Deut 18:18 God = Prophet? Song of Sol 5:16 Whats in a Word

[truthofjesus4all]

Deut 18:15

(Moses said) The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him.

And then in verse 18 God confirmed what Moses told to Israelites. Is truth so hard to see? There is no prophecy about Mohammad if Scriptures are read in context.

[sujwah]

@truthofjesus4all yes its so easy to see its non but mohamed PBUH. it says " among their brothers" who is jews brothers ? decedents of ishameal. and decedent of ishmael has been mention as brothers of jews in other occasions in the bible. remember God did not say " AMONG THEM" he said "AMONG THEIR BROTHERS" :-)

[truthofjesus4all]

@sujwah

Quran 29.27

And We gave (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob, and ORDAINED AMONG HIS PROGENY PROPHETHOOD and Revelation..

Also read Deut 18.15,16, 17 and learn about the context. In v18, God is talking to Moses and addressing Israelites in third person so among "them" or "their brothers" does not change anything. It simply means from the Israelites.

Second, Scriptures already confirmed Jesus as that prophet (John 1:45, John 5.46, John 6.14, Acts 3:22).

Are you greater than Allah?

[sujwah]

@truthofjesus4all yes it DOES make difference when god say "among their Brothers rather than among them when he mentioned in other places in bible, ishmalites as brothers of isrealites. and " also god says "i put my word in his mouth" if you read quran, it's direct words of god passed through mohamed PBUH mouth. not a single word of mohamed there. ..further it goes,( Det 18) "he will speak in my name" every chapter in quran begins "in the name of GOD" and jesus "the man" nothing like moses

[truthofjesus4all]

@sujwah Ishamel was not the only brother of Isaac. The PROMISED son was Isaac. Allah promised that SARAH will bear a son for Abraham. Hope you can understand this truth. The promise of Allah is flowing in the children of Jacob.

It seems you didn't read Deut 18:15-18 and so you repeated your misunderstanding.

There is no good reason by which you can fit mohammad in Deut 18:15/18. 1st understand that.

Quran is word of Allah to Mohammad THROUGH JIBREEL'S MOUTH! That is not God's style!

[sujwah]

@truthofjesus4all quran is word of allah TO "THE WORLD" THROUGH MOHAMED's mouth. yes God promised many prophets through isaac but also says "he will make a great nation into ishmael" many jew scholars believe when god say "nation/kingdom", he means prophethood. jesus said "kingdom of god will taken away from you(jew) and give it to another ppl. then came prophet mohamed a non jew. Duet 18:18 say coming prophet is like moses. Deut 34:10 says there is a no JEW prophet like moses

[truthofjesus4all]

@sujwah

No one denies God making Ishmael's children a great nation. Such is in the Scriptures BUT by promise God's people are Israelites. Deut 18:15-18 does not suggest a prophet outside of among the brothers. You have to investigate more about Messiah in Judaism and OT. Moses talked with God directly and no prophet was like him until Masih came.

Isa came and established kingdom of God for ALL. Jews lost their right. Now there cannot be any other way but through Masih only (Quran 3.55)

[sujwah]

@truthofjesus4all i can prove you that the old testament was altered by jews to suit them and to make isaac as the promised one . i have a very good research side but cant sent a link here so give me your e-mail if your interested. Duet 34:10 says no prophet like moses SINCE . jesus came ONLY for lost sheep of israel. always addressed " oh children of isreal" NOT all mankind. jesus never said I AM God. concept of he is being god introduced 300yrs after jesus. this is truth my friend.

[truthofjesus4all]

@sujwah

I thought I will ask you to send me link to your "research" but you ended your post by claiming Jesus was introduced as God after 300 showed your foolishness.

Brother, don't be offended by my directness. If you can read NT, you will realise that Jesus was more than prophet, the God Himself.

You need EDUCATION not refutation or explanation. Message me on youtube and I will teach you the truth.

Learning is an adventure, try it one day !

Peace.

