SFUO President and student arrested on student space - Feb. 2, 2010 [part 2/2]

[serbin16m]

derpppp calling a cop a fuckface herrpppp.......thinks his civil liberty is being infringed when he gets arrested

[tobinbryan]

i thought this was recent.

[JazmineJewitt]

When you call a cop "fuck-face" you can bet shit's gonna go down. Not to mention that it's also verbally assulting an office, which you can be charged for.

[TheRussianGlory]

Principle number 9 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms: Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned. Fuck the police!

[Reapent]

Well done popo, these arts kids are so irritating.

[MaddRezz]

fuck the ottawa police

[serbin16m]

Shoulda pepper sprayed him cause he goes to such a shitty school

[pcfxer]

Where's the CFS NOW BITCH!?>!>

[MrMengaTV]

love the sound lmao

[IrishLuck]

No wonder the cops were mad - they had to deal with the unfounded sense of entitlement exhibited by the SFUO. The SFUO was intentionally provoking the police verbally and attempting to intimidate them with cameras in their face. Have some respect for the people who risk their lives for you every day.

PS - following someone while filming them one foot away and constantly communicating with them fits the definition of criminal harassment.

[IrishLuck]

No wonder the cops were mad - they had to deal with the unfounded sense of entitlement exhibited by the SFUO. The SFUO was intentionally provoking the police verbally and attempting to intimidate them with cameras in their face. Have some respect for the people who risk their lives for you every day.

[CaptainCanada14]

a judge actually did vote in their favour, that they DID have the right to decide who could enter the office, so it was actually the police who were mis-informed

[huntclubjoe]

Typical gutless fucking coward pig. Doesn't have the brain or the balls to explain his actions, so he just arrests anyone who dares question his (illegal) actions. Oink oink, Constable Bacon. I guess he made sergeant by making his quota of illegal arrests...

[Polaris800CFI]

@huntclubjoe lol your a convicted pedophile of course you would say that about a cop

[huntclubjoe]

@Polaris800CFI I defy you to post that using your real name, you cowardly sack of shit. If I truly am a paedpphile, what do you have to worry about? It's only defamation if you're lying...

[Polaris800CFI]

@huntclubjoe you post your name first

[huntclubjoe]

@Polaris800CFI That's what I thought, goof.

[Polaris800CFI]

@huntclubjoe did you have a thought before you diddled that kid too

[huntclubjoe]

@Polaris800CFI Keep speaking lies about me, and you'll be lucky if the only thing you have to think about is a libel suit. Oh, and congrats on almost composing a coherent sentence. You were only two punctuation marks away...

[007Caffy]

No one gives a shit if shamus Wolfe goes to jail, I prefer he gets arrested then he goes and wastes my time getting me to vote. Oh no Ottawa policeis arresting Shamus : at least someone is getting that fool off the property.

[117buster]

haha dumbasses!!!! you guys don't know when to shut the fuck. plus cussing at an officer or any one is called verbal abuse you was he was arrested for verbal abuse.

[Kukussi]

Goood thing he got arrested, some people don't have a freacking clue when to shut up..... Little advice kids read and read and re-read the C.C and Trespass to Property Act... I've heard your little gang if I may call it that like to cause commotion at every little chance you have for reasons sometime that you are not even fully aware but hey thats you deal!

[Kukussi]

Goood thing he got arrested, some people don't have a freacking clue when to shut up..... Little advice kids read and read and re-read the C.C and Trespass to Property Act... I've heard your little gang if I may call it that like to cause commotion at every little chance you have for reasons sometime that you are not even fully aware but hey thats you deal! Just get really really informed of wtf your doing instead of actin like you know $#!T! .

[DenisRancourt]

This case went to trial and student Marc Kelly won: See the December 14, 2010, post at the UofOWatch blogspot blog.

[marc12marc]

you may not use force ! bla bla bla... good job officer ! book that loud-mouth !

[merlindahmer]

ya they are renting the office which means they don't own it therefore its university property which means marc kelly isn't allowed there plus the officer doesn't need a warrant to go in and arrest a person thats not allowed to be there good job Ottawa police

[Stormtube13]

The cops tells him not to swear or he will go to jail and then the loser calls him a fuck face......What employer would ever hire this guy with this video out there....This the the best person that the student body could find... The camera guy must be studying the sadam hussein course on creative media...under arrest for getting a lease....really..

