(Part3)Victor’s Nation needed whatever Japanese cruel acts during the war. In other words, Victor’s Nation acted that many Japanese were hanged for the purpose of protecting its own interests. The United States was cheated by Chinese lies. People should know China fabricated 143 of Nanking pictures, and China paid money to foreigners to write Japanese a false Nanking story in book.
(Part2)However, China could not show any conclusive evidence about the Japan’s crimes of human right such as the Nanking Massacre. Victor's Nations was hesitates during the court was opening because they had already established a new law which is called crime against humanity before Japan was defeated. The new law might have been punished the U.S which dropped two atomic bombs to Japan, so many Japanese civilians were killed.
(Part1) America was cheated by China. China spread a rumor such as the Nanking Massacre to the U.S. Madam Chiang Kaishek appealed a false story about the Nanking with fabricated pictures in 1942. Definitely the U.S believed that Japan committed crimes of human rights in China. After the U.S dropped two of atomic bombs to Japan, and the war was finished by dropping them, and Tokyo Trial started.
Нанкине резня была ложной истории. Почему китайское правительство обновил минимум 143 фотографий в Нанкине резня музей? Почему китайское правительство не может доказать убийство 340000 когда IMTFE была открыта? Где 300000 трупов? Почему многие китайцы вернулись в Нанкин после Япония оккупировала город?
How could the Japanese kill 300,000 citizens in a city that held only 200,000 people?
The Chinese really want to spread Japanese bad rumors to the world. In youtube, they have written lot of groundless rumors about Japan. The rumors don’t have any conclusive evidence. The cause of this fact is the anti-Japanese policy of the Chinese government.
China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
Chinese government created the fake story of Nanking Massacre. Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so called the Nanking Massacre? Definetely they wanted to make japanese atrocity for get help from the U.S.
@undertakerRach the reason US entered the war is because the bombing of pearl harbor. i dont care if you are denying the holocaust and the genocides that both hitler and japanese soldiers committed, but keep it to ur self
Dude, Fuck You, you no better than the Holocaust deniers thAT are trying to nullify the truthn of the holocaust!! The Japanes committed the most horrible atrocities on the Chinese KoreN AND fILIPINO PEOPLE ane they ashous acknowledge this or DIER DIE DIE DIE economically and spiritually like the people they explioted ane tortured !! Thedrte ,must b e a Payback lObng live the memory of the beautigul IRIS CHANNG The Japanese e must acknowledge their SINS!!!!!!!!
Ways That Are Dark ～The truth about China Ralph Townsend
If a jury of the most experienced Americans or Englishmen in China today were asked to name the most prominent characteristic in the Chinese mentality as opposed to our own, I think most if not all of them would unhesitatingly answer, “lying."
In the West we scarcely know anything about lying. We are rank amateurs.
(Part7)In fact so many things were misunderstood on rapes as well.
The first instance of misunderstandings was for the committee to take recruitment for prostitutes for rapes.The second instance was the confusion of taking Chinese soldiers for Japanese soldiers.The third instance was that Chinese, who lay hidden in the Safety Zone, camouflaged themselves to create the impression that looting and rapes had been committed by Japanese soldiers,
China has killed 1,200,000 Tibetans since 1955. The very Communist China declared that the problem of Tibet is a problem relating to domestic affairs and refused the interference of the foreign nations. On the other hand, the CCP is loudly denouncing the 'Nanking Massacre' which had been insisted on its happening more than sixty years ago, but not even clearly defined. This is ridiculous!
NEVER FORGET: Manila Massacre, Alexandra Hospital massacre, Sook Ching Massacre, Kalagong massacre, Laha massacre, Banka Island massacre, Parit Sulong massacre, Palawan massacre, Nan King Massacre, Three Alls Policy, Changi Prison, Hellships, Bataan Death March, Death Railway, Mass killings, Human experimentation and biological warfare, Use of chemical weapons, Preventable famine, Torture of POWs, Cannibalism, Forced labor, Comfort women, Looting STILL NO APOLOGY
(Part4)Definitely, the Chinese government is afraid of occur a democratization movement such as the Tiananmen massacre in 1989. Thats why the government uses anti-Japanese education to kids. As a result, Chinese people firmly refuse the true facts. In other words, Chinese people are mind controlled by Chinese government. At least 147 pictures about so-called Nanking massacre are distorted by the Chinese government.
(Part3)Also, this very photo has been taken by Correspondent KUMASAKI （Japanese）in the province of Paoshan in the vicinity of Shanghai, on October 14, 1937.
In short, a scene of peaceful farming village has been secretly switched to the one that is taking villagers to somewhere prior to rape en masse. It is indeed a wicked act of secretly switching the picture. You know, this is the usual measures of China Government. Government miss led Chinese people, Chinese people are not wrong.
(part2)A set of four of pictures have appeared in the journal with the explanation, titled as "Utopia amidst the Gun-power: The 'Rising Sun' Village South of the Yangtze." The picture captioned with "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers." In those days in china, the lootings are often committed by the deserted Chinese soldiers. Therefore, the farmers have needed the protection of Japanese troops to engage in farming safely.
(Part1)One of the pictures have displayed at the 'Memorial Hall of Victims in Nanking Massacre'. Chinese gave a name to the photo "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of ladies were raped and forced into military prostitution. However, this photo has appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on November 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle.
3 days ago.Read this article in the TELEGRAPH UK "Human Bones could reveal truth of Japan's Unit731 experiments" in which the Japanese Imperial Army's medical research team tortured 10,000 people per year which has been considered some of the worst war crimes. A former nurse has revealed a mass grave in the Shinjuku district, Tokyo & the remains exhumed are believed to be of non-Japanese Asians.Unit 731 was active in China where it conducted biological & bacteriological tests on civilians & pow
(Part4)This Timperley fact based on the book which is called 曽虚白自伝(Page 201), which means曽虚白 Diary.曽虚白 was also one of the members of the Propaganda section. In fact, at least 143 of pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum were distorted by the Chinese government. Tell the truth, Japanese could kill 300,000 people and raped 80,000 women? They stayed in the Nanking only 6 weeks.
(Part3)One of the foundation upon which the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. But Timperley was, in fact, an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information. The section was propaganda section in China during the War. Timperley was paid by the propaganda section for editing the book.
(Part2)Thats why Chinese people called CPC, Mao soldiers, 共匪 which means communists pirates because they raped many women, plunder many towns, and murdered. Moreover, Chinese victims couldnt receive any medical treatment for they had no money. Chiang Kai-shek said, You can get medical treatment for free in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you. Thats why; poor Chinese claimed we were hurt by Japanese.
(Part1)During the Shino-Japanese war, Chinese military killed Chinese people as if they were a worm. One of the Chinese men whose name was梁啓超 called Chinese people戮民, which means never mind people die for our victory. The Chinese militarys characteristics were not only KMT but also CPC. CPC acted more brutally than KMT.
(Part3)Since the People's Republic of China was established in 1949, the frequency of its use of military forces reaches the double digits. On average, China has used military power every several years. In all cases, except for its support of North Vietnam war against South Vietnam, China has used force preemptively. China attacked the opponent first after careful preparation, whereas the opponent suffered from a surprise attack. Free Tibet ! Free Uigure!
(Part2)Today, the China is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party and the Japan is democracy. While history should not be forgotten, we must also judge a country by its current actions. A recent survey of world public opinion from 2005 to 2007 found that Japan is the country most widely viewed as having a positive influence, which is helped by the fact that Japan has never used military power as a means for settling international conflicts after 1945.
(Part1)Conflict Prevention and Confidence Building Measures between Japan and China by Vice Admiral (Ret.) Fumio Ota, Ph.D. Published on January 5th, 2009 ARTICLES
Chinese leaders always say to Japanese leaders that Japan should look at history as a mirror. It means that Japan should not forget her brutal actions against China during the Sino-Japanese conflict in the late 1930s and the beginning of the 1940s. However, since this period Japan and China have changed considerably.
WHY IS JAPAN NOT TEACHING THEIR PART IN WW2 IN THEIR SCHOOLS? Because they have the blood of millions in their hands.Because their ancestors were a bunch of cowardly murderers who slaughtered innocent women & children.What kind of honourable race is that? Their Emperor was a mass murderer who never got the punishment he deserved & it was the Japanese in Hiroshima & Nagasaki who paid for his sins.
They are doing that because they don't want their youth to know their atrocities, because it would hurt their "pride" thus only a few youths today are even aware of what Japan did back then in World War 2.
IMO, they are just trying to escape their responsibility by just forgetting and brainwashing their youth
QUILTY AS SIN! Thousands of dead men,women & children & Oddball (an appropriate name) is concerned about 147 supposedly fake photos? Every country that Japan invaded suffered the same barbaric pattern of torture under the Jap army,not just Nanking.Rape, beheadings,disembowelling of children & babies as sport, the murder of entire families, entire villages. Like me to go on, Oddball?
