But I do think that men and women should be equal, not have one gender supreme over another. Yes, men and women have their physical and mental differences but that does not mean that one is 'better' than the other, even though we all joke of it. I find it highly hypocritical that no one cares that girls can do sports, wear jeans, play with cars, etc yet boys can't be anything close to effeminate without ridicule, for instance.
@nightinthetwilight Not a conspiracy theory at all. *Conspiracy* theory?? Huh? How so, exactly?
The rest of your comment is irrelevant and boring. Nobody is interested in listening to that old, old tripe, for it does not interest us to engage the feminist narrative on any level at all. We've had half a century of that, and it is time to strike out on a very different road.
@fidelbogen thanks for shutting down her programming for what it is. people repeat the same crap and dont realize how much of a drone they sound like....extremely tiring to hear over and over again and we all sound robotic if we say it
@fidelbogen So you're saying that you want to revert back to the time when women were owned by their fathers/husbands? Yeah, that's never going to happen.
And you don't even seem to want to participate in any kind of dialogue unless it pats your own ass or agrees with you.
@nightinthetwilight It is not a "fact" that women were ever "owned" by fathers/husbands. It is only a claim which certain people have made, and it can be disputed. So please don't confuse facts with claims.
@fidelbogen Yes, they were owned by their husbands. Marriage was a deal between two men to strengthen political bonds or business deals. Women had little to no rights.
@nightinthetwilight You do realize your pathetic strawman is borderline libel. Easy for you to try this slander bullshit hiding behind an anonymous username.
@nightinthetwilight Why would men even want to do enything effeminate? Women are attracted to maleness, not to femininity. Lesbians and women with submissive fathers are the exception of course.
@NudistInTheRye Because gender can't be defined as purely male or female. There are some men that are born effeminate, and can be considered hetero, bi, or gay. The reverse can also be said of women. Some men might even just feel more comfortable being effeminate. The whole 'leaking testosterone or gay' attitude is really tiresome.
Steinem's idea of feminism meant a woman had to be pro-abortion, anti-family and anti-man -- anti-anything moral! I always believed that feminism was about what a woman wanted to do. That meant a woman had the right to make a choice. Palin and Bachmann are true feminists. They are pro-life, pro-family and they made it in a man’s world without invoking the victim status! Steinem is more about politics than about feminist! As far as eco-feminism? Learn about United Nations Agenda 21.
Kinda sounds like a bad conspiracy theory to me.
But I do think that men and women should be equal, not have one gender supreme over another. Yes, men and women have their physical and mental differences but that does not mean that one is 'better' than the other, even though we all joke of it. I find it highly hypocritical that no one cares that girls can do sports, wear jeans, play with cars, etc yet boys can't be anything close to effeminate without ridicule, for instance.
nightinthetwilight 2 months ago
@nightinthetwilight Not a conspiracy theory at all. *Conspiracy* theory?? Huh? How so, exactly?
The rest of your comment is irrelevant and boring. Nobody is interested in listening to that old, old tripe, for it does not interest us to engage the feminist narrative on any level at all. We've had half a century of that, and it is time to strike out on a very different road.
Nice try at derailment, though.
fidelbogen 2 months ago 2
@fidelbogen thanks for shutting down her programming for what it is. people repeat the same crap and dont realize how much of a drone they sound like....extremely tiring to hear over and over again and we all sound robotic if we say it
patriciacarrasco 2 months ago
@fidelbogen So you're saying that you want to revert back to the time when women were owned by their fathers/husbands? Yeah, that's never going to happen.
And you don't even seem to want to participate in any kind of dialogue unless it pats your own ass or agrees with you.
nightinthetwilight 1 month ago
@nightinthetwilight
It sounds like you are not paying attention.
Prove that I said what you say I said.
Go ahead. PROVE it.
But you won't, because you can't.
Because I never said any such thing.
But go ahead and prove it.
fidelbogen 1 month ago
@nightinthetwilight It is not a "fact" that women were ever "owned" by fathers/husbands. It is only a claim which certain people have made, and it can be disputed. So please don't confuse facts with claims.
fidelbogen 1 month ago
@fidelbogen Yes, they were owned by their husbands. Marriage was a deal between two men to strengthen political bonds or business deals. Women had little to no rights.
nightinthetwilight 2 weeks ago
@nightinthetwilight Then you are using a "rubber" definition of 'ownership.'
It's amazing what you can do with rubber semantics.
fidelbogen 2 weeks ago
@nightinthetwilight You do realize your pathetic strawman is borderline libel. Easy for you to try this slander bullshit hiding behind an anonymous username.
AlekNovy 1 month ago
@AlekNovy Alek, you showed up very quickly. ;)
fidelbogen 1 month ago
@AlekNovy You do the same thing :/
nightinthetwilight 2 weeks ago
@nightinthetwilight We have had a half-century of patting feminism on the ass and agreeing with it, so time for a change of pace, eh?
fidelbogen 1 month ago
@nightinthetwilight Your reference to women being "owned" , whether true or otherwise, is not relevant to the matter under discussion.
Derail fail.
fidelbogen 2 weeks ago
@nightinthetwilight Your reference to women being "owned" , whether true or otherwise, is not relevant to the matter under discussion.
Derail fail.
fidelbogen 2 weeks ago
@nightinthetwilight Why would men even want to do enything effeminate? Women are attracted to maleness, not to femininity. Lesbians and women with submissive fathers are the exception of course.
NudistInTheRye 2 months ago
@NudistInTheRye Because gender can't be defined as purely male or female. There are some men that are born effeminate, and can be considered hetero, bi, or gay. The reverse can also be said of women. Some men might even just feel more comfortable being effeminate. The whole 'leaking testosterone or gay' attitude is really tiresome.
nightinthetwilight 1 month ago
Steinem's idea of feminism meant a woman had to be pro-abortion, anti-family and anti-man -- anti-anything moral! I always believed that feminism was about what a woman wanted to do. That meant a woman had the right to make a choice. Palin and Bachmann are true feminists. They are pro-life, pro-family and they made it in a man’s world without invoking the victim status! Steinem is more about politics than about feminist! As far as eco-feminism? Learn about United Nations Agenda 21.
vechorik 6 months ago
This is one of the best arguments for MGTOW! Keep the great videos coming.
llgreenmega 7 months ago