As bacteria in the human body, No one kind can claim the body as its own, So too is the case of the earth, as "Bacteria" on the face of the surface, No one kind can claim the earth as its own, We all belong to the earth, as it belongs to each of us, Not just the arrogant human beings, but to all forms of life, bacteria to intelligent, It is sad that we all forget that eventually...because in the end we really are just trillions of bacteria, what makes you so proud of yourself?-Me
It's the worst of tragedies that the world has so few advocators of science and reason like Carl Sagan and so many preachers of ignorance and intolerance instead.
The human race will forever miss you Carl Sagan....hopefully we do not destroy ourselves and instead do great things as Sagan said we could do....Mr Sagan was so optimistic for the future of mankind, and so insightful, intelligent and inspiring...his enthusiasm for the cosmos was unmatched...if there was anyone who could FULLY grasp the immensity of the cosmos, it was him...RIP Mr Sagan.
Mr Randi, I am truly honoured by your reply. Indeed the numb state of pessimism however comfortable is a blight on our potential. It is a common mistake amongst some in science that religion and politics are the only area where prejudice prevails. Science itself needs to and should embrace philosophy, as we should all. To fail to embrace these zones of thought, of being leaves us not firing on all cylinders.
....Personally I dip into Science, Spirituality, philosophy, music, photography and I know I’m only scratching the surface of what it is to be. As Anthony Flew would always have said “we should follow the argument no matter where it leads us”. Here’s to a new year where we are no longer “up for grabs”!
He was one of the few thinkers of the past century who, in spite of being skeptical and critical, chose not to fall in the comfortable zone of pessimism. Also, I study philosophy, and most of the time I find scientists who simply ignore philosophy "because of its speculative nature", yet Sagan appreciated it and used it to question masterfully all types of prejudices in and out of science. Sagan is a unique example of tolerance and eloquence. Thanks Randi!
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Too bad Carl didn't follow his own rhetoric. He is largely responsible for the "mystical" global warming concept. His original papers for his PHD have been thoroughly refuted, and even he expressed consternation in later life. Yet, even after the notion of a planetary "runaway greenhouse effect" was debunked, he couldn't go along with it, because he was too wedded to it, and the ties that bound it to the modern ecology movement.
@Jollyprez I agree. Sagan was a good astronomer, and a great promoter of astronomy. But he was prone to letting his socialist ideology cloud his thinking.
@Jollyprez Listen dude. CO2 absorbs heat. Anyone, including you, can verify that fact by simple experiment, using two sealed jars and two thermometers. Humanity is putting billions of tonnes of the stuff into the atmosphere. Why would you not expect heating of the globe as a result?
Being european I have never been subjected to Cosmos on tv, atleast not what I remember. But seeing this video 2 years ago made me look up Carl Sagan, and watch his shows, I have now also read his books "The Demon Haunted World" and "Dragons of eden". Thanks Randi for pointing out his brilliance to me
Our greatest enemy by far is ignorance. And we have the tools to fight that ignorance, lest we fall back into the superstitious religious Dark Ages once again. Know your history or you're doomed to repeat it folks. Religion has never been the key and it never will be.
I have a feeling that once our species starts colonizing the Moon, Mars and, at some point, other star systems; Carl Sagan's popularity will continue to rise.
Many centuries from now, people will know his name :) because he was FAR ahead of his time
@JoEEll2233 this isn't my position, it's the religious one. The religious believe in eternal conscious existence, I don't. The burden of proof is on those who claim it, not on me.
@weefeatures The burden of proof is on those who believe in eternal conciousness to prove it to you? Why? Who do you think you are? They don't have to prove a dam thing. Besides, you will get your own proof soon enough.
@JoEEll2233 If i claimed there was a unicorn on Jupiter, it would be up to me to prove it. Not up to everyone else to disprove it. That last sentence carried quite sinister undertones, there's no need to get hostile.
@JoEEll2233 "What will happen if they do not provide you with the proof you request?" it's not up to THEM to prove it. If hes making the claim then HE needs to prove it, and if he can't prove it then nobody should believe it.
@JoEEll2233 I'm not demanding proof, I'm saying if anyone makes a claim, the onus to prove the claim lies with them, not with everyone else. If they don't prove it, it doesn't change anything, at least in the here and now.
Carl Sagan did some good work on nuclear proliferation, but he was TERRIBLY overrated as a physicist. Yes - he HAD to have done great work in physics for his PhD and as a working physicist thereafter. But, he lost my respect when he became a tv pop icon. And, then he REALLY lost respect with his ignorant comments about a subject he knew NOTHING about: UFOs.
CARL SAGAN - "Almost no one attempts to educate themselves on the basics of science and technology, yet our society is based on these. TV takes up far too much of our time and is apparently much more attractive to most of us than the beauty and wonder of science. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces." - CARL SAGAN
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no other carl sagan is coming out nemore for at least another fifthy years or could be more often if scientists stop thinking they know it all and no one understends what really is going on in others peoples head, ignorance is been the deseace we were all born with is just a matter of telling you in a way you can almost feel like you are the one saying the words.
These great and humble men remind me of the science teachers in my past education. I guess I had a sort of special relation to them, like we understood each other. It fills me with joyous reverence to hear them talk about the wonders of the universe, the promises of the future, and the ignorance we have to overcome to proceed. One cannot help but feel a special connection to those who understand these contemporary challenges that we too feel are so important. I never knew him, but I miss C.S.
@shackupyourstruly I hear you, but for those of us who value answers, skepticism, and truth, the first is indeed the more appealing philosophy. I have no interest in lies and false promises. That is the mindset more of us need to adopt and we have the means to make that happen. Not in our lifetimes, but we will get there. When the people properly understand the world and the nature of truth, we can transcend the foolishness of ancient mysticism & even the downtrodden will embrace enlightenment.
Carl probably would have heard the joke first (: . James spoke of his 'recent' revelation of the heavy attrition rate of his friends, then cites Richard Feynman and Isaac Asimov, both of whom died before Carl.
What a load of bullshit! more elegant then you could James Randi? I doubt that this video in and of it self is pretty damn elegant. don't sell yourself short!
"HOW DARE YOU PREACH SKEPTICAL, HESITANT, THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS OF MY UNIVERSE TO PEOPLE, RATHER THAN BLIND ADHERENCE TO MY BARBARIC WAYS, AS LAYED OUT IN A FLAWED BOOK WRITTEN BY BIASED PATRIARCHS MULTIPLE MILLENNIA AGO! PREPARE FOR ETERNAL AND INFINITE AGONY FOR NOT ACCEPTING ME."