(Part1)To begin with, the Safety Zone was the only place where women stayed in the city of Nanking. And in order to protect foreign rights and interests which were concentrated in the Safety Zone and avoid unnecessary conflicts with members of the Safety Zone Committee, the headquarters of the Japanese Army prohibited their soldiers' entry to the Safety Zone and posted guards at every important points,
(Part2)judging from the danger of being attacked by many hidden Chinese soldiers as well. For these reasons, Japanese soldiers were unable to enter the Safety Zone at will, or no one dared to enter there at the risk of being attacked. Actually, the Japanese soldiers were very busy carrying out their duties such as guarding the gates and walls, taking up their position at antiaircraft observation posts and other various duties.
(Part3)Therefore, there were no Japanese soldiers who could have time to go out of their quarters.Those who only got admittance to the Safety Zone were all in all about 1,600 soldiers of the 7th Regiment, the 9th Division, that were in charge of the garrison for the Safety Zone. In this situation a large-scale rape could not have happened. It must be further pointed out that there existed a significant reason why soldiers were restrained from committing rapes,
(Part4) because if crimes had been disclosed, more than seven years' penal servitude would have been inevitable by the army penal code. They were fully aware of the severe penalties. Among the Japanese Army, the optimistic expectation prevailed that they could be able to return home soon after winning battles in Nanking. They also knew that due to Japan's economic prosperity nice jobs would be open to them. There were no motives to run the risk of illegal actions.
(Part5)how many cases of rape were (including attempted) reported in the documents by the Safety Zone Committee? The total number was 361. And among them, there were only 61 cases, which definitely clarified who witnessed the cases, who heard and reported. Among these cases, only seven cases were clarified to be crimes committed by Japanese soldiers and notified the Japanese Army of the crime in order to disclose the fact and to capture the suspects.
(Part8) to practice one of a series of Chinese strategies for the purpose of throwing Japanese soldiers into confusion. There were three different groupings as to the 'cases of rape' some Chinese asserted, and even 361 cases recorded in the documents of the Safety Zone Committee couldn't necessarily be concluded as Japanese crimes at all events.
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Definitely, the Chinese government is afraid of occur a democratization movement such as the Tiananmen massacre in 1989. Thats why the government uses anti-Japanese education to kids. As a result, Chinese people firmly refuse the true facts. In other words, Chinese people are mind controlled by Chinese government. At least 147 pictures about so-called Nanking massacre are distorted by the Chinese government.
(Part2)Although Magee, member of the Safety Zone Committee, testified in the IMTFE by saying 'the Japanese soldiers took everything away from the Chinese residents', he confessed in the cross-examination, what he himself witnessed was nothing but one case that 'a Japanese soldier deprived of some electric ice boxes.
(Part1)Do you know how much the Safety Zone Committee was aware of looting in the Nanking? According to documents of Magee, member of the Safety Zone Committee, so far referred to in this paper, those demonstrated the total number of looting by Japanese soldiers was 179 including those in rumor.
You cant believe your country's atrocities,Oddballrach? Or dont want to.Making excuses for yr Emperors, your armies, your people's evil deeds only perpetuates their crimes.You are as guilty as them. There are none so blind as they who will not see.
"One of the photos shows Jap soldiers giving gifts to chinese citizens" woop woop Im sure the babies who were used for bayonet practices love what they got!
What an insult to them this blogger this.Respect the dead.Many were killed by the Japanese during their occupancy in Asia.Cruelly & without remorse. Thats exactly what Oddballrach is about, distorting history because he has no remorse about his countrys WAR CRIMES against humanity!
The Jap soldiers in WW2 plundered,RAPED men,women.& children not only in China but in many other parts of SE Asia & that is a FACT. My parents were prisoners & victims to Jap brutality when they systematically massacred the Chinese in Singapore. So try yr pathetic excuses about the Jap being such honourable victors.They were the most BARBARIC army from the Emperor down,& you can try covering up all you want but TRUTH PREVAILS. The world knows this.Pity the criminals were never brought to justice
(Part6)Out of these records, how could Bates have calculated the number 8,000 on rapes?Furthermore, as reported in the article of the Chicago Daily News dated on February 9, 1938, the Japanese Army investigated criminals about seven cases and severely punished them. The punishment was so severe that some complaints were expressed among the soldiers.By whom were 361 cases of rape committed that the Safety Zone Committee recorded?
(Part9)One of the pictures shows that Chinese Christians having worship service in Nanking with Reverend John Maggie, American pastor, after peace returned to the city. Photo from the Asahi Shinbun newspaper published on December 21, 1937, eight days after the Japanese occupation, in the article entitled "Nanking Smiles." The article stated, "Hearing their hymns, we noticed, Oh, today's Sunday."
(Part8)One of the pictures shows that Chinese boy with big smile and Second Lieutenant Takashi Akaboshi with also smile, who led a fight along the Yangzi River. This photo was taken near the walls of Nanking just after the Japanese occupation. (Courtesy of Takashis wife).
(Part7) One of the pictures shows "The Chinese citizens did not fear the Japanese and willingly cooperated with me for photo-taking," testified the press photographer Shinju Sato. The photo was taken in Nanking Safety Zone on December 15, 1937, two days after the occupation of Nanking.
(Part6) One of the pictures shows that Japanese soldiers nursing Chinese wounded soldiers. This photo was taken in Nanking on December 20, 1937, seven days after the occupation, by the correspondent Mr. Hayashi; placed in the Japanese pictorial magazine, Asahi-ban Shina-jihen Gaho, and published on January 27, 1938.
(Part5)One of the pictures shows that Chinese people were sick or were wounded in a hospital in Nanking, and Japanese medics nursing them. This photo was from the North China Daily News on December 18, 1937, five days after the occupation of Nanking.
(Part4) Japanese newspaper Asahi Shinbun, published on Dec. 18, 1937, five days after the occupation, reported scenes of the city in the article entitled, "Nanking in Restoring Peace": the pictures shows that Japanese soldiers buying from a Chinese, Chinese farmers who returned to Nanking cultivating their fields, Chinese citizens returning to Nanking, and Chinese adults and children smiling in front of barbershop on Street.
(Part3)One of the pictures shows that Japanese soldiers were having a pleasant chat with Chinese citizens who are wearing armbands of the flag of Japan in Nanking. This photo was taken on 20, Dec. 1937, seven days after the occupation, and published in the pictorial book, Shina-jihen Shasin Zensyu, in 1938
(Part2) One of the pictures shows that Japanese soldiers gave gifts to Chinese citizens in Nanking. Photo from the British newspaper North China Daily News, published in China in English on December 24, 1937, eleven days after the Japanese occupation of Nanking.
(Part1)One of the pictures shows that many Nanking citizens, who had abhorred bad deeds done with the Chinese military in the city, welcomed the Japanese military after the Nanking battle. Japanese soldiers and the Nanking citizens in the picture wearing armbands of the flag of Japan and giving cheers, on the day of the Japanese militarys ceremonial entry into Nanking ("Sino-Japanese War Photograph News #15," the Mainichi Shinbun newspaper, published on Jan. 11, 1938)
This hatred against today's Japanese for what a small minority of their ancestors did over 70 years ago is immature and irrational. Japanese are not the only mass murderers in East Asia. I'm sure there are descendants of Qin Shi Huang Di, Xiang Yu and perhaps even Kublai Khan in China today. Ancient Chinese cities and villages were decimated over and over again by civil wars - by Chinese warriors, not Japanese. It makes no sense to hate anyone other than perhaps extreme nationalists of Japan.
Oh, please, no one is "enslaving" the Japanese. They did that to themselves when they bought into the plans of Tojo & Co. and committed well-documented atrocities in mainland Asia. It's denial-mongers like you who are equally responsible for keeping the hate alive as are the Chinese and Korean nationalists.
Still, despite the actions of their ancestors, the people of Korea and China have never been compensated for these acts against humanity and there are people who are allowed to theorize if the Nanjing massacre ever happened. It is just as insulting as denying the holocaust which is no considered illegal in many countries.
the number of jap died from that 2 nuclear bomb is no where close to the number of people they killed in China, they should get another 2 nuks than we call it a even.
No u are wrong, very very wrong. That's is what we called injustice man. 2 more nukes? You are so damn stupid. Japanese need 17 million more nukes to get even with all the crimes that they have done, one nuke per each chinese civilian killed :) Yeah, fuck u japanese assholes.
Dont even know how to use English, now try to use Chinese. Thief is a thief. Does not matter how your pretent. Take other people's land, and will say oh Damn soviet did not follow the rule. What rule, whose rule? Fuck Japs. From Pu li with love: "Fuck Japs, Fuck Jap 偽(通倭)王. Sons of incest actions. Get out of our land"
Yeah, FYI. When you retreat from China in 1945, you left more than 3 million JAP woman and children. Why JAP man pig ran faster than their woman? You useless pussy.
i dont what should i say... actually my english is not much well, but at least i knew that Japanese has done same thing on my country... massacre... not only on Nanking, but everywhere where has been reached by Japanese army.... 对不起，英文烂了些。无论这段历史是否符合事实，但无可否认的是，这场战争是日本发起的不是吗？
As for propaganda, everything is not composed of the lie. It is a purpose the exaggerated dramatization based on the fact and the ally of an inside and outside public opinion together with the lie.
