I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and it is an oath I WILL keep. I will gladly give my life to ensure that not a single American EVER has to live under a commie dictatorship. That is what EVERY commie "government" is,a dictatorship, ruled by a few powerful heads. While the rest have no rights, and no say in anything. If you do speak up you get "disappeared".
@ImperatorDominus Actually capitalism suppresses freedom of speech. Communism does not have to be a dictatorship or even a democracy. We can all live in anarchy, in peace.
(The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America."
(The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit) The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people."
next point: y do you say, communism doesn't offer entertainment? do you think they haven't got a cinema on cuba? or anything like that? ok, many people can't afford, let's say, theatre tickts; but y? no economy - y? there's the cuban sugarcane -> rum; many other products. but they can't do any export. so in fact all this systems don't work 'cause "first world" wants to suppress them. and then they can say "look, it doesn't work. that's reality!
"Homeless d... ...ain I am right." OK, of course homeless do not work - if thei would they probably wouldn't be homeless! but you can't say it's their choice!! i want a system where everyone's got the same chances. and a homeless of is homeless because he (or his parents) couldn't/cant afford any better kind of education. but to say "every umemployed/homeless doesn't want to work" is nonsens. and y is there no variety in, let's say, cuba? 'cause the capitalists don't want to trade with 'em!
..ones; they only call themselves so, because they think it sounds good or i dont know! I AM A REAL DISPUTANT OF NORTH COREA, E.G.
as already mentioned: i'd also not call this states c/s'istic - i mean, that are dictatorships and a dictatiorship is an absolute contrary to a c/sistic system - "everyone's equal". as i said before: there are many states which seem 2 be (or want to seem) communist ones; BUT THEY AREN'T REALLY!
a little detail: cubas economy would work much better without the embargo
@bibanager333 Ace do you want to KNOW what is KILLING our freedom?.
LOOK at your writing COREA? Korea is speeled with a K NOT a C.
IGNORANCE is killing our freedom the rich wanted the Civil rights bill for good reason.
Bring the masses and workers down to one level, they unleashed Negroes into the School system
I'm a DROPOUT! a 9th GRADE dropout. Yet I have more education than graduates of today with a HS diploma. Negroes RUINED our Schools only the very rich are getting an Education
If your STUPID they can do what their doing today STEALING YOUR MONEY they KEEP TELLING you their going to RAISE TAXES!.
Want to know a FACT? EVERYTIME you get a Raise or any other worker the taxes ARE RAISED then and THERE cost of living you get 5% or more the goverment gets MORE taxes so tax raises aren ot only illegal they are already GETTING MORE. But that isn't ENOUGH for these CROOKS,They WILL STEAL MORE AND MORE
in short, you want back apartheid? ("negroes ruined our schools.." - wtf" - i don't like reviling people but if you really meant this - FUCKIN RACIST!! i can only see that you haven't got any "education" - do u know what apartheid and all these things have done to so many countries but also eg the US?
ps. if you had read also my other postings, you'd know me 2 be from austria.. so i think you could forgive "C" orea, but you know which country i meant....
and i didn't talk about money, actually. but in ddr (or also maybo on cuba), e.g. a flat didn't cost much (or even nothing, you got it from the state). i know of course this weren't suits, but everyone could afford at last a home with kitchen, bad, bathroom and living room - shortly: a home!
IMPORTANT: i really don't want to say that china, north korea or any other of the states like this (also the regime of pol pot, e.g.) is or was good at anytime. but this states aren't communist/socialist...
@bibanager333 If I eat potatoes every day and drink water all week, then it will not cost me anything either. I WANT CHOICE AND VARIETY AND ENTERTAINMENT, COMMUNISM DOES NOT OFFER ME THIS.
okay; now also something about the (capitalist) crisis: do you remember 1926 (ok you're not that old, nor am i); but do you know what happened?: the states "rescued" the banks; half a year (or maybe a year) after, the crisis appeared again. the consequence was, that even the state didn't have any money left, and many jobs got lost; --> unemployment --> people are unsatisfied. AND THIS WAS ALSO THE REASON Y HITLER GAINED THAT MUCH POWER IN GERMANY, i only want to mention!!
... continuation .. he can't act wonders but he does great.
I know communism not to be a good form of governement, but remember churchill...("Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.") what i want to mention here, before anyone believes to have a great argument against this comment: COMMUNISM/SOCIALISM IS NOT THE CONTRARY OF DEMOCRACY!!
I also know that there were many communist systems that didn't work perfectly, and ...
People all over the world move to the USA. If it is such a bad country why do so many people move there? Why can't communist accept that people want freedom and liberty, they want to make their own choices not have them made for them. I am from the UK and fear that due to high taxes I will have to move to the USA to find make money.
@warriorprince1010 to answer your question well honestly because usa screwed them over in the past mainly in cold war. one piece of evidence i put is the ten years of spring in guatemala if usa had not intervene this country probably wouldnt be the shit hole it is today. also capitalist propaganda(americanisation).also technically usa is/has not been capitalist.it is fascist.it did have socialism when it said it was capitalist(cold war). it hasnt been capitalist since atleast native genocides
@cooks1234 Capitalist propaganda does not exist. Capitalism is a right to won your own property and business. It has no arguments or opinions it is merely a r ight.
@warriorprince1010 uh actually its an idea which is usually seen as an economic one. but lets face it even if its meant to affect economy of a society it also has an affect on the political,social,and mentality of a society aswell.also what i mean about capitalist propaganda is the medias(which is controled by the rich self proclaimed capitalist) influence on peoples views(even though most of it is and has been lies)and the portrayal of history(mainly cold war).
@warriorprince1010 also as far as freedom and liberty.well first of you cant have both since freedom means one can do what they want while liberty means one can do somethings they want.so yeah usa has liberty but not freedom.for those who want freedom they should move to mexico and colombia since in these countries aside from being real capitalist they have freedom the masses can do what they wish without worry of suppresion like police or state well usually when you have the cash
something that i really find funny. is that 80% of americans hate comunism, i mean truly hate comunism. and only 18% of people in america knows what comunism actually is. hmm what does that tell us. USA IS A COUTRY FILLED UP WITH PROPAGANDA, AND YOUR GOVERMENT DONT WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT POLITIC, THEY JUST WANTS YOU TO LISTEN TO THEIR COOL SLOGANS.
"We live in a free land called America, where everyone is free to think, believe, express, demonstrate, spread ideas... Oh wait! Did I say anyone?? Anyone exept the communists!!!! We are happy for our free land :P "
stop being a victim and complaining about your situation...you are feel to succeed or you are free to fail, you become a slave when you want the government to provide for you..it is the new slavery.
@warriorprince1010 Thats your reasoning? By that logic my comment was correct, Capitalism is free market slavery, because as in monarchy the few succeed while the rest are forced to work for the ruler. By reasoning is less stupid then yours but is still one of the stupidest things I have ever wrote
@Potts132 In communism the few succeed, the government. 70% of people in the UK and the USA own their own homes, go on holiday each year own a car each. They have succeeded.
Not to mention you should stop butchering what Communism is, Communism HAS NO GOVERNMENT so the few do not succeed making your whole argument invalid, that is if you would read a book and learn what it actually is instead of listening to Anti-Communist governments tell you what it is. But that might take a little work so why would you, easy to be ignorant
@warriorprince1010 No it didn't why do you have regulations? Cause Capitalism failed. So you went to a controlled market(moderate right to center).
Not to mention you never lived in the Soviet Union did you? I did, and it we were way better off then in the RF or in Canada now.
I see by the comment below this one you know nothing about Communism and have never read a book before. I see why you think it failed now, cause you don't know what you or we were. Sorry to say, your and idiot
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 I have it make no sense. Marx never explained how people could have freedom to own their own businesses, run their own lives, make choices, buy their own homes.
@warriorprince1010 It does not describe the government it is a philosophy not a government a philosophy and it's not a government it would be a form of economy capitalism is not a government it is an economy. Economies are not government do you understand? So therefore they can't choose laws like that but communism overthrows the bourgeois who try to diminish the middle class and bring back serfdom communism tries to erase classes and make everyone equal.
@warriorprince1010 Evil? We want equality for the people and we actually have a plan for the economy all communists states have the biggest growing economies that were destroyed by Evil capitalists like yourself in the world so shut up people in South America are actually happy for once not like when that "Free Trade" bullshit took over all the land and enslaved the people there.
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 You want to steal the wealth of a country. The politicians in communism are mega rich and the people are slaves. Who are you to tell someone what they can earn?
