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  • @Oreceo  <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

  • I see a lot of comments against Shirley and against this idea in general. Jesus really said it though. He also said those who believe in him will do greater works than he did. The Church and the Bible are man-made. Jesus was not., so don't get mixed up here people.

  • Hmmm that's why Jesus said to deny yourself, take up your cross and follow me.... Ans Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life".... Jesus is the on way Shirley...

  • shirley maclaine~one of the many whores of Babal!

  • @grimbattalion ... second in line to your mother, you vulgar monster.

  • @Oreceo If you are all GOD_ Then sure as all HELL, god is oblivious.

  • @grimbattalion  What God wants.....God gets!!! - Roger Waters

  • "I am god"... say, didn't Satan tell Eve she would be like God if she rebelled against His word?

    Satan is telling the same lies only repackaging it.

    And by the way those 'ascended masters', 'spirit guides' etc. are really demons.

    Jesus Christ is the Truth, the Life, and the only Way to the Father.

  • @vizion24 according to the antiquated words in a dusty old book, Satan and Eve had this conversation; but if you believe in God, then you have to believe in demons, angels and magic too because it is all part of the same realm and God said these entities are all there. Just choose your friends carefully :)

  • @vizion24 The Kingdom of heaven is within, I love myself, and so should you.

  • these are blasphemous words from devil .. wake up everybody

  • @sotulis Blasphemous???... To be in Love with God. YOUR words are from the devil!

  • We are consciousness. The Absolute. Without beginning and end. Creator of space and time.

  • Look out gods, there comes a tsunami!

  • 3:10 has her stand up arms straight out and say, "'the kingdom of heaven is within', i love myself"...i watched this movie along time ago and loved it...i loved the part where he has her stare into the flame in the mineral bath...she leaves her body and is floating above herself attatched by a thin string or cord...i have often compared the pentecostals "slain in the spirit" thing with this....out of body experience...

  • I did like her book "Out on a limb", but only the 2nd half was good.

    The 1st half of the book was about her loves, affairs with "Gerry" (actually Olaf Palme in real life) and that crap bores me. I don't care about her bedroom romps.

    But the 2nd half was quite good,  she got to the meat-and-bones of spirituality with lots of insight and good info.

  • Namaste' - The god in me recognizes and celebrates the god in you. We are all one. We are all god. And so is absolutely everything else. The concepts that we accept such as fear, loss etc are only issusions based upon our individual perceptions and in the ultimate reality of god, don't exist. We are like little children who scare themselves when their own imagination gets out of hand.

    So, all is as it should be - if you get beyond your own perceptions and look for the deeper meaning .

  • Shirley has a good book out called Camino.... its about her own Karmic consequence/destiny of this life because of her actions in Lemuria/atlantis times....

  • soooo blasphemous

  • @HeyMony25

    "blasphemous" to what exactly?

  • Metaphorically though, one can feel he/she is God because we are part of Him as we are His creation. For that origin of ours, we are creators as well even if it is in a lesser form; so for some the feeling of being God, could be justified in that sense. However, that feeling was, the one that created the fall in the first place...so, it is something that could be used, "again" as a manipulative force behind the curtains to create in many the false sense of superiority and make them rebel again.

  • To my understanding, we are not, nor can become God for as His creation even as grandious as it is, it remains still merely the fruit of His expression as the Supreme being He is!!!! As in a lesser form, even a masterpiece painting it is not neither can become, the master that has painted it. Or can it?

  • It was no point to blame anyone but themselves, for the Law of balanced couldn't be changed, it was not a matter of God not wanting them back but in their pain, they ignored the Truth of that which could be called an accident really due to their eagerness to be as God. The story continued until God mastered the return of those beloved that had mistaken their way and His plan gave birth to the Cosmos or worlds of matter. A painful way unfortunately but necessary to regain their Light.

