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  • i thought u christians thought man was made in the image of god???

  • @Wtown06tt to me, it isn't a literal thing... the way i see it, the "image" of god is that we are alive and able to contemplate our own existence. it's mighty arrogant to suggest that "god" looks exactly like a human being... human beings are nowhere near perfection and "god" is supposed to be a perfect being... so, suggesting that he/she/it looks exactly like us and IS exactly like us is cheapening the very concept OF a god.

  • Great guy god bless you

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  • Why God had to grow in mother womb for 9months,then who was running the show in his absence for the said period? when you already admit that GOD is controlling whole universe, it cannot be made and run by its own, So God has to be in action all time.

    If you want to know the real God, then be neutral and ask, O true if u are there please help me, I SWEAR to my GOD he will help you, just ask him, wouldnt take much of time would it? choice is urs either be confused or get confused from comments.

  • Why Jesus had to die for some1 else sin?If I commit sin would you DIE for my sin? Why are we still sentencing followers of Jesus these days when they murder, rape and etc when they already been forgiven for their sins in advance about 2000 years ago.

    After seeing this video sum1 believes there is no GOD, he needs help or God had to come in human shape for us to believe then why did he created so many signs around u. Is it not enough for us to believe that he is there already these signs for us.

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  • @mahmoud2202 Got to agree with MAHMOUD, people dont use their brains and read holy scriptures, they believe what they see and hear through media. Who has time in this machine life? But when go and ready holy books you will from your own eyes how big the difference what you read and what you see in media.

    PLZ YOU YOUR BRAINS AND ASK QUESTIONS URSELF AND SEEK ANSWERS

  • @lunadogwoof PART1* Many people call themselves Muslim, Jews, Christians, while they don't comply with God's instructions properly.

    * God is for every one, seeing other people misbehaving should not deter you believing in him, AS EVERY ONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS IN FRONT OF GOD IN THE HEREAFTER.

    * Those killer leaders you mentioned were & are acting indirectly satisfying the aim of the West (U.S.A , UK & OTHER), They are acting against their nations to guard the benefits of west.

  • @lunadogwoof Part 3 IMPROVE YOUR KNOWLEDGE 1ST BEFORE TALKING, Wake up from ignorance, brain washing & shallow thinking.

    BUT CONCENTRATE ON THE MAIN POINT IN LIFE, KNOWING & BELIEVING IN YOUR ALMIGHTY GOD ALLAH

  • I really love these comments! Thank the Spaghetti Monster that we are finally able to speak out against people who believe the Universe was created with them in mind, that they know who created the Universe, and also what this entity wants from them and everybody else.

    Could I have some more Parmesan cheese, please.

    Ah, and watch out for Mahmoud, he got me to grow my beard and now I keep getting the spaghetti tangled up in it. The Spaghetti Monster will be cross with me on rapture day!

  • vho are you to knov vhat god think?You whan*t see moni from me.GO AVEIII

  • @gorandjordjevic1974 WAKE UP FROM YOUR IGNORANCE & SLEEP.

    IMPROVE YOUR KNOWLEDGE, SCIENCE SO YOU CAN USE YOUR BRAIN EFFECTIVELY & THE TRUTH OF YOUR BEING!

    GLORY TO ALLAH THE LORD OF ME, YOU & EVERYTHING

  • @mahmoud2202

    @peckjo3

    Both your gods are different takes on the same one that have diverged over time.

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  • I am sick of people stealing my ideas. I hope I write my ideas and when some copy cat steals my ideas i have proof. Visit my website mayabell. com

    I said over 5 years ago that real science and religion are the same. And that some day we can see spirits of the dead with special cameras. I said there are alternate realities and the future can be changed.

  • It´s soon time 2 update the bible and other alternative books outthere ... AGAIN ...

    Very important 2 keep pace with the would around you , So u can sell that shit

  • There is only one Creator and He is JESUS... Praise the LORD !!

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  • @jerine007 Excuse me, but wasn't Jesus' dad the one who created everything, including Jesus, or am I confusing him with the wholesome ghost?

  • @lunadogwoof U r confusing & contradicting ur self!

    U just said "The one who created him"! So can a Creator need a Son? & how a created Jesus be a God or creator as many of believe?!

    How can be a dead /crossified God (Jesus pbh)?!

    Wake up people,USE YOUR BRAINS & REALIZE EVERY ONE'S GOD ALLAH, THE ONLY CREATOR.

    Glory & braise be to the Most Great ALLAH

  • Greetings from Finland and God bless you! , and Jesus is Lord

  • @peckjo3 HOW STUPID YOU ARE! BELIEVING IN YOUR DEAD GOD AS A CREATOR! DON;T YOU HAVE A TRACE OF MIND!

