Hay bro. forget the weld prob And think about how poisonous That Galvanized metal you Well I hope you didn't Inhale. I have welded sense 21 yrs. old Im 43 now and Im sure that was Galvanized metal. The support legs on the stove !
What you could do to increase efficiency, is have the copper coils on the inside, Wood doesn't burn hot enough to melt the copper pipe unless ducted. As for the welds, practise makes perfect. Tt may not be pretty, but if it holds, what more do you want in a garage stove?
i had this idea about 5 years ago (some differences) but its nice to see some of my ideas being put to use ;) i scraped that idea and just put the stove inside and ran a tall stack outside to vent it properly...... never had any problems with smoke inside..... hot as all hell though!
@82raptor well there was a few reasons why i chose to do this system, aside from smoke in the garage, there is also a greater fire hazard and the possibility of CO poisoning, and also the space it takes up. watch version two and you will see how little space it takes up. thanks for checking it out!
@TheUtubeEngineer dont get me wrong man i LIKE your idea! i have moved since i had that same idea but iam thinking of using your design for next winter! how do you manage pressure in the system though? i was thinking a radiator cap (15psi) and if and when it boils over it goes into a catch can. how does your fiberglass insulation hold up in the elements? i used a product called "cerwool" basically ceramic wool to keep the stack from burning things. keep in touch please!
Nice system the radiator and fans is great idea. Have you thought of using the 12 volt thermo fan switch to control fans or pump? Keep inventing and posting!
Every time heat is exchanged you lose lots of potential energy so why not use the stove in the garage and put a pedastal fan close by to circulate the heat. much simpler
kool! Have u thought about adding more copper on the outside of the boiler and maybe a removable u bend or coil down the chimney to bump up the eficiency bet theres masses of heat wasted out of there also a thermal paste between the steel and copper. if heating the water is th main function as opose to heating your room n heating water as a extra. those mods could half ur wood consumption plus you wouldnt have go outside to top it up so often and let all the heat out of the house lol. nice work
very nice idea, I want to build a stainless box 4' wide 4' long and 6' high and take stainless sch 40 3/4" pipe put it in the top and put my grate in the bottom for fire wood bring the line outside the box to a pump to pump it to my coil in the house but before it gets to the house put a nipple in the top of the line and put a expasion tank to about 2' above the highest point of the system leave it open and no need for a relief valve thats part of my idea and use glycol.
OK BUT WHY NOT PUT THE COIL INSIDE THE UNIT?? JUST MAKE SURE YOU USE A PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE AND FILL THE TUBE WITH ANTIFREEZE AS IT EXCHANGES HEAT BETTER THAN H20. OR....SAND THE OUTSIDE AND TACK SILVER SOLDER THE COIL EVERY 1/4 TURN TO UP THE CONTACT.
Great job!!! I've been thinking of doing something similar for a while, you've given me some great ideas. I have a dead minivan to get the radiator from and a barrel. Now I just need to get the tube & a pump. Keep having fun!
Very cool. I would add some vents on that door and also cement some braided stove gasket rope so the door will close super tight and help prevent "puff backs" for inside usage. I think as long as the welds hold, they are great too. Very good work. Thank you for posting this.
...the welds aren't too bad for a rookie, and I assume you are just using a 110VAC MIG with fluxcore wire..which isn't real pretty anyways..and those legs look like galvanized material..that's a bitch to weld unless you really clean it down..either way it's not as bad as you think...but look up weldingtipsandtricks he has a great channel for welding.
here is a thought ....Bob in all your stove except the front with ductwork.Insert an inlet at the bottom and outlet at the top ..simply pipe it to your garage and induce air flow with a small cage fan.......this will increase your efficiency by 40%.......good luck Marcel Fortin..invbentor
I have read that putting heat exchangers on a boiler will cause condensation on the insides of the unit. This causes excessive creosote buildup and corrosion in the exhaust stack over time if left neglected. Having the unit outside is an extra layer of safety that I like.
You need to weld the copper tubing to the heater tank, to transfer as much heat as possible. So you need to expose the tank metal, then coat the copper and tank together to help insulate the heat. Then wrap the entire pack with further insulation suitable for the temperature. Then you can use less fuel and get more heat from it.
oh and i would put that motor out side the door that way its a lot quieter in the garage. the distance from the pump to the fan will not really matter.
my grand father and father made our wood furnace into a water heater with a similar idea except they did it 50 years ago and put the pipes inside the furnace. the cold water comes in feeds through the furnace then into out home made boiler which then feeds into our hot water tank. the pressure of the cold water coming in does all the work. i just changed the thermostats on it they were the originals to the tank that was put in in 1952.
the more you weld the better you will get. Remember at least you have moved off your ass and actually built something. This is what most weld critics have not done. So pat yourself on the back and move on. Good video, Thanks for sharing.
It wouldn't hurt to drill some holes in the ends to allow some air to come in, then you wouldn't need to leave the door open, this will reduce the amount of wood you need to burn, Becomes like a slow combustion stove.