[hotwired5578]

excellent policing!! that fag deserved it

[shiitsu]

@hotwired5578

Dear douche bag:

A couple of things: 1) using homophobic slurs does not make you more of a man my friend, please get out of the closet.

2) grow the fuck up.

No Love,

The Fags.

[janescharf]

no seat belt, and had to sit with cuffs behind back

[nsilva2004]

LOOOOOL the police owned them, haha fuck u SFUO

[alacatuzo1]

That arrest was awessssssssome. That Seamus guy deserved it.

[Radeo]

uOttawa = 95% Leftist Professors

[bubbamackdaddy69]

wonder how the trial is gonna go?....didn't know how the first arrest really went but the second seems a tad too much...Hope the judges dismisses his charge...?..He arrested him for swearing?...Freedom of speech?...no?... seems like a lame arrest to me

[Lavic79]

@bubbamackdaddy69 . Yes, you do have the freedom of speech, but using any abusive languages in public or directly to anyone can get you arrested. Now to be clear. The guy isnt spending the night in jail. He's just being ticketed and given a court date then sent home.

But bottom line. The law is very simple. Keep your ass in line, and you'll never have to deal with the Police ;)

If you need to bitch about the law, its not the OPS that makes it. Its the goverment.

[keldinrose]

Wow. Goes to show the quality of Ottawa U. The SFUO president gets arrested for telling the way it is; the best grounds that the cop can use is a 'disturbance of the peace' on account of THE COP being the biggest buffoon and moron this side of the river, and the best comments that I have read revolve around calling Mr. Wolfe a gay fish.

[a1rwui]

What did Seamus think he was going to accomplish by all of this? It's not the smartest thing to antagonize a police officer. It's not like the officer was being an ass, he was walking away whilst these two barked at him. He doesn't need to answer to them, students can be so self righteous.

[blackorblack]

YOU DO NOT NEED TO USE FORCE!!!!

[gr3gxp]

you're the fuckface...

[shitfacecockballs]

seamus... do you like fishsticks?

.

.

.

you fuckface!

[gr3gxp]

@shitfacecockballs

not u, Seamus...

who is a gay fish btw...

[shitfacecockballs]

fuck Wolfe!

[Cantaireachd]

El Presidente Seamus - what a complete fool.

[Cantaireachd]

El Presidente Seamus - IMO you are an complete idiot - call a cop "fuckface" - good one.

By the way why didn't you have the guts to debate Ezra Levant as you agreed to - little fish afraid of the big pond?

[JustaSilentWarrior]

fucking pile driver

[me148]

hahaha legal occupiers. I love it. what a bunch of idiots

[mariejoe2]

Go team Police!

this is all a big joke. get over yourselves!

[corneliusvanDB]

i don't see how anybody can support mr wolfe's actions. instead of taking a reasonable approach (perhaps getting the officer's name, badge number, and going to the station and discussing this with the officer's superior, maybe even going over the law with them) he decided to resort to cursing, personal attacks, and verbal abuse. in no situation is this going to help you with cops. he didn't say "i disagree with the legitimacy of your authority", he said "fuckface".

[iamboy1234]

Mark Kelly's arrest was completely justified. Wolfe's arrest was unjustified. The guy holding the camera should have been arrested just for being so irritating.

[themanhimself613]

the cop warned him and he didnt listen, good arrest. whent the cops tell you to shutup... you do it

[b0JABER]

@themanhimself613 he is just a cop not god :P

[keldinrose]

@themanhimself613

I wouldn't. Not when the cop is a meathead who is completely ignorant of the rules that he is supposed to uphold. Furthermore, when he's called on it, the best he can do is hide behind his badge

[europeanpie]

i have a feeling that pig was keeping his mouth shut to provoke seamus. i am not well versed in law matters, but to me the least the cop could have done was talked to seamus and the camera man and explained what had happened, after all while the sfuo may not be the owners of that property they legally use it and should have a right to know what's going on in their rented property.

cops are the aboslute worst.

[corneliusvanDB]

sorry, nice try but wrong. there are many more than just two sides to this. i do not accept your theory of a slave culture, where if you agree with the cops you're a happy slave and if you don't you're an unhappy slave. i look at each use of authority in a case-by-case basis and judge the situation accordingly. authority is a reality of human nature. it is necessary to maintain this social contract that glues our whole civilization together.