[sujwah]

@truthofjesus4all O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship, And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, TO YOU BE YOUR WAY , AND TO ME MINE (QURAN Chapter 109) :-)

[truthofjesus4all]

@sujwah

kindly note in your heart that it does not mean you were right. It simply means that you refuse to learn and come closer to the light.

Your choice will decide your end.

If you like, read Luke 4:23-30 and let me know what you learned.

have a blessed day.

Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Read with Quran 3.50, 55.

God bless you.

[sujwah]

@truthofjesus4all i agree jesuus was the way to the children of israel who lived at that time. now the Quran and the prophet mohamed's way of life is the light for the whole human kind. if you read the bible with open mind , you will see that's exactly what jesus said. i am 100% sure i am in the right path. Islam is the only way. and that's the reason why many converts mainly in western countries who reject christianity and turn to the true god ELOH/YAHWEH/ALLAH hope you open your eye. GOODBYE

[truthofjesus4all]

@sujwah

1. Isa Masih is ALIVE today whereas Mohammad is dead. So we should follow the living prophet. (Quran 3.50)

2. Quran 21.91 says that Isa Masih's ministry is for the WHOLE WORLD.

3. Conversion is a matter of personal choice, a basic right which is rejected in Islam. But thousands of Mohammadians choose to follow Isa Masih everyday and be sure that they will go to heaven (Quran 3.55). Are you sure of your end?

Follow Kalimatullah if you know him.

Peace

[HerroHerrar]

@truthofjesus4all you idiot we Muslims follow all gods prophet

[truthofjesus4all]

@HerroHerrar

So how do you follow all prophets?

Do you know David, Suleman, Isa were a JEWS ??? Do you follow Jewish religion?

How do you know what all prophets taught? Do you read injeel, Zabur, Songs of Solomon, and scriptures other than Quran?

U simply believe in Quran and follow Mohammad. You lie when you say you follow all prophets. Unfortunately, you will not grasp that because u do not seek the truth.

have a nice day...

[nicerperson]

You say God cannot be a prophet, it's a logical fallacy. That is your opinion, not proof of any sort, also saying false prophets should be killed, so Jesus being killed meant he was a false prophet, this is a REAL logical fallacy. John the baptist was killed, did that make him a false prophet? many other prophets were killed, does that make them false? no, just because that punishment is stated, does not mean that every prophet killed was false, does it? Mohammad was poisoned too!

[1manmafia]

@nicerperson It's not a logical fallacy you just misunderstand his viewpoint. Muslims do not believe the Prophet Isa(Jesus) was killed, but rather raised unto heaven alive. That alone is a flaw in your argument.

[nicerperson]

@1manmafia what flaw in my argument?

[god cannot be a prophet therefore prophet Jesus cannot be god] = [argument without evidence]

[false prophets must be killed therefore all prophets that were killed were false] = [logical fallacy]

please explain where you think this logic is incorrect? try not to change the subject please.

[1manmafia]

@nicerperson Prophets are humans who speak with God. How can God speak with God?

I don't disagree with the logic behind your second statement at all. The point I am making is that Muslims do not believe Jesus(saw) ever died; you're using an argument that does not make sense when heard from an Islamic point of view.

[nicerperson]

@1manmafia You are right, it doesn't make sense because the Koran denies the Father and the Son. Surah 10:68, 18:4, 19:88, 23:91 etc.

So Jesus being God, God being a prophet , becoming flesh, dying on the cross, or paying for your sins does not make sense as the Koran teaches another gospel.

1Cor 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1John 2:22 He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

[slickrickdarula]

@nicerperson 1John 2:22 He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Indeed, like the people who claim the Father is the Son... did you ever imagine that? Do you understand the word Son as used in the Bible? Son does not always mean genealogy but someone who follows:

Gal 4:7So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

Prov 28:7 Whoever keeps the Law is a wise son: but he that is a companion of riotous men shames his father.

