Is Joel channeling Stuart Smalley? It's no secret.

[slj121557]

Hmmmmm...... interesting juxtaposition.

You almost scared me away in your beginning communiqué with that "shape-shifting" thingy you were doing. But, then I thought that must be part of the whole intended dissemination.I wasn't sure if you were being acrimonious, or 'what' ?

Then...... WOW ! You turned it all around in the end , to something I honestly didn't

even see coming.

[Rubend74]

LAME!

[shizzleman8]

I'm not a big Osteen fan but One HUGE difference between him and the rest of this hootenany is that he doesn't take a salary and hasn't for years!!! Even Jesus had a treasurer. If you shut your yap and open your ears and your mind you might acutally learn something.

[blorgensteen]

@shizzleman8 so he doesn't draw a salary, bfd.

there's more than one way to be paid.

or does an angel come down and take care of his bills and expenses?

[shizzleman8]

@blorgensteen It is a Huge fd!  To me his teaching is directed at motivating the undeducated, he does that very well, "believe that you will be successful, and success will believe in you!". ;-D Everyone in Christianity is "taking" donations though Malachi 3:10, book, chapter, and verse from the Hebrew Bible. If he was like all the rest, I wouldn't have wasted my time pointing out HOW REFRESHING this man of G-d is from the NORM, including Christ!

[blorgensteen]

@shizzleman8 "If he was like all the rest, I wouldn't have wasted my time pointing out HOW REFRESHING this man of G-d is from the NORM, including Christ!"

INCLUDING Christ?

You really need to get you head on straight dude.

[shizzleman8]

@blorgensteen You don't think Jesus took a salary? His disciples were caught stealing and our Lord said, "Look at David and his group stealing the shew bread".  Yeah Jesus, like that justifies it. His followers wanted to cast fire down from heaven on people preaching in HIS NAME! You don't know what spirit you're of. The first thing after Jesus leaves the scene you have 2 murders done at the hand of the Holy Ghost through the Apostle! Ananias and Saphira. Fault Premises or Reasoning please.

[blorgensteen]

@shizzleman8 if you're referring to when the Pharisees got on their case for eating grain from a field, that was for breaking the sabbath, and not for eating hand plucked wheat, which was in keeping with Duet: 23:25 "If you enter your neighbor's grainfield, you may pick kernels with your hands, but you must not put a sickle to his standing grain."

I'm nowhere near being a good Christian, but even I know that much.

maybe you should pay more attention to your bible and less to Joel Onsteen.

[shizzleman8]

@blorgensteen "ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat". This is how Christ justified their breaking the Sabbath, if it wasn't considered stealing there wouldn't be any reason to justify it by what David had done, see?

We don't have examples of Christ casting down fire from heaven to consume souls as we do with the Apostle against Ananias and Saphira. To put it mildly, I don't think the gospel should come with a CHARGE! I hear, listen to, and investigate everything.

[blorgensteen]

@shizzleman8 No, I don't see. Jesus was making a point. David was considered a hero in Israel, and for the priests etc criticise Jesus and His disciples for something allowed under the law when David's "offence" was considerably greater exposedt the hypocrisy of those make the accusations.

Nice try tho'.

[blorgensteen]

@shizzleman8 "To put it mildly, I don't think the gospel should come with a CHARGE! I hear, listen to, and investigate everything."

Matt 7:5

These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As you go, preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.' 8Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

[blorgensteen]

@shizzleman8 "To put it mildly, I don't think the gospel should come with a CHARGE! I hear, listen to, and investigate everything."

I guess my previous post proves that your "investigations" are not as thorough as you would have us believe.

[shizzleman8]

@blorgensteen Sorry, for the third time what I'm saying is right, you're not a Jew, I am. Don't you understand what shizzleman stands for? It's all about breaking the law and stealing. The verse you're pulling out of context has nothing to do with treasurey matters, or law. Freely you have received the power to rasise the dead, so now do it. When we think we're right about something no matter how many times it's explained to us, we still won't get it. You should be paying me for this.