[markrobbins12]

slash Cornelius, so true. I am now your fan

[markrobbins12]

hear hear, Seamus Wolfe sucks!

[corneliusvanDB]

seamus wolfe is a fuckin idiot. you call a cop fuckface, you provoke him, he's going to arrest you hahaha what a fucking joke

[IHATEPROPOSITION8]

I love how you can get arrested for saying "fuck", a word that means "to have sex".

These officers are a bunch of losers and I am so glad that I have already decided that the entire police system in this country is fucked. And to "

zlafosse " I think you're an idiot for calling someone a socialist like it's offensive. Go read a book.

[markrobbins12]

The fact that his actions constitute a public disturbance is also legitimate if for no other reason than that they go far beyond what is accepted as the normal goings-on of society. Seamus and others like him make students look bad and discredit our other LEGITIMATE causes. Had he taken 10 minutes to examine the laws that he was boasting to know better than the police, he would realize his mistake, return to his office, and do the job that we the students pay him $30,000 a year to do.

[markrobbins12]

What a joke. The police have a legal right to enter any property if given permission. The SFUO rents that space from the U of O but is not the legal owner of it. Also the arrest is for trespassing, which he would've had to do in order to enter the office, and the police have the right to pursue a violator of the law no matter where he goes to evade arrest. As far as Seamus goes, swearing constitutes "fighting language" which under certain circumstances (this one included) is grounds for arrest.

[ATMleb]

why don't he just transfer to a different university complete and get on with his life. what a drama queen!!

[Thrombic]

@ATMleb I don't think he could. He has ruined his credibility entirely.

[dvkillz1]

fuck the police. i'm all for power to the people, but these mouthy little shit bags really shoulda got clubbed out or something. it's pretty sad trying to watch this little dweeb try and prove something to the cop, and then he runs away at the end. fuckin douche

[hypur]

Most of you with opinions are funny as shit - it's easy to confidently express them when you're behind a keyboard, yet none of you were there and as such don't know the full context of the situation.

Fucking hilarious!

Pigs are cunts, stop acting like they're not people just playing a well practiced role, they're still fucking douche bags who have one of the shittiest jobs in the world - this is an example of why.

[zlafosse]

@hypur Buddy why don't you go pick up your picket sign and go lobby for drop-fees and some socialism programs or something. Or perhaps study for your coveted Arts degree? You're just another self-entitled little shit, and not half as smart as you think you are.

[hypur]

You don't even know me, but nice try. You read one comment by me, and you've already created your little formula about who you THINK i am and put me into one of your little boxes. Nice try. Try Richard Ivey's School of business, Try that I currently run a small business on th side in addition to university that raked in 30,000 revenue and 10,000 in profit it's first year, try that i'm fucking smarter than you'll ever be, and that pisses you right the fuck off.

NT

Police are Pigs

[zlafosse]

Cry much?

[hypur]

PS: You know more about politics than I do, you spew the lingo like it's you're job. And self-entitled fits you perfectly, have you ever heard the saying: "it's all a mirror". Only someone as emotionally involved or as pretentious as you wold tell me who i am, what degree i'm taking, and what kind of psychology i've got running in my mind, ALL from ONE paragraph. Stop acting like such an emotional puss bag and takes your comments to a place where people are stupid enough to listen to you.

[referencebook101]

its funny how nobody cares seamus wolfe is not a bad guy but sfuo is fucked

[referencebook101]

iwned sheamus wolfe shut teh fuck up, teh sfuo is a good for nothing piece off shit, gets nothing done and steaks our money

[referencebook101]

owned bitches

[TheLardyGooser]

Did he get reimbursed for the coffee he had to leave on the ground?

[kateulous]

He was not under arrest for obtaining the lease, he was under arrest for calling the police officer a fuck face. Any fucking sensible person knows that.

I think the cops handled this badly, but considering the people they had to deal with, they did the best they could. I am a new age tree hugger (post below) but I realize that talking police officer like that, even before the swearing, puts you in the wrong.

This was just idiotic.

[balepsychobat]

Love watching all the tree hugging new age fuck ups get a dose of reality. They are so stupid. The property doesn't belong to them and the police don't need a SEARCH warrant because they weren't searching for anything. The entire university is private property and they have every right to decide who can and cannot attend and what sort of behaviour is acceptable. Hippie fuckups will never understand.

