Actually, the presence of quantum mechanics and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle makes it a bit more complex. Add to that the hard problem of consciousness, and it really isn't clear whether we have what can reasonably be seen as a subjective choice.
What you speak of is dead on. I have long since abandoned the belief of conscious will due to the underlying mechanics of the human brain, The brain is biological organ whose output is determined by given inputs and cannot freely do as it pleases.
Keep making this videos girl you ROCK! Not just cause you hot (thats a bonus) but due to your amazing intellect and capacity for understanding. Dawkins ideas must be spread like wild fire!
Of course you aren't free. You are there simply because your parents forgot to use contraceptives on that faithful day and you happened to circle around the certain part of your dad's balls to give you the best timing of all of the other sperms. :D
Well... evidence has also suggested that your memories and experiences are what make up YOU. They are not pre determined. Sure, weither or not you like chocolate might be, but something as strange as intimacy issues or low self esteem are majorly made up by your expirences.
Look at a spoiled entitled rich kid, they act like that because that is how there parents brought them up... Not because that is how they were pre-destined to act. That is why we see the trend of spoiled kids acting similr
Maybe true. But still we have the choice to do one thing or the other by thinking it through. . Our thoughts and feeling will influence our decisions just as the circumstances we find our self in. But at the end of the day we could still think through what is best to do and act on it if we choose. Deciding to go to college when you do not feel like it could be a decision you choose because you do not want to fall behind on work That's not genes that is a choice through reason.
She's only stating the incredibly obvious, but her beauty makes it fascinating to listen to. Also, a startling number of people fail to grasp these manifest truths she is saying. She's like a less abrasive, beautiful, two-eyed version of me. She may well be able to get the point across better than my loudmouth, hard-fightin', hard-fartin' ugly ass. To quote Ricki Lake in the early nineties and every other show in the rest of the nineties, "You go girl!"
another flaw...who is arguing there is no causal laws that govern our lives, thats just dumb, of course if my dad has anger issues I am likely to have them, or cancer or whatever..same goes to environment, you will be like your environment but by no means does that 100% say you will be PREDICTABLE in your behavior but PROBABLE. Take statistics young girl and get back with me ;) Its all about probability that certain results occur and that leaves a large room for 'freedom' or choice to change.
stupid argument b/c while some situations cause and effect have a direct impact other situations it has less or none. Even more so to the issue of being 'free', if I have 10 shirts to wear on a day I can chose anyone at random, or based on an external factor or what ever. Now I chose to randomly chose it, or chose to wash 5 others and give me a batch of 15 to pick from or not. I chose it, yes if a brick falls on my head I go to the ER but not all situations = not free.
Baby I want you to be "there" with me. I need your tiny nose, beautiful face, and adorable voice. I want to forgive but I dont want to lose the faithful, hope they like you as much as I do. If you know something is wrong then you should stop doing it. For example: Would you murder your little brother if you realized how wicked that act would be?.... Different subject: what's your favorite "candy"?
Then just go up to someone and punch them in the face for no reason, you wouldn't!!! You're speculating on phantom scenarios, and not reality. I must invoke you to get punched & then I would have to accept the effect thats all & so would you.. 'Deserve' is a subjective reaction depending on a persons ontological psychology upbringing. Karma not a shallow subject. As you sow, so you shall reap.
The secret is that we are NOT the body. We are the conscious spiritual entity within the body. The body is part of gross & subtle nature, so it's subjected to 3 (goodness,passion,ignorance)material laws called karma or cause & effect. To access or transcend to our higher consciousness you have to surrender to the supreme absolute truth & then you become free from cause & effect(relative truth). Until you find your true ID, that's beyond space & time, we suffer inside. Due to false ego.
I tend to disagree. DNA sets up boundaries in terms of personality and talents, and we choose within those limits. I am really good at math and science, I play the piano and I like people. so I can choose a career as a math teacher, or a professional pianist, or a myriad of other things. but I probably won't major in a subject, such as history, in college if I'm not good at it
Is anyone else sick of these amateur videos where the footage keeps cutting? It's like these inbred youtube vlogger morons can't keep a sentence together for more than 5 seconds.
I like the background tune. Whether we ultimately have free will or not doesn't matter to me because we experience something that we interpret as free will either way. Or at least I do, and I assume other people experience it as well because they talk about it.
By analogy, I know the earth isn't flat, but I don't take the curvature of the earth into consideration in anything I do. Pilots and astronauts, sure...
@HitfulVids that's a pretty apt analogy, but while we know the Earth is curved, there is considerably more debate on whether free will exists on a fundamental level. really, doesn't it interest you to ask the big questions and do research on what's actually going on, rather than what we perceive. what you're essentially advocating is voluntary ignorance, and I can't really choose to enjoy that.
you make me feel so smart sometimes :) i came to the conclusion that ever action i made was a result of a combo of experiences and genetics when i was like 10-13.but i still think genetics is more like a weak ''puller'' one way or another,and not that strong a predicter,unless your in a at risk situations
This also applies to much of self sacrifice and other good deeds, when done secretly (or when leading to death) there is no biological reason for this behaviour, and indeed it runs contrary to many instincts (remembering that ALL genes in the human genome are PRO life, none of them serve to limit breeding or lifespan unless they are mutations). And obviously conditioning cannot be stronger than biological determinants (we would eat anything if we are starving). So this behaviour shouldn't happen
It is also flawed on a more basic level, think of Buhdda. He came from an extremly wealthy family and their would have been almost unimaginable preassure on him to stay within the lifestyle expetcted of him. To the point that no one would have even considered the possiability of him leaving. And there is clearly no biological determinent that would predispose a person to abandon their life style. So why would they?
This area of thinking has been smashed in recent years by a series of disappointing findings as the the number (and variety) of genes and their responcabilities. The total genese that where discovered in human DNA were less than one-thenth of what was expected when this kind of theory was on the rise, and less than one sixth of the number needed to account for its part of the decision making process as described by the theory.
@S0lsed: i dont think you answered her problem with morality. what she is saying is that only free people and people who have all their mental faculties can be held morally responsible and we AREN'T free ( i dont agree with this by the way). also all you did was explain how morality allegedly is part of the human condition. which rises the problem: if what your saying is the case then morality is relative. if morality is relative murder,rape, stealing etc are all not really objectively bad.
@S0lsed: i dont think you answered her problem with morality. what she is saying is that only free people and people who have all their mental faculties can be held morally responsible and we AREN'T free ( i dont agree with this by the way). also all you did was explain how morality allegedly is part of the human condition. which rises the problem: if what your saying is the case then morality is relative. if morality is relative murder,rape, stealing etc are all not really objectively bad.
@S0lsed: i dont think you answered her problem with morality. what she is saying is that only free people and people who have all their mental faculties can be held morally responsible and we AREN'T free ( i dont agree with this by the way). also all you did was explain how morality allegedly is part of the human condition. which rises the problem: if what your saying is the case then morality is relative. if morality is relative murder,rape, stealing etc are all not really objectively bad.
why is it that ALL of my family prefers material and mental security and I chose to try a life in the Philippines? i failed miserably, no need to say, but i experienced what it is to live as a poor person in a 'third world country'. my mom bailed me out of course. but the question (my sis has a phd, my bro a comp programmer..) why do i do these things? i could've been 'successful' in life but i choose to do these things.. what's the cause? no idea!
The best you can do is effect nature and nurture for the next generation. Of course whether or not you do that is not up to you, but your own nature and nurture.
