The End of Suburbia

[carmygraph]

.....and then we mock government when there's electricity failure, but we in the community dont wanna do our part in looking after what we have.... imagine if we were given a lot of new things, buildings etc. how long would it last before it starts looking like the old ones? just cos we cant do a little bit by looking after what we have, saving water and electricity, walking? its the little things that brings the bigger picture together

[Stealthkeys77]

As a town planner for 10 years I soon discovered urban sprawl was due to 2 simple yet striking problems. (1) Developers manipulate councils via donations to get what they want. (2) Governments due to cost cutting gladly accept these donations and bend over backwards for developers. Who are the losers ?? Its the community and the environment. When I challenged the system I was told that I had "no right" to make community decisions !?!? Hey - "town planning" is supposed to be about community !!?!!

[chadberry75]

future?..will see when fuel is $2.00 a litre...

[Awhitespot]

@photolitherland im new to the suburbs bro, i grew up in the ghetto, and now i have to take the bus all around the city being happy and then once i get home to my gay ass suburban house, stinking up the whole area with the smell of weed

[angel55676]

In Sydney, people living in, for instance Newington, can WALK to their local shopping centre through the park, interacting with people, burning calories, and enjoying the fresh air. And while a lot of local malls in LA like to stock a Wal-Mart, in Newington, Sydney, you catch a bus to Parramatta and go shopping for clothes in the Myer, DJs, Big W, or K-Mart, and again, NOT DRIVING. Then catch a bus back at the transport interchange, and getting back. All this while, you have not polluted.

[angel55676]

...And still improving mass transit and public transport in these areas and teaching and bringing the advantages of choosing public transport over cars. Now, for shopping 4 groceries in LA, people drive to their local strip mall, shop, and drive back, which means polluting, no interaction with people, and weight gain by maybe stopping at the McDonalds there.

[angel55676]

Sydney has taken a great approach to this issue. We are now going through our last stages of sprawl in the north-west and south-west. While we shouldn't be sprawling anymore anyway, these new suburbs are completely and efficiently covered by public transport including the construction of new rail lines, building away from highways and major roads rather than on them, and building high-rises and apartments in major areas outside of the city centre, such as Chatswood, Penrith, Parramatta...

[bmp456]

Suburbia has become the American nightmare.

[mollyjeorgensen]

Kill it with fire.

[shanintrevino]

Tru Story; there's more drugs out to suburbia than in the city...just saying yanno? I was asked 15 times while shopping if I wanted anything...just nuts...the city is safer...

[InfiniteMushroom]

In defense of Suburbia, it was a great thing in the 1950's and 1960's when the growth was limited by the 20% down requirement and proving one's creditworthiness. Easy credit and the Fair Housing Act were the seeds of destruction to classic American Suburbia.

Whites fled their post-WW2 housing developments for higher priced neighborhoods, trying to buy distance between them and minorities who moved into their old neighborhoods. The price of White Flight drove the first housing bubble in the 1980s

[Argo108]

bah the city in general is dull and prison like. Thats why I fuck off whenever I can to far away places.

[AroundSun]

Suburbs here on Long Island aren't bad. I wouldn't want to live in any other part of the country in the suburbs though. If I am going to have a house in a rural area it is going to have acres and acres of cheap land away from everyone. Not suburbs in the middle of freaking nowhere that would suck.

[kcphaid]

"The sky is falling"

[SpecOpsFilms]

Whats the Point Of This Video,It Has A Future,I Want to Live in Suburbia.

[Knossos22]

@SpecOpsFilms

Before you assume Suburbia has a future and you want to live in it Watch the film:

watch?v=sXQE8NqkDk0&feature=re­lated

Then ask if Suburbia actually has a future...

[MrDynamicpulse]

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[rickster348]

you can have the cities,

and what's coming.

[dave19941000]

I get lost every time I go into a suburb, even if I'm using a map.

[iphoneguy2012]

doomocRATS love trains should let them play as kds

[Evergr3entree]

The fall of Capitalism. :D

[Audiomuse]

New urbanism!

[iphoneguy2012]

@Audiomuse we need more clean oil and gas NOT gm little plug in junk

[Audiomuse]

@iphoneguy2012 We need that too.. but we also need newer developments to be built to accommodate walking and bicycling to get to places

[xxx2397]

@iphoneguy2012 wtf is clean oil, thats like dry water

[pengee0419]

Not me I live on 42 acres of land and my nearest neighbor is about a 1/2 mile away. I love it

[treefingers1206]

@pengee0419 that's not suburbia. and that sounds awesome.

