I note that Searl has been in the US for well over the 6 months permitted by a tourist visa. So, he is now living there illegally, or Fernando has 'smuggled' him in under one of the exceptions. Hmm, which of those will later look more embarassing to the US: 'person of exceptional talent' or 'businessman investing in the US'? Perhaps someone should ask Homeland Security which category better suits a known saboteur.
@RealityCalling Interesting admission, concerning the IGV, from Searl in his latest 'document', "I have not been saying nothing about it for some time, due to the fact that there was nothing of worth to say."
Well there never was, what with it being imaginary.
BTW, I suspect that he has returned simply because Fernando did not want to pay his medical bills.
@RealityCalling Of course, 'his' document has been plagiarised from "Pilot's guide to flight emergency procedures" by Birch and Bramson. Still, it is gratifying to see that I am still well inside the moronic little conman's head.
@RealityCalling AND he is again boasting of his skills as a pilot. Odd then that, according to the Civil Aviation Authority, he does not hold a licence. At least he seems to have dropped the ridiculous lie that he was piloting large aircraft before he started to learn to fly small ones.
"Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized to accept, as trustee for the United States Government, from Garabed K.T.Giragossian an assignment of the right to utilize for the Government's own use his discovery or invention to be known as the 'Garabed'."
In other words, the entire US government was (1918) once fooled by a Searl-style conman.
I see that they are trying to sell the scam in Australia now. The usual unconvincing nonsense of course. They cannot even get the long-con 'stage-setting' right, what with Searl's own words being misquoted on one page and incorrect mathematics on another page.
Of Course! Flowerbower! J R R Searl's arch-nemesis. Thanks to you the inside of my monitor screen was covered in his saliva. Is he a fnutter or a conman or both?
@daviddalbylive It is no wonder that the economy is in such a mess when moronic mini-Madoffs like you are looking after our money. I dare say that Searl (sic) could sell YOU the Brooklyn Bridge.
@daviddalbylive I notice that you cannot even manage equations: you must be the only person who does not use Bayesian methods in a so-called expert system. Moreover, I have not seen such childish coding since the days of Reverse-Polish notation. Still, well done, you have clearly 'been on a course'. What was it? Erhard seminar training? Or are there newer 'self-orientation' scams around these days?
@flowerbower hahaha ... it's for beginners dumb ass ... hey while you physicists are scratching your nuts, real world experiments in cold fusion are revolutionizing the world of physics with people like Frank Znidarsic's brilliant work ... of courswe dumb asses like you couldn't invent a paper bag ... hahaha.
@daviddalbylive I think that beginners need a better start than that!
But you really know your crackpots, don't you? Isn't Znidarsic also into antigravity; the other 'big thing' in pseudoscientific fraud? Let me introduce you to Myron Evans: I think that his arrogance, conceit ... and poor mathematical ability will appeal to you. BTW, as an investment expert and dupe of pseudoscience, how much have you invested in Searl and/or cold fusion? Nothing, right?
@flowerbower you have been duped because the word pseudoscience was created by banksters to stop people investigating certain areas that could ruin their profitable businesses which means your the crackpot. If alternative energies are so pseudo why have banksters gone to great lenghts to surpress and even kill their inventors. dum dum.
@daviddalbylive No, it was invented by real scientists who were fed up with fraudsters who were usurping the authority of science.
Ah, if only 'sinister forces' WERE killing off cranks: nothing would make me happier.
And if financiers are into suppression, how do YOU explain the fact that the multimillionaire pension-fund (sic) manager, Richard Balding, was on the board of directors of one of Searl's dodgy companies?
@flowerbower Just what I thought we have an idiot who doesn't know what is happening in the world of science behind the scenes been watching the bbc again have we? which means you have been a good slave and taken your flouride and mercury poisons which explains why your a dumb ass. hahaha.
@flowerbower hahaha your so dumb it's unbelievable, a conspiracy is 2 or more people planning for their own benefot and detriment to others ... that happens everyday ... companies conspire to rig prices and banksters conspire to rig markets ... proven main stream media facts ... you really have no clue ... so go back to sleep and be a good little slave .... hahaha.
@flowerbower My first language is Alien ... Sirian to be exact ... Zar Zu Ma (heartfelt thanks) so Selamat Ja (be in joy) great talking to you because it keeps me on your toes ;-)
@daviddalbylive No no you appear to be only fluent in deranged with a working knowledge of gibberish. Unfortunately babble fish dosen't translate those
@fizzguts hahaha another dummy no doubt you believe the Equations that say the Bumble Bee cannot fly as well. Well I saw one last week defying your limited perception of reality.
@daviddalbylive And what equations would those be? Have you ever seen them, checked them? Who exactly wrote them down, and where? No, they are just part of the 'tool box' of factoids that go with being a fully-fledged wing-nut. It is funny how you nutters swallow all of that guff without question, and yet accuse scientists of being brainwashed.
BTW, it also used to be claimed that the flight of certain birds 'defied physics'.
@daviddalbylive Bwahahahaha another dummy who doesn't understand Reynolds Numbers which explain how a bee flies. Or is it just that you get your information from Christmas crackers?
Hint read study and for ucks sake stop looking at the websites of over unity flying saucer kooks like old bandy legs. As you have demonstrated it rots your mind
@daviddalbylive Where did you read that? I do have a passing interest in scams of the De Bono type; you know, the one where some simple puzzle from the back of a 1950's comic is recycled as a 'brain-training tool'. Courses based upon them are very popular among employers who want to be seen to be providing 'ongoing training', and even more popular among employees who relish the prospect of goofing-off for a few days at the company's expense. All pseudo-education for nitwits, of course.
@daviddalbylive Hey smart guy... How about you provide us with even just one single peice of solid evidence that ANYTHING John Searl has ever said has been true? Just one peice of solid evidence is all I ask. Failure to do this shall be seen as an admission on your part of being incorrect.
@daviddalbylive Oh and incase you were wondering... lame excuses and baseless insults to change the subject like what you gave flowerbower down there will also be seen as an admission of ignorance on your part.
@daviddalbylive Go clean some windows, and do some book-keeping on the side when, of course, you are not busy pushing get-rich-quick schemes. It is funny how you 'successful investors' never seem to be able to get by without 'selling the secret' to others. Reminds me of perpetual-motion inventors: their machines never work, but they sell plenty of books and plans. Check out Dennis Lee and improve your game.
Oil companies do not give a fuck if someone brings out an alternative energy, they can still collect billions of dollars for the next 100 years regardless,
This is a typical excuse that fuckwits use when their fucken free energy device doesn't work, and they want your money. They think it sound legit.
Joseph Newman,....
....John Searl SEG,
....Lutec,
....Prendev, ....and many others are all fucken stupid fuckwits...
@ImMichaelTaylor I have been likening him to Madoff for years, but Searl seems to have invented a new con: not Ponzi, not Pyramid (Aircraft Game, etc.) but the 'never quite finished revolutionary invention' scam.
Interesting. The scammers at mag-power have built Fernado's "impress the idiots ring and roller" devices put them on you tube but they offer for a mere $100 the plans so you can build them yourself and of course get free energy.
To 'stargate': I spent a lot of time replying to your last private message, and then found that you had closed your account. Perhaps you could let me know if you come back in some new incarnation.
@abm3152 Yes. Google street-level confirms it. So why are they so careful to keep it secret in those swallowcommand clips? I suggest that it is a matter of 'suckers by invitation only'.
. . . . Seems like Fernando Morris does all the swallowing, at "Swallow Command" head quarters. Please Do Not give Money to these fuckwits. If you do, Morris will start choking. Thank you . . . .
@Kcirtap792 What a conveniently topsy-turdy (sic) world you live in: skeptics are expected to build devices which the scam-artists themselves cannot build; those who know nothing about physics pontificate about scientific evidence of which they are pig-ignorant and theories which they cannot possibly understand, and experts know less than the empty-headed. With the perpetual absence of any valid evidence for Searl's claims, of course I can insist that it cannot work. You are a fool.
@Kcirtap792 As I have pointed out many times before: the SEG resembles a roller-bearing, and it is a little-known fact that passing a high radial current will cause such a bearing to rotate. It will, however, rapidly overheat, seize up, glow and then probably explode in a shower of sparks. I say, 'little known', but it was in fact well known to low-level electrical workers decades ago ... you know, during Searl's 'formative years'.
I wonder why Searl Magnetics is so secretive about its location? All of that film by Lockerman, carefully avoiding showing that huge street number on the outside wall, isn't that a strange strategy for a legit business? What are shoppers supposed to do, drive around Spring Valley in the hope of spotting the buildings seen on YouTube?
@Kcirtap792 SR-71. First flight 1962 revealed with fanfare in 1965. The wobbly goblin was hidden for 7 years and project Aurora is a conspiracy theorists wet dream fantasy. I'm 100% sure you are wrong as nothing you have mentioned used principles that weren't well know.
I think that Searl is about to do the planet an immense favour ... by leaving it! That galloping obesity, which the sequence of vids at swallowcommand reveals, cannot be healthy at his age.
@flowerbower - the movement is just waiting for him to crap out. He has gotten so senile in his later years that he is actually hurting their propaganda. I looked through his last pdf on his website and it is a mishmash of him taking flying lessons with pictures of tools used for a Cesarian birth. Once they have him gone and can use him as some sort of martyr, then they will ramp up on trying to get more money. Anyone following that fool is obviously a bigger fool.
@Kcirtap792 I am willing to believe that there is 'secret technology', but not that there is 'secret science'. For instance, it was pretty obvious (to any physicist) how to make an atomic bomb before the Manhattan project; it was the precise engineering techniques that were new (and secret). Science cannot be developed in secret because new discoveries become common knowledge before anyone realises their significance. So, no antigravity, no back-engineering of flying saucers etc.
I must admit, this fucken John Searl SEG fucking Crap is everywhere, when do you find the fucken time to put all this fucking bullshit on YouTube. Shouldn't you SEG fuckwitts be doing something else besides filmimg fucking bullshit all the time.
I still think, if John Searl, (SEG), shoved a fucken neodymium magnet up his ass, he might have had a better chance to making it work. Try it, and it will probably work....
I can't stop fucking laughing,.... and I spilt my fucking coffee....