[nicerperson]

@slickrickdarula I'm sorry what's your point? The koran says He begetteth not, nor is He Begotten, yet the bible calls Jesus God's only BEGOTTEN son. Adam was created by God out of dirt not born, the sons of God in Job were created angels, Israel is only metaphorically God's son, believers receive the (Holy) Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father, the point is denying that God begat and saying Jesus is not begotten. 1John 2:22 He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

[nicerperson]

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

[viktermore]

Word in Song of Sol 5:16 is not Muhammad because same word is used in other verses in hebrew bible. This is what it means.

2-Chronicles [36:19]- Muhammad destroyed by fire

1-Kings [20:6] - Muhammad taken away from house

Hosea 9:6 - Muhammad was buried.

[MBI3030]

your video is not clear. The context is very clear. The NT and Jesus said is was He from Deut.18:18. The prophet coming is to be Jewish not arabic. I might many videos about this.

[MrLetsseehere]

Verse 15 say that the prophet would be "miqirbekha" meaning "from the midst of you" that is, Israel. That prophet would be "from the midst of you", and "from your brothers LIKE ME". The last phrase is often broken up but Moses was actually saying that the prophet would be of Israel (the brothers) like Moses was. Moses was of the tribe of Levi (literally from the midst of Israel). Muhammad was an Arab he didn't fit the criteria.

[MrLetsseehere]

@MrLetsseehere

As for the Song of Solomon, everyone knows that it is a stretch b/c it is out of context BY FAR. But one may say "but it sounds the same as Muhammad" well, not actually. It is in the plural which makes it not sound the same anymore. Actually, the word is used more in context of a cursing and calamity than anything else in the Tanach (1Ki_20:6, Isa_64:11, Lam_1:10, Hos_9:6, Joe_3:5, Eze_24:16, Eze_24:21, Eze_24:25, Hos_9:16, 2Ch_36:19, Son_5:16). Go figure.

[1manmafia]

@MrLetsseehere Abraham(saw) was a prophet and he was from Ur(Babylon), not Israel. So he wouldn't fit the criteria either according to you.

[nicerperson]

@1manmafia Where do you find that Abraham was a prophet, does it say in the bible?

[1manmafia]

@nicerperson Yes it does. "When Abram(Abraham) was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said to him, "I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless. And I will make my covenant between me and you, and will make you exceedingly numerous.Then Abram fell on his face; and God said to him, "As for me, this is my covenant with you: You shall be the ancestor of a multitude of nations." - Genesis 17:1-4

[nicerperson]

@1manmafia found it, genesis 20:7, still your point about not fitting the criteria is moot because the prophesy of Moses was given after Abraham.

[1manmafia]

@nicerperson Read Numbers 22-24 about Prophet Balaam(as). 

[nicerperson]

@1manmafia Abraham was alive before Moses, so Moses couldn't be giving criteria about him. Moses was talking about one coming AFTER him. So your argument is invalid. Read Acts chapter 3 all the way through (apostle Peter's miracles and speech) you will soon see who the prophet like Moses is. May God's Holy Spirit light up his word for you so that you will see the truth.

[1manmafia]

@nicerperson Okay, what about Balaam? He was a prophet born after Moses and was a non Israelite. Plus, according to the Tanakh, there were hundreds of other prophets not mentioned in the Bible. In any case, Muhammad(saw) was a descendent of Ishmael, so i'm right either way.

[nicerperson]

@1manmafia Balaam was not born after Moses. He was a false prophet who led the Israelites astray into idol worship and worship of Baal-Peor. He was contemporary with Moses and died before Moses. I've forgotten what point you are trying to malke, is it that prophets can be from gentile (none Jewish) peoples? I know that.

1Jn 4:1 ... many false prophets are gone out into the world.

[1manmafia]

@nicerperson Balaam was not a false prophet because he DID receive revelations from God and did good things for the Israelites, however he was led astray because of his worldly desires.