  • They were shocked, then terrified and sad and after they got angry and those vibrations took them even further away from the original perfect state of balance, decresing even further the Love and Intelligence attributes; making imposible for them to go back to the perfect space intended by The Creator for existence. This went on and on until they lost their Light=knowledge, wisdom, Truth, Love and Harmony and they became chaotic, agressive and hate was born among them and towards The Creator.

  • That act, changed the vibration of those spirits and inmediately, their attributes lost their perfect balance since they focused upon Freedom, increasing it, in order to achieve their bits. At that instance, the other two attributes Love and Intelligence decreased since those gifts, needed to be in its original perfect balance. When they realized that something had changed in their vibration, they tried to get back to the space they were before but they couldn't due to the Law of balance.

  • The spirits vibrate and at creation, the vibration was harmonious and constant in the Light and Love enviroment The Creator had as the vast, infinite space He offered for the realization, existence and expansion of the spirits He had created. At some point, a group of spirits, searching for ways to express themselves, decided that they would defy The Creator and experience what they felt could give them more exultation than the rest of the spirits and even God Himself.

  • We are God's creations as he created us all at once, as pure Light spirits and gifted each one of us with a spark of Himself which is known to us as the conscience, part of Him and so it can discern right from wrong, always. God is not spirit, He is so much more than anything we can comprehend and define or even imagine. He also bestowed upon each one of His creations, three atributes1) Love, 2) Intelligence and 3) Freedom and these three atributes were in perfect balance with one another.

  • I AM GOD !

  • Ur God, is in the bible. 'before abraham was I am' says jesus in John's gospel. I have written about another perspective on reincarnation and why were here in my myspace blogs under 'highestprecision'. (most recent posts) I am reviewing her book.

  • Reincarnation is not in the Bible, but wanting to be God, that sure is. Genesis 3:4.

    We should all ask ourselves this, have we ever lied? Of course we all have but in Numbers 23:19 the Bible says "God is not man that He should lie". The biggest lie going is that we can be like God or in this case I guess be God. Jesus Christ said in John 14:6 He was "The Way". He did not say we are own way. We have each one gone our own way (Isaiah 53:6) and our way leads to death Jesus leads to life.

  • if you are God, than why do you have NO control over the sinful, disturbing desires in your heart??

    see, you are not God. you are a depraved son of adam. just a selfish, sinner from birth. nothing more.

    plz, repent of your sins and trust CHRIST

  • ridiculous nonsense. they just make up complete lies.

    w w w . mtio . c o m /articles/aissar14.htm

  • @Leiflton like ude kno (LOL)

  • Satanic!

  • There is a God. God is the prime creator. There is a Heaven. You have many lives and you are on a journey of knowledge. All the rest are merely man made constructs invented for the purpose of controlling others.

  • This is a horrible misrepresentation of what Jesus Christ taught. He taught people to Love the LORD first and then others as they loved themselves. The assumption is that people already love themselves too much. This is a lie. Read the gospels for yourself and see if you can find anything like this in them.

  • @3jasonwebb like ude know (LOL)

  • E = mc 2 and mass is all matter....so to me, humans are all a process of energy and light ......everything we see on earth is mass or matter....and we humans are a very high vibration of energy...or light....every one of us has our own vibration of energy/light...our thoughts and deeds are what determines what our vibration or aura is actually...kinda neat to me....makes sense...no more bs religion and mind control by controllers in organized religion and politics....nuff said...

  • I am the walrus.

  • @SpotlightEntrance OOOW ME TOO!!

  • nice scene but there is only one God, not billions

  • @lmorgan1974 : In lakesh!

  • @lmorgan1974 i am god, well thats what people say, probs because of my X Dick ;)

  • @swimbythesea hey man, i'm not like that!

  • @swimbythesea O yes, very modest, Lol

  • are those interviewers human?

  • I so remember this movie and the funny thing about that is when this movie first came out the evangelical polemics had gotten me interested in it and it's theme. :)

  • Geez--I got here looking for a Johnny Winter song "On The Limb".

  • I can assure you neither of them are god. The beauty of acting. What a profession?