[Hasita1]

so if there was sombody in your rented apartment and your land lord dident like him the police have his permission to enter when ever they want dumbass take a law class i know i have

[mikailb87]

Wow, c'est n'est pas d'un appartement que nous parlons, mais bien d'une Université... L'Université se doit de protéger le droit de parole, le droit des étudiants ainsi que l'intégrité de ceux-ci. J'espère pour toi que tu ne connais pas toute l'histoire, sinon tu es vraiment ignorant.

[iamthegame04]

Nice. He's a douchebag anyway. Notice he wasn't so tough once the cuffs went on.

[mikeread88]

GodlessPeace you need to get your head checked and fuckyou68686 I hope you realize these 'pigs' guard you while you sleep, keep the streets safe and many have died protecting the general public from street scum. you disgust me with your comment

[GodlessPeace]

Welcome to Harper's police state YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS!

[corneliusvanDB]

this is not a police state. that's ridiculous, and offensive to anybody who has ever lived in a police state and fled to come here. we have rights. more than most people in the world. canada is not a police state. and cops have been dicks since before harper.

[GodlessPeace]

Notice no U of O reps were present!

[GodlessPeace]

The dumb cop didn't check the lease because they cant think for themselves! They are yes men and that's all!

[fuckyou68686]

I wouldn't call that causing a disturbance, but then again, these are pigs we're talkin' about so you know.

[kingsoldierface]

I lol'd IRL

[zlafosse]

Wow these kids know nothing about the law... their rights were not violated. They acted like such little shits. I love how the cameraman cries out that Seamus is being arrested;

NEWSFLASH: 99% of uOttawa doesn't care about the SFUO or Seamus Wolfe. We are here for degrees.

[grcgrc81]

@zlafosse Do you know ANYTHING about Marc Kelly's case, or about what actually happened here? If 99% of uOttawa doesn't care about their OWN STUDENT FEDERATION (which I find hard to believe, as it has a lot to do with their degrees) then 99% of my school are morons. I'm embarassed to go to the same school as people like you.

[lichenolog]

@zlafosse NEWSFUCKINGFLASH: Mr. Kelly has been cleared of all trespass charges.

[mikeread88]

love how seamus managed to lightly put down his coffee cup while the officer was using "force". A family member of mine is a police officer and that is a common move to place someone under arrest when resisting, it is way less painful than seamus led on. I will be so glad when he is out of the SFUO, waste of our fees on this guy. By the way Mr. Wolfe, it is the owner who has the right to let police onto the property not the leaser... have fun fighting pointless fights but no longer in our SFUO..

[ricersblowlikexbox]

lol i love when these mouthy little shits that think they know everything get whats comign to them.

[camcoop25]

@ricersblowlikexbox

Got what's coming to him? For what? Not bowing down to the will of some boneheaded cop? And the courts decided in his favour, not the cop. 

[mannequinrepublic]

i hear that dude made the canadian olympic diving team

[DenisRancourt]

The latest (February 9, 2010) post on the "Activist Teacher" blog is a socio-political analysis of the comments to this video.

[Danyal123]

this is like a perfectly choreographed joke.

[CanSofCom16]

The guy was trespassing on Ottawa U property. Doesn't matter who was leasing that shit, the property is still on U of O campus. And he was FORBIDDEN from being on the grounds, = arrest.

The SFUO president was acting like a total douche, and clearly didn't understand the simple concept of trespassing. Him and the camera man were just being typical anti-authority hippie douchebags.

I would have arrested his ass too if i were that cop.

[corneliusvanDB]

hear hear

[ai49]

He should never have been on property in the first place. There is no reason this meeting could not have been arranged elsewhere. Good job future lawyers of the SFUO.

As for Seamus; he was badgering the officer and was warned not to curse at him. It's a disruption of a public space. An agent of the university would be granted the power to arrest such an individual anyway. He got his warning and ignored it. Then he was asked twice to comply before the officer applied minimal force. Textbook.

[ai49]

To Summarize the Trespass to Property Act;

A police officer, may arrest without warrant any person he or she believes on reasonable and probable grounds to be on the premises in contravention of section 2.

2.  (1) Every person who is not acting under a right or authority conferred by law

(i) enters on premises when entry is prohibited under this Act, or

(ii) engages in an activity on premises when the activity is prohibited under this Act; or

is guilty.

[presidentjustin]

Can a follow up video be posted explaining what happened next?