@warriorprince1010 OH MY GOD the big corporates executives of America are 1% of the population and own most of the wealth you dummy COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM WANT TO SPREAD THAT WEALTH COMMUNISM IS NOT STALINISM IT IS SOCIALISM COMMUNISM YOU CAN HAVE REPUBLIC GOVERNMENT AND GIVE MANY RIGHTS TO THE PEOPLE IT TRIES TO STOP THE BEATING DOWN OF THE WORKING CLASS FROM THE BOURGEOIS YOU DON'T OWN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO DO YOU YOU RETARD YOU ARE THE MOST IGNORANT PERSON ON EARTH!!!!!!!!!!
@Potts132 Not necessarily the state just has to be renovated to fit the socialistic needs but since most of the communist leaders grew corrupted they made a dictatorship also communism can't exist without government because nothing progressive can happen in anarchy.
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 Most of the wealth and they created most of the wealth you mad idiot. Most people have more money BECAUSE they created welath for us all.
@warriorprince1010 What in god's name are you smoking the bourgeois don't create money and if they do not for the people this isn't a socialist society dummy. Your trying to say socialism and communism is bad yet to me that sounds like what you believe in!
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 The entrepreneurs do indeed create money. Communist leaders were rich by stealing money from people. Branson, Gates, Jobs all created money and jobs. Capitalism creates wealth.
@warriorprince1010 No no no capitalism takes jobs and ships them overseas and bankrupts our economy by paying child slaves a 1 cent every day to make things that Americans should be making they do indeed creates money but 1 cent isn't not at all very much especially when it goes to a foreigner.
@bibanager333 Well a capitalist system that has worked for who the rich the bourgeois not the actual society? Oh yeah a ton have nut there are 0 that have actually worked for society so yeah that is my answer. (P.S. I know you meant communism but I wanted to show you that capitalism fails on a social level.)
@warriorprince1010 What are you smoking? They had good government the IMF world bank tells them what to do and they let their people get raped and enslaved into the industrial machine that is capitalism and that's why communism has spread because people are doing god awful because of capitalism fine be happy and don't care about other humans that's fine but some of us want mutual benefit for the whole human race. Like I said before 1% owns most of the wealth...
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 ah yeah: thanks for your answer, but next time please a little more formal english; i forgot to mention @ the beginning that i'm from austria, so i can't totally understand some of your expressions; but i think i've got the main statement and i totally agree with you; that's what i wanted 2 say! maybe my english is just too bad to express this^^
@bibanager333 You are welcome I think you have know fine English for a foreigner I did not know that you were from Austria so I misinterpreted some of what you said but other than that you know English pretty good.
@warriorprince1010 yes you're right, capitalism creats wealth - but only for a few, rich ones! the other ones, who aren't that lucky 2 be a son/daughter of a rich family (or at least "rather" rich family), are forced 2 live without insurance or some things like that (see also P0WAT0TH3P30PL3's last comment!). okay, obama did the reform of health care system, but this is far not all that has to be done; I only want to thank obama, anyway. he can't act miracles, but he does great for that what...
@bibanager333 I am not a millionaire but have a job and a home, a car and go on holiday twice a year. Capitalism has given me this, communism is about government greed and worse poverty.
@warriorprince1010 honestly: do you know anything about communism/socialism
i'm from austria (that's also y my english isn't the best); but i've got an uncle and an aunt who lived in the former "deutsche demokratisch republik (DDR)" - i don't know the english term but i think ddr should be cler; but what i want to say: they (and not only my relatives, but also other people from eastern germany) today are about 2 say that their live not was categorical worse in the ddr -please recherche "Hartz 4"
it's one of the most unfair systems i know, and it emerges from a capitalist system (i just don't want to declair the system here 'cause it's too much); and i don't want to deny that berlin is richer know - but which part of berlin???? the bourgouisie; and i would more call a country/state/any system call "rich" if, eg., EVERYONE HAS ENOUGH TO LIVE than if some ones have got millions and other nothingTHEREAREREALLYHUNGRYONES!
@bibanager333 Everyone has enough money to live on? Cuba, North Korea, Russia none of them has an average wage of over $20,000 a year, none. The poorest people in the USA, UK, France, Norway earn at least $15,000 a year. Communism is about rich and greedy government and poverty stricken people.
@warriorprince1010 ehhrm: "the poorest people in the USA, UK, France, Norway earn at least $15,000 a year." the poorest people! nice fantasy, would be really great!
but you always take the average: of course, rich people rise this (and also middle-class people); also you cite rather rich states (first of all: norway). and i don't know ANY homeless who earns $15,000 a year!!
i'd call my family middle class and may father earns this, maybe!
@bibanager333 Homeless do not work, that is their choice. They do have access to work if they wanted to, their call. The poorest people who work earn around $15,000 a year, more than the average wage of a worker in Cuba or Russia. Again I am right.
Yes you have freedom, the freedom to get sick and die for lack of treatment, the freedom of the Banks to repo your home if your Factory closes, the states freedom to use their vast wealth & power to set you up for Jail for decades.
And of course the freedom to watch highly controlled TV news to ensure you belive 9-11 was due to far off powers not THEIR support of Decades of mass Murder by Jews on an unarmed people, expect more after Israels cast lead slaughter last year.(unfortunately)
@wind4watts I hate this country. My friend makes $500 a day breaking horses. She has her own company complete with a barn, a house, lots of horses, and employees. She is 14 years old. It's only possible because she was born into a family who have been rich for generations. I, on the other hand, am forced to live with my parents in a trailer with no insurance, simply because I wasn't one of the lucky ones. This country is based on gambling.
@username4396 In a free country u have the freedom to create ur own destiny, im an adult and il create my own destiny i wont be told what i must think or believe! il choose who i work for and im sure a state will not dictate to me! I can think for myself and therefore i choose capitalism. Equally i wont tell you or anyone how they must think or feel unlike communism!
@username4396 Make your own opportunistic. Do you really think government will take care of you. Look at history and see all the horrors that communist have done to their people.
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Karl Marx promoted the idea of transferring the socialist movement to the USA, and wrote to Lincoln about freeing the slaves and encouraged "total war" against the South.
Lenin in 1924 called for an alliance between socialists and Muslim radicals.
It's exactly the same agenda promoted by the New World Order (divide-and-conquer). The environmental movement today is funded by big oil and the nuclear power industry to transfer wealth to developing nations to exploit cheap labor and resources.
We must prevent communism from ever happening, though I am afraid it has already begun. America, let's get in touch with our morals and rejuvinate that great American (not Ipod included) dream. If we lose our morals, we've lost our souls. Remember that. 2012 will not be a climate or geographical disaster. It will be man made. Anyone with a brain that still works can sense that. Texas is on the right and wrong track. They wish to secede. Good luck to them. Without the others, they will need it.
I may only be Twenty-One, but I am a realist. I do not watch what others call "reality" tv and say yes, that is me. I watch and say nope. I would never want to be in their shoes. I asked my friend the other day what America means to him, and he said "I can drink and party and i'm getting paid to do that even though i'm not workin, man!" He now is considered handicapped from real life in my books. I rambled, yes, but I am trying to get others to see that we need to change (not Obama Change).
Fellow veterans and soldiers, ask yourself this: What did I or am I fighting for? Most of you will say "my freedom" or "my country." But, look at our country, our ways of life here in the west. We need not worry about a country in the east attacking us, rather we should worry about extremists gaining power over our cherished and great home of the brave. We should worry about what our country was, and where it is heading. I for one do not like what our future holds do you?
That way of life is no more. We do not fight to save ourselves from terrorists anymore than we fight to gain more kudos from others. We fight out of greed and out of events that's goals have been met. Yes, 9-11 was a horrible incident. We KNOW THIS. But, can we keep liberating that day forever? That answer is no. We fight not for freedom, but for ways that are not only unpure, but are not healthy to us or the rest of the world. We fight for everyone to have an Ipod.
Normandy. We stormed the beaches hellbent of killing every nazi or anything of the like that got in our way. Germans, you too were worthy opponents. You obviously have great fighting skills because you gave us a run for our money. But we fought because we were threatened. Our root beliefs were shaken, and we would not stand for that. Between 1940 and 1960, we knew what real life was like. What is my point? Read on.
Another good example. The men onboard the USS Enterprise Carrier in World War II. Those men fought valiantly. They stood up to a force hell bent on killing us all and asking questions later. They took on men flying into their home with planes. They fought for their way of life. They were never wanting to stray from the fighting. They urged it. They were the real American Freedom Fighters. Japanese, you fought well as well. The Japanese fought out of honor and code. A worthy foe. Kudos.