Good idea though, and there is nothing wrong with the welds. What did you use, Arc or Mig? As you get used to using whatever your skills will improve and they will get neater.
@shalnks Nice job. As you learn to weld it well get better. All ways clean the area with a steel brush before you weld. If you can find welding videos will help you to. Great job once again!!!
Suggestion for an improvement, find a small steel old type radiator that sits inside the boiler and acts as a fire grate letting the ash fall through for ease of emptying, this will bring the heat from inside the boiler to the radiator and afford the convection from the outside to heat your garage too. any thoughts?
Now you need to attach a few sterling motors one that will circulate your water and one to power your fans. Or one larger one to run a generator and then use the electricity you generate to power your motors !
if you pack the burner in dirt (soil) preferred clay soil it will insulate a lot better and you should wrap the inside of your flute with copper tubing. this way you can keep the fire very small and the wood consumption to a minimum. just a thought. but your project looks really good as it is.
i like that people like you and me are actually building stuff instead of just complaining.
well you shoud add a pump, and if you make finer turns on the outside with the tube, you can roll the thing up with some "glass wool" (dunno how you call that in english) creating a jacket to minimize the heat loss and maximize the transfer to the water.
You should instead consider making a 3 inch coil and running it INSIDE the full length of the 3.5 inch flue (input at top, exit at bottom). Having the coil on the stove exterior just captures heat already radiating into the garage. Aim the fans on the stove itself and just circulating air over it is more efficient than using a heat transfer medium/radiator in this manner.
The majority of the heat energy is wasted going up and out of your flue.
Is it a closed system? I wonder if you need a T&P valve in there somewhere so it won't explode? I it is an open system, where does the waste water go?
Use water hydrolysis.Burn hydrogen.Use a magnetic motor to get electricity.Your fuel to be water.Try first with a small model.You can use one circuit from copper or inox inside and one outside.
ive entertained the idea of something similar.my home is off the ground with a cinder block chain wall completely around.i want to use just heated air,blown under the house,and let the heat rise thru the floor.im thinking a couple of logs a day with some large rocks to retain the heat.pipes stabbed into the pit,with one end closed and the other restricted with welded 1/4" washers to create more propulsion.fire stays contained,only hot air released.good basement setup i believe.watcha think?
@gunmanscotland well said "gunman".i use to have a small burner in my workshop.wife and the kids use to come in there because it was hotter in there than the house !.keep things simple i say,they work better,less to go wrong !
I'm not dissing your welds, they are actually decent for a beginner. But you really should wire brush off all the slag after. Its corrosive to the welds. Also if you add a forced air system to feed the fire, it needs to be low speed air or you will just end up with problems.
cool.how bout this?if a compost bin can get really warm in the winter,just run ur coils into the center portion of a compost bin and let the bacteria warm the water?watcha think?
COOL IDEA!!! THANKS I WAS THINKING OF A SIMILAR IDEA.. BUT THE RAD IDEA WITH FANS PART JUST SOLD ME..AND I CAN HOOK IT UP TO MY HOME-MADE SOLAR 12V SYSTEM..AND HEY IF THE WELDS WORK.. THEY WORK.. YOU WILL ONLY GET BETTER WITH TIME..KEEP UP THE PROJECTS!!!
You know what really impresses me is that the heat exchanger at the stove works. We can expect that the radiator should do its job and there is nothing that special about a water pump and battery powered fans. Your welding is better than mine would be LOL. I am just amazed at how well wrapping those coils around the stove heats them up. Congratulations!
On your "improved" model, if you put the stack near the door, when you open the door, fresh air and smoke will be drawn up the stack so, . . . smoke will not pass out into the room; also, if you set up vertically up at the stove, and vertically down at the radiator, you'll be making correct use of "heat rises, cool falls", and dependent upon efficiency rating, you may not require a pump, . . .
@phillipgaley The improved model will be out shortly, but it does require a pump as the fire is too hot and the conduction between it and the coil will boil it without proper active transport,
@TheUtubeEngineer Against all doubt, by balancing the internal friction as against tube size and vertical orientation in or around the heat source, the system can be made entirely passive: the hotter—hence, more efficient—the burning, the number of turns must be reduced, and put in more directly vertical orientation, and a larger tube size and is required, . . .
Do you have any idea how hot the water gets in that pipe?Im constructing one about 3 times bigger.I plan on having about 180 feet of 3/4 inch copper tubing wrapped around it and the whole unit will be heavily insulated.Do you think what im building will boil the water?Also how many gallons per hour does your pump ciculate?
@TheUtubeEngineer you said you are using ethylene glycol, would that not be less prone to boiling? are are you trying to keep the pressure down in the system but not allowing the temp of the fluid to rise too much?
Buddy tried the same thing here in Canada but although he had the stove 80 feet away from his house a pressure release and the only thing in the house was the car radiator and a fan they wouldn't insure him ,he argued and had to take it down .