09-134AD Supreme Court issues final orders on Cycclone Magnetic Engines
US-based CME operated in the Gold Coast and Lismore and claimed it had developed an engine that produced power through the use of magnets and required no fuel. CME displayed a video on its website which showed the engine appearing to operate. The Court found that the engine could not work.
Perendev magnet motor inventor arrested for embezzlement
24 Apr 2010 ... Perendev magnet motor inventor arrested for embezzlement. After declaring bankruptcy in Germany, Mike Brady rented a house at Lake Zurich in ...
pesn.com/.../9501640_Michael_J_Brady_arrested_for_embezzlement/ - Cached - Similar
It would be highly recommended to upload a YouTube video confession on this SEG scam within 7 weeks. If this confession is not produced within this time, fraud investigation will be in full force.
If the YouTube confession is provided within this time, NO further action will be taken.
Times Up....... 60 years is long enough for this scam.
Check out the recent podcast, Sailing beyond Knowledge (aka Sailing beyond Sanity) #42, in which the resident airhead, Carlita, repeatedly refers to him as SIR John Searl. Strangely enough, neither Searl nor Lockerman (his new lapdog) corrected her.
Perhaps they know something. After all, the Queen awarded a Civil List Pension to another perpetual-motion/antigravity crackpot, and the Royal Society awarded a prestigious prize to his biographer and co-author, so who knows ...
@flowerbower What??? lol who was the pension and prestigious prizes awarded to? It's possible because Nasa gets involved with cracpot ideas such as reactionless drives from Eric Laithwaite, or Roger Shawyer and his em drive being awarded a research grant by people that don't seem to have a clue.
@BarriosGroupie The person who got the pension is Myron Wyn Evans (check out his unconsciously hilarious daily blog via aias dot us). His biographer, Kerry Pendergast, was awarded a Hauksbee medal by the RS.
It seems that neither the Queen nor the RS know anything about physics.
@BarriosGroupie And if you want to see REALLY 'glittering prizes', check out his favourite genealogist, Sir Arthur Turner-Thomas, V. C., G. C., K. G. (Wales). The problem is that, for a start, he does not appear on any list of Victoria Cross winners. How does Evans explain that? "It was awarded in secret", haha. Mr(?) Turner-Thomas also seems to live in the same village as does a namesake pop-festival promoter who was interviewed by police over missing cash. What an embarrassing coincidence!
@nickle57 It is hard to believe that the scam is progressing in some sense. I am amazed that the Americans let him in: don't they know that he has a conviction for sabotaging power supplies? Some people might term that 'terrorist activity'.
@flowerbower I didn't know he was over here in the US. There are a lot of people upset about gas prices so scams are showing up daily on ways to get around paying for gas. He will get busted and probably move on. What happened to his crap in Asia? Wasn't he going to build it over there?
@nickle57 I am amazed at how lax you all are over there; one of your nutters would need a pretty good excuse to stay here for more than 3 months. Even being 'self-employed' or a 'company director' would not be good enough unless he kept hundreds of thousands of pounds on deposit. But there is Searl, living in California and with an 'official address' in Las Vegas.
Look at their equipment: it is all standard stuff. Where is that supposedly essential Thai magnetizer?
@flowerbower The U.S. is a big place. Lunatics like Searl can surely find some nook in Southern California to camp out without a great deal of scrutiny. But it wouldn't have happened without the help of his U.S. supporters. Maybe they should be labeled terrorist sympathizers. I can't see Mr. Searl obtaining the pole patterns he describes using the magnetizing equipment shown in recent videos. But it's all just for a show, isn't it.
What IS Morris trying to say in the latest vid posted on Swallowcommand? Does he really think that a radial current is driving the motor which he himself built? Didn't he wonder why he was putting all of those electromagnets around the outside? Doesn't he know that he COULD make it run (for a while) by using a radial current and replacing the electromagnets with a concentic conducting ring? Where DID he study electrical engineering?
I see that, in his latest interview, Searl now gives - as the excuse for not patenting - the ludicrous reason that it is too dangerous because anyone could build a SEG and the 'magnetic pulse would spread out and destroy electrical equipment'. He must have been reading about EMP, and decided to tack that onto his tired spiel.
I don't believe that Lockerman can be deemed an innocent dupe any more: he now actively lies about that silly motor and says that it runs without any power supply!
From Wiki: "In January 1961, Carr was convicted of "the crime of selling securities without registering the same" in Oklahoma, and fined $5,000 ... He was denied an appeal on March 1, 1961. Carr could not pay the fine, and served part of a 14-year jail term. After his sentence ended, Carr lived quietly in Pittsburgh until his death in 1982."
Sleep well, John-boy and Fernando ... until they catch up with you too.
i get a kick out of reading through the edits page. you should post links to stuff here. do you have links to the actual? or is this it? lol,. wow > John Roy Robert Searl did survive his ordeal of being born, which was not his choice or desire, but
accepted the fact that he actually existed because on the eleventh day of June in the year of our Lord
1932, his date of birth was actually recorded as being alive, proving yet again that miracles though
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 Unfortunately, he did not survive without brain damage. It seems that a boyhood of being called stupid has resulted in this over-reaction, and in his predilection for adopting unearned titles and qualifications and claiming to have invented things which do not, and cannnot, exist. However, my real interest is in outing the supposedly intelligent people who eagerly 'build extensions' onto his sand-based castle. THEY are the real fools!
you can't use this video as proof of a news article? I would like to see the real article when I click a wiki link! do you have any actual proof? most of what I've read sounds like speculation in the edits. funny I watch this and wiki links back? vendetta? well i'm going back to wiki and read a bit more,.. :0) yep I do my own snooping around!
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 It is funny how people believe Searl's ridiculous claims without ever asking for proof, but expect 'chapter and verse' for any criticism. When I first uploaded this vid, it was possible to go straight to Times Online and see the original. However, it has now been made 'pay to view', so it is no longer so painless. But I suppose that you would still argue that that would still just be an 'image' and not real newsprint!
@flowerbower I don't believe his claims or yours without proof. anyways I can't remember how I stumbled across this but it was pretty interesting. and what I think about wiki, it's a good starting point for info, but,.. well we both know anyone can edit wiki. just thought this circular proof was kinda odd,.. I may look at this a little closer one day again when bored. till then, have at it. :0)
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 There comes a point where 'keeping an open mind' merely equates to 'having an empty head'. How can my relating mundane criminal proceedings, and pointing out that Searl's claims would contradict overwhelmingly well-attested physical laws, possibly be placed on the same level as his complete failure to produce any evidence worthy of the name and his making ridiculous statements; such as the one that he built 41 flying saucers for the US Airforce. Are you on drugs??
@flowerbower , if he built one good for him if not, Oh well. did I say he built 41 flying saucers? are you on drugs? you say he's a fraud and when I check your evidence it links back to you? where can I pay to see this article? lol
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 He built a wooden model. That's it. I did not say that you said that he built 41 flying saucers; that is simply one of the articles of faith which all true Searl worshippers have to accept. The dates and sources of the newspaper articles are clearly given. Just go to The Times online site.
@flowerbower , you said he said, then implied i was on drugs? as though I'm the one who made that claim. personally I'm more worried about the reactors in Japan leaking, but if I do decide to become a Searl fanatic I'll be back! ;0) then you can give me hell, and visa versa o.k.
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 I made the drugs comment as I thought that it was the kindest explanation for your lack of common sense, and inability to apply coherent thought processes to an obvious scam.
Laymen over-react whenever 'radiation' is mentioned. If they looked at the figures, and reacted consistently, they would stop eating bananas and evacuate regions such as Cornwall!
BTW, how did the ludicrous term, China Syndrome, ever gain currency?
@flowerbower , well I guess you just didn't get it? who cares, I'm not obsessing over this Searl guy. he has not scammed me. you act like he's scammed you! lol,. talk about common sense. o'k layman what's the worst isotope? drugs? banana's? I guess your infatuation with Searl is more important than a (possible) full melt down of a reactor? that will kill people. talk about an empty head, you can't even take a hint. hey you wanna buy a U.F.O.? I'm selling them for $50.00 this week only! lmfao
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 Oh for fucks sake, the classic not an argument "because we haven't solved all the problems of the world we can't take apart old bandy legs CON"
OK Turn about Mr Flying what are you doing about the melt down in Japan? Hello? Silence? Mumble look at feet shuffle?
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 Yep Mr Flying you are doing, just like I said, NOTHING. So don't get all "well you have to solve a nuclear reactor incident first" on me. I am trying to shut this scam down plus a couple of other youtube hucksters and charlatens and that stands on it's own merits. You don't like that, couldn't give a toss. Raise some nitwit poorly thought out non argument expect it to come back at you x 10
@fizzguts ,.. OMG you must be bored, jeeze another youtube hero? lol . like I said before,.. wow! I really don't care if he built a ufo or not. big deal, at least his video's have some entertainment value. and learn to comprehend why don't you,.. worrying about something= "well you have to solve a nuclear reactor incident first"? dork
@flowerbower , Searl seems to have already built one. (all them circles spinning like mad) and since you put it that way,.... (0: > you win.< :0)
I haven't seen his ufo yet, should be pretty entertaining, err,.. I mean fraudulent. and I'll bet it's also a circle, wow your really amazing! you just made me realize every thing is connected if I think about it long enough.
I just hope they don't lock me up for watching a wooden ufo!
Is he "all there"? I saw a youtube vid of him calling himself Professor and in an academic gown. I wonder if he is sixpence less than the full shilling? I am sure he means well however.
@sorova He is 'crazy like a fox'; a conman from way back. He does not mean well. He wants only to cheat the gullible, and he gets very annoyed when thwarted.
@flowerbower needs to take a day off haha!! Sounds like you need to cut lose and get some RandR !! Seriously why spend time bashing someone! You carnt tell people how to live/believe its best to set an example and be the man to show the way. Even if Searl is a fraud let people fall for it! They might learn a lesson that you could never tell them about!
@dbnstrikeman My last comment was made a week ago. That seems to be a fairly leisurely rate of work! As I have explained before, I am using Searl as a sort of touchstone for exposing apparently more believable 'authorities', such as the guy who works for Lockheed yet thinks that Searl is genuine. By demonstrating just how crooked and ludicrous Searl is, I can undermine and lampoon anyone who cannot see the truth of the situation. Just wait for the book; it will expose 'idiots in high places'.
