why this "exercise" is dangerous and stupid. This is a take off on Plyometrics and will do more to damage your ligaments and muscles than it ever will to get you into real shape. As a doctor I have seen numerous patients come in after trying this "explosive" type training. Anyone who tells you to move this way is a fool and I predict this kind of exercise will come and go just like all the other fads. To bad so many will be injured.
@1Chiccone I would venture to say that those who are injuring themselves don't have the requisite fitness/athletisism to start a training program like this. Some of the folks in this video look pretty awkward in the first place, so I could see people really hurting themselves. However I'm curious to get your professional opinion on how an athlete can train for explosiveness without "explosive" training. Seems impossible to me.
I wonder how many of these so called experts on CrossFit could actually do better times than actual CrossFitters? If you know so much or your techniques and training is so much better, then prove that CrossFit is weak by qualifying for the games and winning it...
HAHAHA. So true. I remember this February when I started CrossFit. Horrible. Now I'm doin chest to bar pullups with the best of em! :o) Keep up the hard work CrossFit Community!
@madmardygan - As far as kipping pullups I'd say 30 in a row is very respectable. I butterfly kip which REALLY helps me move a lot faster and most of the time I'm much higher over the bar because of the kick at the bottom. Pullup standards vary from gym to gym. Once you get better at them really focus on getting your head over the bar, rather than just your chin. If you ever decide to compete (We have a lot of local competitions), it will help immensly, especially with the judges.
when you finally try a muscle up and fail epically you actually realize how strong gymnast are and thats only the beginning of what they do. crossfit kicks ass in fact mine still hurts lol. crossfitchulavista!!!!!
very good vibes at crossfit. i am in week four of my crossfit and the only thing i keep thinking is...'where have been all my life!' digging it! the only negative i see is that the form is some of the posted videos isn't the best. work on the form people!
@MrBodybuilder100 The main difference between crossfit and regular bodybuilding is that most crossfit workouts are for TIME. This adds an element of cardio. Kipping allows you to do more pull-ups in a shorter amount of time.. therefore you are keeping your heart rate up for a longer period of time. I agree with you, doing strict pull ups works the lats much harder, but that would require more rest in between sets. Crossfit regime is as little rest as possible. Hope that answers your ?
@raphy79 doesnt make sense though, why not do strict pullups gain more upper body strength kip once you can no longer do a real pull up? and then why not try to minimize rest so you gain more endurance at doing pull ups the proper way
@MrBodybuilder100 I can't argue with that idea. I think that would def strengthen your pull ups. The main reason why we don't do that? Crossfit is a competition. So if Joe Schmoe does all his pull - ups kipping and finishes a workout in say 20 minutes and i do mine strict, (which we both agree is harder) then it might take me 25 minutes. So it wouldn't be an apples to apples comparison on that workout... the staple for crossfit has been the kipping pullup to make it fair across the board.
@MrBodybuilder100 Kipping uses significantly more muscles than a strict pull-up, as well as allowing you to do easily over three times as many pull-ups. That means you will be getting much more out of kipping pull-ups than you could doing strict. The motion of the arms is still the same, just like the motion of the legs in a thruster is the same as a squat, you're just killing more birds with the proverbial stone.
@MrBodybuilder100 Its called a compound movement. Instead of going from 10 regular pullups to 12 regular pullups, it will be 25 kip increased to 30+ kip pullups. What does the extra movement matter if you are going on 'The Overload Principal'? It is simply a matter of what you are training for. Something tells me big and strong is important to you. Well keep your regular pullups. If you want increased ROM and muscle performance over a longer period of time than the 45sec to do 6-12 reps, then...
Alright, You obviously don't know jack. Kipping is a way to get more in less time, and a way for those that are weaker to get pullups in. For example, I can do 19 DH pullups(of course, that's after swimmin 500yds, doing 59 pushups and 61 situps, but who's keepin track?) and about 35 kipping. Crossfit is about actually being in good shape, not being big and defined and symmetrical. You have fun bodybuilding, maybe you shouldn't comment on what you don't know about until you try a real workout.
Yeah I know I wasn't tryin to brag on the swim. That's just the test I had to do to get my SEAL contract. I was just tryin to prove a point to MrBodyBuilder an that was the last time I maxed on pullups.
On another note though, bein a swimmer, you got any good swimmin workouts or know any good sites to check? My fastest 500 usin my combat side stroke is 9:13 and as of recently I'm stuck up closer to 10:00
dude you are not in shape. You may look it, but I can almost gauruntee that you are not in actuall good shape. Why don't you go hit the tanning bed and oil yourself up to take some more pictures?
@irocman88 I love to say brah but mostly just for fun .. that dont make him a tool disrespecting folks for doing something different to stay fit is why he is a tool . I love bbing , powerlifting and strongman stuff but thats my prefference but i would never fault someone for working out reguardless how they do it hell ya might learn something new that could improve your body cardio etc looks tough much props BRAH !!!!!! lol yall keep doin what ya do
Fucking idiot-the 'point' of the movement is to get your head above the bar, so kipping actually is the point of the movement. Go back to wanking over Jay Cutler videos and his grotesque GH belly, being a bodybuilder-you probably have the aerobic fitness of a couch potato or as one of my friends likes to say 'a pointless body'.
i have good cardio... kipping is not the point of a pull up the point of a pull up is to train the muscles of the back, biceps, shoulders and forearms, kipping makes it to easy
The Zone diet is about ratios, and portion control. Paleo is about what you eat. You can eat anything while on the Zone. Paleo you restrict a lot of food. That's what I like about the Zone. I can eat what I want, and still see a performance increase, in addition to losing weight. Now, ideally, it would be best to combine both worlds, and eat Paleo with Zone ratios.
Zone diet is junk. Paleo is somewhat better. Good for you for working nutrition in, bad for some of your members for not getting the message. I'm impressed with a lot of what I see here, but I wouldn't call a lot of these people lean.