@Pamgleemas0271Can't have a wood stove in your garage because of Insurance. My Grandfather had a wood stove in his garage, but today they are not allowed in most garages by city code and your insurance company won't like it either.
Doh! I forgot to mention: If you put a piece of stainless mesh or expanded metal over the top of stack, or under a stack-cap, you'll keep fly ash/floating burning embers from getting out and possibly landing on something flammable....I like how you angled the hinge, and love the heat exchanger! Thanks for posting your creation!
Nice work there! Do these ideas help? Lining the bottom/partial sides with firebrick to avoid burn-through of cylinder, rigging some plate steel above fire to avoid top burn-through, add a grate to allow combustion air under logs, make a rotating front air inlet (plate mounted on bolt) with holes that line up with/ close off holes you might cut in front of cylinder, using rock-wool insulation if fiberglass doesn't hold up to heat? Above all, love that you had the guts to create something! Nice!!
im a kid that likes stuff like this and its fucking amazing! but a little loud... you can add a noise cancelling walls to keep the dual fans from being to loud or change the motor to a modern engine then an old engine commonly found in old gigantic T.V sets... id go with new engine... it wold look less odd... just wrench the motor off of a fan or a radiator from a car
thanks very much for responding, i will have too rig one up... If you live in alberta Im suprised they let you post this video, the oil sharks usually want everyone on oil. Cheers
This is the engineering that I absolutely love. People who are not afraid to try something different...EXCELLENT work mate. btw..... Did you consider placing the stove vertical and looping the coil verticaly. Possibly you could use a much smaller antifreze pump, or no pump at all depending on how you plumbed it. Also, would you have less maintenance with propane or methane for fuel.... Thanks, and again EXCELLENT, you made it work....
@HirumiKato Thanks for your comment! with regards to specific qs, the vertical was an option but for convenience and potential output i opted for horizontal (forced induction) also, because i plan on making it a pressure system, i wanted to test the pumps place in the system. To stay within the parameters of the project, wood is the only viable fuel. I have been redesigning the system for a while now and an update should be up withing a few weeks. Cheers! and thanks.
@TheUtubeEngineer I agree it would be cool if you made it thermal siphoning so that it would not require a pump to move the water. Of course you would have to place the stove below so that the hot water would rise. I am getting ready to build my first solar water heater that uses thermal siphoning. The benefit I have is the place I am getting will be higher than the heater. Good Job with those welds - better than mine. :)
Did you install a pressure relief valve in the system? Did you use Ethylene glycol or Propylene Glycol? I would suggest you use Propylene Glycol non toxic and will not catch fire. Ethylene glycol is flammable its flash point is 115C /240F. Great idea just want you to be safe.
typical newbee with a camera. learn how to hold it still. don't zoom so much. if you need to move the camera do it very slowly, learn some of the professional secrets before filming ok good tips to go by it will help you make a better quality video.
great system dude, thanks for sharing, im a welder and your welds are great, what kind of stove pipe did you use for the chimney? I saw a guy with a similar setup and he put the garden hose into some big o pipe and than used a spray foam insulation in it just to keep the garden hoses insulated, but its all just playing around and experimenting. let me know what the tempeature difference is outside and inside the garage. cheers
@vintagetoyman i used oil line piping (its alberta, oil everywhere) for the chimney, the temp difference was about 24 C. while outisde was about -27C. welcome to my channel!
I was confused at first why you were messing with water too. but then when you had the stove outside it all came together. good way to work around not having the stove inside. can you still get it up to about 80 degrees in there like a normal wood stove would or do you sacrifice some heat by having an overall technically less efficient system
@johnnyboy922 well, the garage was starting out at about -9C and the stove working at full got it up to about 15C, so a 24 degree jump, but it burned a lot of fuel. I am in the process of reworking the system to make it more effiecient, you can expect the new system to be posted within a couple weeks. Having the water does sacrafice some efficiency.
Trol Welds!
KnowbieII 1 day ago
Hay bro. forget the weld prob And think about how poisonous That Galvanized metal you Well I hope you didn't Inhale. I have welded sense 21 yrs. old Im 43 now and Im sure that was Galvanized metal. The support legs on the stove !
craig265 3 days ago
What you could do to increase efficiency, is have the copper coils on the inside, Wood doesn't burn hot enough to melt the copper pipe unless ducted. As for the welds, practise makes perfect. Tt may not be pretty, but if it holds, what more do you want in a garage stove?
jemmos 4 days ago
wow those welds are the shitest ive seen on yt, my blind dad with parkinsons can weld better.
fuzzynostic 4 days ago
that....is ''not'' welding
SPmQQse 4 days ago
ahhhhhhhh! shitty welds! shitty welds! ahhhhhhhh!!!!
hesmotit 1 week ago
i had this idea about 5 years ago (some differences) but its nice to see some of my ideas being put to use ;) i scraped that idea and just put the stove inside and ran a tall stack outside to vent it properly...... never had any problems with smoke inside..... hot as all hell though!
