i am from israel. i am afraid of turkey. because turkey is stronger than us. please dont leave israel alone against turkey. please help us. TURKEY WILL SHOOT TO ISRAEL 2 MONHS LATER. ENGLAND MUST HELP US OR WE (THE JEWS) WILL FUCK YOUR ECOMOMY.
Allies ecpecially Britain were good in talking, they declared war to Germany but that was only words. They had too much to lose. Nobody occupied their country, nobody shoot to innocent people on their streets or tortured them for nothing. Of course i don't blame ordinary people, it was all politician fault.
@WariorPL but if you look carefully in the past you will see that we must be more sophisticated. In 1939 we already lost when Jozef Beck did not manage to fit in to situation (with our neighbours)difficult times required difficult decisions. Now we are paying and still will be paying for his mistakes by working for traitors in new europe union!
they defended there own soil with pride and also defended the british soil, i cant understand why the polish should be ignored by churchhill,they fought for freedom,a northern irish guy thats gran lost 2 brothers in raf defending britian, god bless them all
"British Goverment gave a recit to the Polish Goverment on exile in Londen"
Few know this but it important as hell to remember this. This says a lot of how the British Establishment treats others, as "tools" to be later betrayed if it is convenient.
There are way too many negative comments on this thread, yes, Poland suffered more than any other European country in WW2, and the were betrayed by their allies at the end of the war.
The Polish people are entitles to be bitter about the way they were sold out by the Allies, but they should remember it was by conniving politicians, not British, French or American troops, who also fought bravely against their common enemy.
english journalist in return post such a bulshit like 'polish' death camp i really hate brittons get them down lets sue them all for 100 000 000 000 000 000 euros that will teach them how to respect the truth
@just3ta Cześć. I can see you're active on this thread as well...
Again, I feel it's very inappropriate to raise such issues here, moreover in that kind of aggressive/ primitive form.
I understand you're a Polish patriot and where you're coming from, but this vid is aimed to commemorate the deeds of our brave pilots, who deserve due respect, in particular from their fellow countrymen.
@just3ta Wyluzuj. Mnie to też złości ale to nie jest miejsce na odpowiedzialność zbiorową. Mnie mało obchodzi co myślą inni. My znamy historię i to mi wystarczy. BTW jak widać powyżej - wielu brytyjczyków też zna prawdę.
@Serratus648 i tu sie człowieku grubo mylisz...za wojny wywołane przez ojców płaca zbiorowo ich dzieci...za długi zaciagniete przez nas jako państwo zapłaci pokolenie naszych dzieci.... to jest odpowiedzialność zbiorowa...
@just3ta No ok. Ale mimo wszystko nie bardzo mnie interesuje co oni o nas myślą, tak długo jak są z dala od polski. Ale muszę zapytać czy wg. Ciebie nie ma znaczenia fakt, że bardzo wielu brytyjczyków wstydzi się za Jałtę i tą całą sprawę z paradą zwycięstwa w Londynie po zakończeniu wojny?
@just3ta You are very wrong. I and the vast majority of British people are eternally grateful for the sacrifices made by the Polish people during WW2. Comments like yours are really unneccessary
All this rubbish about 'who is better' should stop, brave men from Poland in the UK fought side by side against an evil, brutal enemy in WW2, sacrificing their lives and youth, and won.
What happened after was nothing to do with them, and was the fault of politicians from all countries, some of the posts here disrespect the memory of brave men who aren't here to answer, and we should show them more respect.
@jackHNv They fought for britain and britain let them down, Poles and czech were the bes... we bought spitfires and hurricanes for OUR GOLD OUR PILOTS GIVED THEIR LIVES for britain and then churchil sold their homeland to stalin. thank you britain!
Mój dziadek Sgt. Andrzej Rudel walczył na pewno w 301, 302, 307 (kr. klip video zaw. relacje kolegów, listy do Polski, odznaczenia, parę fotografii, fragm. przygotow do druku książki oraz inne - w moim kanale YoyTube i Facebook-u). Był pilotem i strzelcem samolotowym, zginął w nierównej, piekielnej walce 22 lipca 1942 r nad kanałem La Manche. Może ktoś go rozpozna?Przepraszam za złą jakość.
watch on you tube a seriescalled world war two behind closed doors and see the real betrayal from rosevelt stalin and churchill usa uk and russia hang your heads in shame .
@benaborkowski what, i'm not holding my head in shame for the idiocy of some politicains on affliated with me by nationality, who died before i was even born...
watch on you tube a seriescalled world war two behind closed doors and see the real betrayal from rosevelt stalin and churchill usa uk and russia hang your heads in shame
Polish Government in UK and France and all over the world paid by Polish People Gold. For all the help to UK and France we did. In Poland we had to pay to Uk and France from donations from the Poles and the Polish government in UK 1942 for saving the Brits by the Polish pilots.
@JollyRodders Josef František say "I`m a Pole" to Czech officer and He don`t want fight with Czechs. Serious reason of Polish all the time talking abot Polish contribution in this war is that You deleted this part of history from books and conciousness. In this case Czechs was also forgotten exactly the same as We are. It`s not only Polish pilots, but also decoded Enigma, captured V1, Cassino, Warsaw Uprising etc. etc. We must remind this because You Has sclerosis.
@licicaviki "You deleted this part of history from books and conciousness" Rubbish...Anyone who studies WW2 knows about the contribution made not only by Poles, but others too from Europe and all across the world. Just don't get on your high horse about it. It was an international effort to defeat Nazism and just unfortunate for Poland that after the conflict was over geography dictated that it become a buffer zone between the West and Eastern Bloc. The real winner was the USA.
@JollyRodders Yes real winner was USA... and Communist Russia. It`s no rubbish man... It`s a fact. Of course not now because We can openly talk about it...but shortly after war all Polish but also Czech contribution was forgotten for years. Polish soldiers who back to Poland were executed by communists,incarcerated in Soviet prisons.. We has almost civil war here.
@licicaviki I have to agree with Jolly. Anyone who knows anything about World War 2 knows about the contribution of the Poles. In fact I know Poles who escaped to England after the war and have never been back or wanted to go back to Poland. I know several 2nd generation Poles who regard themselves as English...Except, strangely enough, when England play Poland at football. If you ask alot of people they probably will not know anything much about WW1&2 but the internet is a wonderful thing.
@TheDepotCat Follow the proverb "Point of sit is point of view" We has different perspectives about it. It`s not true that Polish contribution was appreciated. For decades after the war the contributions of Rejewski and other Polish cipher experts to the Allied victory over Nazi Germany went unrecognised. British army used Polish mine detector invented by Józef Kosacki. He gave it for free to clear El Alamein minefields. Anybody don`t know nothing about it.
@licicaviki "For decades after the war the contributions of Rejewski and other Polish cipher experts to the Allied victory over Nazi Germany went unrecognised">>> When was Bletchley Park made officially known to the British public..?? That and other war secrets remained just that...secret...for decades. Some WW2 secrets are still emerging from Kew every year. The fact that Poles were instrumental in deciphering messages, and that's why it was not revealed, is a rather childish notion..
@JollyRodders I love Your old, traditional, english "missing the fact Consciousness". Poles wasn`t "instrumental in deciphering messages" because when Poles first broke Enigma in 1932 You even don`t know that exist something like this. You started decode Enigma because Poles gave You in july 1939 Enigma-decryption techniques and first "cryptologic bombs" because We was allies. After war only Polish contribution in decoding Enigma was secret not the Turning fame.
@licicaviki Heh Heh - Sour grapes. And what about the Colossus. I suppose that was Polish too. That's why it must have been kept a secret for so long.
@JollyRodders Nobody denied english contribution in decoding Enigma ... it was big, important, strategic and... very known... I read that first informations about Colossus on the west was published in 70-ties. You suggest that it was the only case of this silence? Decription of Enigma wasn`t known before 1970 at all?
@licicaviki One of the reasons the Enigma cracking remained secret up to 1975 is that the British government distributed the equipment based on this technology among many governments of t the third world countries to use for their secret internal communications. You may guess why ;-)))
@factualinfo It`s interesting fact. I like to learn so thank you very much. I must say that I catch different perspective about enigma now. I didn`t know that decription of enigma was secret so long on the west.But I must say that US/UK/Nazi movie "Enigma" of Michael Apted piss me off. My grandfather - veteran of WWII broke the tv screen with his prosthesis when he watch it. It was so fu....ng unfair. Greeks was also involved ;-)
imczy jermyrz y wa inerpalzycz politcszinksnay mamy od odnym Polska do proszy komezny w niemcy takatukaland 1944! Nósz o woyskzczinskay blabla Warszawa nat y dat unglaublich hässliche Sprache!!