[skramys]

I can not say it better than choi4816. Spent two years in japan walking around looking slim women and came back to the human lard piles in the us suburbs

[363Simba]

I love the suburbs!

[score956]

Suburbia will never die, as horrible as it is, americans wont change until they are forced to.

[matchbox555]

we just need to build more nuclear plants thats all

[choi4816]

I am in the suburbs now after living in vibrant cities in asia and America, and I think the suburbs will be the end of me. Living in the suburbs is a slow brain melting, spirit crushing death................

[TheYaom]

@choi4816 try living in european cities and becoming used to parks, interesting pedestrians, street art, mopeds, street markets, outdoor cafes, colorful little stores with their very own character and identity...... and then moving to a damn suburbia near raleigh NC where the most artistic thing around is a damn walmart and its fat customers!

[choi4816]

@TheYaom Try walking around in asian cities like Tokyo, Seoul, or Bangkok and being constantly blown away by all the incredibly beautiful and slim women every time I took a walk, compared to being almost ran over by human lard piles every time I walk around an isle at the grocery store here in the suburban wasteland.

[TTOMO]

I think I know which Wal Mart that is, it's on the Coquitlam/Burnaby border, suburbs of Vancouver. I don't shop there, though.

[MrEnergyCzar]

and china is trying to replicate this model....

[zukomatico]

the ghilthi was le corbusier  stupid french he said who the car was a profit to the humanity FUCKIU LE CORBUSIER

[doesurmindglow]

@zukomatico Yeah. Few realize that suburbia was not a "natural" phenomenon. It was the creation of a central planning regime that was inspired by Le Corbusier. Basically, he thought it up, and government spending combined with zoning regulation made it a reality.

The "free market" had little to nothing to do with it.

[TheYaom]

@zukomatico actually le corbusier was Swiss! not french.

[MrEnergyCzar]

From one of the greatest movies ever made......I converted my home to a net-zero solar powered home that uses no oil or gas...I made a video about it called, "Preparing for Peak Oil".....

[rocketlauncher2]

Suburbia is just convenient and safe. I really don't think it's going to "collapse", it's just housing is getting so bland with tract housing. It can be depressing

[TenderTrap86]

@photolitherlad

Thanks for the Pete Seeger reference. If you would really like to see a music video outlining how pathetic contemporary society has become in recent decades I suggest searching "mes aieux, degenerations".

[TenderTrap86]

The American way of life has been an illusion since after WWII and even more so in the past 35 years when this nation's money was taken off of a gold standard. Is this way of life sustainable? Is it normal? Is what we delusionaly think of as the American dream what life is really about? Hope to God that it's not.

[3rdMayhem]

this way of life wasnt an illusion back then as resouces + energy were cheap and plentyful as hell. Plus suburbanism + car industry created million of jobs so came a boost for the national economy and in result a wonderful life standard - but sadly most humans on earth never believe in the finiteness of something as long it works out pretty well. So we party on untill hangovers are inevitable. And USA will have a BIGASS one!

[TenderTrap86]

@3rdmayhem

America isn't only going to have a hangover. It's going to need it's stomach pumped.

[3rdMayhem]

yea and i guess china will pay for the hospital stay ;)

[TenderTrap86]

Oh, man. When it comes to China, I'll quote Napoleon "It is a sleeping dragon. And when it awakes, the world will tremble."

[anthonym267]

@TenderTrap86 It has awaken

[stevemallen1]

It's true Suburbia is a boring, car dependent, strip mall... I grew up in the Suburbs before leaving for downtown Portland Oregon and I have never looked back.

[anythingnew]

I can't wait till the day everyone fuckin walks.

[92451721921892113]

that day has come and gone why even in the ancient days we had animals, slaves, workers men an women, paid or not paid to carry and transport others around the world

[zukomatico]

@anythingnew I LIVE NEAR OF THE DOWN TOWN OF Y MY CITY AND I DONT MOVE IT

[circusboy90210]

@anythingnew keep your wishes to yourself

[bublycat]

@anythingnew I'll pass that bit of info onto my housemate... oh wait, he's in a wheelchair and can't walk.

[mapsnaps]

@anythingnew I'll pass that bit of info onto my house mate... oh wait, he's in a wheelchair and can't walk.

[anythingnew]

@mapsnaps

I don't think our forefathers gave a hoot. They probably suffered more than we did. Traveling back then was dangerous and they all managed to do it. Even very high officials had to walk from place to place or by horse, and they had to share carriages with poor people too. Everything was miserable. Now your friend has wheelchairs. Did they have that back then? No. They got canes and crutches.