USMC-interesting thoughts though not quite right. Ideally, we should all be able to do a strict pullup. Using a rubberband assist is better for getting there than using the kip. The kip is best implemented in order to do a greater amount of work in less time. If you can do 20 pullups ... you could probably do 30 kipping pullups; and probably in less time than it took to do 20 strict--resulting in greater generation of power. Neither is right, neither is wrong, they are for different goals.
I'm confused, this is just curiosity, so don't start cussing at me. I was told since I was little to do pull-ups without swinging, and that's how I do them today, is that wrong? I would also appreciate some actual evidence and not just someone saying this is the right way...tnx
Swinging is called kipping and it just gives you extra momentum to get over the bar. Kipping is for those who cannot do pullups and helps them gain muscle to be able to do them by not swinging. I can do 20 pullups without kipping but i have some friends that need to, to get over the bar
kipping is not swinging, kipping is the explosive movement of your hips opening up, the same hip movement you see in the 2nd pull of olympic lifts, or when you jump.
Jizzraeli, you are incorrect. That swinging momentum is intentional. That is an excercise that crossfit and many other training programs incorporate into their systems. The intent is not to do slow pull ups and build lat width. Tendons and ligaments are strengthened here and the abs and legs are employed as well. So I guess she isn't "stupid as hell." Class dismissed
@77bogart sorry as much as you like to sound smart here. When doing pullups the abs, core, ligaments, and tendons are best built around medium controlled movement. The reason for doing it fast is to build fast twitch muscle fibers. The biggest problem with the cross fit fad is that it is very young right now and there is not much science behind it. Working out intensly every day might seem like a good idea now but bodies will start to break down after a long grind when you get older.
@chris71388 doesn't seem to be worrying the masters (people aged 50+) as they are getting fitter and stronger... so cry all you want, rather proof everybody wrong by winning the CrossFit games if it's so easy...
@EvolutionBunny no one is saying that they could beat someone at what they excell at. I would consider myself a decent athlete but i choose to excell at areas that is not covered by crossfit. Just as poeple who do crossfit excell at different areas. Crossfit is a mix of a various level of training methods from climbing to powerlifting to cardio. There is a difference between crying and educating and you just made yourself sound like a total jackass.
@chris71388 No Chris I'm sorry for you. It's not that I'm trying to sound smart in my comment you decided to responded to. I am simply being accurate. Sure I'd agree this also builds fast twitch muscle fibers. However it's unclear why you responded to my comment considering you said nothing to refute what I said. I believe the 20 thumbs up marks under my original post speaks for itself. Chow
@chris71388 It's not a matter of showing pride regarding 20 thumbs up. I was illustrating a simple point (that clearly you did not grasp). As for your attempt at an insult with your accomplishment comment, it was very weak and you're only showing your bitterness. Lighten up dude, it's just an online forum. Good luck
@77bogart unless those 20 thumbs up are from fitness experts and you can prove it than they are just words. Plenty of people are glib about bio mechanics. You truly must live a pathetic existence.
@chris71388 Wow chris you're still hanging around all obsessed with me. Again if you're going to reply please have a point. So now your new lame stance is that those who agree with me must be "fitness experts" or their opinions are invalid. Wow dude you really are a moron huh. Why don't you re-read your so-called insults aimed at me then just marinate on the fact that you're taking this way to personal dipshit. Just relax.
You're looking at it the wrong way. momentum is nothing new. A D1 pole vaulter has to do a variety of olympic lifts, look at the jerk if you want to see! The reality is that work = mv2/2, velocity is squared so you do more work. Anyway you're partly right that flexing really hard while doing a pull up will work your core harder, but only at that spot and this is why flex training has been thrown out, moot point.
@madmardygan i was talking about what is easier and better for your ligaments and joints. There is no doubt in my mind that power moves incorporate fast twitch movements and are really really good for you. I do them all the time. I am a track and field athlete.
@chris71388 So you definitely appreciate olympic lifts, like the jerk etc. Yeah I'm sure that moving faster is going to be harder on your body but the question comes down to is it damaging? Crossfit makes several claims of people who have been doing them for years without incident, which would suggest that if done correctly (key to all lifting right?) they shouldn't damage you. That and the fact that theres 600,000 people doing crossfit with affiliates and much more on their own.
@madmardygan it is still a fairly new brand of workout. Obviously not for everyone. I suppose i just don't get this whole crossfit craze that is going on right now. What everyone calls crossfit I just call my usual workout and then some.
@chris71388 Fair enough. Many like it because of the group mentality but people like me like it because of the results I get. I don't like the pompus attitude some people get with it, and take everything with a grain of salt but I'm almost 30 and I can move more weight and run faster than ever before, and i have 3 different black belts. Plus it's short, and one hell of a rush when you finish. Anything that keeps you active is a good thing in my book. Crossfit is free though so double good
@madmardygan i wish it was free in my area! some of the things you cant do without having a gym and it is like 136 dollars a month for cross fit membership! I totally agree with you though. I am glad you like it.
that girl at 3:30 is stupid as hell. using that swinging momentum is a waste of time it wont do anything for your back or arms. do strict form or stop looking like a retard
its all practical strength, when are you going to find yourself in life in a position where you're like , " geeze, those bench presses really helped me with.........." oh wait, i look bigger.... but im not as strong as i look and i'll gas in 30 seconds..
Been working out for 15 years. Joined Crossfit 9 weeks ago. Had better results in those 9 weeks than the entire 15 years. Trad. workouts are great for most people. I just got bored with it. I mean, you go to the gym, stick your ipod on and never talk to anyone. With Crossfit you feel part of a team. It motivates you more.You encourage each other. I used to think I was reasonably fit, but the first 2 weeks of Crossfit was the hardest physical thing I have ever done.
I come from a fitness background. Thank you crossfit for giving me the results other programs only had with there models. If you do this work out, you will love it.