From time to time, we do make choices. Occasionally, situations arise in which we are able to recognize our own habits... and pause for a moment before reaffirming them. Sometimes we don't have the will to change our minds even then, or simply choose not to... and sometimes we do.
On the other hand, sometimes a situation arises that one simply doesn't have a precedent for. There is no habitual response. There may or may not be factors to predispose us to a certain decision, though.
The conditioning of our genetics and history does have a huge impact on the way we live our lives... We are not free... Completely, anyway.
However, nor are our actions and decisions completely predetermined. Your brother hates bananas... but several years from now, he may decide to try them again and revise this decision on how to react to them. Or not.
Thankfully, not all of our lives are lived purely by habit. Habits are 90% or more of what we do... BUT... (continued)
True! All three of my kids do a similar strange behavior with their toes (the put the big toe on one foot between the big toe and the one next to it on the other foot) that I do. I only do it when I sleep, so they haven't seen me do it (environmental). Before having kids I thought nature vs nurture was 50 - 50, but now I think nature is closer to 90%.
Look up Nichiren Daishonnin and SGI there is an entire branch of Buddhism that believes Cause and Effect to be the mystic law of the universe :-) pretty cool stuff.
You are right that our environment and our past experiences do influence our decisions today. However, you could choose to let an experience not effect you (by intentionally trying to ignore it or forget it), or you could have a completely unique reaction to an experience in a way which most people wouldn't react. Some people listen to the Beatles and rock out... some people think that is the cue to kill John Lennon (Mr. Chapman). We have less choice than we think... but it is still there.
Your environment also leads to your genetics because at the very least it leads to your ancestors' actions which led them to procreate at the times they did, resulting in you, and at the most it can be considered to have led to all of the events that led up to you.
Environment doesn't create situations in which you have no choices. It creates situations in which it then makes you choose in particular ways. You do still make the choices, regardless of the fact that you may have been destined to.
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Brilliant AND beautiful! Hope you got an A.Without free will, punishment still makes sense because it has the effect of deterring future crimes by both the perpetrator and by others who see the culprit being punished. What the elimination of free will does is remove the element of moral judgment from punishment. The sole reason for punishing people is to deter the commission of future crimes, not to make moral statements about the culprit's character or to seek vengeance.
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If this became accepted as fact by the entire human race... well, atheists (for the most part) would behave no differently then before. Those who have external morality will (upon the sudden realisation that all of thier beliefs are invalid) act out. They usually become atheists/agnostics/deists IN TIME. If this happened all at once, for over 80% of the world population, well...
Determinism vs moral responsibility is simple when you boil down to it. We react in predictable patterns because genetics, and experience, write those patterns into our brains. But human beings can change those patterns with time and effort to pretty much whatever we desire. This is pretty much the basis of psychiatry. Free will is that ability to stop and make another choice. Carl Sagan said, "No longer at the mercy of our reptile brains, we can change OURSELVES. Think of the possibilities!"
@daiopowen : The problem with this view is that if we assume determinism, then any wish, urge or thought you have will be the result of your genetics, previous experiences and current stimuli. This means you couldn't wish to or do something without this being an unavoidable result of the mentioned factors.
However, the whole argument of free will vs determinism is rather unimportant, as it has no real world impact what ever the solution to it is.
@daiopowen You're right. But the thing is that what we choose to change into is rarely our own true personal decision, but rather just a symptom of the society and environment we happen to live in. True change is possible, not probable, hence the use of the word " possibilities", as opposed to probabilities.
This is a subject that I swing back and fore on. Ultimately I don't think we have enough of the facts yet to say for sure whether it's one way or the other. We simply don't know enough of what's going on in the quantum world to answer that question. We should not say that this IS the way it is until every stone has been turned. Good video though and well made. Very nice lighting and you're gorgeous lol :-)
@warriorspikes51 I feel sorry for a man too ignorant to not spread anything other than hate and negativity on videos of which a person has worked hard to express their own beliefs, and trying not to do anything other than observe and comment on others. I feel sorry that you believe in something that has never done anything, and not humanity as a whole that has done everything. I feel sorry for you, my friend, i feel sorry for you.
Or maybe you're trying to prove or convince yourself you have no free will so you don't have to be responsible or feel guilty for your thoughts or actions.
Everything has a cause, true. But we are still offered choices and are free to choose. Many people choose things that are not in their best interests.
You OBVIOUSLY believe in evolution, So...why would your brother, that's your "Ape like" cousin ancestor, hate BANANAS, I would LOVE for you to respond to me, so we could have a one on one debate, but... you'll probably never read this massage.
@ironman197268 Just to clarify, we evolved from a monkey-like creature that also evolved into monkeys. We didn't evolve from today's apes (mainstream ignorance is astounding). Besides, your comment is somewhat ridiculous-"all monkeys love bananas!" That isn't a logic statement, and I sincerely hope that you were joking. So, what wuld you like to debate?
@Andy32268 First of all, human beings didn't EVOLVE from anything, God Yahweh created us in our original form. So, when did I say we evolved from a monkey? I didn't, I said an ape like cousin ancestor, and even put it in quotes. And Yes, I was totally joking, considering I believe evilution is the 2nd BIGGEST lie known to man. You're going to wish your response to me was a joke, if you want to take on the ironman in a debate on evolution!!
@ironman197268 Out of curiosity, since I am so ignorant, what is the 1st BIGGEST lie known to man? Religion? Gravity? Ice cream? Since "evilution" (that is so cute!) is only the 2nd.
@Andy32268 The big bang theory would be the number 1 biggest lie in the world. If Humans and monkeys evolved from the same ape like ancestor, why are humans so much more advanced than our monkey cousins, and where is all the billions of hominid skeletons in the so called fossil record?
@ironman197268 ...Billions. Billions of hominid skeletons. That is the most ridiculous standard of proof I have ever heard. Vestigial structures are pretty good evidence-why do humans have apendixes? 1 in 100,000 people are born without one and they operate completely functionally. I'm not going to argue the Big Bang because I frankly don't know everything and I am comfortable with it. How is the Bible a greater authority than logical, scientific observations? Curious again, since you know all.
@Andy32268 Well, I see it doesn't take much to get you FIRED up! Yes,billions of hominid skeletons. This would be simple, and easily observable evidence. Where is it? The appendix, please!! That's part of your immune system, sure you can live without it, just like you can live without your teeth, hands, feet, stomach, reproductive system and so on. That's got to be the WORST argument for evilution ever!! Now, where did you say those HOMINID skeletons are,where did the space for the BB come from?
@ironman197268 The Big Bang Theory isn't synonymous with Biological Evolution, so I'm not going to address that as I don't claim to be omnicient (I don't know everything about the expansion of space, basically). The appendix has just as much use as the folded second eyelids in the corner of your eye (the corner close to your nose has this, it is the second, clear pair many animals use underwater for extra protection). I'm sorry, I've run out of space, and I don't stoop to continuing comments.
@Andy32268 Oh, and The Bible, The Bible is logical and, scientifically observable. Just think about "atoms molecules, protons, etc." Now read Hebrews 11:3.
@ironman197268 Great. You found a quote in the Bible that can be considered scientific (now, not then). Reminds me of the Qu'ran. I'm wondering, do you eat shellfish? Read Leviticus 11:10. I love Leviticus. And, returning to the scientific authority of the Bible, try...hmmm...oh yeah, Genesis! That is so scientifically accurate isn't it? By the way, I'm wondering what your response to vestigial structures is, as you completely avoided the statement, probably because you don't have a retort.