[m3RacerBitch]

@anythingnew I can't wait till you walk and I drive past you in the rain!

[anythingnew]

@m3RacerBitch

Where will you get fuel for your car? You'll be walking sooner or later too buddy.

[m3RacerBitch]

@anythingnew the gas station where else moron.....

[anythingnew]

@m3RacerBitch

They're going to run out too!

[m3RacerBitch]

@anythingnew RUN OUT???

Are you retarded?

There's 300 years of reserve plus what we still a lot we haven't discovered

I'm sure you will be ok that the Russians, Chinese, Brazil take it will be ok with you...

[nextlifeguitarist]

@m3RacerBitch i hope you are right but........reports from IEA 2010, CIA, US NAVY and US ARMY are speaking in a opposite way....very opposite.

I leave to your imagination what CIA is suggesting to government....

[m3RacerBitch]

@nextlifeguitarist your one retarded moron us navy, army what the fuck are you high??? WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANY FUCKING THING?

[nextlifeguitarist]

@m3RacerBitch a imdecille ritardato idiota figlio di una cagna bastarda in calore e di un padre cornuto inculato da una banda di negri di harlem,,what match us navy and us army? what an idiot you are? where do you live in wonderland stupid bitch? you don't know that us army and us navy have special offices to study the availability of natural resources in the world? do you know that US ARMY officers are saying that in the next 10 years military operations will have serious problem cause of oil!

[nextlifeguitarist]

@m3RacerBitch and also stupid retarded idiot...do you know the meaning of 'buyback'? for sure no like an ignorant you are.....try to read the IEA outlook 2010 if you are able to read, i doubt, and try to find how many new oil carriers are on the way no one, why if oil demand is growing?and also.....try to find what Cheney said ten years ago about oil!,,,,,you are so retarded and idiot that also you don't know what your government is saying? the world is not PSA3 stupid bitch

[nextlifeguitarist]

@m3RacerBitch may be a school for retarded people can help you, if not please, shoot y0urself in the head, world doesn't need stupid guy like you and, just for start, be prepared for a dollar crash in a short time , you will get what you deserve BITCH!

[m3RacerBitch]

@nextlifeguitarist oh yeah I'll be watching out since some loser that can't afford to live in a nice neighborhood mumbled something on youtube go suck a dick fag

[Eddyqueens]

@anythingnew

couldn't have said it better

[DeusEbrius]

I fully agree- and sympathize- with you. I grew up in suburbia too. Every house was EXACTLY the same (the floor plans, the paint colors, doors, lawns, etc.) for miles. For god damn miles. I lived on the top of a hill, and I could see exact replicas of my own house in every direction. It was all I could see. (did anyone REALLY expect me to do anything but smoke weed all day everyday while there?)

[stevemallen1]

I think you need to stop watching "Weeds"

[DeusEbrius]

Never seen it, actually.

[theREALdrugfacts]

hahaha good one

[mnmhgbns]

i agree

[swordstool]

That was good until the end, the guys statements are totally baseless.

[reppin49dank]

most people do not live in large large citys like houston or nyc, most live in smaller citys and areas around the metropolotian area

[acsial]

All you greenies who hate urban sprawl need to face the cause: mass immigration.

Developments don't just 'form'--IMMIGRANTS (legal and illegal), mostly from developing countries, provide the ever-expanding warm body-supply of fecund foreigners to keep the developers in business.

Developers give a LOT of money to parties like the Democrats (and ex-prez Dubya), to liberalize immigration laws.

When Mexico implodes, you people are going to end up with a HORRENDOUS immigrant influx/sprawl problem.

[bananian]

It's those who dislike the immigrants who move out. Immigrants usually stay near the core where they work since they can't afford a car.

[acsial]

One big myth is the 'poor immigrant'. In Canada, the easiest ticket in is the Immigrant Entrepreneur Programme. $400k & you're in. BTW, there is a huge problem in Canada with these people, mostly South Asians, importing cheap labour from their home countries & mistreating them (witholding passports, &c.). Immigration lawyers ain't pro bono...

All those detatched homes in Springdale, the NE of Calgary, &c. are quite well-off suburban ghettos of East and South Asians. And yes--they drive SUVs...

[goldgrif]

all you failures of thinking need to understand the major problem is not immigrantion, and if you are against immigration go back home

[acsial]

Immigration is just a symptom of runaway population growth. People in developing countries (i.e., the ones who DIDN'T fight in WWI-II, with all the social changes--women working, &c.--that total war entailed) haven't whittled down their birthrates, in keeping with advances like immunization & potable, cholera-free water. The result was a population explosion that a lot of those people are fleeing--looking for less labour competition & crime, & more 'Lebensraum'. The result is urban sprawl, HERE.

