@RedMustangRN I don't mind that much about the job. I know its not a very fun job, because my mum was a nurse for several years. She left because they have so much work and paperwork to do and the job is really stressful. Working in a hospital with patients what I have always felt I was meant to do. I have no other reason to find another career. I don't wish to do anything else. You should come to Australia. People are nice over here. What kind of nurse are you?
@RedMustangRN Thats great to hear you are still in your 20s, it means there is still time for you before you become that 'bitter old hag' you previously referred to yourself as. You clearly don't have much self respect otherwise you wouldn't be in a job you so clearly hate! No I am not yet a nurse and I sincerely hope that my attitude doesn't change because if I become like you then god help me and the patients. Perhaps you should take a career break maybe get some counselling! Might help! :D
@RedMustangRN How long have you been in nursing for? I have never had problems with abuse, harrassment and bullying. How would doing nursing have those problems. I already know a lot of people going to the same school I will be going to. People are nice where I live.
@RedMustangRN Sigh!! Sounds like another fed up down troddin nurse who ought to take earlier retirement and although those of us a little more enthusiastic about our jobs actually get one! And I think I do no about the hardships and disadvantages of nursing I see them everyday I go to work but the biggest hardship is working with colleagues who complain none stop, and the poor me's. Also I no nurses are treated like dirt, student nurses more so, if you read my earlier comment you'd see that! :)
@RedMustangRN I do see how there may not be a very big nursing shortage, lol because there are so many people going into nursing school. I can't see how there would be bullying or harrasment. I know lots of people who are doing or going to do nursing, who are really nice. Maby where you're from is different. What happened to your account?
@jqlzp Nope, its not a really bad job, in fact its a really great job! It provides nurses all over the world with so many great opportunities! But it is very hard, very tiring and in most places you get very little thanks for the work you do! However, most nurses aren't in the job for the glory and recognition (whilst that would be welcomed), most nurses are in the job solely for the satisfaction of helping someone feel better in times of pain, suffering and vulnerability! Don't be put off!
@ExplorerBrock I think I might apply for division 2 nursing school next year. I want to do nursing mostly because I like anatomy and working in a hospital, but I don't mind helping people too. Are you a nurse?
@jqlzp I am a final year student nurse in Ireland! Yes liking anatomy and working in a hospital will definitely help, but there is a lot more to nursing than that. You must be able to care for people individually, holistically and non-judgementally. You also need to be serious about wanting to help people otherwise you could become very disenchanted with nursing. But if its something you are really considering, go for it the satisfaction beats any reward! Surgical nursing might suit you better!
@ExplorerBrock I've always been interested in surgery. I think I might choose that as my specialization later, but I may choose other ones instead. I'm not to sure yet. I think I'm going to get enough experience then choose. What made you want to become a nurse?
@jqlzp Yea I thought by your earlier post that surgery would be something that would suit you! :D
Yea you are right to get experience before you settle but the fantastic thing about nursing is that you never really have to settle, there is always changes being made to healthcare and it is evolving every day, whilst the area you end up in might see the same patients, etc your work and the way you approach it will always be different or vice versa!
@ExplorerBrock Well I have always wanted to be a paramedic and even though I am doing nursing I hope to go on and do my training and become a paramedic! But the other career I was interested in was counselling/psychology! lol! You can get the drift of want line of work I want to be in, something in healthcare including mental health!
I am a people person. It makes me truly happy when someone says to me 'thanks that's better.' Knowing that I was part that leaves me feeling whole. I think the ability to help someone else is a gift that we all have and at some point in our lives all use. But the fact that there is a job out there that allowed me to do that on a regular basis just drew me in! Nursing has many hardships and disadvantages but personally these are small prices to pay!
@jqlzp I am currently in my final year on a palliative care placement. Its tough and its really sad/depressing but for me it epitomises the very reason I went into nursing. Apart from palliative care, I also like rehabilitation and/or acute medical settings. I have not yet had a placement in A&E or ICU (that is to come) but I am sure they will have their quirks too. By the way RedMustangRN is just pissed, they should also know better than to rely on google, EBP is v.imp in nursing as they know!