Those were all scenarios that happen and (the last one) should happen. General Patton. The man. The legend. The bad guy at times, yes. Sorry Russians. You may hate him because of the war he wanted, but he was a true American General. We needed more Generals like him (pre Senile stage). He fought, and fought hard for what was right. Anyone who chickened out of the fight he straightened right up. Yes, he did make mistakes. Every General in war does (Uhm, Killing?) But he stood up for his rights.
That is what is happening, but on a higher level. China, Japan, Britain, even Russia are all sick of helping us out of these situations we have created. We need a new memorial on top of the memorial that we just built for veterans who (not all) are playing the sympathy card to get money. We need a new hospital on top of the other one because that one is not "futuristic" looking like theirs over there! We need a new toilet the size of Texas so we can put all our crappy decisions away for good.
Fellow Americans, you need to open your eyes and see that it is not Republican, Democrat, Independents or anything of the like that will save our country. It is the people who see through the lies and deception. In truth, both parties are willing to destroy our country in order to achieve their place of power. Did you know that the United States, by laws, could be property of Europe if they cannot repay their debt? Isn't that what happens when debt goes unpaid? Your stuff becomes the banks?
FDR, Kennedy, Lincoln, and not George Washington (as it comes to find out he was a phony) were some of histories best defenders of the great country called The United States of America. They did not go to war for gold or coin. They fought to protect the lands we love and to make sure they could continue on into the history books. They did not walk around issues. hey tackled them head on. Taxes. Bail-outs. Reduced government.. etc. That is destroying the United States.
I must speak: The United States is no longer that white picket fence, family loving place it once was. There are laws for laws that get around laws for the government. Rights are being "reduced" and "revised" and we allow this because...? Well, can anybody answer?? Wake up America. Your country is falling under the ways you have created. MTV is not reality. It is a plague. "Reality shows" are NOT reality. They are SHOWS. Jesus Christ! If FDR or Kennedy were here, they'd be ashamed.
"Communism is defined as a hateful, racist devouring of babies and puppies and enslavement of human minds. Did I mention the puppy-eating? Their goal is to kill Americans and torture christians- Why? to get to our delicious puppies. Beware the Red Threat, they will not stop until every last puppy drips with tangy honey mustard sauce."
people think Communism is nothing than some evil dictator that kill hole punch of people like Stalin...Blame to Stalin!!!Lenin and Marx where great people that where the perfect leaders to lead russia to happyness...But now,Russia is suffering by the crisis!!There would be no suffering in Russia if Communism was back...And democratie is nothing than simple lie.If u vote on someone he always do things nobody cares,or build nukes like in Iran...And 75% of all voting are fake...
how can a system that openly supports you to "turn the other cheek" on death, violence, and starvation exist in america... the fluffiest population in the world... we mourn for days when a puppy gets hit by a car (im not implying that isnt sad) but still, gang violence in L.A. is up. and pro-life violence is up, and conservatives want you you to grub ur money so u can have a happier retirement while people all around die for the most pointless of reasons
"while people all around die for the most pointless of reasons"
--If Liberals would allow violent criminals to get prison sentences that actually have an impact, maybe that would change. A sentence of 5 years for murder or molesting half a dozen children doesn't do any good.
And maybe if they actually allowed us to defend ourselves legally, like the 2nd Amendment says we can, maybe that would help change things, too.
hmm, it's a big diference between comunism and totalitarianism(dictatorship).Many peoples don't understand that.Eastern countries were never communist countries, it was a dictatorship.
dude you have no idea, have u even looked into the plans of the CPUSA? They told everyone to vote democratic because democrats lean more towards socialism. Look it up
oh really? is that how the communists got obama in? The whole CPUSA plan was to get obama in because he leans more towards socialism. He is fufilling the communist agenda and communism will eventually work its way to the top
i was responding to "we are divided and fall" if you want to' fal'l with the millionaire bankers why they are robbing you, i think that you're funny, and delusional. but now that i just read your comments you just made, id have to say you're mostly disillusional.
You are correct. Sadly, most people believe Communism is dead, but through their agents in media and government, the Reds are busily removing OUR freedoms and liberties.
democracy always commits suicide, and when it does it always leads into a despotic government which is usually a dictatorship. If you do not believe me, look all of it up. I would rather live in a Constitutional republic than under any other form of government.
Comunism is a ideology that betrayes everyone in the end. YOU END UP WITH NO IDENTITY OF YOUR OWN!! Some people are Neanthertals, to think that their self-esteem and respect can be restored by something outside themselves. COMMUNISM=VIOLENT SUPPRESSION FOR ALL!!!!!!
Depends wat class and race u are, if i was rich id rather be in facism, if i was a jew i'd rather be in communism. if i was a rich jew i'd be fucked :P
--You say Communism is the best form of government, but you don't live in a Communist nation. Why? You haven't left your nation to live somewhere more aligned to your philosophies and beliefs because you're a coward. You actually prefer the USA for your home, which also makes you a hypocrite.
So the founding fathers were cowards because they preferred to make their country better, instead of just moving to say..the Dutch Republic? There's no such thing as a "communist nation", anyway.
Cut the nationalist bullshit. A country is more than it political and economic system. By your logic the Founding Fathers were cowards and hypocrites.
"The dictatorship of the proletariat, the period of transition to communism, will for the first time create democracy for the people, for the majority, along with the necessary suppression of the exploiters, of the minority."
"Democracy for an insignificant minority, democracy for the rich that is the democracy of capitalist society."
It's kind of funny that Alexander Hamilton opposed democracy because he thought it would lead to something like communist revolution.
The argument against democracy that I was referring to was made by James Madison:
"Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."
"The argument against democracy that I was referring to was made by James Madison"
--Madison wasn't against Democracy, he's pointing out it's flaws. Democracy isn't perfect, but it's the best thing going, and it's the most fair thing going.
Again, if you hate Democracy and embrace Communism, why the fuck do you still live in America? Because you're a coward.
Yes he was you ignorant fuck. I think you have some reading to do. Start with the constitution or some of the federalist papers. The founding fathers were republicans, and advocated a republic as opposed to a democracy.
As I pointed out many times, communism = democracy. I support democracy.
Again, if the Founding Fathers hated monarchy and embraced republicanism, why the fuck didn't they just move to the Dutch Republic? Because they were cowards, at least according to your line of reasoning.
Our republic is wrongly referred to as a democracy. It's as simple as that. It's just to aid the illusion that the people actually exercise sovereignty. Woodrow Wilson started this trend.
South Korea? I think you have the wrong country. Either way, those countries were not "communist" nor did they ever claim to be.
You think the founding fathers wouldn't have led a revolution if the monarchy had been from America?
But they can ignore what the people want them to do, meaning the power lies with the politicians.
No, they don't. They're called communist because they were run by a "communist party." By that logic, the dictatorship of Turkmenistan is a democracy, because it's run by the democratic party.
Not the founding fathers. A republic is a smarter choice anyway, because while it and a monarchy are both governments by the rich, it isn't as obvious in the case of a republic.
The people aren't the boss. They aren't bound to the will of the people AT ALL.
No, I know very well that North Korea is not democratic. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about when it comes to forms of government. Those countries were only ever called communist by western governments. I guess you believe everything our government tells you?
Democratic methods in our republic? That doesn't even make sense.
This is from the same training manual mentioned earlier: "Our Constitutional fathers, familiar with the strength and weakness of both autocracy and democracy, with fixed principles definitely in mind, defined a representative republican form of government. They 'made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had founded a republic.'
is everyone a 5 year old to you? Well im saying this in a very civil way, communism CAN be run by the people, as long as it doesnt wander into communist dictatorship, then we'd have a problem
"communism CAN be run by the people, as long as it doesnt wander into communist dictatorship"
--Okay, I'll treat you with respect.
Answer this please: Can you name one nation that tried Communism and it has worked out the way you just described? Where it worked out better than the USA.
Just provide one single example of the success of Communism.
I don't think you can. The philosophies of our political, economic, & judicial systems work best for people living & working together in freedom.
Hey, man, can you provide me with a SINGLE example of capitalist society in the southern hemisphere that guarantees food and health care for it's own population at a reasonable level? After that I'll answer your question
--A capitalist system is an economic system usually associated with a form of democracy.
Its not the purpose of govt to provide, let alone guarantee, food & health care for it's population. Get your head out of that Communist paradigm if you can.
Aside from that there are plenty of democratic nations in the southern hemisphere were the people have not all died due to the lack of government-provided food & health care. In fact, I think all of them.
