Sad about all the accident deaths on take off and landing, seems that Lockheed could have learned something from the F86 (6/3wing) and increased the size of the wing or put canards to increase lift!
It is actually the simple event of two differing airflows coming together and causing a whistle! What we have is two airflows, one heated and faster from the engine, mixed with a slower and cooler airflow, from around the engine, forced out through the exhaust. The result is a whistle. Some call it a howl. What it really is, is J-79 installed in F-104. The howl is different in the 104 from the F-4 due to the differing amount of bypass airflow.
@jeoverv I see. When were TDY to Rammstein, the Luftwaffe pilots would slip up on you when you were on the ramp working and give it a squirt of power and make it howl. They really got a kick out of it. I asked one of the ramp rats what it was and he told me it was the BLCS. I stand corrected, (as does he, apparently). So be it. Thank you sir.
Hallo ja ik had toen die dag in oktober 2000 wel mijn best gedaan om er iets moois van te maken ook in de wetenschap dat de starfighter 4 jaar later bij de Italianen eruit zouw gaan .
deze kisten komen van het 4 stormo en dat veld ligt bij de stad Grosseto . In oktober 2004 was daar de laatste afscheidsvlucht van deze gaven bakken met hun gejank .
jammer dat het afgelopen is nu vliegen ze daar met 2 squadrons eurofigthers .
@CodenameWhistler00 Actually, the J79 was in a planned budget variant of the Fighting Falcon. A prototype was built and flown, but it never caught on.
I like the venerable ole 104 whats funny is its flight characteristics are similar to the F16 which replaced it after the Phantoms where decommissioned in US service
This is the soundtrack of my childhood.. I grew up in Lillestrøm Norway, near Kjeller airforce base, with all the heavy maintenance of the Royal norwegian airforce material, ranging from helicopters, c 130s to F 16s .. The fighter before the Fighting Falcon was the Starfighter, and I will never forget its howling sound:-) Thanks for posting.
What is the pilot doing to the controls to make the motor howl like it is between 2:50 and 3:00 minutes? Is the howl necessary or is it a method just to make a howl? Can it make a howl in flight? Do other motors make howls...?
@sanfranciscobay Watch my next video in about 3 hours, I explane the cause of the sound and what is happening! I've built models of the F-104 exhaust to show!
I was an aviation machinist mate back in the early 1970s aboard the US carrier Independence. The J-79 was my favorite to work on and I will never forget the sound of that turbojet engine. I'm partially deaf because of my work on the engine test bed but I look at that as coming with the job. Excellent video. Thank you for posting it.
Sad about all the accident deaths on take off and landing, seems that Lockheed could have learned something from the F86 (6/3wing) and increased the size of the wing or put canards to increase lift!
will4ward 2 weeks ago
The Sound of Freedom !
Thank You
J79GE19 2 weeks ago
The howl you hear (for instance at 2:55) is actually the BLCS blowing compressor air over the flaps.
routan1 1 month ago
@routan1
It is actually the simple event of two differing airflows coming together and causing a whistle! What we have is two airflows, one heated and faster from the engine, mixed with a slower and cooler airflow, from around the engine, forced out through the exhaust. The result is a whistle. Some call it a howl. What it really is, is J-79 installed in F-104. The howl is different in the 104 from the F-4 due to the differing amount of bypass airflow.
(By Mike Vivian, former USAF F-104 pilot)
jeoverv 3 weeks ago
@jeoverv I see. When were TDY to Rammstein, the Luftwaffe pilots would slip up on you when you were on the ramp working and give it a squirt of power and make it howl. They really got a kick out of it. I asked one of the ramp rats what it was and he told me it was the BLCS. I stand corrected, (as does he, apparently). So be it. Thank you sir.
routan1 3 weeks ago
@jeoverv
...and Mike Vivian would know - a fellow F-104 jock with my dad and truly a great man. Can't imagine anyone knowing the Starfighter better'n him.
pdqcarrera 2 weeks ago
yes it is music in the air .
willemstarfighter 2 months ago 2
love that sound.
Bigfunkytown 2 months ago
Hallo ja ik had toen die dag in oktober 2000 wel mijn best gedaan om er iets moois van te maken ook in de wetenschap dat de starfighter 4 jaar later bij de Italianen eruit zouw gaan .
deze kisten komen van het 4 stormo en dat veld ligt bij de stad Grosseto . In oktober 2004 was daar de laatste afscheidsvlucht van deze gaven bakken met hun gejank .
jammer dat het afgelopen is nu vliegen ze daar met 2 squadrons eurofigthers .
willemstarfighter 2 months ago
This video owner needs to shut the fuck up we get it you like the starfighter.
superskullmaster 3 months ago
@CodenameWhistler00 Actually, the J79 was in a planned budget variant of the Fighting Falcon. A prototype was built and flown, but it never caught on.