@jqlzp We all make mistakes we are only human at the end of the day and things happen! But I have never made any life threatening or life alterating mistakes (touch wood).
Well what kind of things are you into apart from music? Is there any such thing as youth clubs or perhaps you could volunteer to work somewhere in your community. Maybe there is a volunteer scheme in the hospitals whereby you can go and help with things like bed-making etc. Would be a start!
@ExplorerBrock Does anyone get angry when you make a mistake or do they just correct you and move on?
I think they have groups at university, but I'm not going there yet. I do go to my church's youth group sometimes though. I don't know if they have volunteering here.
You must be really proffessional lol. 12 years is a lot.
@ExplorerBrock Palliative care, care of the dying or terminally ill!
Sure there are always problems, no matter were or what you want to do! Nursing is a very tough career to try and pursue but if its what you really want go for it there are also many benefits. However be prepared to lose your social life, it usually takes a back seat in nursing!
@ExplorerBrock RedMustangRN says he got bullied a lot. I also read people can be mean in nursing on forums. I can't see how that's true, everyone I know is nice. I know nursing is really stressfull and takes a lot of work. Do you get along with everybody where you work?
@jqlzp Ah that explains the hate and misery he feels for nursing. Yes nursing can have that tendency, ward managers and charge nurses/lecturers can make those below them's life a misery, unfortunately thats a trait most professions see! Also nursing school can b very testing in that same way, but whilst they r everywhere the people who do this are in the minority. Bullying in the work force is very common but don't lose site of the reasons u started nursing. Yes mostly but its not always easy!
@jqlzp On every ward you have one person or a small group of people who can make life difficult but generally I find them all ok! Where I am from nurses are very much over worked and under paid and appreciated (UK/Ireland). Nurses are in a battle every day trying to fight for their jobs, equipment and NHS funding. So they are under a great deal of pressure to perform without the backup of the government but they do the best they can with the resources they have. I hope to go to Oz though SOON!
@ExplorerBrock I'm not sure if I will be doing nursing anymore. I might apply for a diploma of science or health science, because they will get me into a bachelor of biomedicine or health science which are pathways into graduate entry medicine. Nursing can get you into medicine to, but its not as easy and they use different subjects. I'm confused what to apply for now lol. Why do you hope to come to Oz? Do they have better healthcare over here?
@jqlzp Medicine? Yea lol that sounds more like you! Well either way make sure you choose what is right for you because it is after all the career you will spend your life in (if you choose not to change, etc). Your work can either make you very happy or very miserable!
Yes apparently so but I'm not sure! But nurses are way better paid (the salary nurses earn after 30 years service here is what nurses in Oz start of on) and the lifestyle/weather is way better (you lot have a summer & less rain)
@ExplorerBrock I always wanted to be a doctor lol but my grades are really bad. That's why I can't choose between science and nursing. I don't want to get stuck with science because I couldn't get into medicine, but I'm okay with being stuck in the nursing career. It is also a lot shorter.I guess I can always go to nursing if I fail science. The weather here is wierd lol it changes randomly. It rains on sunny days. It depends which state you are in though. Which one are you planning to visit?
@jqlzp Yea I think it would suit you! This might sound cheesy but were there's a will there's a way! Don't give up on it! Sometimes taking the long way round might be 2 our benefit as opposed 2 our detriment, think, u will be more mature and understanding come then. Nursing wud also b good in that it would give u more of an insight into the hospital environment.
Wel, it rains here pretty much 365 days of the year and if we do have sun it is still cold!
@ExplorerBrock True. I don't know whether I would like being a doctor or a nurse more. Doctors have to spend so much time studying, while nurses don't have as much. They seem to have more time to spend with patients. I used to live in brisbane lol but then I moved to melbourne. The weather changes a lot here. It sometimes rains in summer and is sunny in winter, but its mostly really cold in winter and really warm in summer. Have you been to Australia before?
@jqlzp Well now there's your 1st mistake! lol! While nursing school might be shorter initially, studying and exams/courses/training is an ongoing part of nursing. The NMC or the ANMC in ur case states that nurses must keep up-to-date with the latest practices etc. It could be seen as negligent if nurses didnt do this! Besides we have to prove ourselves to the doctors, don't 4get we save their ass's a lot of the time!