KMT has many Japanese advisors before WW2. And Chiang studied in Jap, can you call him an Jap allian? He refused Japanese proposal in dividing China after Shanghai battle, and fought 8 years.
The true allian with Nazi_Germany was Japan, the core Axis-Power. Nazi stopped selling weapon and advisor to KMT after signing Axis with Jap.
Dont know how you guys study history. Go check wikipedia en. They were written by non-chinese.
It is difficult in the emergency to look for the testimony to "Third party who doesn't have the interest that can be trusted" at the WW2 this time. For instance, the military assistance advisory group is sent to a Chinese national party at the same time while connecting Japan with the alliance even if it is the German, and the Nanjing propaganda is designed.
No, it is not yuyoshia. I am no part of PRC government, and might not agree with them on many things. But on Nanking Massacre, I firmly believe that you are very wrong. Nanking Massacre happened, its Japanese right-winger try to whitewash its crimes during WWII. Can you explain why so many 3rd party witnesses testify against Japanese Army? John Rabe, Wilson and many others, none of them have anything to do with PRC government.
This is absolute not true. Farukenhauzen wrote a report based on Nanking Massacre film Rabe smuggled out of China. Rabe was persecuted by Nazi for telling people abou Nanking Massacre. Nazi took him to concentration camp till he stopped talking about Nanking Massacre. He kept film and diary which published after his death. These are all from 3rd party source.
It is used as "Acquittal card" for "Nanjing" to deceive the crime and the invasion by Chinese as a problem of the reality. It is insisted, the most belligerent race in the present world be "Victim" of "Holocaust". It looks like well.
Yuyoshia, you first drew a box, put yourself in it, then look at the world through the little shaped window you dig on the wall. How could one ever be objective if you come to conclusion before weighting on arguements, or makes judgement before seeing evidences. These are very dangerous things to do. If all japanese are like you, i dont think Chinese ever need to worry about competition from Japan. What happened to Japan. LOL.
あと、中国共産党、朝鮮労働党、大韓民国の教科書、毎日テレビで流れる「抗日ドラマ」も、証拠にならないよ～。Oh, Chinese Communist Party, Korean Workers' Party, a Korean textbook, "the anti-Japanese movement drama" flowing on TV every day do not become evidence.
利害関係者の証言は証拠にならない。The testimony with the interest doesn't become evidence. 日本人やイギリス人は嘘を嫌う。プロパガンダはすべてが嘘ではない。少しの事実を含める。In "Propaganda", all are not lies. A few facts are included. （＾＾）
Killing - witness by Robert O. Wilson: "The slaughter of civilians is appalling. I could go on for pages telling of cases of rape and brutality almost beyond belief. Two bayoneted corpses are the only survivors of seven street cleaners who were sitting in their headquarters when Japanese soldiers came in and killed without warning or reason.
Rape - witness by Reverend James M. McCallum: "Never I have heard or read such brutality by Japanese Army. Rape! Rape! Rape! We estimate at least 1,000 cases a night, and many by day. In case of resistance or anything that seems like disapproval, there is a bayonet stab or a bullet... People are hysterical... Women are being carried off every morning, afternoon and evening. The whole Japanese army seems to be free to go and come as it pleases, and to do whatever it pleases."
No chinese in this forum are a part of propaganda. More than 300,000 of our forefathers were killed brutually, it would be unhuman if Chinese do not remember it. This is an extremely painful part of history for all Chinese; it could have been healed; but Japanese right-wingers' continue denial peeled off the scars repeatly. NO ONE is anti-Japan here. But we dispise those who commited crime but dared to deny the crime.
It is funny that Japanese call this an propaganda. The producer is critized by many chinese for being too kind to Japanese soldiers, filmed them too humanly. Mkst2009 call this a propaganda. He did not even watch this film. How can you critize it if you did not even watch the film. That is purely being subjective and pregidous. That is true propaganda.
Zhang Lianhong, professor of Nanjing Massacre Research Center in Nanjing Normal University, published an article in 2003, in which he reconfirmed that the population of Nanjing urban area was between 367,000 and 467,000, and the overall Nanjing population was between 535,000 and 635,000. In 1927, Nanjing only included the urban area. In March 1935, 21 townships formerly under the jurisdiction of Jiangning County were merged into Nanjing.
Original Nanjing citizens 300,000 -400,000; refugees from Shanghai 100,000+; Over 116,919 Chinese soldiers participated in defending Nanjing. 47,382 reported lost, of whom~10,000 died in war, thus at least 37,000 Chinese soldiers stayed in Nanjing City after the Japanese army occupied it. A Japanese military spy report revealed that more than 530,000 citizens lived in Nanjing in late October of 1937.
Source: Research by Wang Sining and Daragh Moller, December 28, 2003
Iysum, I don't know why you still talk to that Ass-kissing lier mskt2009. He is full of shit and only talk in circles. If you bring him in front of a pile of gold, he would say it is shit. You should know, he is a pile shit himself. In his eyes, gold is shit and shit is till shit. That is Japanese, they are shit.
Well answer the question. The whole world is listening to you. Why cannot you notice that you are already refuted mkst2009? Please face the fact yourself. You are lying, and talking in circles.
I answered already. No complains. Yet you did not answer why they are so many foreigners pointed fingurs to you? Saying that Japanese committed all these artrocities? Did you all hate Japanese?
For example, John Rabe repored Japanese embassy there was few destruction by attack and thanks to Japanese army, Nanking could keep peace, but he reported 50,000 ～ 60,000 people were killed toward Hitler. He sold many munitions product to KMT, so he didn't want Gemany to make alliance with Japan and lost his business.
Lie. Where is your reference. Here is on 13 December 1937, John Rabe wrote:
"It is not until we tour the city that we learn the extent of destruction. We come across corpses every 100 to 200 yards. The bodies of civilians that I examined had bullet holes in their backs. These people had presumably fleeing and were shot from behind. The Japanese march through the city in groups of ten to twenty soldiers and loot almost every shop on Chung Shang and Taiping Road."
Mkst2009 does not know how he could answer this question. He is thinking: "I know that Japan did all these killings. But I cannot admit. Why were all these stupid foreigners so honest? Why did they tell the truth? What should I do? Let me talk in circles and fool around."
My advise to jap on this page: 1) Accuracy is the soul of history. How could you claim that you get history right, if you could not even get the names right; 2) Please stop reading and reference on the history written by your own historians. Read books and reference from other countries, particularly 3rd parties'. They are more objective.
Population in Nanking 1937/11/23 500,000(Nanking city government) 1937/11/27 300,000-400,000(U.S. embassy) 1937/12/13 200,000(John Rabe's diary , International committee , 劉啓雄少将) 150,000(Magazine LIFE) 1938/1/14 250,000( International committee) ↑3rd parties'data says pupulation in Nanking increased during Japan's occupation＾＾
Original Nanjing citizens 300,000 -400,000; refugees from Shanghai 100,000+; 116,919 Chinese soldiers participated in defending Nanjing. 47,382 reported lost, of whom <10,000 died during the war. Therefore, ~ 37,000 Chinese soldiers stayed in Nanjing City after the Japanese occupation. A Japanese military spy report revealed that over 530,000 chinese lived in Nanjing in Oct 1937.
After Nanking Massacre, Chinese population dropped to 200,000, most in International zone.
mkst2009: "3rd parties'data says pupulation in Nanking increased during Japan's occupation＾＾"
>> More than Chinese population dropped from over 500,000 to 200,000. Which 3rd party data? Mind provide reference? Did they take account of Japanese soldiers and later Japanese immigrants?
Firstly, please provide reference, you have been putting too many bull shits here. Second, population of Nanjing urban area was between 367,000 and 467,000 in 1937, and the overall Nanjing population was between 535,000 and 635,000. In 1927, Nanjing only included the urban area. In March 1935, 21 townships under Jiangning County were merged into Nanjing.
There were 200,000 in the international zone under Nanking International committee.
Go get the sources right, before you put anything on website. Get names right, use 3rd party source. Japanese sources are most subjective, mostly tailored by right-wingers. This is an example. Why do they not publish the entire letter? Go find the version with full letters.
Japanese national diet member Matsubara sent a public question about population and other doubtful data to China, but Wen Jiabao and also Hu Jintao didn't answer these questions.
And who is the Matsubara? Is he the Emperor or Prime Minister of Japan? Why do you think he could request an immediate answer from or engage a debate with Chinese president/prime minister? China and Japan are two different country, there would be proper diplomatic channels to handle this. Did Japanese government take him seriously and considered him truthful? This is a stupidly arrogant statement.
Sure. Just like me now calling to the Japan prime minster: "Hey come to answer my question: why did Japan invaded China. Why does this stupid mkst2009 still allowed in youtube"? Now I am waiting for one day, the Japanese prime minister has not answer my quesiton yet. Tell me why me, a Hong Kong Diet's member cannot ask public question to Japanese government?