    WAKE BLOODY UP. YOU ARE OUT OF MINDS!

    JESUS IS A BLESSED HUMAN PROPHET, LIKE ALL OTHER PROPHETS, MY RESPECT TO HIM, ALL PROPHETS & GLORY BE TO OUR ONLY GOD ALLAH WHO CREATED EVERYTHING .ALLAH IS THE LORD OF EVERYTHING.

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  • Ponovo srednji vek.

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  • @gorandjordjevic1974 Ви сте потпуни незналица. U R A COMPLETE IGNORANT. انت غبي جداً

  • Shit

    

  • @lemicom23 : Shit to fill your filthy smelly MOUTH! OK?

  • I am so much in love with the CREATOR who created everything including Jesus. People please think about it, Jesus is not God(Creator), his rank is veryyyyyyyyyy high near to God but he is also a creation of God not Creator. This video went wrong at the end showing naked Jesus on Cross. R U saying that the Creator who is all mighty being, all-hearing, all-seeing, all-magnificent and every thing praises him whatever in between heavens and earth was killed by bunch of jews, God cannot be that weak.

  • @malika4u I totally agree with you, The film was OK until minute 39, when the speaker started getting hysterical & s*tting from his mouth! Considering innocent Jesus A dead God! WHAT AN ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY THAT IS!

  • @malika4u Bunch of Jews? Are you off your face? Jesus was a Jew. And the only thing we can agree on is that it is a bullshit story, because it was written by people who needed a scapegoat. Both Christians and Muslims are poisoned by the same cultural bullshit, namely that Jews should have converted to either one of your religions. For your information, the flipping Pope has apologised to the Jews.... maybe it is time for your imams and ayatollahs to grow? God's not weak: he doesn't exist!

  • IN MY OPINION we as human's lack the life span to understand life, even so we still wouldnt understand because we have a limit of understanding, we barely know 5% of the universe and that is even a stretch, what if god is in a different realm or dimension looking at us, maybe time doesn't exist there, mabey god is infinit, can infinity be created? god doesn't have a creator. material existence is to intricate to happen on its own.

  • And to think the creator of all this DIED for our sins....thats more then Love, its unexplainable

  • @sararudd92 Dead Creator? Not explainable, unbelievable! Dying for other people's sins? Is there any, ANY logic in that? You want to punish someone for committing a crime against you, but someone else says "It's okay, I will take his guilt!"

  • ghosts at the end? 47:55 - 48:00

  • I hate logic and reason. Damn it, I really want to chill in heaven and see my loved ones again.

  • @mookiebacon Bugger that! Let's just convert to Islam and get the 72 virgins!

  • @lunadogwoof p.s. You'll have to drop the "bacon", though.....

  • bible says earth is 6000yrs old. that it is flat and has 4corners. it doesnt mention anything about space, not that universe is expanding, pulsars, blackholes, supernovas ect ect . universe is more than earth is . this just proves humans wrote it thats why nothing about space is mentioned. its that simple. it doesnt mention so much about plants, water cycle, nothing . 

  • You need two things in order to stop believing in God: logic and the correct facts (information). This guy has a lot of facts. But he lacks logic. BIGTIME!

  • @toni8675 Oh,beslist.

  • Less than 10% of Christians have read the bible. That's all you need to know about Christians.

  • I cannot understand why we idle discussing religion. If we are honest—and scientists have to be—we must admit that religion is a jumble of false assertions, with no basis in reality. The very idea of God is a product of the human imagination. It is quite understandable why primitive people, who were so much more exposed to the overpowering forces of nature than we are today, should have personified these forces in fear and trembling...

  • Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced (Deut 27:22, Lev 20:17)

    But Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union (Gen 17:16, 20:11-12)

    God never changes (James 1:17, Mal 3:6, Ez 24:14, Num 23:19

    God is changeable (Gen 6:6, Jonah 3:10, 1 Sam 2:30-31, 2 Kings 20:1, 4-6, Ex 33:1, 3, 14, 17)

    There is only one God (Deut 6:4)

    There is a plurality of gods (Gen 1:26, 3:22, 18:1-3, 1 John 5:7)

  • God is happy with all he has created (Gen 1:31)

    God is unhappy with at least one of his creations (us), and he was grieved (Gen 6.6)

    You can see and hear God (Ex 24:9-11, 33:11 33:23, Gen 3:9-10, 32:30, Is 6:1)

    God is invisible and can’t be heard (John 1:18, 5:37, Ex 33:20, 1 Tim 6:16)

    God is never tired, never rests (Is 40:28)

    God gets tuckered out, needs a nap (Ex 31:17)

    God tempts men (Gen 22:1, 2 Sam 24:1, Jer 20:7, Matt 6:13)

    God tempts no man (James 1:13)

  • “The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say."

    - Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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  • Atheist... What is an Atheist?

    Who don't you believe in "I must warn you this is a loaded question"

    The GOD you don't believe in bless you.

  • @altennis * scripture: "in the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth"...."let there be light", science: "Universe's age-13,7 billion years, light first appeared approx. 13 billion years ago, Earth's age-5 billion"

    * scripture: "God is love", question: "Why did God create the plague that killed hundreds of millions of people, including innocent children?"

    * scripture: man was created by God,and all humans are descendants of Adam and Eve

    FAIL after FAIL after FAIL.

  • "The primary purpose of the Universe is to show off it's splendor..." To us, obviously, that's one of the main reasons God created us.... Gimme a break! Grow up. Get a life.

  • @lunadogwoof Sure it shows us the Greatness, Mastery/Artistry & infinite power of ALLAH our Best Creator. Universe was built as a testing ground for us, live & benefit from its all available facilities, behave the die.

    Then to be recreated, so to get our deeds' results. I wish to get rewarded in that real eternal life.

    Glory be to ALLAH GOD OF EVERYTHING

  • @mahmoud2202 man, wake up! There's no yahweh, no allah, no deity! The truths of this world are simple and sometimes painful. We are the product of pure chance and evolution. Religions are fairytales that divide the world. Science provides logical answers and unites all people. We are not born religious, we are MADE religious. There should be no muslims, jews, christians etc, only HUMANS. Embrace science and logic, and no Allah is going to do you any harm, because he does not exist.

  • @toni8675 Infinite determinism would seem a tad like pure chance, wouldn't it?

  • @mahmoud2202 I really see only reluctance to accept that we live and die, and looking at the universe and its history, it is clear that the universe was not created with us in mind. If the universe was recreated exactly in the same way, we would probably never come into being or we would have gone extinct like 99 plus percent of all the species that ever lived. Testing ground? Would Allah need a testing ground. She would surely not need to test her own creation, being totally wise and all that?

  • @lunadogwoof 1st we have to agree the main point that a Powerful GOD created us.As every item small/big is leading us to a Great creator.

    Any sound minded person with some scientific knowledge will realize the CREATOR.

    As before believing in our Creator, IT WILL BE POINTLESS TO DISCUSS YOUR OTHER RAISED POINTS!

    I have good factual answers to your other raised points, BUT after satisfying my 1st point.

  • @mahmoud2202 Sorry Mahmoud, honestly sorry. I am not willing to presuppose the existence of Allah, Krishna, Zeus, Father Christmas, Djins or the Easter-Bunny. Any sound minded person with scientific knowledge will realise that any claim made without proof can be dismissed without proof.

    And you are so right: It is pointless to discuss anything if you have to start from a truth that can not be demonstrated, merely superstition based on old myths.

    Thank you for still be willing to talk to us.

  • @lunadogwoof Well, I considered my 1st as a truth because every item in this Systematic Universe proves it!

    As many people out there eyes but can't see, ears but can't hear, Even they are surrounded & swimming in indefinite proofs leading & indicating our CREATOR.

    That was why I said "Any sound minded person with some scientific knowledge will realize the CREATOR"!

    As you need proof,don't go far, Think of yourself,Organs,senses, abilities & other came to existence from nothing! Think of this

  • This is one of those Let's Promote God thingies. Guy on coke blabbering about the bible like it's the gospel. Waste of Space!

  • If god is so almighty and powerful.. can he create a rock so heavy that he cannot himself lift?

    B1tch please ! You are candidate for chlorpromazine !

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  • WHOM DO YOU MEAN BY "WE" ? THE PEOPLE! SURE NOT. It is the ALMIGHTY ALLAH Jalla Jalaloho.

  • It is We Who have built the universe with (Our creative) power, and, verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it.

    Al-Quran (Surat adh-Dhariyat: 47)

  • Atheists hold their line because they are trained to perceive along the confines of a mere scientific law. Just wait until people perfect vector array analysis of galactic super clusters. They only believe what they see.

  • @Ciuperciuc Atheists say that they only believe in what they see! BUT at the same times they believe they have brains, believe in electricity, X rays , magnetism, ... while the can't see them, only noticing the effect of them! BUT WHEN IT COME TO GOD, They want to see him with limited senses! HOW BLIND THEY R!