I note that he has now started mentioning me in his videos. Not in full, yet, but that will come. I expect that he is afraid that, like the proverbial Devil, I shall appear if he talks abut me.
The last few videos posted on swallowcommand reveal an interesting phenomenon: one by one, the marvellous claims are falling away. There is no more talk of flying to the Moon, no more talk of 'energy from nowhere'. They now cluster around that ludicrous induction motor (similar to Wheatstone's seminal 19th-century patent) while Searl misinterprets electromagnetic effects which were known to Arago. No wonder it all looks like a conjuring trick, complete with 'dope from the audience'.
I do not believe one word you say FB..and I know that other Human Beings are onto you. Thanks for all your help bring light to your own fantasies. You have empowered people like me to know the ways of obfuscators of truth like your self. Just checking in sir, hope you have a nice day and can live with yourself where you''ll be taken ;-) Peace (I happen to believe that there is still hope for you)
@JohnWilliamCornett I imagine that, among you and your friends, 'human being' is just about the only attribute which you possess. Perhaps you aspire to more, but I see no sign of it.
The concept of truth is meaningless without evidence to back it up. How pathetic of you to think that the 'word' of a conman, faked UFO photographs and century-old physics demonstrations are evidence.
Searl clearly states in "THE SEARL STORY" dvd that he won his case against the electrcity board and charges were dropped. As we can see from your video Searl is a very bad and outrageous liar as he went to jail for this. We can never trust Searl and he should eb prosecuted for fraud in his claims and lies IMHO.
@truthseekers666 Yes indeed. One might also ask how someone, who is the director of 3 companies (all registered in notoriously secretive 'tax-havens'), who travels widely and who has a flat (subsidised by tax-payers) stuffed with expensive gadgets, supposedly manages all of that on a pension.
So what if he is a nut case trying to sabotage electrical companies, does not really discredit his supposed device? If one want to expose him as a fraud then surely one should try to find fault with his proposed invention.
@robertk1968 No, but it discredits him and, since 'his word' is the only evidence that he has to offer, that then leaves nothing at all. There is no independent evidence that any anomalous events have ever occurred, and the 'supportive evidence' from others ranges from 'other crackpots jumping on the bandwagon' to 'tacking on any item of scientific news that might fool the layman'. BTW, apart from the theft and malicious damage, he is also guilty of forgery and desertion of a military post.
@flowerbower Point taken, but I only wish a machine like that did exist and I think something simular does somewhere in this world, but , as you put it, ' no independent evidence that any anomalous events have ever occurred' from John Searl all these years. Ahh Well, back to my search....................
@robertk1968 People have been thinking that it would be 'nice if such machines existed' for hundreds of years. I can urge you only to study the history of the subject, because the same 'ritual' of claims plus 'authoritative support' plus ultimate failure has been played out again and again down the centuries. The one steady beacon throughout has been the guiding principle that, 'there is no such thing as a free lunch' as far as the physical world is concerned.
@flowerbower The phrase 'no such thing as a free lunch' to me also suggests enslavement, there is evidence that people like Tesla, Raymond Royal Rife, Reich and many others did indeed have emerging concepts and theories that were suppressed and sometimes completely sabotaged by those who knew better. I do not believe that the scientific communities, the foundations that sponsor them as well as other influencial powers that be are as pure as the driven snow.
@robertk1968 As soon as anyone mentions any of those people, especially Tesla, I groan inwardly because the speaker has outed himself as someone who automatically sides with any underdog without first taking the precaution of ensuring that it is not rabid. They were never suppressed; their ideas never worked but could still do harm by causing patients to forego scientifically proven treatments. It is ironic BTW that pseudoscience can flourish in truly suppressive environments, cf. Lysenko
@robertk1968 Seems perfectly clear to me, unless you were unaware of Tesla's excursion into 'alternative medicine'. I also wonder at the claim of 'suppression', given that followers of Reich (such as De Meo) are still pushing his orgone nonsense.
But then, conspiracy-theorizing is so easy, isn't it?
My point about Trofim Lysenko was that he flourished in Stalin's Russia. In fact, Stalin killed off all of the real scientists to stop them from criticizing Lysenko. It ruined Russian agriculture.
@AZLuvV No, he was 44. Don't worry: they are the same person - his nephew still uses the 'le' spelling. Why the name change? Who knows - perhaps to hide some other criminality in his past. A few years ago, he was claiming that he had been an airline pilot (he has no licence at all according to the CAA) and posted some flight logs in order to prove it. These were obvious forgeries as the pertinent part was in different ink and he had forgotten about the change in his spelling of his name, haha.
Watching Lockerman's videos is informative. I think as well as white van man there is a white collar version, white-board man. Stand any idiot in front of a whiteboard and they can't help themselves. Before you know it the hockum will be half baking nicely.
@BFKate One worries about the damage done to his acting career but, of course, compared to the actors who are scientologists, this is a relatively mild affliction. I recall that Gloria Swanson once had dealings with a Portuguese antigravity inventor back in the 60s; in between backing crackpot cancer-therapists such as Priore.
I was catching up on the progress of Perendev Magnetic Motors, only to be pleasantly surprised to learn the so called inventor Mike Brady has been slung in the clink in Germany on charges of embezzlement. Searly should be concerned.
@BFKate The Germans would lock Searl up simply for using fake academic titles. They take such things very seriously. The Americans, OTOH, have been brought up by Hollywood to think that real scientists are all like Searl!
"John Searl Arrives in the US" (swallowcommand). Well, they COULD have photoshopped that pic a little so that he didn't look quite so much like a toothless vampire in a straitjacket!
I've now passed a couple of hours reading the comments to this video. Fascinating and on occasion illuminating. Does anyone ever thank you for helping them out of their delusion?
Wow...Since 2007 Searle has been building his fraudulent device and it's still not finished. This is despite signing on some Thai criminals to help him scam money from people and many, many claims of "disclosure" conferences, public demonstrations, etc. None of these ever happened and no "SEG" in sight. Meanwhile, beamshiploser keeps banging his pots. You'd think that by now people would have wised-up; so at this point they deserve all the ridicule they get.
@Blndrfist In fact, he has been doing that since the sixties and entire teams of supporters have come and gone since then. It is more like a religious cult than a scam (as an atheist, I equate the two of them anyway): the followers believe, even in absence of any objective proof, and proselytise on his behalf. I don't know why there is pressure to allow prisoners and mental patients to vote: Searl and his followers already have that right, lol. It is lucky that we have no direct democracy.
@flowerbower Good points all. For the average believer idiot, yes it seems very much like a cult. I suspect that for frauds like the alleged engineer "morris", or whatever his name is, this is an opportunity to make free money off of unsuspecting, gullible, and naive persons without having to do any real work at all. So I would split these people into two camps; 1) the believer and moron camp, which would be the largest; and 2) the active fraud camp including searl, morris, etc.
Hoho, have you seen Searl's latest 'document' posted on swallowcommand? He mentions me over 400 times in the space of 113 pages! I guess that that is what happens when a conman gets rattled.
Meanwhile, in the latest Lockerman film, Morris is seen trying to lure suckers into investing in perpetual motion. Does that make Lockerman an 'accessory before the fact'? In fact, I don't believe that they are real investors; I am sure that I have seen them before in some Searl-related context.
@flowerbower Just read some of it, very very funny, how un-professional can one company get. You did well to expose this shower of s**t , the name Beamshiploser made me smile as well, this misguided twat insulted me once.
So this proves what??? He "was/is" pissed off with electricity companies(aren't we all?) so he vandalized some shit and gets labelled with having a vendetta? And that proves he is an eccentric rebel and can't possible have done the things he has done?
@ReapTheRippers1 'Read between the lines', why don't you? It proves that he was making the same claims and promises, decades ago, as he is making now, that he is just a petty thief, and is of a decidedly vicious, unscrupulous and violent turn of mind. Sure, also being a brilliant inventor would be some sort of mitigating factor, but he isn't: so all that one is left with is the scummy personality and pathetic con game (which nevertheless fools the gullible: yes, I mean you).
Did you ever see MIT's lectures on field theory? Right from the start they decided to obfuscate the formula's & confuse the students, by using the letter V for volume, velocity, voltage, & a few magnetic field curve constants also given the name V.
At this point i was ROTFL as they say. Did these 'experts' never hear of S.I. or Natural Units? Volume=L^3 or Velocity being L/t ? Nah, that would be silly...
If you made it simple then everyone would understand it, and we can't have that, can we?
@stawmy I guess that MIT assumed that ITS students were bright enough to recognise the correct term from the context in which it was used. I once had an instructor who would sometimes use random symbols; the object being to teach that the form of the relationship was much more important than mere convention. I would suggest that those who become disenchanted by formal education are those who are merely seeking a profitable 'piece of paper' and have no inherent love for the subject.
@flowerbower By the looks on their faces, i don't think they were 'in' on the joke, as for that last remark, you are describing 90% of modern students, if it was a reference to me, then i think 'disgusted' is a far better word for describing how i feel about the level of 'science' being taught in schools & universities today.
As regards Steorn, you are correct, i have researched their Orbo & the learning modules & it's not even worth a school science project. Searl, no proof as yet, so it may be labelled as Debunked.
However, Aspden can in no way be regarded as an 'antigravity crackpot'-unlike Searl, his theory is sound & easily explained, he calls it 'modern aether theory' but you may also call it 'the Higgs field rediscovered' or 'how to bridge the huge gaps in QT, EM & Gravity'
@stawmy Aspden's theory is sound? Sure, assume that 'quantity-X' exists and has certain properties and one can prove anything that one wishes. There remains the 'small' problem however of proving that X exists. Did you know that Aspden is the proud co-patentee of a ludicrous gyroscopic flying saucer?. This was, apparently, a 'spoiler' which was inspired by Laithwaite's patent (I have copies of all of the private correspondence between the 2 groups and the Patent Office ... very funny)
@flowerbower No, i didn't know that, i would have to see the plans before i passed any judgement on it. What i find ludicrous is that they can spend billions of taxpayers money looking for the elusive Higgs particle. Have they found it yet?
As i've stated before, nearly ALL inventions are the result of lone 'crackpot' inventors,often funding themselves,often laughed at by 'mainstream' scientists.