> the overall Nanjing population was between 535,000 and 635,000
Crazy Japanese left wings always say so. But Most civilians were in safety zone before Japanese army entered Nanking except for a few foreign journalists and robbers. According to the international committee official report T-6 1937/12/17, "We made most Nanking civilians flee to safety zone"
Crazy right-winger always makes up things to justify the massacre as well. Look at the website you provided, first they are abridged version, then they mentioned that there are 200,000 refugees in the safety (that is consistant), third they mentioned that these 200,000 were in hunger(japanese army have robbed food from them).
Where are the remaining 300,00 - 400,000 civlians and POW outside of safety zone. There burial documents by Nanking international committee.
Accrding to the Rabe's report to Hitler in Dec 13 1937, "There is no people in Nanking out of safety zone except for we international committee members, a few American journalists, and a few Europeans left. China insists many Chinese still hid, but we couldn't confirm it".
No Chinese would dared to get out of the safety, zone. They only wanted to get in if they were luck enough not being killed by Japanese armies. Many of the 300,000 were killed before they reached safety zone. Moreover, People wont go out did not mean that the Japanese soldiers wont get in. International comittees complained many times to Japanese general that Jap soldiers broke in the safty zone, killed and raped Chinese civilians.
So called T-6 documents from international committee were actually the 61 letters sent by Nanking International Committee to the Japanese Army between Dec 13, 1937 to Feb 9, 1938. If your sources can let see read the whole letters, you would see these letters reporting various Japanese artrocities in and out of safety zone during the period. Go get your history right first.
According to these 61 reports, they reported murder: 41, mayhem: 44, rape: 361, taking: 390, plunder and others: 170 for 2 months. However, all of these reports were hearsay, nobody of this committee witnessed them actually. John G.Magee, George Ashmore Fitch, Miner Searle Bates and Robert O.Wilson. They testified they did not witness any muder and heard from some one. IMTFE proved nobody witnessed murders actually and they wrote reports on the basis of Hearsay.
You lie. These are the crimes they witnessed in safety zone, not include the ones outside of safety zone. Safety zone was protected by international law; and supposedly Japanese general protected the its safety (why was it called safety zone??) Even so, the Japanese soldiers dared to entered and committed crimes. How much more crime they admitted outside of the safety zone in Nanking. Go see their testify in other documents.
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(Part3)Victor’s Nation needed whatever Japanese cruel acts during the war. In other words, Victor’s Nation acted that many Japanese were hanged for the purpose of protecting its own interests. The United States was cheated by Chinese lies. People should know China fabricated 143 of Nanking pictures, and China paid money to foreigners to write Japanese a false Nanking story in book.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
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(Part2)However, China could not show any conclusive evidence about the Japan’s crimes of human right such as the Nanking Massacre. Victor's Nations was hesitates during the court was opening because they had already established a new law which is called crime against humanity before Japan was defeated. The new law might have been punished the U.S which dropped two atomic bombs to Japan, so many Japanese civilians were killed.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
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(Part1) America was cheated by China. China spread a rumor such as the Nanking Massacre to the U.S. Madam Chiang Kaishek appealed a false story about the Nanking with fabricated pictures in 1942. Definitely the U.S believed that Japan committed crimes of human rights in China. After the U.S dropped two of atomic bombs to Japan, and the war was finished by dropping them, and Tokyo Trial started.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
Нанкине резня была ложной истории. Почему китайское правительство обновил минимум 143 фотографий в Нанкине резня музей? Почему китайское правительство не может доказать убийство 340000 когда IMTFE была открыта? Где 300000 трупов? Почему многие китайцы вернулись в Нанкин после Япония оккупировала город?
The Nanking Massacre was created by China!
undertakerRach 4 months ago
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OMG...
How could the Japanese kill 300,000 citizens in a city that held only 200,000 people?
The Chinese really want to spread Japanese bad rumors to the world. In youtube, they have written lot of groundless rumors about Japan. The rumors don’t have any conclusive evidence. The cause of this fact is the anti-Japanese policy of the Chinese government.
The Nanking Massacre was a false story.
AOTORA86 8 months ago
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China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
undertakerRach 9 months ago
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Chinese government created the fake story of Nanking Massacre. Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so called the Nanking Massacre? Definetely they wanted to make japanese atrocity for get help from the U.S.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach the reason US entered the war is because the bombing of pearl harbor. i dont care if you are denying the holocaust and the genocides that both hitler and japanese soldiers committed, but keep it to ur self
bb33nnii 10 months ago
Dude, Fuck You, you no better than the Holocaust deniers thAT are trying to nullify the truthn of the holocaust!! The Japanes committed the most horrible atrocities on the Chinese KoreN AND fILIPINO PEOPLE ane they ashous acknowledge this or DIER DIE DIE DIE economically and spiritually like the people they explioted ane tortured !! Thedrte ,must b e a Payback lObng live the memory of the beautigul IRIS CHANNG The Japanese e must acknowledge their SINS!!!!!!!!
shevampyre 1 year ago 2
난징 대학살은 중국 정부에 의해 만들어졌습니다.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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Ways That Are Dark ～The truth about China Ralph Townsend
If a jury of the most experienced Americans or Englishmen in China today were asked to name the most prominent characteristic in the Chinese mentality as opposed to our own, I think most if not all of them would unhesitatingly answer, “lying."
In the West we scarcely know anything about lying. We are rank amateurs.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part7)In fact so many things were misunderstood on rapes as well.
The first instance of misunderstandings was for the committee to take recruitment for prostitutes for rapes.The second instance was the confusion of taking Chinese soldiers for Japanese soldiers.The third instance was that Chinese, who lay hidden in the Safety Zone, camouflaged themselves to create the impression that looting and rapes had been committed by Japanese soldiers,
kaito8209 1 year ago
The slaughter was executed by a Chinese army.
YONA746 1 year ago
China has killed 1,200,000 Tibetans since 1955. The very Communist China declared that the problem of Tibet is a problem relating to domestic affairs and refused the interference of the foreign nations. On the other hand, the CCP is loudly denouncing the 'Nanking Massacre' which had been insisted on its happening more than sixty years ago, but not even clearly defined. This is ridiculous!
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach chinese citizens should not suffer for the actions of the chinese government
bb33nnii 10 months ago
@bb33nnii Free Tibet! People called so during the Olympic touch relay. Did you forget that?
undertakerRach 10 months ago
南京虐殺は1937年12月から1月までの日本軍滞在間にあったとされている。中国政府は各国の報道陣を招いて1937年12月から1938年10月24日まで300回を超える記者会見をしているが大虐殺について一度も触れていない。
南京安全委員会のジョンラーベ氏はドイツ人であるが、中国政府に武器を輸出する商人でもあった。よって中国側の武装はほとんどがドイツ製だった。
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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Google "Japanese War Crimes"
NEVER FORGET: Manila Massacre, Alexandra Hospital massacre, Sook Ching Massacre, Kalagong massacre, Laha massacre, Banka Island massacre, Parit Sulong massacre, Palawan massacre, Nan King Massacre, Three Alls Policy, Changi Prison, Hellships, Bataan Death March, Death Railway, Mass killings, Human experimentation and biological warfare, Use of chemical weapons, Preventable famine, Torture of POWs, Cannibalism, Forced labor, Comfort women, Looting STILL NO APOLOGY
germanyforever40 1 year ago
(Part4)Definitely, the Chinese government is afraid of occur a democratization movement such as the Tiananmen massacre in 1989. Thats why the government uses anti-Japanese education to kids. As a result, Chinese people firmly refuse the true facts. In other words, Chinese people are mind controlled by Chinese government. At least 147 pictures about so-called Nanking massacre are distorted by the Chinese government.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part3)Also, this very photo has been taken by Correspondent KUMASAKI （Japanese）in the province of Paoshan in the vicinity of Shanghai, on October 14, 1937.
In short, a scene of peaceful farming village has been secretly switched to the one that is taking villagers to somewhere prior to rape en masse. It is indeed a wicked act of secretly switching the picture. You know, this is the usual measures of China Government. Government miss led Chinese people, Chinese people are not wrong.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(part2)A set of four of pictures have appeared in the journal with the explanation, titled as "Utopia amidst the Gun-power: The 'Rising Sun' Village South of the Yangtze." The picture captioned with "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers." In those days in china, the lootings are often committed by the deserted Chinese soldiers. Therefore, the farmers have needed the protection of Japanese troops to engage in farming safely.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part1)One of the pictures have displayed at the 'Memorial Hall of Victims in Nanking Massacre'. Chinese gave a name to the photo "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of ladies were raped and forced into military prostitution. However, this photo has appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on November 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle.