    Everything around us indicating our God the Almighty Creator, who is beyond our limited abilities to be seen, while he is everywhere, aware of what we think & aware of every sub atom exist

  • @mahmoud2202 First of all you are not an Atheist and I am, so how can you as a theist tell me as an atheist what "I" say? As an atheist I DO NOT SAY "I only believe what I see". This shows that you are initially misguided as to the mind of an atheist. Let me enlighten you. As an atheist I believe there is as much probability that god exists as there is with fairies or Thor etc. I simply say that god's existence is highly improbable. It is arrogance to say God exists with certainty.

  • @Avidcomp Absolutely! And it is even more arrogant to believe that you, as "believer" KNOW the mind of god.... Just let that sink in: BELIEVE / KNOW THE MIND OF GOD. And now take it a step further: To believe you know the mind of god, and to know what other people should believe, respect, follow, to know how others should treat their wives, how their women should dress according to what god likes (ha!), whether, when and how people should have sex and with whom.......

  • @lunadogwoof Can't believe how people be arrogant like you, so to believe that they know better than there Creator in what is good or bad for them!

    Of course our Creator knows the best for us, send his guidance by his messengers to lead us to the right path so to attain happy life & his satisfaction.

    God gave us will to choose either ways. to follow or not. BUT WE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR CHOICE. AND accept the result of hell or paradise in the hereafter.

  • @mahmoud2202 You see, the point is not whether or not I believe myself better than your creator, although it should be obvious even and especially to you how religion makes it impossible for people to find common ground. The Jewish/Islamic problem is a good example of this. Arrogance, in my view, is when someone says he knows god and that on this basis he can tell people how to think and behave. You were courteous so far, but now you think my place is in hell? I'm done with you.

  • @lunadogwoof 1- There is no conflict between religion & science.

    2- Almighty Creator urges us to look at, investigate every item around us, starting with ourselves, AS EVERY ITEM micro or galaxy size is leading you to the Creator.

    3- God existence is clear than the Sun at noon! Even the Sun indicating him to you.

    4- I ask every one to increase knowledge in science, as that will let you realize your Creator.

    MY AIM IS TO HELP YOU REALIZING HIM. I AM NOT HERE TO SHOW! I AM PROUD OF BEING A MUSLIM

  • @mahmoud2202 Ok. You are proud of being a muslim? Then speak out against extremist muslims. Speak out against people who will not allow their women to go to school, arranged marriage, genital mutilation, suicide bombers, and imams who teach their followers how to beat their wives without leaving scars, who want to kill cartoonists and writers in non-muslim countries... who want sharia for all muslims, no matter where they live in the world. Then I myself would be proud of you as a muslim.

  • @lunadogwoof Thanks. I ended up having to block mahmoud because he refused to answer the simply question when asked: "who knows better what I believe, me or you?"

    He just monologued endlessly to the point where I realised I'd have a more coherent conversation with my cats...so I did.

  • @Avidcomp It wonders me how those people, who believe in science & understand nature, can't reach the most simple fact of realizing that God is behind all this marvelous creation!

    Even having perfect eyes they insist to keep blind to e fact of creation!

    People, no need to go far, start thinking of yourselves 1st, existed from nothing your own bodies with their complex & perfect systems, organs, features, senses & abilities!

    Wake up from your arrogance, use your brains & senses to realize !

  • @mahmoud2202 mahmoud, let me ask you something. You believe in a creator because the complexities in this world seem too... complex to arise purely by chance, right? Therefore, there should be a creator for all these complex things, it's logical, right? So far so good. But the CREATOR must be even more complex, if he created all this. Thus a new question arises.... WHO created the CREATOR? Because something as complex as the creator must have been made by something even more complex

  • @toni8675 and if you say that the CREATOR doesn't need a creator of his own, then you're basically saying that all this mechanism is flawed, and complex things (including human beings) don't necessarily need a creator. Gotcha! :)))

  • @toni8675 You reached a good point here realizing all these Universe items could only be created by a CREATOR.

    But after that you confused yourself, asking who created the creator?!

    you Q is Not logical! Because the creator could not be created, as if so he would not be creator.

    Our Creator was the 1st,he created this universe with time, God is the source of life & creation, has infinite power & knowldge

    Research on he meaning of God & Creator, so to realize our God & grasp the meaning of God.

  • @mahmoud2202 you didn't understand anything I said... no point going on arguing

  • @toni8675 Ha! Reminds me of this story Richard Dawkins once told about this woman who still believed in this cult of the turtle carrying the world on his back standing on another turtle who is standing on another turtle.... When Dawkins asked the woman "But what is the turtle on the bottom standing on?", she said, "You don't understand. It's turtles all the way down!"

