I know you said at the start of your video that you don't want a laser printer because of the images, I have got a Samsung CLP-315 And the images are almost as good as an inkjet :P
I apreciate your comments, but If you do any research on the subject you will find that although your laser is good, inkjets still print the clearest and with the most pixels on Photopaper.
This, my friend, is a masterpiece! And a beutifull one at that, right down to the strain releaving nipples. The only thing I see that bugs me is that the yellow one has more strain on it. I'm wondering though... How do you deal with air build up in the cartridges? Or is this a concept model?
Thanks kindly. Well, yes it is a concept model. The pressure seems to not bother anything, as it leaks off fast through the valve, but the siphoning keeps it working and no air bubbles ever has entered the lines. If so, they would rise to the top of the cartridge, I would guess. I am sure the manufacturers could easily incorporate a more precise system into their machines....if they wanted too. Thanks for the comments.
Its nothing new. Its called CIS=continious ink supply or CIF=continious ink flow. Big Plotter got this for years. Printer manufactures never will do this with small printers cause they earn a lot of money with expensive ink but cheap printer. Thats the trick, make the printer cheap and the ink expensive.
Well it was new to me and I made it work. This video and my handiwork was just so I could plea with the Manufacturers to make cheaper ink. I am proud I made my own.
I made it myself from an old 1 way model airplane gas tank's 1 way valve and a plastic tube with a hard foam plunger and spring. Not too sophisticated, but it seems to run pretty well even without the pump!? Any manufacturer could easily make a spiffy pump for sure and make it so it worked all the time, you know...
It is common knowlege that Inkjet printers print the best pictures. I have a HP laser and it is expensive to change the cartrige and never printed as good as my Canon Printer. Be that as it may, the POINT is to make all cartridges cheaper. ya know!
Hi Dave nice bit of DIY there love the color coded baby bottles. Is it just me but are some of the comments down right rude and nasty there's no reason for that Dave's video's are both fun and informative. I like them quite a lot even tho I don't comment on them often but after reading the comments I had speak up.
Thanks very kindly for your comments and your support. There is always somebody, that likes to look smart and make ignorant comments, without any research. I can back up anything I say. AT my age, my grandpa was playing checkers with his hands, so I am just trying to stay way more active than that while I still can. Some folks just won't get it till they get to be my old. LOL. Again, I thank you for your kind words.
So if you aren't printing something full page you must pump the pump manually? I see at the end it done a little bit of text without the pump though. What happens if you print a high resolution picture though and the heads do not make it all the way over to the other side for the pump to make contact?
It doenst really need any pressure to work. The pump is just to keep the lines from going empty, as siphoning takes over after the lines are full. It was just a bit of an afterthought on the pump that I added just so I didnt have to prime the hoses. There is a tiny bit of residue pressure in the line, and Ive seen no bubbles yet. Thanks for the comments.
Ok, thank you for responding. Pretty impressive that you built your own CIS system. I bought mine off of ebay, though I wish I could build stuff like this. Nice work!
Genius, excellent design that works and solves a problem. Great work Dave and I do hope the printer manufacturers get alook at this. 5 Stars ***** Dave =)
It would be nice if the price of ink wold come down, that is for sure. I doubt this will do it though, as these CIS systems have been around for a few years now. My employer uses them, and I have used one on my HP printer for two years now. In my personal experience the ones with pumps work well, and are easier to maintain than ones that rely solely upon gravity, or priming. Ink republic makes a good CIS system, that is what I'm using now.
I never saw them before I decided to make this, but haven't seen any with air pumps like mine. But I just want ink prices down. Thanks for the comments.
Oooh, my dad had the calculator you have; he gave it to me to play with. It has been long broken and lost but I remember him telling me it was well over $100. :D
Thanks. Never had any problem so far. I'M using aftermarkiet LD products ink cartridges and they have a kind of clip on the side with a chip and they have not quit yet. If it quits, Ill let you know.
This is an awesome idea. i might just try it with an old printer i have laying around. I'm not totally sure but dont ink cartridges have some sort of sponge thingy inside? If so i would think that after a while it might get worn out or someting. maybe, maybe not
The sponge just keeps the ink from sloshing around while the head is going back and forth. It is like a makeup sponge and long lasting. I put my hoses right down into them. Not to worry, as Im sure it will last a heck of a lot longer that those onetime cartridges do. LOL.