I judged the Poles by their enemies. And I found it was an almost unfailing truth that their enemies were the enemies of magnanimity and manhood. If a man loved slavery, if he loved usury, if he loved terrorism and all the trampled mire of materialistic politics, I have always found that he added to these affections the passion of a hatred of Poland. She could be judged in the light of that hatred; and the judgment has proved to be right."
W kazdym razie jestemy Narodem ktory jest bardzo ufnym jezeli chodzi o obietnice... od wschodu tak i od zachodu(od 1945 Do dzisiaj.).. Innego wyjscia nie mamy bo tylko nadzieja nam pozostala ...Jezeli ktos powie ,ze powinnismy to zmienic sami to moj komentarz jest taki..: POLAND FIRST TO FIGHT!!!.... i taka nasza dola...
Nie chcialem komentowac ale musze,....Panie i Panowie jestesmy bardzo walecznym i oddanym krajem jezeli chodzi o walke o Wolnosc i Niepodloglosc...Walczylismy I walczymy w roznych wojnach o Wolnosc i Demokracje tym razem....Moja konkluzja jest taka: W IMIE CZEGO?
Ktos powie HONOR! zgadzam sie ale popatrzcie na naszych weteranow...jest w nich sila zycia ale sa zawiedzeni...Pamietajmy ,ze Wiekie mocarstwa dbaja tylko o swoje interesy..My jestesmy tylko narzedziem . Nad tym ubolewam...
@MrMaverick1971 To nie jest kwestia ufności to jest kwestia braku alternatyw. Jaki mieliśmy wybór? Zakładać obozy koncentracyjne razem z Niemcami? Ogłosić się kolejną republiką sowiecką? No nie jest tylko nasz los to los całej środkowej Europy.
MaximusProteus cala prawda ze Wielka Brytania zabrala Polsce czesc zlota z 1939 roku ale w czesnie Francja zaz zabrala na wyposarzenie Polskich Sil przed w wczasie inwazji Hitlera na Francje tak Francja i GB zaplacili za nasza pomoc i za Polska Enigme a pod koniec wojny bylo za pozwoleniem USA
Polacy powinni aliantom "fakturę" wystawić za całą II wojnę (zdrada w 1939, walki na obu frontach, Powstanie Warszawskie, okupacja sowiecka) nikogo tak jak Polaków nie zrobiono na szaro a teraz jeszcze o odszkodowania się upominają
Fakturę? Fakturę to nam Brytole wystawili za... walczenie na ich sprzęcie za ich wysepkę, zapłaciliśmy 3 mln funtów szterlingów w złocie, z tego złota ewakuowanego w 1939. Resztę oddano komunistom uznając ich władzę w Polsce i de facto nie uznając rządu na emigracji, który tym złotem dysponował.
utrudnienia i blokada dla Polakow aby dostac legalny status emigranta w USA
ostatnio bylem z moim pracownikiem
na 200 osob na ceremonii obywatelstwa USA 2 isoby z Europy jedna z Polski i jedna z Albanii, nikogo z Europy Zachodniej. czy to jest celowe?grandmother, who is 81 years old, was coming to spend the holidays with us. At Newark Airport she was handcuffed and taken to the deportation center in New Jersey
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why pick the sewer, isn't that to easy for you to rise above... If I were driven to the brink of the abyss as that verfluchte Hund77 has driven you, I'd rather skip searching for insults, get some sleep and THINk (if that's not too stretchy ...)about something sophisticated, modern-day, machiavellian perhaps...Only joking.. Swap the 'sewer' for 'rigid brain' maybe...
Well, how else are you going to impress?
So far you haven't... Pretending may be your everyday routine, it always fails tho
May have, would've, maybe should've?Poles would then annex this island (after having routed Germany, by themselves, of koz) and finish it off like they have been doing to their beloved Vistula land
Uncomfortable indeed. Katyn massacre, tabu subject in Poland. It was the PPK , Polish Communist Party (1905-48) who colaborated with the Soviets in the decapitation of J Pilsudski's Polish Army
as reprisal for the 1920 humiliating defeat of the Soviets in Poland. The PPK never stood trial for treason. Instead Poland keeps spreading accusations against the Wetern Powers like in this vid, because the majority of Poles were on Moscow's payroll for 40 years, their 'kids' still privileged jobwise..
'Buzav...' So, again, for 3 Polish engineers' ingenuity and work in Britain 70 years ago, all 40 million of new Poles, should receive British pensions, now? Or are you saying Britain woud lose WW ll without nonexistant Poland's 3 engineers, because they were educated at Warsaw superior polytechnique?
1.PZL.37 Łoś was a Polish twin-engine medium bomber, used in the Invasion of Poland in 1939. Thanks to the laminar-flow wing it was one of the most modern bombers in the world before World War II.
2.The PZL P.11 was a Polish fighter aircraft, designed in the early 1930s by PZL in Warsaw. It was briefly considered to be the most advanced fighter aircraft design in the world. In 1939 was outdated.
Poland was free only 20 years after 123 years of partitions. You don`t know realities.
"They went excited and angry, They went for revenge and to kill, They went insanely stubborn As always, to fight for honour The red poppies of Monte Cassino Instead of dew, drank Polish blood. And on these poppies walked, soldiers and fell Because the anger was stronger than death. The years and the centuries will pass A few sights from the old days will be left, But all the poppies on Monte Cassion Will blossom with red from Polish blood.
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...noone wants to belittle anybody's achievements in battle, boy...Only when people steel Western glory and shout it as Polish only, that's when we smell frauds... // 32 nationalities fought as Allies, in Europe... Poles haven't noticed them? // And what barred the wehrmacht fron invading Britain? Mainly the Channel, boy. Then the RAF, also, the Luftwaffe ran out of fuel...Hence Baku...Stalingrad... And Poland was given to Stalin by PPK, Polish Communist Party...Not the West
In all fairness, the West decided to recognize PPK and treated it as legal government, despite the continued existence of the Polish government in exile (in London). PPK was, like the majority of communist parties of the time, merely an extension of the Soviet network of power designed to create a semblence of legitimacy of their takeover of everything East from Stettin to Trieste.
No one is denying any troops of their contributions to the war effort. But in this one particular case, Polish veterans take extreme pride. Because they accomplished what the British, American, French and NewZealanders could not. They took the hilltop at Monte Cassino at a heavy cost of life. But this one victory opened the road to Rome. They were trained for a year, by Allied forces in the deserts of Egypt and later in the mountains of Lebanon to prepare. They did not let the Allies down.
@nanabijou62 My late father fought through the whole of WW2, in Belgium, France, North Africa and Italy.
He fought alongside Gurkhas, Aussies, Canadians, Americans and almost every ally, and he fought alongside the Free Polish forces at Cassino, he told me they were the bravest troops he ever saw.
He's not alive to say it now. so I'll say it for him.
which said quote "without the poles you had only kids to fly your spitfires against the messerschmidts.."
there was 1822 RAF of which 339 died in whats called the Battle of Britain
during the Battle of France The Royal Air Force lost more than a thousand aircraft of all types over the Western Front during the six-week battle September 3, 1939 and June 24, 1940, the RAF lost 1,127 airmen, of whom 415 paid the supreme sacrifice.
Polish Mine detector -metal detector for landmines developed in 1941/1942 by Polish lieutenant Józef Kosacki. His discovery was not patented; he gave it as a gift to the British Army. 500 mine detectors were immediately sent to El Alamein where they doubled the speed of the British 8th Army. During the war more than 100,000 of this type were produced, Last versions was used by the British Army until 1995.
Stało się to dużej mierze dzięki Polakom, których służyło w lotnictwie w W. Brytanii ponad 17,000, z czego koło dwóch tysięcy straciło życie i około dwóch tysięcy było ciężko rannych, zestrzelili oni więcej samolotów niemieckich niż piloci angielscy. Rola Polaków w klęsce niemieckiej w „bitwie o Brytanię pogłębiła nienawiść Hitlera do Polski,w 1939 roku, w Europie najbardziej brutalnie niszczonym do czerwca 1941
Poland always helped everybody, and always was betrayed and kicked in the ass. for helping everybody. We contributed so much in WWII, and yet they still make fun of them for losing against the Germans within a month.
Thanks for compliments... I really estimate this...but why true is not polite? It`s not fuckin correction but fuckin supplement.. if We talk about manners of course.
Whenever you see a joke, or a book fact, or an arguement made by someone. You only see German & Polish conflict. Very rarely are Russians involved in it.
Thank you for your comments. Some people still get rather emotional over this issue, so please be forgiving. What does bother me with the discussion of "Germany's" invasion of Poland is that Russia is almost always left out of the conversation. I sincerely hope that the weasely, bastard Stalin is burning in hell along with his bitches Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini. Amen.
But didn't they brought in their military like they did for other eastern European countries? Was it not them who hired an assassin to kill John Paul the second?