By that i mean people conditioned to say yes, to accept 'facts' based on assumtion not observation
@stawmy You have to see plans before deciding to agree that gyroscopes cannot levitate? Jeez! Look them up anyway. It is very easy to find patents nowadays using Google. When I first started collecting crackpot antigravity patents, I had to travel hundreds of miles, do hand-searches and pay £thousands in fees! I can think of only one once-derided 'crackpot' who pioneered an invention that was contrary to known science, and that was Stanford Ovshinsky. Who are the others?
@flowerbower No, i do not. People misinterpret Laithwaite's work, he showed the absence of a force, not it's presence. Once you have acheived levitation (by other means) the gyroscope action is absolutely necessary for inertia control.Yes i collect these plans as a matter of course, i now have an extensive collection, most of which are unworkable. Some are worthy of attention, these candidates often get swallowed up by military black ops (then you KNOW it's worth investigating:)
@stawmy He did nothing of the sort; he rarely conducted proper experiments and instead employed demonstrations that were designed to exploit the ignorance of the audience. One trick was to claim that ice-on-ice was a very low-friction system and would therefore easily reveal the centrifugal force (which he claimed did not exist). In fact, ice-on-ice is a very poor choice in this case because it pressure-welds at low relative velocities. BTW, that brings up an interesting resonance: Davy ...
@stawmy [cont] conned his way into the Royal Institution on the basis of ice-friction experiments which he had supposedly performed. It was shown some 60 years ago that his experiment could not have been performed and that he must have faked the data. Davy was a somewhat sleazy character: stealing the credit for the lamp that bears his name, and trying to steal credit from Faraday. But sleaze pervades the RI: check the bio of Count Rumford!
@stawmy [cont] is a good judge of scientific matters? Have you seen the film, "The Men that Stare at Goats?" That was based upon fact. That is how crackpots survive: good scientists tend to eschew positions of power, leaving inadequately knowledgeable people to spot crackpots. The latter then suffer from 'the Beatles Effect': backing crazy projects because they are scared of being forever castigated as the one that turned something good down.
@stawmy Of course, Aspden does not limit himself to antigravity; he brings his ignorance of physics (being a mere electrical engineer) to bear on a range of subjects. He claims for instance that non-focussing optical devices are over-unity, and passed patents by 2 different inventors both of whom claimed to be able to measure the Earth's absolute velocity. He was also very quick to jump on the cold-fusion band-wagon (he was, after all, working in the same university as Fleischman).
@flowerbower I don't know about non focusing devices, but i do know about CCD technology, every single digital camera on the planet has a chip that shows overunity properties-but no-one's doing any research on it (as far as i'm aware of).
Now why is that?
As for cold fusion, not my field, but i do read Naudin's notes from time to time :)
@stawmy I edit a journal which deals with state-of-the-art semiconductor research. In what weird alternative universe can CCD's be construed to be perpetual-motion devices? Perhaps, like Henry Oman the IEEEE writer/editor who thinks that many electrical devices break the laws of thermodynamics, you have also failed to define input and output properly.
@flowerbower Perpetual motion is one thing, Something that has no real purpose unless it has over unity. Good luck. The load cannot be stronger than the torque of the device (mechanical) If the load is not, is it providing more output than input? Is the energy required to make that torque less than the output drain on the device. The more load the more torque required to keep the device (mechanical) going... The Laws of physics say it is not possible, but, the world was once flat, if that helps.
@luc59457 I am not quite sure what your point is, but the fact that you are using load, energy and torque in such an indiscriminate manner suggests that you are making the common error of confusing energy and power. That error once caused a perpetual motion machine to be defended all the way up to the US Supreme Court. It lost.
@luc59457 Yes, I got that bit. It was the load, torque, energy part that was confused. I should explain that I use 'perpetual motion' in a derogatory fashion to deride any such crackpot scheme. Of course, theoretically, a system with no losses will just keep going forever. However, that is never what the crackpots promise: they always claim to get out more energy than was put in (or was there to begin with). That is impossible, and anybody who claims to have succeeded is a madman or a crook.
@luc59457 I am 'bending over backwards' to be fair and allowing proponents of over-unity to admit that they might simply be performing the 'energy audit' incorrectly.
@luc59457 I am not quite sure what your point is, but the fact that you are using load, energy and torque in such an indiscriminate manner suggests that you are making the common error of confusing energy and power. That error once caused a perpetual motion machine to be defended all the way up to the US Supreme Court. It lost.
@luc59457 He's going to throw the Oxford English at you :) We've been over this a zillion times (probably comment 1700 area)-Energy=ability to do work, power=work done/time. However, we can only measure the observable energy in a system, any 'overunity' device is merely allowing more energy to be observed (or used), that energy is & always has been right there, we have therefore broken no laws i.e. thermodynamics. Work implies an energy transfer from A to B, electrical, mechanical etc
@stawmy Clear as mud. Now it looks as if you are moving the goal-posts by re-defining input and output. That reminds me of a notorious 'car that runs on water' from the 1970s. The mechanical energy put out was indeed higher than what the batteries could have supplied. The excess was coming from the gradual destruction of the motor itself! I suspect that a similar process explains supposedly over-unity steam-generators.
@flowerbower if you are as smart as you think you are, you will be able to figure it out. As for the Royal Society, it does not matter if your science is good or bad, you just have to know the right handshakes:) Of course, you don't have to look far to find an object that is perpetually moving, it's called an electron.......
@stawmy Ah, the conspiracy-excuse again: now the RS is supposed to be run by Freemasons, is it? In fact, I don't have much respect for that society ever since it went against its own motto (Nulla in Verba) and devoted an entire issue of the Proceedings to the pseudoscience of ball-lightning,
@stawmy Reading that issue would be a good start: one of the papers looked as if it had been re-printed from a ufology magazine.
Another sign of the down-market plunging of the RS is that it recently awarded a prize to a school-teacher (Kerry Pendergast qv) who spends his time singing the praises of one DrMyron Evans. The latter has set up a company to develop PM and antigravity machines and, horror of horrors, is the only scientist receiving a Civil-List Pension (the reward given to Faraday)!
I note that Searl has been in the US for well over the 6 months permitted by a tourist visa. So, he is now living there illegally, or Fernando has 'smuggled' him in under one of the exceptions. Hmm, which of those will later look more embarassing to the US: 'person of exceptional talent' or 'businessman investing in the US'? Perhaps someone should ask Homeland Security which category better suits a known saboteur.
flowerbower 1 month ago
@flowerbower Why he is allowed to stay is beyond me.
RealityCalling 2 weeks ago in playlist JOHN SEARL STORY
@RealityCalling Interesting admission, concerning the IGV, from Searl in his latest 'document', "I have not been saying nothing about it for some time, due to the fact that there was nothing of worth to say."
Well there never was, what with it being imaginary.
BTW, I suspect that he has returned simply because Fernando did not want to pay his medical bills.
flowerbower 1 week ago
@RealityCalling Of course, 'his' document has been plagiarised from "Pilot's guide to flight emergency procedures" by Birch and Bramson. Still, it is gratifying to see that I am still well inside the moronic little conman's head.
flowerbower 1 week ago
@RealityCalling AND he is again boasting of his skills as a pilot. Odd then that, according to the Civil Aviation Authority, he does not hold a licence. At least he seems to have dropped the ridiculous lie that he was piloting large aircraft before he started to learn to fly small ones.
flowerbower 1 week ago
Excellent Video FB. Thanks for putting it together.
thefrockdoctrine 1 month ago
This SEG device is now called... "The Searl Manure Generator".
abm3152 2 months ago
Lest we forget:
"Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized to accept, as trustee for the United States Government, from Garabed K.T.Giragossian an assignment of the right to utilize for the Government's own use his discovery or invention to be known as the 'Garabed'."
In other words, the entire US government was (1918) once fooled by a Searl-style conman.
flowerbower 4 months ago 2
I see that they are trying to sell the scam in Australia now. The usual unconvincing nonsense of course. They cannot even get the long-con 'stage-setting' right, what with Searl's own words being misquoted on one page and incorrect mathematics on another page.
flowerbower 4 months ago 2
Judging by this lot you probably have windscreen wipers fitted on your monitor
GMANIM 4 months ago
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GMANIM 4 months ago
Of Course! Flowerbower! J R R Searl's arch-nemesis. Thanks to you the inside of my monitor screen was covered in his saliva. Is he a fnutter or a conman or both?
GMANIM 4 months ago
What is it with these actors? Lockerman fronts for Searl, and Bo Linton fronts for Magnegas.
flowerbower 4 months ago
hahaha ... searle had many working demo models unlike you who couldn't build a torch ... hahaha.
daviddalbylive 4 months ago
@daviddalbylive It is no wonder that the economy is in such a mess when moronic mini-Madoffs like you are looking after our money. I dare say that Searl (sic) could sell YOU the Brooklyn Bridge.
flowerbower 4 months ago
@flowerbower hey jibbering imbecile go play with your equations and faulty math models.
daviddalbylive 4 months ago
@daviddalbylive I notice that you cannot even manage equations: you must be the only person who does not use Bayesian methods in a so-called expert system. Moreover, I have not seen such childish coding since the days of Reverse-Polish notation. Still, well done, you have clearly 'been on a course'. What was it? Erhard seminar training? Or are there newer 'self-orientation' scams around these days?
flowerbower 4 months ago
@flowerbower hahaha ... it's for beginners dumb ass ... hey while you physicists are scratching your nuts, real world experiments in cold fusion are revolutionizing the world of physics with people like Frank Znidarsic's brilliant work ... of courswe dumb asses like you couldn't invent a paper bag ... hahaha.
daviddalbylive 4 months ago
@daviddalbylive I think that beginners need a better start than that!
But you really know your crackpots, don't you? Isn't Znidarsic also into antigravity; the other 'big thing' in pseudoscientific fraud? Let me introduce you to Myron Evans: I think that his arrogance, conceit ... and poor mathematical ability will appeal to you. BTW, as an investment expert and dupe of pseudoscience, how much have you invested in Searl and/or cold fusion? Nothing, right?
flowerbower 4 months ago
@flowerbower you have been duped because the word pseudoscience was created by banksters to stop people investigating certain areas that could ruin their profitable businesses which means your the crackpot. If alternative energies are so pseudo why have banksters gone to great lenghts to surpress and even kill their inventors. dum dum.
daviddalbylive 4 months ago
@daviddalbylive No, it was invented by real scientists who were fed up with fraudsters who were usurping the authority of science.