  • I want to go to a beach like that and have talk like that.

  • i am jesus

  • @Klostradorez  Cool where do you live??? cause we just ran out of wine....

  • @horuslovechild in the middle east

  • Every knee shall bow and say, "Jesus Christ is Lord"...No other and it is clear God says, "No man shall share his thrown and be Gods"...these Ppl., are following Satan and don't even know it or maybe they do.

  • @nikkiepping I am Satan. lol

  • there are being on every planet. you must believe this. if you stop and think who am i then you would come to this i am out there just like the rest of the planets and if i am here so are other.this is what the leaders want you to think we are not alone and nor have we ever been! the bible tell he story please read it. then and only then would you know!

  • We are sand castles on infinities beach washed away by waves from Sea of Eternity ... 3rd try to post comment ... very short dont know who screening my post but it is BS

  • the soul "c1" light existed before the bodies "M"ass manifested in Bible but what other reference is there for reincarnation ?

  • I AM GOD!

  • "I Am God" is a statement that one is a product or iteration of God. It is not at all an egotistical statement about doing what one wants. Obviously, fastfoodclowns has not delved deeply enough into the godness that fastfoodclown Is. Hopefully knowing that each of us and all that exists is 'of God' would make one know that there should be great reverence and joy in the knowledge and behavior that comes with the knowledge.

  • Oh please your full of shit. To say "I AM God" you are claiming to be deity or divine. Your trying to analyze it far too much. The statement is "I AM God" not

    "of God" there is no ambiguity there it is unequivocal.

  • The Roman Catholic Church was already corrupt before the Council they speak of. Also, the Bible never contained teachings about reincarnation. So no council took anything out of the Bible. There were already too many manuscripts floating around that the Catholic Church could never re-write them all. This idea that McLaine proclaims, "the I am God" so I only have to worry about what I think is very dangerous. More dangerous than traditional Christianity could ever be...

  • i like this very much! thanks for sharing this video! Anyway, I love Shirley

  • some people just can't get over how important they think they are

  • Sounds like lyrics from the Beatles song, I am the walrus

  • all about Jesus Christ forget reincarnation

  • jesus who?

  • A truly beautiful scene.

  • Your page is a construct to assert that there is indeed a personal God. Bravo! It doesn't take much knowledge to realize that. So stick to small pieces of philosophy and stay out of mysticism. You fail there.

  • We are all part of God and, by that very definition, we can say that we ARE God because All is One and One is All. Only the tremendously realized like Babaji Maharaj are capable of manifesting universes mind you, but we all have great powers to create our own reality.

  • Wrong, wrong, wrong. Only God is God. You are NOT God, and the lame phrase "All is one and one is all" is not only incorrect in meaning, but it's also grammatically incorrect.

    It should be "All ARE one and one is all," and even with the grammar fixed, it is still lame as hell and completely incorrect.

    Here is the correct phrase:

    "One is one and all are all."

    Get a clue, chump!

  • being rude and name calling is not something your 'god' teaches is it? what about 'jesus'? the phrase squirrel163 used is so very correct, for we are ALL part of the cosmic consciousness and therefore ALL connected. everything you do, every vibration you send out even in thought, affects the whole. the power of the human mind is vast & when the collective is utilized it has the ability to create wonderous things.

    google the '100th monkey' or watch it here on YT.

  • Excuse me, but please refrain from angry retorts. It doesn't reflect well on you or anyone. Now the phrase All is one and One is All is true for anyone who has ever experienced total consciousness (samadhi). In that state, we are all one. That is why it is a fallacy for a Guru to say that "I am He" and you, my students, are peons. Not true. We are the All and Everything. All that exists- All Life - is Infinite, Eternal, One.

  • "All" is not plural here but COLLECTIVE.

  • A part of something isn't the whole, and a reflection is not the reflected item. Also, if we were both God, we would agree, but we do not and so you are wrong.

    I am not God, and you are not God. Only God is God.