Wasn't there a fight at the olympics after the war between Russian and Polish athletes because of an invasion that happened after the Polish team had left the country to play in the famous bloody water polo match?
"but...." and u waste a whole paragraph (and time) writing all this shit. I'm not gonna argue. I know what I'm talking about, and I don't need ur help. ("but"...)
So I say facts to prove my point and you deny them in a childish tantrum and don't prove your point. 1. You're from the U.S., not Poland, so don't act like you know everything about that country. 2. Americans are known to rewrite history with a bias outlook while ignoring some of the darker facts. So I suggest you check these facts yourself and then make a counter argument. You act like the Fox News Network. I even had a seminar on the bloody Olympic water polo game.
Ok, if the Polish contribution was so worthwhile, then dont hide behind questionable quotes, but state facts.
For example, how many german planes did Poles shot down and what percentage was that compared to the British? Because the great loss of planes was what made the Germans leave the plan to invade Britain.
Poles weren't a large in numbers nation. Never... It's pretty obvious that they couldn't make a bigger contribute then British if they were fewer in numbers. As far as I remember Poles took down 12% of Luftwaffe planes over those which were taken down during Battle of Britain. Remeber Pole is always fighting for freedom. No matter if it's hopeless, we always do and will do that with passion, sacrifice, rage. 303 was symbol that minority cam make a difference. 126 Nazis down...
But we still remember that ally. We still answer the call. Maybe symbolic, but from deep of our hearts. Poles weren't happy that US attacked Iraq, but they followed cause we're allies... We were first to fight if someone of our friends is in trouble. 9/11 for ex. We're a poor nation of proud people for who pride and honor is a matter of importance. Roosevelt sold Poland. He was agreeing for every Stalin word, and Churchil had no possition to argue.
1 in 8 of allied pilots was Polish, and the highest scoring squadron within the whole of Allied air forces was the Polish Air Force 303 (Kosciuszko) Squadron which accounted for 125 enemy planes. The highest scoring allied fighter pilot was also a member of that squadron. All told, the Polish pilots were responsible for 201 of the Luftwaffe's 1100 planes lost. If all pilots did as well as the Poles, the total number of enemy downs would have been over 1600.
Poland was state only 20 years after 123 years of partitions. We was after I war, Polish-Soviet war in 1920 and in 1939 started the new war with two strongest armies in this time in Europe.
But in 1939 We stand to fight again. Germans used in Poland 2 times more ammunition than in France 1940... and in 17 september Soviets come... We haven`t no much time to enough preparation to war. But either way We invent 7TP tank or Łoś bomber...
Silverbud: A machine without an operator is only a hunk of metal. The Polish aircraft of Sept 1939 were vintage 1931-1937, while German aircraft were vintage 1936-1939. Yet in aerial combat, German losses were greater (126-114). In addition, Polish anti-aircraft batteries brought down another 118 aircraft. Polish innovations adopted by the RAF were the finger-4 formation of a flight of fighters. Until that time, the RAF used the tactically inferior V-formation of 3 aircraft per flight.
A chciano nam zabrać zwyciąstwo na Monte Casino Anglicy chcieli pierwsi zawieśić flage i zabronili polakom zawieszać swojej przed ich, no ale ktoś miał w dupie ten rozkaz :) i zawiesił tak jak powinno być to nasza krew zdobyła ten klasztor.
my great grandfather was in the battle of britian, he was a british pilot who was ordered to see how good the 303. Squardron was and as he recorded before he could any shootdown a Nazi Bf 109 each time a Polish Pilot zoomed by him and shot his airplane down...
Na tym tle tym bardziej rzuca się w oczy skrajne przewlekanie patriotycznych przedsięwzięć, upamiętniających związki z Polską, choćby opóźnianie przez lata budowy pomnika Bolesława Chrobrego, a ostatnio budowy pomnika Wojciecha Korfantego, tak zasłużonego dla powrotu dużej części Śląska do Polski po 1918 roku. Wyraźnie jakby we władzach miejskich nie miano zbyt wiele serca dla tego typu inicjatyw.
Think what would happend if Britan get into hand of nazist? Europe today will call Naziland.
Our polish pilots grove morale in british forces
and decrese in deutch. Before end of WW2 we have bens sold to russia, other wise they wont join to aliance forces. Our officers have bein murder in Katyn we have recive Komunizm system. and moust of ppls think Poland lays in azia not in europe. This is reward for our hard fight with Nazist terror.
Polish soldiers was the best in WW2. Did someone know about Battle of Wizna if not there 720 polish soldiers was fighting with 42000 german soldiers+cannons+airforce FOR 3 DAYS.
I had the rare privilege of working at a University in the 1970s with a Polish veteran who after contending with the Luftwaffe in the skies over Poland, managed to make his escape to England where he joined the RAF and continued the fight to free not only his homeland but all Europe as well. He was a man of few words; quiet and modest though he was a walking, breathing hero to this American college student. I have never forgotten him.
polscy żołnierze walczyli o wolność na wszystkich frontach wtedy byliśmy potrzebni lecz wojna się skończyła i co ... czy ktoś nam pomógł gdy kacapy wleźli do Polski jak do siebie... no właśnie o wszystko musimy walczyć sami znikąd pomocy ! powiem tylko tyle Chwała Ci Polsko...Chwała Wam POLEGLI !
You speak the truth. Never trust the superpowers. They have a long history of breaking agreements to serve their own interests. Look at the crisis in the Middle-East over the past 100 years as a good example.
I can draw an analogy of both World Wars with a simple story, although the story is much more complex. It is like bees building a large nest. Then someone comes along and pokes the nest with a stick, and pokes again and again. Finally the bees come out and sting someone else standing near the nest. The assailant then exclaims that it is not my fault that the person got stung. He was too close to the bees and bees are just mean by their nature.
Must say thanks to the Poles for their help, but also don't forget that British pilots also fought as well. And alot of them. As for the person who put this up saying Churchill sold Poland out...well, its not our fault Germany invaded you, and why should we of helped you anyway? it had nothing to do with us, Hitler would of left Britain alone, it wasn't our duty to protect Poland, it was Polands. But you failed to do that, your fault not ours.
Please brush up on your history young man. The poles fought along side the British on the promise from Britain that Poland would be free after the war. Not handed over to Stalin to appease the tyrant. Not to justify what Hitler did, but yes, Britain was partially to blame for putting Germany in a desperate situation with the excessive amount of War Reparations that Germany had to pay. If some some big talker bragged that he could get you out of debt and restore your honour would you not follow?
After WWI, which was caused by France and Britain not wanting Germany to build the Berlin to Baghdad (Basra) railway. (not by the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand as taught in high schools). Germany experienced a great hyperinflation (actually devaluation of their currency). It literally took a wheelbarrel full of money to buy a loaf of bread. This along with the payment of war reparations made for a very desperate situation for the German population. Read history, it is fascinating.
That's where you are wrong Urinesauce. Yes it was not your duty to help Poland, IF YOU DID NOT PROMISE TO HELP! But you did promise. Another thing, you think Hitler would leave England alone?? You actually believe that?? My God, don't make me laugh!!
Well, i am a supporter of armed neutrality, i thinlk Britain should only ever go to war if we are directly attacked. It's nothing to do with us if another country is attacked. We should not of said we'd help Poland, i know that may sound harsh and nasty, but ah well. Also, Hitler wanted Britain to be his Ally, he didn't want to go to war with us as he greatly respected Britain. Yes, i think he would of left Britain alone, if he had mainland Europe he would not need England.
Sure Urinesauce, I agree that you don't have the obligation of helping anyone that's attacked, IF you don't have an agreement signed. If you sign an agreement, that if England is attacked Poland comes to help and if Poland is attacked England comes to help, it would be nice to uphold the agreement if one of the countries is attacked, correct? How would you feel if such an agreement took place (as it did) and England was the one to be attacked, and Poland then said, FU? That's cowardly, no!?
Also,Hitler would leave England alone just like he left Russia alone!He needed Russia's help in attacking Poland, then turned on Russia.Same thing would have happened with England.After he would have destroyed England, USA was next.Hitler had spies all over NY, German U boats along the Atlantic coast of USA.Mechanical emergency downed a German Uboat 50 miles from Long Island NY. Hitler wanted to fuck up England like any other European country. What you're saying is just a naive wishful thinking.
Yes i know all that. Doesn't matter anyway, it happened so long ago, we should just move on. And yes i agree he probably would of tried invading us, but i can't say because we didn't ally ourself with him. Thankfully.
Go play a video game you dumb american asshole! You don't know dick about Poland, you don't even know shit about america you fucking looser. A kid graduating from a Polish elementary school knows more about your country than you do. Did you know that 11% of americans can't find America on a map? 11 fucking %!!! I bet you're part of that 11 percent. The whole world is laughing at your american stupidity you dumb bitch!