Ah, if only 'sinister forces' WERE killing off cranks: nothing would make me happier.
And if financiers are into suppression, how do YOU explain the fact that the multimillionaire pension-fund (sic) manager, Richard Balding, was on the board of directors of one of Searl's dodgy companies?
flowerbower 4 months ago
@flowerbower Just what I thought we have an idiot who doesn't know what is happening in the world of science behind the scenes been watching the bbc again have we? which means you have been a good slave and taken your flouride and mercury poisons which explains why your a dumb ass. hahaha.
daviddalbylive 4 months ago
@daviddalbylive Oh, and a conspiracy-theorist to boot. You really do tick ALL of the boxes, don't you?
flowerbower 4 months ago
@flowerbower hahaha your so dumb it's unbelievable, a conspiracy is 2 or more people planning for their own benefot and detriment to others ... that happens everyday ... companies conspire to rig prices and banksters conspire to rig markets ... proven main stream media facts ... you really have no clue ... so go back to sleep and be a good little slave .... hahaha.
daviddalbylive 4 months ago
@daviddalbylive Hmm, is English your first language?
flowerbower 4 months ago
@flowerbower My first language is Alien ... Sirian to be exact ... Zar Zu Ma (heartfelt thanks) so Selamat Ja (be in joy) great talking to you because it keeps me on your toes ;-)
daviddalbylive 4 months ago
@daviddalbylive No no you appear to be only fluent in deranged with a working knowledge of gibberish. Unfortunately babble fish dosen't translate those
fizzguts 3 months ago
@fizzguts hahaha another dummy no doubt you believe the Equations that say the Bumble Bee cannot fly as well. Well I saw one last week defying your limited perception of reality.
daviddalbylive 3 months ago
@daviddalbylive And what equations would those be? Have you ever seen them, checked them? Who exactly wrote them down, and where? No, they are just part of the 'tool box' of factoids that go with being a fully-fledged wing-nut. It is funny how you nutters swallow all of that guff without question, and yet accuse scientists of being brainwashed.
BTW, it also used to be claimed that the flight of certain birds 'defied physics'.
Please come into the 21st century.
flowerbower 3 months ago
@daviddalbylive Bwahahahaha another dummy who doesn't understand Reynolds Numbers which explain how a bee flies. Or is it just that you get your information from Christmas crackers?
Hint read study and for ucks sake stop looking at the websites of over unity flying saucer kooks like old bandy legs. As you have demonstrated it rots your mind
fizzguts 3 months ago
@flowerbower hahaha ... now you want ME to EDUCATE YOU ... get your own education, dum,dum.
daviddalbylive 3 months ago
@daviddalbylive Where did you read that? I do have a passing interest in scams of the De Bono type; you know, the one where some simple puzzle from the back of a 1950's comic is recycled as a 'brain-training tool'. Courses based upon them are very popular among employers who want to be seen to be providing 'ongoing training', and even more popular among employees who relish the prospect of goofing-off for a few days at the company's expense. All pseudo-education for nitwits, of course.
flowerbower 3 months ago 2
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@flowerbower What's up? ... you Jealous because John Searl is a genius and your a Dum Ass trained not to think?
daviddalbylive 3 months ago
@daviddalbylive Hey smart guy... How about you provide us with even just one single peice of solid evidence that ANYTHING John Searl has ever said has been true? Just one peice of solid evidence is all I ask. Failure to do this shall be seen as an admission on your part of being incorrect.
MrAwsome514 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
@daviddalbylive Oh and incase you were wondering... lame excuses and baseless insults to change the subject like what you gave flowerbower down there will also be seen as an admission of ignorance on your part.
MrAwsome514 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
@daviddalbylive Go clean some windows, and do some book-keeping on the side when, of course, you are not busy pushing get-rich-quick schemes. It is funny how you 'successful investors' never seem to be able to get by without 'selling the secret' to others. Reminds me of perpetual-motion inventors: their machines never work, but they sell plenty of books and plans. Check out Dennis Lee and improve your game.
flowerbower 4 months ago
Oil companies do not give a fuck if someone brings out an alternative energy, they can still collect billions of dollars for the next 100 years regardless,
This is a typical excuse that fuckwits use when their fucken free energy device doesn't work, and they want your money. They think it sound legit.
Joseph Newman,....
....John Searl SEG,
....Lutec,
....Prendev, ....and many others are all fucken stupid fuckwits...
.....Thank you.....
abm3152 4 months ago
Just think of the investors he could have bilked if he hadn't been criminally insane.
ImMichaelTaylor 4 months ago
@ImMichaelTaylor I have been likening him to Madoff for years, but Searl seems to have invented a new con: not Ponzi, not Pyramid (Aircraft Game, etc.) but the 'never quite finished revolutionary invention' scam.
flowerbower 4 months ago
watch?v=4Cp6KfsGqBk&feature=related
Sorry the link to the scammers with their Fernado knock off is above
fizzguts 4 months ago
Interesting. The scammers at mag-power have built Fernado's "impress the idiots ring and roller" devices put them on you tube but they offer for a mere $100 the plans so you can build them yourself and of course get free energy.
fizzguts 4 months ago
unusual.
moya138 5 months ago
The attack on this John Searl SEG crap has finally begun,
Times UP..........
abm3152 5 months ago
To 'stargate': I spent a lot of time replying to your last private message, and then found that you had closed your account. Perhaps you could let me know if you come back in some new incarnation.
flowerbower 5 months ago
I think this may be their address ????
Searl Magnetics Inc
2766 Via Orange Way # A, Spring Valley, CA 91978-1753
(619) 303-3136
abm3152 5 months ago
@abm3152 Yes. Google street-level confirms it. So why are they so careful to keep it secret in those swallowcommand clips? I suggest that it is a matter of 'suckers by invitation only'.
flowerbower 5 months ago
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abm3152 5 months ago
@abm3152 If you can, call (001) 619 303 3136 and ask for Fernando.
flowerbower 5 months ago
People,
Do not waste your time asking these John Searl SEG fuckwits any questions,
They will just respond with the biggest load of fucking crap, that they pull out of their ass, just so they can get your fucking money.....
Times up, John Searl and your fuckwit team, you can now fuck OFF.
Thank you...
abm3152 5 months ago
I can't stop fucking laughing...............
abm3152 5 months ago
abm3152 5 months ago
Someone has asked, "How Do I contact John Searl",
This is easy,
Shove a neodymium magnet up your ass, and then sit on the lavatory and wait....
Thank you
abm3152 5 months ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
As you can all see by the way I submit my comments,
I cannot stand people that constantly bullshit like these SEG fuckwits.
They have been do this bullshit for fucken 60 years and they are still at it, with their most pathetic explanations, and still fucken nothing to show.
John Searl and his SEG team are absolute FuckWits
Thank you
abm3152 5 months ago 4
John Searl is a Fuckwit
abm3152 5 months ago
@Kcirtap792 What a conveniently topsy-turdy (sic) world you live in: skeptics are expected to build devices which the scam-artists themselves cannot build; those who know nothing about physics pontificate about scientific evidence of which they are pig-ignorant and theories which they cannot possibly understand, and experts know less than the empty-headed. With the perpetual absence of any valid evidence for Searl's claims, of course I can insist that it cannot work. You are a fool.
flowerbower 5 months ago
@Kcirtap792 As I have pointed out many times before: the SEG resembles a roller-bearing, and it is a little-known fact that passing a high radial current will cause such a bearing to rotate. It will, however, rapidly overheat, seize up, glow and then probably explode in a shower of sparks. I say, 'little known', but it was in fact well known to low-level electrical workers decades ago ... you know, during Searl's 'formative years'.
Why do you want us to screw up the stars too?
flowerbower 5 months ago
I wonder why Searl Magnetics is so secretive about its location? All of that film by Lockerman, carefully avoiding showing that huge street number on the outside wall, isn't that a strange strategy for a legit business? What are shoppers supposed to do, drive around Spring Valley in the hope of spotting the buildings seen on YouTube?
flowerbower 5 months ago
@Kcirtap792 SR-71. First flight 1962 revealed with fanfare in 1965. The wobbly goblin was hidden for 7 years and project Aurora is a conspiracy theorists wet dream fantasy. I'm 100% sure you are wrong as nothing you have mentioned used principles that weren't well know.
fizzguts 5 months ago
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abm3152 5 months ago 3
I think that Searl is about to do the planet an immense favour ... by leaving it! That galloping obesity, which the sequence of vids at swallowcommand reveals, cannot be healthy at his age.
flowerbower 6 months ago
@flowerbower - the movement is just waiting for him to crap out. He has gotten so senile in his later years that he is actually hurting their propaganda. I looked through his last pdf on his website and it is a mishmash of him taking flying lessons with pictures of tools used for a Cesarian birth. Once they have him gone and can use him as some sort of martyr, then they will ramp up on trying to get more money. Anyone following that fool is obviously a bigger fool.
nickle57 5 months ago
@nickle57 Yep, I fully expect Searl to become the new Tesla.
flowerbower 5 months ago
@Kcirtap792 I am willing to believe that there is 'secret technology', but not that there is 'secret science'. For instance, it was pretty obvious (to any physicist) how to make an atomic bomb before the Manhattan project; it was the precise engineering techniques that were new (and secret). Science cannot be developed in secret because new discoveries become common knowledge before anyone realises their significance. So, no antigravity, no back-engineering of flying saucers etc.
flowerbower 6 months ago
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I must admit, this fucken John Searl SEG fucking Crap is everywhere, when do you find the fucken time to put all this fucking bullshit on YouTube. Shouldn't you SEG fuckwitts be doing something else besides filmimg fucking bullshit all the time.
I still think, if John Searl, (SEG), shoved a fucken neodymium magnet up his ass, he might have had a better chance to making it work. Try it, and it will probably work....
I can't stop fucking laughing,.... and I spilt my fucking coffee....
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Bullshitfinder1 7 months ago 60
Have you seen the his latest Facebook page?