[Bboy9]

jesus christ the camera man needs to shut the hell up

[hijonotaisetsu]

this is fucked...can i say that though, or will i get arrested for disturbing the peace of this virtual environment?

secretive cops withholding 'information' on why they can get away with breaking the law under their authoritarian guise.

cute.

wankers.

[DenisRancourt]

hello... hello...

as per 9999B9999:

(1) The relevant legal concept for the Trespass Act is "LEGAL OCCUPIER" not "owner". Your landlord cannot trespass your visiting friend from your rented apartment AND your friend has right of passage through the building lobby and into the elevator...! duh.

(2) Swearing to a cop is not a bona fide public disturbance. Swearing is not illegal. You can use swearing to communicate your disagreement and frustration and anger to a cop. This was a false arrest.

[corneliusvanDB]

"bona fide public disturbance"? bona fide is latin for good faith. what are you talking about ? bona fide public disturbance.

seamus wolfe was not "communicate his disagreement and frustration" to a cop. he called him FUCKFACE. what did he expect to happen? that's verbal abuse, harassment, etc. he's an idiot for provoking a police officer. when he said "fuck!" the cop just told him to watch his language. when he called him "fuckface" he stepped over the line. this should be abundantly clear

[DenisRancourt]

For background about the Marc Kelly academic freedom case at the University of Ottawa please consult the "UofOWatch" blog. Click on the "Marc Kelly" label for nine or more articles about the case, including the university actions against him.

[BLUEC0RE]

can someone give me a low down of what happen. Unbiased please...

[leviandrews]

I was a lot more sympathetic to what happened before I watched this video.

A lease does not constitute legal ownership of a property, it only says that they may use that space, but it remains the legal property of the University of Ottawa.

As there is a tresspass warrant issued against Marc Kelly, banning him from uOttawa property, he is not allowed on uOttawa property.

[TheFifthApes]

Arrested for swearing huh? This officer just wiped his ass with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

[Boomer3230]

actually your wrong, a police officer must read the person their rights as he or she is arresting them or after they have been subdued

[pawqmasta00]

From magic, from the air!

[bcatz454]

haha...epic dude. I really feel bad for Marc Kelly. All the time he's spent at uOttawa has been to waste, which is pretty much a couple years of his life. LAWSUIT! Not only are the cops dicks here but also the uOttawa security.

[mrcleanorleans16]

lol who didn't this guy arrest

[BebopBHunter]

That cop was hot blonde =P Hehe.

[monkmaster5]

as a policer officer he cannot be "disturbed" therefore he is illegally arresting this guy! lol jeeeeez talk about bad policing.. i hope the they fight this!

[9999B9999]

The police were wrong on both counts here.

The Trespass to Property Act gives the OCCUPIER (not owner) authority to declare someone a trespasser, and if the student union was leasing this space, the police illegally entered their premises to arrest Kelly.

And it is not a crime to swear in public in Canada. In R. v. Lohnes, the Supreme Court decided that an actual public disturbance that interfered with the space had to take place, and that cops cannot arrest someone just for cursing

[thunderlightning]

lol this made my year. especially the part where he simulated brute force by taking a dive. i bet wolfe would be an excellent soccer player (as opposed to student leader).

[acello]

Last time I checked, a lease isn't the same as ownership.

[marat85]

as a student of the UofO I am discussed by this. Like you can seriously get arrested for swearing? No one finds it interesting that the cop arrests a person without telling him his rights? Abuse of power? So in Ontario, you can get arrested and the cop doesn't have to inform you about your rights? Or they can do it like maybe an hour or half an hour later? Wow, I already had a pretty bad impression about this city's cops, this just confirms it.

[tocoolforwords]

I'm no expert but since he had a trespass to property ban on him, he broke the law as soon as he re-entered the building. He deserved to be arrested and I hope that he is punished to the full extent of the law. Also, even if they are the legal occupiers, they are not the owners and do not have the right to bar the police from the premises. I could be wrong but I don't think so. If I am, please let me know.

[auser4]

Showed how much students care about their student government. No one even stopped to watch the President being arrested. He is a bit extreme so I am sure its not the first time.

[BizonInCuba]

HAhahah the comments by the camera man are hilarious! Im sure he didnt help anything - and especially how nobody cared when he was screaming that Wolfe was under arrest!

[wsb242]

He doesn't need a warrant. I hope these aren't law students.