oddballrach 1 year ago
3 days ago.Read this article in the TELEGRAPH UK "Human Bones could reveal truth of Japan's Unit731 experiments" in which the Japanese Imperial Army's medical research team tortured 10,000 people per year which has been considered some of the worst war crimes. A former nurse has revealed a mass grave in the Shinjuku district, Tokyo & the remains exhumed are believed to be of non-Japanese Asians.Unit 731 was active in China where it conducted biological & bacteriological tests on civilians & pow
atom2atom 1 year ago
(Part4)This Timperley fact based on the book which is called 曽虚白自伝(Page 201), which means曽虚白 Diary.曽虚白 was also one of the members of the Propaganda section. In fact, at least 143 of pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum were distorted by the Chinese government. Tell the truth, Japanese could kill 300,000 people and raped 80,000 women? They stayed in the Nanking only 6 weeks.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part3)One of the foundation upon which the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. But Timperley was, in fact, an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information. The section was propaganda section in China during the War. Timperley was paid by the propaganda section for editing the book.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part2)Thats why Chinese people called CPC, Mao soldiers, 共匪 which means communists pirates because they raped many women, plunder many towns, and murdered. Moreover, Chinese victims couldnt receive any medical treatment for they had no money. Chiang Kai-shek said, You can get medical treatment for free in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you. Thats why; poor Chinese claimed we were hurt by Japanese.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part1)During the Shino-Japanese war, Chinese military killed Chinese people as if they were a worm. One of the Chinese men whose name was梁啓超 called Chinese people戮民, which means never mind people die for our victory. The Chinese militarys characteristics were not only KMT but also CPC. CPC acted more brutally than KMT.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part3)Since the People's Republic of China was established in 1949, the frequency of its use of military forces reaches the double digits. On average, China has used military power every several years. In all cases, except for its support of North Vietnam war against South Vietnam, China has used force preemptively. China attacked the opponent first after careful preparation, whereas the opponent suffered from a surprise attack. Free Tibet ! Free Uigure!
oddballrach 1 year ago
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Liars at their best, Japanese propaganda!
Tiberiotertio 1 year ago
(Part2)Today, the China is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party and the Japan is democracy. While history should not be forgotten, we must also judge a country by its current actions. A recent survey of world public opinion from 2005 to 2007 found that Japan is the country most widely viewed as having a positive influence, which is helped by the fact that Japan has never used military power as a means for settling international conflicts after 1945.
oddballrach 1 year ago
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Liars at their best, Japanese propaganda!
Tiberiotertio 1 year ago
(Part1)Conflict Prevention and Confidence Building Measures between Japan and China by Vice Admiral (Ret.) Fumio Ota, Ph.D. Published on January 5th, 2009 ARTICLES
Chinese leaders always say to Japanese leaders that Japan should look at history as a mirror. It means that Japan should not forget her brutal actions against China during the Sino-Japanese conflict in the late 1930s and the beginning of the 1940s. However, since this period Japan and China have changed considerably.
oddballrach 1 year ago
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Liars at their best, Japanese propaganda!
Tiberiotertio 1 year ago
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myfreetibet 2 years ago
@myfreetibet I agree China is doing worse to the people of Tibet. Free Tibet!
bigfathippo53 2 years ago
@bigfathippo53 yep
myfreetibet 2 years ago
WHY IS JAPAN NOT TEACHING THEIR PART IN WW2 IN THEIR SCHOOLS? Because they have the blood of millions in their hands.Because their ancestors were a bunch of cowardly murderers who slaughtered innocent women & children.What kind of honourable race is that? Their Emperor was a mass murderer who never got the punishment he deserved & it was the Japanese in Hiroshima & Nagasaki who paid for his sins.
atom2atom 2 years ago
They are doing that because they don't want their youth to know their atrocities, because it would hurt their "pride" thus only a few youths today are even aware of what Japan did back then in World War 2.
IMO, they are just trying to escape their responsibility by just forgetting and brainwashing their youth
DMG125 2 years ago
QUILTY AS SIN! Thousands of dead men,women & children & Oddball (an appropriate name) is concerned about 147 supposedly fake photos? Every country that Japan invaded suffered the same barbaric pattern of torture under the Jap army,not just Nanking.Rape, beheadings,disembowelling of children & babies as sport, the murder of entire families, entire villages. Like me to go on, Oddball?
atom2atom 2 years ago 2
@atom2atom
【Did the Japanese Army commit systematic rape?】
(Part1)To begin with, the Safety Zone was the only place where women stayed in the city of Nanking. And in order to protect foreign rights and interests which were concentrated in the Safety Zone and avoid unnecessary conflicts with members of the Safety Zone Committee, the headquarters of the Japanese Army prohibited their soldiers' entry to the Safety Zone and posted guards at every important points,
kaito8209 1 year ago
@atom2atom
(Part2)judging from the danger of being attacked by many hidden Chinese soldiers as well. For these reasons, Japanese soldiers were unable to enter the Safety Zone at will, or no one dared to enter there at the risk of being attacked. Actually, the Japanese soldiers were very busy carrying out their duties such as guarding the gates and walls, taking up their position at antiaircraft observation posts and other various duties.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@atom2atom
(Part3)Therefore, there were no Japanese soldiers who could have time to go out of their quarters.Those who only got admittance to the Safety Zone were all in all about 1,600 soldiers of the 7th Regiment, the 9th Division, that were in charge of the garrison for the Safety Zone. In this situation a large-scale rape could not have happened. It must be further pointed out that there existed a significant reason why soldiers were restrained from committing rapes,
kaito8209 1 year ago
@atom2atom
(Part4) because if crimes had been disclosed, more than seven years' penal servitude would have been inevitable by the army penal code. They were fully aware of the severe penalties. Among the Japanese Army, the optimistic expectation prevailed that they could be able to return home soon after winning battles in Nanking. They also knew that due to Japan's economic prosperity nice jobs would be open to them. There were no motives to run the risk of illegal actions.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@atom2atom
(Part5)how many cases of rape were (including attempted) reported in the documents by the Safety Zone Committee? The total number was 361. And among them, there were only 61 cases, which definitely clarified who witnessed the cases, who heard and reported. Among these cases, only seven cases were clarified to be crimes committed by Japanese soldiers and notified the Japanese Army of the crime in order to disclose the fact and to capture the suspects.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@atom2atom
(Part8) to practice one of a series of Chinese strategies for the purpose of throwing Japanese soldiers into confusion. There were three different groupings as to the 'cases of rape' some Chinese asserted, and even 361 cases recorded in the documents of the Safety Zone Committee couldn't necessarily be concluded as Japanese crimes at all events.
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kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Yes, you are right.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
Definitely, the Chinese government is afraid of occur a democratization movement such as the Tiananmen massacre in 1989. Thats why the government uses anti-Japanese education to kids. As a result, Chinese people firmly refuse the true facts. In other words, Chinese people are mind controlled by Chinese government. At least 147 pictures about so-called Nanking massacre are distorted by the Chinese government.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part2)Although Magee, member of the Safety Zone Committee, testified in the IMTFE by saying 'the Japanese soldiers took everything away from the Chinese residents', he confessed in the cross-examination, what he himself witnessed was nothing but one case that 'a Japanese soldier deprived of some electric ice boxes.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part1)Do you know how much the Safety Zone Committee was aware of looting in the Nanking? According to documents of Magee, member of the Safety Zone Committee, so far referred to in this paper, those demonstrated the total number of looting by Japanese soldiers was 179 including those in rumor.
oddballrach 2 years ago
You cant believe your country's atrocities,Oddballrach? Or dont want to.Making excuses for yr Emperors, your armies, your people's evil deeds only perpetuates their crimes.You are as guilty as them. There are none so blind as they who will not see.
atom2atom 2 years ago
"One of the photos shows Jap soldiers giving gifts to chinese citizens" woop woop Im sure the babies who were used for bayonet practices love what they got!
What an insult to them this blogger this.Respect the dead.Many were killed by the Japanese during their occupancy in Asia.Cruelly & without remorse. Thats exactly what Oddballrach is about, distorting history because he has no remorse about his countrys WAR CRIMES against humanity!
atom2atom 2 years ago 2
The Jap soldiers in WW2 plundered,RAPED men,women.& children not only in China but in many other parts of SE Asia & that is a FACT. My parents were prisoners & victims to Jap brutality when they systematically massacred the Chinese in Singapore. So try yr pathetic excuses about the Jap being such honourable victors.They were the most BARBARIC army from the Emperor down,& you can try covering up all you want but TRUTH PREVAILS. The world knows this.Pity the criminals were never brought to justice
atom2atom 2 years ago 2
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(Part6)Out of these records, how could Bates have calculated the number 8,000 on rapes?Furthermore, as reported in the article of the Chicago Daily News dated on February 9, 1938, the Japanese Army investigated criminals about seven cases and severely punished them. The punishment was so severe that some complaints were expressed among the soldiers.By whom were 361 cases of rape committed that the Safety Zone Committee recorded?
kaito8209 1 year ago
Japanese atorocity? I can't believe it!
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part9)One of the pictures shows that Chinese Christians having worship service in Nanking with Reverend John Maggie, American pastor, after peace returned to the city. Photo from the Asahi Shinbun newspaper published on December 21, 1937, eight days after the Japanese occupation, in the article entitled "Nanking Smiles." The article stated, "Hearing their hymns, we noticed, Oh, today's Sunday."
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part8)One of the pictures shows that Chinese boy with big smile and Second Lieutenant Takashi Akaboshi with also smile, who led a fight along the Yangzi River. This photo was taken near the walls of Nanking just after the Japanese occupation. (Courtesy of Takashis wife).
