Its about the length of the runway. I've seen enough landings without thrust reversers. Like the fokker 70's dont use thrust reversers that often when they land at the polderbaan. It could ofcourse happen that they use the thrust reversers, but that depends on the weight and length of the runway. A runway like de polderbaan at Schiphol airport is long enough for small aircrafts wich are not so heavy to land without extra help from the thrust reversers. But it is a absolutely a nice video.
oh come on, pilots calculate the runway distance needed with autobrakes set on, there is no need for the reverser, on the other hand the video beautifully shows how smooth the smaller bobbies (737/3/4/5) are :)
It must have been an empty aircraft with just staff members (Not alot of weight) returning to the City where Lufthansa's main headquarters is to do maintenance on the Aircraft, It happens with Air Canada quite often. It is nothing out of the ordinary.
I sit in a plane who did the same, and after landing i asked the captain why he didn't use spoilers and thrust reversers, he said that the parking position is at the end from runway and he wanted to go of at the end from runway, to get faster to parking position! ;)
@EnigmaDrath reverses are things on the engines that retract backwards vectoring the engine flow backwards. It helps to slow the plane down dramatically. In this case he did not use them most probably because of length of the runway and the speed he was travelling
I think thats the polderbaan in Amsterdam. Most of the small planes dont use the reverser, because the runway is about 3,8 km long and there are only at the end taxiways. You can see there very often, that the pilots keep the nose gear for a "long time" in the air.
spoilers extend normally. The fact that he didn`t use thrust reversers is not something abnormal at all. One of them might have been out of service and the pilot chose not to use the other one. It also depends on how long the rwy is and where the pilot wishes to vacate it. The most common thing to do in twins is to use the ones available regardless of rwy length and exit point but you never know.
@Aviationnation10 that would depend on airline/company policy. The 737 MEL does allow for one thrust reverser inop. In fact thrust reversers are not required during certification of the airplane, they contribute a great deal to keep the brakes cool, as long as they are used properly tho. Thrust reversers must normally be operative when there are factors that reduce landing performance, such as, wet rwys, tail winds, high hot airports, anti skid inop, etc. Not familiar with Lufthansa's 737 policy
@flchange theres no an airline out there that would risk taking off without one working if they had to make an emergency landing somewhere on a very short runway they need everything to slow it down
@Aviationnation10 you´re wrong. As long as it's approved by the MEL, they won't ground an airplane for a thrust reverser inop. They will only specify the conditions under which that particular airplane can be operated. Regards.
hab ich jedes mal in leipzig. dort muss der letzte taxiway genommen werden, weil die brücke über die autobahn am ende der rwy ist... da wird meist ohne reverser und autobrakes auf low oder ganz ohne, oft nur mit spdbrk, wenn überhaupt gelandet, um am ende nicht noch gas geben zu müssen...
sometimes when planes are not to full and there approach speeds are low they dont use reverse because there is no point,the pilot would engage then disengage it emediately so when they are light they use speed brakes and braking. no reverse
The decision not to use reverse is nothing strange or unusual. As they landed on 18R, they will have to vacate the runway at the end, so why waste fuel (reverse) and brakes? Running down the tyres is cheaper!
aircraft light enough and runway length sufficient enough for no reverse, simple as that.. or maybe they were wanting to exit the runway via a taxiway at the end of the runway so rather than slowing down early why not roll a little more quickly to the end and save time
@zXxNiklasxXz That is not accurate. All aircraft land with spoiler. Thay may decide not to use reversers, but unless there is a malfunction, spoiler are always armed on approach and they deploy on touch down automatically.
Usually when they don't use reversers the runways pretty long and they most likely are trying to use a taxi-way closer to the gate, therefore keeping the taxi time down. Atleast in the United States they do this so the taxi doesn't take so long.
It was probably a returning flight from where it dropped all of the passengers and cargo off, then it landed empty with no added weight so there was no need for thrust reversers and the pilots just used brakes with anti-skid
Nothing special about this landing, just a normal landing, low wing method given the cross-wind. Thrust reversers are not needed by spec, they are just an aid, not a requirement (runway length is calculated without taking into account the use of thrust reversers) - and nowadays airlines prefer not to use them to save on fuel.