I am a physiologist and participate in this program. Crossfit is a form of resistance training along with super intense stamina and cardio training. People will only workout if they enjoy it, the ups to this program is the broad workouts done throughout the week, unlike your average "do chest on mondays, legs on thursdays." People you don't have to like this program but don't shoot it down unless you know what your talking about! Just try it and see if it changes you!
crossfit is totally overhyped, basically it is a form of circuit training, people just found a better name for it than good old boring circuit training,it's a way to sell an old idea packed with some new things, good way if it is appealing people and gets their lazy fat asses off the couch, but it's not as miraculous as some people think
i agree, also it gets very boring doing it all the time. their members like to say that every workout is different but it all pretty much is the same except the order of the exercises and reps
Crossfit is awesome! Gave me a totally new philosophy on training. Train like an athlete, not a bonehead. Doing isolation workouts wasted my time. I'd rather have a guy that can do 25 burpees, 20 pull ups, 30 push ups and run 400 meters 10x's by my side in combat, then a guy that can curl 75lbs. Navy seals or marines don't sit and do 4 different bicep workouts, they work on total body fitness, strength, cardio and explosive power! That's the way a body was meant to train!
i dont see why they are constantly trying to do the pullup as quickly as possible. Arent they just "springing" the muscles instead of making them stronger doing the slow (at least 10 seconds per rep) pullups ?
Crossfit is metcon(metabolic conditioning). The fast pull-ups will help build dynamic or fast strength. But the reason they do it fast is more for the calorie burning benefits. Along with the competitive side of it(getting done sooner).
You are right though, they won't build up maximal strength that way.
i am absolutely over simplifying when i say this, but to put it bluntly, training for strength only increases strength. training for this kind of explosive power increases strength, endurance, coordination, flexibility... the list goes on.
and doing just about anything in which one rep takes 10 secs (sans turkish get-up) is clearly a mistake. i cant think of a single athletic or real world application for such a routine.
Thing about the Keppling (SP) Pullups is that they also work the abdominal area at the same time as doing the pullup. While not as good as deadlifts at working the lats or biceps, they do more than enough keppling pullups to make up the difference.
This is not really true. There are different strength qualities. The quality you describe is strength endurance which results in greater hypertrophy but does not necessarily lead to greater maximal strength, per se.
Training fast trains speed/explosive strength; training with maximal loads trains max strength, etc.
I see these people at crossfit using multiple 45lb plates on olympic bars. They're all yuppies and hipsters. I see the same thing at 5:08 on this video. Did he squat over 500lbs? What kind of plates do they use at crossfit?
I'm a firefighter and I'm retired military. Crossfit is the best fitness program I've personally ever tried. I'm putting together a website now for my firefighter buddies and myself to post our workouts, combat challenges, etc.
im not trying to brag but i found it amusing when the women were trying to do 1 pull-up you shouldnt let them swing either thats more of their momentum then actual strength, but looks like they improved good for them better then nothing at all
That's the Crossfit pullup. They promote doing them with a swing. I have yet to see a crossfit person perform a strict pullup during exercise. That's not to say that some gyms don't promote strict pullups, but I have yet to see it...
That's because the default pull/chin up for CrossFit is a kipped one. So anytime you see a video or workout that has pullups in it you'll see kipping.
the kipping is done more mainly (imo) because it translates better into a muscle-up, which is essentially the logical progression after pull-ups. the idea being once you get strong enough to do muscle-ups consistently, you can pretty much faze out doing pull-ups.
dancer, it's not a pull-up, it's kipping. CMy son is a US Marine. The maneuver it used to train recruits to get up and over obstacles or muscle up. No Nautilus at Parris Island! Kettlebells, Pull-Up Bars, Obstacle Parkour Courses, Ruck Sacking...pure CrossFit Military Core Body Fitness. He didn't come out huge and bulky either...he's strong as hell! If it's good enough for the Marines, it's good enough for me.
The kip is utilized because the same amount of work can be done faster. By work I mean moving the same mass over the same distance = the same amount of work. Kipping allows you to maintain a higher heart rate achieve a more profound metabolic response in your workout. Granted you are not isolating the biceps or lats as much, but are utilizing more muscle groups to perform the movement more efficiently. All that to say, I can do more pull-ups than you, and do them faster by kipping.
I think what bothers people is the way crossfit people kip everything they can and maintain that they're doing the same thing or even better. Let's cut the bullshit for a second here. If you kip a pull up, dip, push up or whatever, it's because you can't do one on your own. There's nothing wrong with that (I kip pull ups myself, as I still weigh too much), I just think we should be honest about what's being done, or not done as the case may be.
No, wrong. I can do a lot of straight pull ups, I can just do more kipping. It keeps me working more and faster. Kipping is not for people that can't do a straight pull up, extremely incorrect.
There is not such thing as "explosive strength", this is a made up word used to sell a dangerous idea to stupid people. There is positive, negative, and static strength. This Crossfit is an offshoot of Plyometrics which is another dangerous and stupid way of training for anything. The only time you want to move explosively is if your sport demands it. However, you should never move weights quickly or your body quickly, that is the easiest way to tear a ligament, muscle or tendon.
1Chiccone 11 months ago
@1Chiccone Expert commentary on topics with which you are unfamiliar is not appreciated. Most sports require "explosive strength" (actually power). Force applied times the average velocity approximates power ( P = F*d/t ). Olympic weightlifting uses power. Power is strength and speed. If training for power properly, ligaments, tendons and muscles become more injury resistant. Get a good coach if you are interested. This can be hard to do. Personal trainers generally will not cut it.
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Is this in Vancouver, Washington? Some of y'all look a bit familiar, are any of the people in this video in the Reserves, drilling at Fort Vancouver?
trishadelgado 1 year ago
Is this in Vancouver, Washington? Some of y'all look a bit familiar, are any of the people in this video in the Reserves, drilling at Fort Vancouver?
trishadelgado 1 year ago
@trishadelgado The REAL Vancouver, BC.