James Randi has probably done more for the world community then you ever will, bigot.
And why the dogma? Can't you just love your God WITHOUT the ridiculous ancient fairy tales?
Anyone who believes in "god" doesn't know the first thing about the universe. Go back to your superstitions and mumbling in a dark cave. You aren't welcome where the light of science reaches.
@Skyrael17 I'm a brilliant computer scientist specialized in AI, I also know physics down to quantum mechanics and I know mechanical and electrical engineering. and I believe in God.
I have developed a proof that we are more than physical beings and by implication that evolution could not have made us. the proof is flawless. nothing physical can manifest pain. you blindly believe it is physical but try to make a simple robot that feels pain. think my mindless friend. I am the one who knows.
"nothing physical can manifest pain." That's the flaw in your argument right there.
You've phrased it so that only non-corporeal entities (ghosts or other spirits) can manifest (that is, display) pain. Regardless of individual beliefs about souls and such, we clearly have physical bodies. We can also display our pain when we have it. Therefore your argument, as you made it, fails due to contradiction.
"I'm a genius." Firstly, I kinda doubt that. A genius wouldn't have made an argument that a college-equivalent drop-out can tear apart that easily. Mostly because a genius understands how logic and reason work. Starting with the issue of evidence. Until something is demonstrated to exist, there's no reason to blindly assume that the thing exists. Secondly, being smart doesn't mean you're always right.
"I am the one who knows." Sorry, but you've demonstrated that you're not.
A robot would be able to feel pain, if it had a processing unit that could register it. Pain is a secondary, evolutionary process that helps us avoid injury.
@dujl I am quite serious and I am right. think a little further.
it is neither possible in a robot nor needed for evolution. I am a genius computer scientist with mad leet skillz in AI. if it was as simple as you thoughtlessly assume I would have recognized that.
a robot can run away from danger without feeling fear and retract its hand without feeling pain.
pain and fear are indeed motivational for us but we are spiritual beings. physics has no need for such motivation nor ability to manifest
@DanFrederiksen You are not a genius. The way you ramble on is just ridiculous. If you had any merit to your argument you would not need the whole "I am a genius" thing.
The reason you haven't seen a robot feel pain is because robots aren't made like that or advanced enough. I can go into detail why your argument is wrong, and there's no way you will be able to retort. After all, you haven't even made a point yet.
@DanFrederiksen Think about this for a second, what is the simplest lifeform that can feel pain? If you have even half the brais you claim you'll understand where I'm going with this.
@dujl I know where you are going. you are hiding from my proof as the mindless person you are. I suggest you make a change. if you can deal with the robot proof we can talk about spiritual limits by animal size. you wont find fault in my position there either but given the opportunity you will mindlessly move on to the next idiotic point to avoid realizing anything. ironically such obtuseness is a spiritual quality.
no robot could ever feel pain. pain is proof that we are spiritual.
@DanFrederiksen Lol, what a deluded human being you are. Your theory is not consistent. If the ability to feel pain is what substitutes a spiritual reality, then what exactly separates a mosquito from a lizard, from that point of view?
You don't seem to grasp the fundamental reality of what organic life is. Every aspect of a body that can feel pain is grounded in the selfish gene, that replicates itself, where success is measured in survivability.
@DanFrederiksen I suspect you might be compensating for some lack of confirmation in life, by overtly claiming your supposed intelligence. For your sake I do hope you're just faking the whole thing. It is a quite obvious sign of weakness - not being able to deal with controversy in a reasonable manner.
@DanFrederiksen I could pick your pathetic theory to bits, but I know I don't have to, because you ain't got shit to say. You cannot back your claims up. That is good enough for me.
@EliteDoomer I am but a humble computer science genius with mad skillz in AI. but of course you can manifest pain in the physical. I must have overlooked the obvious.
@EliteDoomer good thing you are here to help me with the obvious then. how would you design a robot that feels pain then? should be entirely trivial shouldn't it? bool pain=true; ? or is it a float. perhaps a struct?
@DanFrederiksen Easy, just figure out the codes that sentient minds use to function. Nerve impulses sent to a functioning brain produces pain. Make a machine that has a mechanical brain and send the equivalent of pain signals to it.
@EliteDoomer it isnt' a wish. it's a point. nothing physical can manifest any qualia. unlike you I know what I'm talking about.
a robot can scream as if in pain but never be in pain. same is true of our bodies. no chemistry creates pain as a side effect. function is not the same as qualia. you fail to realize this because you fail to think. you are mindless. loud mouth posing instead of actually trying to understand. you could understand if only you tried
@DanFrederiksen So let's say that you're right about a robot, and how you can't replicate pain. Probably not with currant technology, but let's just assume you're right. How does that mean God exists?
@tigerflen pain for instance. it cannot be done in any physical system. I know it's surprising it could be that simple and yes it means humans are idiots that they haven't discovered this sooner but it is the truth. try to make a simple robot feel pain and you can see.
@BeatenAndTortured I already did but you didn't think. here's one final chance.
a simple robot that screams when you burn its hand felt no pain, didn't need to to do its function and never could irrespective of complexity you add onto it. in all of physics there is no process that has ever even attempted to approach qualia, nothing in quantum mechanics or even string theory. it is not needed in the physical nor possible. yet we have it. ergo..
there is no need for clarification. you have enough
@DanFrederiksen Your example of a simple screaming robot is not that different from how the actual process of feeling pain works. The robot detects the burning and is programmed to scream. Animals are programmed to feel the sensation of pain. Pain is simply a signal that damage has occurred. The robot's detection of the burning is equivalent to our feeling pain, it just doesn't seem that way because we cannot feel it.
@BeatenAndTortured oh good. I was just hoping you would give me your mindless prejudice and completely ignore the brilliant point I was making. my dreams come true.
I'm a genius computer scientist specialized in AI and lightyears ahead of you yet like a flatline stoner you just mindlessly assume you know better and presume to tell me paddy cake idiotic things as if you are correcting me. sigh.
@DanFrederiksen Why am I wrong? You are not a biologist or neuro-scientist with a complex understanding of what pain is. You may be the smartest person in the world, but if history has shown us anything, it has shown that even the most brilliant minds are fallible. Even if a genius computer scientist like yourself cannot program pain into a computer, that is no evidence of spiritual existence. That is only evidence that robots are not the same as biological organisms.