82raptor 1 week ago
@82raptor well there was a few reasons why i chose to do this system, aside from smoke in the garage, there is also a greater fire hazard and the possibility of CO poisoning, and also the space it takes up. watch version two and you will see how little space it takes up. thanks for checking it out!
TheUtubeEngineer 1 week ago
@TheUtubeEngineer dont get me wrong man i LIKE your idea! i have moved since i had that same idea but iam thinking of using your design for next winter! how do you manage pressure in the system though? i was thinking a radiator cap (15psi) and if and when it boils over it goes into a catch can. how does your fiberglass insulation hold up in the elements? i used a product called "cerwool" basically ceramic wool to keep the stack from burning things. keep in touch please!
82raptor 1 week ago
question 1 what is going to keep the water in the copper pipe from boiling and raising the pressure.
richardmoz 1 week ago
@richardmoz watch the version two annotated in this video.
TheUtubeEngineer 1 week ago
Why not have the stove in your garage and pump the water throo radiators?(chimney vented outside of course).
epster123ify 1 week ago
@epster123ify mess of smoke and ashes, and safety of fire, CO, and others
TheUtubeEngineer 1 week ago
Nice system the radiator and fans is great idea. Have you thought of using the 12 volt thermo fan switch to control fans or pump? Keep inventing and posting!
conantdog 2 weeks ago
@conantdog thanks! check out version two, its annotated on this video at the top.
TheUtubeEngineer 1 week ago
Every time heat is exchanged you lose lots of potential energy so why not use the stove in the garage and put a pedastal fan close by to circulate the heat. much simpler
biblicalbob 2 weeks ago
@biblicalbob mess of ashes and it would take up room. also a saftey aspect of fire, CO, and others.
TheUtubeEngineer 1 week ago
kool! Have u thought about adding more copper on the outside of the boiler and maybe a removable u bend or coil down the chimney to bump up the eficiency bet theres masses of heat wasted out of there also a thermal paste between the steel and copper. if heating the water is th main function as opose to heating your room n heating water as a extra. those mods could half ur wood consumption plus you wouldnt have go outside to top it up so often and let all the heat out of the house lol. nice work
kindrixxx 2 weeks ago
@kindrixxx i have thought of that, but the copper corrodes much quicker if it is inside. thanks for checking it out!!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
nice vid great thinking.
darkhorse2reign 2 weeks ago
@darkhorse2reign thanks!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
i'm pretty sure that's fucking awesome
doinworksonnnnn 2 weeks ago
@doinworksonnnnn thanks for taking a look!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
good job man.... your welds look a hell of a lot better than mine bro.
MrJampike 2 weeks ago
@MrJampike thanks for cheking it out!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
Sweet concept. what about placing the coil inside the oven camber to collect better and direct heat.
20fireman12 2 weeks ago
@20fireman12 i thought about that but the coil is tough to bend and the hot combustion gases can easily corrode the coil. thanks for checking it out!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
@20fireman12 i thought about that but the coil is tough to bend and the hot combustion gases can easily corrode the coil. thanks for checking it out!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
the 3/4 in the top will be a 6 pass coil also.
s46d45m17 2 weeks ago
very nice idea, I want to build a stainless box 4' wide 4' long and 6' high and take stainless sch 40 3/4" pipe put it in the top and put my grate in the bottom for fire wood bring the line outside the box to a pump to pump it to my coil in the house but before it gets to the house put a nipple in the top of the line and put a expasion tank to about 2' above the highest point of the system leave it open and no need for a relief valve thats part of my idea and use glycol.
s46d45m17 2 weeks ago
@s46d45m17 good thinking!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
Good use of materials.
charlessmyth 2 weeks ago
I think you need more insulation of your stove and your tubes to the radiator to prevent losing heat. Altrough great job.
MrTWOproductions 2 weeks ago
@MrTWOproductions I was thinking about that, but it has about a quarter inch of rubber, so i think it will be okay.
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
OK BUT WHY NOT PUT THE COIL INSIDE THE UNIT?? JUST MAKE SURE YOU USE A PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE AND FILL THE TUBE WITH ANTIFREEZE AS IT EXCHANGES HEAT BETTER THAN H20. OR....SAND THE OUTSIDE AND TACK SILVER SOLDER THE COIL EVERY 1/4 TURN TO UP THE CONTACT.
VITATTA 2 weeks ago
@VITATTA because the heat and gases released by combustion can very easily corrode the copper. i do use antifreeze, but thanks for checking it out!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
COOL! I like very much!
ezygong 2 weeks ago
@ezygong thanks for checking it out!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
Dude you are awsome. welding is learned you will get better as you go.
terryclotf 2 weeks ago
@terryclotf thanks!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
@terryclotf thanks for checking it out!!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
Nice home made heater. Good to see it working. As well great work.
Steven715715 2 weeks ago
@Steven715715 thanks! be sure to check out version 2!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
very cool !!!