@Andy32268 Some how I missed this one. Leviticus 11:10, I'm assuming you believe that means it's a sin for Christians to eat shellfish? If so, you're doing what the atheists and Bible haters do best, take passages "out of context" Those verses are referring to the children of Israel, what they should and should not eat. Second eyelids huh, That's even Worse than the appendix. Those things are part of the eyes lubricating system, how did evolution know the eye were going to need lubricating?
@ironman197268 Now I have space again! The appendix is basically a "back up" for the helpful bacteria such as those in the stomach. A disease that kills such bacteria in the stomach would not kill all of them, as there are back ups in the appendix. However, it is no longer needed for the process, because the close contact of society allows for human to unwittingly take each other's stomach bacteria. It was only necessary because of disease, which God supposedly created.
@ironman197268 #1 A vestigial structure has little to no function, not no function whatsoever. #2 The appendix does not provide immunity to the diseases, it provides back up bacteria for certain other organs. #3 Point #1 applies to plica semilunaris just as much as the appendix. #4 Vestigial structures show clear connections to ancestorial past, whether or not they have a minor purpose. #5 I'm curious, are you a Young Earth Creationist? #6 Religion is the assertion, provide evidence please.
@ironman197268 Yes, I told you exactly what the purpose of the appendix is. It is a purpose that is no longer necessary due to societal contact, that was only ever necessary due to disease, which God must have created in your view (tell me if I'm wrong). If you are a Young Earth Creationist, I'm simply curious as to what your response to fossils are, such as those of dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are a cliched topic in this debate, but prove to me they are either #1 in the Bible or #2 a falsehood.
@Andy32268 All right, enough about the appendix then. Dinosaurs in The Bible, dinosaurs are very much in The Bible. Job 40:15, and chapter 41 has some great descriptions. Dinosaurs are mentioned all throughout The Bible.
@ironman197268 Job 41:21, with its reference to breathing fire, makes it obvious that the Bible is describing a dragon. Give me another mention in the Bible that is not a description of a dragon, please.
@ironman197268 Did you not get my message, or are you backing out of the argument? If you did not recieve my message, you can look at the comments list in the video.
@Andy32268 That depends on which message you're talking about. The comment layout on this video "Shuffles Around" every time I come back here, and even when I going back and forth through the comment pages. If you're talking about The Bible describing another dinosaur... I already did, Job 40:15
@ironman197268 Yes, that is the message. Job 40:15 is frankly too short to consider, as it could refer to anything large that eats grass. If dinosaurs are "very much in the Bible," then you must be able to provide more references.
@Andy32268 Genesis isn't scientific? The very first chapter and verse is loaded with it, Earth= matter, Beginning= Time, Heaven= Space, Light= Energy. What about the dimensions of the Ark? The Ark had a 6 to 1 ratio which is the same dimensions the ASA use today. How did Moses know the best time to circumcise a male child is when he is 8 days old? Hey, why don't you go have all you so called vestigial body parts removed? You could help speed up the evilutionary process!!
I don't entirely agree with you - what you say is true to some extent, but we as humans have evolved to the point where (if we want to) we can make choices contrary to our biology and genetics, thereby somewhat over-riding the cause and effect thing. The first thing is individual awareness of this. People who are unaware live more by their genetic dispositions. People who are more self-aware and realize they have a choice can over-ride this and step outside it. BTW - you are cute ;-)
I tend to agree partially with determinism, but I don't think it completely answers how things work. Is there such a thing as true randomness? If so, then free choice may be possible, since not all outcomes will be entirely deterministic . For this we have to look at the quantum realm. Science has not answered the question yet. I suspect personally that it will be discovered that randomness can exist at the quantum level - with some extra dimension providing the causation -the realm of the soul?
You know, I think I've learned a lot from watching you're videos. Maybe I am not free, but the things I have learned only sense watching you're videos... has helped me with making better decisions and being more confident. I think anyone would prefer to believe they have free will, but I think you can learn to be who you want to be ultimately.. Who can ever know for sure though...
There is a very strong argument that says there are no 'Natural Laws of Nature', there is only a description of phenomena that have occurred and projections based on inductive logic. We are not constrained by natural laws; every decision that we make creates a "tiny subset of a universal 'law of nature'". The argument goes on, but no room for it here. I tend to prefer hard science rather than psychology and certainly philosophy. Does anyone even major in philosophy anymore?
I know what the hell to do. lol Make everyone believe that determinism is true, and the ones who decide to not still be moral..KILL EM OFF! and eventually all the ppl left will be the ones who will keep being good even if they know it is not because of nonphysical will.
If you go deeper into the molecules in the DNA, they area made up of atoms which are best described with quantum mechanics. In quantum mechanics, everything is probabilistic. I'm over simplifying it here because I'm trying to get the point across in laymen terms that determinism is not true. Look up Bell's Theorem and the implications of it and try to understand it. Nature is fundamentally probabilistic. Some physicists argue that this is a sort of real "free will".
Hi Laci, My advice for coping with the awful truth you have found: Just enjoy the illusion of free will and if something disappoints you then blame it on determinism as theists blame it on supernatural beings ;) Enjoy your "freedom" and consider that to be able to follow the chain reaction that brought you to this moment one would need to know the position and momentum of every single particle in the universe which is, to the best of my knowledge, impossible in principle. ΔxΔp≥ħ/2 Best wishes, J
determinism that is outside the possibility of calculation behaves unlike determinism. So the universe is not deterministic. refer to laplace's demon. If an entity could calculte the result of cause and effect it must take its own influences into account....its a self referential paradox. For this reason it is possible for both cause and effect to be true and determinism to be false.
I love this video because I've been saying this for years, and it's so rare to find someone who agrees. People seem to hate rejection of the idea that they're free.
thinkers are capable of moving outside of any system since they dont limit themselves... however be warned, after you start to realize the truth.. things can never go back to how they were..
an example... if i wanted to i could walk up to someone on the street and slit their throat, i dont actually need a reason, however since i dont Believe in unmotivated aggression, i dont. We have the option to do anything, however only someone who is beyond all forms of control (law,Ethics, Morals, Religion, Ect.) will act outside of those confinements... so yes, you are partially correct, if you understand the systems in which a person operates in, that person then is predictable, however freet
ofcourse its cause and effect, but you have it topsy turvy, your brother made the choice that he doesnt like bananas, and he sticks with that choice, if he were to eat a banana and then get sick, then he has no choice but to avoid the banana, otherwise that is his choice, and i agree with your opinion on the disease... that is one thing you have no choice over... but everything else is decided, atleast for an actual free thinker who isnt brainwashed by their environment. such as let me give you
There just is not enough information to make a judgement on this yet. It the kind of science that scientists 50 years from now look back on and laugh about. People just hate not knowing so they make up their minds too soon.
In a sense, it can be said by the crime-committers that they are not to be faulted against their crimes; but it can also be said by us, the model citizens if we may be so haste as to label ourselves in such conceited manner, that we ourselves are not to be faulted against prosecuting them, and if the former but realizes the limitation of this "justification", then I think there is no real reason to worry ... Food for thought; take it or leave it.