Alright, well first off, the 11% of Americans that cannot find America on a map are probably between the ages of 1 and 3. Second, you say that I'm so stupid yet you tell me that I don't know dick about Poland. Dick? Really? I'm pretty sure know one knows dick about any country because that makes no sense and is just immature.
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Also, If you think that a Polish child getting out of elementary school knows more about Americas history than I do, I think that the schools in Poland need to spend more time on something else because they would have to spend all the time that they study history on Americas histroy. And you make it seem like Americas such a bad place with bad people, why do some people from other countries want to come here. Sounds sort of weird, right?
In order for a Polish child to graduate elementary school, that child needs to know EVERY country in the world, a little bit of its history and a little bit of its geography. What do you know about American history or geography? :) Did I say all Americans are bad? No, just most are dumb, like you. Why people come here to US? Land of opportunity for bussiness like nowhere else. Again, how much history and geography do you know about America? :)Yeah, now go back to your playstation.
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wow obviously that first part is acomplete lie because there is no way that kids coming out of elementary school know every country and little bit about them.I don't know the exact numer but theres around 200 countries in the world.I guarentee you tha children coming out of Polish elementary schools do not know all of them and a little bit about them. You are an idiot to even think that.
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All you say is that most Americans aredumb. All America is are people with ncestors from all different countries that came here to work together as one country. your pretty much saying that people from all countries are dumb then.
Most Americans that have been here for generations are what Europe farted out a long time ago.Leftovers and the lowest crap from Europe.(cowboys?) You think I'm lying about the level of education in Poland?LOL. How many languages do you know?European teenagers usually know two or three languages. Stop wasting my time and do some research about Europe. Obviously you had sunshine blown up your ass that you're so great and smart. Oh, yeah, how many Polish jokes do you know? LOL, the joke's on who?
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If kids coming out of elementary school had that type of brain capacity than Poland would be a much more powerful country. So yes I think your lying about education in Poland. My dads mom and dad came from Ukraine and Russian and my moms mom and dad came from Ireland and Italy. Thats 2 generations away from me. Not much. My mom and dad are both General surgeons so I would say that they're pretty smart and according to genetics they got their smarts from their parents from Europe.
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I'm sick of arguing with someone like you who can't seem to keep a nice conversation going without bringing in swears and the worst insults that you can think of. I hope you know that the only thing I have learned from this that I can take with me and truthfully believe is that people from Poland are ignorant and hate Americans even though our government is trying to help your country right now. You just seem to have no respect for anyone else but your own country.
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i am from israel. i am afraid of turkey. because turkey is stronger than us. please dont leave israel alone against turkey. please help us. TURKEY WILL SHOOT TO ISRAEL 2 MONHS LATER. ENGLAND MUST HELP US OR WE (THE JEWS) WILL FUCK YOUR ECOMOMY.
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Allies ecpecially Britain were good in talking, they declared war to Germany but that was only words. They had too much to lose. Nobody occupied their country, nobody shoot to innocent people on their streets or tortured them for nothing. Of course i don't blame ordinary people, it was all politician fault.
annaPolonia 6 months ago
My grandad was a Polish pilot of the RAF.
yabitchonmydikk 6 months ago 2
Poles crack Enigma, you have to approve it , and live with it. :)
kabanos279 6 months ago 9
Chwała bohaterom
Juvefan994 7 months ago 2
@WariorPL but if you look carefully in the past you will see that we must be more sophisticated. In 1939 we already lost when Jozef Beck did not manage to fit in to situation (with our neighbours)difficult times required difficult decisions. Now we are paying and still will be paying for his mistakes by working for traitors in new europe union!
Kardielg 7 months ago
they defended there own soil with pride and also defended the british soil, i cant understand why the polish should be ignored by churchhill,they fought for freedom,a northern irish guy thats gran lost 2 brothers in raf defending britian, god bless them all
danbit5 8 months ago
"British Goverment gave a recit to the Polish Goverment on exile in Londen"
Few know this but it important as hell to remember this. This says a lot of how the British Establishment treats others, as "tools" to be later betrayed if it is convenient.
ShakespearHD 8 months ago
drat yea! proud of my ancestry :D
meowandmeow 9 months ago
There are way too many negative comments on this thread, yes, Poland suffered more than any other European country in WW2, and the were betrayed by their allies at the end of the war.
The Polish people are entitles to be bitter about the way they were sold out by the Allies, but they should remember it was by conniving politicians, not British, French or American troops, who also fought bravely against their common enemy.
jackHNv 1 year ago 4
english journalist in return post such a bulshit like 'polish' death camp i really hate brittons get them down lets sue them all for 100 000 000 000 000 000 euros that will teach them how to respect the truth
just3ta 1 year ago
@just3ta Cześć. I can see you're active on this thread as well...
Again, I feel it's very inappropriate to raise such issues here, moreover in that kind of aggressive/ primitive form.
I understand you're a Polish patriot and where you're coming from, but this vid is aimed to commemorate the deeds of our brave pilots, who deserve due respect, in particular from their fellow countrymen.
Jackowski76 1 year ago 2
@just3ta Wyluzuj. Mnie to też złości ale to nie jest miejsce na odpowiedzialność zbiorową. Mnie mało obchodzi co myślą inni. My znamy historię i to mi wystarczy. BTW jak widać powyżej - wielu brytyjczyków też zna prawdę.
So chill out!
Serratus648 8 months ago
@Serratus648 i tu sie człowieku grubo mylisz...za wojny wywołane przez ojców płaca zbiorowo ich dzieci...za długi zaciagniete przez nas jako państwo zapłaci pokolenie naszych dzieci.... to jest odpowiedzialność zbiorowa...
just3ta 8 months ago
@just3ta No ok. Ale mimo wszystko nie bardzo mnie interesuje co oni o nas myślą, tak długo jak są z dala od polski. Ale muszę zapytać czy wg. Ciebie nie ma znaczenia fakt, że bardzo wielu brytyjczyków wstydzi się za Jałtę i tą całą sprawę z paradą zwycięstwa w Londynie po zakończeniu wojny?
Serratus648 8 months ago
Polish poelpe dont but proctr and gamble produts coz its uk trademark get them down
just3ta 1 year ago
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just3ta 1 year ago
@just3ta You are very wrong. I and the vast majority of British people are eternally grateful for the sacrifices made by the Polish people during WW2. Comments like yours are really unneccessary
aspiringdrummer17 1 year ago 5
All this rubbish about 'who is better' should stop, brave men from Poland in the UK fought side by side against an evil, brutal enemy in WW2, sacrificing their lives and youth, and won.
What happened after was nothing to do with them, and was the fault of politicians from all countries, some of the posts here disrespect the memory of brave men who aren't here to answer, and we should show them more respect.
jackHNv 1 year ago
@jackHNv They fought for britain and britain let them down, Poles and czech were the bes... we bought spitfires and hurricanes for OUR GOLD OUR PILOTS GIVED THEIR LIVES for britain and then churchil sold their homeland to stalin. thank you britain!
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just3ta 1 year ago
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You're welcome.
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Mój dziadek Sgt. Andrzej Rudel walczył na pewno w 301, 302, 307 (kr. klip video zaw. relacje kolegów, listy do Polski, odznaczenia, parę fotografii, fragm. przygotow do druku książki oraz inne - w moim kanale YoyTube i Facebook-u). Był pilotem i strzelcem samolotowym, zginął w nierównej, piekielnej walce 22 lipca 1942 r nad kanałem La Manche. Może ktoś go rozpozna?Przepraszam za złą jakość.
RomanRudel 1 year ago
watch on you tube a seriescalled world war two behind closed doors and see the real betrayal from rosevelt stalin and churchill usa uk and russia hang your heads in shame .
benaborkowski 1 year ago
@benaborkowski what, i'm not holding my head in shame for the idiocy of some politicains on affliated with me by nationality, who died before i was even born...
polands contributuion to the war was great though
Xen1aserman 1 year ago
@Xen1aserman you are right but eng ppl should showe more respect.
TrolNadTrolami 9 months ago
watch on you tube a seriescalled world war two behind closed doors and see the real betrayal from rosevelt stalin and churchill usa uk and russia hang your heads in shame
benaborkowski 1 year ago
Thank you for uploading!
Tome4kkkk 1 year ago
Polish Government in UK and France and all over the world paid by Polish People Gold. For all the help to UK and France we did. In Poland we had to pay to Uk and France from donations from the Poles and the Polish government in UK 1942 for saving the Brits by the Polish pilots.
PoloniaAmericas 1 year ago 4
@PoloniaAmericas So now the Brits were saved by the Poles...???
The Poles were excellent fighters, but the Poles were just one part of the BoB.