"Professor John Searl is in a bad situation and needs our help"
What on Earth has happened? Has Fernando read a physics textbook at last?
flowerbower 7 months ago 6
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09-134AD Supreme Court issues final orders on Cycclone Magnetic Engines
US-based CME operated in the Gold Coast and Lismore and claimed it had developed an engine that produced power through the use of magnets and required no fuel. CME displayed a video on its website which showed the engine appearing to operate. The Court found that the engine could not work.
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Bullshitfinder1 7 months ago
Perendev magnet motor inventor arrested for embezzlement
24 Apr 2010 ... Perendev magnet motor inventor arrested for embezzlement. After declaring bankruptcy in Germany, Mike Brady rented a house at Lake Zurich in ...
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Bullshitfinder1 7 months ago
To- John Searl SEG and hisTeam
It would be highly recommended to upload a YouTube video confession on this SEG scam within 7 weeks. If this confession is not produced within this time, fraud investigation will be in full force.
If the YouTube confession is provided within this time, NO further action will be taken.
Times Up....... 60 years is long enough for this scam.
Bullshitfinder1 7 months ago 2
Fraud investigations on this SEG rubbish have begun,
It seems that this hole SEG fraud has been going on for years and they expect it to continue for years to come...
Well, Well, Well, we will see about that.
I still think, if John Searl, (SEG), shoved a neodymium magnet up his ass, he might have had a better chance to making it work, "NARRRR"
( I can't stop laughing )..........
Bullshitfinder1 7 months ago 2
Check out the recent podcast, Sailing beyond Knowledge (aka Sailing beyond Sanity) #42, in which the resident airhead, Carlita, repeatedly refers to him as SIR John Searl. Strangely enough, neither Searl nor Lockerman (his new lapdog) corrected her.
Perhaps they know something. After all, the Queen awarded a Civil List Pension to another perpetual-motion/antigravity crackpot, and the Royal Society awarded a prestigious prize to his biographer and co-author, so who knows ...
flowerbower 8 months ago
@flowerbower What??? lol who was the pension and prestigious prizes awarded to? It's possible because Nasa gets involved with cracpot ideas such as reactionless drives from Eric Laithwaite, or Roger Shawyer and his em drive being awarded a research grant by people that don't seem to have a clue.
BarriosGroupie 6 months ago
@BarriosGroupie The person who got the pension is Myron Wyn Evans (check out his unconsciously hilarious daily blog via aias dot us). His biographer, Kerry Pendergast, was awarded a Hauksbee medal by the RS.
It seems that neither the Queen nor the RS know anything about physics.
flowerbower 6 months ago
@BarriosGroupie And if you want to see REALLY 'glittering prizes', check out his favourite genealogist, Sir Arthur Turner-Thomas, V. C., G. C., K. G. (Wales). The problem is that, for a start, he does not appear on any list of Victoria Cross winners. How does Evans explain that? "It was awarded in secret", haha. Mr(?) Turner-Thomas also seems to live in the same village as does a namesake pop-festival promoter who was interviewed by police over missing cash. What an embarrassing coincidence!
flowerbower 6 months ago
It is hard to believe Searl still has the crap going
nickle57 8 months ago 4
@nickle57 It is hard to believe that the scam is progressing in some sense. I am amazed that the Americans let him in: don't they know that he has a conviction for sabotaging power supplies? Some people might term that 'terrorist activity'.
flowerbower 8 months ago 4
@flowerbower I didn't know he was over here in the US. There are a lot of people upset about gas prices so scams are showing up daily on ways to get around paying for gas. He will get busted and probably move on. What happened to his crap in Asia? Wasn't he going to build it over there?
nickle57 8 months ago
@nickle57 I am amazed at how lax you all are over there; one of your nutters would need a pretty good excuse to stay here for more than 3 months. Even being 'self-employed' or a 'company director' would not be good enough unless he kept hundreds of thousands of pounds on deposit. But there is Searl, living in California and with an 'official address' in Las Vegas.
Look at their equipment: it is all standard stuff. Where is that supposedly essential Thai magnetizer?
flowerbower 8 months ago 2
@flowerbower The U.S. is a big place. Lunatics like Searl can surely find some nook in Southern California to camp out without a great deal of scrutiny. But it wouldn't have happened without the help of his U.S. supporters. Maybe they should be labeled terrorist sympathizers. I can't see Mr. Searl obtaining the pole patterns he describes using the magnetizing equipment shown in recent videos. But it's all just for a show, isn't it.
stargate153 8 months ago
What IS Morris trying to say in the latest vid posted on Swallowcommand? Does he really think that a radial current is driving the motor which he himself built? Didn't he wonder why he was putting all of those electromagnets around the outside? Doesn't he know that he COULD make it run (for a while) by using a radial current and replacing the electromagnets with a concentic conducting ring? Where DID he study electrical engineering?
flowerbower 9 months ago
I see that, in his latest interview, Searl now gives - as the excuse for not patenting - the ludicrous reason that it is too dangerous because anyone could build a SEG and the 'magnetic pulse would spread out and destroy electrical equipment'. He must have been reading about EMP, and decided to tack that onto his tired spiel.
I don't believe that Lockerman can be deemed an innocent dupe any more: he now actively lies about that silly motor and says that it runs without any power supply!
flowerbower 9 months ago 4
From Wiki: "In January 1961, Carr was convicted of "the crime of selling securities without registering the same" in Oklahoma, and fined $5,000 ... He was denied an appeal on March 1, 1961. Carr could not pay the fine, and served part of a 14-year jail term. After his sentence ended, Carr lived quietly in Pittsburgh until his death in 1982."
Sleep well, John-boy and Fernando ... until they catch up with you too.
flowerbower 9 months ago 2
i get a kick out of reading through the edits page. you should post links to stuff here. do you have links to the actual? or is this it? lol,. wow > John Roy Robert Searl did survive his ordeal of being born, which was not his choice or desire, but
accepted the fact that he actually existed because on the eleventh day of June in the year of our Lord
1932, his date of birth was actually recorded as being alive, proving yet again that miracles though
rare sometimes happen. vendetta? lol
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 Unfortunately, he did not survive without brain damage. It seems that a boyhood of being called stupid has resulted in this over-reaction, and in his predilection for adopting unearned titles and qualifications and claiming to have invented things which do not, and cannnot, exist. However, my real interest is in outing the supposedly intelligent people who eagerly 'build extensions' onto his sand-based castle. THEY are the real fools!
flowerbower 10 months ago
i get a kick out of reading through the edits page. you should post links to stuff here. do you have links to the actual? or is this it? lol
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
you can't use this video as proof of a news article? I would like to see the real article when I click a wiki link! do you have any actual proof? most of what I've read sounds like speculation in the edits. funny I watch this and wiki links back? vendetta? well i'm going back to wiki and read a bit more,.. :0) yep I do my own snooping around!
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 It is funny how people believe Searl's ridiculous claims without ever asking for proof, but expect 'chapter and verse' for any criticism. When I first uploaded this vid, it was possible to go straight to Times Online and see the original. However, it has now been made 'pay to view', so it is no longer so painless. But I suppose that you would still argue that that would still just be an 'image' and not real newsprint!
flowerbower 10 months ago
@flowerbower I don't believe his claims or yours without proof. anyways I can't remember how I stumbled across this but it was pretty interesting. and what I think about wiki, it's a good starting point for info, but,.. well we both know anyone can edit wiki. just thought this circular proof was kinda odd,.. I may look at this a little closer one day again when bored. till then, have at it. :0)
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 There comes a point where 'keeping an open mind' merely equates to 'having an empty head'. How can my relating mundane criminal proceedings, and pointing out that Searl's claims would contradict overwhelmingly well-attested physical laws, possibly be placed on the same level as his complete failure to produce any evidence worthy of the name and his making ridiculous statements; such as the one that he built 41 flying saucers for the US Airforce. Are you on drugs??
flowerbower 10 months ago
@flowerbower , if he built one good for him if not, Oh well. did I say he built 41 flying saucers? are you on drugs? you say he's a fraud and when I check your evidence it links back to you? where can I pay to see this article? lol
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 He built a wooden model. That's it. I did not say that you said that he built 41 flying saucers; that is simply one of the articles of faith which all true Searl worshippers have to accept. The dates and sources of the newspaper articles are clearly given. Just go to The Times online site.
flowerbower 10 months ago
@flowerbower , you said he said, then implied i was on drugs? as though I'm the one who made that claim. personally I'm more worried about the reactors in Japan leaking, but if I do decide to become a Searl fanatic I'll be back! ;0) then you can give me hell, and visa versa o.k.
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 I made the drugs comment as I thought that it was the kindest explanation for your lack of common sense, and inability to apply coherent thought processes to an obvious scam.
Laymen over-react whenever 'radiation' is mentioned. If they looked at the figures, and reacted consistently, they would stop eating bananas and evacuate regions such as Cornwall!
BTW, how did the ludicrous term, China Syndrome, ever gain currency?
flowerbower 10 months ago
@flowerbower , well I guess you just didn't get it? who cares, I'm not obsessing over this Searl guy. he has not scammed me. you act like he's scammed you! lol,. talk about common sense. o'k layman what's the worst isotope? drugs? banana's? I guess your infatuation with Searl is more important than a (possible) full melt down of a reactor? that will kill people. talk about an empty head, you can't even take a hint. hey you wanna buy a U.F.O.? I'm selling them for $50.00 this week only! lmfao
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 Oh for fucks sake, the classic not an argument "because we haven't solved all the problems of the world we can't take apart old bandy legs CON"
OK Turn about Mr Flying what are you doing about the melt down in Japan? Hello? Silence? Mumble look at feet shuffle?
Yeah Mr Flying typical of do nothing ranters.
fizzguts 10 months ago
@fizzguts , the only thing I can. hoping my friend Mia is o.k. over there. and you?
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 Yep Mr Flying you are doing, just like I said, NOTHING. So don't get all "well you have to solve a nuclear reactor incident first" on me. I am trying to shut this scam down plus a couple of other youtube hucksters and charlatens and that stands on it's own merits. You don't like that, couldn't give a toss. Raise some nitwit poorly thought out non argument expect it to come back at you x 10
fizzguts 10 months ago
@fizzguts ,.. OMG you must be bored, jeeze another youtube hero? lol . like I said before,.. wow! I really don't care if he built a ufo or not. big deal, at least his video's have some entertainment value. and learn to comprehend why don't you,.. worrying about something= "well you have to solve a nuclear reactor incident first"? dork
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 Oh, so fraud is OK provided that it is entertaining is it? That opens up a whole new vista of jurisprudence.
flowerbower 10 months ago
@flowerbower does entertainment equal fraud? nice try.