I am not using the stock cartridges, and never had any problem yet. I have been told that those chips can be reset, but haven't used all my ink yet. It just keeps printing and printing and printing. Besides, the manufacturers can easily change those chips. That is the whole reason for this video in the first place. Lower the ink prices!
they make money with the ink cartridges. I think they are not gonna do this setup because it gonna sell a lot less cartridges like that...!! But I think it the way to go, your setup is really good and its environmentally friend because lot less used cartrides in the trash can! i really like see your ingenuity and for your age you are an awesome dude!! i hope im gonna be awake like you later!!
Hi Dave, the computer shop near our school in the Philippines has this kind of set-up. They used this set up to print more cause most of the students near it print there papers there when they cram like me haha. Anyway just want ask what made you guessed that the Philippines has this kind of prototype? cause yur correct
One of my Subscribers told me. I never knew or saw a setup like this before. Mine is unique with the pump anyway. I just would like this video to be a plea to Printer makers to lower the darn price of Ink like Kodak did. Thanks.
Your setup just looks the same with the printer that I saw. But anyway, nice set-up. It's very clean unlike the one I saw because it's already coming down into pieces lol.
when i need to print something but i dont have any ink left, and cant go out and buy some i get a syringe and food dye. Inject it strait in to the top no problems.
It can be hard to make black (you have to mix colors). But it works in a pinch.
Your calculations are correct. Manufacturers sell printers very cheaply and where they get you is the price of their so called "unique pigmented" inks.
It's a load of BS of course but your calculations prove that they make a TON of money on color ink cartridges. The more color ink tanks your printer takes the more expensive it is to operate.
That's great idea and prototype actually, instead of the bottles I would try to manufacture plexiglass reservoirs to hold the ink and maybe more durable tubing.
Like possibly something that you can attach to your printer on the side, hook up the hoses to the custom cartridges on your old printers and this could actually work.
Thanks very kindly for your comments. If I had enough silicone tubing, I would have used it. Im sure the Manufacturers could make a nice looking unit that would be more professional, if they see this. Some one will do it like you say, Im sure. Thanks again, and at least my Prototype worked.
That is a sweet set up! I'm going to try that! =D Awesome idea! ^ ^ I hope they the printer manufacturers do this too. I think you just saved me a lot of money and just gave me a fun project to do. Thanks!
Nice prototype, Dave. I purchased one of these systems off of ebay a few years ago, and they work quite well, although some better than others. There are a few DIY guides online that walk you through making an isobaric CIS setup. On Ebay they cost anywhere from 30.00 - 150.00, have a look if you are interested, there are several on Ebay currently. I like the looks of yours. Cheers
Yep, I'm not trying to sell anything except the point that printer ink is too high. I've been told others make them, but I never saw one before. Thanks. I just did it to see if I could, ya know.
LOl now dave has invented CIS (continuous ink systems) Do you not ever get tired of claiming other's inventions, Dave? Just like you invented the ETRM lol.
Never ever saw one in my life and besides mine is totally unique with a pump. I never asked for any money or a patent either, as I am just having fun making stuff that works... And I did invent the ETRM and that is well documented. Shame on you.
No, Dave, you did not invent the ETRM, and no that is not documented. You presented the idea back when electronics were to big and bulky to do such a think in a practical fashion, then some years later when they did it you claimed the idea. the only thing you ever "invented" in your life is that stupid helicopter that flies like a plane, and you know that, and at that someone had did it before you, only yours was picked up by Kyosho since you worked for them.
Not true. Pick Up the latest issue of Rotory Modeler Magazine. My etrm prototype was published in Radio Helicopter England plus others. Alexander Van De Rosteyne perfected it in Belgium and sold it to Ikarus. He even sent me the first one and asked me how I marketed my idea to Kyosho. I worked for Kyosho afterwards, not before and Chun Park (Ceo of Hitec) took it to Japan. How about PMing me as you are trying to cause hate and discontent that has nothing at all to do with this video.
Our monetary system still keeps us far away from utopia. Our society is unfortunately built on rotten foundations, in which is quite normal to make profit on still intentionally outdated technology. Yes they could make it advanced, cheaper and accesible to everyone, but then it wouldnt make them any profit. Best example of this is oil lobby which interests are mainly based on mantaining status quo of tehnological advancement.