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part7) One of the pictures shows "The Chinese citizens did not fear the Japanese and willingly cooperated with me for photo-taking," testified the press photographer Shinju Sato. The photo was taken in Nanking Safety Zone on December 15, 1937, two days after the occupation of Nanking.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part6) One of the pictures shows that Japanese soldiers nursing Chinese wounded soldiers. This photo was taken in Nanking on December 20, 1937, seven days after the occupation, by the correspondent Mr. Hayashi; placed in the Japanese pictorial magazine, Asahi-ban Shina-jihen Gaho, and published on January 27, 1938.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part5)One of the pictures shows that Chinese people were sick or were wounded in a hospital in Nanking, and Japanese medics nursing them. This photo was from the North China Daily News on December 18, 1937, five days after the occupation of Nanking.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part4) Japanese newspaper Asahi Shinbun, published on Dec. 18, 1937, five days after the occupation, reported scenes of the city in the article entitled, "Nanking in Restoring Peace": the pictures shows that Japanese soldiers buying from a Chinese, Chinese farmers who returned to Nanking cultivating their fields, Chinese citizens returning to Nanking, and Chinese adults and children smiling in front of barbershop on Street.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part3)One of the pictures shows that Japanese soldiers were having a pleasant chat with Chinese citizens who are wearing armbands of the flag of Japan in Nanking. This photo was taken on 20, Dec. 1937, seven days after the occupation, and published in the pictorial book, Shina-jihen Shasin Zensyu, in 1938
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part2) One of the pictures shows that Japanese soldiers gave gifts to Chinese citizens in Nanking. Photo from the British newspaper North China Daily News, published in China in English on December 24, 1937, eleven days after the Japanese occupation of Nanking.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part1)One of the pictures shows that many Nanking citizens, who had abhorred bad deeds done with the Chinese military in the city, welcomed the Japanese military after the Nanking battle. Japanese soldiers and the Nanking citizens in the picture wearing armbands of the flag of Japan and giving cheers, on the day of the Japanese militarys ceremonial entry into Nanking ("Sino-Japanese War Photograph News #15," the Mainichi Shinbun newspaper, published on Jan. 11, 1938)
oddballrach 2 years ago
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馬關條約 (1895 ): 臺灣被中國出賣.
南京大開溜 ( 1937 ):國民黨軍隊不戰而逃,帶走通信器材和金銀財寶(共軍不知去向 )
雅爾達密約 (1945): 中國被美,英,蘇共和中共聯合出賣而分崩離析.
國共戰爭 (1949): 國民黨軍隊慘敗,舟山大逃亡,國民黨下令趕走沒有作戰能力的平民 和女人下船.
張純如自殺 ( 2004 ): ( 南京大屠殺一書作者 ).
美台牛骨密約 (2009): 臺灣再次被國民黨(馬英九)出賣.
Toyokawam 2 years ago
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The population of nanking is merely 200,000.
HOW ON THE EARTH DID JAPANESE IMPERIAL ARMY KILL 300,000 PEOPLE ?
I THINK CHINESE SHOULD USE THEIR BRAIN.
haha XD
warawara 2 years ago
Pity. I have been to the nanjing museum in china, and it was a memorial.
Tex259 2 years ago
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The 2 atomic bomb on Japan is well deserve.
changofsingapore 2 years ago
why do u all WISH for japanese civilian casualties as compensation!?! Isn't it enuf?? why cant u stop hating each other!?
ErinnAri 2 years ago
How about I kill everyone you treasure? So that you will understand how we feel.
benjaminyad 2 years ago
huh? why would u want to take mor lives away? wat do u mean "we"? are u a nanking survivor??
ErinnAri 2 years ago
kazuueda2008jp
Son OF THE BITCH~:
看我口型：原谅哥说脏话，如果你是日本人，请你滚回你的大和民族，日本没有资格对中国指手画脚，无知你的你只会拿YY来自慰，不要跟中国谈素质问题，你懂个J8？你快回家看看，一会右翼分子在你老母出殡的第4天上了你妹妹那么你会为你的发言而后悔。如果你是个中国人，我祝你这个烧饼死一户口本，家里年年有人查出来得癌症
wiicheng 2 years ago
身為台灣的中國人，我在這裡支持你，我的姥姥就曾經在那所學校裡，所以我完全無法認同樓下受到日本政府思想改造的無知小輩。
benjaminyad 2 years ago
This hatred against today's Japanese for what a small minority of their ancestors did over 70 years ago is immature and irrational. Japanese are not the only mass murderers in East Asia. I'm sure there are descendants of Qin Shi Huang Di, Xiang Yu and perhaps even Kublai Khan in China today. Ancient Chinese cities and villages were decimated over and over again by civil wars - by Chinese warriors, not Japanese. It makes no sense to hate anyone other than perhaps extreme nationalists of Japan.
DaMoTaiShi 2 years ago
The American and Chinese are enslaving the Japanese by the lie of "Nanjing slaughter". This is unhappy(and japanese) for the world. ( #｀Д´)
yuyoshia 2 years ago
Oh, please, no one is "enslaving" the Japanese. They did that to themselves when they bought into the plans of Tojo & Co. and committed well-documented atrocities in mainland Asia. It's denial-mongers like you who are equally responsible for keeping the hate alive as are the Chinese and Korean nationalists.
DaMoTaiShi 2 years ago
I understood it. (^_-)-☆
yuyoshia 2 years ago
My grandfather and grandmother were in that city,so your word is useless to me.I feel sorry for you.
benjaminyad 2 years ago
Still, despite the actions of their ancestors, the people of Korea and China have never been compensated for these acts against humanity and there are people who are allowed to theorize if the Nanjing massacre ever happened. It is just as insulting as denying the holocaust which is no considered illegal in many countries.
rex22neo 2 years ago
hatred should have a reason to let this hate make sense.
we hate japan because you bitches massacre civilians, even baby and women at nanjing.
we hate 唐司令官 because this bitch have not protect our civilians and city.
CCTVNBCBBCNHK 2 years ago
中国共産党大虐殺
１、大躍進政策 死亡者 1億人
２、文化大革命 死亡者2億人
３、天安門事件 死亡者3万人
４、西倉侵略 死亡者2百万人
５、法輪功信者虐殺 100万人
６、中国政治犯虐殺 数10万人
中華人民共和国＝疑惑国家
kazuueda2008jp 2 years ago
天安門事件 死亡者3万人???
about 800 died
TheCentralasian 2 years ago
Did you count the number?
I guess you didn't XD
warawara 2 years ago
fuck japanese bastards.
PsychoSuo9000 2 years ago
南京防衛司令官 ＝＝敵前逃亡
kazuueda2008jp 2 years ago
so.... what do u mean by that? Japanese are still assholes. OK! Agreed!
PsychoSuo9000 2 years ago
中国軍＝虚弱
CHINESE ARMY？？？Where were they when People were killed. Also 唐司令官 Escaped . They never fought.
Chinese are 国恥民族.
kazuueda2008jp 2 years ago
so? It was still the Japs. that killed the ppl.
PsychoSuo9000 2 years ago
No. These day Chinese kill Japanese in Tokyo.
kazuueda2008jp 2 years ago
i wish.
PsychoSuo9000 2 years ago
U are something wrong.
You are dreaming 70-80years ago and now together.
kazuueda2008jp 2 years ago
人渣 kazuueda
戴着日本人的面具来骂中国人 可耻
我爱日本人 我更爱中国人 可是你 不值得我一丝博爱 你是人渣 挑拨离间的人渣
gaoyipin123 2 years ago
历史只要得到人们的重视 错误得到忏悔 就可以防止再次发生 可是你这种人渣 只会让历史重演 悲剧重现 你不配生存在人的世界里 你是恶魔 你是禽兽不如 没有思想没有大脑的渣滓
如果没有网络的屏封 你的名字会被人唾骂 会让人切齿 你的后代会因为你受人排挤
我咒你不得好死
gaoyipin123 2 years ago
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《从军歌〉
君不见，汉终军，弱冠系虏请长缨；
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齐从军，净胡尘，誓扫倭奴不顾身！
friedrichxjtu 2 years ago
the number of jap died from that 2 nuclear bomb is no where close to the number of people they killed in China, they should get another 2 nuks than we call it a even.
purelego 2 years ago
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yuyoshia 2 years ago
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yuyoshia 2 years ago
truly to be even, Japan might need 200 nukes
Since Japs killed 17 million Chinese, 2 nukes killed 170,000 Japs
mehdan2 2 years ago
No u are wrong, very very wrong. That's is what we called injustice man. 2 more nukes? You are so damn stupid. Japanese need 17 million more nukes to get even with all the crimes that they have done, one nuke per each chinese civilian killed :) Yeah, fuck u japanese assholes.