Reversers are generally used if the runway length is under a certain length, if it is long enough for the plane to brake happily with spoilers and gear brake then they are spending mroe money by using unneeded thrusters
@AlfrescoProductions This is wrong. Reverse Thrusters are generally used in all landings to help the aircraft vacate the runway asap. This is mainly to reduce runway occupation, but also to reduce taxi time on the ground.
Sometimes, when the gate is closer to the end of the runway than to an earlier exit, it is smarter if the pilot uses the entire runway for braking. In those cases, RTs and Speedbrakes are not needed. This is such a case. The Spoilers were just activated shortly to cut lift.
Pretty sure on the 73 you can't disarm the auto-spoilers. 18R is 12,467ft (3800m) long. The best place to exit would be V3 or V2 since it is a long taxi. There is really no need to slow down quickly and add wear to the engines/brakes. When he touches down he doesn't use reverse thrust and he retracts the spoilers after they go up. (Though the 1st. point of the spoilers is the prevent lift from the wings and 2nd. braking.) He obviously wasn't in a hurry to brake, since the exit is faraway.
@AirDude1213 It would be stupid to try and get off 18R ASAP, since you'd have to spend more time taxing along the runway. Therefore minimal/no braking, avoiding wear, and taxing faster is the most efficient, cheapest, and smartest thing to do.
It's because they deploy poilers only when all main gear ar on the ground (unless in emergency!) but that combined with the angle you are filming from makes it look like the spoilers came up late.
what airport is this? how long is the runway? i guess with long enough runway with a samll plane like that you can keep going and just relay on the wheel breaks..
...nothing wrong with landing like this;no thrust reverse and no spoilers,especially for airbus A320...as long as the flaps are extended in the angle of 27*-42* and the max weight of landing match with ILS,everything is OK......plus don't forget the pilot's experience(some experienced pilots are able to land very smoothly and very slow)
they spoilers were late because both main gear were not on the ground. thrust reversers - if its a long enough runway/your turnoff is at the end brakes & spoilers are fine, and it saves engine wear & fuel costs.
The pilot was testing the plane, because this was a testflight ! In Germany all new Machines must be tested that everything is okay with the brand new pane, before it can transport pasengers!
on a shorter rwy you should really use thrust reversers... try flying Sao Paulo Congonas or Rio de Janeiro Santos Dumont... (SP has 1.600m and RJ has 1450m rwy very difficult to land... without thrust reversers impossible...)
regards
Jona L.
P.S. B737/A320 is the biggest a/c able to t/o or land there, so don't try with B747 please :D
that happens of course only at airports with less traffic and long rwy´s like in cgn! northerly landing, terminal at the end of rwy 32r, no traffic behind and so on... so don´t try to come to an answere by yourself...just ask!
hi friends! i can help you out! flying b737 more then 6 years w. lh, i can asure you, this is a safe conduct! asume a ldg on a 4km rwy! actual landing distance 800m, planed turn of after 3km...what would happens if you leave the spoilers out and only idle reverser ? you would never reach the end. you even have to set power again to leave the rwy in time without blocking inbound traffic!
80 knots is not a place where I would retract manually. Much too busy at that point. Spoilers are free braking. I finally saw it, except did they fully retract? Only the tips were visible and the video ended Were the throttles moved fwd for a problem? would do it. Is runway long and the last turnoff planned? would do it. Was there a mech. problem? would do it. They were deployed with the auto-speedbrake function as evidenced by rapid deployment when the 2nd main gear touched down
A quick way to stow the spoilers is to move the throttle quickly forward and back so the engine does not have time to spool up. and cannot be done in reverse. 80 knots with a couple of thousand feet to go may be desirable TO SOME PILOTS. It makes for a prettier airplane and paxs don't look inside a wing from the cabin I would wait a little longer
OR it's a full right aileron due to gusts and thats the reason. can't see, if the right spoilers also retract... but I don't know the 737 that well... don't know if it's possible during the touch down logic...
It's a typical crosswind landing, ask anyone who flies. the wings are tipped into the wind slightly with corrections made with the rudder to line up with the run way. The wheel on the side where the crosswinds coming from touches first, followed by the other main gear, then nose. Standard crosswind practice really
They did not retact, they extended to kill the lift so the a/c settles on it's wheels to make the brakes effective. you guys just make stuff up? Get a job with the media, and please don't vote
Your the one making the stuff up. They only extended them for a very short period of time. Look the 0:16 second mark, they retract them there while still going 80+ knots.