I appreciate your effort though, It is nice of you to share this concept with other people. I would like to make one myself, cartridges were always overpriced. If there was more people like you and less naysayers a world would be a much nicer place.
I like the DIY approach, Dave. I've been using a CIS system for my Epson R260 printer for the past 2 years - which is the same thing, and I will never go back to regular cartridges again.
The problem is, the manufacturers will NEVER do something like this. The manufacturers take a loss when they sell the printers, but make their profit back by the ink cartridges.
Great idea dave and seems to work awesome too! If you have not already i would try and get a patent on that, i am unsure how those things work but it has to be worth looking in to!
I see only one problem and the reason that printer manufacturers would not want this device around is that as far as i am aware printer cartdridges is where they make all there money, in fact i heard once some printers are sold at a loss relying on cartdridge sales to make profit.
Thanks sir. I just did it to see if I could and try to get the Printer Manufacturers to lower prices. Kodak did, and I figure if they can so can others. Thanks again.
Haha. Thanks. I appreciate that. I removed that sarcastic comment already. Your a good man. I'm afraid the Knockoff office would copy it anyway. Maybe if just the manufactures would go for it, we could all benefit. Thanks again. ~Dave
wow great invention. unfortunately printer manufacturers make most of their money on ink so i dont think this will be introduced. they actually sue mom and pop places that refill ink for greatly cheaper than the price of new ink. so how much was that ink in the bottles all together? i might start a summer project early :D who knows.
So true, so true, but Kodak listened and just reduced their ink prices by almost half. Heck if they can, I think the others can too. Using refill kits, it was about $150. or the price of 3 sets of cartridges at $60 each.
I tried that too, but it sure was time consuming and sometimes they never worked. Just trying to get the Mfg attention here for lower prices like Kodak did.
I've noticed a problem that could happen your setup. The inkjet printer measures the remaining ink by chips mounted on the cartridges. The printer tells the chip how much ink has been used each print, and the chip would deduct that from the previous amount it memorized.
So it doesn't matter if you have a 1 liter tank, as soon as the printer uses up 10ml, the chip would tell the printer to stop printing.
CISS kit manufactures got around by installing custom auto-reset chips on their kits.
The chip doesn't actually measure the liquid left in the cartridge. It just the number of the the maximun amount of ink that was suppose to be in the cartridge when it was first manufactured.
Everytime you print something, it would subtract the amount that was supposely used by the printer.
In otherword, even if you still have a full cartridge. The chip would still say that it's empty, because it has recorded that the printer has used 10ml, which's the full capacity of the stock cartridge.
I don't comment often but this is a very neat idea. As always I enjoy your videos. Please keep up the good work as it is very appreciated.
kraenee 2 years ago 2
Thanks very kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I know you said at the start of your video that you don't want a laser printer because of the images, I have got a Samsung CLP-315 And the images are almost as good as an inkjet :P
sousuke121 2 years ago
I apreciate your comments, but If you do any research on the subject you will find that although your laser is good, inkjets still print the clearest and with the most pixels on Photopaper.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Wow! INGENIOUS! Any chance you could make one for my Dell Photo AIO Printer 966? ; ). I do agree; ink prices are rediculous!
eclipsechick33 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
This, my friend, is a masterpiece! And a beutifull one at that, right down to the strain releaving nipples. The only thing I see that bugs me is that the yellow one has more strain on it. I'm wondering though... How do you deal with air build up in the cartridges? Or is this a concept model?
buckstarchaser 2 years ago
Thanks kindly. Well, yes it is a concept model. The pressure seems to not bother anything, as it leaks off fast through the valve, but the siphoning keeps it working and no air bubbles ever has entered the lines. If so, they would rise to the top of the cartridge, I would guess. I am sure the manufacturers could easily incorporate a more precise system into their machines....if they wanted too. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
good work at all ;-)
triangletrexx 2 years ago
Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Its nothing new. Its called CIS=continious ink supply or CIF=continious ink flow. Big Plotter got this for years. Printer manufactures never will do this with small printers cause they earn a lot of money with expensive ink but cheap printer. Thats the trick, make the printer cheap and the ink expensive.
triangletrexx 2 years ago
Well it was new to me and I made it work. This video and my handiwork was just so I could plea with the Manufacturers to make cheaper ink. I am proud I made my own.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Thanks for the video... Where did you source the pump? I can't find anything like it via Google.