Well, you answered respectfully so I'll try and do it too. First of all, capitalism and democracy can coexist but they are not co-determined:Spain has been a capitalist society AND a dictatorship for 40 years. You may find your own examples in Africa now a days, for example.Now, I don't know if we will agree in what is exactly to die of hunger, but you can check the facts out in the CIA world fact book -not a very communist source, is it?
what does "usually" means to you? What I'm trying to do is give you examples of horrendous crimes against humanity performed under capitalist economies, even under so called democratic regimes to prove you that usually, capitalism is "usually" opposed to democracy, apart from the countries of the north (by this I mean Western Europe, Northern America, Australia and Japan). Why is that?Doesn't it look strange to you?Does it have to do with genetics or rather with capitalism as a global system?
"examples of horrendous crimes against humanity performed under capitalist economies"
--I think there have been worse crimes under other systems, like Socialism/Communism and Fascism/National Socialism. The USA didn't kill 50million Russians in 4 years, Socialism did. And capitalism hasn't killed millions in N. Korea by starvation, Communism has.
"Horrendous crimes against humanity". I don't like to play the game of comparing death tolls, but are you actually telling me that there were more people killed in the USSR for political reasons than people killed in Africa for economic (=political) reasons?It doesn't make the USSR look much better, but, come on man, the USA has just killed between 500 thousand and 1million irakies in 5 years. Its not 50mil, but, hey! not too bad either. If we take just the last 50 years the picture gets scary
I don't think calling me a liberal and a lier helps understanding. What part of 500.000 to 1.000.000 iraki deaths is a lie?
Ok, let's take an ultraconservative death toll... 200.000? 100.000? And lets say a accept that. Does it make the invasion look any better?Does it prove that capitalism is better than whatever backwatered way of organizing the country that might be in place under Saddam?And don't even think about saying that I'm defending Saddam,cos that's not the case.
"We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy... It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."
"Democracy isn't perfect, but it's the best thing going"
--Meant as Democracy (our employment of democratic methods in our Republic) is great compared to Socialism, Communism, dictatorships, etc.
If you bend everything your friends say out of shape and into things they never said, how do you still have friends? Besides that, this is a way to have a discussion. This is just you nit-picking everything people say and accuse them of saying something they didn't. Well, hooray for you. Good job.
I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and it is an oath I WILL keep. I will gladly give my life to ensure that not a single American EVER has to live under a commie dictatorship. That is what EVERY commie "government" is,a dictatorship, ruled by a few powerful heads. While the rest have no rights, and no say in anything. If you do speak up you get "disappeared".
ImperatorDominus 9 months ago 2
@ImperatorDominus Actually capitalism suppresses freedom of speech. Communism does not have to be a dictatorship or even a democracy. We can all live in anarchy, in peace.
wesleysonic 9 months ago
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Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism.
(The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America."
(The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit) The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people."
- Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919.
Revelation 2:9,,3:9
MsMihailescu 1 year ago
last thing (at least for today):
"better apples for everyone than bananas for someones" - think about! (and don't pin me down to this - it's a metaphor!)
bibanager333 1 year ago
next point: y do you say, communism doesn't offer entertainment? do you think they haven't got a cinema on cuba? or anything like that? ok, many people can't afford, let's say, theatre tickts; but y? no economy - y? there's the cuban sugarcane -> rum; many other products. but they can't do any export. so in fact all this systems don't work 'cause "first world" wants to suppress them. and then they can say "look, it doesn't work. that's reality!
bibanager333 1 year ago
"Homeless d... ...ain I am right." OK, of course homeless do not work - if thei would they probably wouldn't be homeless! but you can't say it's their choice!! i want a system where everyone's got the same chances. and a homeless of is homeless because he (or his parents) couldn't/cant afford any better kind of education. but to say "every umemployed/homeless doesn't want to work" is nonsens. and y is there no variety in, let's say, cuba? 'cause the capitalists don't want to trade with 'em!
bibanager333 1 year ago
..ones; they only call themselves so, because they think it sounds good or i dont know! I AM A REAL DISPUTANT OF NORTH COREA, E.G.
as already mentioned: i'd also not call this states c/s'istic - i mean, that are dictatorships and a dictatiorship is an absolute contrary to a c/sistic system - "everyone's equal". as i said before: there are many states which seem 2 be (or want to seem) communist ones; BUT THEY AREN'T REALLY!
a little detail: cubas economy would work much better without the embargo
bibanager333 1 year ago
@bibanager333 Ace do you want to KNOW what is KILLING our freedom?.
LOOK at your writing COREA? Korea is speeled with a K NOT a C.
IGNORANCE is killing our freedom the rich wanted the Civil rights bill for good reason.
Bring the masses and workers down to one level, they unleashed Negroes into the School system
I'm a DROPOUT! a 9th GRADE dropout. Yet I have more education than graduates of today with a HS diploma. Negroes RUINED our Schools only the very rich are getting an Education
2bwhiteproud 11 months ago
@2bwhiteproud Spelled was a TYPO
The Rich want the masses to be STUPID!!
If your STUPID they can do what their doing today STEALING YOUR MONEY they KEEP TELLING you their going to RAISE TAXES!.
Want to know a FACT? EVERYTIME you get a Raise or any other worker the taxes ARE RAISED then and THERE cost of living you get 5% or more the goverment gets MORE taxes so tax raises aren ot only illegal they are already GETTING MORE. But that isn't ENOUGH for these CROOKS,They WILL STEAL MORE AND MORE
2bwhiteproud 11 months ago
@2bwhiteproud
in short, you want back apartheid? ("negroes ruined our schools.." - wtf" - i don't like reviling people but if you really meant this - FUCKIN RACIST!! i can only see that you haven't got any "education" - do u know what apartheid and all these things have done to so many countries but also eg the US?
ps. if you had read also my other postings, you'd know me 2 be from austria.. so i think you could forgive "C" orea, but you know which country i meant....
bibanager333 11 months ago
@2bwhiteproud and "speeled" is spelled with a double-l. spelled. n00b.
By the way English is not my mother tongue, so you maybe could forgive me?...
ps. FUCKIN' RACIST?????????
bibanager333 8 months ago
and i didn't talk about money, actually. but in ddr (or also maybo on cuba), e.g. a flat didn't cost much (or even nothing, you got it from the state). i know of course this weren't suits, but everyone could afford at last a home with kitchen, bad, bathroom and living room - shortly: a home!
IMPORTANT: i really don't want to say that china, north korea or any other of the states like this (also the regime of pol pot, e.g.) is or was good at anytime. but this states aren't communist/socialist...
bibanager333 1 year ago
@bibanager333 If I eat potatoes every day and drink water all week, then it will not cost me anything either. I WANT CHOICE AND VARIETY AND ENTERTAINMENT, COMMUNISM DOES NOT OFFER ME THIS.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
"P.S. I know you meant communism but I wanted to show you that capitalism fails on a social level."
- that's exactly what i wanted to say - my english is really too worse^^
bibanager333 1 year ago
okay; now also something about the (capitalist) crisis: do you remember 1926 (ok you're not that old, nor am i); but do you know what happened?: the states "rescued" the banks; half a year (or maybe a year) after, the crisis appeared again. the consequence was, that even the state didn't have any money left, and many jobs got lost; --> unemployment --> people are unsatisfied. AND THIS WAS ALSO THE REASON Y HITLER GAINED THAT MUCH POWER IN GERMANY, i only want to mention!!
bibanager333 1 year ago
... continuation .. he can't act wonders but he does great.
I know communism not to be a good form of governement, but remember churchill...("Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.") what i want to mention here, before anyone believes to have a great argument against this comment: COMMUNISM/SOCIALISM IS NOT THE CONTRARY OF DEMOCRACY!!