PsychoSuo9000 2 years ago
Dont even know how to use English, now try to use Chinese. Thief is a thief. Does not matter how your pretent. Take other people's land, and will say oh Damn soviet did not follow the rule. What rule, whose rule? Fuck Japs. From Pu li with love: "Fuck Japs, Fuck Jap 偽(通倭)王. Sons of incest actions. Get out of our land"
honey2944 2 years ago
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yuyoshia 2 years ago
南京的人口
1937年20万人
日军占领后···
1938年25万人
为何中国人返回「虐杀·rape地狱」？
可笑吧？（～～）
yuyoshia 2 years ago
????20万+5万=25万！
向南京城内逃跑了的国民党军。
10万其中5万人不能逮捕的杠杆啦？
算术，民间人士一人也没被杀死。(^^)
yuyoshia 2 years ago
Yeah, FYI. When you retreat from China in 1945, you left more than 3 million JAP woman and children. Why JAP man pig ran faster than their woman? You useless pussy.
honey2944 2 years ago
本土防衛の為、主な兵員・資材・弾薬は日本へ送られていた。1945年満州の関東軍は僅かな指揮官が臨時応酬した寄せ集めの兵を率いた実態の無いもの。しかもソ連軍は「不可侵条約」を一方的に破って侵入してきた。汚い奴らだ。「独ソ戦」で日本は条約を守ったにもかかわらず。
yuyoshia 2 years ago
20万人變25万
它忘記算10万日本兵。日本豬的蒜素蠻爛的，吃shit長大的，沒有辦法啊。
honey2944 2 years ago
什么时候「松井岩根大将」的「中支那方面派遣军12万」是成为中国居民的？成为了便服兵的落空？笑。
yuyoshia 2 years ago
台湾和满洲日军都占领了之后，中国人的移民纷纷来到。为何？
单纯，还用宣传没被洗脑哟
puhaha~(^^)
yuyoshia 2 years ago
Go fuck yourself, you JAP pigs. 台湾和满洲日军都? You invader. Go to North China and/or TW now; your ass will be kicked and fucked. Fucker.
honey2944 2 years ago
发动战争了，还在那里强词夺理，还真可恶。你还有人性吗？你不会为自己的祖先犯下的罪行感到羞愧吗？是否还要吞多几颗核弹才肯休罢？用词过于激动了请原谅，因为我是一个有人性的人。当时的日本，还真的很好笑，华侨有句俗话有事没事，跑来打别人，找死啊？这不就是说着日本人吗？
tsukouyomi 2 years ago
发起战争的，都是一个凶手，无论杀了多少人，血是有的。yuyo你敢说日本在发动战争的时候不曾杀过一名无辜的老百姓吗？大屠杀，小屠杀，都是杀。我说过，三个也是命，万个也是命。还有，yuyo如果看不懂，请多多翻查汉语词典吧。学华语有好处。可以让你了解到人性与人命的珍贵。
tsukouyomi 2 years ago
(Kanazawa the ninth division)Only this : the fact that understands from the former Japanese soldiers' testimonies.
"To clean up a Chinese army that took off a uniform, the adult male in the castle is about 20,000 people and is arrested and is murdered. "
300,000 person murder is a lie.
The rape is a lie.
The murder of women and children is a lie.
The Japanese is not generous to the lie.
yuyoshia 2 years ago
i dont what should i say... actually my english is not much well, but at least i knew that Japanese has done same thing on my country... massacre... not only on Nanking, but everywhere where has been reached by Japanese army.... 对不起，英文烂了些。无论这段历史是否符合事实，但无可否认的是，这场战争是日本发起的不是吗？
tsukouyomi 2 years ago
As for propaganda, everything is not composed of the lie. It is a purpose the exaggerated dramatization based on the fact and the ally of an inside and outside public opinion together with the lie.
yuyoshia 2 years ago
Is your source wikipedia?It laughs.
Have you seen wikipedia of South Korea?The lie has been filled there. It is unrelated to "Truth".
yuyoshia 2 years ago
KMT has many Japanese advisors before WW2. And Chiang studied in Jap, can you call him an Jap allian? He refused Japanese proposal in dividing China after Shanghai battle, and fought 8 years.
The true allian with Nazi_Germany was Japan, the core Axis-Power. Nazi stopped selling weapon and advisor to KMT after signing Axis with Jap.
Dont know how you guys study history. Go check wikipedia en. They were written by non-chinese.
iysum 2 years ago
It is difficult in the emergency to look for the testimony to "Third party who doesn't have the interest that can be trusted" at the WW2 this time. For instance, the military assistance advisory group is sent to a Chinese national party at the same time while connecting Japan with the alliance even if it is the German, and the Nanjing propaganda is designed.
Do you know "Principle of a modern law" ?
"doubtfulness crime is not received. "
yuyoshia 2 years ago
No, it is not yuyoshia. I am no part of PRC government, and might not agree with them on many things. But on Nanking Massacre, I firmly believe that you are very wrong. Nanking Massacre happened, its Japanese right-winger try to whitewash its crimes during WWII. Can you explain why so many 3rd party witnesses testify against Japanese Army? John Rabe, Wilson and many others, none of them have anything to do with PRC government.
iysum 2 years ago
ドイツが当時の国民党へ軍事顧問団を送り、大量の武器を輸出していたことを知りませんか？南京大虐殺はファルケンハウゼン中将発案のプロパガンダですよ。ジョン・ラーベは第三者ではない。（ーー；）
yuyoshia 2 years ago
This is absolute not true. Farukenhauzen wrote a report based on Nanking Massacre film Rabe smuggled out of China. Rabe was persecuted by Nazi for telling people abou Nanking Massacre. Nazi took him to concentration camp till he stopped talking about Nanking Massacre. He kept film and diary which published after his death. These are all from 3rd party source.
iysum 2 years ago
It is used as "Acquittal card" for "Nanjing" to deceive the crime and the invasion by Chinese as a problem of the reality. It is insisted, the most belligerent race in the present world be "Victim" of "Holocaust". It looks like well.
yuyoshia 2 years ago
Yuyoshia, you first drew a box, put yourself in it, then look at the world through the little shaped window you dig on the wall. How could one ever be objective if you come to conclusion before weighting on arguements, or makes judgement before seeing evidences. These are very dangerous things to do. If all japanese are like you, i dont think Chinese ever need to worry about competition from Japan. What happened to Japan. LOL.
iysum 2 years ago
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iysum 2 years ago
あと、中国共産党、朝鮮労働党、大韓民国の教科書、毎日テレビで流れる「抗日ドラマ」も、証拠にならないよ～。Oh, Chinese Communist Party, Korean Workers' Party, a Korean textbook, "the anti-Japanese movement drama" flowing on TV every day do not become evidence.
yuyoshia 2 years ago
These are testimony from 3rd party foreigners. I dont think these are any propaganda.
iysum 2 years ago
利害関係者の証言は証拠にならない。The testimony with the interest doesn't become evidence. 日本人やイギリス人は嘘を嫌う。プロパガンダはすべてが嘘ではない。少しの事実を含める。In "Propaganda", all are not lies. A few facts are included. （＾＾）
yuyoshia 2 years ago
６０年後、外国人がもし、「天安門事件」は「女子供を含む３０万人大屠殺で、レイプまであった！」と言われたら、中国人は「明らかなプロパガンダである！」と主張しないだろうか？
yuyoshia 2 years ago
Killing - witness by Robert O. Wilson: "The slaughter of civilians is appalling. I could go on for pages telling of cases of rape and brutality almost beyond belief. Two bayoneted corpses are the only survivors of seven street cleaners who were sitting in their headquarters when Japanese soldiers came in and killed without warning or reason.
iysum 2 years ago
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iysum 2 years ago
Chinese dont want to mention Nanking Massacre. But we are angered by Japapnese who tried to deny what really happened.
中国人は南京大虐殺について言及したがっていません。しかし、私 たちは怒っています。日本人はまさしくその事実を否定します。
(used translation)
iysum 2 years ago
By the mother tongue to write accurately.
この事件は、軍服を脱いで南京城内の民間人の中に逃走した敗走軍を掃討するため、成壮年男子（疑わしき者も含む）２万人弱が逮捕・殺害されたのが全て。３０万人＝嘘。女子供の殺害＝嘘。レイプ＝嘘。
yuyoshia 2 years ago
Rape - witness by Reverend James M. McCallum: "Never I have heard or read such brutality by Japanese Army. Rape! Rape! Rape! We estimate at least 1,000 cases a night, and many by day. In case of resistance or anything that seems like disapproval, there is a bayonet stab or a bullet... People are hysterical... Women are being carried off every morning, afternoon and evening. The whole Japanese army seems to be free to go and come as it pleases, and to do whatever it pleases."
iysum 2 years ago
No chinese in this forum are a part of propaganda. More than 300,000 of our forefathers were killed brutually, it would be unhuman if Chinese do not remember it. This is an extremely painful part of history for all Chinese; it could have been healed; but Japanese right-wingers' continue denial peeled off the scars repeatly. NO ONE is anti-Japan here. But we dispise those who commited crime but dared to deny the crime.
iysum 2 years ago
"Propaganda" is already a war.
yuyoshia 2 years ago
It is funny that Japanese call this an propaganda. The producer is critized by many chinese for being too kind to Japanese soldiers, filmed them too humanly. Mkst2009 call this a propaganda. He did not even watch this film. How can you critize it if you did not even watch the film. That is purely being subjective and pregidous. That is true propaganda.
iysum 2 years ago
Japanese are beasts.
honey2944 2 years ago
On Nanking population:
Zhang Lianhong, professor of Nanjing Massacre Research Center in Nanjing Normal University, published an article in 2003, in which he reconfirmed that the population of Nanjing urban area was between 367,000 and 467,000, and the overall Nanjing population was between 535,000 and 635,000. In 1927, Nanjing only included the urban area. In March 1935, 21 townships formerly under the jurisdiction of Jiangning County were merged into Nanjing.
iysum 2 years ago
On Nanking population:
Original Nanjing citizens 300,000 -400,000; refugees from Shanghai 100,000+; Over 116,919 Chinese soldiers participated in defending Nanjing. 47,382 reported lost, of whom~10,000 died in war, thus at least 37,000 Chinese soldiers stayed in Nanjing City after the Japanese army occupied it. A Japanese military spy report revealed that more than 530,000 citizens lived in Nanjing in late October of 1937.