But regarding whether people will go crazy when they think their actions are justified because of the inevitability of them. My answer is that, even if your "secret" is revealed, people will act the same because it is our "inevitable" duty to fight against those that commit crime or things that are not in alignment with reason. Insofar as there is conflicting force, namely ours that seek to maintain the status of justice, whether or not actions are justified is unnecessary in practical terms.
but rather whether even if we take into account the preceding circumstances that seem to lead to only one set of events (and furthermore as the sequence continues), there is uncertainty. Quantum physics, though I am sufficiently unknowledegable in that regard, may reveal some prospects on this light of reasoning. Regardless of all this mental trifling, why not bat it off as Christopher Hitchens did when he said "I have no choice but to have free will?"
Logically, determinism stands triumphant; our mind favors it particularly because it seems airtight; however an interesting thought may be whether or not there is certain amount of uncertainty EMBEDDED in the most fundamental level of occurrences. Not uncertain in a sense that there are many possibilities, (but of course will only be one depending on the preceding circumstances which choose only one possibility thereby making probability 1 or zero to all events if determinism were to be true),
That is the conventional saying of determinism: everything is determined by what is preceded. For example a coin toss - is it truly 50/50 prob. of heads and tails? Surely if it is thrown a sufficient amount, it will be close to 50/50, but individual toss vary according to the way by which we throw, the slight breeze of wind, our willingness to throw high or low depending on how energetic we are depending on how much we ate for to be energized, ad infinitum.
wow another boring video. we don't have a choice really?? when i go out to eat i pick where when and the time i go. when i go to bed, i chose then. biology is based on a theory, (not proven true) that came about 50 years ago and still lies unproven.free will is your choice there is a G-d or there is now G-d?? oh now this is where your free will comes in. if there is no choice then all people would like the same thing and believe in the same thing. facts!
This was one of the best explanations of God's all knowing abilities that I've ever heard. Thanks for the help. God knows us so well that we have become Predictable. Take it as a compliment people. God has see our sinful desires for so long, it is no longer a surprise to Him that we will cling to sin rather than Him. Therefore, the more he watches us, the better He can already predict the outcome. How great it is having a God that knows me so well.
You are very right about this, but I still believe that we have the power to overcome many tendencies that we have by means of our habits and choices. It is very well known that my habits also determine aspects of my health and well-being. It is vital to make good choices to be happier. Don't you think?
I actually LOVE the idea that we are predictable and that we act based on our knowledge, not our "sinful nature" or "convenience". That gives me a lot more confidence that I will actually do the right thing instead of being caught by a mysterious, magical temptation from the devil that will make me do something really stupid that will fuck everything up :D
Actually, the presence of quantum mechanics and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle makes it a bit more complex. Add to that the hard problem of consciousness, and it really isn't clear whether we have what can reasonably be seen as a subjective choice.
MadOldPete 23 hours ago
What you speak of is dead on. I have long since abandoned the belief of conscious will due to the underlying mechanics of the human brain, The brain is biological organ whose output is determined by given inputs and cannot freely do as it pleases.
LiberatedMind1 1 week ago
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LiberatedMind1 1 week ago
Keep making this videos girl you ROCK! Not just cause you hot (thats a bonus) but due to your amazing intellect and capacity for understanding. Dawkins ideas must be spread like wild fire!
LiberatedMind1 1 week ago
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AOAOAO1999 1 week ago
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Satori1800 1 week ago
Of course you aren't free. You are there simply because your parents forgot to use contraceptives on that faithful day and you happened to circle around the certain part of your dad's balls to give you the best timing of all of the other sperms. :D
fingrid 2 weeks ago
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JAYtheMAN2121 2 weeks ago
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eigenSPH 2 weeks ago
Well... evidence has also suggested that your memories and experiences are what make up YOU. They are not pre determined. Sure, weither or not you like chocolate might be, but something as strange as intimacy issues or low self esteem are majorly made up by your expirences.
Look at a spoiled entitled rich kid, they act like that because that is how there parents brought them up... Not because that is how they were pre-destined to act. That is why we see the trend of spoiled kids acting similr
PurelyDanni 4 weeks ago
Maybe true. But still we have the choice to do one thing or the other by thinking it through. . Our thoughts and feeling will influence our decisions just as the circumstances we find our self in. But at the end of the day we could still think through what is best to do and act on it if we choose. Deciding to go to college when you do not feel like it could be a decision you choose because you do not want to fall behind on work That's not genes that is a choice through reason.
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She's only stating the incredibly obvious, but her beauty makes it fascinating to listen to. Also, a startling number of people fail to grasp these manifest truths she is saying. She's like a less abrasive, beautiful, two-eyed version of me. She may well be able to get the point across better than my loudmouth, hard-fightin', hard-fartin' ugly ass. To quote Ricki Lake in the early nineties and every other show in the rest of the nineties, "You go girl!"
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Advice:
Do a flip.
Fudgadelical 1 month ago
all you are doing is stating the obvious
91GamerGod 2 months ago
I just want to say i love your videos..... im glad there is people like you. to bad none live near me.
sleeping330 2 months ago
another flaw...who is arguing there is no causal laws that govern our lives, thats just dumb, of course if my dad has anger issues I am likely to have them, or cancer or whatever..same goes to environment, you will be like your environment but by no means does that 100% say you will be PREDICTABLE in your behavior but PROBABLE. Take statistics young girl and get back with me ;) Its all about probability that certain results occur and that leaves a large room for 'freedom' or choice to change.
israelside 2 months ago
stupid argument b/c while some situations cause and effect have a direct impact other situations it has less or none. Even more so to the issue of being 'free', if I have 10 shirts to wear on a day I can chose anyone at random, or based on an external factor or what ever. Now I chose to randomly chose it, or chose to wash 5 others and give me a batch of 15 to pick from or not. I chose it, yes if a brick falls on my head I go to the ER but not all situations = not free.
israelside 2 months ago
Baby I want you to be "there" with me. I need your tiny nose, beautiful face, and adorable voice. I want to forgive but I dont want to lose the faithful, hope they like you as much as I do. If you know something is wrong then you should stop doing it. For example: Would you murder your little brother if you realized how wicked that act would be?.... Different subject: what's your favorite "candy"?
EsotericTengu 2 months ago
Then just go up to someone and punch them in the face for no reason, you wouldn't!!! You're speculating on phantom scenarios, and not reality. I must invoke you to get punched & then I would have to accept the effect thats all & so would you.. 'Deserve' is a subjective reaction depending on a persons ontological psychology upbringing. Karma not a shallow subject. As you sow, so you shall reap.
ANDROID697 2 months ago
The secret is that we are NOT the body. We are the conscious spiritual entity within the body. The body is part of gross & subtle nature, so it's subjected to 3 (goodness,passion,ignorance)material laws called karma or cause & effect. To access or transcend to our higher consciousness you have to surrender to the supreme absolute truth & then you become free from cause & effect(relative truth). Until you find your true ID, that's beyond space & time, we suffer inside. Due to false ego.
ANDROID697 2 months ago
@ANDROID697 Ah the fractal nature of the universe...
Karma is stupid. according to Karma, if I hit you in the face, you deserved it.
PsykraM 2 months ago
I'm not that predictable cos I'm so indecisive, I can never make up my mind
RelativelyHostile1 2 months ago
damm that cleavage its awesome
burdz1 2 months ago
In the brilliant words of philosoraptor "If particles act in probablistic ways and our brains are composed of particles, how can free will exist?"
