FAST Winchester 1300 Defender 'Speed Pump' shotgun

[marmaloon]

Go to blazes fudds! Fudds will be the death of personal firearms ownership.

[PowerViolenceForever]

The record is still set with a Benelli. The whole 'speed pump' is purely marketing.

[davemccarthy707]

@PowerViolenceForever Benelli took their rotating bolt design directly from Winchester ;)

[PowerViolenceForever]

@davemccarthy707 good to know. 

[Pupil0fGod]

I thought you were slam firing till it was slowed. I in no way have that much coordination.

[HackerAndBootSniffer]

The old Rossi's that you hold the trigger down and pump are better yet.

[jtdc86]

i would love to see the accuracy 

[Firearms4Canada]

Couldn't match the speed with my win pump dry firing. Fast!!

[emasterpiece15]

i shoot faster with my M12

[BlankPicketSign]

are you slam firing or are you pulling the trigger uber fast? =^_^=

[BCH37501]

@BlankPicketSign hes holding that trigger down so imma guess "slam firing"

[BlankPicketSign]

@BCH37501

*Intense Stare* o_o

[thesidewindersleeps]

@BCH37501 he is NOT holding the trigger down. The model 1300 has a trigger disconnector.

[blackwinter35]

you just cock it while holding the triger right

[tromboista]

Wow, they could have used you at LZ X-Ray

[biggamerboy1]

@pgd357 yeah i looked at that aswell and tried to say that to my mate who thinks that a pump action shot gun takes a long time to pump...

[Bosanac199pete]

If i did that, my shit would jam 5 times.

[napalm350z]

crap man... i cant shoot a saiga 12 that fast..

[DeamonRiders]

Now try hitting the target and not the bear standing 100 feet aside of it.

[jrwel14]

have the 1300 defender. It holds 8 shells. haven't looked to see if it has a trigger disconnect like my Winchster 12. If, so. That would enable slam firing. Also have the 500 and 870. Neither of them have the most power compared to the others. That's based on amount of power charge.

[liftedreds10]

2 3/4in?

[igosin]

Блин, он "рекордом" что ли стреляет?

[Jomammacita]

Granted you had muzzle rise after the first shot but none after that. Great job. What load were you using?

[bigwhiteyeti]

Do you hold the trigger down when you do that (and the weapon fires immediately when the bolt closes), or do you have to pull the trigger again after cycling it? If it's the second option then damn, you've got some good co-ordination!

[zainaku]

Thats an odd looking gun. Is there a trap door where you load the rounds? And is it capable of 3" shells or just 2 and 3/4

[cnmirose]

2.3 sec for 8 shells by my count.

[saj12100]

can it slamfire?

[igosin]

Нихуя себе хуярит!!!

[jimjamjoe2141]

hes basically holdng the trigger while cocking

[joseshar]

The shoulder tenderizer

[lmstiger67]

@joseshar lol....ur right about that

[futurerev21]

i can EASILY do that dude

[Joe198969]

I think i can out do and out peform with my Remington 870 super express. I have a 20 gauge winchester speed pump and it don't compare to my 870 super express 12 gauge

[iCecilJackson]

I want you on my team when the zombies come.....

[0Shank0]

mighty good shooting and what shells were you using btw?

[karateslaginnek]

Hi there, I really like that leather jacket!

[Aussie038]

that was fast...yeah baby!

[Hokie58]

Some People can't just enjoy a good video without dissecting every thing about it....seems like some need to step away from the comp and get out more....LOL...nice vid man.....

[BPauxNavy]

take that you damned dirty apes!

[styler797]

Das mache ich immer mit meiner lego-shotgun^^

[RedCellx6]

Winny 1300 defender > Mossberg 590/500

[deathfromsniper]

nice job man thats awsome i have a vid on here shooting my pump shot gun shooting 5 rounds in abought 1 1/2 seconds

[deathofkindness]

nice...I like the slow mo..I was thinking you were just holding the trigger till you slowed her down a bit

Now for some fun...Film that same sequence but have a target in from of you so we can see the impacts...that would be hawt!!

[dotShinoda]

Do you have to press the trigger every time you pump or do you just hold the trigger down?

[nitrotec34]

no problem,i did it faster !

[VMFA115Starloric]

Video or I call bullshit

[SUP3RZ0MB1E]

@nitrotec34 I agree, where is your video?

[SFCGrazier]

Dude I thought I was fast with mine, but you totally destroyed my video haha!!

[loverg31]

whats really awesome is i did not plan to do this, i too a friend out shooting and have shot so much in my life I did not want to shoot. After begging me to shoot several times, i said fine, alright, pass me the shotgun. When he did I through him my camera and said fine film this, I fired 8 rounds in around 3 seconds.