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 You could benefit from drawing a few Euler-Venn diagrams.
flowerbower 10 months ago
@flowerbower , Searl seems to have already built one. (all them circles spinning like mad) and since you put it that way,.... (0: > you win.< :0)
I haven't seen his ufo yet, should be pretty entertaining, err,.. I mean fraudulent. and I'll bet it's also a circle, wow your really amazing! you just made me realize every thing is connected if I think about it long enough.
I just hope they don't lock me up for watching a wooden ufo!
you guys talk to detective? police? humm,.
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 10 months ago
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@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1
OMG you must be bored, jeeze another youtube hero?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Hoist on your own petard or translating you owned yourself
fizzguts 10 months ago
Is he "all there"? I saw a youtube vid of him calling himself Professor and in an academic gown. I wonder if he is sixpence less than the full shilling? I am sure he means well however.
sorova 11 months ago
@sorova He is 'crazy like a fox'; a conman from way back. He does not mean well. He wants only to cheat the gullible, and he gets very annoyed when thwarted.
flowerbower 11 months ago
@flowerbower needs to take a day off haha!! Sounds like you need to cut lose and get some RandR !! Seriously why spend time bashing someone! You carnt tell people how to live/believe its best to set an example and be the man to show the way. Even if Searl is a fraud let people fall for it! They might learn a lesson that you could never tell them about!
dbnstrikeman 11 months ago
@dbnstrikeman My last comment was made a week ago. That seems to be a fairly leisurely rate of work! As I have explained before, I am using Searl as a sort of touchstone for exposing apparently more believable 'authorities', such as the guy who works for Lockheed yet thinks that Searl is genuine. By demonstrating just how crooked and ludicrous Searl is, I can undermine and lampoon anyone who cannot see the truth of the situation. Just wait for the book; it will expose 'idiots in high places'.
flowerbower 11 months ago
I note that he has now started mentioning me in his videos. Not in full, yet, but that will come. I expect that he is afraid that, like the proverbial Devil, I shall appear if he talks abut me.
flowerbower 11 months ago
The last few videos posted on swallowcommand reveal an interesting phenomenon: one by one, the marvellous claims are falling away. There is no more talk of flying to the Moon, no more talk of 'energy from nowhere'. They now cluster around that ludicrous induction motor (similar to Wheatstone's seminal 19th-century patent) while Searl misinterprets electromagnetic effects which were known to Arago. No wonder it all looks like a conjuring trick, complete with 'dope from the audience'.
flowerbower 11 months ago
I do not believe one word you say FB..and I know that other Human Beings are onto you. Thanks for all your help bring light to your own fantasies. You have empowered people like me to know the ways of obfuscators of truth like your self. Just checking in sir, hope you have a nice day and can live with yourself where you''ll be taken ;-) Peace (I happen to believe that there is still hope for you)
JohnWilliamCornett 11 months ago
@JohnWilliamCornett I imagine that, among you and your friends, 'human being' is just about the only attribute which you possess. Perhaps you aspire to more, but I see no sign of it.
The concept of truth is meaningless without evidence to back it up. How pathetic of you to think that the 'word' of a conman, faked UFO photographs and century-old physics demonstrations are evidence.
flowerbower 11 months ago
Searl clearly states in "THE SEARL STORY" dvd that he won his case against the electrcity board and charges were dropped. As we can see from your video Searl is a very bad and outrageous liar as he went to jail for this. We can never trust Searl and he should eb prosecuted for fraud in his claims and lies IMHO.
truthseekers666 11 months ago
@truthseekers666 Yes indeed. One might also ask how someone, who is the director of 3 companies (all registered in notoriously secretive 'tax-havens'), who travels widely and who has a flat (subsidised by tax-payers) stuffed with expensive gadgets, supposedly manages all of that on a pension.
flowerbower 11 months ago
So what if he is a nut case trying to sabotage electrical companies, does not really discredit his supposed device? If one want to expose him as a fraud then surely one should try to find fault with his proposed invention.
robertk1968 1 year ago
@robertk1968 No, but it discredits him and, since 'his word' is the only evidence that he has to offer, that then leaves nothing at all. There is no independent evidence that any anomalous events have ever occurred, and the 'supportive evidence' from others ranges from 'other crackpots jumping on the bandwagon' to 'tacking on any item of scientific news that might fool the layman'. BTW, apart from the theft and malicious damage, he is also guilty of forgery and desertion of a military post.
flowerbower 11 months ago
@flowerbower Point taken, but I only wish a machine like that did exist and I think something simular does somewhere in this world, but , as you put it, ' no independent evidence that any anomalous events have ever occurred' from John Searl all these years. Ahh Well, back to my search....................
robertk1968 11 months ago
@robertk1968 People have been thinking that it would be 'nice if such machines existed' for hundreds of years. I can urge you only to study the history of the subject, because the same 'ritual' of claims plus 'authoritative support' plus ultimate failure has been played out again and again down the centuries. The one steady beacon throughout has been the guiding principle that, 'there is no such thing as a free lunch' as far as the physical world is concerned.
flowerbower 11 months ago
@flowerbower The phrase 'no such thing as a free lunch' to me also suggests enslavement, there is evidence that people like Tesla, Raymond Royal Rife, Reich and many others did indeed have emerging concepts and theories that were suppressed and sometimes completely sabotaged by those who knew better. I do not believe that the scientific communities, the foundations that sponsor them as well as other influencial powers that be are as pure as the driven snow.
robertk1968 11 months ago
@robertk1968 As soon as anyone mentions any of those people, especially Tesla, I groan inwardly because the speaker has outed himself as someone who automatically sides with any underdog without first taking the precaution of ensuring that it is not rabid. They were never suppressed; their ideas never worked but could still do harm by causing patients to forego scientifically proven treatments. It is ironic BTW that pseudoscience can flourish in truly suppressive environments, cf. Lysenko
flowerbower 11 months ago
@flowerbower Eh?? Sort of lost me towards the middle there while you were focusing on your eloquence.
robertk1968 11 months ago
@robertk1968 Seems perfectly clear to me, unless you were unaware of Tesla's excursion into 'alternative medicine'. I also wonder at the claim of 'suppression', given that followers of Reich (such as De Meo) are still pushing his orgone nonsense.
But then, conspiracy-theorizing is so easy, isn't it?
My point about Trofim Lysenko was that he flourished in Stalin's Russia. In fact, Stalin killed off all of the real scientists to stop them from criticizing Lysenko. It ruined Russian agriculture.
flowerbower 11 months ago
Searle and Searl. Different name. Was searl 50 in 1978?
AZLuvV 1 year ago
@AZLuvV No, he was 44. Don't worry: they are the same person - his nephew still uses the 'le' spelling. Why the name change? Who knows - perhaps to hide some other criminality in his past. A few years ago, he was claiming that he had been an airline pilot (he has no licence at all according to the CAA) and posted some flight logs in order to prove it. These were obvious forgeries as the pertinent part was in different ink and he had forgotten about the change in his spelling of his name, haha.
flowerbower 1 year ago
Watching Lockerman's videos is informative. I think as well as white van man there is a white collar version, white-board man. Stand any idiot in front of a whiteboard and they can't help themselves. Before you know it the hockum will be half baking nicely.
BFKate 1 year ago
@BFKate One worries about the damage done to his acting career but, of course, compared to the actors who are scientologists, this is a relatively mild affliction. I recall that Gloria Swanson once had dealings with a Portuguese antigravity inventor back in the 60s; in between backing crackpot cancer-therapists such as Priore.
flowerbower 1 year ago
I was catching up on the progress of Perendev Magnetic Motors, only to be pleasantly surprised to learn the so called inventor Mike Brady has been slung in the clink in Germany on charges of embezzlement. Searly should be concerned.
BFKate 1 year ago
@BFKate The Germans would lock Searl up simply for using fake academic titles. They take such things very seriously. The Americans, OTOH, have been brought up by Hollywood to think that real scientists are all like Searl!
flowerbower 1 year ago
"John Searl Arrives in the US" (swallowcommand). Well, they COULD have photoshopped that pic a little so that he didn't look quite so much like a toothless vampire in a straitjacket!
flowerbower 1 year ago
I note that Searl Magnetics is not listed by Dun & Bradstreet. That is pretty unusual.
flowerbower 1 year ago
I've now passed a couple of hours reading the comments to this video. Fascinating and on occasion illuminating. Does anyone ever thank you for helping them out of their delusion?
theseushobbes 1 year ago
@theseushobbes Occasionally.
flowerbower 1 year ago
Wow...Since 2007 Searle has been building his fraudulent device and it's still not finished. This is despite signing on some Thai criminals to help him scam money from people and many, many claims of "disclosure" conferences, public demonstrations, etc. None of these ever happened and no "SEG" in sight. Meanwhile, beamshiploser keeps banging his pots. You'd think that by now people would have wised-up; so at this point they deserve all the ridicule they get.
Blndrfist 1 year ago 7
@Blndrfist In fact, he has been doing that since the sixties and entire teams of supporters have come and gone since then. It is more like a religious cult than a scam (as an atheist, I equate the two of them anyway): the followers believe, even in absence of any objective proof, and proselytise on his behalf. I don't know why there is pressure to allow prisoners and mental patients to vote: Searl and his followers already have that right, lol. It is lucky that we have no direct democracy.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower Good points all. For the average believer idiot, yes it seems very much like a cult. I suspect that for frauds like the alleged engineer "morris", or whatever his name is, this is an opportunity to make free money off of unsuspecting, gullible, and naive persons without having to do any real work at all. So I would split these people into two camps; 1) the believer and moron camp, which would be the largest; and 2) the active fraud camp including searl, morris, etc.
Blndrfist 1 year ago
Hoho, have you seen Searl's latest 'document' posted on swallowcommand? He mentions me over 400 times in the space of 113 pages! I guess that that is what happens when a conman gets rattled.