AxelVonAwesome 2 months ago
I tend to disagree. DNA sets up boundaries in terms of personality and talents, and we choose within those limits. I am really good at math and science, I play the piano and I like people. so I can choose a career as a math teacher, or a professional pianist, or a myriad of other things. but I probably won't major in a subject, such as history, in college if I'm not good at it
daMonkyD 2 months ago
Why is it so dark in your kitchen?
billcom7 2 months ago
she got a big mouth. :)
meex1H 2 months ago
Is anyone else sick of these amateur videos where the footage keeps cutting? It's like these inbred youtube vlogger morons can't keep a sentence together for more than 5 seconds.
knucklez2 2 months ago
awesome videos
goofygooferspore 3 months ago
@ChuckNorrisKratosLOL
yo don't forget intelligent! :P
gablison 3 months ago
I like the background tune. Whether we ultimately have free will or not doesn't matter to me because we experience something that we interpret as free will either way. Or at least I do, and I assume other people experience it as well because they talk about it.
By analogy, I know the earth isn't flat, but I don't take the curvature of the earth into consideration in anything I do. Pilots and astronauts, sure...
HitfulVids 3 months ago 5
@HitfulVids that's a pretty apt analogy, but while we know the Earth is curved, there is considerably more debate on whether free will exists on a fundamental level. really, doesn't it interest you to ask the big questions and do research on what's actually going on, rather than what we perceive. what you're essentially advocating is voluntary ignorance, and I can't really choose to enjoy that.
MadOldPete 2 months ago
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MaximumGKB8 3 months ago
You Can Change your Choices and Change your Reality and then
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MaximumGKB8 3 months ago
She's smart and pretty as heck, but she's on the wrong track with her atheist views.
guyNbluejeans 4 months ago
"Atoms and particles behave in probabilistic ways, but our mind is made of atoms and particles... How can free will exist?"
Neonman78 4 months ago
r u ok?
MilezzSoundzz 4 months ago
You need to read some Dostoyevsky.
konzwambii 4 months ago
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harikariblunt 4 months ago
you make me feel so smart sometimes :) i came to the conclusion that ever action i made was a result of a combo of experiences and genetics when i was like 10-13.but i still think genetics is more like a weak ''puller'' one way or another,and not that strong a predicter,unless your in a at risk situations
Narutopivotz 4 months ago
This also applies to much of self sacrifice and other good deeds, when done secretly (or when leading to death) there is no biological reason for this behaviour, and indeed it runs contrary to many instincts (remembering that ALL genes in the human genome are PRO life, none of them serve to limit breeding or lifespan unless they are mutations). And obviously conditioning cannot be stronger than biological determinants (we would eat anything if we are starving). So this behaviour shouldn't happen
Llywellyn94 4 months ago
It is also flawed on a more basic level, think of Buhdda. He came from an extremly wealthy family and their would have been almost unimaginable preassure on him to stay within the lifestyle expetcted of him. To the point that no one would have even considered the possiability of him leaving. And there is clearly no biological determinent that would predispose a person to abandon their life style. So why would they?
Llywellyn94 4 months ago
This area of thinking has been smashed in recent years by a series of disappointing findings as the the number (and variety) of genes and their responcabilities. The total genese that where discovered in human DNA were less than one-thenth of what was expected when this kind of theory was on the rise, and less than one sixth of the number needed to account for its part of the decision making process as described by the theory.
Llywellyn94 4 months ago
For someone to be completely free is to be an asshole. Take god for example.
Kigorusan 5 months ago
I know a movie isn't real, but I still enjoy the show.
I know my life has no free will, but I still enjoy the show.
coreygames 5 months ago
Morals can be included into your understanding of cause and effect, through the proper understanding of evolution.
Take, for example, a group of piranha during a 'feeding-frenzy' notice they don't eat eachother?
Species that had members killing other members of that species in too great numbers, or acted in ways that otherwise disadvantaged them died out.
S0lsed 5 months ago
@S0lsed: i dont think you answered her problem with morality. what she is saying is that only free people and people who have all their mental faculties can be held morally responsible and we AREN'T free ( i dont agree with this by the way). also all you did was explain how morality allegedly is part of the human condition. which rises the problem: if what your saying is the case then morality is relative. if morality is relative murder,rape, stealing etc are all not really objectively bad.
elipse135 5 months ago
@S0lsed: i dont think you answered her problem with morality. what she is saying is that only free people and people who have all their mental faculties can be held morally responsible and we AREN'T free ( i dont agree with this by the way). also all you did was explain how morality allegedly is part of the human condition. which rises the problem: if what your saying is the case then morality is relative. if morality is relative murder,rape, stealing etc are all not really objectively bad.
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@S0lsed: i dont think you answered her problem with morality. what she is saying is that only free people and people who have all their mental faculties can be held morally responsible and we AREN'T free ( i dont agree with this by the way). also all you did was explain how morality allegedly is part of the human condition. which rises the problem: if what your saying is the case then morality is relative. if morality is relative murder,rape, stealing etc are all not really objectively bad.
elipse135 5 months ago
why is it that ALL of my family prefers material and mental security and I chose to try a life in the Philippines? i failed miserably, no need to say, but i experienced what it is to live as a poor person in a 'third world country'. my mom bailed me out of course. but the question (my sis has a phd, my bro a comp programmer..) why do i do these things? i could've been 'successful' in life but i choose to do these things.. what's the cause? no idea!
butobuto1 5 months ago
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cocacolaaddict101 5 months ago
Power Rangers Necklace!
koolanator 5 months ago
The best you can do is effect nature and nurture for the next generation. Of course whether or not you do that is not up to you, but your own nature and nurture.
MacabreManifesto 5 months ago
From time to time, we do make choices. Occasionally, situations arise in which we are able to recognize our own habits... and pause for a moment before reaffirming them. Sometimes we don't have the will to change our minds even then, or simply choose not to... and sometimes we do.
On the other hand, sometimes a situation arises that one simply doesn't have a precedent for. There is no habitual response. There may or may not be factors to predispose us to a certain decision, though.
SerpentStare 5 months ago
The conditioning of our genetics and history does have a huge impact on the way we live our lives... We are not free... Completely, anyway.
However, nor are our actions and decisions completely predetermined. Your brother hates bananas... but several years from now, he may decide to try them again and revise this decision on how to react to them. Or not.
Thankfully, not all of our lives are lived purely by habit. Habits are 90% or more of what we do... BUT... (continued)
SerpentStare 5 months ago
bitch suck my duck
patjoswe 5 months ago
your only suming this up as some kind of fate
mallwart360 5 months ago
True! All three of my kids do a similar strange behavior with their toes (the put the big toe on one foot between the big toe and the one next to it on the other foot) that I do. I only do it when I sleep, so they haven't seen me do it (environmental). Before having kids I thought nature vs nurture was 50 - 50, but now I think nature is closer to 90%.
thesjkexperience 6 months ago
When she said 'It's 7am".....you know what I was thinking....
milkyway531 6 months ago
I hate bananas
xXxMasterwafflexXx 6 months ago
Influence is not the same thing as cause...
snackajack117 6 months ago
Look up Nichiren Daishonnin and SGI there is an entire branch of Buddhism that believes Cause and Effect to be the mystic law of the universe :-) pretty cool stuff.
kenichi721 6 months ago
You are right that our environment and our past experiences do influence our decisions today. However, you could choose to let an experience not effect you (by intentionally trying to ignore it or forget it), or you could have a completely unique reaction to an experience in a way which most people wouldn't react. Some people listen to the Beatles and rock out... some people think that is the cue to kill John Lennon (Mr. Chapman). We have less choice than we think... but it is still there.
iMagUdspEllr 6 months ago
When is your naked video out?
nakedmambo 6 months ago
OK! I'll tell that to the judge next time I am in court.