  • I am God and you are God we all our God, religion teaches you to look outside yourself for answers when every answer is inside you. Therefore you are God, your dependence on an imaginary being to save you and teach you is corrupt and irresonssible. And its why humans are in such a terrible state and will remain so until they start taking respossiblity for everything they create and not leave it into the hands of an imaginary being, You are God and so is everyone else.

  • With a screen name like yours, nobody will ever give any undue credit to your wacky, made-up belief system.

    In reality, everything that you posted here is a lie.

  • This coming from someone who probably believes in the bible lol!!

  • You're saying that you "believe" in the Bible?

  • @purush

    if you are referring to "ifuk" then you are correct in the fact that few will take anything he/she/it has to say with that name, BUT (as much as it pains me to admit it) he is not that far off in his statements & i do not find his belief system "made-up". i find it far more likely & credible than theist's belief in mythillogical beings.

    i may not always approve of people's methods, but i am a man of truth, & i must give credit where it is due..

    even to people with dumbass names

  • You have failed to establish with any evidence that any Theist "believes" in any mythological being, so that remains your own made-up personal belief.

    Prove that you are a man of truth by presenting the evidence for your bizarre personal belief, or admit that you just made it up.

  • if i have really got to "prove" that people worship mythillogical 'gods' then you are living on a different planet than i.

  • are you a scientist? how many scientists have you consulted about your delusional belief that free thinkers who do not believe in any 'gods' by most religious definition, somehow have to show "evidence" for the NON-existence of something? for one, that does not even make sense, let alone is it "scientific". besides the fact that your's is a fools challenge because it is un'winnable' for several reasons. 1, how do you prove fairies do not exist? 2. it is unlikely you would ever pay up even if...

  • ...proof agreed upon by a true "neutral third party" were presented to you. there is no way YOU are "neutral" by any stretch of the imagination because it is obvious you are a theist, not only that but i bet you have a chosen 'god' you believe in right? which one is it & what 'proof' do you have that this 'god' not only exists but is the 'right god'?i guarantee you your views are not shared by the greatest & most respected minds in science. over 66% of scientists believe in any 'god'.

  • *...DON'T believe in any 'god'.

  • though my advice to him still stands. in reality, i do not care what he has to say no matter how much i agree with it because of his name...i just happened to notice it when responding to you.

    too bad, he really ought to change it...

  • Aren't all belief systems made-up?

    In reality, are you telling the truth?

  • Yes to both -- thanks for asking!

  • @puru

    by the way, have you blocked me from commenting on your videos? especially the pathetic "$5000 challenge" you have displayed on your channel? you speak of 'truth' & you want proof for the "NON-existence of 'god(s)'", yet you block people (or is it just me) who are willing to present both?

    fine, be a hypocrite...how typical of a faith based creature....i'll just answer your 'challenge' here if that is fine by you, not that it matters if it isn't...

  • Thats gorgeous.

  • I am God! This is what Satan did to Adam and Eve in the Garden! This is what got us into this mess!

  • And if that is true, im sure they said it in the idea where they are dominant abovee the creator. When you say "i am god". You are recognizeing the ceation that God made and not slaping yourself or even God in that matter for YOUR short comeing. I am god means i have a relation to god that was given to me and i have the right to happy about who i am and not be sorrowful and reject myself to idiocracy.

  • No, the term "I am God," according to the rules of English grammar, states an identity with God. Since each of us is imperfect, but God is perfect, the sentence is incorrect when stated by any human being.

    John Heard's character in this video is an excellent example of a worthless "counterfeit" guru. However, the presence of a counterfeit undeniably points to the existence of the genuine Guru, who is very valuable.

    The genuine Guru never says "I am God," and never directs anyone to say so.

  • a "perfect god" would not be capable of creating anything 'imperfect'.

  • God is perfect, and there is nothing that He is "not capable" of doing.