I believe you will also find that the highest scoring pilot in 303 [Polish] squadron was Josef František...a Czechoslovak fighter pilot.
JollyRodders 1 year ago
@JollyRodders Josef František say "I`m a Pole" to Czech officer and He don`t want fight with Czechs. Serious reason of Polish all the time talking abot Polish contribution in this war is that You deleted this part of history from books and conciousness. In this case Czechs was also forgotten exactly the same as We are. It`s not only Polish pilots, but also decoded Enigma, captured V1, Cassino, Warsaw Uprising etc. etc. We must remind this because You Has sclerosis.
licicaviki 1 year ago
@licicaviki "You deleted this part of history from books and conciousness" Rubbish...Anyone who studies WW2 knows about the contribution made not only by Poles, but others too from Europe and all across the world. Just don't get on your high horse about it. It was an international effort to defeat Nazism and just unfortunate for Poland that after the conflict was over geography dictated that it become a buffer zone between the West and Eastern Bloc. The real winner was the USA.
JollyRodders 1 year ago
@JollyRodders Yes real winner was USA... and Communist Russia. It`s no rubbish man... It`s a fact. Of course not now because We can openly talk about it...but shortly after war all Polish but also Czech contribution was forgotten for years. Polish soldiers who back to Poland were executed by communists,incarcerated in Soviet prisons.. We has almost civil war here.
licicaviki 1 year ago 3
@licicaviki I have to agree with Jolly. Anyone who knows anything about World War 2 knows about the contribution of the Poles. In fact I know Poles who escaped to England after the war and have never been back or wanted to go back to Poland. I know several 2nd generation Poles who regard themselves as English...Except, strangely enough, when England play Poland at football. If you ask alot of people they probably will not know anything much about WW1&2 but the internet is a wonderful thing.
TheDepotCat 1 year ago
@TheDepotCat Follow the proverb "Point of sit is point of view" We has different perspectives about it. It`s not true that Polish contribution was appreciated. For decades after the war the contributions of Rejewski and other Polish cipher experts to the Allied victory over Nazi Germany went unrecognised. British army used Polish mine detector invented by Józef Kosacki. He gave it for free to clear El Alamein minefields. Anybody don`t know nothing about it.
licicaviki 1 year ago 3
@licicaviki "For decades after the war the contributions of Rejewski and other Polish cipher experts to the Allied victory over Nazi Germany went unrecognised">>> When was Bletchley Park made officially known to the British public..?? That and other war secrets remained just that...secret...for decades. Some WW2 secrets are still emerging from Kew every year. The fact that Poles were instrumental in deciphering messages, and that's why it was not revealed, is a rather childish notion..
JollyRodders 7 months ago
@JollyRodders I love Your old, traditional, english "missing the fact Consciousness". Poles wasn`t "instrumental in deciphering messages" because when Poles first broke Enigma in 1932 You even don`t know that exist something like this. You started decode Enigma because Poles gave You in july 1939 Enigma-decryption techniques and first "cryptologic bombs" because We was allies. After war only Polish contribution in decoding Enigma was secret not the Turning fame.
licicaviki 7 months ago
@licicaviki Heh Heh - Sour grapes. And what about the Colossus. I suppose that was Polish too. That's why it must have been kept a secret for so long.
JollyRodders 7 months ago
@JollyRodders Nobody denied english contribution in decoding Enigma ... it was big, important, strategic and... very known... I read that first informations about Colossus on the west was published in 70-ties. You suggest that it was the only case of this silence? Decription of Enigma wasn`t known before 1970 at all?
licicaviki 7 months ago
@licicaviki One of the reasons the Enigma cracking remained secret up to 1975 is that the British government distributed the equipment based on this technology among many governments of t the third world countries to use for their secret internal communications. You may guess why ;-)))
Quidquid id est, timeo Danaos et dona ferentes.
factualinfo 6 months ago
@factualinfo It`s interesting fact. I like to learn so thank you very much. I must say that I catch different perspective about enigma now. I didn`t know that decription of enigma was secret so long on the west.But I must say that US/UK/Nazi movie "Enigma" of Michael Apted piss me off. My grandfather - veteran of WWII broke the tv screen with his prosthesis when he watch it. It was so fu....ng unfair. Greeks was also involved ;-)
licicaviki 6 months ago
@licicaviki that movie enigma was pure balls. worse than your average hollywood "based on true story" movie.
enzorussian 3 months ago
@JollyRodders unfortunate ? you do not know what you talking about. If you really want to know go to russian prison!
Kardielg 7 months ago
@Kardielg Yeah - That's right "unfortunate"...Don't you know the meaning of the word..??
JollyRodders 7 months ago
6:30 means everything ....
sylvek78 1 year ago
imczy jermyrz y wa inerpalzycz politcszinksnay mamy od odnym Polska do proszy komezny w niemcy takatukaland 1944! Nósz o woyskzczinskay blabla Warszawa nat y dat unglaublich hässliche Sprache!!
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I judged the Poles by their enemies. And I found it was an almost unfailing truth that their enemies were the enemies of magnanimity and manhood. If a man loved slavery, if he loved usury, if he loved terrorism and all the trampled mire of materialistic politics, I have always found that he added to these affections the passion of a hatred of Poland. She could be judged in the light of that hatred; and the judgment has proved to be right."
Gilbert Keith Chesterton
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Talib17stce 1 year ago
Long live Poland and the Polish people.......an honourable and noble people.
TheBeerNut1 1 year ago 75
@TheBeerNut1 to bad that europe left Poland after the war to the hands of the Soviets...
Specialy after the effort the polish did in the war...
dutchforces 1 year ago 5
W kazdym razie jestemy Narodem ktory jest bardzo ufnym jezeli chodzi o obietnice... od wschodu tak i od zachodu(od 1945 Do dzisiaj.).. Innego wyjscia nie mamy bo tylko nadzieja nam pozostala ...Jezeli ktos powie ,ze powinnismy to zmienic sami to moj komentarz jest taki..: POLAND FIRST TO FIGHT!!!.... i taka nasza dola...
MrMaverick1971 1 year ago 21
Nie chcialem komentowac ale musze,....Panie i Panowie jestesmy bardzo walecznym i oddanym krajem jezeli chodzi o walke o Wolnosc i Niepodloglosc...Walczylismy I walczymy w roznych wojnach o Wolnosc i Demokracje tym razem....Moja konkluzja jest taka: W IMIE CZEGO?
Ktos powie HONOR! zgadzam sie ale popatrzcie na naszych weteranow...jest w nich sila zycia ale sa zawiedzeni...Pamietajmy ,ze Wiekie mocarstwa dbaja tylko o swoje interesy..My jestesmy tylko narzedziem . Nad tym ubolewam...
MrMaverick1971 1 year ago 22
@MrMaverick1971 To nie jest kwestia ufności to jest kwestia braku alternatyw. Jaki mieliśmy wybór? Zakładać obozy koncentracyjne razem z Niemcami? Ogłosić się kolejną republiką sowiecką? No nie jest tylko nasz los to los całej środkowej Europy.
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jebać skurwysynów polakow do gazu z nimi polen Raus
Szkoda ,ze Adolf nie wypalil wszystkich polakow
TheKasha101 1 year ago
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lol, "liberation of Italy" hahah,
that's like saying: "saving Hitler from nazi Germany!" hahah
Verradonairun 2 years ago
MaximusProteus cala prawda ze Wielka Brytania zabrala Polsce czesc zlota z 1939 roku ale w czesnie Francja zaz zabrala na wyposarzenie Polskich Sil przed w wczasie inwazji Hitlera na Francje tak Francja i GB zaplacili za nasza pomoc i za Polska Enigme a pod koniec wojny bylo za pozwoleniem USA
Cobalt4you 2 years ago 31
Maybe the British didn't let you march in the victory parade, and although I am only one, I thank you now. Sto lat.
matador825 2 years ago 21
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matador825 2 years ago
Polacy powinni aliantom "fakturę" wystawić za całą II wojnę (zdrada w 1939, walki na obu frontach, Powstanie Warszawskie, okupacja sowiecka) nikogo tak jak Polaków nie zrobiono na szaro a teraz jeszcze o odszkodowania się upominają
PolishAmericanDC 2 years ago 21
Fakturę? Fakturę to nam Brytole wystawili za... walczenie na ich sprzęcie za ich wysepkę, zapłaciliśmy 3 mln funtów szterlingów w złocie, z tego złota ewakuowanego w 1939. Resztę oddano komunistom uznając ich władzę w Polsce i de facto nie uznając rządu na emigracji, który tym złotem dysponował.