{about 3:10-4:00} It sounds as if Carl is anthropomorphising a bit, because he's describing a kind of depression or bipolar disorder. What's so special about pseudoscience and superstition that make them more appealing than logic and reason in times of 'depression'?
I'm just joking, talking about Cruise and Scientology; those freaks sue anyone who debunks or exposes it. And when he said that Brooke Shields should have just taken vitamins for her post-partum depression, you know that he's really lost it.
I really freaked out when a Scientology building opened up in the next town, with a sign saying "FREE TESTING--" you hear about those nutjobs, but nothing brings it home to you like that, just how crazy they are.
When I was a christian I couldn't stand to hear Carl Sagan's name. Then I realized how stupid and demon-haunted I really was. Carl was truly a candle in the dark.
@Discern4 Same. I actually convinced myself that he was the devil because if you took the G out of his last name and but in a t, you'd see Satan. He died right after I was born, so I never had time to understand him while he was alive. Now, he's one of the mose influencial people in my life.
@Discern4 I don't think you should feel ashamed of anything! No person should be made to feel stupid or even immoral for believing in ANY religion. There is nothing wrong with seeing the beauty that exists all around us and having the thought that SOMETHING must have designed it, even if that thought is just emotion. The cosmos is awesome! The real problem lies in a group of people having an absolutist philosophy that is coupled with moral superiority ...
@Crotchboxer Nothing good comes from religion EXCEPT bring some communities together, besides that everything comgin from religion is wrong. Not even cherry picked morals!
@Discern4 ...who can establish a communication with each other to such an extent that they are completely self contained, there is no need to expose themselves to any other medium besides their own, therefore there is no chance for new ideas to form. This applies to all of us, not just religion. I see a growing trend among atheists to do just that. It contradicts the fundamental essence of science. The fact that you were made feel stupid is cruel and unjust, and I apologize for all of us.
Thank you Mr. Randi. While I adore the work that Mr. Sagan did, and you are doing, I take an acute angle at one point. I would not waste a lot of time on idiots like this apocolypse11 right below this comment. I would rather shoot them and move on.
Carl Sagan is just about the only human I know, who has, or had, the ability to move me profoundly. No politician. movie star, singer, religious leader, or anyone else comes close. His words have been with me for most of my life, since I first saw Cosmos back in the early 80's. If just half of the worlds leaders showed as much compassion, empathy, humility, and insight as Carl Sagan did then I am sure the world would be a better place.
Have you looked up Neil deGrasse Tyson? He's in the same job as Carl, and he's a very good role model as well. Check him out on YouTube, he's got some really good stuff.
As much as I respect Randi, he's making some big mistakes. Ignorance can't be cured. Some people simply don't want to learn and cling to their beliefs. This is especially poignant when you consider the fact that the average IQ is 100, meaning half the population of a modern, western country has an IQ of less than 100.
@bboots100 Go get it now. You won't regret it. It's an amazing book... though I admit I'm biased. I love his writings. Very wonderful and profound stuff, and it reads like he's in the room talking to you.
James Randi and especially Carl Sagan, is/was all their lives dedicated to bring the Truth to the surface and sink ignorance and false beliefs deep underwater.
Media do not help. But anyone can help oneself: just read, study, think outside the box. Never let yourselves be passive.
I can prove God is REAL Mr. Randi. I found the True Location of the Garden of Eden. I found where God left His WATERMARK of it. Make sure you contact me to give me that million.
so at the end of the video, why is this guy saying thanks to a person that is known to be dead years ago? i would like to hear it from your own words Mr James.
did he say we increasingly have the capability to get rid of ignorance? does he still at all pay attention to youth culture and what is going on in the media? and how the education system is being dismantled since years now and in a more and more rapid manner as time goes on?
The problem isn't lack of knowledge, the problem is government. Without government there is no way to use peoples lack of knowledge to do great harm. Reduce or better yet eliminate government, and that will automatically solve all the worst problems.
@michaelpshipley1 Without an elected government, we would simply see the strongest, the biggest bullies rise up to fill the void. Haha, that's what we have. But we can elect new officials. We can change who is in power. We can affect the government.
Humans can't exist without leadership. Humans organize in that type of society instinctively.
Thinking we don't need a government or would be better off without one is denying not only all of history but all of sociology as well.
@blackdogleg True anarchy is a means to shift power back to those whom then can choose what the wish to do with power, Anarchy is not a politcal system in its self nor a political solution as an alternative it is only a means to change politcal systems when the current regime has institutionalised itself fortress like in to a system of opression. Anarchy is'nt extinction it is only the mobalisation of the people in to a militant structure to resist opression in its myriad of guises.
I couldnt agree with u more randy. We must always guard ourselves against such ureasonings and as well as being a realist just because we can not yet prove something to exist now doesnt mean they dont exist, it just mean we are too primitive in our science to detect fine matter materials that's all. With the passing decades we will arm ourselves with better understanding of matter and energy to really see reality they it is. wonderful.....
I really like both these guys, but it was Sagan who said an atheist has to know a lot more than I know, to know that there ISN'T a God. Mr. Randi, you are a smart fella, but to totally dismiss the existence of a higher power is a bit arrogant. Try to explain how life formed out of chemicals, or how we are able to create energy out of mass, but seem to fail miserably by trying to create mass out of energy. Explain the perfect position of our earth in relation to other cosmic bodies.
@joshisyy4u 1) "Sagan is best known, however, for his research on the possibilities of extraterrestrial life, including experimental demonstration of the production of amino acids from basic chemicals by radiation"
2) We do it every day in industry and science. Every particle which is absorbed by matter adds to its mass. 'creating' is the wrong word for it though, you can merely exchange one state to the other.
@aidanjt 1)The far reaches of the universe are billions of years old. To think that some ET life hasn't come up with time travel or a way to transverse the cosmos using wormholes etc. within that timeframe is a bit unusual. Just a century ago man thought it impossible to travel the speed of sound. 2) A particle is matter. I do know that photons are released from very high power lasers, but their mass is even less than an electron, which on all practical levels is considered 0.