  • @Avidcomp Follow up: HOW BLIND, DEAF & OF DISABLED MIND YOU CAN BE! NOT TO RECOGNIZE OUR CREATOR!

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  • @Avidcomp Yep, I just received a message saying that if I don't choose the way of god, I will end up in hell. Speaking of arrogance. I somehow hope that Zeus en Krishna will get together when he passes away and kick his ass, before sending him back as the reincarnation of and atheist on the day of the rapture! Greetings to your cats. My dog says woof!

  • @lunadogwoof LOL. What I don't get is if people such as you and I are already going to hell, why do our condemners feel the need to continue to insult us? It's almost as though they feel some extra punishment should be dished out because they have some doubts about our journey to hell and don't want to leave it in their gods hands. Their anger reveals their own doubts about their delusions..why else would they behave that way?

  • @Avidcomp Yep, they should be happy to know that we are going to burn for all eternity. But maybe they are not totally sure, otherwise they would leave it at that. And they should be happy in the knowledge they're going to get to see their Aunty Evelyn again in heaven, or 72 virgins, whichever you choose. It is when people are not sure that they become over zealous. Seeya in Nirvana!

  • @Avidcomp It is your bloody sake!

    1- It a duty I fullfil to invite you to every one's only Almighty God.

    2- It is up to you to believe or not! But my advice is to try to use your brain as req.

    3- You are not asked to any material for believing in God! The matter is between you & him.

    4- God gave you the brain & will, so you will will be responsible for your choice.

    5- I am trying my best to help you, but it is up to you.

  • @mahmoud2202

    1. You invited me and I decline your invite

    2. Because of No.4, and I use MY brain & My will to choose Atheism

    3. If it's between him & me..stay out of it

    4. If I'm wrong, I will let god decide and ONLY god... I do not recognise your involvement in MY choices. If I am to recognise the existence of god I will get there of my own free will by myself and in no other way.

    5. Your help is not required. In fact your kind of help has a negative affect on me.

    Go away please

  • @Avidcomp * Many people don't appreciate the kindness of others towards them!

    * God is NOT in need or benefit even if all people believed in him. AND HE WILL NOT BE HARMED IF ALL DON'T BELIEVE IN HIM.

    * We r in need of him , NOT HE.

    * Many people have eyes, ears & brains,BUT can't see, hear & think properly, EVEN THE SIGNS/FACTS OF GOD R MUCH BRIGHTER THAN THAN THE SUN AT NOON!

    * I don't ask your complement, it is up to u to see the facts & realize your Creator.

    every one responsible 4 his ac.

  • @Avidcomp Did you see what "the crazy one" just wrote (below beginning It is your bloody sake).....

  • @Avidcomp This is natural action to happen, specially when facing people with eyes can't see, ears can't hear & brains seems disabled in seeing the bright clear facts of the Almighty CREATOR!

    So, stop blaming me, AND SEARCH THE REASONS URGED ME TO WRITE THAT!

    Wake up man!

  • @mahmoud2202 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz­zzz

  • @Avidcomp You demonstrated how empty & shallow minded people answer!

  • God had Created this Universe with the time ( and us of course on later stage), and put all the natural laws to all items within it, so to function systematically & properly the way we see it now.

    Almighty God is not bound for those natural he put his created Universe. God is beyond that. You seem not able to grasp the meaning of God word.

    Of course God is everywhere & aware of every sub atom in Universe & knows what you think at this minute & how you will react to my these words. Read more

  • Universe and god is same thing. There is no such thing as god created universe. Universe is infinite it can't be created or deystroid. It just exist. Bible says god created us. Well thats true. There was information of how earth should look and what it is in universe. And by that information our earth was created and so we. And Universe isn't just a vacuum, if it would be so there won't be anything physical in this existence.

  • ppl turn water into wine everyday it is called brwing. a miracle is sumat that cant be duplicated in any way. like killing a fig tree

  • BIBLE SAYS isreal will become green , big deal i can say that about any country , and eventually it will come true. killing a fig tree i can do that. making water into wine i can do that. making a kid without sex ppl can do that miracles lame more like

  • @mrlogicalman1 Your screenname is Mr Logical Man1. You claim you can turn water into wine? Can you please upload a video of you doing so. I'm highly intrigued by your claims. Please do them.

  • BIBLE SAYS EARTH HAS FOUR CORNERS. IT DOESNT SAY THE EARTH IS EGG SHAPED, SINCE IT DINT HAVE A WORD FOR SPHERE. IT SAYS JESUS SAW ALL EARTH WHEN TAKEN HIGH  EARTH CANT BE SEEN UNLESS ITS FLAT

  • halleluYAHWEH LET BE BLESSED GOD FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT!