Seeing as it sort of lands on one wheel first and is a bit wobbly and windy maybe he decided to put those flaps back down after the front wheel came down to lower the wind resistance and make the ride smoother?
IF you want to say it was a interesting landing, maybe you should explain why..cause from my point of wiew...i just saw a plan land..and then no more...am i wrong about this..please tell me!
I am not pilot and expert, but the last thing we can see on this video that plane continuing moving on runaway,_ for me it's look like that this is just touch and go practice for pilots, may be I am wrong
@amarpilot thank u for explanation i was thinking that it some kind of small airport without too much traffic,( i didn't read all tags,) to be honest it look like, thank u
I can't any interesting part in this video?? :S It is a normal landing, spoilers extracted late cos pilot couldn't landed on two wheels first, so the plane couldn't get enough wheel pressure on them, as pilot put the two wheels and aircraft sits on the runway then automaticly spoilers opened.
Spoilers didn't deploy late, They retracted very fast. Normally, on 99% of the landings here they retract them on the taxiway. Its rare to see them retracted at 100 + knots.
Yes, but read what I say, the other 99% do use both, so it makes it different, and therefore interesting. Its just normal procedure to keep them up until vacating the runway. Even when you are small or whatever.
Often you do close them when you deactivate your reversers...which should be around 60knots. In this case without reversers they are just used to destroy the remaining lift and prevent the plane from becoming airborne again after touchdown (which is their primary function). The additional drag created (and therefore additional deceleration) is more of a bonus. Nice to have but not really necessary on long runways under nominal conditions.
if this is the polderbaan runway at schipol the planes can only vacate the runway at the very bottom and there is no point in breaking quickly because he has loads of runway to roll out on. ;)
I agree with b3rettaZ26. Using reverse thrusters uses more fuel. Plus, if this is your first time seeing a plane land with no thrust reverser, I'm very surprized because this isn't so intresting and this isn't the only airplane that doesn't use thrust reversers. It's only used seldom these days, well of course when you're running out of road to stop. Otherwise, they save it.
Its about the length of the runway. I've seen enough landings without thrust reversers. Like the fokker 70's dont use thrust reversers that often when they land at the polderbaan. It could ofcourse happen that they use the thrust reversers, but that depends on the weight and length of the runway. A runway like de polderbaan at Schiphol airport is long enough for small aircrafts wich are not so heavy to land without extra help from the thrust reversers. But it is a absolutely a nice video.
spacemees94 1 month ago
Maybe it's a Touch and Go
hackyou360 1 month ago
niiice landinding!
NCK5 1 month ago
oh come on, pilots calculate the runway distance needed with autobrakes set on, there is no need for the reverser, on the other hand the video beautifully shows how smooth the smaller bobbies (737/3/4/5) are :)
bozo86 3 months ago
looks like a toy plane XD
hiteshtoor 3 months ago
It's not a full stop but a touch and go!
duknilch 3 months ago
the spoilers extend only if there's a minimum load on the gear which wasn't at the first touchdown (with only 1 wheel).
assailant85 4 months ago
test landings? maybe that was a touch and go, but the spoilers shouldn't deploy at all in that case...
baby9811 5 months ago
Is it me or was that an overspeeded approach ?
3333528 5 months ago
@3333528 i guess just point a speed radar detector at your screen then. .
jaronee 5 months ago
@jaronee Nah , it just looked kinda fast for a landing , but well executed quite well actually ! :o)
3333528 5 months ago
It must have been an empty aircraft with just staff members (Not alot of weight) returning to the City where Lufthansa's main headquarters is to do maintenance on the Aircraft, It happens with Air Canada quite often. It is nothing out of the ordinary.
CNRailWabamun 5 months ago
I sit in a plane who did the same, and after landing i asked the captain why he didn't use spoilers and thrust reversers, he said that the parking position is at the end from runway and he wanted to go of at the end from runway, to get faster to parking position! ;)
Planemechanic100 5 months ago
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Planemechanic100 5 months ago
Question: how can you tell that they didn't use reversers?
Better question: what are reversers? (LOL) What am I meant to be looking for?
(Yeah, I know squat about planes.)