[Sartorius2424]

The Winchester 1300 is one faaaast shotgun. Too bad they don't make'em anymore. I had to get my hands on a used one on Gunbroker...can't pass up having such a nice shotty.

[Michlimania]

I just missed one in the paper (unshot) for $250.00 US...it was gone in a flash.

[volopok]

looks like some one i know

[SecretSpetsnaz]

EPIC!!

[bradsterfordawin]

WOW just like my 120 but mine is older design

[dukedevils22]

slamfire is great

[viperboost931]

I don' t think that's a slam fire. You can see him execute each trigger pull, and I think shotguns generally have trigger disconnects nowadays.

[Migs4000]

Fun ues but looks like you shot high

[swcwcc]

id swear that was onw of my dad's old home videos; but his was more tacticle

bye the way-are pistle grip shotguns considered sawn-offs?

[enjoisk8r20]

No, theyre mainly for home protection situations though

[fastindy]

Is part of the barrel sawed off to make it under 18 inches long?

[AreThereNoMoreNames]

A "sawn off" shotgun is a bit vague. If you mean a short-barreled shotgun you'd be required to do the extra paperwork on, then so long as it's over 18" of barrel length from the bolt face to the muzzle on a closed bolt, and it must be over 26". I, myself, have a sawn-off Kahn that's 18.5" of barrels, and 1.5" off the stock, and it's still legal.

I believe in Canada, it's about the same, but factory short-barreled shotguns are legal, though sawing them off yourself is not.

[sparks12001]

@swcwcc Cruisers? If so i really only consider a sawn off a short barrel, not a short stock. XD

[djrgg]

i wonder what happens if you make miniun that shoots shotgun shels

[Captb55806]

I do not see very many Winchesters and Gun Shops anymore. At least where I live in California I go to a Big 5 they do not carry Winchester or Browning. I go to a local Gun Shop and they say they do not carry Winchester or Browning and if they do they do not get very many of them.'

I do not know why maybe its because

Remington is dominated the gun market?

[DanielMazanec]

For one thing, Winchester stopped making shotguns a few years ago.

[Captb55806]

Oh really ? Hum ? I did not know that .

Thanks for the information. All I know is that Winchester stop making lever action rifels which is a shame. Winchester must have screwed big time which is the reason why their plant in New Haven closed down. Then that must mean my late Fathers 20 Gage Shotgun is worth money due to the fact Winchester stop making them? Its old shotgun made back in 1965 my Dad got it for his 16th Birthday at the time.

[murderkid200]

What do you mean they stopped making shotguns?? Have you Seen the SX 3 or The SXP? or do you mean that they're made by FN??

[loverg31]

No they make the xps semi shotgun and a pump shotgun and produce FN made over and undershotguns.

[PatriotMuscle]

@loverg31 Yeah. I discovered this just minutes after I posted that comment. I'd like to get me a nice semi-shotgun. Either Winchester or Weatherby.

[Jarek4]

it's remington and mossberg owning the shotgun market right now

[Captb55806]

Also add Berneill on the list. At a local gun shop where I live Berneill is third top seller.

[reedville123]

benelli. and they are bad ass

[Captb55806]

Benelli will be on my list for my collection.

[Hitsulikeapunch]

thats how i do it with my minigun

[m6dm90]

that how i do it with my mossberg 590a1

[scandishredder]

this almost looks fake, when its in real speed.

[loverg31]

I know but it's not

[MrBiblia]

Ah!!! whenever the pump goes forward, pull the trigger!!!

:D

[CrystalHunter1989]

I just got re-aquatinted with my 1300 (not sure what kind it is, maybe a Black Shadow, would it say that on the gun itself?) earlier today. 12 gauge and a 24-inch barrel. Dang....I forgot just how powerful it is! I'll never feel underpowered when behind THAT trigger!

[covGuk]

whats the point of this, when you have muzzle climb?

who gives a shit about how fast you can reload another shell, i want power, and handling. like the mossberg 590, 500

and remington 870.

[Bombtrack411]

obviously, you're not gonna want to shoot it like this. This is just a demonstration showing that it CAN fire fast.

[rotjesenmatjes]

If you need to fight again zombies this gun is usefull

LOL!

[ViEtRiCeR]

If everyone had that mind set, we wouldn't have semi-automatic guns.

[SUP3RZ0MB1E]

@covGuk The point is, its fun, you hard ass. Live a little.

[loverg31]

hey buds,

The point of this is too learn how to have max control,and to know the action very well so if you rely on this for bear protection as I do on camping trips you have the best possible chance of using your firearm to it's max capabilities. As far as muzzle jump, the gun never makes me jump.I pretty much let it jump me that time to see how much effort I needed to take out of controlling it to let it jump. Its not bad for this gun either, it's designed for speed shooting.

[John234pwns]

@covGuk How is power any different between one twelve gauge shotgun and another? And handling is very close to the Remington 870 anyway.