OmarBC420 11 months ago
why swing your legs for a pull-up?
radiohasfailedusall 1 year ago
@radiohasfailedusall its the way we do it
CxOxLxE 1 year ago
@CxOxLxE haha i was thnkin it might be for higher reps or geared towards diff muscle groups but hell thats as good as reason as any,
radiohasfailedusall 1 year ago
@radiohasfailedusall haha yeah, they in my opinion are just as harder as normal ones and it works on getting the hips into for more explosion
CxOxLxE 1 year ago
@1Chiccone, you're a fucking idiot.
soccerplaya7855 1 year ago
Now pay attention. If you want to become faster at something or quicker here is how you do it. You go to the gym and train in a HIT like fashion. Yes, the Arthur Jones, Mike Mentzer, Dorian Yates, etc. method. This will allow you to get bigger, stronger and leaner and thus you will become quicker and more explosive in whatever sport you are playing. I am a martial artist and have several black belts including one in Ninjutsu, which is called Bujinkan Taijutsu by Dr. Hatsumi. Again check YT.
1Chiccone 1 year ago
People simply don't know there history. Plyometrics, which is something like Crossfit was "invented" by an idiot who new it was worthless, but he also new that coaches in football in the NFL were looking for a way to improve there players, especially there linemen, explosion off the ball. He sold them this worthless garbage called Plyometrics way back in the 70's and coaches, being to stupid to realize the danger involved bought it. Thus, he became rich and players became injured.
1Chiccone 1 year ago
There is no such thing as "explosive strength", period. The latest nonsense is the PX90 infomercial. Use your heads people, especially you younger ones. Bodybuilding mags are not research journals!! There is 3 kinds of strength, positive, static, and negative. Moving a weight quickly or jumping off boxes or ladders will only get you injured. If you want to train correctly then let me give you the best advice possible. Read "Body by Science" by Dr.Doug McGuff . Check Youtube for videos.
1Chiccone 1 year ago
@Lolercopterz research crossfit a little more cuz we work on "olympic" lifts and technique on a daily basis i have nearly doubled my strength and athletic ability in the time that i have been doing crossfit so you are wrong on both points. I also compete as a amature boxer and cat 2 xc racer so I will continue do my crossfit and improve.
bcfd505 1 year ago
To all of you people who trash talk crossfit, you dont have to partake in it. Do what ever works for you and we'll do what works for us. I have been doing crossfit for about three years and have never been in better shape. And to all you people talking about injuries name one athlete or casual weekend warrior who has not had some kind of strain or injury. No matter what one does we are at risk for some type of injury. Hell you can get a reptitive motion injury from all this typing on youtub
bcfd505 1 year ago
@bcfd505 Crossfit is a good workout for endurance and getting in shape but, if you want to be more athletic and stronger, then crossfit is a terrible workout. Thats why i powerlift
Lolercopterz 1 year ago
@Lolercopterz no, you just get more stronger by powerlifting, not more athletic.. ;)
iLuvHardStyle 1 year ago
@iLuvHardStyle
Strength is a big part of being athletic and there are many types of strengths. Olympic lifters are one of the best athletes around in term of explosive strength.
Some skinny guy who does marathons in perfect time is not fit when it comes to strength and power
Athletes have to have maximal strength, power, endurance, agility...
jukcoder 1 year ago
a pregnant woman doing skuats ... wtf xD
favrobin 1 year ago
Great video, love seeing the progress! Been at it for a year and a half and have seen amazing results.
jlipnos 1 year ago
This is the perfect video to show why this "exercise" is dangerous and stupid. This is a take off on Plyometrics and will do more to damage your ligaments and muscles than it ever will to get you into real shape. As a doctor I have seen numerous patients come in after trying this "explosive" type training. Anyone who tells you to move this way is a fool and I predict this kind of exercise will come and go just like all the other fads. To bad so many will be injured.
1Chiccone 1 year ago
@1Chiccone you only hurt yourslef IF you DONT have a good trainer teaching you in the beginning!
SetMusicFree 1 year ago
@1Chiccone Very true. Ive seen many people develop tendonitis in their knees from high reps like this.
Lolercopterz 1 year ago
@1Chiccone I would venture to say that those who are injuring themselves don't have the requisite fitness/athletisism to start a training program like this. Some of the folks in this video look pretty awkward in the first place, so I could see people really hurting themselves. However I'm curious to get your professional opinion on how an athlete can train for explosiveness without "explosive" training. Seems impossible to me.
jonQuest82 1 year ago
@jiggaboo904 Great story. Cerebral hemorrrhage is consider attempted murder
Blindjohn 1 year ago
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Cornampoo 1 year ago
@jiggaboo904 omg tell me more!
Cornampoo 1 year ago
this video is both awesome and inspiring =) Great seeing people working so hard with great attitudes!
airtexaco 1 year ago
@airtexaco true! great to see beginners improve, very cool
SetMusicFree 1 year ago
6:30
is she pregnant
jessielr13 1 year ago
Insanity all the way!
TizzNasty 1 year ago
CROSSFIT IS RETARDED, DON'T DO IT !!!
alexwi54115 1 year ago
i love it.
jtaeleifi 1 year ago
how much of this is getting stronger and how much of it is just learning how to get reps any way you can?
tbsrunsya 1 year ago
I wonder how many of these so called experts on CrossFit could actually do better times than actual CrossFitters? If you know so much or your techniques and training is so much better, then prove that CrossFit is weak by qualifying for the games and winning it...
EvolutionBunny 1 year ago
@EvolutionBunny very well said.
maxypooh15 1 year ago
those girls suck ass at pull ups
mchong91 1 year ago
HAHAHA. So true. I remember this February when I started CrossFit. Horrible. Now I'm doin chest to bar pullups with the best of em! :o) Keep up the hard work CrossFit Community!
jpjaramilloarizona 1 year ago
@jpjaramilloarizona what does the best of them mean?
madmardygan 1 year ago
@madmardygan - In my case, "Best of them" means the top competitors at my gym and/or local crossfit community.....
jpjaramilloarizona 1 year ago
@jpjaramilloarizona I was hoping more for a number as I'm on the fence with kipping pull ups as well... At least as often as the .com does them.
madmardygan 1 year ago
@madmardygan - As far as kipping pullups I'd say 30 in a row is very respectable. I butterfly kip which REALLY helps me move a lot faster and most of the time I'm much higher over the bar because of the kick at the bottom. Pullup standards vary from gym to gym. Once you get better at them really focus on getting your head over the bar, rather than just your chin. If you ever decide to compete (We have a lot of local competitions), it will help immensly, especially with the judges.