EnigmaDrath 6 months ago
@EnigmaDrath reverses are things on the engines that retract backwards vectoring the engine flow backwards. It helps to slow the plane down dramatically. In this case he did not use them most probably because of length of the runway and the speed he was travelling
mimijets 5 months ago
I think thats the polderbaan in Amsterdam. Most of the small planes dont use the reverser, because the runway is about 3,8 km long and there are only at the end taxiways. You can see there very often, that the pilots keep the nose gear for a "long time" in the air.
HamburgMobile 6 months ago
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HamburgMobile 6 months ago
That's normally a crosswind landing. . . from that Lufthansa Boeing 737-530. . . Let's talk about that my friend!
StealthCessnaCombats 6 months ago
finally someone lets it roll for a while!
alSation81 6 months ago
what was so intresting about that?
labbern 6 months ago
@labbern No reversers just spead brakes! ;]
kaeleon1111 6 months ago
Strange! Really strange!
mtalhaawais 7 months ago
wow ;O
MissSanthagen1988 7 months ago
Left reverser might be INOP, so its being locked. Its totally legal
azlee19 7 months ago
Crosswind.
lukosius9 8 months ago
Maybe they just knew it will be enough
FastGreenFCF 8 months ago
This could be a checkride. Afterall, the spoilers were deployed only to ensure that the aircraft is maintaining good ground contact after touchdown.
issueagent 8 months ago
spoilers extend normally. The fact that he didn`t use thrust reversers is not something abnormal at all. One of them might have been out of service and the pilot chose not to use the other one. It also depends on how long the rwy is and where the pilot wishes to vacate it. The most common thing to do in twins is to use the ones available regardless of rwy length and exit point but you never know.
flchange 8 months ago 14
@flchange Probably had a good headwind, too.
Milesco 7 months ago
@flchange they would not fly if one was "out of service"!
Aviationnation10 5 months ago
@Aviationnation10 that would depend on airline/company policy. The 737 MEL does allow for one thrust reverser inop. In fact thrust reversers are not required during certification of the airplane, they contribute a great deal to keep the brakes cool, as long as they are used properly tho. Thrust reversers must normally be operative when there are factors that reduce landing performance, such as, wet rwys, tail winds, high hot airports, anti skid inop, etc. Not familiar with Lufthansa's 737 policy
flchange 5 months ago
@flchange theres no an airline out there that would risk taking off without one working if they had to make an emergency landing somewhere on a very short runway they need everything to slow it down
Aviationnation10 5 months ago
@Aviationnation10 you´re wrong. As long as it's approved by the MEL, they won't ground an airplane for a thrust reverser inop. They will only specify the conditions under which that particular airplane can be operated. Regards.
flchange 5 months ago
@flchange Ok
Aviationnation10 5 months ago
what makes it interesting ?
glodieda 8 months ago
Yeah and the reversers weren't engaged...
bubulescu1997 8 months ago
what so funny with this landing,
sugu77 9 months ago
I hope they had a long runway.
GovOfWolves 9 months ago
hab ich jedes mal in leipzig. dort muss der letzte taxiway genommen werden, weil die brücke über die autobahn am ende der rwy ist... da wird meist ohne reverser und autobrakes auf low oder ganz ohne, oft nur mit spdbrk, wenn überhaupt gelandet, um am ende nicht noch gas geben zu müssen...
64h5dsf14j6s41h5s4j5 9 months ago
kràss_sÛcht_mÀl_nÁch:_geldeasy_aúf_gÒÓglE
folssieMontana285455 9 months ago
@ 19 seconds you can see the engine case start to come open and then close. My instructor always said "No crime in using all the runway"
dwags59 10 months ago
i can land the 747 in meigss field chicago!!
bikramahuja 10 months ago
they dont use the reversers to save fuel on long runways
crayz745 10 months ago
a que velocidad va este avion al mometo de aterrizar ?
MrJulio2906 10 months ago
this was a bump
PMAN365 10 months ago
It could simply be that the turn off he wanted was far down the runway ive seen it before
Aviationnation10 10 months ago
No reversers !
TheChefKev 11 months ago
Good firm landing!
lsf665 11 months ago
might have been practicing loss of thrust reverser? i landed a few times without T.R. but ur right ive NEVER seen the spoilers go out so quickly...
djluigisantos 1 year ago
headwinds
sashman3988 1 year ago
what made it not normal?
ampthilluk 1 year ago
sometimes when planes are not to full and there approach speeds are low they dont use reverse because there is no point,the pilot would engage then disengage it emediately so when they are light they use speed brakes and braking. no reverse
hope thats cleared it up :)
HMC200 1 year ago
Whats so strange here? It happends some time at the so called 'Polderbaan' (18R/36L) because its a long runway.
jeffly1500 1 year ago
what runway?
wizzair1313 1 year ago
nothing interesting or strange in here.