MaximusProteus 2 years ago 26
utrudnienia i blokada dla Polakow aby dostac legalny status emigranta w USA
ostatnio bylem z moim pracownikiem
na 200 osob na ceremonii obywatelstwa USA 2 isoby z Europy jedna z Polski i jedna z Albanii, nikogo z Europy Zachodniej. czy to jest celowe?grandmother, who is 81 years old, was coming to spend the holidays with us. At Newark Airport she was handcuffed and taken to the deportation center in New Jersey
PolishAmericanDC 2 years ago 11
Zeby nie zapomnieli kto walczyl od poczatku do konca.
czaczaNN 2 years ago 16
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why pick the sewer, isn't that to easy for you to rise above... If I were driven to the brink of the abyss as that verfluchte Hund77 has driven you, I'd rather skip searching for insults, get some sleep and THINk (if that's not too stretchy ...)about something sophisticated, modern-day, machiavellian perhaps...Only joking.. Swap the 'sewer' for 'rigid brain' maybe...
Well, how else are you going to impress?
So far you haven't... Pretending may be your everyday routine, it always fails tho
amadrys77 2 years ago
Prunes. ....will delicately loosen your bowels... Pardon me, you're Polish...Must
explain, you seem constipated...
amadrys77 2 years ago
BUZZ I think your diagnosis of schizophrenia for amadrys is correct....
divustitus 2 years ago
May have, would've, maybe should've?Poles would then annex this island (after having routed Germany, by themselves, of koz) and finish it off like they have been doing to their beloved Vistula land
amadrys77 2 years ago
In reply to my explanation that "there were hardly any ethnic Poles in PPK"
AMADRYS77 wrote:
"Never heared of Rosa Luxemburg? Liebknecht"
It would be kind of funny if it was not so sad. I am simply overwhelmed by Amadrys77's outstanding ignorance.
He listed a Jew and a German to prove that PPK was Polish... (!)
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I rest my case.
PS. I am a big fan of everything British. Please dont assume that every Brit is like Amadrys.
factualinfo 2 years ago 3
...so polish...twisting, lying, falsifying...
Paid work, naturally... Seeking gains for neighbours' cousin's
great grandpah's supposed partaking in killing Messerschmits over Britain 65 ys ago, that's fraud... Typical sort of
amadrys77 2 years ago
Uncomfortable indeed. Katyn massacre, tabu subject in Poland. It was the PPK , Polish Communist Party (1905-48) who colaborated with the Soviets in the decapitation of J Pilsudski's Polish Army
as reprisal for the 1920 humiliating defeat of the Soviets in Poland. The PPK never stood trial for treason. Instead Poland keeps spreading accusations against the Wetern Powers like in this vid, because the majority of Poles were on Moscow's payroll for 40 years, their 'kids' still privileged jobwise..
amadrys77 2 years ago
'Buzav...' So, again, for 3 Polish engineers' ingenuity and work in Britain 70 years ago, all 40 million of new Poles, should receive British pensions, now? Or are you saying Britain woud lose WW ll without nonexistant Poland's 3 engineers, because they were educated at Warsaw superior polytechnique?
amadrys77 2 years ago
"For your freedom and ours" always...proud to be polish
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hey guess if the Polish air forced sucked they could always use British planes and fly FOR the RAF
gotcha109 2 years ago
1.PZL.37 Łoś was a Polish twin-engine medium bomber, used in the Invasion of Poland in 1939. Thanks to the laminar-flow wing it was one of the most modern bombers in the world before World War II.
2.The PZL P.11 was a Polish fighter aircraft, designed in the early 1930s by PZL in Warsaw. It was briefly considered to be the most advanced fighter aircraft design in the world. In 1939 was outdated.
Poland was free only 20 years after 123 years of partitions. You don`t know realities.
ferdovit 2 years ago 7
nanabijou62 2 years ago 11
@nanabijou62 Thank you very very much for the Memory.You are right "...will blossom with red from Polish blod" It's very illustrative.
Pozdrawiam
RYCHUFORDE 1 year ago
My mother told me when i was a child about the Polish, Czech,and others who flew for the RAF.
How better to defeat your enemy than give weapons and the means to the people from the country they now occupied to fight back.
To me some of these people take what we done in the war and belittle it
with statements like America saved your butt ect by WE i mean all the people who fought on even though nealy all of Europe had fallen to the Nazis.
talpore 2 years ago 3
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...noone wants to belittle anybody's achievements in battle, boy...Only when people steel Western glory and shout it as Polish only, that's when we smell frauds... // 32 nationalities fought as Allies, in Europe... Poles haven't noticed them? // And what barred the wehrmacht fron invading Britain? Mainly the Channel, boy. Then the RAF, also, the Luftwaffe ran out of fuel...Hence Baku...Stalingrad... And Poland was given to Stalin by PPK, Polish Communist Party...Not the West
amadrys77 2 years ago
hard job crossing the channel with the Royal Navy there as well.
talpore 2 years ago
In all fairness, the West decided to recognize PPK and treated it as legal government, despite the continued existence of the Polish government in exile (in London). PPK was, like the majority of communist parties of the time, merely an extension of the Soviet network of power designed to create a semblence of legitimacy of their takeover of everything East from Stettin to Trieste.
MickJayZ 2 years ago
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The text the woman's reading could only be written by Poles,,,, full of hype, twists
and self-promotion, to a degree of rendering Western armies inferior or nonexistant... Are Poles european?
amadrys77 2 years ago
No one is denying any troops of their contributions to the war effort. But in this one particular case, Polish veterans take extreme pride. Because they accomplished what the British, American, French and NewZealanders could not. They took the hilltop at Monte Cassino at a heavy cost of life. But this one victory opened the road to Rome. They were trained for a year, by Allied forces in the deserts of Egypt and later in the mountains of Lebanon to prepare. They did not let the Allies down.
nanabijou62 2 years ago 10
@nanabijou62 My late father fought through the whole of WW2, in Belgium, France, North Africa and Italy.
He fought alongside Gurkhas, Aussies, Canadians, Americans and almost every ally, and he fought alongside the Free Polish forces at Cassino, he told me they were the bravest troops he ever saw.
He's not alive to say it now. so I'll say it for him.
jackHNv 1 year ago 19
@jackHNv And very well said indeed. You paid him a great honour.
nanabijou62 1 year ago 5
@jackHNv
I'ved heard this sort of comment from some other allies as well. Thanks for sharing it as too much is lost to history.
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@jackHNv
I' have heard this sort of comment from some other allies as well. Thanks for sharing it as too much is lost to history.
MrSkiwicz 1 year ago
bit pissed off just been on a Polish blog
which said quote "without the poles you had only kids to fly your spitfires against the messerschmidts.."
there was 1822 RAF of which 339 died in whats called the Battle of Britain
during the Battle of France The Royal Air Force lost more than a thousand aircraft of all types over the Western Front during the six-week battle September 3, 1939 and June 24, 1940, the RAF lost 1,127 airmen, of whom 415 paid the supreme sacrifice.
talpore 2 years ago
Avro's chief designer, Roy Chadwick, had a little bit to do with the Lancaster as well you know
talpore 2 years ago
Polish Mine detector -metal detector for landmines developed in 1941/1942 by Polish lieutenant Józef Kosacki. His discovery was not patented; he gave it as a gift to the British Army. 500 mine detectors were immediately sent to El Alamein where they doubled the speed of the British 8th Army. During the war more than 100,000 of this type were produced, Last versions was used by the British Army until 1995.
ferdovit 2 years ago 6
Niemcy przegrali „bitwę o Brytanię.
Stało się to dużej mierze dzięki Polakom, których służyło w lotnictwie w W. Brytanii ponad 17,000, z czego koło dwóch tysięcy straciło życie i około dwóch tysięcy było ciężko rannych, zestrzelili oni więcej samolotów niemieckich niż piloci angielscy. Rola Polaków w klęsce niemieckiej w „bitwie o Brytanię pogłębiła nienawiść Hitlera do Polski,w 1939 roku, w Europie najbardziej brutalnie niszczonym do czerwca 1941
PolishAmericanDC 2 years ago 6
Pamiętamy o Was ,szanujemy Was ,NIGDY Was nie zapomnimy
komplikator1 2 years ago 3
Poland always helped everybody, and always was betrayed and kicked in the ass. for helping everybody. We contributed so much in WWII, and yet they still make fun of them for losing against the Germans within a month.
Kapiwolf123 2 years ago 4
We not losing in 1939 with Germans - We losing with Germans and Russians.
ferdovit 2 years ago
here I am trying to compliment Poland. And here is a Pole correcting me, you people really gotta learn fuckin manners.
Kapiwolf123 2 years ago
Thanks for compliments... I really estimate this...but why true is not polite? It`s not fuckin correction but fuckin supplement.. if We talk about manners of course.
ferdovit 2 years ago
Whenever you see a joke, or a book fact, or an arguement made by someone. You only see German & Polish conflict. Very rarely are Russians involved in it.
Thanks, bye.