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korboismywaifu 2 days ago
Great beard
LudwigLobsters 2 days ago
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@Nemostor WARNING!: There's an unoriginal comment that is being replied to :P
dubtenko 2 days ago
DanFrederiksen and BeatenAndTortured suck cocks!
alextheangry02 2 days ago
@alextheangry02 I can see why BeatenAndTortured would be beaten and tortured.
nuevakl 2 days ago
As bacteria in the human body, No one kind can claim the body as its own, So too is the case of the earth, as "Bacteria" on the face of the surface, No one kind can claim the earth as its own, We all belong to the earth, as it belongs to each of us, Not just the arrogant human beings, but to all forms of life, bacteria to intelligent, It is sad that we all forget that eventually...because in the end we really are just trillions of bacteria, what makes you so proud of yourself?-Me
Carl Sagan =(
VonGunder 6 days ago
It's the worst of tragedies that the world has so few advocators of science and reason like Carl Sagan and so many preachers of ignorance and intolerance instead.
luminaeus 2 weeks ago
Is Randi alive? He looks like he's been dead for a month.
JoEEll2233 2 weeks ago
The human race will forever miss you Carl Sagan....hopefully we do not destroy ourselves and instead do great things as Sagan said we could do....Mr Sagan was so optimistic for the future of mankind, and so insightful, intelligent and inspiring...his enthusiasm for the cosmos was unmatched...if there was anyone who could FULLY grasp the immensity of the cosmos, it was him...RIP Mr Sagan.
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Mr Randi, I am truly honoured by your reply. Indeed the numb state of pessimism however comfortable is a blight on our potential. It is a common mistake amongst some in science that religion and politics are the only area where prejudice prevails. Science itself needs to and should embrace philosophy, as we should all. To fail to embrace these zones of thought, of being leaves us not firing on all cylinders.
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....Personally I dip into Science, Spirituality, philosophy, music, photography and I know I’m only scratching the surface of what it is to be. As Anthony Flew would always have said “we should follow the argument no matter where it leads us”. Here’s to a new year where we are no longer “up for grabs”!
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He was one of the few thinkers of the past century who, in spite of being skeptical and critical, chose not to fall in the comfortable zone of pessimism. Also, I study philosophy, and most of the time I find scientists who simply ignore philosophy "because of its speculative nature", yet Sagan appreciated it and used it to question masterfully all types of prejudices in and out of science. Sagan is a unique example of tolerance and eloquence. Thanks Randi!
HumanError92 1 month ago
Sagan Rides The Dot.
heavenonthewaydown 1 month ago
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Too bad Carl didn't follow his own rhetoric. He is largely responsible for the "mystical" global warming concept. His original papers for his PHD have been thoroughly refuted, and even he expressed consternation in later life. Yet, even after the notion of a planetary "runaway greenhouse effect" was debunked, he couldn't go along with it, because he was too wedded to it, and the ties that bound it to the modern ecology movement.
Jollyprez 2 months ago
@Jollyprez I agree. Sagan was a good astronomer, and a great promoter of astronomy. But he was prone to letting his socialist ideology cloud his thinking.
wrjamescom 1 month ago
@Jollyprez Listen dude. CO2 absorbs heat. Anyone, including you, can verify that fact by simple experiment, using two sealed jars and two thermometers. Humanity is putting billions of tonnes of the stuff into the atmosphere. Why would you not expect heating of the globe as a result?
Bridgmanify 3 weeks ago
Being european I have never been subjected to Cosmos on tv, atleast not what I remember. But seeing this video 2 years ago made me look up Carl Sagan, and watch his shows, I have now also read his books "The Demon Haunted World" and "Dragons of eden". Thanks Randi for pointing out his brilliance to me
crosbying 2 months ago 5
All the world loves Carl Sagan.Carl is nice man,Carl we love you.
krishnadas4x 2 months ago
Our greatest enemy by far is ignorance. And we have the tools to fight that ignorance, lest we fall back into the superstitious religious Dark Ages once again. Know your history or you're doomed to repeat it folks. Religion has never been the key and it never will be.
SteelyTop 2 months ago
Thanks James, Well said.
TigerSmuggles 2 months ago
I have a feeling that once our species starts colonizing the Moon, Mars and, at some point, other star systems; Carl Sagan's popularity will continue to rise.
Many centuries from now, people will know his name :) because he was FAR ahead of his time
FreedomLiberty21 2 months ago
I am a realist, however i HOPE there is an afterlife. I mean c'mon who wants to just NOT exist???
metaldave08096 2 months ago
@metaldave08096 why you should care? you wouldnt exist to think about it.
DNAHacker 2 months ago
@DNAHacker Wow good point, hmmmm
metaldave08096 2 months ago
@metaldave08096 who wants to exist forever? Being suspended in time indefinitely, that to me sounds like hell
weefeatures 1 month ago
@weefeatures What are you taliking about? Provide proof that 'being suspended in time' is what awaits us, and that this reality will be boring.
JoEEll2233 2 weeks ago
@JoEEll2233 this isn't my position, it's the religious one. The religious believe in eternal conscious existence, I don't. The burden of proof is on those who claim it, not on me.
weefeatures 2 weeks ago
@weefeatures The burden of proof is on those who believe in eternal conciousness to prove it to you? Why? Who do you think you are? They don't have to prove a dam thing. Besides, you will get your own proof soon enough.
JoEEll2233 2 weeks ago
@JoEEll2233 If i claimed there was a unicorn on Jupiter, it would be up to me to prove it. Not up to everyone else to disprove it. That last sentence carried quite sinister undertones, there's no need to get hostile.
weefeatures 2 weeks ago
@weefeatures What will happen if they do not provide you with the proof you request?
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@JoEEll2233 "What will happen if they do not provide you with the proof you request?" it's not up to THEM to prove it. If hes making the claim then HE needs to prove it, and if he can't prove it then nobody should believe it.
MCSKeelar 2 weeks ago
@JoEEll2233 I'm not demanding proof, I'm saying if anyone makes a claim, the onus to prove the claim lies with them, not with everyone else. If they don't prove it, it doesn't change anything, at least in the here and now.
weefeatures 2 weeks ago
@JoEEll2233 Just shut up asshole, don't even hear this man if you're this dumb stay dumb
Shuffle2dMax 5 days ago
In the beginning you fail to mention that both feynman and asimov died before sagan? You make it seem recent, when they died more than 13 years ago.
skydome29 3 months ago
@skydome29 13 years ago was "recently" to an 83 year old.
bonwell 3 months ago
@bonwell haha I suppose so
skydome29 3 months ago
Thank you Carl!
Thank you James!