PzAufklaerer12Btl 1 year ago
The decision not to use reverse is nothing strange or unusual. As they landed on 18R, they will have to vacate the runway at the end, so why waste fuel (reverse) and brakes? Running down the tyres is cheaper!
Nice video!
MD11pushback 1 year ago
Hamburg?
HamburgAirport 1 year ago
I've been on that plane before in hamburg
Whitehosain 1 year ago
I would prefer the reverser to avoid senseless waste of brake-brackets...
They also cost a little;)
slaveofdberg 1 year ago
aircraft light enough and runway length sufficient enough for no reverse, simple as that.. or maybe they were wanting to exit the runway via a taxiway at the end of the runway so rather than slowing down early why not roll a little more quickly to the end and save time
SJB173 1 year ago
yes... i once sat in an A 320 landing in stansted for this reason... made me a bit nervous^^
zXxNiklasxXz 1 year ago
@SJB173
yes i once sat in an A320 landing in stansted without any spoilers and reverse throttle for this reason... made me a bit nervous thoug^^
zXxNiklasxXz 1 year ago
@zXxNiklasxXz That is not accurate. All aircraft land with spoiler. Thay may decide not to use reversers, but unless there is a malfunction, spoiler are always armed on approach and they deploy on touch down automatically.
learjetjunki 1 year ago
can i have my 25sec back?
tolongot 1 year ago
Definitely touch n go
lawrenceworkgrave 1 year ago
This plane is a 737-600 it's short n well you don't really need reversers.. The 400 is longer then the 600
killabb24 1 year ago
i know what part was strang .That the thrust reverser was not deployed
Lovejgyongye 1 year ago
i know what part was strang that the thrust reverser was not deployed
Lovejgyongye 1 year ago
I thing it was a TOUCH and GO
LILKIKKO7476 1 year ago
how this things were namend?
hmmmm
ahh i know ...brakes
u mean cakes
no im mean..... *wall* BUUUUMMMMMM
GeneralB300 1 year ago
no reverse thrust or spoilers.. nice
madzane94 1 year ago
Usually when they don't use reversers the runways pretty long and they most likely are trying to use a taxi-way closer to the gate, therefore keeping the taxi time down. Atleast in the United States they do this so the taxi doesn't take so long.
hafunny2 1 year ago
Maybe they just forgot!
0Meaty 1 year ago 3
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@0Meaty that too as well as flchange
Mshirazee 4 months ago
@0Meaty Then you're a veeery baaad pilot, if you forget sth
hackyou360 1 month ago
Tres bel atterissage!!!
cornflakes72 1 year ago
boeing make such pretty aircrafts !
HansensUniverse 1 year ago
I know why!!! that airport has got a very long runway.!!!
Airliner96 1 year ago
It was probably a returning flight from where it dropped all of the passengers and cargo off, then it landed empty with no added weight so there was no need for thrust reversers and the pilots just used brakes with anti-skid
pCf96 1 year ago
what airport/?
wizzair1313 1 year ago
maybe it was a t/g?
usair97 1 year ago
Nothing special about this landing, just a normal landing, low wing method given the cross-wind. Thrust reversers are not needed by spec, they are just an aid, not a requirement (runway length is calculated without taking into account the use of thrust reversers) - and nowadays airlines prefer not to use them to save on fuel.
bdelatour 1 year ago
Hat die maschiene keinen rücschub . ;D
moinhamm 1 year ago
reverse trust????
breeze0329 1 year ago
maybe they had to use the last exit so they didn't want to brake until that... maybe there was another aircraft on final just behind it...
loris92929 1 year ago
0737-500
MrMona95 1 year ago
hmmmmm, the plane landed, very intresting. lol only joking mate, does seem odd though ;-)
xXmand123Xx 1 year ago
You don't always need to use thrust reverse
FSXGuy1 1 year ago
Reversers are generally used if the runway length is under a certain length, if it is long enough for the plane to brake happily with spoilers and gear brake then they are spending mroe money by using unneeded thrusters
AlfrescoProductions 1 year ago
@AlfrescoProductions This is wrong. Reverse Thrusters are generally used in all landings to help the aircraft vacate the runway asap. This is mainly to reduce runway occupation, but also to reduce taxi time on the ground.