"Then the LORD put a word in Balaam’s mouth, and said, “Return to Balak, and thus you shall speak.” So he returned to him, and there he was, standing by his burnt offering, he and all the princes of Moab." - Numbers 23:5-6

[nicerperson]

@1manmafia That means that Balaams ass was a prophet too, "And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass"

Balaam wanted to curse Israel, God wouldn't let him. In the end his counsel lead them into worshipping strange gods and idols. No true prophet would do this. 2Pe 2:15 Jud 1:11 Rev 2:14

Num 31 the LORD spake unto Moses ... Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites ... they slew the kings of Midian ... Balaam also they slew with the sword. and you said Balaam came after Moses.

[truthforchrist]

If you go to Deuteronomy chapter 17, it tells us what "Brethern" or "Brothers" means. It tells us very clearly that "brethern" is an Israelite. All Israelites are "Bretheren". Chapter 17 gives us 2 terms, "Bretheren" and "foreigner". Since they are different terms, that means a brethern can't be a foreigner, which means that "from among their bothers" means an Israeli.

Thus, Deuteronomy 18 is NOT talking about mohammad since he is not an Israelite.

[rb2489]

@truthforchrist Muhammad pbuh came from the line of Ishmael, since Ishmael is the brother of Isaac, who is the forefathers of Moses pbuh people, the children of Israel. The Israel always believed the prophethood must stay within the bloodline of the 12 Children of Israel, starting from Jacob, the son of Isaac. See Isaiah: 60: 3 describes the next Prophet as a 'nation/Gentile' (thus not from the Children of Israel) Muhamad ws a Gentile, Ishmael being the ancestor thru Kedar. See Genesis:17:20.

[truthforchrist]

@rb2489 There is no historical evidence that mohammad is a decendent of ishmael. Even if you could somehow prove that (which you can't), the Israelites made it very clear...*ALL* prophets were Israelites. According to the requirements of the Bible, mohammad would be a false prophet.

[rb2489]

@truthforchrist Like i said check Isaiah 60:3, it clearly indicates the next prophet would not be an israelite but a different nation or Gentile.

[truthforchrist]

@rb2489 You are going to have to explain that one to me. I read that verse and a few verses after it and I didn't see anything about a non-Israelite prophet. Feel free to send me a private message if you need more than 500 characters.

[ali19851985]

If ther Brethren is a fellow israeli why god didn't say among yourselves since he was speaking to the jews, why Brethren? their brethren are the arabs

[rapartist43]

brethren refers to every tribe but the levites. Go read that passage instead of looking like a jackass after posting BS. Thx

[Gfingers08]

Other ccurrences of that word. Machmad The others tell one that Machmad was destroyed (2 Chron. 36:19), was to be laid waste (Isa. 64:10-11), has been taken captive by an enemy (Lam. 1:10), has been traded for food (Lam. 1:11), has been slain by God (Lam. 2:4; Hos. 9:16), has been removed by God (Ezek. 24:16), is to be profaned by God (Ezek. 24:21), is to be buried in nettles (Hos. 9:6) and been carried away by pagans into their temples (Joel 3:5).

[thefotfoundation]

Thanks for the information Gfinger, I will look into that as time permits, God-Willing.

[me2super]

Allah=Indra, a Hindu demi-god of paradise with an unlimited supply of virgins and wine. Hindus do not worship a demi-god like Indra or Allah just for pleasures of paradise. It's high time you all put Adam & Eve fairy tales to bed, along with Moo & Aisha.

[thefotfoundation]

Rather than being abusive (as well as making false statements) why not put forward your religious points of view, as the alternative.

What do you want others to believe?

Re-incarnation? Idol worship? Caste System? In the tales of the Mahabarat?

[me2super]

Dunno know why you accuse me of making false statements. I don't want to go on a jihad here pointing out verses. All you need to do is do some careful research of your own religious texts.

watch?v=91JAN88NpSw

I made this video to bring about a dialog between scholars and theologians from all faiths. Hope this helps, and feel free to write to me if you don't agree or don't understand.