jpjaramilloarizona 1 year ago
when you finally try a muscle up and fail epically you actually realize how strong gymnast are and thats only the beginning of what they do. crossfit kicks ass in fact mine still hurts lol. crossfitchulavista!!!!!
amnieto88 1 year ago
No one looks fit?
rjohnsonjr70 1 year ago
Fit woman
SeamusMuldoon 1 year ago
very good vibes at crossfit. i am in week four of my crossfit and the only thing i keep thinking is...'where have been all my life!' digging it! the only negative i see is that the form is some of the posted videos isn't the best. work on the form people!
bostonkev05 1 year ago
great fucking music, LOVE OAR
conraddavies 1 year ago
I'll tell you what muscle ups are though.
capodencia85 1 year ago
Wow!!! Amazed at the pull up and muscle up progress. Great work folks!!! Gotta love crossfit!!!
PS i crossfit at a globo gym and sometimes with crossfitLIC
raphy79 1 year ago
k sorry about acting like a dick, but still lol why not train the muscles so that you dont have to kip to do a large amount of pullups
MrBodybuilder100 1 year ago
@MrBodybuilder100 The main difference between crossfit and regular bodybuilding is that most crossfit workouts are for TIME. This adds an element of cardio. Kipping allows you to do more pull-ups in a shorter amount of time.. therefore you are keeping your heart rate up for a longer period of time. I agree with you, doing strict pull ups works the lats much harder, but that would require more rest in between sets. Crossfit regime is as little rest as possible. Hope that answers your ?
raphy79 1 year ago
@raphy79 doesnt make sense though, why not do strict pullups gain more upper body strength kip once you can no longer do a real pull up? and then why not try to minimize rest so you gain more endurance at doing pull ups the proper way
MrBodybuilder100 1 year ago
@MrBodybuilder100 I can't argue with that idea. I think that would def strengthen your pull ups. The main reason why we don't do that? Crossfit is a competition. So if Joe Schmoe does all his pull - ups kipping and finishes a workout in say 20 minutes and i do mine strict, (which we both agree is harder) then it might take me 25 minutes. So it wouldn't be an apples to apples comparison on that workout... the staple for crossfit has been the kipping pullup to make it fair across the board.
raphy79 1 year ago
@MrBodybuilder100 Kipping uses significantly more muscles than a strict pull-up, as well as allowing you to do easily over three times as many pull-ups. That means you will be getting much more out of kipping pull-ups than you could doing strict. The motion of the arms is still the same, just like the motion of the legs in a thruster is the same as a squat, you're just killing more birds with the proverbial stone.
EZ2anger 1 year ago
@MrBodybuilder100 Its called a compound movement. Instead of going from 10 regular pullups to 12 regular pullups, it will be 25 kip increased to 30+ kip pullups. What does the extra movement matter if you are going on 'The Overload Principal'? It is simply a matter of what you are training for. Something tells me big and strong is important to you. Well keep your regular pullups. If you want increased ROM and muscle performance over a longer period of time than the 45sec to do 6-12 reps, then...
InnateAmbitions 1 year ago
wow, what good, form...
Hsitmuh 1 year ago
stop swingin on your pull ups u fags, killing the whole point of hte fucking movement
MrBodybuilder100 2 years ago
Alright, You obviously don't know jack. Kipping is a way to get more in less time, and a way for those that are weaker to get pullups in. For example, I can do 19 DH pullups(of course, that's after swimmin 500yds, doing 59 pushups and 61 situps, but who's keepin track?) and about 35 kipping. Crossfit is about actually being in good shape, not being big and defined and symmetrical. You have fun bodybuilding, maybe you shouldn't comment on what you don't know about until you try a real workout.
irocman88 2 years ago
i agree, but swimming 500 yds... lol
thats just kinda funny to me because im a swimmer so we warm up usually around 1500
nice job on the pullups though bro
xxXCOLSONXxx 2 years ago
Yeah I know I wasn't tryin to brag on the swim. That's just the test I had to do to get my SEAL contract. I was just tryin to prove a point to MrBodyBuilder an that was the last time I maxed on pullups.
On another note though, bein a swimmer, you got any good swimmin workouts or know any good sites to check? My fastest 500 usin my combat side stroke is 9:13 and as of recently I'm stuck up closer to 10:00
irocman88 2 years ago
good luck at BUD/S
808bourn11 2 years ago
im in shape and i look good, thank you bodybuilding is a blast
MrBodybuilder100 2 years ago
dude you are not in shape. You may look it, but I can almost gauruntee that you are not in actuall good shape. Why don't you go hit the tanning bed and oil yourself up to take some more pictures?
irocman88 2 years ago
u mad because i can do real pull ups brah?
MrBodybuilder100 2 years ago
ahahahaha THANK YOU FOR USING THE WORD BRAH. That just solidifies you as a tool.
irocman88 2 years ago
never diss the misc brah
MrBodybuilder100 2 years ago
dude you must be 16
irocman88 2 years ago
17, still do more pull ups then you LOL
MrBodybuilder100 2 years ago
good for you. now let's go for a long run or swim, or do some pushups. or maybe box? 17. no wonder you're such an ignorant fuck.
go to the search bar and type dh c2b pullups Only 15 there but I already worked out today. think they count as "REAL" pullups though
irocman88 2 years ago
@irocman88 I love to say brah but mostly just for fun .. that dont make him a tool disrespecting folks for doing something different to stay fit is why he is a tool . I love bbing , powerlifting and strongman stuff but thats my prefference but i would never fault someone for working out reguardless how they do it hell ya might learn something new that could improve your body cardio etc looks tough much props BRAH !!!!!! lol yall keep doin what ya do
steelcurtain1977 1 year ago
Fucking idiot-the 'point' of the movement is to get your head above the bar, so kipping actually is the point of the movement. Go back to wanking over Jay Cutler videos and his grotesque GH belly, being a bodybuilder-you probably have the aerobic fitness of a couch potato or as one of my friends likes to say 'a pointless body'.
pharry4life 2 years ago
i have good cardio... kipping is not the point of a pull up the point of a pull up is to train the muscles of the back, biceps, shoulders and forearms, kipping makes it to easy
MrBodybuilder100 2 years ago
@MrBodybuilder100
The swing is intentional. We Crossfitters do not exercise to show muscle on stage. We exercise to use out muscles for real. Do some research please.
rafalweb 1 year ago
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crossfit? more like crossFAGGOT!!!