Meanwhile, in the latest Lockerman film, Morris is seen trying to lure suckers into investing in perpetual motion. Does that make Lockerman an 'accessory before the fact'? In fact, I don't believe that they are real investors; I am sure that I have seen them before in some Searl-related context.
flowerbower 1 year ago 8
@flowerbower Just read some of it, very very funny, how un-professional can one company get. You did well to expose this shower of s**t , the name Beamshiploser made me smile as well, this misguided twat insulted me once.
pikeystudmuffin 1 year ago
@flowerbower
So this proves what??? He "was/is" pissed off with electricity companies(aren't we all?) so he vandalized some shit and gets labelled with having a vendetta? And that proves he is an eccentric rebel and can't possible have done the things he has done?
ReapTheRippers1 10 months ago
@ReapTheRippers1 'Read between the lines', why don't you? It proves that he was making the same claims and promises, decades ago, as he is making now, that he is just a petty thief, and is of a decidedly vicious, unscrupulous and violent turn of mind. Sure, also being a brilliant inventor would be some sort of mitigating factor, but he isn't: so all that one is left with is the scummy personality and pathetic con game (which nevertheless fools the gullible: yes, I mean you).
flowerbower 10 months ago 4
Did you ever see MIT's lectures on field theory? Right from the start they decided to obfuscate the formula's & confuse the students, by using the letter V for volume, velocity, voltage, & a few magnetic field curve constants also given the name V.
At this point i was ROTFL as they say. Did these 'experts' never hear of S.I. or Natural Units? Volume=L^3 or Velocity being L/t ? Nah, that would be silly...
If you made it simple then everyone would understand it, and we can't have that, can we?
stawmy 1 year ago
@stawmy I guess that MIT assumed that ITS students were bright enough to recognise the correct term from the context in which it was used. I once had an instructor who would sometimes use random symbols; the object being to teach that the form of the relationship was much more important than mere convention. I would suggest that those who become disenchanted by formal education are those who are merely seeking a profitable 'piece of paper' and have no inherent love for the subject.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower By the looks on their faces, i don't think they were 'in' on the joke, as for that last remark, you are describing 90% of modern students, if it was a reference to me, then i think 'disgusted' is a far better word for describing how i feel about the level of 'science' being taught in schools & universities today.
stawmy 1 year ago
BTW i posted Laithwaite's entire 1975 lecture (there's a clue for you)
stawmy 1 year ago
Ah, still at it i see...
As regards Steorn, you are correct, i have researched their Orbo & the learning modules & it's not even worth a school science project. Searl, no proof as yet, so it may be labelled as Debunked.
However, Aspden can in no way be regarded as an 'antigravity crackpot'-unlike Searl, his theory is sound & easily explained, he calls it 'modern aether theory' but you may also call it 'the Higgs field rediscovered' or 'how to bridge the huge gaps in QT, EM & Gravity'
stawmy 1 year ago
@stawmy Aspden's theory is sound? Sure, assume that 'quantity-X' exists and has certain properties and one can prove anything that one wishes. There remains the 'small' problem however of proving that X exists. Did you know that Aspden is the proud co-patentee of a ludicrous gyroscopic flying saucer?. This was, apparently, a 'spoiler' which was inspired by Laithwaite's patent (I have copies of all of the private correspondence between the 2 groups and the Patent Office ... very funny)
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower No, i didn't know that, i would have to see the plans before i passed any judgement on it. What i find ludicrous is that they can spend billions of taxpayers money looking for the elusive Higgs particle. Have they found it yet?
As i've stated before, nearly ALL inventions are the result of lone 'crackpot' inventors,often funding themselves,often laughed at by 'mainstream' scientists.
By that i mean people conditioned to say yes, to accept 'facts' based on assumtion not observation
stawmy 1 year ago
@stawmy You have to see plans before deciding to agree that gyroscopes cannot levitate? Jeez! Look them up anyway. It is very easy to find patents nowadays using Google. When I first started collecting crackpot antigravity patents, I had to travel hundreds of miles, do hand-searches and pay £thousands in fees! I can think of only one once-derided 'crackpot' who pioneered an invention that was contrary to known science, and that was Stanford Ovshinsky. Who are the others?
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower No, i do not. People misinterpret Laithwaite's work, he showed the absence of a force, not it's presence. Once you have acheived levitation (by other means) the gyroscope action is absolutely necessary for inertia control.Yes i collect these plans as a matter of course, i now have an extensive collection, most of which are unworkable. Some are worthy of attention, these candidates often get swallowed up by military black ops (then you KNOW it's worth investigating:)
stawmy 1 year ago
@stawmy He did nothing of the sort; he rarely conducted proper experiments and instead employed demonstrations that were designed to exploit the ignorance of the audience. One trick was to claim that ice-on-ice was a very low-friction system and would therefore easily reveal the centrifugal force (which he claimed did not exist). In fact, ice-on-ice is a very poor choice in this case because it pressure-welds at low relative velocities. BTW, that brings up an interesting resonance: Davy ...
flowerbower 1 year ago
@stawmy [cont] conned his way into the Royal Institution on the basis of ice-friction experiments which he had supposedly performed. It was shown some 60 years ago that his experiment could not have been performed and that he must have faked the data. Davy was a somewhat sleazy character: stealing the credit for the lamp that bears his name, and trying to steal credit from Faraday. But sleaze pervades the RI: check the bio of Count Rumford!
And now you think that the military mind is a ...
flowerbower 1 year ago
@stawmy [cont] is a good judge of scientific matters? Have you seen the film, "The Men that Stare at Goats?" That was based upon fact. That is how crackpots survive: good scientists tend to eschew positions of power, leaving inadequately knowledgeable people to spot crackpots. The latter then suffer from 'the Beatles Effect': backing crazy projects because they are scared of being forever castigated as the one that turned something good down.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@stawmy Of course, Aspden does not limit himself to antigravity; he brings his ignorance of physics (being a mere electrical engineer) to bear on a range of subjects. He claims for instance that non-focussing optical devices are over-unity, and passed patents by 2 different inventors both of whom claimed to be able to measure the Earth's absolute velocity. He was also very quick to jump on the cold-fusion band-wagon (he was, after all, working in the same university as Fleischman).
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower I don't know about non focusing devices, but i do know about CCD technology, every single digital camera on the planet has a chip that shows overunity properties-but no-one's doing any research on it (as far as i'm aware of).
Now why is that?
As for cold fusion, not my field, but i do read Naudin's notes from time to time :)
stawmy 1 year ago
@stawmy I edit a journal which deals with state-of-the-art semiconductor research. In what weird alternative universe can CCD's be construed to be perpetual-motion devices? Perhaps, like Henry Oman the IEEEE writer/editor who thinks that many electrical devices break the laws of thermodynamics, you have also failed to define input and output properly.
Naudin is a crackpot.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower Perpetual motion is one thing, Something that has no real purpose unless it has over unity. Good luck. The load cannot be stronger than the torque of the device (mechanical) If the load is not, is it providing more output than input? Is the energy required to make that torque less than the output drain on the device. The more load the more torque required to keep the device (mechanical) going... The Laws of physics say it is not possible, but, the world was once flat, if that helps.
luc59457 1 year ago
@luc59457 I am not quite sure what your point is, but the fact that you are using load, energy and torque in such an indiscriminate manner suggests that you are making the common error of confusing energy and power. That error once caused a perpetual motion machine to be defended all the way up to the US Supreme Court. It lost.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower What I said was quite clear, Perpetual motion is something that has no real purpose unless it provides over unity.
luc59457 1 year ago
@luc59457 Yes, I got that bit. It was the load, torque, energy part that was confused. I should explain that I use 'perpetual motion' in a derogatory fashion to deride any such crackpot scheme. Of course, theoretically, a system with no losses will just keep going forever. However, that is never what the crackpots promise: they always claim to get out more energy than was put in (or was there to begin with). That is impossible, and anybody who claims to have succeeded is a madman or a crook.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower If the so called extra energy was there to begin with, it is not extra energy. Not sure why you added that because it is not impossible.
luc59457 1 year ago
@luc59457 I am 'bending over backwards' to be fair and allowing proponents of over-unity to admit that they might simply be performing the 'energy audit' incorrectly.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@luc59457 I am not quite sure what your point is, but the fact that you are using load, energy and torque in such an indiscriminate manner suggests that you are making the common error of confusing energy and power. That error once caused a perpetual motion machine to be defended all the way up to the US Supreme Court. It lost.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower Do you want to spell check me next.. I know what I am talking about and what I said was quite clear.
luc59457 1 year ago
@luc59457 He's going to throw the Oxford English at you :) We've been over this a zillion times (probably comment 1700 area)-Energy=ability to do work, power=work done/time. However, we can only measure the observable energy in a system, any 'overunity' device is merely allowing more energy to be observed (or used), that energy is & always has been right there, we have therefore broken no laws i.e. thermodynamics. Work implies an energy transfer from A to B, electrical, mechanical etc
stawmy 1 year ago
@stawmy Clear as mud. Now it looks as if you are moving the goal-posts by re-defining input and output. That reminds me of a notorious 'car that runs on water' from the 1970s. The mechanical energy put out was indeed higher than what the batteries could have supplied. The excess was coming from the gradual destruction of the motor itself! I suspect that a similar process explains supposedly over-unity steam-generators.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower if you are as smart as you think you are, you will be able to figure it out. As for the Royal Society, it does not matter if your science is good or bad, you just have to know the right handshakes:) Of course, you don't have to look far to find an object that is perpetually moving, it's called an electron.......
stawmy 1 year ago
@stawmy Ah, the conspiracy-excuse again: now the RS is supposed to be run by Freemasons, is it? In fact, I don't have much respect for that society ever since it went against its own motto (Nulla in Verba) and devoted an entire issue of the Proceedings to the pseudoscience of ball-lightning,
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower Really? I think i will join them:)
stawmy 1 year ago
@stawmy Reading that issue would be a good start: one of the papers looked as if it had been re-printed from a ufology magazine.
Another sign of the down-market plunging of the RS is that it recently awarded a prize to a school-teacher (Kerry Pendergast qv) who spends his time singing the praises of one DrMyron Evans. The latter has set up a company to develop PM and antigravity machines and, horror of horrors, is the only scientist receiving a Civil-List Pension (the reward given to Faraday)!
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower I don't subscribe to Evans' theories, he seems a bit of a crackpot to me....
stawmy 1 year ago