Crazy80563 6 months ago
sorry i wasnt specific .. look for Zeitgeist Moving Forward- about genetics
solrak9113 6 months ago
have you seen Zeitgeist: Moving forward ???
solrak9113 6 months ago
@gogreen18
give into all ur impulsive actions.
soMeRandoM670 6 months ago
Your environment also leads to your genetics because at the very least it leads to your ancestors' actions which led them to procreate at the times they did, resulting in you, and at the most it can be considered to have led to all of the events that led up to you.
Environment doesn't create situations in which you have no choices. It creates situations in which it then makes you choose in particular ways. You do still make the choices, regardless of the fact that you may have been destined to.
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Brilliant AND beautiful! Hope you got an A.Without free will, punishment still makes sense because it has the effect of deterring future crimes by both the perpetrator and by others who see the culprit being punished. What the elimination of free will does is remove the element of moral judgment from punishment. The sole reason for punishing people is to deter the commission of future crimes, not to make moral statements about the culprit's character or to seek vengeance.
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
Like you. But your argument here is contrived. Take a break from your books. Go jump in a lake naked and tell me you are not free.
ideasilly 7 months ago
If this became accepted as fact by the entire human race... well, atheists (for the most part) would behave no differently then before. Those who have external morality will (upon the sudden realisation that all of thier beliefs are invalid) act out. They usually become atheists/agnostics/deists IN TIME. If this happened all at once, for over 80% of the world population, well...
...Armageddon would be a respite...
PalulukanMakto 7 months ago
Iv'e always thought this! This is why I don't like the death penalty and other punishments.
KaylaWisdom 7 months ago
Determinism vs moral responsibility is simple when you boil down to it. We react in predictable patterns because genetics, and experience, write those patterns into our brains. But human beings can change those patterns with time and effort to pretty much whatever we desire. This is pretty much the basis of psychiatry. Free will is that ability to stop and make another choice. Carl Sagan said, "No longer at the mercy of our reptile brains, we can change OURSELVES. Think of the possibilities!"
daiopowen 7 months ago 12
@daiopowen : The problem with this view is that if we assume determinism, then any wish, urge or thought you have will be the result of your genetics, previous experiences and current stimuli. This means you couldn't wish to or do something without this being an unavoidable result of the mentioned factors.
However, the whole argument of free will vs determinism is rather unimportant, as it has no real world impact what ever the solution to it is.
Ts6451 5 months ago
@daiopowen You're right. But the thing is that what we choose to change into is rarely our own true personal decision, but rather just a symptom of the society and environment we happen to live in. True change is possible, not probable, hence the use of the word " possibilities", as opposed to probabilities.
dudesonman4200 2 weeks ago
This is a subject that I swing back and fore on. Ultimately I don't think we have enough of the facts yet to say for sure whether it's one way or the other. We simply don't know enough of what's going on in the quantum world to answer that question. We should not say that this IS the way it is until every stone has been turned. Good video though and well made. Very nice lighting and you're gorgeous lol :-)
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
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I feel sorry for your brother having an older sister to influence him with her wickedness and hatred of the God who gave her life.
warriorspikes51 7 months ago
@warriorspikes51 I feel sorry for you for thinking that your god actually cares about you.
4ingP 7 months ago
@warriorspikes51 I feel sorry for a man too ignorant to not spread anything other than hate and negativity on videos of which a person has worked hard to express their own beliefs, and trying not to do anything other than observe and comment on others. I feel sorry that you believe in something that has never done anything, and not humanity as a whole that has done everything. I feel sorry for you, my friend, i feel sorry for you.
Dreamchitect 7 months ago
Or maybe you're trying to prove or convince yourself you have no free will so you don't have to be responsible or feel guilty for your thoughts or actions.
BossMannBiggz 7 months ago
Everything has a cause, true. But we are still offered choices and are free to choose. Many people choose things that are not in their best interests.
theskeptic2010 7 months ago
You OBVIOUSLY believe in evolution, So...why would your brother, that's your "Ape like" cousin ancestor, hate BANANAS, I would LOVE for you to respond to me, so we could have a one on one debate, but... you'll probably never read this massage.
ironman197268 8 months ago
@ironman197268 Just to clarify, we evolved from a monkey-like creature that also evolved into monkeys. We didn't evolve from today's apes (mainstream ignorance is astounding). Besides, your comment is somewhat ridiculous-"all monkeys love bananas!" That isn't a logic statement, and I sincerely hope that you were joking. So, what wuld you like to debate?
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 First of all, human beings didn't EVOLVE from anything, God Yahweh created us in our original form. So, when did I say we evolved from a monkey? I didn't, I said an ape like cousin ancestor, and even put it in quotes. And Yes, I was totally joking, considering I believe evilution is the 2nd BIGGEST lie known to man. You're going to wish your response to me was a joke, if you want to take on the ironman in a debate on evolution!!
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 Out of curiosity, since I am so ignorant, what is the 1st BIGGEST lie known to man? Religion? Gravity? Ice cream? Since "evilution" (that is so cute!) is only the 2nd.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 The big bang theory would be the number 1 biggest lie in the world. If Humans and monkeys evolved from the same ape like ancestor, why are humans so much more advanced than our monkey cousins, and where is all the billions of hominid skeletons in the so called fossil record?
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 ...Billions. Billions of hominid skeletons. That is the most ridiculous standard of proof I have ever heard. Vestigial structures are pretty good evidence-why do humans have apendixes? 1 in 100,000 people are born without one and they operate completely functionally. I'm not going to argue the Big Bang because I frankly don't know everything and I am comfortable with it. How is the Bible a greater authority than logical, scientific observations? Curious again, since you know all.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 Well, I see it doesn't take much to get you FIRED up! Yes,billions of hominid skeletons. This would be simple, and easily observable evidence. Where is it? The appendix, please!! That's part of your immune system, sure you can live without it, just like you can live without your teeth, hands, feet, stomach, reproductive system and so on. That's got to be the WORST argument for evilution ever!! Now, where did you say those HOMINID skeletons are,where did the space for the BB come from?
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 The Big Bang Theory isn't synonymous with Biological Evolution, so I'm not going to address that as I don't claim to be omnicient (I don't know everything about the expansion of space, basically). The appendix has just as much use as the folded second eyelids in the corner of your eye (the corner close to your nose has this, it is the second, clear pair many animals use underwater for extra protection). I'm sorry, I've run out of space, and I don't stoop to continuing comments.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 Oh, and The Bible, The Bible is logical and, scientifically observable. Just think about "atoms molecules, protons, etc." Now read Hebrews 11:3.
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 Great. You found a quote in the Bible that can be considered scientific (now, not then). Reminds me of the Qu'ran. I'm wondering, do you eat shellfish? Read Leviticus 11:10. I love Leviticus. And, returning to the scientific authority of the Bible, try...hmmm...oh yeah, Genesis! That is so scientifically accurate isn't it? By the way, I'm wondering what your response to vestigial structures is, as you completely avoided the statement, probably because you don't have a retort.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 Some how I missed this one. Leviticus 11:10, I'm assuming you believe that means it's a sin for Christians to eat shellfish? If so, you're doing what the atheists and Bible haters do best, take passages "out of context" Those verses are referring to the children of Israel, what they should and should not eat. Second eyelids huh, That's even Worse than the appendix. Those things are part of the eyes lubricating system, how did evolution know the eye were going to need lubricating?