I also know that there were many communist systems that didn't work perfectly, and ...
bibanager333 1 year ago
People all over the world move to the USA. If it is such a bad country why do so many people move there? Why can't communist accept that people want freedom and liberty, they want to make their own choices not have them made for them. I am from the UK and fear that due to high taxes I will have to move to the USA to find make money.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 to answer your question well honestly because usa screwed them over in the past mainly in cold war. one piece of evidence i put is the ten years of spring in guatemala if usa had not intervene this country probably wouldnt be the shit hole it is today. also capitalist propaganda(americanisation).also technically usa is/has not been capitalist.it is fascist.it did have socialism when it said it was capitalist(cold war). it hasnt been capitalist since atleast native genocides
cooks1234 1 year ago
@cooks1234 Capitalist propaganda does not exist. Capitalism is a right to won your own property and business. It has no arguments or opinions it is merely a r ight.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 uh actually its an idea which is usually seen as an economic one. but lets face it even if its meant to affect economy of a society it also has an affect on the political,social,and mentality of a society aswell.also what i mean about capitalist propaganda is the medias(which is controled by the rich self proclaimed capitalist) influence on peoples views(even though most of it is and has been lies)and the portrayal of history(mainly cold war).
cooks1234 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 also as far as freedom and liberty.well first of you cant have both since freedom means one can do what they want while liberty means one can do somethings they want.so yeah usa has liberty but not freedom.for those who want freedom they should move to mexico and colombia since in these countries aside from being real capitalist they have freedom the masses can do what they wish without worry of suppresion like police or state well usually when you have the cash
cooks1234 1 year ago
something that i really find funny. is that 80% of americans hate comunism, i mean truly hate comunism. and only 18% of people in america knows what comunism actually is. hmm what does that tell us. USA IS A COUTRY FILLED UP WITH PROPAGANDA, AND YOUR GOVERMENT DONT WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT POLITIC, THEY JUST WANTS YOU TO LISTEN TO THEIR COOL SLOGANS.
gulbirk 1 year ago
"We live in a free land called America, where everyone is free to think, believe, express, demonstrate, spread ideas... Oh wait! Did I say anyone?? Anyone exept the communists!!!! We are happy for our free land :P "
queenmusicfreak86 1 year ago 2
stop being a victim and complaining about your situation...you are feel to succeed or you are free to fail, you become a slave when you want the government to provide for you..it is the new slavery.
jimbo9650 1 year ago
@jimbo9650 Communism is state slavery.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 Communist state is a contradiction. Not to mention, Capitalism is wage slavery
Potts132 1 year ago
@Potts132 Capitalism has no slavery, corrupt governments cause that. Communism is a by word for corruption.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 Communism has no slavery either but you said it did.
Communist government is a contradiction. And even if it were not, money is not a motive.
To your other comment, no Capitalist propaganda? That is the single stupidest thing I have read in my line
Potts132 1 year ago
@Potts132 Communism is state slavery. If someone cannot own their own business then they are slaves.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 Thats your reasoning? By that logic my comment was correct, Capitalism is free market slavery, because as in monarchy the few succeed while the rest are forced to work for the ruler. By reasoning is less stupid then yours but is still one of the stupidest things I have ever wrote
Potts132 1 year ago
@Potts132 In communism the few succeed, the government. 70% of people in the UK and the USA own their own homes, go on holiday each year own a car each. They have succeeded.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 1% also have more the 95%.
70%? I doubt 70% have paid of there debt.
Not to mention you should stop butchering what Communism is, Communism HAS NO GOVERNMENT so the few do not succeed making your whole argument invalid, that is if you would read a book and learn what it actually is instead of listening to Anti-Communist governments tell you what it is. But that might take a little work so why would you, easy to be ignorant
Potts132 1 year ago
@Potts132 70% of people in the UK and USA won their own homes, fact. Capitalism has worked.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 No it didn't why do you have regulations? Cause Capitalism failed. So you went to a controlled market(moderate right to center).
Not to mention you never lived in the Soviet Union did you? I did, and it we were way better off then in the RF or in Canada now.
I see by the comment below this one you know nothing about Communism and have never read a book before. I see why you think it failed now, cause you don't know what you or we were. Sorry to say, your and idiot
Potts132 1 year ago
@Potts132 Capitalism is a society where everyone has education and a well regulated market system.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 Then why do nearly all the former Soviet states have a higher literacy rate then you?
Well regulated, hence Socialism, therefore not Capitalist. Everyone is Socialist, some more then others
Potts132 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 I suggest you read the Communist Manifesto so you actually start to know what your talking about.
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 I have it make no sense. Marx never explained how people could have freedom to own their own businesses, run their own lives, make choices, buy their own homes.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 It does not describe the government it is a philosophy not a government a philosophy and it's not a government it would be a form of economy capitalism is not a government it is an economy. Economies are not government do you understand? So therefore they can't choose laws like that but communism overthrows the bourgeois who try to diminish the middle class and bring back serfdom communism tries to erase classes and make everyone equal.
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 Communism is about government planned economies. The government is king and the people are its slaves.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 I am done you can't be argued with your so stupid it isn't funny!
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 I am done with evil communists like you.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 Evil? We want equality for the people and we actually have a plan for the economy all communists states have the biggest growing economies that were destroyed by Evil capitalists like yourself in the world so shut up people in South America are actually happy for once not like when that "Free Trade" bullshit took over all the land and enslaved the people there.
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 You want to steal the wealth of a country. The politicians in communism are mega rich and the people are slaves. Who are you to tell someone what they can earn?
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 OH MY GOD the big corporates executives of America are 1% of the population and own most of the wealth you dummy COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM WANT TO SPREAD THAT WEALTH COMMUNISM IS NOT STALINISM IT IS SOCIALISM COMMUNISM YOU CAN HAVE REPUBLIC GOVERNMENT AND GIVE MANY RIGHTS TO THE PEOPLE IT TRIES TO STOP THE BEATING DOWN OF THE WORKING CLASS FROM THE BOURGEOIS YOU DON'T OWN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO DO YOU YOU RETARD YOU ARE THE MOST IGNORANT PERSON ON EARTH!!!!!!!!!!
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 Actually Communism can't have a government, sate has to wither away
Potts132 1 year ago
@Potts132 Not necessarily the state just has to be renovated to fit the socialistic needs but since most of the communist leaders grew corrupted they made a dictatorship also communism can't exist without government because nothing progressive can happen in anarchy.
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 No, it CANNOT have a government. There is no two ways about it. Communism, CANNOT have a government or it is not Communism.
Communism can't exist WITH a government because its not Communism if it has one.
Read your Marx, at least I read my Smith
Potts132 1 year ago
@Potts132 Fine I'll re-read the Manifesto tonight but I'm pretty sure it does have a government that coexists with it.
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 It is not "Communist" until the temporary dictatorship of the proletarian withers away and the workers take over
Potts132 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 Most of the wealth and they created most of the wealth you mad idiot. Most people have more money BECAUSE they created welath for us all.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 What in god's name are you smoking the bourgeois don't create money and if they do not for the people this isn't a socialist society dummy. Your trying to say socialism and communism is bad yet to me that sounds like what you believe in!
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 The entrepreneurs do indeed create money. Communist leaders were rich by stealing money from people. Branson, Gates, Jobs all created money and jobs. Capitalism creates wealth.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 No no no capitalism takes jobs and ships them overseas and bankrupts our economy by paying child slaves a 1 cent every day to make things that Americans should be making they do indeed creates money but 1 cent isn't not at all very much especially when it goes to a foreigner.
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 I' ve got to continue here; hope that works!
... and there were also crimes done by states - but do you know any capitalist system that really worked?..little pause, 2 be continued!!
bibanager333 1 year ago
@bibanager333 Well a capitalist system that has worked for who the rich the bourgeois not the actual society? Oh yeah a ton have nut there are 0 that have actually worked for society so yeah that is my answer. (P.S. I know you meant communism but I wanted to show you that capitalism fails on a social level.)
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 That is poor government in those poor countries. If we had all turned to capitalism together we would all be rich together.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 What are you smoking? They had good government the IMF world bank tells them what to do and they let their people get raped and enslaved into the industrial machine that is capitalism and that's why communism has spread because people are doing god awful because of capitalism fine be happy and don't care about other humans that's fine but some of us want mutual benefit for the whole human race. Like I said before 1% owns most of the wealth...
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 ah yeah: thanks for your answer, but next time please a little more formal english; i forgot to mention @ the beginning that i'm from austria, so i can't totally understand some of your expressions; but i think i've got the main statement and i totally agree with you; that's what i wanted 2 say! maybe my english is just too bad to express this^^
bibanager333 1 year ago
@bibanager333 You are welcome I think you have know fine English for a foreigner I did not know that you were from Austria so I misinterpreted some of what you said but other than that you know English pretty good.