  • bible does not say the universe is expanding , it doesnt mention blackholes, pulsars, supernova clouds, ect ect

  • @mrlogicalman1 The bible says "stretches out the heavens like a curtain." In Isaiah and Psalms mentioned in . Also says in Job "Have you entered into the treasures of the snow?" Which everyone knows how unique a snowflake is. True, it may not be direct. Also as to the four courners that is symbolic.Isaiah 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth.." which also mentions the stretching of the heavens in this same verse. Th Hebrew language didn't have a word for sphere yet,only circle.

  • @mrlogicalman1 But I can understand, how some of this information can be misleading or hard to understand or even symbolic. Regardless, there is still information in the Bible that is overlooked. Such as the prediction of Jews to Isreal and Isreal becoming green and full of life. Somethings are hard to understand, and arguing about a existence as you and I know, never leads anywhere. Cannot be proven or disproven, but then again anything is hard ot prove because it can be doubted.

  • count the ages of the prophets all the way back to adam. and jesus was taken high up UNTIL he saw ALL the earth. you cant see all earth high up unless it is flat. bible also says earth has 4 corners. says light was created 1st day. and the sun which gives light created 3rd or 4th day

  • Science ends at 5:38

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    So true!!

  • I just can't see it that: Unnumbered random bouncing atoms and DNA of chance could create such a universe.

  • @MrKalyn7654 Outstanding! I completely agree with you. As every sound minded person will agree.

    Should be a great mind & power behind this systematic Universe & its contents including ourselves! And is our ALMIGHTY GOD ALLAH THE ONLY CREATOR.

    Glory be to him. سبحان الله

  • @MrKalyn7654

    Ok, lets start this. What the hell do you mean by "such a universe"? I mean, you can say "thats such a great car" because its better than other cars. But what are you comparing the universe to? How can you think the universe is designed by someone?

    Don't you think that if the randomness of the bouncing atoms have created something different and you lived in this completely different place, you would look up and say "Yeah, this is the way its supposed to be, someone created it."?

  • @dsandi100 You are another blind , and disabled brained person to think that this beautiful systematic Universe had come randomly without a designing Creator!

    Don't go far, think of yourself came to existence from nothing, and at the moment have power to argue about the Almighty Creator ALLAH, who created everything in the perfect shape, functioning according to the plan/system set for it by its Creator.

    How blind you are! Improve your science so to find & realize you God.

  • @mahmoud2202

    At least i provided some examples in my comment, yours is basically just "ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH". You cant say something is true just cause you want to believe it. Your "faith" isnt a good enough evidence. If you would be so nice to provide an proof we can start a serious talk.

    And dont you even think about not replaying. Dont be a runaway bitch.

  • @dsandi100 On the assumption that you have some scientific knowledge, look around you there are infinite examples to lead you & indicate to there Almighty Creator. 1st thing study yourself, your vision, hearing, talking, smelling , breathing, heart beating, ... many others! All that came from father's sperm united /mum egg, X divided, then here you arguing your creator!

    Think deeply of that.

    my aim is to get you to right thinking & rescuing u from the Ocean of ignorance you r swimming in.

  • @dsandi100 I am not going to argue about this. I have done this too many times. You cannot have a empty box and have things appear out of nowhere. A big bang couldn't be eternal because infinite compression would loose and gravity would win. Steven Hawking sees flaws in the Big bang theory, that is why he creates his own because a big bang requires something to cause it. Something had to be eternal, which never had a beginning, and everything in science there is a point that cannot come.

  • @MrKalyn7654

    No, you cant say there was anything before big bang, or that big bang took place somewhere. It was the beggining of space and time. Our minds cant possibly imagine something other than spacetime that we live in. So yeah, we start making assumptions like you did, or even better, think that a ghost with infinite powers thats similar to a human created it. No, its simply stupid to belive it.

    What flaws did Stephen see in the theory of big bang? Please explain.

  • @dsandi100 Thank you for pointing that out.

  • @dsandi100 As for your question, about "Such a universe" I am not comparing it. I am simply taking a outcome from complete randomness and comparing that to what are Universe is and I see it is highly unlikely.

  • @MrKalyn7654 What I meant to as not comparing it, I am not comparing it with another universe but to random outcome.

  • @MrKalyn7654

    Take a look at The Game Of Life. The Jhon Conway one. Its basicly a set of (a very few) rules under which you delete or create some cells in a grid. Yeah, sound weird, just look at some video. Anyway, this few randomly placed cells under this few rules can create beautiful objects and life like movement, very emergent, you wouldn't expect.

    Complex and amazing shapes. And there are countless atoms in the universe, and lots of rules of physics. Is that enogh for you?