[goldgrif]

true, what the sad thing is people dont have the basic intelligence to understand the reasons for the situations that are developing in the real world, just listening to beck, limbaugh and other idiots, the effects of rampant capitalism, the effectes of even humanitarism is coming back to roost

Thanks for your input

[stevemallen1]

Actually, no, suburbia is fueled by the lie of an "American Dream" that has fallen flat on it's face.. the history behind suburban development began long ago and had nothing to do with Mexico. Do some research before making ignorant inflammatory remarks.

[acsial]

By my Mexican comment I meant that there are very large numbers of Mexican 'refugees' (middle to upper-class) fleeing 'general criminality', which will become a torrent when the government fails & a PRI-style narco regime takes over again. These people do NOT want to live in high-density apartments, any more than 'native' Northerners.

Regardless of how dense you build housing, you are going to use more land & water (directly & for food production). POPULATION GROWTH drives urban sprawl, period.

[bananian]

That's exactly right.

The suburb is suppose to be the escape from the crammed city during the industrial revolution. Then, it went on overdrive.

[acsial]

Density isn't a natural human condition. This is why all the New Urbanists (developers, David Suzuki & Al Gore), who tell mere mortals that they have to live in high-rises, have sprawling country estates. In a disaster, evacuating carless, dense areas is a nightmare...

People ignore the sprawl that's happening in places like France & Denmark. There, whole suburbs are filled with immigrants on WELFARE. Again, the reason for bringing in all those people was to justify development of those 'burbs.

[acsial]

Most people prefer LOW-density living arrangements. This is a basic animal instinct for territoriality. Not that the little girl in 'Miracle on 34th Street' wanted to move into a HOUSE. Mr Greenie David Suzuki has a sprawling estate in the BC rainforest.

As for European 'burbs (or Jane & Finch, which was a Toronto-area farm), there was no need to bring these people in, in the first place. No Molotov-tossing, never-emplyed North Africans, no banlieues. PEOPLE cause urban sprawl--end of story.

[bjmccullough]

no...wrong cheap oil made it possible...that is over now...get a bike and pedal

[bananian]

The suburb houses where I live cost around 750, 000 CDN. I highly doubt poor Mexicans could afford that.

This is more a class issue than racial. Middle and upper class tend to live out in suburbs b/c they could afford it as well as SUVs. It just so happens that many of them are immigrants but there are also white ppl.

If you are trying to blame immigrants for being rich, then all I can say is that white ppl got to work harder, lol.

[acsial]

Again, you're assuming that immigrants are 'poor'. To reiterate: the fastest ticket through the immigration system (at least in Canada) is wealth. The wealthy of failing states tend to get out first.

You're also assuming that this wealth was obtained through honest means. Chinese Triads have set up shop here in Canada, bringing in drug money to launder. Canada's ludicrous assylum laws & utter lack of security (CSIS estimates only 10% of LEGAL immigrants are screened) let organized crime in.

[TheDystopiaInside]

WEIRD, divided responses to this video...

First of all I'm a liberal and I hate the city AND I live in one. It's not just the crime, the pollution, the jerks, the traffic, the blight, its all of this and the atmosphere.

On the other hand I hate suburbia almost as much, I hate the mindset of some suburban people, not all.

I live in the city but I'd prefer the country. I like the idea of being able to enjoy nature, have space, a yard, privacy and quiet.

[extra1234567891]

we need more prodjects

[nufive1]

you know there is a great book "The End of Cities". There are far more problems in liberal wonderland cities than suburbs.. You waste ten times more gas looking for a parking space and three times more time in a city than a suburb.

[dicotomie]

you're missing a large point of getting rid of suburbia - and its to drive LESS.

[funcuz]

Well imagine you didn't have to find a parking space in the first place.

[scotplaya]

You forget cities like new york and san francisco have public transportation that saves money from gas and car insurance. You also should know most deaths in America are caused by freeway accidents usually caused by SUVs. A car usually driven by Suburban parents.

[TruthMeansLiberty]

Definitely the story of the week was the astounding revelation of

of senior Nasa official Clark McClelland.

McClelland supported astronaut Ed Mitchell's claim that the military was interacting with alien races.

McClelland revealed that he saw an 8 to 9 ft tall alien in the shuttle docking bay on his monitor during a classified shuttle mission.