Which do you prefer? I'd love 2 live anywer on the gold coast! No never! WBU?
@ExplorerBrock I hear about that. My mum told me about it because she was a nurse for a bit. I seen it on scrubs to lol. How do you know if you are up to date with everything. It seems easy to miss out on something. Lol I heard nurses correct residents especially, becuase there new.
I like Melbourne better, Brisbane is nice in the winter but really hot in summer. Its good though you can go to the beach every day. I haven't been to the gold goast. Maby I'll go for schoolies week lol.
@jqlzp Yea its relentless that way. Erm there is always training programmes being run, here in ireland you have to do your moving and handling and ALS training amongst other things annually to keep up with the changes in healthcare!
Yea but you learn from your peers and colleagues so correcting each other isn't a bad thing, its just how some nurses do it! They can be condescending sometimes thats all!
God I dunno if I'll be able 2 stick the heat much tho not used to it! Whats schoolies week?
@ExplorerBrock Do you have to do any work at home? I'm not very good with working with a team lol. I guess I will have to get better social skills to be a nurse lol. The heat is okay in winter, its only the summer where it gets really warm. Schoolies week is a week of partying for school leavers. It's most popular on the Gold Coast, but it is also celebrated in other states. I'm not going though.
Do you mean placement? If you do then yes, we spend 50% of the time in university and the other 50% of the time working in hospitals, nursing homes,etc. I also have a part-time job outside of my university work so yes I work (ALOT)!
I'm 20! We can leave school at 16 or stay on until we r 18!
Schoolies week sounds like fun then! We only go out and get drunk (usually) the night we leave school after a mass and leaving ceremony at the school! lol!
@jqlzp I left school 2 years ago there past in June!
We have formals but they are like a big party where everyone dresses up in formal gear, kind of like the american school balls only we call them formals and our after partys is after the formal @ like 4 in the morning!
We don't have a formal of afterparty for leaving school technically, just a leaving mass and party!
@ExplorerBrock We can leave when we finish year 10, but we have two stay in school two more years if we want to get our VCE. I just finished almost a month ago.
I think our formals our almost the same. Ours finished at midnight. Does your school have muck up day?
@jqlzp That doesn't make much sense to me simply because I don't know what ages is year 10. We can leave school in year 5 when we turn 16 or stay on to year 7 to do A-levels when we turn 18.
No I don't know what 'muck up' day is sooooo! lol!
@jqlzp Awh similar then! Aye they are ok. its usually 9am - 3:40pm. I think schools are mostly all the same regardless.
Oh ok well we have that kind of day only it isn't labelled. Actually correction the teachers and principles label at as torture/nuisance/catch'em-if-you-can day if you get my drift!
@jqlzp Most are ok but you have ones that can get a bit annoying! Im sure you no yourself! Its like everything there are some people you can get on really well with and others not so much, teaching is the same! Generally I got well with most of them but I had my favourites and ones I didn't like so much!
We are actually very good only caused minimal disruption but the year below us let chickens, roosters, hamsters and other animals loose through the school. Lets say there was lots of screaming!
@ExplorerBrock Lol most of the students don't get along with some of the teachers and always pick on them when they're trying to teach, but then in year 11 and 12 everyone cooperates and gets along with all the teachers.
Lol did they get in trouble for letting the animals free in the school? Some people at our schools put animals on the roof lol. One time one of the animals died lol.
@ExplorerBrock Lol my brother's friend once put a pin in the teacher's chair. I feel sorry for the teachers lol. Why would you want to choose such a job.
Lots of students get suspended on muck up day, which is bad because its right before exams. I think some are cancelling it. Our school went to a park, but I missed out lol.
@jqlzp lol! Yea I don't think I could do teaching! It's one thing doing nursing you need a lot of patience for that but teaching would be a whole other ball game!
@ExplorerBrock Lol I got voted at my school for being the most likely to teach there. I'm sick of school. Teaching would be too hard. What career would you choose if you did not do nursing?