GEERUP 2 weeks ago
@GEERUP thanks! version 2 is up!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
fukin eh man
blingmow101 2 weeks ago
Great job!!! I've been thinking of doing something similar for a while, you've given me some great ideas. I have a dead minivan to get the radiator from and a barrel. Now I just need to get the tube & a pump. Keep having fun!
bandanamanian 2 weeks ago
@bandanamanian its always good to hear! when your done be sure to put a video up and let me know!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
Very cool. I would add some vents on that door and also cement some braided stove gasket rope so the door will close super tight and help prevent "puff backs" for inside usage. I think as long as the welds hold, they are great too. Very good work. Thank you for posting this.
shithitthefanman 2 weeks ago
Great idea. Fan sounds kind of noisy though.
ag7g 3 weeks ago
@ag7g yes, it had been fixed in version two! stay tuned.
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
great idea, keep going
but this thing is LOUD and the welds...
Nopiw 3 weeks ago
Nice ingenuity man good vid I'll be watching!
TheMuskokaman 3 weeks ago
@TheMuskokaman thanks! good to hear from you!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
The fact that those are your welds! and you did the yourself! akes them BADASS! I hope mine look that GREAT!
Thanks for Sharing!!
God Bless You and Yours!!
JWnFL 3 weeks ago
@JWnFL good to hear from you!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
...the welds aren't too bad for a rookie, and I assume you are just using a 110VAC MIG with fluxcore wire..which isn't real pretty anyways..and those legs look like galvanized material..that's a bitch to weld unless you really clean it down..either way it's not as bad as you think...but look up weldingtipsandtricks he has a great channel for welding.
angusandleigh 3 weeks ago
@angusandleigh no, it was a dc arc welder.
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
What not put the burner inside the garage? You are losing so much heat with the miles of pipe going to the radiator.
Nice build though....crap welding!...trolololol :D
jeffurry77 3 weeks ago
@jeffurry77 it would take up too much space, and it smokes.
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
In your design, a lot of heat is actually generated in the vertical exhaust pipe, and that's where you want to include your heat exchange.
sok8888 3 weeks ago
why dint you use 100 lb
cilender
3382187900 3 weeks ago
@3382187900 i didnt have one, these were free just laying around/
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
here is a thought ....Bob in all your stove except the front with ductwork.Insert an inlet at the bottom and outlet at the top ..simply pipe it to your garage and induce air flow with a small cage fan.......this will increase your efficiency by 40%.......good luck Marcel Fortin..invbentor
1marceltony 3 weeks ago
Thanks for sharing
losttreasurehunt 3 weeks ago
I have read that putting heat exchangers on a boiler will cause condensation on the insides of the unit. This causes excessive creosote buildup and corrosion in the exhaust stack over time if left neglected. Having the unit outside is an extra layer of safety that I like.
john17381 3 weeks ago
@john17381 thanks!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
You need to weld the copper tubing to the heater tank, to transfer as much heat as possible. So you need to expose the tank metal, then coat the copper and tank together to help insulate the heat. Then wrap the entire pack with further insulation suitable for the temperature. Then you can use less fuel and get more heat from it.
Asylumescapee69 3 weeks ago
i like your work!! :D
you could add another coil to the chimney, and divert that off to heat another room.....
frackcha 4 weeks ago
@frackcha thanks for watching! stay tuned for version two!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
oh and i would put that motor out side the door that way its a lot quieter in the garage. the distance from the pump to the fan will not really matter.
gourley197 4 weeks ago
my grand father and father made our wood furnace into a water heater with a similar idea except they did it 50 years ago and put the pipes inside the furnace. the cold water comes in feeds through the furnace then into out home made boiler which then feeds into our hot water tank. the pressure of the cold water coming in does all the work. i just changed the thermostats on it they were the originals to the tank that was put in in 1952.
gourley197 4 weeks ago
the more you weld the better you will get. Remember at least you have moved off your ass and actually built something. This is what most weld critics have not done. So pat yourself on the back and move on. Good video, Thanks for sharing.
lugerstonecock 4 weeks ago
Pretty weilds or not you Nailed this project for heat exchange Big time Congratz dude I like it 5 thumbs up!!!!
chachi111769 4 weeks ago
@chachi111769 thanks!!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
Could you just use a computer 480mm raditor? if needed? it would be much quiter.
Yofatboy123 1 month ago
Good job brother!
gateway8833 1 month ago
That's a very nice little stove. Don't worry about the welds. If smoke doesn't escape from the welds they are perfect.Two thumbs up man.
Loki95531 1 month ago
I have to tell Ya that is pretty impressive! At first I wasnt sure why you were putting the coils and then it made a lot more sense. Great job man!
DrivenDevGrp 1 month ago
It wouldn't hurt to drill some holes in the ends to allow some air to come in, then you wouldn't need to leave the door open, this will reduce the amount of wood you need to burn, Becomes like a slow combustion stove.
Good idea though, and there is nothing wrong with the welds. What did you use, Arc or Mig? As you get used to using whatever your skills will improve and they will get neater.