And thank you, All of the giants who's shoulders I stand on today =^_^=
BlankPicketSign 3 months ago
@nxvznx
All you humans look the same to me ¬_¬
BlankPicketSign 3 months ago
Obviously you haven't read any of his work
3092prb 3 months ago
My heroes: Ingrid Newkirk, Ralph Nader, Max Keiser, Stacy Herbert are still alive.
A truly sad day when Nader dies. All nations should go into mourning and lower their flags at half mast.
mphello 3 months ago
Carl Sagan did some good work on nuclear proliferation, but he was TERRIBLY overrated as a physicist. Yes - he HAD to have done great work in physics for his PhD and as a working physicist thereafter. But, he lost my respect when he became a tv pop icon. And, then he REALLY lost respect with his ignorant comments about a subject he knew NOTHING about: UFOs.
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CARL SAGAN - "Almost no one attempts to educate themselves on the basics of science and technology, yet our society is based on these. TV takes up far too much of our time and is apparently much more attractive to most of us than the beauty and wonder of science. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces." - CARL SAGAN
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lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
every time someone brings up carl sagen and how he is dead i always think the same thing. how the hell is Stephan hawking still going at this point?
JellyMan3634 4 months ago
@JellyMan3634 he has a wheelchair
topperheartramada 3 months ago
@topperheartramada what you did there, i see it.
JellyMan3634 3 months ago
As I grow older my outlook changes.
I used to be more "open minded" (and open hearted) but experience has made me more skeptical & guarded.
I used to like deep pan pizza but now prefer thin crust.
iqwaxzi 4 months ago
no other carl sagan is coming out nemore for at least another fifthy years or could be more often if scientists stop thinking they know it all and no one understends what really is going on in others peoples head, ignorance is been the deseace we were all born with is just a matter of telling you in a way you can almost feel like you are the one saying the words.
chukaz1 4 months ago 2
You still rock hard Randi!
DrakeMagnum 4 months ago 2
Thank you James. That was a beautiful presentation.
Souljahna 4 months ago
@thecruxofthematter2 this isn't about sex, it's about trust.
Macca343 4 months ago
charles darwin is right
albert12256 4 months ago
James Randi speaks wisdow here, my friends.
German1184 4 months ago
Carl Sagan was my boyhood hero.
GeneralGrove 4 months ago
i'm asian thank you for crediting my race carl sagan :DDDD
XTruth 4 months ago
These great and humble men remind me of the science teachers in my past education. I guess I had a sort of special relation to them, like we understood each other. It fills me with joyous reverence to hear them talk about the wonders of the universe, the promises of the future, and the ignorance we have to overcome to proceed. One cannot help but feel a special connection to those who understand these contemporary challenges that we too feel are so important. I never knew him, but I miss C.S.
DukeTwicep 4 months ago
Carl Sagan gave me hope for Humanity. He elivates our species.
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HumanError92 1 month ago
@shackupyourstruly I hear you, but for those of us who value answers, skepticism, and truth, the first is indeed the more appealing philosophy. I have no interest in lies and false promises. That is the mindset more of us need to adopt and we have the means to make that happen. Not in our lifetimes, but we will get there. When the people properly understand the world and the nature of truth, we can transcend the foolishness of ancient mysticism & even the downtrodden will embrace enlightenment.
xJoeEDangerouslyx 5 months ago
Carl probably would have heard the joke first (: . James spoke of his 'recent' revelation of the heavy attrition rate of his friends, then cites Richard Feynman and Isaac Asimov, both of whom died before Carl.
marasu66 5 months ago
What a load of bullshit! more elegant then you could James Randi? I doubt that this video in and of it self is pretty damn elegant. don't sell yourself short!
karn33333 5 months ago
to much analyzing separates body from mind.
paperbagboy23 5 months ago
Hunting and farming require much analysis. We'd starve without it. Mind and body are inextricably linked.
shackupyourstruly 5 months ago
I have front row seats to Randi's face when he stands before God and faces judgment
DanFrederiksen 5 months ago
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Npowell01 5 months ago
Yeah, I wonder what God'll say.
"HOW DARE YOU PREACH SKEPTICAL, HESITANT, THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS OF MY UNIVERSE TO PEOPLE, RATHER THAN BLIND ADHERENCE TO MY BARBARIC WAYS, AS LAYED OUT IN A FLAWED BOOK WRITTEN BY BIASED PATRIARCHS MULTIPLE MILLENNIA AGO! PREPARE FOR ETERNAL AND INFINITE AGONY FOR NOT ACCEPTING ME."
James Randi has probably done more for the world community then you ever will, bigot.
And why the dogma? Can't you just love your God WITHOUT the ridiculous ancient fairy tales?
Npowell01 5 months ago
@DanFrederiksen if this were to happen God would run for the hills in fear of Randi and being found out for the fraud he really is.
Redshift21 5 months ago
@DanFrederiksen
You're a moron. Please don't post on any video regarding someone with intelligence ever again. Thank you.
Skyrael17 5 months ago
@Skyrael17 actually I'm a genius. and you are not.
DanFrederiksen 5 months ago
@DanFrederiksen
Anyone who believes in "god" doesn't know the first thing about the universe. Go back to your superstitions and mumbling in a dark cave. You aren't welcome where the light of science reaches.
Skyrael17 5 months ago
@Skyrael17 I'm a brilliant computer scientist specialized in AI, I also know physics down to quantum mechanics and I know mechanical and electrical engineering. and I believe in God.
I have developed a proof that we are more than physical beings and by implication that evolution could not have made us. the proof is flawless. nothing physical can manifest pain. you blindly believe it is physical but try to make a simple robot that feels pain. think my mindless friend. I am the one who knows.
DanFrederiksen 5 months ago
@DanFrederiksen [1/2]
"nothing physical can manifest pain." That's the flaw in your argument right there.
You've phrased it so that only non-corporeal entities (ghosts or other spirits) can manifest (that is, display) pain. Regardless of individual beliefs about souls and such, we clearly have physical bodies. We can also display our pain when we have it. Therefore your argument, as you made it, fails due to contradiction.
BespectacledBastard 5 months ago
@BespectacledBastard not display. pain. not a display of pain. a robot can act. but never have the pain.
DanFrederiksen 5 months ago
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BespectacledBastard 5 months ago
@DanFrederiksen
The definition of "manifest" from dictionary. com:
verb (used with object)
3. to make clear or evident to the eye or the understanding; show plainly: He manifested his approval with a hearty laugh.