[blorgensteen]

@shizzleman8 "When Jesus said "freely you have recieved, freely give." he meant everything was to be given for free.

yeah, like Shizzleman's a real name. don't make me laugh.

and technically, I am also a jew. get over yourself.

[larapenny]

Isn't it just a watered down, easier to swallow, not so in-your-face, representation of what someone's belief or translation of the bible is in order to keep your attention and reel you in?

[vheilshorn]

Well duh! The Secret and all those 12 step programs that Stuart Smalley is making fun of are all derived from biblical truths. It's not spooky, it's the secular world hijacking the truths of the bible!

[mlac1234]

Love Al Franken! His Stuart character is so brilliant. Osteen and The Secret? Creeeeeepy. And is bad hair a requirement?

[shannonstudio]

i like Joel and the teachings of Christ too. And Jesus isn't the only way to God, holy moley

[cybercab]

@shannonstudio Joel claims to be a Christian but rejects the core tenets of the faith. According to Christianity, Christ is the only way. There aren't multiple paths. I'm not sure what Joel's views are but they do not represent the Bible or Christianity.

[MrDavidleslie]

@cybercab Ha ha, Yeah! Thank "Good (Good-Goodness...)" that The Christ wasn't and isn't a Christian!

[sbrick68]

@shannonstudio How can you like what you don't know? If you think Jesus is not the only way to God, you obviously have not read what He said.

[MrDavidleslie]

I do too ,Joel, but the people of "Christ's" day didn't know any "Jesus;" the English language and 2000 years of religion were yet to try and screw things up again, but Love in Love came/comes and redeems It's BeLoved Creation-because That's what Love does.

Love is the way-and no matter what you call it, or name you give it; Only Love looks like Love, and Love is NOT what Christianity-or any religion, order or society is about. Love Is ALWAYS ...well...LOVING and LOVE-Like.

[jamesglory1]

@Amabosuks. I shall pray for you. Well done for telling the truth of your employment. Hands on truths like yours are welcome and revealing. Bless you and make sure you repent of your complicity at the call center and keep telling people these things.

God bless.

[amabosucks]

Sadly Osteen and the Secret are both so close in common because Osteen teaches garbage and not real theology. I actually work for Osteen and other ministries in a call center. I hate when people for Osteen call in because they normally are donating their mortgage payments to Osteen and then call back a week later in tears asking me to prayer for them because they are about to lose their house because they cant pay the mortgage. Its so sad. I wish these people would wake up to false teachings.

[amabosucks]

Sadly Osteen and the Secret are both so close in common because Osteen teaches garbage and not real theology. I actually work for Osteen and other ministries in a call center. I hate when people for Osteen call in because they normally are donating their mortgage payments to Osteen and then call back a week later in tears asking me to prayer for them because they are about to lose their house because they cant pay the mortgage. Its so sad. I wish these people would wake up to false teachings.

[amabosucks]

@amabosucks I have watched "The secret" to and both of them really are the same. I assure you this teaching your seeing of Osteens is basically how all of his are. Its ridiculous. God willing I will be out of this job soon and then will have a clear conscience that I am no longer stealing money from these poor misguided people. Its being able to pray for there other real needs thats what keeps me from actually going insane.

[zae333]

You, you, you, you, and you some more. Really Mr. Osteen, Where is Christ? With all the "you" in your sermon/motivational speech it does not appear to be much room left for Christ. Outstanding as always bezel.

[SalvationTruth]

Faithfully said 7:50

[Rylucero]

Prophets have been called by God to speak for Him and to be His messenger. God speaks to these men who are commanded to reveal to mankind His plan of salvation, His will, His character, and His truth. A prophet testifies of Jesus Christ as the Son of God, that He died for our sins, they preach of repentance, condemnation, judgment, sin, and eternal torment. These are the things that prophets of God do, but that Joel Osteen as a false prophet does not.