Overall good job mate
shalnks 1 month ago
@shalnks Nice job. As you learn to weld it well get better. All ways clean the area with a steel brush before you weld. If you can find welding videos will help you to. Great job once again!!!
morrisrichard50 4 weeks ago
Suggestion for an improvement, find a small steel old type radiator that sits inside the boiler and acts as a fire grate letting the ash fall through for ease of emptying, this will bring the heat from inside the boiler to the radiator and afford the convection from the outside to heat your garage too. any thoughts?
AndrewKFletcher 1 month ago
Now you need to attach a few sterling motors one that will circulate your water and one to power your fans. Or one larger one to run a generator and then use the electricity you generate to power your motors !
ThePortalNC 1 month ago 2
@ThePortalNC great idea!!
TheUtubeEngineer 2 weeks ago
really nice one, mate!
PlochpReborn 1 month ago
if you pack the burner in dirt (soil) preferred clay soil it will insulate a lot better and you should wrap the inside of your flute with copper tubing. this way you can keep the fire very small and the wood consumption to a minimum. just a thought. but your project looks really good as it is.
i like that people like you and me are actually building stuff instead of just complaining.
check out my website
mciceteade 1 month ago
What about reversing the direction of water in copper tubing round the stove....
JanicekTrnecka 1 month ago
well you shoud add a pump, and if you make finer turns on the outside with the tube, you can roll the thing up with some "glass wool" (dunno how you call that in english) creating a jacket to minimize the heat loss and maximize the transfer to the water.
samoht1977 1 month ago
You should instead consider making a 3 inch coil and running it INSIDE the full length of the 3.5 inch flue (input at top, exit at bottom). Having the coil on the stove exterior just captures heat already radiating into the garage. Aim the fans on the stove itself and just circulating air over it is more efficient than using a heat transfer medium/radiator in this manner.
The majority of the heat energy is wasted going up and out of your flue.
Anti-freeze will raise the boiling point.
RB63353 1 month ago
I really like the improve you did, shows what you can do with an imagination. ps your welds suck!!!!!!! haha kidding.
r1ot1ng247 1 month ago
Very nice, how many gallons per minute will that pump put out?
ChicagoBob58 1 month ago
I like it m8.......nice job !!!!
homegrown65 1 month ago
The idea is pre good, how hot dose the water get?
Yofatboy123 1 month ago
Love DYI.
It may not be some fancy store bought appliance, but there is satisfaction in building one's own stuff.
dinnerandashow 1 month ago
Is it a closed system? I wonder if you need a T&P valve in there somewhere so it won't explode? I it is an open system, where does the waste water go?
UNKLDAVE 1 month ago
No pump needed!
Use a one way check valve and holding tank.
Good idea!
mik22pik 1 month ago
Use water hydrolysis.Burn hydrogen.Use a magnetic motor to get electricity.Your fuel to be water.Try first with a small model.You can use one circuit from copper or inox inside and one outside.
titusignat 1 month ago
is that noise better than smoke?
robowen66 1 month ago
somebody get this guy a kleenex
seizetheweakened 1 month ago
ive entertained the idea of something similar.my home is off the ground with a cinder block chain wall completely around.i want to use just heated air,blown under the house,and let the heat rise thru the floor.im thinking a couple of logs a day with some large rocks to retain the heat.pipes stabbed into the pit,with one end closed and the other restricted with welded 1/4" washers to create more propulsion.fire stays contained,only hot air released.good basement setup i believe.watcha think?
yaryar1976 1 month ago
noisy but good
beingatliberty 1 month ago
the wood burner would heat up the garage better that the radiator ???
TheWolfman1966 1 month ago
@TheWolfman1966 Thats what id have thought, just needed a longer chimney to go out the roof, although his idea is good, its just very unefficient
gunmanscotland 1 month ago
@gunmanscotland well said "gunman".i use to have a small burner in my workshop.wife and the kids use to come in there because it was hotter in there than the house !.keep things simple i say,they work better,less to go wrong !
TheWolfman1966 1 month ago
Bravo. Nice job.
renukote 1 month ago
I'm not dissing your welds, they are actually decent for a beginner. But you really should wire brush off all the slag after. Its corrosive to the welds. Also if you add a forced air system to feed the fire, it needs to be low speed air or you will just end up with problems.
Jdspitz2 1 month ago
hey if the welds work they work
fuggleism 1 month ago
1) Get a mig welder
2) use shielding gas
3) watch welding videos on you tube
4) practice on scrap
....and you will become a pro. I'm just trying to help
J0Boa 1 month ago
What pump are you using? How is it holding up to the heat?
FloppyHatPhotos 1 month ago
@FloppyHatPhotos not sure exactly, just a sprayer pump, it holds up well! cheers
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
I'm in your garage, trollin your welds.
J/K, looks nice man.
holocrono 1 month ago
excellent and impressive...now just work on getting it quiet in the shop
robw1531 1 month ago
@robw1531 haha i have! new version should be up this weekend, thanks for your comment!