[thefotfoundation]

"Allah=Indra, a Hindu demi-god of paradise" is a false statement.

You should strive (Jihad) to get your point across, but if you dont want to thats upto you.

To get scholars and theologians discussing anyhting posting on youtube isnt the right forum. You also need to have a scholarly unbiased respectful approach.

Your video isnt informative. You seem to claim that Hinduism and make very incorrect statements about Islam (I wont mention other religions)...

[thefotfoundation]

...You claim that Muslims worship "through" the black stone which you call a "phallus". Both incorrect.

"All you need to do is do some careful research" and you would know that.

You talk about God being everything and anything to anyone and everyone. Which ends up meaning nothing at all.

I will repost my comment above to you here as it still applies to your video...

[thefotfoundation]

You seem to play with a lot of word in a mystical sort of way. This ends up making your agument vague.

Muslims dont believe that God is in everything and everything is in God. We are told specifically that God is separate from the Creation.

Your stance (God is in everything) would need you to believe that God is in things like toilets, faeces etc.

Another problem with your view: Some Hindu men (Sain Baba) have claimed that God is more in then than others so become worshipped by other Hindu's.

[thefotfoundation]

I rated the video you linked me with 1* (watch?v=91JAN88NpSw), your response is to send me a PM calling me a hater and making further dergatory remarks about Islam and Muhammad (pbuh).

Thats up to you and expected. I gave my reasons to you in the comments above. A rational apporach is to respond with an explanation of any errors I may have made in interpreting your video.

If you dont want to engage in discussion, especially with those that may disagree with you, then dont post comments.

[me2super]

My video was simply stating my views on using Hinduism to unite mankind stuck in ridiculous religions. People from different faiths have marked my video 5-star except you. Irony is you are from a place where Hinduism originated from. This was the least I'd expected. I forgive you, and I also apologize if my note was hurtful to you. Fair enough? I'm open to logic and metaphysics if you can refute mine, and not conditioned beliefs. Like it or not "God is everywhere" & every saint said that.

[thefotfoundation]

blonde008, BakaTheCraneDemon, Chhenu, rajivunome, Vedalila108, Starnishtar, Ellen3010, EXChristian0, volkerdoormann, ZodiacSystem, ilnaras, vrajavala...

As of 7/7/08 18:22 GMT: The above are all the people that left positive remarks on your video and you assume therefore 5*'s. Aside from ilnaras all are Hindus (check profiles).

ISKCONDALLAS (also a Hindu) left a negative comment.

So your claim "People from different faiths have marked my video 5-star except you" is false.

[me2super]

Check your math. You listed 13 people. I have 200 hits on my video. I also have about 200 friends on YT from all faiths. I am pretty open-minded, are you? :)

[thefotfoundation]

My math? As of 7/7/08 19:43 GMT you have 14 ratings. I listed 13 people who have commented so probably may have also rated your video, I also rated you video but left no comment thats 14 ratings.

You have 203 views but that is not the same as a rating. I hope you know that. It seems your varied-faith friends didnt rate you.

So I repeat that your claim "People from different faiths have marked my video 5-star except you" is false.

[me2super]

Just as you don't (or didn't) know God, you don't know who all rated me 5-star, but I do. What I noticed is that Hindu YT friends were quite sloppy in rating. Anyway, not that I'm hung up on how you rated me. It's all good. Peace be with you~! Dig into what Sai Baba, Kabir, and other saints said and feel free to write to me if you need any metaphysical help understanding it.

[thefotfoundation]

Most people irrespective of religion know God but some peoples understanding is corrupted and essentially Creation-worship results (idols, men, snakes, moon, stars etc).

Talking about our different understanding is a good thing especially if done with good manners. So I will definitely try to respond to your posts here. Hopefully a decent conversation will arise.

I am glad your not hung up on how I rated your video.