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 Now I have space again! The appendix is basically a "back up" for the helpful bacteria such as those in the stomach. A disease that kills such bacteria in the stomach would not kill all of them, as there are back ups in the appendix. However, it is no longer needed for the process, because the close contact of society allows for human to unwittingly take each other's stomach bacteria. It was only necessary because of disease, which God supposedly created.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 You just admitted that the appendix has a purpose. Sure you can live without it, but you run the risk of getting those sicknesses easier.
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 #1 A vestigial structure has little to no function, not no function whatsoever. #2 The appendix does not provide immunity to the diseases, it provides back up bacteria for certain other organs. #3 Point #1 applies to plica semilunaris just as much as the appendix. #4 Vestigial structures show clear connections to ancestorial past, whether or not they have a minor purpose. #5 I'm curious, are you a Young Earth Creationist? #6 Religion is the assertion, provide evidence please.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 So, the appendix has a purpose then? Yes, I am a super huge, die hard Young Earth Creationist, check out my page.
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 Yes, I told you exactly what the purpose of the appendix is. It is a purpose that is no longer necessary due to societal contact, that was only ever necessary due to disease, which God must have created in your view (tell me if I'm wrong). If you are a Young Earth Creationist, I'm simply curious as to what your response to fossils are, such as those of dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are a cliched topic in this debate, but prove to me they are either #1 in the Bible or #2 a falsehood.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 All right, enough about the appendix then. Dinosaurs in The Bible, dinosaurs are very much in The Bible. Job 40:15, and chapter 41 has some great descriptions. Dinosaurs are mentioned all throughout The Bible.
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 Job 41:21, with its reference to breathing fire, makes it obvious that the Bible is describing a dragon. Give me another mention in the Bible that is not a description of a dragon, please.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 Did you not get my message, or are you backing out of the argument? If you did not recieve my message, you can look at the comments list in the video.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 That depends on which message you're talking about. The comment layout on this video "Shuffles Around" every time I come back here, and even when I going back and forth through the comment pages. If you're talking about The Bible describing another dinosaur... I already did, Job 40:15
ironman197268 7 months ago
@ironman197268 Yes, that is the message. Job 40:15 is frankly too short to consider, as it could refer to anything large that eats grass. If dinosaurs are "very much in the Bible," then you must be able to provide more references.
Andy32268 7 months ago
@Andy32268 Genesis isn't scientific? The very first chapter and verse is loaded with it, Earth= matter, Beginning= Time, Heaven= Space, Light= Energy. What about the dimensions of the Ark? The Ark had a 6 to 1 ratio which is the same dimensions the ASA use today. How did Moses know the best time to circumcise a male child is when he is 8 days old? Hey, why don't you go have all you so called vestigial body parts removed? You could help speed up the evilutionary process!!
ironman197268 7 months ago
I don't entirely agree with you - what you say is true to some extent, but we as humans have evolved to the point where (if we want to) we can make choices contrary to our biology and genetics, thereby somewhat over-riding the cause and effect thing. The first thing is individual awareness of this. People who are unaware live more by their genetic dispositions. People who are more self-aware and realize they have a choice can over-ride this and step outside it. BTW - you are cute ;-)
theskeptic2010 8 months ago
I think you give cause and effect way too much credit. I think it's much more limited than you describe.
grimmrheraldthefrenc 8 months ago
i dont like the though of that but i suspected something like that is true and it makes sense
wunder whe theyll find a way to use your genetics to map out reactions to eviromental influence
watcherofzideozeszz 8 months ago
@blazevenom100 um....creepy much
SHEAFFEY95 8 months ago
Your eyes are beautiful. I want your eyes.
Oh, and your brother is adorable C:
TheWierdOne089 8 months ago
If everything is under deterministic law, then we have an infinite regress which would create a logical paradox.
ChronicCaptivation 8 months ago
I tend to agree partially with determinism, but I don't think it completely answers how things work. Is there such a thing as true randomness? If so, then free choice may be possible, since not all outcomes will be entirely deterministic . For this we have to look at the quantum realm. Science has not answered the question yet. I suspect personally that it will be discovered that randomness can exist at the quantum level - with some extra dimension providing the causation -the realm of the soul?
pitdroidtech 8 months ago
Your little brother looks like Misha Collins.
TellingItLikeItIsSJM 8 months ago
I thought the secret was going to be a penis
opiumized 8 months ago 2
i like this chick. I guess she is proposing determinism. Fine with me, I agree.
tcprincesa 8 months ago
its not exectly true... it is my decision... its just that "me" is a biological creture that made of gentics and
zanvador 8 months ago
You know, I think I've learned a lot from watching you're videos. Maybe I am not free, but the things I have learned only sense watching you're videos... has helped me with making better decisions and being more confident. I think anyone would prefer to believe they have free will, but I think you can learn to be who you want to be ultimately.. Who can ever know for sure though...
Pastafarian572 8 months ago
Try the first part of “Zeitgeist: Moving Forward” (available on YouTube).
xXvolhvXx 8 months ago
Yes, we all like to think we're in control, but that is just not the case.
KnightBlazer28 8 months ago
There is a very strong argument that says there are no 'Natural Laws of Nature', there is only a description of phenomena that have occurred and projections based on inductive logic. We are not constrained by natural laws; every decision that we make creates a "tiny subset of a universal 'law of nature'". The argument goes on, but no room for it here. I tend to prefer hard science rather than psychology and certainly philosophy. Does anyone even major in philosophy anymore?
Ardalla555 8 months ago
you need to get a life im no genetic individual.
fashanu1000 9 months ago 2
mute and watch sexyness
espnthe0cho 9 months ago
I know what the hell to do. lol Make everyone believe that determinism is true, and the ones who decide to not still be moral..KILL EM OFF! and eventually all the ppl left will be the ones who will keep being good even if they know it is not because of nonphysical will.
Der3k7r 9 months ago
wow ur so smart not lesbian!
DeputyFifey 9 months ago
If you go deeper into the molecules in the DNA, they area made up of atoms which are best described with quantum mechanics. In quantum mechanics, everything is probabilistic. I'm over simplifying it here because I'm trying to get the point across in laymen terms that determinism is not true. Look up Bell's Theorem and the implications of it and try to understand it. Nature is fundamentally probabilistic. Some physicists argue that this is a sort of real "free will".
kmui7 9 months ago
BTW, nice videos... I know they're old but I presume that there's still a non-zero probability that you read this comments... :P
Hard determinism is a little bit outdated, I think, or at least sufficiently far from human reach as to create a nice illusion of free will :)
jterrones86 9 months ago
Hi Laci, My advice for coping with the awful truth you have found: Just enjoy the illusion of free will and if something disappoints you then blame it on determinism as theists blame it on supernatural beings ;) Enjoy your "freedom" and consider that to be able to follow the chain reaction that brought you to this moment one would need to know the position and momentum of every single particle in the universe which is, to the best of my knowledge, impossible in principle. ΔxΔp≥ħ/2 Best wishes, J
jterrones86 9 months ago
so you like banannas huh? interesting.....