1ofDawnmist 4 months ago
Ready fore a new mission you mean .
the starfigthers of this squadron 20 gruppo are the boys to learn other pilots
how to fly this nice bird .
they came from Grosseto a city laying in the norht of Italy .
I have visted this airbase once in 2003 and in june 2004 .
now they flying with the eurofigther there by 2 squadrons : 9 and 20 gruppo .
but give me this awsome TF-104GM with his howling sound .
there is nothing better than this aircraft in my opinion .
willemstarfighter 4 months ago
Ready fol long range trip.
telosfd 5 months ago
I like the venerable ole 104 whats funny is its flight characteristics are similar to the F16 which replaced it after the Phantoms where decommissioned in US service
1ordequis 5 months ago
yes thats right in my opinion the 2 seater is the most beautiful version of the F104
and furhter the J-79 engine that produced that nice sound .
the starfighter is the best to look at .
willemstarfighter 7 months ago
LOL at the guy standing on the very top of the ladder. :-)
rc300xs 10 months ago
yes i filmed it because of the sound of the J-79 engine .
this sound is the best i ever heard of a plane .
normaly i maded pictures but i had bought a camera ten years ago to go to make
films about the F-104 .
I know that the air force of Norway used F104 by the airbase Bodo .
yes the starfigther is a very nice looking plane .
willemstarfighter 1 year ago
This is the soundtrack of my childhood.. I grew up in Lillestrøm Norway, near Kjeller airforce base, with all the heavy maintenance of the Royal norwegian airforce material, ranging from helicopters, c 130s to F 16s .. The fighter before the Fighting Falcon was the Starfighter, and I will never forget its howling sound:-) Thanks for posting.
Ahuxley68 1 year ago
this TF-104GM is the best/greatest in the air !!!
willemstarfighter 1 year ago
This is the Merlin of the jets.
Stover36 1 year ago
I love that sound and these old warbirds!
trav1971 1 year ago
Hello sir
this howl is only bij this kind of engine and that was the reason to film it at that time .
yes when this bird is in the air you hear also the howl .
it depends how much he used the throtte in the cockpit .
you like my films there with the starfigthers ?
you have to see mij films with this TF-104GM at Grosseto .
look at youtube by mij name .
willemstarfighter 1 year ago
Questions about the howling sound.
What is the pilot doing to the controls to make the motor howl like it is between 2:50 and 3:00 minutes? Is the howl necessary or is it a method just to make a howl? Can it make a howl in flight? Do other motors make howls...?
sanfranciscobay 1 year ago
@sanfranciscobay Watch my next video in about 3 hours, I explane the cause of the sound and what is happening! I've built models of the F-104 exhaust to show!
Helicopterpilot16 1 year ago
@sanfranciscobay yes other motors make howls. How. I am Sacajewea
itsjustme2919 5 months ago
@AgentJayZ: Right on the mark, man! You couldn't have said it better: the J-79 GE 11A is a goddamn hot-rod jet!
aldopeer 1 year ago
yes thats a long time ago that week there was a rotation with 5xTF-104GM from
4stormo/Grosseto/Italy . they flew missions with the F-16 from OCU .
this day was the best in my life because of the sound of the J-79 engine and the howling sound when they went in the air .
willemstarfighter 1 year ago
Excellent video, wish I was there!
Jaliya48 1 year ago
I was an aviation machinist mate back in the early 1970s aboard the US carrier Independence. The J-79 was my favorite to work on and I will never forget the sound of that turbojet engine. I'm partially deaf because of my work on the engine test bed but I look at that as coming with the job. Excellent video. Thank you for posting it.
JonMichael001 1 year ago
@JonMichael001
Hello sir
that is very nice to read that you worked with the J-79 engine .
my hobby is to collecting everything from the F104 .
and thats was the reason to film this stuff specially the sound of this incredible engine . I love it very much .
so enjoy all my starfighter movies on youtoube .
Willem.
willemstarfighter 1 year ago
@willemstarfighter You've got a great hobby!
Cheers!
Jaliya48 1 year ago
yes that was the reason to film this aircraft because of the great sound that the J-79 engine produce .
willemstarfighter 2 years ago
gota love the J79 somke tral
Duke1822 2 years ago
yes that howling sound is normal by this type of starfigther also the F-104G had this howling sound .
We fly here in the Netherlands from 1962 until 1984 with this aircraft .
willemstarfighter 2 years ago
I always wondered if that incredible howl was normal.
Now I can see that it really is.
The J79 is a real hot-rod of a jet, and you can't get much better than that!
AgentJayZ 2 years ago
hi, the movies is excellent, thanks ★★★★★
vladimir2366fa 2 years ago