Thanks...
iamcolorfinger 2 years ago
I made it myself from an old 1 way model airplane gas tank's 1 way valve and a plastic tube with a hard foam plunger and spring. Not too sophisticated, but it seems to run pretty well even without the pump!? Any manufacturer could easily make a spiffy pump for sure and make it so it worked all the time, you know...
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Tried to PM you, Much appreciation for the CIS demo... Where did you source the pump? I've been trying to Google it all afternoon with no results.
Thanks, Bob ?;O)
iamcolorfinger 2 years ago
Sorry it take so long. Im looking at over 1260 pms and email notices from yt, so it takes lots of time. I answered you above.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
the picture that you printed was that you holding the christian eagle model? we had a ce2 for a bit now we have an extra 300s
2tallbrandon 2 years ago
Thanks. Yep, I love bipes but extra 300s are great performers.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly. I appreciate that.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I am totally in awe at your skill!!! I take my hat off to you, good design. I wish i half the ability of you in this stuff!!
kiltedanaconda 2 years ago
Thanks for your kind comments. I appreciate that. I just do, and if it works great, ya know?! LOL.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Human blood costs less than stupid ink? Oh my gosh!
coffeeandsugar20 2 years ago
Makes a person think,huh?
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
nich bottle
riakomputer 2 years ago
13.95 is a deal!
irulethe70s 2 years ago
i have a color lase and it rints AMAZING pictures and i refill the toner
irulethe70s 2 years ago
It is common knowlege that Inkjet printers print the best pictures. I have a HP laser and it is expensive to change the cartrige and never printed as good as my Canon Printer. Be that as it may, the POINT is to make all cartridges cheaper. ya know!
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
i hate paying 30.00 for my color/black
irulethe70s 2 years ago
i like my color lasers photo quality
irulethe70s 2 years ago
dave you never cease to amaze me .. lets see if you can make that printer fly??? or a used one ... that would be awesome??? lol
chris
cutter043 2 years ago
Haha. I am laughing out loud...Hmmmm? Well maybe if I put a motor on the.........
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
HAHA WOW EXCELLENT
FlashPoint911 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Hi Dave nice bit of DIY there love the color coded baby bottles. Is it just me but are some of the comments down right rude and nasty there's no reason for that Dave's video's are both fun and informative. I like them quite a lot even tho I don't comment on them often but after reading the comments I had speak up.
Keep posting Dave and I'll keep watching.
Jr.
warwolfmk2 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly for your comments and your support. There is always somebody, that likes to look smart and make ignorant comments, without any research. I can back up anything I say. AT my age, my grandpa was playing checkers with his hands, so I am just trying to stay way more active than that while I still can. Some folks just won't get it till they get to be my old. LOL. Again, I thank you for your kind words.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Why are you policing the comments, you don't on your other videos do you?
dwrayosrfour 2 years ago
It makes it faster for me, answering now over 300 a day.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
So if you aren't printing something full page you must pump the pump manually? I see at the end it done a little bit of text without the pump though. What happens if you print a high resolution picture though and the heads do not make it all the way over to the other side for the pump to make contact?
dwrayosrfour 2 years ago
It doenst really need any pressure to work. The pump is just to keep the lines from going empty, as siphoning takes over after the lines are full. It was just a bit of an afterthought on the pump that I added just so I didnt have to prime the hoses. There is a tiny bit of residue pressure in the line, and Ive seen no bubbles yet. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Ok, thank you for responding. Pretty impressive that you built your own CIS system. I bought mine off of ebay, though I wish I could build stuff like this. Nice work!
dwrayosrfour 2 years ago
way cool, im going to try this with my canon MP210
42Petes 2 years ago
Thanks much.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
hey, cool video. If you would like to get this video more exposure I use thetubeviews . [com], you should check them out sometime
ps. Thank You So Much!