4. to prove; put beyond doubt or question: The evidence manifests the guilt of the defendant.
5. to record in a ship's manifest.
To manifest pain is to display pain. And I wasn't talking about robots, just physical bodies, pain and the indication thereof.
BespectacledBastard 5 months ago
@DanFrederiksen [2/2]
"I'm a genius." Firstly, I kinda doubt that. A genius wouldn't have made an argument that a college-equivalent drop-out can tear apart that easily. Mostly because a genius understands how logic and reason work. Starting with the issue of evidence. Until something is demonstrated to exist, there's no reason to blindly assume that the thing exists. Secondly, being smart doesn't mean you're always right.
"I am the one who knows." Sorry, but you've demonstrated that you're not.
BespectacledBastard 5 months ago
@DanFrederiksen I hope you're not being serious.
A robot would be able to feel pain, if it had a processing unit that could register it. Pain is a secondary, evolutionary process that helps us avoid injury.
dujl 4 months ago
@dujl I am quite serious and I am right. think a little further.
it is neither possible in a robot nor needed for evolution. I am a genius computer scientist with mad leet skillz in AI. if it was as simple as you thoughtlessly assume I would have recognized that.
a robot can run away from danger without feeling fear and retract its hand without feeling pain.
pain and fear are indeed motivational for us but we are spiritual beings. physics has no need for such motivation nor ability to manifest
DanFrederiksen 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen You are not a genius. The way you ramble on is just ridiculous. If you had any merit to your argument you would not need the whole "I am a genius" thing.
The reason you haven't seen a robot feel pain is because robots aren't made like that or advanced enough. I can go into detail why your argument is wrong, and there's no way you will be able to retort. After all, you haven't even made a point yet.
dujl 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen Think about this for a second, what is the simplest lifeform that can feel pain? If you have even half the brais you claim you'll understand where I'm going with this.
dujl 4 months ago
@dujl I know where you are going. you are hiding from my proof as the mindless person you are. I suggest you make a change. if you can deal with the robot proof we can talk about spiritual limits by animal size. you wont find fault in my position there either but given the opportunity you will mindlessly move on to the next idiotic point to avoid realizing anything. ironically such obtuseness is a spiritual quality.
no robot could ever feel pain. pain is proof that we are spiritual.
DanFrederiksen 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen Lol, what a deluded human being you are. Your theory is not consistent. If the ability to feel pain is what substitutes a spiritual reality, then what exactly separates a mosquito from a lizard, from that point of view?
You don't seem to grasp the fundamental reality of what organic life is. Every aspect of a body that can feel pain is grounded in the selfish gene, that replicates itself, where success is measured in survivability.
dujl 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen I suspect you might be compensating for some lack of confirmation in life, by overtly claiming your supposed intelligence. For your sake I do hope you're just faking the whole thing. It is a quite obvious sign of weakness - not being able to deal with controversy in a reasonable manner.
dujl 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen I could pick your pathetic theory to bits, but I know I don't have to, because you ain't got shit to say. You cannot back your claims up. That is good enough for me.
dujl 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen LoL spiritual? Don't be such a fucking idiot, live in the real world. You are mortal.
PS: Pain can be explained physically thus it is not "spiritual", retard.
EliteDoomer 4 months ago
@EliteDoomer I am but a humble computer science genius with mad skillz in AI. but of course you can manifest pain in the physical. I must have overlooked the obvious.
DanFrederiksen 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen Of course you overlooked the obvious, you want to think you have a soul when you don't.
EliteDoomer 4 months ago
@EliteDoomer good thing you are here to help me with the obvious then. how would you design a robot that feels pain then? should be entirely trivial shouldn't it? bool pain=true; ? or is it a float. perhaps a struct?
DanFrederiksen 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen Easy, just figure out the codes that sentient minds use to function. Nerve impulses sent to a functioning brain produces pain. Make a machine that has a mechanical brain and send the equivalent of pain signals to it.
Why the hell would you want to though??
EliteDoomer 4 months ago
@EliteDoomer it isnt' a wish. it's a point. nothing physical can manifest any qualia. unlike you I know what I'm talking about.
a robot can scream as if in pain but never be in pain. same is true of our bodies. no chemistry creates pain as a side effect. function is not the same as qualia. you fail to realize this because you fail to think. you are mindless. loud mouth posing instead of actually trying to understand. you could understand if only you tried
DanFrederiksen 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen You love that word mindless don't cha bitch?
EliteDoomer 4 months ago
@DanFrederiksen So let's say that you're right about a robot, and how you can't replicate pain. Probably not with currant technology, but let's just assume you're right. How does that mean God exists?
creamypouf8 1 week ago
@creamypouf8 it doesn't. but you'd have to admit that the spiritual domain is a pretty big step towards it and a huge blow for the obtuse atheism.
and total defeat of idiots like Randi here. hoaxers is just the excuse he invokes to be a bitter old fool.
DanFrederiksen 1 week ago
@DanFrederiksen What evidence is there for any kind of spiritual existence?
tigerflen 3 days ago
@tigerflen pain for instance. it cannot be done in any physical system. I know it's surprising it could be that simple and yes it means humans are idiots that they haven't discovered this sooner but it is the truth. try to make a simple robot feel pain and you can see.
DanFrederiksen 3 days ago
@DanFrederiksen "it cannot be done in any physical system"
I almost overlooked your sarcasm and mistook you for an ignoramus... perhaps you should be more clear when you're joking
BeatenAndTortured 3 days ago
@BeatenAndTortured I wasn't joking shithead. and there is no chance I could be wrong about this. none
DanFrederiksen 3 days ago
@DanFrederiksen never heard of the nervous system?
BeatenAndTortured 3 days ago
@BeatenAndTortured must have slipped my mind. here I thought I was a genius but I overlooked that...
DanFrederiksen 3 days ago
@DanFrederiksen That's ok... we forgive you :)
BeatenAndTortured 3 days ago
@BeatenAndTortured are you borg...
pathetic group mentality. as if there was safety from truth in numbers
DanFrederiksen 3 days ago
@DanFrederiksen
I'm sorry...
I do not understand what you mean... What group are you referring to?
Is it the group of people that believes in the nervous system? I wouldn't think so as that includes just about everyone.
I would certainly appreciate you making that sentence grammatically correct so i can understand it. Thanks
BeatenAndTortured 3 days ago
@BeatenAndTortured you said we.