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
what tempreture gets ur water?
evilmode100 1 month ago
@evilmode100 on this about 90 celcius, on my improved version that will be uploaded shortly about 110 celcius
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
cool.how bout this?if a compost bin can get really warm in the winter,just run ur coils into the center portion of a compost bin and let the bacteria warm the water?watcha think?
yaryar1976 1 month ago
@yaryar1976 haha! i kinda want to try it out know....
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
COOL IDEA!!! THANKS I WAS THINKING OF A SIMILAR IDEA.. BUT THE RAD IDEA WITH FANS PART JUST SOLD ME..AND I CAN HOOK IT UP TO MY HOME-MADE SOLAR 12V SYSTEM..AND HEY IF THE WELDS WORK.. THEY WORK.. YOU WILL ONLY GET BETTER WITH TIME..KEEP UP THE PROJECTS!!!
ajuly2662 1 month ago
@ajuly2662 thanks for checking it out! welcome to the project. cheers!
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
You know what really impresses me is that the heat exchanger at the stove works. We can expect that the radiator should do its job and there is nothing that special about a water pump and battery powered fans. Your welding is better than mine would be LOL. I am just amazed at how well wrapping those coils around the stove heats them up. Congratulations!
harshba 1 month ago
@harshba Thanks for checking it out! i have made several modifications and the improved version should be out shortly. cheers!
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
On your "improved" model, if you put the stack near the door, when you open the door, fresh air and smoke will be drawn up the stack so, . . . smoke will not pass out into the room; also, if you set up vertically up at the stove, and vertically down at the radiator, you'll be making correct use of "heat rises, cool falls", and dependent upon efficiency rating, you may not require a pump, . . .
phillipgaley 1 month ago
@phillipgaley The improved model will be out shortly, but it does require a pump as the fire is too hot and the conduction between it and the coil will boil it without proper active transport,
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
@TheUtubeEngineer Against all doubt, by balancing the internal friction as against tube size and vertical orientation in or around the heat source, the system can be made entirely passive: the hotter—hence, more efficient—the burning, the number of turns must be reduced, and put in more directly vertical orientation, and a larger tube size and is required, . . .
phillipgaley 1 month ago
Do you have any idea how hot the water gets in that pipe?Im constructing one about 3 times bigger.I plan on having about 180 feet of 3/4 inch copper tubing wrapped around it and the whole unit will be heavily insulated.Do you think what im building will boil the water?Also how many gallons per hour does your pump ciculate?
krowebmf76 1 month ago
Nice job. Wrap some glass fiber around the hot hose going in and you will get even more heat out of the system.
Optisoft 1 month ago
nice
sugerbear520 1 month ago
I would use a antifreez mix
TheFred1952 1 month ago
From what I gather, you must be erasing all the negative comments and only showing the positive ones.
royalbraindamage 1 month ago
@royalbraindamage really not true, look at the like/dislike bar. i cant mess with that.
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
Hey man, you don't need the pump, convection will do fine.
paintballingguy 1 month ago
@paintballingguy i do need a pump, or else the water boils
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago 4
@TheUtubeEngineer you said you are using ethylene glycol, would that not be less prone to boiling? are are you trying to keep the pressure down in the system but not allowing the temp of the fluid to rise too much?
thebrianjames 1 month ago
Fuck the welds, thats an A1 job
Headoffury 1 month ago 6
@Headoffury thanks for checking it out! welcome to the project cheers
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
thats a sweet little stove and the heat exchange is just awesome. what size is the copper tube?
lluwd 1 month ago
@lluwd 1/2 inch inner diameter
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
@TheUtubeEngineer thanks man
lluwd 1 month ago
Buddy tried the same thing here in Canada but although he had the stove 80 feet away from his house a pressure release and the only thing in the house was the car radiator and a fan they wouldn't insure him ,he argued and had to take it down .
FrankaDith 1 month ago
Why not put the stove inside also? Isn't the idea to heat the gargage? Im confussed...
Pamgleemas0271 1 month ago
@Pamgleemas0271Can't have a wood stove in your garage because of Insurance. My Grandfather had a wood stove in his garage, but today they are not allowed in most garages by city code and your insurance company won't like it either.
Expert1911 1 month ago
Doh! I forgot to mention: If you put a piece of stainless mesh or expanded metal over the top of stack, or under a stack-cap, you'll keep fly ash/floating burning embers from getting out and possibly landing on something flammable....I like how you angled the hinge, and love the heat exchanger! Thanks for posting your creation!
CuriousEarthMan 1 month ago
Nice work there! Do these ideas help? Lining the bottom/partial sides with firebrick to avoid burn-through of cylinder, rigging some plate steel above fire to avoid top burn-through, add a grate to allow combustion air under logs, make a rotating front air inlet (plate mounted on bolt) with holes that line up with/ close off holes you might cut in front of cylinder, using rock-wool insulation if fiberglass doesn't hold up to heat? Above all, love that you had the guts to create something! Nice!!