LindsayHarshman 2 years ago
Thanks for the kudos and tip.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
you have to be very smart to make one . My dad fixes computes
halo22222q 2 years ago
Thanks kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
thats amazing! the only thing that I can think of is purging the system of air, otherwise i see few problems, if any.
nice work
love2fish93 2 years ago
Thanks kindly. So low of pressure, it seems fine so far.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Genius, excellent design that works and solves a problem. Great work Dave and I do hope the printer manufacturers get alook at this. 5 Stars ***** Dave =)
JaSeY963 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly. Me too.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
It would be nice if the price of ink wold come down, that is for sure. I doubt this will do it though, as these CIS systems have been around for a few years now. My employer uses them, and I have used one on my HP printer for two years now. In my personal experience the ones with pumps work well, and are easier to maintain than ones that rely solely upon gravity, or priming. Ink republic makes a good CIS system, that is what I'm using now.
doug0126 2 years ago
I never saw them before I decided to make this, but haven't seen any with air pumps like mine. But I just want ink prices down. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
love the idea, Q; your air pump, it pumps air into all inks, what if ur only using one color, pressure build up on those not used?
HandMeThePliers 2 years ago
Thanks very much. I appreciate that. The pressure equalizes between the 4 bottles and I've seen no problems yet, or leaks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Wow, you're really gifted with tinkering and fabricating! I
WoodstaS 2 years ago
Thanks very much for your kind words.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Oooh, my dad had the calculator you have; he gave it to me to play with. It has been long broken and lost but I remember him telling me it was well over $100. :D
lilmoomoo 2 years ago
WOW. I was wondering if others would recognize that. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
No, She lives with me.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Haha I love the baby bottle ink tanks!
how do you stop the chip in the cartridges telling the print they should have ran out of ink ages ago?
how often do you need to use the little prime pump?
maybe it could be possitioned so the the part moving back and fore hits it on the return and pumps automaticaly?
djdavies83 2 years ago
Thanks. Never had any problem so far. I'M using aftermarkiet LD products ink cartridges and they have a kind of clip on the side with a chip and they have not quit yet. If it quits, Ill let you know.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
This is an awesome idea. i might just try it with an old printer i have laying around. I'm not totally sure but dont ink cartridges have some sort of sponge thingy inside? If so i would think that after a while it might get worn out or someting. maybe, maybe not
bobebobebob 2 years ago
Thanks kindly.
The sponge just keeps the ink from sloshing around while the head is going back and forth. It is like a makeup sponge and long lasting. I put my hoses right down into them. Not to worry, as Im sure it will last a heck of a lot longer that those onetime cartridges do. LOL.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
wow nice to see someone fighting back against the fat cat s were all fed up of being ripped off by printer makers .
keith
SINCLAIRRESEARCH 2 years ago
Hi Keith, Thanks very kindly. You are so right.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
thanks dave when i bye ink for my dell i spend 75 to 100 dollars and it dosen't last long i love this idea thanks again
jbrannon69 2 years ago
Thanks kindly. Let's hope the Manufacturers go for it or lower their prices at least, like Kodak did.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Hi Dave,
Great idea.
How you get passed the fact that most modern printers know when there ink cartridges are empty buy usage time and not the amount of ink inside them?
Ive got an Epson cx6600 and spend around £10 GBP on each colour to replace them ,
The printer sayes that they are empty but when i remove them there is still some ink inside.
Even when i refilled them they wont work as each cartridge has a chip inside and is timed for the amount of usage it gets.
Rhin0Neil 2 years ago
I am not using the stock cartridges, and never had any problem yet. I have been told that those chips can be reset, but haven't used all my ink yet. It just keeps printing and printing and printing. Besides, the manufacturers can easily change those chips. That is the whole reason for this video in the first place. Lower the ink prices!
Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
they make money with the ink cartridges. I think they are not gonna do this setup because it gonna sell a lot less cartridges like that...!! But I think it the way to go, your setup is really good and its environmentally friend because lot less used cartrides in the trash can! i really like see your ingenuity and for your age you are an awesome dude!! i hope im gonna be awake like you later!!
QuebecoisSti 2 years ago
Your so right, but I had to make my Plea anyway. I really appreciate your kind comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Hi Dave, the computer shop near our school in the Philippines has this kind of set-up. They used this set up to print more cause most of the students near it print there papers there when they cram like me haha. Anyway just want ask what made you guessed that the Philippines has this kind of prototype? cause yur correct
AdrianEADR 2 years ago
One of my Subscribers told me. I never knew or saw a setup like this before. Mine is unique with the pump anyway. I just would like this video to be a plea to Printer makers to lower the darn price of Ink like Kodak did. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Your setup just looks the same with the printer that I saw. But anyway, nice set-up. It's very clean unlike the one I saw because it's already coming down into pieces lol.