IDEASANDINNOVATIONS 2 years ago
Haha you got em! Good one!
vivalasteve07 2 years ago
Good to see peolpe getting out there and havin a go, that what its about !!!!!
chariots3 2 years ago
The Zone diet is about ratios, and portion control. Paleo is about what you eat. You can eat anything while on the Zone. Paleo you restrict a lot of food. That's what I like about the Zone. I can eat what I want, and still see a performance increase, in addition to losing weight. Now, ideally, it would be best to combine both worlds, and eat Paleo with Zone ratios.
aresye 2 years ago
Looks like you all are having some fun. Nice.
haxmya 2 years ago
what is the name of the song?
navyseal182rod 2 years ago
Zone diet is junk. Paleo is somewhat better. Good for you for working nutrition in, bad for some of your members for not getting the message. I'm impressed with a lot of what I see here, but I wouldn't call a lot of these people lean.
p1q0 2 years ago
I think crossfit needs to think about incorporating diet into their program. A lot of these clowns are down right corpulent.
p1q0 2 years ago
We do, Crossfit does a lot of work with Dr.Barry Sears (Zone Diet) and the Paleo diet as well.
EliteSelfProtection 2 years ago
USMC-interesting thoughts though not quite right. Ideally, we should all be able to do a strict pullup. Using a rubberband assist is better for getting there than using the kip. The kip is best implemented in order to do a greater amount of work in less time. If you can do 20 pullups ... you could probably do 30 kipping pullups; and probably in less time than it took to do 20 strict--resulting in greater generation of power. Neither is right, neither is wrong, they are for different goals.
23shamrox 2 years ago
Be very careful doing swing pull up with a bad back. You'll only make your back worst. If you have a bad lower back do them without swinging
tgf76 2 years ago
I am a beginner in CrossFit and this video has given me much encouragement.
Gracias.
leirrondo 2 years ago
I'm confused, this is just curiosity, so don't start cussing at me. I was told since I was little to do pull-ups without swinging, and that's how I do them today, is that wrong? I would also appreciate some actual evidence and not just someone saying this is the right way...tnx
NS17 2 years ago
no your right.... those arent pull-ups just a good way to get an injury.
waterbouy18 2 years ago
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sigesmundninja 2 years ago
Swinging is called kipping and it just gives you extra momentum to get over the bar. Kipping is for those who cannot do pullups and helps them gain muscle to be able to do them by not swinging. I can do 20 pullups without kipping but i have some friends that need to, to get over the bar
PerryUSMC 2 years ago
Thanks!
NS17 2 years ago
kipping is not swinging, kipping is the explosive movement of your hips opening up, the same hip movement you see in the 2nd pull of olympic lifts, or when you jump.
m1kasd 2 years ago
lol looks like one of the most fun clubs to belong too :-p great group of people working hard
Kamelon24 2 years ago
Jizzraeli, you are incorrect. That swinging momentum is intentional. That is an excercise that crossfit and many other training programs incorporate into their systems. The intent is not to do slow pull ups and build lat width. Tendons and ligaments are strengthened here and the abs and legs are employed as well. So I guess she isn't "stupid as hell." Class dismissed
77bogart 2 years ago 29
@77bogart sorry as much as you like to sound smart here. When doing pullups the abs, core, ligaments, and tendons are best built around medium controlled movement. The reason for doing it fast is to build fast twitch muscle fibers. The biggest problem with the cross fit fad is that it is very young right now and there is not much science behind it. Working out intensly every day might seem like a good idea now but bodies will start to break down after a long grind when you get older.
chris71388 1 year ago
@chris71388 doesn't seem to be worrying the masters (people aged 50+) as they are getting fitter and stronger... so cry all you want, rather proof everybody wrong by winning the CrossFit games if it's so easy...
EvolutionBunny 1 year ago
@EvolutionBunny no one is saying that they could beat someone at what they excell at. I would consider myself a decent athlete but i choose to excell at areas that is not covered by crossfit. Just as poeple who do crossfit excell at different areas. Crossfit is a mix of a various level of training methods from climbing to powerlifting to cardio. There is a difference between crying and educating and you just made yourself sound like a total jackass.
chris71388 1 year ago
@chris71388 No Chris I'm sorry for you. It's not that I'm trying to sound smart in my comment you decided to responded to. I am simply being accurate. Sure I'd agree this also builds fast twitch muscle fibers. However it's unclear why you responded to my comment considering you said nothing to refute what I said. I believe the 20 thumbs up marks under my original post speaks for itself. Chow
77bogart 1 year ago
@77bogart well i am glad your proud of your twenty thumbs up. I'm sure it's the biggest thing you have ever accomplished. Congratulations. +___+
chris71388 1 year ago
@chris71388 It's not a matter of showing pride regarding 20 thumbs up. I was illustrating a simple point (that clearly you did not grasp). As for your attempt at an insult with your accomplishment comment, it was very weak and you're only showing your bitterness. Lighten up dude, it's just an online forum. Good luck
77bogart 1 year ago
@77bogart unless those 20 thumbs up are from fitness experts and you can prove it than they are just words. Plenty of people are glib about bio mechanics. You truly must live a pathetic existence.
chris71388 1 year ago
@chris71388 Wow chris you're still hanging around all obsessed with me. Again if you're going to reply please have a point. So now your new lame stance is that those who agree with me must be "fitness experts" or their opinions are invalid. Wow dude you really are a moron huh. Why don't you re-read your so-called insults aimed at me then just marinate on the fact that you're taking this way to personal dipshit. Just relax.