CuriousEarthMan 1 month ago
this thing is sweet,awesome idea
groov14 1 month ago
IT'S QUIET AS A MOUSE!!!
LinearElasticity 1 month ago
who cares what things look like when thy work just fine no 1 botherd about looks .this blokes not
bucketrobbert 1 month ago
I made something similar from an old sprayer bottle and some scrap steel. Works like a charm. :)
Donkelo 1 month ago
im a kid that likes stuff like this and its fucking amazing! but a little loud... you can add a noise cancelling walls to keep the dual fans from being to loud or change the motor to a modern engine then an old engine commonly found in old gigantic T.V sets... id go with new engine... it wold look less odd... just wrench the motor off of a fan or a radiator from a car
wonderworld32 1 month ago
@wonderworld32 oh wait... forget the big tv thing... i was thinking of the fan itself when i was talking about the motor that you can get from a fan
wonderworld32 1 month ago
your welds suck hahahahah couldn't resist =)))
PyR0Star 1 month ago
coolest thing ive see so far
mxboi32 1 month ago
thanks very much for responding, i will have too rig one up... If you live in alberta Im suprised they let you post this video, the oil sharks usually want everyone on oil. Cheers
vintagetoyman 1 month ago
This is the engineering that I absolutely love. People who are not afraid to try something different...EXCELLENT work mate. btw..... Did you consider placing the stove vertical and looping the coil verticaly. Possibly you could use a much smaller antifreze pump, or no pump at all depending on how you plumbed it. Also, would you have less maintenance with propane or methane for fuel.... Thanks, and again EXCELLENT, you made it work....
HirumiKato 1 month ago
@HirumiKato Thanks for your comment! with regards to specific qs, the vertical was an option but for convenience and potential output i opted for horizontal (forced induction) also, because i plan on making it a pressure system, i wanted to test the pumps place in the system. To stay within the parameters of the project, wood is the only viable fuel. I have been redesigning the system for a while now and an update should be up withing a few weeks. Cheers! and thanks.
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
@TheUtubeEngineer Well done, cold water in at bottom ,hot water out at top. Hot water rises. Just a little advice.But still well done.
epamaanonda 1 month ago
@TheUtubeEngineer I agree it would be cool if you made it thermal siphoning so that it would not require a pump to move the water. Of course you would have to place the stove below so that the hot water would rise. I am getting ready to build my first solar water heater that uses thermal siphoning. The benefit I have is the place I am getting will be higher than the heater. Good Job with those welds - better than mine. :)
QuantumPrepper 1 month ago
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HirumiKato 1 month ago
Ingenious!
Beer400C 1 month ago
@Beer400C thanks! welcome to my channel!
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
@Beer400C с
VershokM 1 month ago
is it cool to have the stove burning without the water passsing throgh?
JimssWorld 1 month ago
@JimssWorld yep its fine, but i would be a little more nervous if it was forced induced.
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
holy shit look at those welds!!!
JimssWorld 1 month ago 3
Did you install a pressure relief valve in the system? Did you use Ethylene glycol or Propylene Glycol? I would suggest you use Propylene Glycol non toxic and will not catch fire. Ethylene glycol is flammable its flash point is 115C /240F. Great idea just want you to be safe.
killerclown1740 1 month ago 2
I wonder if you could set that radiator up to blue inside the house, like a window unit A/C???
Thx for posting this, good idea
mrathke78 1 month ago
typical newbee with a camera. learn how to hold it still. don't zoom so much. if you need to move the camera do it very slowly, learn some of the professional secrets before filming ok good tips to go by it will help you make a better quality video.
RichardOhKaNoi 1 month ago
lol...OK, I won't troll your welds..but hey, they work don't they..good idea BTW
savagenomore 1 month ago
Man thats loud! But nice job less the welding.....lol
parkert51 1 month ago
great system dude, thanks for sharing, im a welder and your welds are great, what kind of stove pipe did you use for the chimney? I saw a guy with a similar setup and he put the garden hose into some big o pipe and than used a spray foam insulation in it just to keep the garden hoses insulated, but its all just playing around and experimenting. let me know what the tempeature difference is outside and inside the garage. cheers
vintagetoyman 1 month ago
@vintagetoyman i used oil line piping (its alberta, oil everywhere) for the chimney, the temp difference was about 24 C. while outisde was about -27C. welcome to my channel!
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago
I was confused at first why you were messing with water too. but then when you had the stove outside it all came together. good way to work around not having the stove inside. can you still get it up to about 80 degrees in there like a normal wood stove would or do you sacrifice some heat by having an overall technically less efficient system
johnnyboy922 1 month ago
@johnnyboy922 well, the garage was starting out at about -9C and the stove working at full got it up to about 15C, so a 24 degree jump, but it burned a lot of fuel. I am in the process of reworking the system to make it more effiecient, you can expect the new system to be posted within a couple weeks. Having the water does sacrafice some efficiency.
TheUtubeEngineer 1 month ago