@jqlzp No they don't get angry as suchy yeah they just correct you and thats it!
No Gaelic unfortunately isn't recognised as a professional sport, we have county teams which would be the most professional in that they would be the best players but they don't get paid for playing. Our players have to work as well as train! So the rest of us just play for fun! Yea 12 years is a long time but its harder to keep at it now with the nursing and other commitments!
Yeah they should but then that would take the fun out of the game! People play because they love it and its a great destressor for some, but to introduce money would only complicate things and make it a money game as opposed to just a fun sport!
Yeah sure, ever heard of Croke Park? This stadium has the capacity to hold 82,000 people and during the All Ireland Final it is usually full to the throat! No prob not, too hard with work and going to Oz!
@jqlzp Have you not told her about you considering nursing?
Yeah that's very true there is a lot of paperwork and there is also a lot of responsibility, here its mostly the nurse who takes the rap for medication errors made by doctors etc. Here if the nurse gives the patient whatever it is they were prescribed by the drs and its wrong the blame falls with the nurses which isn't fair! But thats how it is!
Erm about teamwork! It is v.imp but it will come with time as you get more experience!
@jqlzp Because ultimately it was the nurse who give the actually medication to the patient even though the doctor was the one who prescribed it. But personally I think its just a way for doctors and everyone better than nurses to get of with it! Its not very fair but that's how it is, shouldn't be though! Like I said earlier we save the doctors ass a lot of the time!
@ExplorerBrock What do you do if you can't read the medication the doctor prescribed? Lol I'm really bad with teamwork. It's going to take lots of experience for me to learn. I'm really quiet, so I don't work very well with other people.
@jqlzp Get them to rewrite it! In the drug kardex's here doctors are supposed to write in block capitals, off course most of them dont but you get to know which drugs they mean and all that but if in doubt always get them to rewrite it.
Perhaps you should try some sort of drama exercises or something. Something that requires you to be more vocal whilst getting you more integrated in a team, team-bonding or something. Do you play any sports? That would be good for this kind of thing!
@jqlzp Simple bleep them! Or don't give the drug it is your career on the chopping block after all! If it is life treatening there should be a doctor around, if not there are doctors on call that you can ring up, etc.
Yes I play gaelic football! Its an irish sport, similiar to Aussie rules only not quite with the rugby aspect to it! Youtube it if you want to know more!
Have you ever had to correct one of the nurses or doctors?
Gaelic football sounds interesting. Is it hard to play? I don't know too much about rugby lol. My dad used to play I think, but I grew up in Melbourne so I mostly know more about AFL. I'm not much of a sports person.
@jqlzp Not me personally I am still only a student so they probably wouldn't pay much heed to what I had 2 say but I have witnessed other nurses having to and some even having to over see certain procedures that junior doctors in particular are carrying out!
Yea Gaelic is fun but thats just me! Sports was just a suggestion there are other things you could do!
I think i might try and find a hobby, but not sure what to do though. I used to play music at school, in bands and ensembles, but now I finiished and I think I might quit lol. How long have you played Gaelic for?
God u lot reali practice on each other??? Thats crazy! I am a nursing student in northern ireland, we get the pleasure of practicing on dummy arms! Whoop woop!!
i'm also a nursing student and... we have a dummy arm, but we have to practice on each other and on the exam, we use the dummy arm. It's... scary but yeah, it's a whole diffrent thing on each other than on the arm
@MissSpringkonijn No we do nothing on each other apart from brushing each others teeth and feeding them blindfolded! lol! I'll explain, the lecturers wanted us to be sensitive to how the individual feels when we have to carry out those tasks! Whilst it provided lots of laughs it also provided lots of sore gums and plenty of potential aspiration risks! lol! But no, no sticking needles in each other, that is saved solely for the patients! Also we don't have exams on our clinical skills! :D
Itis hard but u have to know how to study and take the test. I bought this guide from someone named ms.nursegirl18466 called a survival guide for beginning nursing students for like 5 dollars. its short but its relly helpful
My short experience with nursing school involved being sexually assaulted by by clinical instructor and being told continually by her that I did not deserve to be in the program. If you think I am lying check out police report number 09-377 at the royal oak, mi police department. I am out to destroy her. If she is convicted, I will follow her to every employer she has and show them the court order. It is a public record. She fucked with the wrong individual!! Power corrupts absolutely!!!