I wont waste more time on you unless you snap out of your mindlessness
DanFrederiksen 3 days ago
@DanFrederiksen But why not? If I am mistaken about pain, I would certainly like to know where I have gone wrong. Would you please explain it to me?
BeatenAndTortured 3 days ago
@BeatenAndTortured I already did but you didn't think. here's one final chance.
a simple robot that screams when you burn its hand felt no pain, didn't need to to do its function and never could irrespective of complexity you add onto it. in all of physics there is no process that has ever even attempted to approach qualia, nothing in quantum mechanics or even string theory. it is not needed in the physical nor possible. yet we have it. ergo..
there is no need for clarification. you have enough
DanFrederiksen 3 days ago
@DanFrederiksen Your example of a simple screaming robot is not that different from how the actual process of feeling pain works. The robot detects the burning and is programmed to scream. Animals are programmed to feel the sensation of pain. Pain is simply a signal that damage has occurred. The robot's detection of the burning is equivalent to our feeling pain, it just doesn't seem that way because we cannot feel it.
BeatenAndTortured 3 days ago
@BeatenAndTortured oh good. I was just hoping you would give me your mindless prejudice and completely ignore the brilliant point I was making. my dreams come true.
I'm a genius computer scientist specialized in AI and lightyears ahead of you yet like a flatline stoner you just mindlessly assume you know better and presume to tell me paddy cake idiotic things as if you are correcting me. sigh.
pearls for swine
DanFrederiksen 3 days ago
@DanFrederiksen Why am I wrong? You are not a biologist or neuro-scientist with a complex understanding of what pain is. You may be the smartest person in the world, but if history has shown us anything, it has shown that even the most brilliant minds are fallible. Even if a genius computer scientist like yourself cannot program pain into a computer, that is no evidence of spiritual existence. That is only evidence that robots are not the same as biological organisms.
BeatenAndTortured 3 days ago
@DanFrederiksen "I'm a genius" Way to stay humble you arrogant piece of shit.
nuevakl 2 days ago
@nuevakl merely factual. you petty piece of shit
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PortVienna80 4 months ago
G:d is love.
shackupyourstruly 5 months ago
James Randi is the REAL Gandalf!
SovereignStatesman 5 months ago 2
{about 3:10-4:00} It sounds as if Carl is anthropomorphising a bit, because he's describing a kind of depression or bipolar disorder. What's so special about pseudoscience and superstition that make them more appealing than logic and reason in times of 'depression'?
marasu66 5 months ago
Instead of "Let's find some answers," it's "I have the answers." Which would seem more appealing in times of civil depression?
shackupyourstruly 5 months ago
I dont understand what Randi did to TOM CRUISE ? Can I get imformation on that pls.... confuzed.
johnanthonykielb 5 months ago
"Asians expected that they should receive PERFECT GRADES."
Yeah... the exceptions to the 2 billion Asians still living in the fucking STONE-AGE.
SovereignStatesman 5 months ago
@SovereignStatesman
Where in Asia are people living in the Stone age?
kitchenaut 5 months ago
@kitchenaut
Your ignorance is notwithstanding.
SovereignStatesman 5 months ago
god is logic , theoreticalphysics.webs.com
paginipro 5 months ago
@paginipro
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
asdsdsdsadsadsadasds 5 months ago
@asdsdsdsadsadsadasds what do you mean aha? the rock band aha
paginipro 5 months ago
i am real james randi you are face james randi
krishnadas4x 5 months ago
James Randi has had legal problems stemming from [ CHARACTER DEFAMATION OF PEOPLE ] ! HA HA HA RANDI ! LOL !
johnanthonykielb 5 months ago
@johnanthonykielb
He never should have fucked with Tom Cruise LOL
SovereignStatesman 5 months ago
@SovereignStatesman
What did Randy do to Cruise ? Something similar to what Randi did in the 70s to the fucking fraudulent Uri Geller ?
Randi, Dawkins and Sagan are heroes of Humanity. They have stood against religions and their superstions.
powerdriller10 5 months ago
@powerdriller10
I'm just joking, talking about Cruise and Scientology; those freaks sue anyone who debunks or exposes it. And when he said that Brooke Shields should have just taken vitamins for her post-partum depression, you know that he's really lost it.
I really freaked out when a Scientology building opened up in the next town, with a sign saying "FREE TESTING--" you hear about those nutjobs, but nothing brings it home to you like that, just how crazy they are.
SovereignStatesman 5 months ago
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You're old. And you're boring. Need I bother to say more?
JeffersonDinedAlone 5 months ago
Randi should done a long white robe, walk into a random church, and shout "I am the Alpha and the Omega..."
Wezli333 5 months ago
didn't know he was dead till just then...
Mistersamsam 6 months ago
@Mistersamsam
Yeah, the movie "Contact" was only DEDICATED to him, since he wrote the book.
SovereignStatesman 5 months ago
When I was a christian I couldn't stand to hear Carl Sagan's name. Then I realized how stupid and demon-haunted I really was. Carl was truly a candle in the dark.
Discern4 6 months ago 86
@Discern4 Same. I actually convinced myself that he was the devil because if you took the G out of his last name and but in a t, you'd see Satan. He died right after I was born, so I never had time to understand him while he was alive. Now, he's one of the mose influencial people in my life.
kidkong584 4 months ago 17
@kidkong584 Out of curiosity have you ever thought about the Satan-Santa? XD
raydredX 3 weeks ago
@Discern4 noone knows
nontrashfire2 4 months ago
@Discern4 I don't think you should feel ashamed of anything! No person should be made to feel stupid or even immoral for believing in ANY religion. There is nothing wrong with seeing the beauty that exists all around us and having the thought that SOMETHING must have designed it, even if that thought is just emotion. The cosmos is awesome! The real problem lies in a group of people having an absolutist philosophy that is coupled with moral superiority ...
Crotchboxer 4 months ago
@Crotchboxer Nothing good comes from religion EXCEPT bring some communities together, besides that everything comgin from religion is wrong. Not even cherry picked morals!
tankusfred 2 months ago
@Discern4 ...who can establish a communication with each other to such an extent that they are completely self contained, there is no need to expose themselves to any other medium besides their own, therefore there is no chance for new ideas to form. This applies to all of us, not just religion. I see a growing trend among atheists to do just that. It contradicts the fundamental essence of science. The fact that you were made feel stupid is cruel and unjust, and I apologize for all of us.