AdrianEADR 2 years ago
Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I love the idea, but don't forget, this is a capitalist world.
B4its2L8guy 2 years ago
Thanks. Well it used to be, seems like we are heading for Socialism these days, and that is sad. But I had to try, right.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
when i need to print something but i dont have any ink left, and cant go out and buy some i get a syringe and food dye. Inject it strait in to the top no problems.
It can be hard to make black (you have to mix colors). But it works in a pinch.
BuffaloWarrior7 2 years ago
Yeah, I used to do that. I just am trying to get the prices down with this video. Thanks for your comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
they do this for commercial printers for banners and signs and car wraps and such
ehazel 2 years ago
Yes, I know. I just think it is time we all get some ink discounts and the point of the video.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Hi.
Your calculations are correct. Manufacturers sell printers very cheaply and where they get you is the price of their so called "unique pigmented" inks.
It's a load of BS of course but your calculations prove that they make a TON of money on color ink cartridges. The more color ink tanks your printer takes the more expensive it is to operate.
longwave2007 2 years ago
Thanks for your kind remarks sir and you know I agree.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Mr.Herbert what about the ink bottles that arent being used> wontt they over presurize
Airomaster121 2 years ago
No sir. They are connected and are pressurized equally.
A regulator could be put on if needed, but the amount of pressure is really low and Ive seen no problem.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
That's great idea and prototype actually, instead of the bottles I would try to manufacture plexiglass reservoirs to hold the ink and maybe more durable tubing.
Like possibly something that you can attach to your printer on the side, hook up the hoses to the custom cartridges on your old printers and this could actually work.
But this is just a start and a great one at that.
thehilitereel 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly for your comments. If I had enough silicone tubing, I would have used it. Im sure the Manufacturers could make a nice looking unit that would be more professional, if they see this. Some one will do it like you say, Im sure. Thanks again, and at least my Prototype worked.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
wow your gonna be the next bill gates if you get this patented
b1iuzw39 2 years ago
Thanks, but I just did it to see if I could.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
That is a sweet set up! I'm going to try that! =D Awesome idea! ^ ^ I hope they the printer manufacturers do this too. I think you just saved me a lot of money and just gave me a fun project to do. Thanks!
undertake782 2 years ago
Thanks kindly. I hope they get the idea.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Thats an awsome design. but what happens to the tubes when you put the top down? Can you scan and print?
ArcAngel9008 2 years ago
I I can scan with the lid up. This is just for the prototype, and Manufacturers could certainly make one that closed.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Nice prototype, Dave. I purchased one of these systems off of ebay a few years ago, and they work quite well, although some better than others. There are a few DIY guides online that walk you through making an isobaric CIS setup. On Ebay they cost anywhere from 30.00 - 150.00, have a look if you are interested, there are several on Ebay currently. I like the looks of yours. Cheers
rcfan238 2 years ago
Yep, I'm not trying to sell anything except the point that printer ink is too high. I've been told others make them, but I never saw one before. Thanks. I just did it to see if I could, ya know.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Here is cannon's version of "your invention," Dave.
howtorefill . com/images/samples/Continuous_Ink_System_for_Canon.jpg
icecoldbeerr 2 years ago
Yep, never saw it before, so never called it and invention.; Just a design that is also unique with a pump.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
LOl now dave has invented CIS (continuous ink systems) Do you not ever get tired of claiming other's inventions, Dave? Just like you invented the ETRM lol.
icecoldbeerr 2 years ago
Never ever saw one in my life and besides mine is totally unique with a pump. I never asked for any money or a patent either, as I am just having fun making stuff that works... And I did invent the ETRM and that is well documented. Shame on you.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
No, Dave, you did not invent the ETRM, and no that is not documented. You presented the idea back when electronics were to big and bulky to do such a think in a practical fashion, then some years later when they did it you claimed the idea. the only thing you ever "invented" in your life is that stupid helicopter that flies like a plane, and you know that, and at that someone had did it before you, only yours was picked up by Kyosho since you worked for them.