I believe you and agree with you. Those nursing instructors or charipersons should show good example to students how to be a good nurse. I don't know what's wrong with those women, she are so drunk to their power &authority. They are really bunch of bs, unprofessional and unethical educators. My attorney helping me deal with those bs. Go to Google search some law sue case, you will find a lots of medical school department have problems with students especially nursing, American women....
Welcome to my world, my clinical instructor harrassed and harrassed me all term and then flunked me in clinical in the surgical tech program at Macomb Community College even though I had favorable reviews from my preceptors and even though she herself never saw me perform at the clinical sight.
That's the problem with these subjective clinical courses. The criteria for passing is whatever they want it to be. I'm going through the same situation you are.
I know the hell you're going through but at least I wasn't sexually assaulted.
Were you at least able to earn your grade? I always naively told myself that as rotten as this ridiculous individual was, she would at least allow me to earn my grade but I found out differently when she called a meeting with me the 1st day of break and I discovered she fine tooth combed only my facility (selective enforcement) to get any errors I had made all term and then used that as the basis to flunk me.
I am sorry that happened to you, but you might want to watch out what you say in the public arena. You could face legal action for defamation. Just sayin.
The nursing school I am studying now is really crazy. They don't care about student's need or how effective of the teaching from instructors. They watch and print out all your emails to others from school computer system. And they trained some instrucotrs being their detectives to follow you then distorted all the truth to slander you to make student look bad and then make excuse to blame you and remark student as UNPROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT OR UNSAFE etc.....
the vice chairperson already told one of the white students that she DIDN'T LIKE ASIANS, BLACKS, .... ,you are Asian aren't you? welcome to my school and see how they treat you and then I will ask you " you did something wrong and are trying to get out of it by blaming other people?"
@RedMustangRN I don't mind that much about the job. I know its not a very fun job, because my mum was a nurse for several years. She left because they have so much work and paperwork to do and the job is really stressful. Working in a hospital with patients what I have always felt I was meant to do. I have no other reason to find another career. I don't wish to do anything else. You should come to Australia. People are nice over here. What kind of nurse are you?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@RedMustangRN Thats great to hear you are still in your 20s, it means there is still time for you before you become that 'bitter old hag' you previously referred to yourself as. You clearly don't have much self respect otherwise you wouldn't be in a job you so clearly hate! No I am not yet a nurse and I sincerely hope that my attitude doesn't change because if I become like you then god help me and the patients. Perhaps you should take a career break maybe get some counselling! Might help! :D
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@RedMustangRN How long have you been in nursing for? I have never had problems with abuse, harrassment and bullying. How would doing nursing have those problems. I already know a lot of people going to the same school I will be going to. People are nice where I live.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@RedMustangRN Sigh!! Sounds like another fed up down troddin nurse who ought to take earlier retirement and although those of us a little more enthusiastic about our jobs actually get one! And I think I do no about the hardships and disadvantages of nursing I see them everyday I go to work but the biggest hardship is working with colleagues who complain none stop, and the poor me's. Also I no nurses are treated like dirt, student nurses more so, if you read my earlier comment you'd see that! :)
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@RedMustangRN I do see how there may not be a very big nursing shortage, lol because there are so many people going into nursing school. I can't see how there would be bullying or harrasment. I know lots of people who are doing or going to do nursing, who are really nice. Maby where you're from is different. What happened to your account?