77bogart 1 year ago
@77bogart im gonna take the high road here. keep it classy.
chris71388 1 year ago
@chris71388 Good decision, Take care
77bogart 1 year ago
You're looking at it the wrong way. momentum is nothing new. A D1 pole vaulter has to do a variety of olympic lifts, look at the jerk if you want to see! The reality is that work = mv2/2, velocity is squared so you do more work. Anyway you're partly right that flexing really hard while doing a pull up will work your core harder, but only at that spot and this is why flex training has been thrown out, moot point.
madmardygan 1 year ago
@madmardygan i was talking about what is easier and better for your ligaments and joints. There is no doubt in my mind that power moves incorporate fast twitch movements and are really really good for you. I do them all the time. I am a track and field athlete.
chris71388 1 year ago
@chris71388 So you definitely appreciate olympic lifts, like the jerk etc. Yeah I'm sure that moving faster is going to be harder on your body but the question comes down to is it damaging? Crossfit makes several claims of people who have been doing them for years without incident, which would suggest that if done correctly (key to all lifting right?) they shouldn't damage you. That and the fact that theres 600,000 people doing crossfit with affiliates and much more on their own.
madmardygan 1 year ago
@madmardygan it is still a fairly new brand of workout. Obviously not for everyone. I suppose i just don't get this whole crossfit craze that is going on right now. What everyone calls crossfit I just call my usual workout and then some.
chris71388 1 year ago
@chris71388 Fair enough. Many like it because of the group mentality but people like me like it because of the results I get. I don't like the pompus attitude some people get with it, and take everything with a grain of salt but I'm almost 30 and I can move more weight and run faster than ever before, and i have 3 different black belts. Plus it's short, and one hell of a rush when you finish. Anything that keeps you active is a good thing in my book. Crossfit is free though so double good
madmardygan 1 year ago
@madmardygan i wish it was free in my area! some of the things you cant do without having a gym and it is like 136 dollars a month for cross fit membership! I totally agree with you though. I am glad you like it.
chris71388 1 year ago
how do u recognize a person practicing kipping?
missing front teeth :)
seriously,this jery movement just looks ill.
Krisznyo 2 years ago
that girl at 3:30 is stupid as hell. using that swinging momentum is a waste of time it wont do anything for your back or arms. do strict form or stop looking like a retard
Jizzraeli 2 years ago
dude don't watch crossfit videos if you don't understand crossfit. It's called a kipping pullup
irocman88 2 years ago
Crossfit can get you large gains??? 140 pounds, lean...19 yrs old. pls respond.
Nightermare09 2 years ago
no, hypertrophy training gets you large gains in weight crossfit will never get you big muscles
MutsuKazuma 2 years ago
its all practical strength, when are you going to find yourself in life in a position where you're like , " geeze, those bench presses really helped me with.........." oh wait, i look bigger.... but im not as strong as i look and i'll gas in 30 seconds..
32KOAST 2 years ago
i do crossfit! and karate, i need to go back. p.s. jack shut up about the bell bottoms
wendygirl123 2 years ago
Been working out for 15 years. Joined Crossfit 9 weeks ago. Had better results in those 9 weeks than the entire 15 years. Trad. workouts are great for most people. I just got bored with it. I mean, you go to the gym, stick your ipod on and never talk to anyone. With Crossfit you feel part of a team. It motivates you more.You encourage each other. I used to think I was reasonably fit, but the first 2 weeks of Crossfit was the hardest physical thing I have ever done.
BolanKeith 2 years ago
seriously than you have not trained for 15 years but moved a little bit around in the gym
MutsuKazuma 2 years ago
I come from a fitness background. Thank you crossfit for giving me the results other programs only had with there models. If you do this work out, you will love it.
madmardygan 2 years ago
I am a physiologist and participate in this program. Crossfit is a form of resistance training along with super intense stamina and cardio training. People will only workout if they enjoy it, the ups to this program is the broad workouts done throughout the week, unlike your average "do chest on mondays, legs on thursdays." People you don't have to like this program but don't shoot it down unless you know what your talking about! Just try it and see if it changes you!
SRTMark 2 years ago
crossfit is totally overhyped, basically it is a form of circuit training, people just found a better name for it than good old boring circuit training,it's a way to sell an old idea packed with some new things, good way if it is appealing people and gets their lazy fat asses off the couch, but it's not as miraculous as some people think
MutsuKazuma 2 years ago
Circuit training? I'm sorry, but that statement makes zero sense.
jackgayton 2 years ago
i agree, also it gets very boring doing it all the time. their members like to say that every workout is different but it all pretty much is the same except the order of the exercises and reps
1jaredjacobs 2 years ago
Dig It Guys!
Forging Elite Fitness isn't easy, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun...
Train On!
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CrossFitSouthSide
St. Louis, MO
StLSouthSider 2 years ago
cool gym and cool people!! I would like that!
janeejetzt 2 years ago
Awsome mate - this is what crossfit is all abooout!
welshmogsy 2 years ago 2
This is why I love Crossfit... you cannot get this kind of bonds and interaction at a normal globo-gym (worlds, golds, 24, lifetime, etc)...
Here is natural and true human interaction and team efforts. Pushing each other to reach their personal and collective goals. Crossfit FTW!!!
howardlitt86 2 years ago 13
you got some awesome folks!
dazz396 2 years ago
Crossfit is awesome! Gave me a totally new philosophy on training. Train like an athlete, not a bonehead. Doing isolation workouts wasted my time. I'd rather have a guy that can do 25 burpees, 20 pull ups, 30 push ups and run 400 meters 10x's by my side in combat, then a guy that can curl 75lbs. Navy seals or marines don't sit and do 4 different bicep workouts, they work on total body fitness, strength, cardio and explosive power! That's the way a body was meant to train!
tbarragan29 2 years ago 2
awesome video
edwardgbergersen 2 years ago
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!! would love to open a gym like this.... in Houston... Still working on getting my first muscle up!!!
houbaseballfreak 2 years ago
could someone tell me what name of the song played around 4:10 is?