Source: Research by Wang Sining and Daragh Moller, December 28, 2003
iysum 2 years ago
Iysum, I don't know why you still talk to that Ass-kissing lier mskt2009. He is full of shit and only talk in circles. If you bring him in front of a pile of gold, he would say it is shit. You should know, he is a pile shit himself. In his eyes, gold is shit and shit is till shit. That is Japanese, they are shit.
honey2944 2 years ago
All you can do is complaining?
mkst2009 2 years ago
Are you talking to yourself?
iysum 2 years ago
Calm down
mkst2009 2 years ago
Well answer the question. The whole world is listening to you. Why cannot you notice that you are already refuted mkst2009? Please face the fact yourself. You are lying, and talking in circles.
iysum 2 years ago
It's my turn.
Why did population increase during Japanese army's occupation?
mkst2009 2 years ago
I answered already. No complains. Yet you did not answer why they are so many foreigners pointed fingurs to you? Saying that Japanese committed all these artrocities? Did you all hate Japanese?
iysum 2 years ago
For example, John Rabe repored Japanese embassy there was few destruction by attack and thanks to Japanese army, Nanking could keep peace, but he reported 50,000 ～ 60,000 people were killed toward Hitler. He sold many munitions product to KMT, so he didn't want Gemany to make alliance with Japan and lost his business.
mkst2009 2 years ago
Lie. Where is your reference. Here is on 13 December 1937, John Rabe wrote:
"It is not until we tour the city that we learn the extent of destruction. We come across corpses every 100 to 200 yards. The bodies of civilians that I examined had bullet holes in their backs. These people had presumably fleeing and were shot from behind. The Japanese march through the city in groups of ten to twenty soldiers and loot almost every shop on Chung Shang and Taiping Road."
iysum 2 years ago
As I said, all of these reports were hearsay, nobody of international committee witnessed them actually.
mkst2009 2 years ago
Mkst2009 does not know how he could answer this question. He is thinking: "I know that Japan did all these killings. But I cannot admit. Why were all these stupid foreigners so honest? Why did they tell the truth? What should I do? Let me talk in circles and fool around."
honey2944 2 years ago
Look at mkst2009's profile picture. He is dead indeed.
honey2944 2 years ago
Your way of abuse is childish. Are you a little child?
mkst2009 2 years ago
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As per your answer, here is for you. All you can do is complaining. Are you talking to yourself?
mkst2009 (13 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam I've already answered those questions.
>You waste my time and talk in circles
Are you talking to yourself?
iysum 2 years ago
My advise to jap on this page: 1) Accuracy is the soul of history. How could you claim that you get history right, if you could not even get the names right; 2) Please stop reading and reference on the history written by your own historians. Read books and reference from other countries, particularly 3rd parties'. They are more objective.
iysum 2 years ago
mkst2009 2 years ago
On Nanking population:
Original Nanjing citizens 300,000 -400,000; refugees from Shanghai 100,000+; 116,919 Chinese soldiers participated in defending Nanjing. 47,382 reported lost, of whom <10,000 died during the war. Therefore, ~ 37,000 Chinese soldiers stayed in Nanjing City after the Japanese occupation. A Japanese military spy report revealed that over 530,000 chinese lived in Nanjing in Oct 1937.
After Nanking Massacre, Chinese population dropped to 200,000, most in International zone.
iysum 2 years ago
mkst2009: "3rd parties'data says pupulation in Nanking increased during Japan's occupation＾＾"
>> More than Chinese population dropped from over 500,000 to 200,000. Which 3rd party data? Mind provide reference? Did they take account of Japanese soldiers and later Japanese immigrants?
iysum 2 years ago
Oh yeah?
Population in Nanking in Dec 17 1937 was 200,000 according to the Nanking International committee's official report T-6.
mkst2009 2 years ago
Firstly, please provide reference, you have been putting too many bull shits here. Second, population of Nanjing urban area was between 367,000 and 467,000 in 1937, and the overall Nanjing population was between 535,000 and 635,000. In 1927, Nanjing only included the urban area. In March 1935, 21 townships under Jiangning County were merged into Nanjing.
There were 200,000 in the international zone under Nanking International committee.
iysum 2 years ago
Why do you always require source? Putting URL is hard working.
h t t p : / / members . at . infoseek . c o . j p / NankingMass acre / mondai / jinkou / jinkou01. h t m # No6
mkst2009 2 years ago
Go get the sources right, before you put anything on website. Get names right, use 3rd party source. Japanese sources are most subjective, mostly tailored by right-wingers. This is an example. Why do they not publish the entire letter? Go find the version with full letters.
iysum 2 years ago
Oh yeah?
Japanese national diet member Matsubara sent a public question about population and other doubtful data to China, but Wen Jiabao and also Hu Jintao didn't answer these questions.
watch?v=itgblzMKFvY
mkst2009 2 years ago
And who is the Matsubara? Is he the Emperor or Prime Minister of Japan? Why do you think he could request an immediate answer from or engage a debate with Chinese president/prime minister? China and Japan are two different country, there would be proper diplomatic channels to handle this. Did Japanese government take him seriously and considered him truthful? This is a stupidly arrogant statement.
iysum 2 years ago
Huh? Why Japanese national Diet's member can't ask public question to Chinese government?
mkst2009 2 years ago
Sure. Just like me now calling to the Japan prime minster: "Hey come to answer my question: why did Japan invaded China. Why does this stupid mkst2009 still allowed in youtube"? Now I am waiting for one day, the Japanese prime minister has not answer my quesiton yet. Tell me why me, a Hong Kong Diet's member cannot ask public question to Japanese government?
iysum 2 years ago
> the overall Nanjing population was between 535,000 and 635,000
Crazy Japanese left wings always say so. But Most civilians were in safety zone before Japanese army entered Nanking except for a few foreign journalists and robbers. According to the international committee official report T-6 1937/12/17, "We made most Nanking civilians flee to safety zone"
Game Over.
mkst2009 2 years ago
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iysum 2 years ago
Crazy right-winger always makes up things to justify the massacre as well. Look at the website you provided, first they are abridged version, then they mentioned that there are 200,000 refugees in the safety (that is consistant), third they mentioned that these 200,000 were in hunger(japanese army have robbed food from them).
Where are the remaining 300,00 - 400,000 civlians and POW outside of safety zone. There burial documents by Nanking international committee.
iysum 2 years ago
Accrding to the Rabe's report to Hitler in Dec 13 1937, "There is no people in Nanking out of safety zone except for we international committee members, a few American journalists, and a few Europeans left. China insists many Chinese still hid, but we couldn't confirm it".
mkst2009 2 years ago
No Chinese would dared to get out of the safety, zone. They only wanted to get in if they were luck enough not being killed by Japanese armies. Many of the 300,000 were killed before they reached safety zone. Moreover, People wont go out did not mean that the Japanese soldiers wont get in. International comittees complained many times to Japanese general that Jap soldiers broke in the safty zone, killed and raped Chinese civilians.
iysum 2 years ago
So called T-6 documents from international committee were actually the 61 letters sent by Nanking International Committee to the Japanese Army between Dec 13, 1937 to Feb 9, 1938. If your sources can let see read the whole letters, you would see these letters reporting various Japanese artrocities in and out of safety zone during the period. Go get your history right first.
iysum 2 years ago
According to these 61 reports, they reported murder: 41, mayhem: 44, rape: 361, taking: 390, plunder and others: 170 for 2 months. However, all of these reports were hearsay, nobody of this committee witnessed them actually. John G.Magee, George Ashmore Fitch, Miner Searle Bates and Robert O.Wilson. They testified they did not witness any muder and heard from some one. IMTFE proved nobody witnessed murders actually and they wrote reports on the basis of Hearsay.
mkst2009 2 years ago
You lie. These are the crimes they witnessed in safety zone, not include the ones outside of safety zone. Safety zone was protected by international law; and supposedly Japanese general protected the its safety (why was it called safety zone??) Even so, the Japanese soldiers dared to entered and committed crimes. How much more crime they admitted outside of the safety zone in Nanking. Go see their testify in other documents.
iysum 2 years ago