[Rylucero]

The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen on Larry King Live, King asks Joel, What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all? Osteen then responds, you know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know. Joel Osteen by his very words denies that acceptance of Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior is the only way that salvation is possible for the unbeliever.

[Rylucero]

The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen on Larry King Live, King asks Joel, if you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they? Osteen then responds, Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong. But I just think that only God will judge a person's heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don't know all about their religion. But I know they love God. Joel by his own ignorance or deceit equates the god(s) of Hinduism with that of the Lord Jesus Christ!

[Rylucero]

The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen on Larry King Live, King asks Joel, how about issues that the church has feelings about? Abortion? Same-sex marriages? Osteen responds, Yeah. You know what, Larry? I don't go there. King asks, you don't call them sinners? Osteen responds, I don't. King later asks, is that a word you don't use? Osteen responds back, I don't use it.. Although, Joel doesnt use it, the word "sin" appears in the King James Version of the Bible hundreds of times!

[maxheadway]

"Blessed [me] with creativity" - So that's why Osteen rehashes the same old thing each "sermon?"

[fightingmachine1999]

What you say makes no sense at all if Christianity is all about after you die then it would make no sense to live at all,there is nothing wrong with being alive now JOEL TEACHES IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY,NO DOOM AND GLOOM.

[hackiesk]

Thanks or opening my eyes! I like to listen to Joel, but wonder where is more Scripture in his sermons for a preacher?

[novaquatica]

well done bzel my fav part "ooh boy"

[selfexplanitory]

Secret is not a secret, it's the law of attraction....

[Comicvajra]

This is insane - those The Secret people are trying to turn God into some kind of Santa Claus!

[Holy2Yahweh]

Preach it brother! I agree wholeheartedly with what you said at the end of the video. I wonder if Joel has ever read in the Bible "Anyone who desires to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted." I'd also like to see how many from a third world country would buy into his message.

[exilesky]

I agree! I was just looking for Stuart Smalley clips to show my son the similarities - and here this was. Good to know I'm not the only one that noticed.

[escalade80]

I see vague similarities but nowhere near copyright infringement. Total waste of time...

[RustyTBone69]

I like Joel Osteen. He is a true man of God keeping it real. Much better than James Dobson who brags about beating up a little animal and tells the rest of the evil-gelical community to beat up their children. Thanks Joel for you positive Christ like message.

[djhanashiro]

@RustyTBone69 You want to listen to a man of God....listen to John Piper, Paul Washer, Voddie Bauchman, or the best.....Jesus in the gospels...no where will you find Jesus talking like Joel osteen! Just a note...positive isn't mentioned in the bible!

[sandtoscana]

You notice how it is all about Me Myself and I and God plays a supporting role. It's a works based religion that Osteen is preaching. This is not the gospel - not even close. Does he even talk about sin, holiness.  Christians are called to be salt and light yet Osteens message is not distinguishable from the New Age stuff from the other man. Osteen does not preach Christ but then he has said he is not a preacher.

[darkknight91]

He's just another crony from the Word Faith movement. Whenever you hear the words "prosperity and increase", that's a giveaway of who they are. The only ones benefiting from the prosperity and increase are the ones peddling the message.

[selfexplanitory]

?????

[doranda777]

Welcome back bezel333!

[fruitofspirit]

At 4:40 - okay, I officially take any hope of these false prophets realizing their mistakes & coming to repentence. Let them taste the wrath of the God for eternity - for taking the holy message of His risen Saviour & turning it into this material glorification of the human SELF. I have less problem with MARILYN MANSON. At least he does people the courtesy of putting the word: ANTI-CHRIST on all his albums. It's truth in advertising, if nothing else.

[wachteropdemuur]

Good video, bzel33!

This teaching about 'activating dna' is new age and gnostic teaching.

I am doing research and it's interesting how much new age teaching is adopted by ('charismatic') christians. Where is the discernment?

[2222554]

Exactly to, "Where is the discernment?"

[SalvationEternity777]

interesting