Sometimes, when the gate is closer to the end of the runway than to an earlier exit, it is smarter if the pilot uses the entire runway for braking. In those cases, RTs and Speedbrakes are not needed. This is such a case. The Spoilers were just activated shortly to cut lift.
naisi 1 year ago
@naisi ohh sorry, thats only what i have been told
AlfrescoProductions 1 year ago
Why it is interesting?
Ataylor0 1 year ago
Pretty sure on the 73 you can't disarm the auto-spoilers. 18R is 12,467ft (3800m) long. The best place to exit would be V3 or V2 since it is a long taxi. There is really no need to slow down quickly and add wear to the engines/brakes. When he touches down he doesn't use reverse thrust and he retracts the spoilers after they go up. (Though the 1st. point of the spoilers is the prevent lift from the wings and 2nd. braking.) He obviously wasn't in a hurry to brake, since the exit is faraway.
AirDude1213 1 year ago
@AirDude1213 It would be stupid to try and get off 18R ASAP, since you'd have to spend more time taxing along the runway. Therefore minimal/no braking, avoiding wear, and taxing faster is the most efficient, cheapest, and smartest thing to do.
AirDude1213 1 year ago
this would be a great vid if it wasn't sped up.
pilotboy84 1 year ago
That German pilot must have wanted to go to the toilet badly
saufi94 1 year ago
It's because they deploy poilers only when all main gear ar on the ground (unless in emergency!) but that combined with the angle you are filming from makes it look like the spoilers came up late.
concordskijr 1 year ago
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OttoVonStrunf 1 year ago
tey call it vip landing..
TrankiL0 1 year ago
what airport is this? how long is the runway? i guess with long enough runway with a samll plane like that you can keep going and just relay on the wheel breaks..
deadmansvoice 1 year ago
...nothing wrong with landing like this;no thrust reverse and no spoilers,especially for airbus A320...as long as the flaps are extended in the angle of 27*-42* and the max weight of landing match with ILS,everything is OK......plus don't forget the pilot's experience(some experienced pilots are able to land very smoothly and very slow)
georgevlora 1 year ago
It is common these days not to use reversers if it's not necessary. Using them puts alot of stress on to the engines.
shooooota 1 year ago
i flew a US Airways A320 and they didnt apply reverse thrust,
PlaneSpotterGroup101 1 year ago
they spoilers were late because both main gear were not on the ground. thrust reversers - if its a long enough runway/your turnoff is at the end brakes & spoilers are fine, and it saves engine wear & fuel costs.
Guydabest 1 year ago
hehehe
little crosswind going on there!
jasong19711 1 year ago
@jasong19711
Right, it looked like a very nice "one wing low" maneuver. I thought it was a nice landing!!
Gringosmasher 1 year ago
sometimes its used for the passengers.. less noise
rcplaneguy1 1 year ago
It's probably his first time as a Captain I presume. Sometimes those who have just graduated from co-pilot forgets. I don't know I'm just guessing.
Guywhowearsunderwear 1 year ago
The pilot was testing the plane, because this was a testflight ! In Germany all new Machines must be tested that everything is okay with the brand new pane, before it can transport pasengers!
waXsurf 1 year ago
why did the pilot turn on its thrusters?
GMkiller008 1 year ago
Maybe, that the pilot was trying out something very special! HEHE..
DonGiovanni89de 1 year ago
Maybe, the pilot was trying out something very special"
DonGiovanni89de 1 year ago
it looks like my landings on flight simulator xD
mover01 1 year ago 40
@mover01
on a shorter rwy you should really use thrust reversers... try flying Sao Paulo Congonas or Rio de Janeiro Santos Dumont... (SP has 1.600m and RJ has 1450m rwy very difficult to land... without thrust reversers impossible...)
regards
Jona L.
P.S. B737/A320 is the biggest a/c able to t/o or land there, so don't try with B747 please :D
JonaLB752fan 1 year ago
the vedio is not funny u load just for joking.
