@Venue0309 Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say. If I were in their position, I would definitely not want to reproduce in such poor conditions. But it takes education and contraceptives to be effective. I think that should be a part of foreign aid they get.
@yehcnimoigres They don't need bibles or condoms, they need food and money to survive.
It is these shortsighted appoarchs thats make me wonder if their are people in the US that understand what real suffering is in this world, or understands the world priorities.
There is a reason that they have a lot of kids...look at their average life expectancy, and you will see why.
@Venue0309 Did I fucking say they need bibles? Way to strawman. How is it shortsighted to suggest that they stabilize their population growth so that they need less resources and don't have so many kids suffering from malnutrition and starvation? To me it seems shortsighted to think that populations can just grow indefinitely while increasing the standard of living. Either we humans can realize our carrying capacity though birth control, or we can let nature do it through starvation and disease.
@yehcnimoigres The irony with your statement is that they--with all of their kids-- use less resources than an average American. So you wearing a condom and not procreating would save more resources.
Another point--if you want to reduce population growth, increasing living standards targeted through quality food, shelter and healthcare will work best. Families then would need less kids to earn a living and to carry on the family line.
@Venue0309 This is not some random thought I had. If you do your research before talking, you will understand my point and how dumb your point about condoms was.
People like you are the ones that really need to rethink your place in the world. Instead of being selfish, talking about these people are using too many resources, you should cut back and live on only the resourcare they use each day. Then you wouldn't be so arrogant.
@Venue0309 More name calling, more strawman. I know we use way more resources than they do. How does that change the fact that they're starving and could benefit from having less mouths to feed? Again, I support aid, but I also think the long term goal should be self-sufficiency, not dependence on foreign aid. And the United States Agency for International Development agrees with me about family planning. Where it's been tried, it has reduces population growth and infant mortality.
@Venue0309 "Early intensive efforts to improve family planning and control of fertility choices and to provide safe abortion, accompanied by a paced systematic and stepwise effort to scale up capacity for integrated maternal health services over several years, is as cost-effective as childhood immunization or treatment of malaria, tuberculosis, or HIV." (cont)
@Venue0309 "In just 5 y, more than 150,000 maternal deaths would be averted through increasing contraception rates to meet women's needs for spacing and limiting births; nearly US$1.5 billion would be saved by coupling safe abortion to aggressive family planning efforts; and with stepwise investments to improve access to pregnancy-related health services and to high-quality facility-based intrapartum care...(cont)"
@Venue0309 "...more than 75% of maternal deaths could be prevented. If accomplished over the next decade, the lives of more than one million women would be saved." - Alternative Strategies to Reduce Maternal Mortality in India: A Cost-Effectiveness Analysis, Goldie Sue J., Sweet S., et al. Just another source, in case you (understandably) don't trust a government agency.
@Venue0309 "In the 28 countries with the largest USAID-sponsored family planning programs, the average number of children per family has declined by more than one-third, from more than 6 children per family to fewer than 4. In densely populated Bangladesh, for example, the number of children per family has fallen by about half in just four decades." - USAID. It's not some random thought I had either.
@Venue0309 But please, if there's any research showing that condom use is not beneficial in starving, HIV infested sub-Saharan Africa, then I'd love to see it. I honestly thought the only people who believed that were Catholics.
@Venue0309 I know. That's why I'm not having any kids. Also, I never said they don't need aid. I just said it should be supplemented with family planning.
sometimes salary in Russia $200 per month and we pay for heating, cloths......etc
TheFirebeef 1 year ago
These people need condoms. They all have so many kids that they can't feed.
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@yehcnimoigres that was a stupid statement. You should switch places with them and see how much you would want condoms.
Venue0309 1 year ago
@Venue0309 Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say. If I were in their position, I would definitely not want to reproduce in such poor conditions. But it takes education and contraceptives to be effective. I think that should be a part of foreign aid they get.
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@yehcnimoigres They don't need bibles or condoms, they need food and money to survive.
It is these shortsighted appoarchs thats make me wonder if their are people in the US that understand what real suffering is in this world, or understands the world priorities.
There is a reason that they have a lot of kids...look at their average life expectancy, and you will see why.
Venue0309 1 year ago
@Venue0309 Did I fucking say they need bibles? Way to strawman. How is it shortsighted to suggest that they stabilize their population growth so that they need less resources and don't have so many kids suffering from malnutrition and starvation? To me it seems shortsighted to think that populations can just grow indefinitely while increasing the standard of living. Either we humans can realize our carrying capacity though birth control, or we can let nature do it through starvation and disease.
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@yehcnimoigres The irony with your statement is that they--with all of their kids-- use less resources than an average American. So you wearing a condom and not procreating would save more resources.
Another point--if you want to reduce population growth, increasing living standards targeted through quality food, shelter and healthcare will work best. Families then would need less kids to earn a living and to carry on the family line.
Venue0309 1 year ago
@Venue0309 This is not some random thought I had. If you do your research before talking, you will understand my point and how dumb your point about condoms was.
People like you are the ones that really need to rethink your place in the world. Instead of being selfish, talking about these people are using too many resources, you should cut back and live on only the resourcare they use each day. Then you wouldn't be so arrogant.
Venue0309 1 year ago
@Venue0309 More name calling, more strawman. I know we use way more resources than they do. How does that change the fact that they're starving and could benefit from having less mouths to feed? Again, I support aid, but I also think the long term goal should be self-sufficiency, not dependence on foreign aid. And the United States Agency for International Development agrees with me about family planning. Where it's been tried, it has reduces population growth and infant mortality.
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@Venue0309 "Early intensive efforts to improve family planning and control of fertility choices and to provide safe abortion, accompanied by a paced systematic and stepwise effort to scale up capacity for integrated maternal health services over several years, is as cost-effective as childhood immunization or treatment of malaria, tuberculosis, or HIV." (cont)
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@Venue0309 "In just 5 y, more than 150,000 maternal deaths would be averted through increasing contraception rates to meet women's needs for spacing and limiting births; nearly US$1.5 billion would be saved by coupling safe abortion to aggressive family planning efforts; and with stepwise investments to improve access to pregnancy-related health services and to high-quality facility-based intrapartum care...(cont)"
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@Venue0309 "...more than 75% of maternal deaths could be prevented. If accomplished over the next decade, the lives of more than one million women would be saved." - Alternative Strategies to Reduce Maternal Mortality in India: A Cost-Effectiveness Analysis, Goldie Sue J., Sweet S., et al. Just another source, in case you (understandably) don't trust a government agency.
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@Venue0309 "In the 28 countries with the largest USAID-sponsored family planning programs, the average number of children per family has declined by more than one-third, from more than 6 children per family to fewer than 4. In densely populated Bangladesh, for example, the number of children per family has fallen by about half in just four decades." - USAID. It's not some random thought I had either.
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@Venue0309 But please, if there's any research showing that condom use is not beneficial in starving, HIV infested sub-Saharan Africa, then I'd love to see it. I honestly thought the only people who believed that were Catholics.
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
@Venue0309 I know. That's why I'm not having any kids. Also, I never said they don't need aid. I just said it should be supplemented with family planning.
yehcnimoigres 1 year ago
upload more of that documentary ...
people must know and change this situation sooner or later
gabriel72r 3 years ago