  • that defies logic. perfection can not create imperfection or it is not "perfect". and according to your bible, 'he' created imperfection several times as well as 'his' own worst enemy, yet has not the power to defeat it or 'make it right'. this is not "perfection" by any stretch of the imagination. and one of the imperfections that 'he' supposedly created thought little of 'his' perfection and 'heaven'.

  • Actually, if perfection were incapable of producing imperfection, THEN it would not be perfect. The ability to produce imperfection is a prerequisite for perfection. The natural order is degradation from perfection to imperfection. Things don't spontaneously improve -- they spontaneously degrade and decay.

    Your thinking is diseased and ass-backwards:

    The perfect can easily produce the imperfect, but the imperfect cannot produce the perfect.

  • His thinking may be diseased and ass-backwards but you've got to admit he almost pulled one hell of a Jim Kirk on you!

  • How do you mean?

  • Re the Jim Kirk remark. If you've ever watched the original Star Trek, Jim Kirk has confounded even powerful computers into self destruction with blazing arguments of wisdom.

  • i may not agree with your views on 'gods', but any friend of star trek is a friend of mine.

    peace

  • my thinking is logical, that's why you can't understand it. why would something perfect create something imperfect? if something is perfect, nothing imperfect can come from it. someone once said that bad fruit cannot come from a good tree, and yet this "perfect" 'god' created a "perfect" universe which was rendered imperfect by the "perfect" humans. the ultimate source of imperfection is your 'god'.

  • "Consider all of the people who live in the remote regions of the world who have never even heard the "gospel" of Jesus Christ. Consider the people who have naturally adhered to the religion of their parents and nation as they had been taught to do since birth..."

  • "...If we are to believe the Christians, all of these people will perish in the eternal fire for not believing in Jesus. It does not matter how just, kind, and generous they have been with their fellow humans during their lifetime: if they do not accept the gospel of Jesus, they are condemned. No just God would ever judge a man by his beliefs rather than his actions." from EVILBIBLE dotCOM, you should check it out, but you are against truth & logic aren't you? you'd rather be 'holier than thou'.

  • "I am God!" I know the feeling:)

  • I am God.  Email me shirley.

  • No, what she means is God is one and we are part of it -please don't distort it.

  • Right on. Got a myspace?

  • If she meant God is one and we are part of Him, then she should have said that. What she said was "I am God," and that is simply incorrect.

  • I think thats what she meant. Really are we really going to blow this statment out of porportion.... I think we all understand what she meant....

  • no, she said exactly what she meant and exactly what we all are.

  • How do you mean?

  • just like the clip implies, WE are all 'gods'. and we created yahweh, not the other way around.

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  • i am not a "chistian", i am a free thinker. the evidence is the bible which was written by men. if i were a 'god', & i wanted not only for people to believe in me & love me (notice as a 'god' i would have no need to be worshipped), i would not only write my 'bible', but i would make it so EVERYONE would not only be able 2 understand it but i would appear to my creation on a daily basis so there would be no doubt as to my existence. i would use my power to help my creation, THAT is love. bizzare?

  • You posit the personal belief that the Bible is an authentic source for evidence, but you provide no evidence for that belief.

    If this, if that -- yeah, yeah, yeah... and if you had a solid-gold toilet seat, then you'd feel like a king every time you take a dump, but in reality (come on back down, baby!), you're just taking a dump.

    Do you have any evidence for your bizarre, dogmatic, personal belief system, or did you just make it up?

  • 1. why do you insist on asking me the same question THREE times?

    2. did you not understand my 1st response? you must have me mixed up with someone else, i NEVER said or insinuated that the bible was an "authentic source for evidence". i find much of the bible to be laughable at best. but i must say, your analogy of "dumps" is colorful, though pitiful and disturbing.

    btw-how'd you know i have a golden toilet seat? have you been watching me like those weird guys that hide in porta-potties?

  • How do you mean?

  • could you be any more specific?

  • if shirley really thinks that she is god than why is she aging , why cant she create a universe. you people better stop getting tricked by the new age movement spreading the relgion of the secret societies of the masons illuminati ,the rose and cross ect. They hate Christians .