  • @dsandi100 Most scientists agree, that the universe has a universal code that even the slightest change in anything, we wouldn't be here. Scientists argue reasons that this still doesn't point to a God, but that is ridiculous. Something so fragile like that randomness wouldn't be able to uphold. The flaws? First of all, look at the big bang. You could say it "just happened" but science is to explore, not just accept things because you don't understand it. Something must be eternal.

  • @MrKalyn7654

    Thanks for replaying, I enjoy this conversation, very much so, but im afraid it cant continue like this. The 500 character limit isnt enough for all i want to say and how i want to say it. We have to find a different way of arguing, if you want to continue. I suppose email? What do you say?

  • @dsandi100 Sure, you can email me @ kalynflieger7654@yahoo.com. I greatly respect your maturity as some people will be very rude because they get upset instead of seeing their oppositions with another as perfectly normal arguments.

  • @MrKalyn7654 Something must be eternal? Is that a scientific claim or a religious claim? Just because we acknowledge we don't know everything doesn't mean we have to believe in the easter bunny, does it?

  • @dsandi100 I should correct myself, there isn't flaws in the Big Bang itself and how it happened, there is flaws in saying "It just happened" as to speculation of origin of laws which scientists question such as Hawking when he was confronted. Just "accepting things" as seen in the past, is irrational, this is what ancient cultures did and scientists see as unfit. The Big Bang couldn't just happen either. Every inflating universal model has to have a boundary. To surpass time.

  • @dsandi100 But that is argued by theologians. I don't want to explain all of this. The History channel has a video called "The Universe: God and the Universe." Google it, is just showing arguments to the opposition. It never comes to a conclusion whether a God exists or not, because if a scientist was to say "A God doesn't exist" that removes their scientific exploration and scientists don't do that, they leave them on the table until disproved.

  • bible says earth is 6000yrs old, that it has 4corners and if you go high like jesus you will see ALL earth , meaning flat. bible is a lying bastard, that sucks cock. especially that paul

  • @mrlogicalman1 Hello there Logical Man? 1/ Nowhere!! does the bible say that the Earth is 6,000 years old! 2/ Nowhere!! does the Bible say that the Earth is flat. If you so wish, we can continue the conversation.

  • but i do know that even without a science degree, we need proper evidence to suffice a claim. which in this case is the existance of a personal god or a deistic god

  • ...continued part 2//...

    Each time science proves religion wrong, evidentially, objective, reproducible, objective, rational argument win through... U noted the goal posts. Start quoting unproven, subjective, contradictory, 'words of god' as your proof. Religion laughed believing earth was the centre of the universe, everything else revolved literally around us. Then science proved we sent round the sun, later the sun & billions of 'suns' revolving around super giant blackholes. Oh, go pray!!!

  • The utter crap all religious spout is funny. If universe came from big bang... what caused it? God, Jesus, Allah, etc. I just ask who created "the creator"? The argument you use stands against itself. We use, sound, rational, NON-subjective, reproducible, scientific method, EVIDENCE! Proof! FACT! We have used this same scientific method to take us back to within fractions of a second if the 'big bang' (although expansion is much more correct)... /continues

  • Pantheism & Deism makes more sense than Christianity & Islam. Pantheism & Deism is geared towards reality compared to revealed religions. Personal Gods ruling over the universe is a remake of many other Gods of the past when man's understanding of the universe was minimal at best. Just read the bible & koran and you will see that the claims given of how the universe came to be doesn't align with scientific theories. Pantheism & Deism is based on nature that we can see & measure. Not magic.

  • @creamone You seem have no clue of what science says! Big Bang thery confirmed the universe was created from nothing, and that a CREATOR SHOULD CREATED IT WITH TIME. God keeps it maintained in order. So it is you brain which needs aligning , so to make it think properly. It is disabled at the moment. read & improve you science.

  • @mahmoud2202 You need to improve your english because I don't understand your position. I've stated minds. Once again my overall point was that a personal God makes no scientific sense and that Deism & Pantheism are based on the philolosphy that the concept God is nature. We can see and study nature. Come again without the personal attacks.

  • @creamone you said" Deism & Pantheism are based on the philolosphy that the concept God is nature"! But God existence is based on facts NOT on theories or philosophy!

    Nature is a created thing, it has no will, no power by itself, and has no brain! So to believe nature is your Creator is a complete stupidity, you should believe in the one who created that nature & you from nothing!