2234lover 1 year ago
@2234lover you spelled "video" wrong
CandyGraham729 1 year ago
and what is so interesting?
fleshido 1 year ago
Crosswinds were pushing it sideways... but it was hard to see, because of the camera's angle.
jorjor35 1 year ago
wow there were sparks
klkyomama 1 year ago
no sparks lights of the plane
ikolkyo967 1 year ago
that happens of course only at airports with less traffic and long rwy´s like in cgn! northerly landing, terminal at the end of rwy 32r, no traffic behind and so on... so don´t try to come to an answere by yourself...just ask!
maxm12 2 years ago
@maxm12 dun nid ti be bias
MysteryDark123 1 year ago
@MysteryDark123 what language is that???
maxm12 1 year ago
@maxm12 i said dont need to be bias
MysteryDark123 1 year ago
hi friends! i can help you out! flying b737 more then 6 years w. lh, i can asure you, this is a safe conduct! asume a ldg on a 4km rwy! actual landing distance 800m, planed turn of after 3km...what would happens if you leave the spoilers out and only idle reverser ? you would never reach the end. you even have to set power again to leave the rwy in time without blocking inbound traffic!
maxm12 2 years ago
could be a touch - and - go for practice (without passengers), couldn't it?
Sakakawea310 2 years ago 6
No, because SPL doesn't allow touch and go training on 18R. Besides, I took the video and saw them taking the last exit.
amarpilot 2 years ago 2
80 knots is not a place where I would retract manually. Much too busy at that point. Spoilers are free braking. I finally saw it, except did they fully retract? Only the tips were visible and the video ended Were the throttles moved fwd for a problem? would do it. Is runway long and the last turnoff planned? would do it. Was there a mech. problem? would do it. They were deployed with the auto-speedbrake function as evidenced by rapid deployment when the 2nd main gear touched down
whatthephuque 2 years ago
They went fully down. And advancing throttle wasn't audiable, but that may have happened. I don't know.
amarpilot 2 years ago
A quick way to stow the spoilers is to move the throttle quickly forward and back so the engine does not have time to spool up. and cannot be done in reverse. 80 knots with a couple of thousand feet to go may be desirable TO SOME PILOTS. It makes for a prettier airplane and paxs don't look inside a wing from the cabin I would wait a little longer
whatthephuque 2 years ago
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Sakakawea310 2 years ago
lol you anorak lol im a 737 pilot for 23 years saka stop trying to look smart its not working lol
richard1967uk 1 year ago
OR it's a full right aileron due to gusts and thats the reason. can't see, if the right spoilers also retract... but I don't know the 737 that well... don't know if it's possible during the touch down logic...
Sakakawea310 2 years ago
love luftansa
edngtnbrf 2 years ago
It's a typical crosswind landing, ask anyone who flies. the wings are tipped into the wind slightly with corrections made with the rudder to line up with the run way. The wheel on the side where the crosswinds coming from touches first, followed by the other main gear, then nose. Standard crosswind practice really
ImperialFist2nd 2 years ago
Thats not the point, point being the spoilers being retracted awfully quick.
amarpilot 2 years ago
They did not retact, they extended to kill the lift so the a/c settles on it's wheels to make the brakes effective. you guys just make stuff up? Get a job with the media, and please don't vote
whatthephuque 2 years ago
Your the one making the stuff up. They only extended them for a very short period of time. Look the 0:16 second mark, they retract them there while still going 80+ knots.
amarpilot 2 years ago
@whatthephuque Yeah he's right, they extend for like a second, then go away, making brakes less effective.
blueb0g 1 year ago
I was looking for the interesting bit.. couldn't see it
Ellscore 2 years ago 2
@Ellscore Cos the plane lands one wheel at a time im guessing? :/
mollyjessleo 2 years ago
ever heared of autobrakes?
They don't use reverse for noise reduction
micheltie 2 years ago 2
@micheltie autobrakes are weak as fuck, but they might be able to slow a small jet like a 737 down.
scottwhr 2 years ago
touch and go training ????
where you filmed it??
they do it often at leipzig/halle airport !
fluginator 2 years ago
maybe go around, but the video is just not showing it ;) ?
guhu87 2 years ago
Maybe there was a hot German girl at the other end of the runway so he came in hard.
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tryithere 2 years ago
it's an a319 isn't it?
ich000001 2 years ago
No, 737-300
amarpilot 2 years ago
what a question didnt you look at the title ?
mjksoccer 2 years ago
noooooooooooooooooooooooop
fluginator 2 years ago
Seeing as it sort of lands on one wheel first and is a bit wobbly and windy maybe he decided to put those flaps back down after the front wheel came down to lower the wind resistance and make the ride smoother?