  • the bible says there is no other name given unto men whereby we must be saved. the name is Jesus. shirley maclaine has the same spirit that the serpent used in the garden of eden.

  • In response to Jesus being the only way we are 'saved'... Well, yes, bc Jesus' message was we are all one (I and the Father are One, and you are my brethren). There is no division b/t us and God. 'These things I do you shall do and more.' It is coming to this realization that allows us to recognize and therefor utilize that power. Are we not all creators? We create our whole lives in every moment with every choice. What limits us is fear, and that is the evil 'serpent', not Shirley.

  • your way may 'work' for you, but it is not THE way. there are those of us that find no need for 'gods' and are limited only by these bodies and the power of our own minds. as a collective consciousness, the power of man. more precisely, the power of man's mind, is unlimited, this has NOTHING to do with ANY 'god' unless you go by the title and the message of the video, WE are ALL god.

  • Let me clear up, I'm not saying that Jesus was the only 'God' or that my way is the only way. Hardly! I think it's the term 'God' that freaks people out bc they're picturing some guy on a throne. That's only 1 metaphor for the unseen force in this existance, the further truth we don't know yet, the rhyme and reason to the physical universe - not only scientific discoveries, but the WHY behind them. My point is, whether u say 'Science' 'God' 'Consciousness' 'Energy' or 'Love'.. it's all the same.

  • "God created us, so He could know himself as 'God'. Before us, God was Everything, The All."

    what is there to "clear up"? these are your words. if you don't mean what you say. they don't say it. if you don't mean 'god' then don't say 'god'. now why in the world would anyone be "freaked out" by your using the word 'god' instead of 'consciousness, energy, or love'?

  • No...I do mean what I say, my point is - that God is not a 'person' - and many use this excuse to discount 'His' existance bc that seems rediculous to them. Interesting dichotomy: that God is not a person, but people are part of God, and therefore have God within them. We're 'self-conscious' so that God can be conscious of 'himself'. That's all.

  • once again i reiterate, that use of the word 'god', ESPECIALLY when capitalized by you, not only deignates an intended emphasis on a singular 'creator', but also assures me that you believe in such. i believe in no such entity in person, spirit, or otherwise. if you mean 'collective consciousness', and that description is too long, shorten it to 'colcon' or 'cc' but my intent is to take not only the word 'god' out of the equation, but also the reference to a supposed singular 'creator'.

  • God is not a he or a she, if God even exist its an energy and its neither good nor bad and we are all a part of that energy therefore we are God, we create everything around us first through thought and then turn those thoughts into reality in the material universe that we reside in, the fact that we create makes us god so be careful what you create and how you use your energy.

  • thanks for the advice, and as much as i attempt to stay positive in a negative world, i find it difficult to take anyone seriously when they have a name like "ifukthedead', but i give you kudos for the effort.

    have a nice day.

    ps-you may want to rethink the moniker, just my advice to you toots if you'd like anyone to actually give a shit what you have to say...

  • Good call!

  • its not my way but Gods way as it clearly states in the holy bible. God will only let man go so far...

  • actually it's the opposite...man will only allow the myth of 'gods' that HE created to go on as long as people retain their dogmatic beliefs and refuse to accept the truth. "god's" time is running out. tell me, would you trust the word of a man that you know lies half of the time? then why do you trust anything from the bible? it is truly the "greatest story ever told".

  • I am surprised that god can only be explained in one book written down by so called prophets, and a few unknown authors. Is that all there is to understand god, merely following one man written book? I believe god is way to larger of a concept to understand than in one book. The book does have many good moral lessons as well as immoral acts in it. It is a good testament of how man likes to portray his own imperfections onto god but it was not meant to be taken literally. The kingdom is within.

  • god isnt perfect god didnt create anything in particular god hasnt been around forever these are all things people attributed to him so that they could have all the answers in one convenient "truth" god is the answer...this is a sad thought it only serves the weak or hopeless people who cant find strength in themselves :(

  • Good Lord...All you need is Love. Stop arguing.