    My English is perfect, But you either don't like to understand OR have no enough knowledge to understand! read&read

  • @mahmoud2202 A personal God can't exist because it breaks the laws of physics unless he's an alien. For your info theories such as evolution & big bang are facts. Definition of theory: In layman's terms a "theory" is just a hunch or guess. In scientific terms that is called a hypothesis. A theory in scientific terms is a well-substantiated explanation based on lines of evidence that enable valid predictions and have been tested through various means. God/Creator is nature.

  • @creamone People have to be careful not to think too much of themselves and what they think they know. Scientists don't fully understand physics or gravity or the big bang. The amount of knowledge they have about our existence, they admit, is infinitely small in comparison with what there is still to learn about the big questions still left unanswered. Case and point, the video "'The greatest unsolved mysteries of the universe': Dr Paul Francis at ANU, March 2010" He's very objective

  • @bassmunk You're correct scientist don't know everything neither does theologians. Scientific work can never be stagnant like religious philosophy. Science is constantly updating it's knowledge of the world around us. Science learns from it's mistakes with no ego unlike religion and there concept of God. The bible is not proof of some God that performs magic tricks and acts like a brutal dictator. The bible is based on mythology from the time it came from. This lacks logic & reason.

  • @creamone Again claims that you're making about God are ones that you, nor any other human, can make. Why isn't the bible based on logic and reason? Have you studied the bible and its meaning in depth? And just like science, there have been many adjustments to our understanding of the bible and what it teaches us about God and his purposes. And how does God having a personality go against the laws of physics? How can anyone prove that he doesn't?

  • @bassmunk Stop making comparisons between Science & Religion, there is no comparison. Science is based on facts & religion is based on faith. I've read the bible in depth and my logic & reason tells me it's based on myths of older traditions before the bible. This is a fact. I can list hundreds of facts but this forum doesn't allow for that. 1 example is Bacchus or Mises which parallels the life of Moses. The Gilgamesh stories that parallels Noahs Ark I can go on & on.

  • @creamone Science overlooks many things and accept them as fact. Such as the Big Bang, many see as a fact. How is that a fact? Did we see the Big bang happen? No. Just a theory that they see as rational. It takes faith to believe in the Big Bang. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.-NKJV."Heb 11:1 That is faith, right from the bible. That would make the Big bang theory based on faith. "Evidence of things unseen." Evidence=expansion, Unseen=Big bang.

  • @MrKalyn7654: U seem have no clue of what Big Bang is!

    Study it carefully & you will see the fact of it, As Universe is expanding, Then going back in time will show & sure you that everything was in one unit.

    This unit was created by Almighty ALLAH, Who controlled it to form our Universe.

    To believe in something u don't have to see it, OTHERWISE YOU HAVE NO BRAIN, Because u don't see it! U believe ur brain because u see the effect of it.

    We believe electric current by seeing it effect, NOT IT.

  • @mahmoud2202 Do you just like to argue? What your saying is supporting what I said. I know EXACTLY what the Big Bang is, and the theories that have come about to make it possible without a God such as string theory(which will eventually lead to the same question) and Hawking theory that there is no beginning thus not needing a God. Also, I don't believe in allah, I believe in the bible and it refers to Jesus and GOD, not allah. It just refers to "God". If there was allah the bible would say so.

  • @MrKalyn7654 do you have a PHD in Astro Physics because it sounds like you're trying to debunk the years of hard work by many brilliant men who have studied, calculated and tested the Big Bang Theory. The Big Bang Theory is the expansion of the universe starting from a singularity as small as an atom.

  • @creamone It's no use Creamone. I have reasons to suspect that Mr Kalyn is in fact a code name for Mrs Palin!

  • @MrKalyn7654 Read my earlier posts of the scientific definition for theory. I'll say it again Theory means structered or thought out ideas tested numerous times by various means that lead to facts. Real science doesn't rely on faith it relys on facts. I was taught if I don't know something either be quiet or ask a question, never assume.

  • @creamone It still doesn't make it a fact regardless. Also, I BELIEVE in a BIG BANG reaction likeness. I just don't think it happened all by itself from some magical randomness from a single point that popped into existence. Whether or not tested numerous times there is never a 100% certainty so it can be disregarded as a fact in the future or change. Yes fact usually originates from experimental properties, but doesn't mean it is true. Fact makes a true statement true.

  • @MrKalyn7654 Magical randomness is hard to believe for yourself, but you believe in a magical Jewish man who created the universe? O.k. sounds logically to me.

  • @creamone Ok I'm not going to get into all these parallel stories of peoples lives, cuz like you said, we don't have the space for it. But religion is based on facts, that's what faith is, trust in facts Hebrews 11:1. We all have faith in the things we believe. And it takes no more faith to believe in a creator and the bible then it does to believe in our understanding of the universe or evolution.