[jrwel14]

@covGuk power is not by gun wnen in the same gauge. But, by shot charge.

[hydra046]

@covGuk Protip: All 12 gauge shotguns have the same "Power" when firing buckshot.

[fordtractors4100]

@covGuk what the fuck difference is power in a mossber and remington from a winchester, absolutely nothing. what he was demonstrating was why a lot of people, including myself, prefer the 1300. and there strong point is the speed pump. a well trained shooter could rip em off fast like that and still have accuracy.

[dewthedav]

@covGuk Actually, if you werent envious of his abilities you would see that the muzzle climbe2d very little and he was pretty much right on target.

[thehoovah]

@covGuk If reload speed didnt matter we still would be lining up on the battle field with muskets. It does matter especially if you miss with your fist shot. Power with a shot gun depends on the ammunition and not much at all with the gun. The winchester also handles just as well as those others shotguns.

[iamjosh112233]

damn that would be good on a pig rally

[pakhero4lyf]

my father had that shotgun when i was young. Its an amazing piece od art

[forestspeyer123]

are you slam firing? (stupid question but i just want to know)

[spankavision1]

yeah ditto that, thats what it looks like. But can you clarify for us? Nice gun!

[Chipster1337]

Winchester 1300s can't be slam fired from the factory. Maybe theres away to modify it but I'd say hes not slam firing it. Hes just got good timing with the slide and the trigger.

[LightningMan21]

that was so freaking awesome! this guy rules..he could shoot any kind of round through that thing & still be fast! wicked vid dude!

[soopamaggot]

Shooting with Winchester Defender 1300 is a great fun, Been shooting that gun for seven years now......just terrific

bertlb

[metallica2014]

I love mine too but mines not a defender...im not really a tactical guy ya know? but it sucks that they closed down the plant that makes them

[twreck45]

Betcha weren't doin that with buck shot, eh?

[Jesus1229]

i've shot it with slugs like that... that shit was tight

[FallingTruth360]

i want that gun

[stitched83]

just picked me up one of these bad boys :)

[AltonJB1984]

wow nice!! that was quick for a pump for sure!

[dewman6655]

MY DAD HAS THAT SHOTGUN!!!no one is comin 2 our house uninvited i love that gun and what a satasfying sound when you pump it!

[tom00440]

hey dude dont do that to the gun alot it can cause it to jam im just saying

[enriquecarloslopezsi]

dude def not magnums or else u would be on the floor thats prob game load rigth like ..

[Rihabrr]

Wow i could do that give me a gun and i'll shoot quickly

[scoutusmcsniper]

thats not good for your gun if your just holding the trigger and pumping.

[RipTyde26]

It's called auto triggering. Some pumps are built for it so it doesn't damage the gun. Others are possible to auto trig but it's bad for them.

[gunfuego]

BTW its not auto triggering it's slam-fire.......

[nowthisisstupid]

@gunfuego No slam fire is when you hold the trigger and rack the slide and it fires again. You cannot do that with a real firearm because the trigger just resets and you have to release the trigger a little bit and when the trigger clicks it has reset and you can fire. Slam-firing is an airsoft term...

[gunfuego]

@nowthisisstupid there's several that can slamfire but a good example is the winchester 1897......

[nowthisisstupid]

@gunfuego Yeah, the 1897 has an exposed hammer, shotguns like the 1300 do not have and exposed hammer and they reset after every cycle of the action... MAking slam fire impossible without modification (not recommended) I am guessing.

[BLAZEDALLDATIME]

@nowthisisstupid you can totaly have a shotgun that will fire if you hold the trigger down and pump and it will fire it but all of them are police edition shotguns you can totaly go to poilce auction or gun show and get one i used to have a mossburge that was a poilice edition and you could do it i think thats the only difference between a regular and a police edtion

[truemonster1]

@gunfuego no, its the speed pump design. recoil assists the rearward action of the pump, its a beautiful thing.

[loverg31]

hes right about some guns beeing able too.

I'm not holding down the trigger while i shoot the 8 shots, doin this with a M1300 Winchester shotgun like this one will not work..it will not let u shoot the shotgun more then once..so im pulling the trigger between shots, as u can see in the slow-mo replay :)

[Spaxel90]

i caught that, and it is impressive. to get timing that fine must have taken a lot of practice.

[rabbiteh]

@scoutusmcsniper shotguns with combat trigger are meant to work like that, keep the trigger pressed and you fire a shot when you rack the pump forward with a live round. Dont need to depress it.

[manuel5845]

@scoutusmcsniper you are right men, i was exactly going to comment that

[ksald]

i wont it

[Naylor2689]

Same shotgun I have, love it.

[BBB517]

Yeah I've got one I can shoot that fast... it's called a semi auto, ha ha ha.

[pitshit84]

why dont you post a video of it?