  • What did God do during that eternity before he created everything? If God was all that existed back then, what disturbed the eternal equilibrium and compelled him to create? Was he bored? Was he lonely? God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is complete--it needs nothing else. We humans engage in activities because we are pursuing that elusive perfection, because there is disequilibrium caused by a difference between what we are and what we want to be...

  • ...If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do. A God who is perfect does nothing except exist. A perfect creator God is impossible. -EVILBIBLE dotCOM

  • God created us, so He could know himself as 'God'. Before us, God was Everything, The All. But you can not experience yourself as something, unless something outside of that exists to compare it to. We were created separate from God (well, just to THINK we are) so that we can SEE God from an outside perspective. So that God (US) can experience the magnificence of the idea of 'God'. We are always pursuing perfection bc we know who we truly are, One with God. Your head may not, but your soul does.

  • my parents 'created' me just as your parents created you. i don't believe in your 'god' nor any god save us.

    man created god

  • Please answer me, can some1 tell me where i can dl this movie;0 i would be really happy if some1 told me <33?

  • I am a Buddha,口合口合

  • This SMACKS of $cientology.

  • that guys my dad! haha

  • I AM GOD!...thank you,thank you,thank you.

  • The more things change the more they stay the same.Eve was tempted by the snake (satan) to eat of the fruit, and it will make her like god.Doesn't enyone have any alarm bells ringing here, it is the same temptation only even more arrogant and dangerous saying "I am god" what a joke.

    Some christian doctrines are thrown in to catch people off gaurd with exceptional acting.The catholic church cannot be used to argue for christianity like he tries to about some early emporer.

  • Technically God IS in us all in that He is the creator and sustainer of life, but going from there to us BEING God is silly. That's like saying that I am a tuna sandwich after I eat one. Can someone eat me and then be justified in front of a judge when they say that they were only eating a tuna sandwich?

    There is a transcendent God who created us and our universe, who revealed Himself to the Jewish people 3500 years ago as recorded in the Bible and in the person of Jesus Christ. Do you love Him?

  • God and I are one...but god is greater than I. You weren't paying attention.

  • We are not God. See Jeansilvas' comment and mine to vonlossberg. Not all are one with God. Unless you are born anew by the power of the Holy Spirit you are not one with God. You are guilty in his eyes of breaking his law (10 commandments) and will be punished accordingly.

  • igystrvigy...I'm so scared...I'm gonna go to H-E-double hockey sticks! Oh no, I'm going to burn in the lake of fire! Give me a break, would you.You're just jealous because some people can live with joy and you can't. Mind your own business.You and your kind undermine the power, and the glory, and the majesty of God's love for all creatures great and small...God loves me,my life is blessed!

  • Note that I never denied that God loves you—indeed he does!! I'm more concerned with alleviating your belief that you ARE God. You did not create the universe out of nothing. So ask yourself, where did you get this information of God? The honest answer is that you made it up. I too believe in God, but that He revealed his nature to the Hebrew people, ultimately coming to Earth as a Man, Jesus of Nazareth, as recorded in the Bible...

  • ...The Bible's fulfilled prophecies can only be explained by a transcendent author; so I trust what it says. And while it does say that God loves us all, it also says that God is just and perfect in realizing his justice. And we have rebelled against his Holy nature—separated ourselves from Him—and can only be reconciled through faith in Christ. Or it's us on the cross.

    Look at history. Humankind is desperately wicked, as the Bible says. We Need to be saved—and Christ alone can accomplish that.

  • you are correct, we need to be saved, but not by any 'god'...you religious folk have waited 2000 years and...nothing...how much longer will you wait before you realize that's a bus that just ain't comin'? the only ones that are going to be able to save us IS US! WE have to take responsibility for OUR own actions and correct the problems WE have helped create. if the 'wickedness' of man was created by the devil, explain to me why your 'god' would create him in the first place?