jqlzp 1 year ago
I herd nursing is a really bad job. Is that true?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Nope, its not a really bad job, in fact its a really great job! It provides nurses all over the world with so many great opportunities! But it is very hard, very tiring and in most places you get very little thanks for the work you do! However, most nurses aren't in the job for the glory and recognition (whilst that would be welcomed), most nurses are in the job solely for the satisfaction of helping someone feel better in times of pain, suffering and vulnerability! Don't be put off!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock I think I might apply for division 2 nursing school next year. I want to do nursing mostly because I like anatomy and working in a hospital, but I don't mind helping people too. Are you a nurse?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp I am a final year student nurse in Ireland! Yes liking anatomy and working in a hospital will definitely help, but there is a lot more to nursing than that. You must be able to care for people individually, holistically and non-judgementally. You also need to be serious about wanting to help people otherwise you could become very disenchanted with nursing. But if its something you are really considering, go for it the satisfaction beats any reward! Surgical nursing might suit you better!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock I've always been interested in surgery. I think I might choose that as my specialization later, but I may choose other ones instead. I'm not to sure yet. I think I'm going to get enough experience then choose. What made you want to become a nurse?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Yea I thought by your earlier post that surgery would be something that would suit you! :D
Yea you are right to get experience before you settle but the fantastic thing about nursing is that you never really have to settle, there is always changes being made to healthcare and it is evolving every day, whilst the area you end up in might see the same patients, etc your work and the way you approach it will always be different or vice versa!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Well I have always wanted to be a paramedic and even though I am doing nursing I hope to go on and do my training and become a paramedic! But the other career I was interested in was counselling/psychology! lol! You can get the drift of want line of work I want to be in, something in healthcare including mental health!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@jqlzp What made me want to become a nurse??
I am a people person. It makes me truly happy when someone says to me 'thanks that's better.' Knowing that I was part that leaves me feeling whole. I think the ability to help someone else is a gift that we all have and at some point in our lives all use. But the fact that there is a job out there that allowed me to do that on a regular basis just drew me in! Nursing has many hardships and disadvantages but personally these are small prices to pay!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock What kind of nurse are planning on becoming?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp I am currently in my final year on a palliative care placement. Its tough and its really sad/depressing but for me it epitomises the very reason I went into nursing. Apart from palliative care, I also like rehabilitation and/or acute medical settings. I have not yet had a placement in A&E or ICU (that is to come) but I am sure they will have their quirks too. By the way RedMustangRN is just pissed, they should also know better than to rely on google, EBP is v.imp in nursing as they know!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock What is palliative care? I never heard of A&E or ICU either. Do you have any problems at nursing school?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp We all make mistakes we are only human at the end of the day and things happen! But I have never made any life threatening or life alterating mistakes (touch wood).
Well what kind of things are you into apart from music? Is there any such thing as youth clubs or perhaps you could volunteer to work somewhere in your community. Maybe there is a volunteer scheme in the hospitals whereby you can go and help with things like bed-making etc. Would be a start!
12years now!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Does anyone get angry when you make a mistake or do they just correct you and move on?
I think they have groups at university, but I'm not going there yet. I do go to my church's youth group sometimes though. I don't know if they have volunteering here.
You must be really proffessional lol. 12 years is a lot.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Palliative care, care of the dying or terminally ill!
Sure there are always problems, no matter were or what you want to do! Nursing is a very tough career to try and pursue but if its what you really want go for it there are also many benefits. However be prepared to lose your social life, it usually takes a back seat in nursing!
What sort of problems do you hear about???
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock RedMustangRN says he got bullied a lot. I also read people can be mean in nursing on forums. I can't see how that's true, everyone I know is nice. I know nursing is really stressfull and takes a lot of work. Do you get along with everybody where you work?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Ah that explains the hate and misery he feels for nursing. Yes nursing can have that tendency, ward managers and charge nurses/lecturers can make those below them's life a misery, unfortunately thats a trait most professions see! Also nursing school can b very testing in that same way, but whilst they r everywhere the people who do this are in the minority. Bullying in the work force is very common but don't lose site of the reasons u started nursing. Yes mostly but its not always easy!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock What are the nurses like where you're from? Do you have patients yet?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp On every ward you have one person or a small group of people who can make life difficult but generally I find them all ok! Where I am from nurses are very much over worked and under paid and appreciated (UK/Ireland). Nurses are in a battle every day trying to fight for their jobs, equipment and NHS funding. So they are under a great deal of pressure to perform without the backup of the government but they do the best they can with the resources they have. I hope to go to Oz though SOON!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock I'm not sure if I will be doing nursing anymore. I might apply for a diploma of science or health science, because they will get me into a bachelor of biomedicine or health science which are pathways into graduate entry medicine. Nursing can get you into medicine to, but its not as easy and they use different subjects. I'm confused what to apply for now lol. Why do you hope to come to Oz? Do they have better healthcare over here?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Medicine? Yea lol that sounds more like you! Well either way make sure you choose what is right for you because it is after all the career you will spend your life in (if you choose not to change, etc). Your work can either make you very happy or very miserable!