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 yes you're right, capitalism creats wealth - but only for a few, rich ones! the other ones, who aren't that lucky 2 be a son/daughter of a rich family (or at least "rather" rich family), are forced 2 live without insurance or some things like that (see also P0WAT0TH3P30PL3's last comment!). okay, obama did the reform of health care system, but this is far not all that has to be done; I only want to thank obama, anyway. he can't act miracles, but he does great for that what...
bibanager333 1 year ago
@bibanager333 I am not a millionaire but have a job and a home, a car and go on holiday twice a year. Capitalism has given me this, communism is about government greed and worse poverty.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 honestly: do you know anything about communism/socialism
i'm from austria (that's also y my english isn't the best); but i've got an uncle and an aunt who lived in the former "deutsche demokratisch republik (DDR)" - i don't know the english term but i think ddr should be cler; but what i want to say: they (and not only my relatives, but also other people from eastern germany) today are about 2 say that their live not was categorical worse in the ddr -please recherche "Hartz 4"
bibanager333 1 year ago
@bibanager333 You are talking utter nonsense. Berlin is richer now than it ever was under the Soviet Union.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 okay; did you just do research about "hartz 4"?????
it's one of the most unfair systems i know, and it emerges from a capitalist system (i just don't want to declair the system here 'cause it's too much); and i don't want to deny that berlin is richer know - but which part of berlin???? the bourgouisie; and i would more call a country/state/any system call "rich" if, eg., EVERYONE HAS ENOUGH TO LIVE than if some ones have got millions and other nothingTHEREAREREALLYHUNGRYONES!
bibanager333 1 year ago
@bibanager333 Everyone has enough money to live on? Cuba, North Korea, Russia none of them has an average wage of over $20,000 a year, none. The poorest people in the USA, UK, France, Norway earn at least $15,000 a year. Communism is about rich and greedy government and poverty stricken people.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 ehhrm: "the poorest people in the USA, UK, France, Norway earn at least $15,000 a year." the poorest people! nice fantasy, would be really great!
but you always take the average: of course, rich people rise this (and also middle-class people); also you cite rather rich states (first of all: norway). and i don't know ANY homeless who earns $15,000 a year!!
i'd call my family middle class and may father earns this, maybe!
bibanager333 1 year ago
@bibanager333 Homeless do not work, that is their choice. They do have access to work if they wanted to, their call. The poorest people who work earn around $15,000 a year, more than the average wage of a worker in Cuba or Russia. Again I am right.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
Yes you have freedom, the freedom to get sick and die for lack of treatment, the freedom of the Banks to repo your home if your Factory closes, the states freedom to use their vast wealth & power to set you up for Jail for decades.
And of course the freedom to watch highly controlled TV news to ensure you belive 9-11 was due to far off powers not THEIR support of Decades of mass Murder by Jews on an unarmed people, expect more after Israels cast lead slaughter last year.(unfortunately)
wind4watts 2 years ago 5
@wind4watts I hate this country. My friend makes $500 a day breaking horses. She has her own company complete with a barn, a house, lots of horses, and employees. She is 14 years old. It's only possible because she was born into a family who have been rich for generations. I, on the other hand, am forced to live with my parents in a trailer with no insurance, simply because I wasn't one of the lucky ones. This country is based on gambling.
username4396 1 year ago 7
@username4396 In a free country u have the freedom to create ur own destiny, im an adult and il create my own destiny i wont be told what i must think or believe! il choose who i work for and im sure a state will not dictate to me! I can think for myself and therefore i choose capitalism. Equally i wont tell you or anyone how they must think or feel unlike communism!
olddonno1 1 year ago
@username4396 You should have worked harder at school.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@username4396 Make your own opportunistic. Do you really think government will take care of you. Look at history and see all the horrors that communist have done to their people.
misurefiney1 10 months ago
@username4396
Yankeeland is a country of shit!
SOYUZ1968 9 months ago
@username4396 what country isnt?
proatmetazine30906 6 months ago
Communism is nothing more than fascism under a red flag.
The history of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. proves my point!
AcePilot2009 2 years ago
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Karl Marx promoted the idea of transferring the socialist movement to the USA, and wrote to Lincoln about freeing the slaves and encouraged "total war" against the South.
Lenin in 1924 called for an alliance between socialists and Muslim radicals.
It's exactly the same agenda promoted by the New World Order (divide-and-conquer). The environmental movement today is funded by big oil and the nuclear power industry to transfer wealth to developing nations to exploit cheap labor and resources.
AcePilot2009 2 years ago
I'm not into people worship,so cutthroats
like Stalin would never impress me.
vrghiks 2 years ago
Talk to an atheist,you've talked to a communist.Ungodly!
Better do the homework people!
vrghiks 2 years ago
We must prevent communism from ever happening, though I am afraid it has already begun. America, let's get in touch with our morals and rejuvinate that great American (not Ipod included) dream. If we lose our morals, we've lost our souls. Remember that. 2012 will not be a climate or geographical disaster. It will be man made. Anyone with a brain that still works can sense that. Texas is on the right and wrong track. They wish to secede. Good luck to them. Without the others, they will need it.
Anthaleus 2 years ago
I may only be Twenty-One, but I am a realist. I do not watch what others call "reality" tv and say yes, that is me. I watch and say nope. I would never want to be in their shoes. I asked my friend the other day what America means to him, and he said "I can drink and party and i'm getting paid to do that even though i'm not workin, man!" He now is considered handicapped from real life in my books. I rambled, yes, but I am trying to get others to see that we need to change (not Obama Change).
Anthaleus 2 years ago
Fellow veterans and soldiers, ask yourself this: What did I or am I fighting for? Most of you will say "my freedom" or "my country." But, look at our country, our ways of life here in the west. We need not worry about a country in the east attacking us, rather we should worry about extremists gaining power over our cherished and great home of the brave. We should worry about what our country was, and where it is heading. I for one do not like what our future holds do you?
Anthaleus 2 years ago
My point is this:
That way of life is no more. We do not fight to save ourselves from terrorists anymore than we fight to gain more kudos from others. We fight out of greed and out of events that's goals have been met. Yes, 9-11 was a horrible incident. We KNOW THIS. But, can we keep liberating that day forever? That answer is no. We fight not for freedom, but for ways that are not only unpure, but are not healthy to us or the rest of the world. We fight for everyone to have an Ipod.
Anthaleus 2 years ago
Normandy. We stormed the beaches hellbent of killing every nazi or anything of the like that got in our way. Germans, you too were worthy opponents. You obviously have great fighting skills because you gave us a run for our money. But we fought because we were threatened. Our root beliefs were shaken, and we would not stand for that. Between 1940 and 1960, we knew what real life was like. What is my point? Read on.
Anthaleus 2 years ago
Another good example. The men onboard the USS Enterprise Carrier in World War II. Those men fought valiantly. They stood up to a force hell bent on killing us all and asking questions later. They took on men flying into their home with planes. They fought for their way of life. They were never wanting to stray from the fighting. They urged it. They were the real American Freedom Fighters. Japanese, you fought well as well. The Japanese fought out of honor and code. A worthy foe. Kudos.
Anthaleus 2 years ago
Those were all scenarios that happen and (the last one) should happen. General Patton. The man. The legend. The bad guy at times, yes. Sorry Russians. You may hate him because of the war he wanted, but he was a true American General. We needed more Generals like him (pre Senile stage). He fought, and fought hard for what was right. Anyone who chickened out of the fight he straightened right up. Yes, he did make mistakes. Every General in war does (Uhm, Killing?) But he stood up for his rights.
Anthaleus 2 years ago
That is what is happening, but on a higher level. China, Japan, Britain, even Russia are all sick of helping us out of these situations we have created. We need a new memorial on top of the memorial that we just built for veterans who (not all) are playing the sympathy card to get money. We need a new hospital on top of the other one because that one is not "futuristic" looking like theirs over there! We need a new toilet the size of Texas so we can put all our crappy decisions away for good.
Anthaleus 2 years ago
Fellow Americans, you need to open your eyes and see that it is not Republican, Democrat, Independents or anything of the like that will save our country. It is the people who see through the lies and deception. In truth, both parties are willing to destroy our country in order to achieve their place of power. Did you know that the United States, by laws, could be property of Europe if they cannot repay their debt? Isn't that what happens when debt goes unpaid? Your stuff becomes the banks?
Anthaleus 2 years ago
FDR, Kennedy, Lincoln, and not George Washington (as it comes to find out he was a phony) were some of histories best defenders of the great country called The United States of America. They did not go to war for gold or coin. They fought to protect the lands we love and to make sure they could continue on into the history books. They did not walk around issues. hey tackled them head on. Taxes. Bail-outs. Reduced government.. etc. That is destroying the United States.
Anthaleus 2 years ago
I must speak: The United States is no longer that white picket fence, family loving place it once was. There are laws for laws that get around laws for the government. Rights are being "reduced" and "revised" and we allow this because...? Well, can anybody answer?? Wake up America. Your country is falling under the ways you have created. MTV is not reality. It is a plague. "Reality shows" are NOT reality. They are SHOWS. Jesus Christ! If FDR or Kennedy were here, they'd be ashamed.