Kapiwolf123 2 years ago
and Slovakians.
bardzoszybkibil 2 years ago
Thank you for your comments. Some people still get rather emotional over this issue, so please be forgiving. What does bother me with the discussion of "Germany's" invasion of Poland is that Russia is almost always left out of the conversation. I sincerely hope that the weasely, bastard Stalin is burning in hell along with his bitches Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini. Amen.
nanabijou62 2 years ago
Not to mention they were occupied by the Russians until the Berlin Wall went down. That must have been a reel kick in the ass.
Darcksaac 2 years ago
lol, learn history.
1) We weren't "occupied by the Russians" only influenced by them
2) In 1988 we got rid of the communist rule, BEFORE the Berlin Wall fell.
3) again. Learn history
Kapiwolf123 2 years ago 2
But didn't they brought in their military like they did for other eastern European countries? Was it not them who hired an assassin to kill John Paul the second?
Wasn't there a fight at the olympics after the war between Russian and Polish athletes because of an invasion that happened after the Polish team had left the country to play in the famous bloody water polo match?
Darcksaac 2 years ago
"but...." and u waste a whole paragraph (and time) writing all this shit. I'm not gonna argue. I know what I'm talking about, and I don't need ur help. ("but"...)
Thanks.
Kapiwolf123 2 years ago
So I say facts to prove my point and you deny them in a childish tantrum and don't prove your point. 1. You're from the U.S., not Poland, so don't act like you know everything about that country. 2. Americans are known to rewrite history with a bias outlook while ignoring some of the darker facts. So I suggest you check these facts yourself and then make a counter argument. You act like the Fox News Network. I even had a seminar on the bloody Olympic water polo game.
Darcksaac 2 years ago
why do you even bother writing so much if I dont't give a shit?
btw, I'm Polish, living in the U.S. Just b/c you looked at my profile, doesn't mean u know everything about me.
Kapiwolf123 2 years ago
God save ............... Canada
Thank you for all
topik77 Silesia, Poland
topik77 2 years ago 2
God bless Poland.
nanabijou62 2 years ago
Ok, if the Polish contribution was so worthwhile, then dont hide behind questionable quotes, but state facts.
For example, how many german planes did Poles shot down and what percentage was that compared to the British? Because the great loss of planes was what made the Germans leave the plan to invade Britain.
silverbud 2 years ago
Poles weren't a large in numbers nation. Never... It's pretty obvious that they couldn't make a bigger contribute then British if they were fewer in numbers. As far as I remember Poles took down 12% of Luftwaffe planes over those which were taken down during Battle of Britain. Remeber Pole is always fighting for freedom. No matter if it's hopeless, we always do and will do that with passion, sacrifice, rage. 303 was symbol that minority cam make a difference. 126 Nazis down...
LuDZioZJaD 2 years ago
In Battle Of Britain - Poles summary shot down something about 200 Nazi pilots...
ferdovit 2 years ago
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But we still remember that ally. We still answer the call. Maybe symbolic, but from deep of our hearts. Poles weren't happy that US attacked Iraq, but they followed cause we're allies... We were first to fight if someone of our friends is in trouble. 9/11 for ex. We're a poor nation of proud people for who pride and honor is a matter of importance. Roosevelt sold Poland. He was agreeing for every Stalin word, and Churchil had no possition to argue.
LuDZioZJaD 2 years ago
1 in 8 of allied pilots was Polish, and the highest scoring squadron within the whole of Allied air forces was the Polish Air Force 303 (Kosciuszko) Squadron which accounted for 125 enemy planes. The highest scoring allied fighter pilot was also a member of that squadron. All told, the Polish pilots were responsible for 201 of the Luftwaffe's 1100 planes lost. If all pilots did as well as the Poles, the total number of enemy downs would have been over 1600.
nanabijou62 2 years ago
silverbud: The Poles shot down some 700 German planes during WWII while operating out of Britain.
SillyGrandpa 2 years ago 9
Thanks to the brillant planes offered by the British and Americans. Yes your pilots were 10000 times better than the polish industry.
silverbud 2 years ago
Poland was state only 20 years after 123 years of partitions. We was after I war, Polish-Soviet war in 1920 and in 1939 started the new war with two strongest armies in this time in Europe.
But in 1939 We stand to fight again. Germans used in Poland 2 times more ammunition than in France 1940... and in 17 september Soviets come... We haven`t no much time to enough preparation to war. But either way We invent 7TP tank or Łoś bomber...
ferdovit 2 years ago 10
Silverbud: A machine without an operator is only a hunk of metal. The Polish aircraft of Sept 1939 were vintage 1931-1937, while German aircraft were vintage 1936-1939. Yet in aerial combat, German losses were greater (126-114). In addition, Polish anti-aircraft batteries brought down another 118 aircraft. Polish innovations adopted by the RAF were the finger-4 formation of a flight of fighters. Until that time, the RAF used the tactically inferior V-formation of 3 aircraft per flight.
MrPloopy 2 years ago 8
finger-4 formation of a flight of fighters.
The formation was initially developed during the Spanish Civil War by Luftwaffe pilots, most notably Werner Mölders and his fellow airmen
talpore 2 years ago
U now nothing about polish industry of these times, we can talk about lack of money rather than of skills of polish engeeners and industry.
JalaJala84 2 years ago 6
The Poles shot down 70000 messer-schmitz... More than were manufactured...
Because pilots kept kulling while asleep...
amadrys77 2 years ago
1.Poles shot down on the west 769 5/12 of all German aircrafts (including Messerschmitz).
2.Probable 177
3.Damaged 252 1/6
German pilots was so brave that in Battle of England when They see Polh pilots They jump from planes before shot.
ferdovit 2 years ago 3
Możemy i powinniśmy być dumni z Konstytucji 3 maja powiedział Lech Kaczyński podczas uroczystości na Placu Zamkowym
Dla czci tych, ktorych komuna nie chciala! Dziekujemy, nasze dusze i ciala Polakow z calego swiata sa z wamii zawssze beda.
PolishAmericanDC 2 years ago
Swięta prawda Polacy Górą :)
rexa007 2 years ago 2
A chciano nam zabrać zwyciąstwo na Monte Casino Anglicy chcieli pierwsi zawieśić flage i zabronili polakom zawieszać swojej przed ich, no ale ktoś miał w dupie ten rozkaz :) i zawiesił tak jak powinno być to nasza krew zdobyła ten klasztor.
Z10145 2 years ago
"if not for the Poles, the outcome of that battle would have been different. "
yes, the polish would have won the war alone! haha
silverbud 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up. Nobody say, that Poles won II war world alone...but if not Poles you will be in ass ;]
Igi903 2 years ago 2
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...and they did, didn't they?
amadrys77 2 years ago
lol, dont come it with poland saving britain now during the BOB. blether.
paulmanser 2 years ago
szkoda tylko ze az tak bardzo zlej jakosci
stokropek 2 years ago
my great grandfather was in the battle of britian, he was a british pilot who was ordered to see how good the 303. Squardron was and as he recorded before he could any shootdown a Nazi Bf 109 each time a Polish Pilot zoomed by him and shot his airplane down...
x0xErr0rx0x 2 years ago 6
Banning Polish troops was a disgrace.
oxonboy 2 years ago 6
point to You.
ferdovit 2 years ago 2
Thank you.
oxonboy 2 years ago
this is polish power!
kwas06 2 years ago 9
The British assassinated General Sikorski. Churchill and Roosevelt made a deal with the devil before the war started. Sad reality.
alleyesonme007 2 years ago 4
Na tym tle tym bardziej rzuca się w oczy skrajne przewlekanie patriotycznych przedsięwzięć, upamiętniających związki z Polską, choćby opóźnianie przez lata budowy pomnika Bolesława Chrobrego, a ostatnio budowy pomnika Wojciecha Korfantego, tak zasłużonego dla powrotu dużej części Śląska do Polski po 1918 roku. Wyraźnie jakby we władzach miejskich nie miano zbyt wiele serca dla tego typu inicjatyw.
PolishAmericanDC 2 years ago 2
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PolishAmericanDC 2 years ago
Dyvision 303 stand against vast armie of Nazist.
Do you find something symiliar? I found but i leave discover it for you.
Liquidazot 3 years ago
Think what would happend if Britan get into hand of nazist? Europe today will call Naziland.
Our polish pilots grove morale in british forces
and decrese in deutch. Before end of WW2 we have bens sold to russia, other wise they wont join to aliance forces. Our officers have bein murder in Katyn we have recive Komunizm system. and moust of ppls think Poland lays in azia not in europe. This is reward for our hard fight with Nazist terror.
Liquidazot 3 years ago
Polish soldiers was the best in WW2. Did someone know about Battle of Wizna if not there 720 polish soldiers was fighting with 42000 german soldiers+cannons+airforce FOR 3 DAYS.