Yes apparently so but I'm not sure! But nurses are way better paid (the salary nurses earn after 30 years service here is what nurses in Oz start of on) and the lifestyle/weather is way better (you lot have a summer & less rain)
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock I always wanted to be a doctor lol but my grades are really bad. That's why I can't choose between science and nursing. I don't want to get stuck with science because I couldn't get into medicine, but I'm okay with being stuck in the nursing career. It is also a lot shorter.I guess I can always go to nursing if I fail science. The weather here is wierd lol it changes randomly. It rains on sunny days. It depends which state you are in though. Which one are you planning to visit?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Yea I think it would suit you! This might sound cheesy but were there's a will there's a way! Don't give up on it! Sometimes taking the long way round might be 2 our benefit as opposed 2 our detriment, think, u will be more mature and understanding come then. Nursing wud also b good in that it would give u more of an insight into the hospital environment.
Wel, it rains here pretty much 365 days of the year and if we do have sun it is still cold!
Where u from then?
Brisbane hopefully!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock True. I don't know whether I would like being a doctor or a nurse more. Doctors have to spend so much time studying, while nurses don't have as much. They seem to have more time to spend with patients. I used to live in brisbane lol but then I moved to melbourne. The weather changes a lot here. It sometimes rains in summer and is sunny in winter, but its mostly really cold in winter and really warm in summer. Have you been to Australia before?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Well now there's your 1st mistake! lol! While nursing school might be shorter initially, studying and exams/courses/training is an ongoing part of nursing. The NMC or the ANMC in ur case states that nurses must keep up-to-date with the latest practices etc. It could be seen as negligent if nurses didnt do this! Besides we have to prove ourselves to the doctors, don't 4get we save their ass's a lot of the time!
Which do you prefer? I'd love 2 live anywer on the gold coast! No never! WBU?
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock I hear about that. My mum told me about it because she was a nurse for a bit. I seen it on scrubs to lol. How do you know if you are up to date with everything. It seems easy to miss out on something. Lol I heard nurses correct residents especially, becuase there new.
I like Melbourne better, Brisbane is nice in the winter but really hot in summer. Its good though you can go to the beach every day. I haven't been to the gold goast. Maby I'll go for schoolies week lol.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Yea its relentless that way. Erm there is always training programmes being run, here in ireland you have to do your moving and handling and ALS training amongst other things annually to keep up with the changes in healthcare!
Yea but you learn from your peers and colleagues so correcting each other isn't a bad thing, its just how some nurses do it! They can be condescending sometimes thats all!
God I dunno if I'll be able 2 stick the heat much tho not used to it! Whats schoolies week?
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Do you have to do any work at home? I'm not very good with working with a team lol. I guess I will have to get better social skills to be a nurse lol. The heat is okay in winter, its only the summer where it gets really warm. Schoolies week is a week of partying for school leavers. It's most popular on the Gold Coast, but it is also celebrated in other states. I'm not going though.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp How do you mean at home?
Do you mean placement? If you do then yes, we spend 50% of the time in university and the other 50% of the time working in hospitals, nursing homes,etc. I also have a part-time job outside of my university work so yes I work (ALOT)!
I'm 20! We can leave school at 16 or stay on until we r 18!
Schoolies week sounds like fun then! We only go out and get drunk (usually) the night we leave school after a mass and leaving ceremony at the school! lol!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock I think we have to do placements too. When did you leave?
Our schools have leaving ceremonies as well, but we call them formal and the party afterwords is called the after party.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp I left school 2 years ago there past in June!
We have formals but they are like a big party where everyone dresses up in formal gear, kind of like the american school balls only we call them formals and our after partys is after the formal @ like 4 in the morning!