Anthaleus 2 years ago
"Communism is defined as a hateful, racist devouring of babies and puppies and enslavement of human minds. Did I mention the puppy-eating? Their goal is to kill Americans and torture christians- Why? to get to our delicious puppies. Beware the Red Threat, they will not stop until every last puppy drips with tangy honey mustard sauce."
AnonymousBAD 2 years ago
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people think Communism is nothing than some evil dictator that kill hole punch of people like Stalin...Blame to Stalin!!!Lenin and Marx where great people that where the perfect leaders to lead russia to happyness...But now,Russia is suffering by the crisis!!There would be no suffering in Russia if Communism was back...And democratie is nothing than simple lie.If u vote on someone he always do things nobody cares,or build nukes like in Iran...And 75% of all voting are fake...
iownage4youi 2 years ago
this is umm... a bit biased?
:D
kashga11 2 years ago
research the new world order
boogaloo80 2 years ago
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McMotorrad 2 years ago
:15 Interesting "coincidence" that Truman's statement against Communism was made on April 20th!
Yeah, I'm sure it was a coincidence...
randy109 2 years ago
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Keep up the fight for new Soviets !!!
LONG LIVE GREAT COMMUNISM !!!!
GLORY TO STALIN DEATH TO FASCISM !!!
workergirls 2 years ago
коммунизм длиной в реальном маштабе времени
red power!
cooldan11 2 years ago
how can a system that openly supports you to "turn the other cheek" on death, violence, and starvation exist in america... the fluffiest population in the world... we mourn for days when a puppy gets hit by a car (im not implying that isnt sad) but still, gang violence in L.A. is up. and pro-life violence is up, and conservatives want you you to grub ur money so u can have a happier retirement while people all around die for the most pointless of reasons
Jarut195 2 years ago
"while people all around die for the most pointless of reasons"
--If Liberals would allow violent criminals to get prison sentences that actually have an impact, maybe that would change. A sentence of 5 years for murder or molesting half a dozen children doesn't do any good.
And maybe if they actually allowed us to defend ourselves legally, like the 2nd Amendment says we can, maybe that would help change things, too.
NoGuff 2 years ago
how bout this, instead of anarchy and avoiding the actual problems, why doesn't humanity become educated and begin to think rationally and morally.
LittlefingerSoIF 2 years ago
"why doesn't humanity become educated and begin to think rationally and morally"
--We did. It was called a constitutional republic. Now we are devolving into Communism due to stupidity, apathy, and sheer ignorance.
It's sad, really.
NoGuff 2 years ago
Love how you "forgot" to mention that Democrats started HUAC...
dirkcjelli 2 years ago
hmm, it's a big diference between comunism and totalitarianism(dictatorship).Many peoples don't understand that.Eastern countries were never communist countries, it was a dictatorship.
cornel10 2 years ago 2
dude you have no idea, have u even looked into the plans of the CPUSA? They told everyone to vote democratic because democrats lean more towards socialism. Look it up
kookykoala333 2 years ago
they still brainwash you guys about how evil socialism and / or communism is?
hehehehehe
propaganda at it's best and clearly it's working, just by readin the comments u can see it :D
Darusdei 2 years ago 2
i dont want to be in a communist country
BigSlimJimmy 2 years ago
it's insane they are nationalizing our industries at the moment. SURREAL!!!
collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
so what? without nationalization we are divided and fall. But uniting banks and industries, we shall rule as one, comrades, the red dawn is coming
kookykoala333 2 years ago
you're delusional
collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
oh really? is that how the communists got obama in? The whole CPUSA plan was to get obama in because he leans more towards socialism. He is fufilling the communist agenda and communism will eventually work its way to the top
kookykoala333 2 years ago
i was responding to "we are divided and fall" if you want to' fal'l with the millionaire bankers why they are robbing you, i think that you're funny, and delusional. but now that i just read your comments you just made, id have to say you're mostly disillusional.
collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
You should read the Russian textbook on Psychopolitics. Ties into this.
RenneDanjoule 2 years ago
Communists work through subversion. Exactly what we are seeing today. Subversion of our press, our culture, our education system, and our government.
NoGuff 3 years ago
Agreed
AntiMarxist4life 3 years ago
You are correct. Sadly, most people believe Communism is dead, but through their agents in media and government, the Reds are busily removing OUR freedoms and liberties.
DunlopDaytona 2 years ago
democracy always commits suicide, and when it does it always leads into a despotic government which is usually a dictatorship. If you do not believe me, look all of it up. I would rather live in a Constitutional republic than under any other form of government.
AntiMarxist4life 3 years ago
Long live the Queen!
DunlopDaytona 2 years ago
COMmUNISM must be with democracy..
zania1993 3 years ago
Sorry, I'm a Moderate.
Stefnir94 3 years ago
Comunism is a ideology that betrayes everyone in the end. YOU END UP WITH NO IDENTITY OF YOUR OWN!! Some people are Neanthertals, to think that their self-esteem and respect can be restored by something outside themselves. COMMUNISM=VIOLENT SUPPRESSION FOR ALL!!!!!!
patpepi 3 years ago
id would rather have communism then fascistism
ForMotherRussia135 3 years ago
Depends wat class and race u are, if i was rich id rather be in facism, if i was a jew i'd rather be in communism. if i was a rich jew i'd be fucked :P
Catholicism777 3 years ago
Only the nazis where anti-semetic. But the others where great ethier.
In communism jews have also suffered.
So I always choose democracy.
RufusRamen 3 years ago
Socialism = democracy
ZakeD3 3 years ago
"Socialism = democracy"
--Really? Try this out for size:
"The goal of Socialism is Communism."
-Vladimir Lenin
NoGuff 2 years ago
Okay? How about this one:
"The Germans number around forty million. Will for example all forty million be member of the government?
Marx: Certainly! Since the whole thing begins with the self-government of the commune."
ZakeD3 2 years ago
And you live where? America? And not in a Communist country?
But....I thought Communism was superior, as you say.
Nice to see you live like a coward rather than live by your convictions. And I'm supposed to take you seriously?
NoGuff 2 years ago
There's no such thing as a "communist country."
I live like a coward? How's that?
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"I live like a coward? How's that?"
--You say Communism is the best form of government, but you don't live in a Communist nation. Why? You haven't left your nation to live somewhere more aligned to your philosophies and beliefs because you're a coward. You actually prefer the USA for your home, which also makes you a hypocrite.
NoGuff 2 years ago
So the founding fathers were cowards because they preferred to make their country better, instead of just moving to say..the Dutch Republic? There's no such thing as a "communist nation", anyway.
Cut the nationalist bullshit. A country is more than it political and economic system. By your logic the Founding Fathers were cowards and hypocrites.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
Since you like Lenin:
"The dictatorship of the proletariat, the period of transition to communism, will for the first time create democracy for the people, for the majority, along with the necessary suppression of the exploiters, of the minority."
"Democracy for an insignificant minority, democracy for the rich that is the democracy of capitalist society."
It's kind of funny that Alexander Hamilton opposed democracy because he thought it would lead to something like communist revolution.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
The argument against democracy that I was referring to was made by James Madison:
"Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"The argument against democracy that I was referring to was made by James Madison"
--Madison wasn't against Democracy, he's pointing out it's flaws. Democracy isn't perfect, but it's the best thing going, and it's the most fair thing going.
Again, if you hate Democracy and embrace Communism, why the fuck do you still live in America? Because you're a coward.
NoGuff 2 years ago
Yes he was you ignorant fuck. I think you have some reading to do. Start with the constitution or some of the federalist papers. The founding fathers were republicans, and advocated a republic as opposed to a democracy.
As I pointed out many times, communism = democracy. I support democracy.
Again, if the Founding Fathers hated monarchy and embraced republicanism, why the fuck didn't they just move to the Dutch Republic? Because they were cowards, at least according to your line of reasoning.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"The founding fathers were republicans, and advocated a republic as opposed to a democracy"
--Yes, I understand this. Our Republic is often referred to as a Democracy because we employ democratic methods in our Republic.
"communism = democracy"
--Yeah, a whole lot of democracy in the USSR, S. Korea, China, etc. Good point.
"Because they were cowards, at least according to your line of reasoning"
--Because they saw the ruling government of their land as a foreign government. So no moving
NoGuff 2 years ago
Our republic is wrongly referred to as a democracy. It's as simple as that. It's just to aid the illusion that the people actually exercise sovereignty. Woodrow Wilson started this trend.
South Korea? I think you have the wrong country. Either way, those countries were not "communist" nor did they ever claim to be.
You think the founding fathers wouldn't have led a revolution if the monarchy had been from America?