Crotchboxer 4 months ago
Thank you Mr. Randi. While I adore the work that Mr. Sagan did, and you are doing, I take an acute angle at one point. I would not waste a lot of time on idiots like this apocolypse11 right below this comment. I would rather shoot them and move on.
BobbyWarrenMiller 6 months ago 6
Carl Sagen believes the Universe is flat. lol
apocolypse11 6 months ago
Carl Sagan is just about the only human I know, who has, or had, the ability to move me profoundly. No politician. movie star, singer, religious leader, or anyone else comes close. His words have been with me for most of my life, since I first saw Cosmos back in the early 80's. If just half of the worlds leaders showed as much compassion, empathy, humility, and insight as Carl Sagan did then I am sure the world would be a better place.
Squallfie66 6 months ago 91
@Squallfie66
Have you looked up Neil deGrasse Tyson? He's in the same job as Carl, and he's a very good role model as well. Check him out on YouTube, he's got some really good stuff.
Xeno426 5 months ago
@Squallfie66 I wish there were another Carl Sagan. He's like a modern Buddha but better.
RuinSonic 4 months ago
As much as I respect Randi, he's making some big mistakes. Ignorance can't be cured. Some people simply don't want to learn and cling to their beliefs. This is especially poignant when you consider the fact that the average IQ is 100, meaning half the population of a modern, western country has an IQ of less than 100.
ChudFapper 6 months ago
I have not read 'The Demon Haunted World' but I now plan on getting a copy. Thanks for your most excellent commentary!
bboots100 6 months ago 2
@bboots100 Go get it now. You won't regret it. It's an amazing book... though I admit I'm biased. I love his writings. Very wonderful and profound stuff, and it reads like he's in the room talking to you.
Vhurex 6 months ago 2
i want this to be said at my eulogy, only about me,when i die.
casperghozd 6 months ago
If Jesus were real, Carl would be in heaven despite being agnostic/atheist.
Zentz29 6 months ago
Dr. Sagan's work had (and still has) such a positive impact on everyone. What a great man.
ikezao1 6 months ago 2
I love Carl and miss him so :(
jeembomb 6 months ago 2
James Randi and especially Carl Sagan, is/was all their lives dedicated to bring the Truth to the surface and sink ignorance and false beliefs deep underwater.
Media do not help. But anyone can help oneself: just read, study, think outside the box. Never let yourselves be passive.
@Estebanfuturo: you really don't get it do you?
Faria313 6 months ago 2
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I can prove God is REAL Mr. Randi. I found the True Location of the Garden of Eden. I found where God left His WATERMARK of it. Make sure you contact me to give me that million.
downyourtube 7 months ago
so at the end of the video, why is this guy saying thanks to a person that is known to be dead years ago? i would like to hear it from your own words Mr James.
Estebanfuturo 7 months ago
did he say we increasingly have the capability to get rid of ignorance? does he still at all pay attention to youth culture and what is going on in the media? and how the education system is being dismantled since years now and in a more and more rapid manner as time goes on?
notthere83 7 months ago
...stimmit genau !!!...
ALDONE44 7 months ago
Carl Sagan was great.
Thule000 7 months ago 4
The problem isn't lack of knowledge, the problem is government. Without government there is no way to use peoples lack of knowledge to do great harm. Reduce or better yet eliminate government, and that will automatically solve all the worst problems.
michaelpshipley1 7 months ago
@michaelpshipley1 Without an elected government, we would simply see the strongest, the biggest bullies rise up to fill the void. Haha, that's what we have. But we can elect new officials. We can change who is in power. We can affect the government.
Humans can't exist without leadership. Humans organize in that type of society instinctively.
Thinking we don't need a government or would be better off without one is denying not only all of history but all of sociology as well.
crazytuffie 7 months ago
@crazytuffie it´s the best system we have. anarchy is extinction @michaelpshipley1
blackdogleg 7 months ago
@blackdogleg True anarchy is a means to shift power back to those whom then can choose what the wish to do with power, Anarchy is not a politcal system in its self nor a political solution as an alternative it is only a means to change politcal systems when the current regime has institutionalised itself fortress like in to a system of opression. Anarchy is'nt extinction it is only the mobalisation of the people in to a militant structure to resist opression in its myriad of guises.
DARTHMOBIUS 7 months ago
Great words, thanks for uploading.
Kariakas 7 months ago
4:32 - 4:41 Perfect for quote mining!
AapoJoki 7 months ago
If science had saints, Dr. Sagan would certainly be one.
thenekom 7 months ago 4
@thenekom then agai Science aint a religion so....well, I think he deserves a Nobel.
ImAnotherZang 7 months ago
@thenekom So true and he didn't have anyone burnt at the stake, flayed or murdered either.
MrShortfastloud 7 months ago
I couldnt agree with u more randy. We must always guard ourselves against such ureasonings and as well as being a realist just because we can not yet prove something to exist now doesnt mean they dont exist, it just mean we are too primitive in our science to detect fine matter materials that's all. With the passing decades we will arm ourselves with better understanding of matter and energy to really see reality they it is. wonderful.....
kuvceebxab1 7 months ago
I really like both these guys, but it was Sagan who said an atheist has to know a lot more than I know, to know that there ISN'T a God. Mr. Randi, you are a smart fella, but to totally dismiss the existence of a higher power is a bit arrogant. Try to explain how life formed out of chemicals, or how we are able to create energy out of mass, but seem to fail miserably by trying to create mass out of energy. Explain the perfect position of our earth in relation to other cosmic bodies.
joshisyy4u 7 months ago
@joshisyy4u 1) "Sagan is best known, however, for his research on the possibilities of extraterrestrial life, including experimental demonstration of the production of amino acids from basic chemicals by radiation"
2) We do it every day in industry and science. Every particle which is absorbed by matter adds to its mass. 'creating' is the wrong word for it though, you can merely exchange one state to the other.
aidanjt 7 months ago
@aidanjt 1)The far reaches of the universe are billions of years old. To think that some ET life hasn't come up with time travel or a way to transverse the cosmos using wormholes etc. within that timeframe is a bit unusual. Just a century ago man thought it impossible to travel the speed of sound. 2) A particle is matter. I do know that photons are released from very high power lasers, but their mass is even less than an electron, which on all practical levels is considered 0.
joshisyy4u 7 months ago
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