Dimohn 3 years ago 2
"Polish soldier fight for freedom of other nations but die only for Poland" General Stanislaw Maczek
ferdovit 3 years ago 7
I had the rare privilege of working at a University in the 1970s with a Polish veteran who after contending with the Luftwaffe in the skies over Poland, managed to make his escape to England where he joined the RAF and continued the fight to free not only his homeland but all Europe as well. He was a man of few words; quiet and modest though he was a walking, breathing hero to this American college student. I have never forgotten him.
AinsleysRevenge 3 years ago 13
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Polski. Musimy stworzyc Polska Hasbora Project
zobatrz na google : " Hasbara" dla obrony Polski i polskich interesow i nas wszystkich. Kiedy jak najszybciej dzisiaj nie ma czsu do stracenia
PolishAmericanDC 3 years ago
polscy żołnierze walczyli o wolność na wszystkich frontach wtedy byliśmy potrzebni lecz wojna się skończyła i co ... czy ktoś nam pomógł gdy kacapy wleźli do Polski jak do siebie... no właśnie o wszystko musimy walczyć sami znikąd pomocy ! powiem tylko tyle Chwała Ci Polsko...Chwała Wam POLEGLI !
betiiiiii7777 3 years ago 8
WARSZAWA TO JEST MOJA OJCZYZNA
UIGUIH 3 years ago 6
A moją jest Poznań. I co? Pobijemy się :D
mitrowitz 3 years ago
We will never forget!
zaistewykurwiste 3 years ago 2
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wow polish people are a joke
NKrasowski 3 years ago
Polacy napiszcie do Ministra MSZ Radka Sikorskiego, dlaczego Polskie Ambasady na calym swiecie nie promuja takich filmow i historii Polski?
Lech Alex Bajan Washington DC
PolishAmericanDC 3 years ago 5
This is the movie that sums it up in the best way, how Poland got screwed. Unfortunately not many people care. LONG LIVE POLAND!!!
plsniper 3 years ago 5
You speak the truth. Never trust the superpowers. They have a long history of breaking agreements to serve their own interests. Look at the crisis in the Middle-East over the past 100 years as a good example.
nanabijou62 3 years ago
I can draw an analogy of both World Wars with a simple story, although the story is much more complex. It is like bees building a large nest. Then someone comes along and pokes the nest with a stick, and pokes again and again. Finally the bees come out and sting someone else standing near the nest. The assailant then exclaims that it is not my fault that the person got stung. He was too close to the bees and bees are just mean by their nature.
nanabijou62 3 years ago
Must say thanks to the Poles for their help, but also don't forget that British pilots also fought as well. And alot of them. As for the person who put this up saying Churchill sold Poland out...well, its not our fault Germany invaded you, and why should we of helped you anyway? it had nothing to do with us, Hitler would of left Britain alone, it wasn't our duty to protect Poland, it was Polands. But you failed to do that, your fault not ours.
Urinesauce 3 years ago
Please brush up on your history young man. The poles fought along side the British on the promise from Britain that Poland would be free after the war. Not handed over to Stalin to appease the tyrant. Not to justify what Hitler did, but yes, Britain was partially to blame for putting Germany in a desperate situation with the excessive amount of War Reparations that Germany had to pay. If some some big talker bragged that he could get you out of debt and restore your honour would you not follow?
nanabijou62 3 years ago
After WWI, which was caused by France and Britain not wanting Germany to build the Berlin to Baghdad (Basra) railway. (not by the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand as taught in high schools). Germany experienced a great hyperinflation (actually devaluation of their currency). It literally took a wheelbarrel full of money to buy a loaf of bread. This along with the payment of war reparations made for a very desperate situation for the German population. Read history, it is fascinating.
nanabijou62 3 years ago
That's where you are wrong Urinesauce. Yes it was not your duty to help Poland, IF YOU DID NOT PROMISE TO HELP! But you did promise. Another thing, you think Hitler would leave England alone?? You actually believe that?? My God, don't make me laugh!!
plsniper 3 years ago 3
Well, i am a supporter of armed neutrality, i thinlk Britain should only ever go to war if we are directly attacked. It's nothing to do with us if another country is attacked. We should not of said we'd help Poland, i know that may sound harsh and nasty, but ah well. Also, Hitler wanted Britain to be his Ally, he didn't want to go to war with us as he greatly respected Britain. Yes, i think he would of left Britain alone, if he had mainland Europe he would not need England.
Urinesauce 3 years ago
Sure Urinesauce, I agree that you don't have the obligation of helping anyone that's attacked, IF you don't have an agreement signed. If you sign an agreement, that if England is attacked Poland comes to help and if Poland is attacked England comes to help, it would be nice to uphold the agreement if one of the countries is attacked, correct? How would you feel if such an agreement took place (as it did) and England was the one to be attacked, and Poland then said, FU? That's cowardly, no!?
plsniper 3 years ago
Also,Hitler would leave England alone just like he left Russia alone!He needed Russia's help in attacking Poland, then turned on Russia.Same thing would have happened with England.After he would have destroyed England, USA was next.Hitler had spies all over NY, German U boats along the Atlantic coast of USA.Mechanical emergency downed a German Uboat 50 miles from Long Island NY. Hitler wanted to fuck up England like any other European country. What you're saying is just a naive wishful thinking.
plsniper 3 years ago 3
Yes i know all that. Doesn't matter anyway, it happened so long ago, we should just move on. And yes i agree he probably would of tried invading us, but i can't say because we didn't ally ourself with him. Thankfully.
Urinesauce 3 years ago
Yes, You're right. Thankfully. Alliance with Hitler was then called "the kiss of death", meaning you're next.
plsniper 3 years ago
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shut up
NKrasowski 3 years ago
Go play a video game you dumb american asshole! You don't know dick about Poland, you don't even know shit about america you fucking looser. A kid graduating from a Polish elementary school knows more about your country than you do. Did you know that 11% of americans can't find America on a map? 11 fucking %!!! I bet you're part of that 11 percent. The whole world is laughing at your american stupidity you dumb bitch!
plsniper 3 years ago 5
Alright, well first off, the 11% of Americans that cannot find America on a map are probably between the ages of 1 and 3. Second, you say that I'm so stupid yet you tell me that I don't know dick about Poland. Dick? Really? I'm pretty sure know one knows dick about any country because that makes no sense and is just immature.
NKrasowski 3 years ago
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Also, If you think that a Polish child getting out of elementary school knows more about Americas history than I do, I think that the schools in Poland need to spend more time on something else because they would have to spend all the time that they study history on Americas histroy. And you make it seem like Americas such a bad place with bad people, why do some people from other countries want to come here. Sounds sort of weird, right?
NKrasowski 3 years ago
In order for a Polish child to graduate elementary school, that child needs to know EVERY country in the world, a little bit of its history and a little bit of its geography. What do you know about American history or geography? :) Did I say all Americans are bad? No, just most are dumb, like you. Why people come here to US? Land of opportunity for bussiness like nowhere else. Again, how much history and geography do you know about America? :)Yeah, now go back to your playstation.
plsniper 3 years ago 2
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wow obviously that first part is acomplete lie because there is no way that kids coming out of elementary school know every country and little bit about them.I don't know the exact numer but theres around 200 countries in the world.I guarentee you tha children coming out of Polish elementary schools do not know all of them and a little bit about them. You are an idiot to even think that.
NKrasowski 3 years ago
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All you say is that most Americans aredumb. All America is are people with ncestors from all different countries that came here to work together as one country. your pretty much saying that people from all countries are dumb then.
NKrasowski 3 years ago
Most Americans that have been here for generations are what Europe farted out a long time ago.Leftovers and the lowest crap from Europe.(cowboys?) You think I'm lying about the level of education in Poland?LOL. How many languages do you know?European teenagers usually know two or three languages. Stop wasting my time and do some research about Europe. Obviously you had sunshine blown up your ass that you're so great and smart. Oh, yeah, how many Polish jokes do you know? LOL, the joke's on who?
plsniper 3 years ago 7
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If kids coming out of elementary school had that type of brain capacity than Poland would be a much more powerful country. So yes I think your lying about education in Poland. My dads mom and dad came from Ukraine and Russian and my moms mom and dad came from Ireland and Italy. Thats 2 generations away from me. Not much. My mom and dad are both General surgeons so I would say that they're pretty smart and according to genetics they got their smarts from their parents from Europe.
NKrasowski 3 years ago
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I'm sick of arguing with someone like you who can't seem to keep a nice conversation going without bringing in swears and the worst insults that you can think of. I hope you know that the only thing I have learned from this that I can take with me and truthfully believe is that people from Poland are ignorant and hate Americans even though our government is trying to help your country right now. You just seem to have no respect for anyone else but your own country.
NKrasowski 3 years ago