Peace, fot

[me2super]

You need to work on the concept of a panentheistic God and resulting worship. God is everything, and in everything (confirmed by all Hindu, Christian, and Muslim saints alike). Kaaba temple, mosques, idols, walls, rocks, stones, books, men, snakes, sky, space, cosmos, sun, [crescent or full] moon, stars, your body, your brain, your mind - everything is creation. There is no way you cannot creation-worship. Scientifically proven, and you can't be a little idolatrous or a little pregnant!

[thefotfoundation]

I can understand what your trying to say. The idea that "God is everything, and in everything" is not Islamic at all. Islam teaches quite clearly that the Creator and the Creation are quite separate.

Muslims do not (should maybe more appropriate) worship "Kaaba temple, mosques, idols, walls, rocks, stones, books, men, snakes, sky, space, cosmos, sun, [crescent or full] moon, stars, your body, your brain, your mind". So Muslims do not creation-worship.

"a little pregnant"... made me laugh.

[me2super]

Hinduism is more mysticism than religion. God is in every atom, faeces included, and not a man up in the sky. I don't see why that idea should be so repugnant. It is just your mental conditioning that you are unable to fathom a Big God - the Infinite One. Nothing can exist without God in it. 90% of the the cosmos is made of dark matter. My description of God is the same as that of Sai Baba, a true God-realization saint (watch?v=8qf57auHoqk).

[thefotfoundation]

"God is in every atom, faeces included, and not a man up in the sky. I don't see why that idea should be so repugnant."

Really? When faeces are shunned by man as impure for them to touch you claim that God resides there? Islam teaches that God is exalted above all of the creation.

I dont see what dark matter or Sai Baba has to do with the discussion.

[me2super]

Sure God is exalted. But is your concept of God "omnipresent"? If yes, God is present everywhere including faeces and flowers. If your concept is not omnipresent, then it'd be okay to say that God is an old man sitting on a throne up in the sky. God not only created all there is, God is also the sustainer of everything. If not, it all would be eternally dead static matter. This proves God is also omnipotent. Is this not so?

[me2super]

Islam does not have more than 4th grade metaphysics, if at all. I am not surprised that you are baffled by a "panentheistic" concept of God which you are probably unable to grasp. BTW, I did not say "God is anything". Read again - God is everything, God is in everything, and everything is in God.

[thefotfoundation]

Mysticism, 4th grade (plus) metaphysics are not signs of sophistication. Pantheism is not baffling but incorrect as any thought on the subject would demonstrate. If you take my disagreement as a sign of being baffled then that is your choice.

If you say that "God is everything, God is in everything, and everything is in God", then you are saying that "God is anything" because anything is contained within everything.

[me2super]

What you see is only matter with your bare eyes. What you don't realize is that God exists as microcosm and macrocosm. You question how Godcan exist in faeces. I marvel at God's presence in every atom of a beautiful flower and the fabulous cosmos. Just two views!

[me2super]

Simply shrugging off by saying "all you are saying is incorrect" isn't a scholarly way to refute an argument. Is it? If you have a logical point, make it, and let's see if it stands up to scrutiny and the test of non-contradiction.

[thefotfoundation]

I didnt shrug anything off but you seem have felt so. I did however say that you statements about Islam are false, and they are.

I made a point that in the pantheistic view God would be in objects (repugnant to the creation) such as feaces and you said yes, then ask me what is wrong with that?

Another point: Some Hindu men (Sain Baba - created) have claimed that God (Creator) is more in them than others so become worshipped by other Hindu's.

You then ask me about logic and non-contradiction?

[me2super]

Sai Baba's & Kabir's personal experience of God (not "knowledge" from a religious text), transcended a pantheistic view of God. Consciousness is all-pervading which we already know - scientifically proven that 90% of cosmos is made of dark matter. Sai Baba had tremendous Yogic powers. For example, removing intestines & limbs and sticking them back! Now as far as the repugnance, it is your mental conditioning. Understand that matter cannot arise without God's sustaining power - Consciousness.