QandahaarIsTheBomb 9 months ago
I can't controll that I am writting this. So when I kill my cat tonight i couldn't controll it ether?
Tank94Mage 9 months ago
determinism that is outside the possibility of calculation behaves unlike determinism. So the universe is not deterministic. refer to laplace's demon. If an entity could calculte the result of cause and effect it must take its own influences into account....its a self referential paradox. For this reason it is possible for both cause and effect to be true and determinism to be false.
idlenessss 9 months ago
Science does not believe in free will. We're simply physics anomalies.
This video comes at this very obtusely and not very factually, but hey, not like she had a choice.
Ryakki 9 months ago
I love this video because I've been saying this for years, and it's so rare to find someone who agrees. People seem to hate rejection of the idea that they're free.
CourtesyMessengerIan 9 months ago
thinkers are capable of moving outside of any system since they dont limit themselves... however be warned, after you start to realize the truth.. things can never go back to how they were..
metalmanexetreme 9 months ago
an example... if i wanted to i could walk up to someone on the street and slit their throat, i dont actually need a reason, however since i dont Believe in unmotivated aggression, i dont. We have the option to do anything, however only someone who is beyond all forms of control (law,Ethics, Morals, Religion, Ect.) will act outside of those confinements... so yes, you are partially correct, if you understand the systems in which a person operates in, that person then is predictable, however freet
metalmanexetreme 9 months ago
ofcourse its cause and effect, but you have it topsy turvy, your brother made the choice that he doesnt like bananas, and he sticks with that choice, if he were to eat a banana and then get sick, then he has no choice but to avoid the banana, otherwise that is his choice, and i agree with your opinion on the disease... that is one thing you have no choice over... but everything else is decided, atleast for an actual free thinker who isnt brainwashed by their environment. such as let me give you
metalmanexetreme 9 months ago
There just is not enough information to make a judgement on this yet. It the kind of science that scientists 50 years from now look back on and laugh about. People just hate not knowing so they make up their minds too soon.
iron13man 9 months ago
yeah... shes hot... but shes actually pretty smart... good points in every single video
TheJace2 9 months ago
FREE WILL! FREE WILL! FREE WILL! lol
rbolo29 9 months ago
u look kinda like scarlett johanson just a bit more fat
saintsFlow 10 months ago
@saintsFlow She's not fat. She's stunning.
luvsvolleyball27 10 months ago
@luvsvolleyball27 that i even mentioned her in one sentence with scarlett johanson.....u didn't notice that ?
i'm not saying she's fat, just fater then her but NOT fat
saintsFlow 10 months ago
In a sense, it can be said by the crime-committers that they are not to be faulted against their crimes; but it can also be said by us, the model citizens if we may be so haste as to label ourselves in such conceited manner, that we ourselves are not to be faulted against prosecuting them, and if the former but realizes the limitation of this "justification", then I think there is no real reason to worry ... Food for thought; take it or leave it.
dkwonism 10 months ago
But regarding whether people will go crazy when they think their actions are justified because of the inevitability of them. My answer is that, even if your "secret" is revealed, people will act the same because it is our "inevitable" duty to fight against those that commit crime or things that are not in alignment with reason. Insofar as there is conflicting force, namely ours that seek to maintain the status of justice, whether or not actions are justified is unnecessary in practical terms.
dkwonism 10 months ago
but rather whether even if we take into account the preceding circumstances that seem to lead to only one set of events (and furthermore as the sequence continues), there is uncertainty. Quantum physics, though I am sufficiently unknowledegable in that regard, may reveal some prospects on this light of reasoning. Regardless of all this mental trifling, why not bat it off as Christopher Hitchens did when he said "I have no choice but to have free will?"
dkwonism 10 months ago
Logically, determinism stands triumphant; our mind favors it particularly because it seems airtight; however an interesting thought may be whether or not there is certain amount of uncertainty EMBEDDED in the most fundamental level of occurrences. Not uncertain in a sense that there are many possibilities, (but of course will only be one depending on the preceding circumstances which choose only one possibility thereby making probability 1 or zero to all events if determinism were to be true),
dkwonism 10 months ago
That is the conventional saying of determinism: everything is determined by what is preceded. For example a coin toss - is it truly 50/50 prob. of heads and tails? Surely if it is thrown a sufficient amount, it will be close to 50/50, but individual toss vary according to the way by which we throw, the slight breeze of wind, our willingness to throw high or low depending on how energetic we are depending on how much we ate for to be energized, ad infinitum.
dkwonism 10 months ago
Ah, Laci but im still in doubt as to weither or not i believe in causation. So your video is basically bare ascertion and nothing else.
Like pretty much the rest of your illogical and uneducated videos.
UncannyRicardo 10 months ago
Lovely Laci,
I don't want you to go to hell. Please make a change to Christianity.
MrTrack412 10 months ago
@MrTrack412 -facepalm- ... You're a dumbass.
Intel1502 10 months ago
@MrTrack412 could you not just respect her decision in atheism and live your life?
turtledrummer96 10 months ago
Laci, you babe.
I listened to you for 5 minutes and never heard your secret.
I am afraid to listen to you because if I do, I might go to hell.
MrTrack412 10 months ago
You have a little brother? Lacy, you have to teach his the gospel.
MrTrack412 10 months ago
And here a was thinking the mesohippus went extinct in the Oligocene only to find one alive and well on youtube. Intriguing!
joiles01 10 months ago
wow another boring video. we don't have a choice really?? when i go out to eat i pick where when and the time i go. when i go to bed, i chose then. biology is based on a theory, (not proven true) that came about 50 years ago and still lies unproven.free will is your choice there is a G-d or there is now G-d?? oh now this is where your free will comes in. if there is no choice then all people would like the same thing and believe in the same thing. facts!
hero4737 10 months ago
marry me?
sammmu100 10 months ago
This was one of the best explanations of God's all knowing abilities that I've ever heard. Thanks for the help. God knows us so well that we have become Predictable. Take it as a compliment people. God has see our sinful desires for so long, it is no longer a surprise to Him that we will cling to sin rather than Him. Therefore, the more he watches us, the better He can already predict the outcome. How great it is having a God that knows me so well.
Eaglepreacher7 10 months ago
Interesting
MrLeftfootrightfoot 10 months ago
You are very right about this, but I still believe that we have the power to overcome many tendencies that we have by means of our habits and choices. It is very well known that my habits also determine aspects of my health and well-being. It is vital to make good choices to be happier. Don't you think?
Danicicco 10 months ago
Ur so smart
seexxiigirl96 10 months ago
@gogreen18: I have a thought to share.
I actually LOVE the idea that we are predictable and that we act based on our knowledge, not our "sinful nature" or "convenience". That gives me a lot more confidence that I will actually do the right thing instead of being caught by a mysterious, magical temptation from the devil that will make me do something really stupid that will fuck everything up :D
At least that is what I think.
Did you have any other thoughts about this?
gugamilare 10 months ago
your eyes are just screaming evil.... ughhh i hope im not alone
MeTHoDPsYcH01 10 months ago
such a big mouse LOL
5hiftee 10 months ago
That happened with me and carrots! I vomited after eating them when I was four and now I can't stand them.
Teresa64squared 10 months ago
I think your REAL secret is that you're a naive, self-important, sanctimonious blowhard. Hopefully you'll grow out of that in your 20's.
gregarious24 11 months ago 2
I think the lyrics from "Free WIll" by Rush explains it all:
"You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice.
If you choose not to