icecoldbeerr 2 years ago
Not true. Pick Up the latest issue of Rotory Modeler Magazine. My etrm prototype was published in Radio Helicopter England plus others. Alexander Van De Rosteyne perfected it in Belgium and sold it to Ikarus. He even sent me the first one and asked me how I marketed my idea to Kyosho. I worked for Kyosho afterwards, not before and Chun Park (Ceo of Hitec) took it to Japan. How about PMing me as you are trying to cause hate and discontent that has nothing at all to do with this video.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Im sorry buddy. But ive seen alot of products like this
koalabear2 2 years ago
Im sorry too, as I havent.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Our monetary system still keeps us far away from utopia. Our society is unfortunately built on rotten foundations, in which is quite normal to make profit on still intentionally outdated technology. Yes they could make it advanced, cheaper and accesible to everyone, but then it wouldnt make them any profit. Best example of this is oil lobby which interests are mainly based on mantaining status quo of tehnological advancement.
daredevillive 2 years ago
Well said.l
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I appreciate your effort though, It is nice of you to share this concept with other people. I would like to make one myself, cartridges were always overpriced. If there was more people like you and less naysayers a world would be a much nicer place.
daredevillive 2 years ago
THanks kindly. I appreciate your comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I like the DIY approach, Dave. I've been using a CIS system for my Epson R260 printer for the past 2 years - which is the same thing, and I will never go back to regular cartridges again.
The problem is, the manufacturers will NEVER do something like this. The manufacturers take a loss when they sell the printers, but make their profit back by the ink cartridges.
GTScelica93 2 years ago
I never saw one, before this, but everybody likes to point out the others. Mine is unique, though with a pump. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
that was cool. patent it before someone makes millions with your idea.
austinsfarm 2 years ago
I guess someone already has. I just did this for fun anyway and to get the point across about the price of printer ink. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Things like this have actually been around for quite a while. i know canon has one for there high end photo printers!
Try searching Google for:
Continuous Ink Systems
There are quite a few out there homemade and commercial.
snowblader13 2 years ago
Yeah, like I said, I never saw one before and My design is unique with a pump.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
lol try putting alternatives to the colors, like maybe blood as red ink xD
josephgrovers 2 years ago
LOL Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Good background music Dave !!!
JERRRRRRY1976 2 years ago
Haha. THanks
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
nice
john55223 2 years ago
Thanks
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Great idea dave and seems to work awesome too! If you have not already i would try and get a patent on that, i am unsure how those things work but it has to be worth looking in to!
I see only one problem and the reason that printer manufacturers would not want this device around is that as far as i am aware printer cartdridges is where they make all there money, in fact i heard once some printers are sold at a loss relying on cartdridge sales to make profit.
Great idea for aftermarket though!
ElroyHarvey 2 years ago
Thanks sir. I just did it to see if I could and try to get the Printer Manufacturers to lower prices. Kodak did, and I figure if they can so can others. Thanks again.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
FINALLY, now people wont call me crazy for using human blood in my printer!
Just kidding, thats a really good idea u should get a patent.
quack447 2 years ago
Thanks. Blood Printers, eh? I just want printer manufacturers to do it. If I patent it, they would just copy it anyway. LOL.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! you could make a lot of money with that. i suggest you open a company making those!!!!
chopper82p 2 years ago
Haha. Thanks. It has been pointed out that someone already makes something similar, but not like mine with the pump.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
You could make MILLIONS on this idea!!! Nice job!
Geminimissions 2 years ago
I just want the Manufacturers to do this, but thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
you are way too cool.
ikb01 2 years ago
Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Take a "pattent"!
saxracing 2 years ago
Not trying to do that. I just want the manufacturers to make something like this for the consumers to lower ink prices. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
kool
sunnyboy9711 2 years ago
Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Dave Herbert. Making youtubers go "why didn't I do that?" since FOREVER!
JustBlowItUp8192 2 years ago
Thanks sir. I guess it has been done already, but I proved the point to my self that mine would work with the pump.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
nice vid!!
GODHhunterH 2 years ago
Thanks kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Great idea Dave. You really should patent this and go to some of the major companies with it. And no, you don't look like hitler lol.... 5/5
ssrc30 2 years ago
Haha. Thanks. I appreciate that. I removed that sarcastic comment already. Your a good man. I'm afraid the Knockoff office would copy it anyway. Maybe if just the manufactures would go for it, we could all benefit. Thanks again. ~Dave
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
You really should put this idea foward to one of the big photo-graphic companies like KODAK well that is if you havnt already. Love the prototype!