[me2super]

There is an inconceivable oneness and difference, in relation to the individual soul and the Supreme Being. The concept of God as more or less in various individuals is wrong. God is merciful and treats all equally. What Saints experience at the point of Nirvana is non-duality of their souls with God. God is everywhere so there's no point quarreling about the object and form of worship. IMO, the quality of worship is more important.

[me2super]

Invisible water vapor manifests as water or ice with the same potency of H2O. Why so confused?

[omedyashar]

'G-d' is not water. I know this is obvious and you're only using an analogy, but the truth is that there is NOTHING in creation comparable to the Almighty, in any way. There are no real analogies either. We are FORCED to use metaphor in reference to the Creator due to the limitation of human speech. He is exalted above all our highest conceptions.

[me2super]

A wise sage said, "If you are 'awakened' and aware of who God IS, you won't keep searching". I get reminded 'cos a lot of people keep saying - well, G-d is something you can't and won't understand due to human limitations. Vedanta proclaims that human form is precious (achieved after several rebirths as plants and animals) and only in a human form can you understand God.

[me2super]

God is exalted. Only humans can understand the concept of God. What else is human life meant for? So who is God? To say that there is only one God is to reduce God to a single unit. God is Unity, not a unit. There isn't only one God, God is One, i.e. a Unity inclusive of all things, manifest and unmanifest. God is everything, God is in everything, and everything is in God. The whole of creation is the manifestation which cannot be separated from God Who is The Infinite Eternal Existence Bliss.

[thefotfoundation]

You seem to play with a lot of word in a mystical sort of way. This ends up making your agument vague.

Muslims dont believe that God is in everything and everything is in God. We are told specifically that God is separate from the Creation.

Your stance (God is in everything) would need you to believe that God is in things like toilets, faeces etc.

Another problem with your view: Some Hindu men (Sain Baba) have claimed that God is more in then than others so become worshipped by other Hindu's.

[thefotfoundation]

What are the criteria for movement (re-incarnation) between man-animal-plant? Is it an automatic process or is there a reason for the direction of re-incarnated development?

[floater227]

Deuteronomy 34:10

"And there arose not a a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face."

no because jesus was different to moses, also if god said that there arose not a prophet whom god knew face to face then who is muhammed talking to? satan perhaps?

[AlwaysMuslims]

Deuteronomy 34:10

"And there shall not arise a prophet <b>in Israel</b> like unto Moses."

So it cannot be about Jesus.

[50ffash]

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[WRpeach]

While God was on earth, he presented himself as a man. He was "made for a little while lower than the angels" (Heb 2:9). In Phil 2:5-8, it says that Jesus "emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men". Jesus as a man could be and was the prophet foretold in Deut. And as S29.27 points out, Muhammad is not even in the line of prophethood.

[thefotfoundation]

Welcome WRpeach. Quran 29:27 of course refers to the fact that Abraham (pbuh) was blessed with Prophethood and revelation in his Progeny. 1) Prophets and Messengers were sent to every Nation (10:47 & 16:36) so this "race of Prophethood" idea is not expressed by the Quran, God is not a racist. Muhammad (pbuh) is actually a descendant of Abraham (pbuh) so would be in his line anyway. Continued...

[thefotfoundation]

You mention that God was on earth as a man and then also say that so could be a Prophet. Of course God is not a Prophet but sends Prophets. If God, Himself is here then that is God. I should not be surprised that you use Paul's writings (Heb & Phil) to support your theology, but for me that actually weakens your claim. Continued...

[thefotfoundation]

Paul's theology is not found on the lips of Jesus (pbuh). Heb 2:9 doesnt say that God made Himself "a little lover than the angels" but the "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels". Phil 2:3-10 clarifies that the "emptying himself" is to allow the humbling death. Of course if God didnt die (as God does not) i.e. a Divine Sacrifice was not needed, then: Why did God become a man to start with? Peace, fot

[dlougha]

1of2 Yes, you make a lie out of Deut 18:18. You avoid questions that simply show the passage can not refer to Muhammad as the Prophet. As you have avoided Deut 18:2 which clearly shows in context that the prophet was among "their brothers" referring to the tribes of Israel who were delivered with moses from Egypt. How else could you explain Deut 18:2 in context to Deut 18:18?