  • flashoftruth, it took 2000+ years for the messiah to appear the first time, so 2000 years for the second time is no big deal.

    How do you clean your dirty toilet bowl—with the water that is already inside it or do you get fresh water elsewhere? Such is humanity—so filthy that no other man can save us. ONLY God can save us.

    Wickedness was not created by the devil, he tempted Eve and she fell, Adam followed.

    Lack of knowledge isn't the world's problem, it's our corrupt spirit.

  • oh, so we should be expecting 'him' any day now eh? just because you believe it doesn't make it true, leave it to a christian to try to make a positive point about religion by using a toilet bowl analogy. again i ask,,,why would an 'all powerful, intelligent, logical god' create 'his' own worst enemy? it is as illogical as belief in 'gods' period. you keep waiting for your 'god' to save you, i on the other hand and taking steps to save us now...

  • Note that the toilet bowl in my analogy was describing you, not Christianity.

    Satan is far from God's "worst enemy." He is defeated already, though hasn't been 'locked up' yet. God's in total control (sovereign), and won't let a few bad apples spoil his loving creation of us.

    From what are we being saved? God's justice. Man can't begin to save from that.

    God is a logical conclusion. Everything that begins to exist has a cause; the universe began to exist; so the universe has a cause (God).

  • "Note that the toilet bowl in my analogy was describing you, not Christianity." oh, ouch...another so called believer in yahweh using a put down to try and make a 'point'. when logic fails, that is usually all you have left. we can sit here and argue the existence of 'gods' until we are blue in the face, the fact remains until i see one, i am by no means going to believe in any; and even if your yahweh were to exist, 'he' is no kind of 'god' i or logical person should willingly worship or serve.

  • The toilet bowl analogy applies to all humanity, even believers—me too.

    "Even if...[Y]ahweh were to exist, 'he' is no kind of 'god' i or logical person should willingly worship or serve." Your statement is very telling. It says that your objections are not intellectual, but are emotionally and morally based. The God of the Bible is absolutely opposed to everything you love (sin). He loves purely, we are bitter. He demands justice, we are under condemnation.

    Only Jesus Christ can save you.

  • well, you keep waiting for 'him' to save you, me personally, i don't need 'him', i don't want 'him', and there are many idications that 'he' never existed either, so therefore i don't believe in 'him' either.

  • "there are many idications (sic) that [Christ] never existed either"

    This is just pop culture nonsense. Mainstream scholars of antiquity (religions and secular alike) all believe he was real and that contrary claims are without merit.

    You're grasping at straws in your rejection of the living God. You might be able to save yourself from many things, but you cannot save yourself from God's just wrath which continues to build against your wicked heart. I was there once too, but I came to Christ.

  • well bully for you! fortunately i, my wife, and our beautiful free thinking children feel differently...and we're doing just fine. we will progress to a level after we leave this earth that you can not imagine because you are caught up in a 2000 year old lie. but live and let live, believe what you want...it's just a matter of time...

    "i can only show you the door, you're the one that has to walk through it."

    take the red pill...peace

  • A verificationist such as yourself demands proof for their beliefs, yet when asked why you believe what you do all you can say is that "it feels right" or it is "just so."

    I'm hardly bullying you, but I'm attempting to point out that you are still living in the Matrix, unaware that Christ is the Red pill. DYK that "Nebuchadnezzar" (which is the ship that rescues Neo) is the name of a tyrannical Babylonian king who mocked God, but eventually came to bear witness of his truth? See Daniel 1-4.

  • "...yet when asked why you believe what you do all you can say is that "it feels right" or it is "just so."" again, not true. the reasons i don't believe in what you do are numerous. disease, pattern baldness, the appendix, the clavicle, the tailbone, the amazing illogic for a 'god', my dead child, and the fact that if there were any 'god' i would feel their presence, are just the beginning of why i don't believe.

    what do you hope to accomplish with all your 'proof'? to witness me? dream on.