[BBB517]

Hmm, never even thought of that, but I don't because I don't really have a camera... all my money goes into expensive guns, lol.

[pitshit84]

nice. my next shottie will be the winchester SX3 auto loader. check it out if you havent.

[BBB517]

Mmm, very nice choice

[USAWARRIOR9MM]

question? which would you rather pick winchester 1300? or remington 870?

[defforreason]

one of each

[Z3R0Xrix]

hmm good question i like shotguns tho lol i go hunting with that and my L96 really fun^_^

[loverg31]

I have shoot and carried the 870 in afghanistan and prefer my 1300

[lazarevic95]

@USAWARRIOR9MM YEA BABY 870 HOORAH

[InsaneMojo2]

holy shit, nice kickback

[thuggiesmurff]

nice shooting , I too own this same shotgun, I bought it used it came with a side saddle to hold 6 extra shells and a beamshot laser it's a great gun

[dinkanddoink]

yeah my model 12 can do that to

[toreyjw1]

nice way to tear shit up

[taco11555]

awesome

[WCSO1750]

something comes out of the bottom of the action on the first shot??

[loverg31]

its part of a 12gage shell holder on the other side of the gun

[WCSO1750]

Did you break the trigger group?

[jpcox23]

very good shooting

[loverg31]

thanks :)

[OverHedge99]

Didn't Winchester discontinue this shotgun?

[stlawrencefisherman]

Nope, Winchester is still making this shotgun.

[stlawrencefisherman]

Actually, I was wrong. Winchester did discontinue the 1300 Defender. I mixed up Winchester's new "Speed Pump Defender" with the older 1300 Defender. Sorry about the confusion.

[Dizzarchangel]

what makes it so fast?

[techrick1210]

not caring if the shots are placed or not mate, thats what. These shots were all over the place, could have had is eyes closed for all we know

[redeyewill]

I have the same shoty with the pistol grip and a tactical sling. I use it in praries of Canada in mid winter 30 below on my my sled (aka snowmobile) speed tracking coyotes. It is silly how well it works. I would post a vid but the tree huggers might get a little choked. Although it is my ranch and I am just protecting my cattle and having a BLAST doing it.

[mdailey250x]

Where's the video?

[toniezar]

How accurate is your pattern with such fast shooting?

[spektek9]

That was aweasome! very cool.

[spektek9]

Could you make a video shooting 12ga specialty ammo you know right at dusk when the sun is right. You may be able to get pyro 12 ga ammo at a gun show. Hell if i know what the purpose of the ammo is but some rounds shoot out fire and sparks it would be neat to see you or someone doing this at dusk.

[AWildGypsy]

ithaca 37 is the fastest pump

[loverg31]

maby, but mine is not slow :) lol

[spektek9]

Very fast, curious as to what loads he is shooting, and does he like the orange glasses?

[loverg31]

orange glasses??.. im useing 12g 2 3/4" #4 shot

[kohprush]

haha nice shooting but its a bit harder firing at that speed pointing directly upwards ; )

[wearethemangas]

Lmao Robscorobson86, Heed my helpfull tip. (NEVER PISS OFF A GUY WITH A SHOTGUN!) nice vid :P lmao!

[StantheGunman]

Nice shoting! Very smoth.

[loverg31]

The Winchester is awesome in cold weather. I take it camping in 'lean-2s'. Its never failed me once. It was really helpful to have when I walked up on a black bear in the woods 3 years ago. It was 30+m away, it jogged towards me. I did not have to shoot it, since I finally scared it off by yelling/walking towards it, after warning shots failed to do anything. I was not nervous from the point I spotted him and he took off since I was confident in the 7 slugs I had in the Winchester. :)

[robscorobson86]

ok thats interesting and all. but whats the point? props for the fast speed, but good luck hitting a target..

[ariskk88]

Thats the beauty of a shotgun, you just point it in the direction of the target and you launch so much lead one of the pieces are bound to hit it.

[gandb21]

He actually held pretty good control for such fast shooting.

[AJP1037]

hate to get shot with that!!! 0.0

[Army333]

I see....at first I didn't see the slow-mo with you're trigger finger...in the regular speed...it looks as if you just pulled it once.

Great Video!

How does the Defender react to the cold snow BTW?

[cletusbrewer]

hi there paul...how goes the huntin'? You catch any of them darn rac oons yet?

[loverg31]

Hi there, I pull the trigger each time. Holding the trigger down the hole time for the Winchester 1300 while firing multiple shots would not work.

[Army333]

That's what I thought...but by looking at you're finger on the regular speed....I can't see you're finger move (just the first time)...then I took a look at the slow-mo again...I feel stupid not :)

Nice video man...how does the 1300 react to the cold snow?

[Army333]

Dude...do you hold the trigger down and just pump it (kinda like bump-firing) or do you actually pull the trigger each time?