Thanks
werzudie 2 years ago
Haahh,
i figuerd it out myself, its part of the hole song
"That was a crazy game of poker"
nice song, and by the way nice training
werzudie 2 years ago
i dont see why they are constantly trying to do the pullup as quickly as possible. Arent they just "springing" the muscles instead of making them stronger doing the slow (at least 10 seconds per rep) pullups ?
smoku46 3 years ago
Crossfit is metcon(metabolic conditioning). The fast pull-ups will help build dynamic or fast strength. But the reason they do it fast is more for the calorie burning benefits. Along with the competitive side of it(getting done sooner).
You are right though, they won't build up maximal strength that way.
matthewmovement 3 years ago
i am absolutely over simplifying when i say this, but to put it bluntly, training for strength only increases strength. training for this kind of explosive power increases strength, endurance, coordination, flexibility... the list goes on.
and doing just about anything in which one rep takes 10 secs (sans turkish get-up) is clearly a mistake. i cant think of a single athletic or real world application for such a routine.
bunshine8plutz 3 years ago 3
Parhaps you should try this rutine then you'll know.
Marine475 3 years ago
Thing about the Keppling (SP) Pullups is that they also work the abdominal area at the same time as doing the pullup. While not as good as deadlifts at working the lats or biceps, they do more than enough keppling pullups to make up the difference.
RPK74m 3 years ago
K(i)pping....
howardlitt86 2 years ago
Taking 10 seconds to do 1 rep won't get you explosive strength.
ninjanerd8 2 years ago
This is not really true. There are different strength qualities. The quality you describe is strength endurance which results in greater hypertrophy but does not necessarily lead to greater maximal strength, per se.
Training fast trains speed/explosive strength; training with maximal loads trains max strength, etc.
gwss76 2 years ago
youre wrong.. see crossfit ten elements of fitness..
seaorgmaster 2 years ago
How sings this song?
1jks 3 years ago
O.A.R.
Roostrillusion 3 years ago
Thanks, could you tell me the name of the song at 4:16?
werzudie 2 years ago
Clowns -_-
Malum298 3 years ago 2
I see these people at crossfit using multiple 45lb plates on olympic bars. They're all yuppies and hipsters. I see the same thing at 5:08 on this video. Did he squat over 500lbs? What kind of plates do they use at crossfit?
novice8814 3 years ago
Bumper Plates same diameter as Olympic Plates, different thickness.
AbbotFairplay 3 years ago
Do you know the weight in pounds of the "bumper plates"?
novice8814 3 years ago
Various, all bumper plates are the diameter of Olympic 45lbs plates.
AbbotFairplay 3 years ago
after he squats he says '305' doesnt he?
atomichop 3 years ago
Great job!! Big motivation!! Thanks You save my life. What's the name song?
tomekkorab 3 years ago
Crazy Game of Poker by O.A.R.
jamietallman 3 years ago
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Crazy Game of Poker by O.A.R
jamietallman 3 years ago
The first squat was horrible.
The first clean was horrible.
These guys should never have used that weight because there technique still sucked. Coach Rippetoe would most likely knock you out for that.
Shaolos 3 years ago
I'm a firefighter and I'm retired military. Crossfit is the best fitness program I've personally ever tried. I'm putting together a website now for my firefighter buddies and myself to post our workouts, combat challenges, etc.
marley54fd 3 years ago 3
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Crossfit is like the new curves for women.. Just a bunch of pussies that think there hardcore.
CloudStrife1511 3 years ago
haha! Thats all I have to say....
try it and then say that...
Hackingthebodymind 3 years ago 2
How many Crossfit workouts have you tried?
swinder2508 3 years ago
functional fitness, the best stuff out there.
Icvdilpalazzo 3 years ago
this is a big joke... hahahahaha
dipclip 3 years ago
im not trying to brag but i found it amusing when the women were trying to do 1 pull-up you shouldnt let them swing either thats more of their momentum then actual strength, but looks like they improved good for them better then nothing at all
finegooddancer 3 years ago
That's the Crossfit pullup. They promote doing them with a swing. I have yet to see a crossfit person perform a strict pullup during exercise. That's not to say that some gyms don't promote strict pullups, but I have yet to see it...
intargc 3 years ago
That's because the default pull/chin up for CrossFit is a kipped one. So anytime you see a video or workout that has pullups in it you'll see kipping.
BOFH64 3 years ago
the kipping is done more mainly (imo) because it translates better into a muscle-up, which is essentially the logical progression after pull-ups. the idea being once you get strong enough to do muscle-ups consistently, you can pretty much faze out doing pull-ups.
bunshine8plutz 3 years ago
dancer, it's not a pull-up, it's kipping. CMy son is a US Marine. The maneuver it used to train recruits to get up and over obstacles or muscle up. No Nautilus at Parris Island! Kettlebells, Pull-Up Bars, Obstacle Parkour Courses, Ruck Sacking...pure CrossFit Military Core Body Fitness. He didn't come out huge and bulky either...he's strong as hell! If it's good enough for the Marines, it's good enough for me.
Keep in Kippin!
bbqdiva 3 years ago
The kip is utilized because the same amount of work can be done faster. By work I mean moving the same mass over the same distance = the same amount of work. Kipping allows you to maintain a higher heart rate achieve a more profound metabolic response in your workout. Granted you are not isolating the biceps or lats as much, but are utilizing more muscle groups to perform the movement more efficiently. All that to say, I can do more pull-ups than you, and do them faster by kipping.
shawntheless 3 years ago
I agree, metabolic response is important.
I think what bothers people is the way crossfit people kip everything they can and maintain that they're doing the same thing or even better. Let's cut the bullshit for a second here. If you kip a pull up, dip, push up or whatever, it's because you can't do one on your own. There's nothing wrong with that (I kip pull ups myself, as I still weigh too much), I just think we should be honest about what's being done, or not done as the case may be.
ninjanerd8 3 years ago
No, wrong. I can do a lot of straight pull ups, I can just do more kipping. It keeps me working more and faster. Kipping is not for people that can't do a straight pull up, extremely incorrect.
ando133 3 years ago 2