54321doug 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Wow!
craaazycat 2 years ago
AHAHAHA cool XD
Flap1987 2 years ago
That is flipping brilliant. The margin on printer ink is mind blowing.
fishingdan 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly. So true, so true.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
favourite to my channel. thanx for sharing sir.
kapitanC 2 years ago
Thanks kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Very well done Dave and a great video,5*
startazz 2 years ago
Thank you sir.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Tanks for the video..
floodtube1 2 years ago
LOL. Tanks back.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
WOW!! Thats amazing Dave! I'm currently trying to order the T-Rex 500 ESP... so that'll be fun!
Sheldon
sheldonholy 2 years ago
Thanks sir. Hope you get it soon.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I love that you're building your own CIS, it's an interesting project that I've spent some time pondering on some myself.
A question, how do you reset the ink supply level chip in the cartridges?
Have you looked at some of the commercially available CIS units such as in this video watch?v=86xPmuMqd3c
GeeKayKayGee 2 years ago
I never have to reset the chips in mine and can easily fill the unit, as I use my own designed air pump.
I never have seen the setup from the Phillipines till now. I spend lots of time in computer shops too since the beginning too.
Anyway, see my comments in the description box for more. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
i have seen many of your videos and after seeing you build so many things and seeing you with this. I must say you are amazing at building things.
josephgrovers 2 years ago
Thanks. That is very kind of you to say.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
so how much did it cost for the inkin this little trial period?
i may use my own blood in mine, its cheaper ain't it? just have to get used to red everything!! haha
psychodelicdragon 2 years ago
Haha. 4 refill kits at $30 each, plus lots of trial and error.
Blood is definitely cheaper. LOL.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Very nice!!!
projectcyclopsrpv 2 years ago
Thank you kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
wow great invention. unfortunately printer manufacturers make most of their money on ink so i dont think this will be introduced. they actually sue mom and pop places that refill ink for greatly cheaper than the price of new ink. so how much was that ink in the bottles all together? i might start a summer project early :D who knows.
vikingo89us 2 years ago
So true, so true, but Kodak listened and just reduced their ink prices by almost half. Heck if they can, I think the others can too. Using refill kits, it was about $150. or the price of 3 sets of cartridges at $60 each.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
HQ now? Niiiiiiiice.
azh01e 2 years ago
Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Somewhere in Iowa there's a baby looking for their bottle. Another great invention from DaveCo. Ron Popeil would be proud.
23mag23 2 years ago
Haha. Im laughing out loud for sure. Thanks
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Great idea Dave. l like this alot.
5 Stars ~ Eric
joehandsome99 2 years ago
Thanks Eric. I appreciate the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
you better get a patten on this fast
-Cabais
kamuicabais 2 years ago
Holy shit dude
Nice invention
But you need a new printer, this thing is slow :|
But this invention is amazing
UltiGamer101 2 years ago
Thanks. I do have a new printer, but I used this one to prove a point.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Nice idea! I personaly just use refill kits to refill mine. It saves lots of money.
Xx11HaloGuy11xX 2 years ago
I tried that too, but it sure was time consuming and sometimes they never worked. Just trying to get the Mfg attention here for lower prices like Kodak did.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I think I saw that machine in a old wolfman movie!! My Wif likes your idea!
revmkell 2 years ago
Haha. Thanks and thank the Mrs too.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Great invention.
GRIDKEEPER 2 years ago
Thank you sir
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I've noticed a problem that could happen your setup. The inkjet printer measures the remaining ink by chips mounted on the cartridges. The printer tells the chip how much ink has been used each print, and the chip would deduct that from the previous amount it memorized.
So it doesn't matter if you have a 1 liter tank, as soon as the printer uses up 10ml, the chip would tell the printer to stop printing.
CISS kit manufactures got around by installing custom auto-reset chips on their kits.
danshyu 2 years ago
I can refill the bottles before anything ever goes dry.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
The chip doesn't actually measure the liquid left in the cartridge. It just the number of the the maximun amount of ink that was suppose to be in the cartridge when it was first manufactured.
Everytime you print something, it would subtract the amount that was supposely used by the printer.
In otherword, even if you still have a full cartridge. The chip would still say that it's empty, because it has recorded that the printer has used 10ml, which's the full capacity of the stock cartridge.
danshyu 2 years ago
You re-invented the wheel. I have 2 of them in my home office, one dye ink the other pigment ink. Search on eBay for "CIS" or Continuous Ink Supply.
CommanderBubba 2 years ago