You re-quoted Acts 3 showing Jesus as prophet of Deut 18:18 (v22) and "Author of life" (v15)

[nerdklasic]

im wid u brother ,, Song of solomon 5:16 ,, As read in hebrew, Hikku Mamattaqqim Wakullahu Muhammadim zeh Dwudi rez zei Banwood Yarushalam! Muhammadim! im is a plural of respect in hebrew!

[SYAliero]

brother you said 'among "their brothers". this means jews brothers or precisely "brethren". this means collective brothers not among "your brothers" which means jews hisbrithers. wish you open mind

[dlougha]

2of3 It should occour to you that the Gospel calls Jesus God in Divine nature and word, and prophet of Yahweh God his father, many places in the Gospel. Prophet literally means ...."Speaker or interpretor of Divine inspiration". So Gospel clearly teaches us that Jesus was both Word of God, Nature of God and Speaker of Divine inspiration (prophet)!!

[dlougha]

3of3 Your misunderstanding of Acts 3:22 makes no sense because Acts 3:26 explains that the fulfilment of deut 18:18 had ALREADY come in Christ!!. Now, how else could you explain acts 3:26 in reference to Acts 3:22 and Deut 18:18??

Very easy to understand through reading the context of those gospel and torah passages. Taking parts of verses to try and sqeeze Muhammad where he does not belong makes you end up contradicting yourself.

[Janaida]

thats was excellent brother please explain more about the songs of salomon

[thefotfoundation]

BarakhAllahFiKum. If time permits I may return to the topic of Muhammad (pbuh) in the Songs of Solomon. Salaam, fot

[dlougha]

1of4 Why make a lie out of the truth of Deut 18:18??. Look at the context of Deut 18:18 and it is easy to see it is NOT referring to Muhammad. In the same context of who "among their brothers" is referring to, verse 2 shows that "their brothers" is only referring to the Israelites who came from Egypt with Moses. Since the command in Deut 18:20 which said.."a prophet who speaks in the name of other Gods, must be put to death".

[thefotfoundation]

Lie out of truth? If Jesus (pbuh) is God according to most Christians then this PROPHET mentioned in Deut 18:18 can not therefore be Jesus (pbuh). Why? Because God is not a Prophet. Peace, fot

[nerdklasic]

yup2! U Chrisitans cannot say God wanted to be a prophet! Being prophet ain't almighty!

[dlougha]

2of4 Are you saying that Jesus was speaking in the name of other Gods??. Also since Muhammad lived in Arabia and not in the Jewish nation, which the law of Moses was given to, Muhammad could not have been killed. However if he lived in the time of the Mosaic law in Israel, he would have been put to death as a false prophet.

You misquoted Acts 3 which is strictly talking about the fulfillment of Gods promise to send the messiah to the Jews.

[LexiconDevil311]

Me being that agnostic kid

[thefotfoundation]

Great that your researching, hows that going? Peace, fot

[LexiconDevil311]

I'm sick of the agnostic kid defending Islam on every single thread.

I'm seriously thinking of converting, but I still have a lot of research to do.

[thefotfoundation]

JazakhumAllahKhairun for defending Islam. It can be a big task in the face of the amazing ignorance of many people about even the basics of Islam. Peace, fot

[MuslimKid786]

Excellent response. 100+ stars. Keep up the good work bro.

[qwertyfshag]

in the strongs concordance they spell that word like this 'mawckmad'. maybe this is one of those instances where there is descripency in the manuscripts. God bless.

[thefotfoundation]

The point is that the Hebrew spelling with consonants (the way it ws written before 800 CE) is identical to how "Muhammad" would be spelt. Peace, fot

[snow3585]

great video.

[thefotfoundation]

JazakhumAllahKhairun Bro fpr the comment. Salaam, fot