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"illusion that the people actually exercise sovereignty"
--The politicians cannot ignore the vote of the People. If they don't win the election, they're out.
"South Korea?"
--I meant No. Korea. And yes, they do/did claim to be.
"You think the founding fathers wouldn't have led a revolution if the monarchy had been from America?"
--After winning independence they did offer George Washington the position of King. Or didn't you know that?
NoGuff 2 years ago
But they can ignore what the people want them to do, meaning the power lies with the politicians.
No, they don't. They're called communist because they were run by a "communist party." By that logic, the dictatorship of Turkmenistan is a democracy, because it's run by the democratic party.
Not the founding fathers. A republic is a smarter choice anyway, because while it and a monarchy are both governments by the rich, it isn't as obvious in the case of a republic.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"But they can ignore what the people want them to do"
--As with any job you can ignore your boss. But there is a limit.
"They're called communist because"
--If memory serves, N. Korea calls itself a "democratic republic." So I guess you believe everything Communists and Dictators tell you?
"Not the founding fathers"
--Who else? They offered it to him twice, in fact. So go fuck off.
NoGuff 2 years ago
The people aren't the boss. They aren't bound to the will of the people AT ALL.
No, I know very well that North Korea is not democratic. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about when it comes to forms of government. Those countries were only ever called communist by western governments. I guess you believe everything our government tells you?
No they didn't, in fact. So go fuck off.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"They aren't bound to the will of the people AT ALL"
--Like I said, they can do that, but there is a limit. One of those is the election.
"I guess you believe everything our government tells you?"
--No, but my government didn't tell me N. Korea is Communist. Do you get all your information from the government? I don't.
"No they didn't, in fact. So go fuck off"
--HA! Again, the 5 year old rears his ugly head. Throws a tantrum every time someone else is right. Very sad.
NoGuff 2 years ago
yea zake is right, western country brainwash. Plus North Korea in reality is NOT communist, its a communist DICTATORSHIP. There is a huge difference
kookykoala333 2 years ago
Democratic methods in our republic? That doesn't even make sense.
This is from the same training manual mentioned earlier: "Our Constitutional fathers, familiar with the strength and weakness of both autocracy and democracy, with fixed principles definitely in mind, defined a representative republican form of government. They 'made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had founded a republic.'
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"Democratic methods in our republic? That doesn't even make sense"
--We vote for people to represent us. The representation part is the republic, the voting part is the democratic method. Are you high or just stupid?
"they had founded a republic"
--As I said before, YES I FUCKING UNDERSTAND ASSHOLE.
NoGuff 2 years ago
Yes, we vote for people to lead us. That is wholly contradictory to democracy. Are you high or just stupid?
Cool, stop making claims to the word democratic.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"That is wholly contradictory to democracy"
--We employ a democratic method to finding our representatives. You're not high, you're a 5-year-old.
NoGuff 2 years ago
I'm not so sure you know what democracy means. You're not stupid, you're brain dead.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"You're not stupid, you're brain dead"
--You're a 5 year old because you throw a fit when someone else has a valid point and you're not the only one who's right.
NoGuff 2 years ago
You're brain dead because you never have valid points and you're never right.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
is everyone a 5 year old to you? Well im saying this in a very civil way, communism CAN be run by the people, as long as it doesnt wander into communist dictatorship, then we'd have a problem
kookykoala333 2 years ago
"communism CAN be run by the people, as long as it doesnt wander into communist dictatorship"
--Okay, I'll treat you with respect.
Answer this please: Can you name one nation that tried Communism and it has worked out the way you just described? Where it worked out better than the USA.
Just provide one single example of the success of Communism.
I don't think you can. The philosophies of our political, economic, & judicial systems work best for people living & working together in freedom.
NoGuff 2 years ago
Hey, man, can you provide me with a SINGLE example of capitalist society in the southern hemisphere that guarantees food and health care for it's own population at a reasonable level? After that I'll answer your question
palaciodeinvierno 2 years ago
"provide me with a SINGLE example"
--A capitalist system is an economic system usually associated with a form of democracy.
Its not the purpose of govt to provide, let alone guarantee, food & health care for it's population. Get your head out of that Communist paradigm if you can.
Aside from that there are plenty of democratic nations in the southern hemisphere were the people have not all died due to the lack of government-provided food & health care. In fact, I think all of them.
NoGuff 2 years ago
Well, you answered respectfully so I'll try and do it too. First of all, capitalism and democracy can coexist but they are not co-determined:Spain has been a capitalist society AND a dictatorship for 40 years. You may find your own examples in Africa now a days, for example.Now, I don't know if we will agree in what is exactly to die of hunger, but you can check the facts out in the CIA world fact book -not a very communist source, is it?
palaciodeinvierno 2 years ago
"Spain has been a capitalist society AND a dictatorship for 40 years. You may find your own examples in Africa now a days, for example"
--Which is why I wrote "usually."
"I don't know if we will agree in what is exactly to die of hunger"
--I'm not sure what that really means, but I stand by my previous statement.
NoGuff 2 years ago
what does "usually" means to you? What I'm trying to do is give you examples of horrendous crimes against humanity performed under capitalist economies, even under so called democratic regimes to prove you that usually, capitalism is "usually" opposed to democracy, apart from the countries of the north (by this I mean Western Europe, Northern America, Australia and Japan). Why is that?Doesn't it look strange to you?Does it have to do with genetics or rather with capitalism as a global system?
palaciodeinvierno 2 years ago
"examples of horrendous crimes against humanity performed under capitalist economies"
--I think there have been worse crimes under other systems, like Socialism/Communism and Fascism/National Socialism. The USA didn't kill 50million Russians in 4 years, Socialism did. And capitalism hasn't killed millions in N. Korea by starvation, Communism has.
"capitalism is "usually" opposed to democracy"
--How can you even try to substantiate that?
NoGuff 2 years ago
"Horrendous crimes against humanity". I don't like to play the game of comparing death tolls, but are you actually telling me that there were more people killed in the USSR for political reasons than people killed in Africa for economic (=political) reasons?It doesn't make the USSR look much better, but, come on man, the USA has just killed between 500 thousand and 1million irakies in 5 years. Its not 50mil, but, hey! not too bad either. If we take just the last 50 years the picture gets scary
palaciodeinvierno 2 years ago
What's so easy about debating with Liberals is that all they have are lies.
Example: "the USA has just killed between 500 thousand and 1million irakies in 5 years."
NoGuff 2 years ago
I don't think calling me a liberal and a lier helps understanding. What part of 500.000 to 1.000.000 iraki deaths is a lie?
Ok, let's take an ultraconservative death toll... 200.000? 100.000? And lets say a accept that. Does it make the invasion look any better?Does it prove that capitalism is better than whatever backwatered way of organizing the country that might be in place under Saddam?And don't even think about saying that I'm defending Saddam,cos that's not the case.
palaciodeinvierno 2 years ago
"What part of 500.000 to 1.000.000 iraki deaths is a lie?"
--The number, you nimrod. Where did you get that figure?
"let's take an ultraconservative death toll... 200.000? 100.000?"
--Again, those are your numbers. They have nothing to do with reality, you just made them up.
"I'm defending Saddam"
--Oh, it's "Saddam," huh? He was such a good buddy that you two were on a first-name basis? Wow, how was that friendship? Please tell.
NoGuff 2 years ago
Here's one from Alexander Hamilton:
"We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy... It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"We are a Republican Government"
--As I just explained.
"no position is more false than this"
--As I said before.
NoGuff 2 years ago
As you said before? Before you said we lived in a democracy, and that democracy is the best system.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"Before you said we lived in a democracy, and that democracy is the best system"
--I explained the use of that term. Do I have to go over it again? How many times, just so I know and can prepare for it. Thanks
NoGuff 2 years ago
You think you explained the use of the term. Before that, anyway, you said this:
Democracy isn't perfect, but it's the best thing going, and it's the most fair thing going.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"Democracy isn't perfect, but it's the best thing going"
--Meant as Democracy (our employment of democratic methods in our Republic) is great compared to Socialism, Communism, dictatorships, etc.
If you bend everything your friends say out of shape and into things they never said, how do you still have friends? Besides that, this is a way to have a discussion. This is just you nit-picking everything people say and accuse them of saying something they didn't. Well, hooray for you. Good job.
NoGuff 2 years ago
Employment of "democratic methods" in a republic is not great in comparison to democracy.
ZakeD3 2 years ago
"Employment of "democratic methods" in a republic is not great"
--Meaning you think the idea of voting is stupid. Good one.
NoGuff 2 years ago