Maybe they went up again later?
Energonorama 2 years ago
very good pilot!
burschti 2 years ago
i wonder why the pilot did what he did?
Becuse he was still very fast when he was rolling down the runwany. Dose anybody know the distance of the runway as this particular airport?
jb7889 2 years ago
Its 4000 mtrs. So he had space. But never ever have I seen a plane retract her spoilers so quick.
amarpilot 2 years ago
wow! I am a pilot my self in traning for an ATPL and for a pilot to retract there spoliers that fast needs to seriously get a checkride.
jb7889 2 years ago
IF you want to say it was a interesting landing, maybe you should explain why..cause from my point of wiew...i just saw a plan land..and then no more...am i wrong about this..please tell me!
Nicke136 2 years ago
I have explained it a gazillion times. Try reading the discription aswell. :)
amarpilot 2 years ago
I am not pilot and expert, but the last thing we can see on this video that plane continuing moving on runaway,_ for me it's look like that this is just touch and go practice for pilots, may be I am wrong
plaksini 2 years ago
They did not go around. Schiphol doesn't allow touch and go training.
amarpilot 2 years ago
@amarpilot thank u for explanation i was thinking that it some kind of small airport without too much traffic,( i didn't read all tags,) to be honest it look like, thank u
plaksini 2 years ago
Very good video!!! I find it interesting as well....never sen that before either.
5/5 and Subbed.
Faxe14011991 2 years ago
Looks like this footage has been sped up to me.
surreyboy84 2 years ago
Skills on the pilot!
funtastik1985 2 years ago
Dat is voor het geluids overlast dacht ik.
fspilot221 2 years ago
long landing=saves alot of fuel and also diffrent pilots have diferent techniques of landings
joewheelermufc 2 years ago
how about the spoilers?
i guess spoliers dont cost any fuel ,right?
hhchungwe 2 years ago
yes but if there s a considerable amountof runway left and the pilot knows he can slow down in time it saves and problems like damaging th spoliers
joewheelermufc 2 years ago
the runway is long enough fo the plane to stop with out thrust reversers, thus, saving fuel
fsxking08 2 years ago
I can't any interesting part in this video?? :S It is a normal landing, spoilers extracted late cos pilot couldn't landed on two wheels first, so the plane couldn't get enough wheel pressure on them, as pilot put the two wheels and aircraft sits on the runway then automaticly spoilers opened.
IST314 2 years ago
Spoilers didn't deploy late, They retracted very fast. Normally, on 99% of the landings here they retract them on the taxiway. Its rare to see them retracted at 100 + knots.
amarpilot 2 years ago
it is 737, tiny aircraft u won't need reverse or spoilers to stop it :) when plane sat on the runway then pilot closed them :)
IST314 2 years ago
Yes, but read what I say, the other 99% do use both, so it makes it different, and therefore interesting. Its just normal procedure to keep them up until vacating the runway. Even when you are small or whatever.
amarpilot 2 years ago
Often you do close them when you deactivate your reversers...which should be around 60knots. In this case without reversers they are just used to destroy the remaining lift and prevent the plane from becoming airborne again after touchdown (which is their primary function). The additional drag created (and therefore additional deceleration) is more of a bonus. Nice to have but not really necessary on long runways under nominal conditions.
748fan 2 years ago
if this is the polderbaan runway at schipol the planes can only vacate the runway at the very bottom and there is no point in breaking quickly because he has loads of runway to roll out on. ;)
tombewick380 2 years ago
he also might just requested a long rollout
lh3245 2 years ago
I agree with b3rettaZ26. Using reverse thrusters uses more fuel. Plus, if this is your first time seeing a plane land with no thrust reverser, I'm very surprized because this isn't so intresting and this isn't the only airplane that doesn't use thrust reversers. It's only used seldom these days, well of course when you're running out of road to stop. Otherwise, they save it.
usafpilot29 2 years ago
u guys!
anddodo4 2 years ago
Long runway=save fuel
gamorza2002 2 years ago
exactly, long runway = no reverse needs only braking, less money needed to operate flight
kingboby12345 2 years ago
What is so special ,,interesting" on this landing?
trimair 2 years ago