He also witnessed a UFO locked in a stationary orbit with the shuttle.

You can find the link at;

hismailroomDOTcom

[extra1234567891]

u know all the dangerous parts of Los angeles are suburban

[TheMeltinJohnShow]

And its whats making California a fucking hellhole.

[ghbarnes]

oh yeah - those evil Greens who are worried about the oil running out...and who are so powerful that they will reshape the world into a 'socialist utopia'? What's wrong with that compared to global capitalism??? Coronet67 you just go on believing everything centres around you and that there won't be any problems because oil is not running out. It's all fine and we will go on living the way you believe things 'should be'.

[NowThatsTalent1344]

BOMB THE SUBURBS!

[crazychrisva]

GO BOMB YOUR SELF!!!!

[coronet67]

Liberal elitists love to interpret reality for us and define how things "should be". The extreme green movement loves peak oil because it is a tool to reshape the world into a socialist utopia.

[unfillecommemoi]

It's the end of suuburbia as we know it.

It must be hard living in suburbs, and working in the city.

As of now, living in the city signifies a higher economic/social status. Families living in suburbs can now be deemed as middle to low classes, unlike the 1950s (Levittown, etc.).

[TheMeltinJohnShow]

Also the city makes it easier to make friends. Cant ever have the same opportunities in the fucking burbs.

Clueless americans who buy in them need a hard lesson.

[TheNauseator]

American "cars" today:

5-liter V8 4x4 truck, about 9 miles/gallon, one occupant, the truck is driven empty some 90% of the time.

Don't complain about your long drives to work and high fuel prices. These are just natural consequences of driving irrational vehicles. 40+ years of energy waste came back to bite us. You don't need a V8-powered truck to bring the groceries home, and you don't need a 10-room house to live in!

[aldurthedrowshade]

It's a sign of status, smartstuff.

[davidsghost]

I try not to live in a city or subs but at least close enough to get in if I need to, I don't want to live like a hurmit, BUT, I don't want to like in a suburb or deep in the city because if there is a panic from a disaster everyone would be stomping on each other to get out, people would fight over food, and kill you for your shoes so they can run away. Specially NYC where you have a lot of snotty uppity and yet uneducated people who know more about clothes and pizza than educational things.

[P0YKPAC]

sounds like you really know a lot about NYC...

[TheMeltinJohnShow]

Stoooppiiidddd hipssttteerrrsssss.

[usernameavilable]

"Put electric rail and electric trolley buses down all those highways. Ban SUVs, Small light weight electric cars for personal transport. AND SAVE THE OIL FOR CENTURIES OF AIR AND SEA TRANSPORT!"

LOL okay nub-tard, how do you propose building and sustaining this complete rapid infrastructure change? dumbass. This oil age is a the peak of our society and can not be mimicked once peak oil is past far enough, nothing can bring back our standard of living. 90% of people reading this will die off.

[texan176]

I've seen this film and they have it all down right except the part where they say suburbia will go away gradually as energy prices soar.

I think when diesel hits $10 a gallon the big rigs come to a hault, food on store shevles vanishes in 2 days, and then there is total anarhcy that even martial law will be unable to contain within 10-14 hours.

[Elg1no]

damn you are short thinking.

[crazychrisva]

He is only short thinking to the liberal elitists.

[poshko41]

"America took all its postwar wealth and invested it in a living arrangement that has no future."

The irony and tragedy of it all is almost comical.

[ruckrover8]

Put electric rail and electric trolley buses down all those highways. Ban SUVs, Small light weight electric cars for personal transport. AND SAVE THE OIL FOR CENTURIES OF AIR AND SEA TRANSPORT!

[CliqueIci1]

GM was successful by being able to monopolize the auto industry,with the help of politicians.Before GM came to rule the auto industry,the public transport systems of trams was theMode ofTransportation for people.Under mngment of A.P.Sloan,GM became"the most successful enterprise the world had ever known."While under the leadership of Sloan many public transport system trams were replaced by buses.This conspiracy wasto increase automobile sales.Basically cars will not be replace even if we wanted

[crazychrisva]

You sound like a communist, small light weight cars (hatchbacks) have no style, or elegance, compact and mid size cars do.

Sea transport could go nuclear. Air, well land transport is just as important as Air.

[secretmachines777]

What does style have to do with anything?

Technology is not moving fast enough to solve global warming and peak oil on its own. We must also take resposibility for our own actions. Name calling only prevents people from truly seeing how their actions affect others.

Your car use AFFECTS my health and my childrens' future.