We don't have a formal of afterparty for leaving school technically, just a leaving mass and party!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock We can leave when we finish year 10, but we have two stay in school two more years if we want to get our VCE. I just finished almost a month ago.
I think our formals our almost the same. Ours finished at midnight. Does your school have muck up day?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp That doesn't make much sense to me simply because I don't know what ages is year 10. We can leave school in year 5 when we turn 16 or stay on to year 7 to do A-levels when we turn 18.
No I don't know what 'muck up' day is sooooo! lol!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock I think it's around the ages of 15 and 16. I turned 17 though in year 10, because I stayed back a year. What are your schools like?
Muck day is for people who are leaving school. The year 12 spend the day pranking the school lol.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Awh similar then! Aye they are ok. its usually 9am - 3:40pm. I think schools are mostly all the same regardless.
Oh ok well we have that kind of day only it isn't labelled. Actually correction the teachers and principles label at as torture/nuisance/catch'em-if-you-can day if you get my drift!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock We start at 8:45am and finish at 3:00pm. What are the teachers like? Do they get along with all the students?
What did you did you do on your last day of school?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Most are ok but you have ones that can get a bit annoying! Im sure you no yourself! Its like everything there are some people you can get on really well with and others not so much, teaching is the same! Generally I got well with most of them but I had my favourites and ones I didn't like so much!
We are actually very good only caused minimal disruption but the year below us let chickens, roosters, hamsters and other animals loose through the school. Lets say there was lots of screaming!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Lol most of the students don't get along with some of the teachers and always pick on them when they're trying to teach, but then in year 11 and 12 everyone cooperates and gets along with all the teachers.
Lol did they get in trouble for letting the animals free in the school? Some people at our schools put animals on the roof lol. One time one of the animals died lol.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Yea well thats pretty much the same here! Gluing teachers to chairs etc. Yup same as!
Yea they got suspended! Tits! Oh gosh, our school prob would call in the NSPCA or something have the students fined!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Lol my brother's friend once put a pin in the teacher's chair. I feel sorry for the teachers lol. Why would you want to choose such a job.
Lots of students get suspended on muck up day, which is bad because its right before exams. I think some are cancelling it. Our school went to a park, but I missed out lol.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp lol! Yea I don't think I could do teaching! It's one thing doing nursing you need a lot of patience for that but teaching would be a whole other ball game!
Awh ok!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Lol I got voted at my school for being the most likely to teach there. I'm sick of school. Teaching would be too hard. What career would you choose if you did not do nursing?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp No they don't get angry as suchy yeah they just correct you and thats it!
No Gaelic unfortunately isn't recognised as a professional sport, we have county teams which would be the most professional in that they would be the best players but they don't get paid for playing. Our players have to work as well as train! So the rest of us just play for fun! Yea 12 years is a long time but its harder to keep at it now with the nursing and other commitments!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock That's good. It must be stressful lol.
They should make it a paid sport. Do people watch the games much and have teams? That sucks. Are you still going to keep playing or quit later?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp It is stressful but then thats nursing!
Yeah they should but then that would take the fun out of the game! People play because they love it and its a great destressor for some, but to introduce money would only complicate things and make it a money game as opposed to just a fun sport!
Yeah sure, ever heard of Croke Park? This stadium has the capacity to hold 82,000 people and during the All Ireland Final it is usually full to the throat! No prob not, too hard with work and going to Oz!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@jqlzp Isn't Brisbane near the gold coast??? Ok perhaps not, geography wasn't my strongest subject at school!
Do you mind me asking how old you are?
What does your mum say about nursing? Is she encouraging you or discouraging you?
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Yes they are close. I think the Gold Coast is further south though.
I'm 19 wbu?
I'm not sure what my mum would think about it. I think she left, because you have to work a lot to do nursing and they give heaps of paperwork.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Have you not told her about you considering nursing?
Yeah that's very true there is a lot of paperwork and there is also a lot of responsibility, here its mostly the nurse who takes the rap for medication errors made by doctors etc. Here if the nurse gives the patient whatever it is they were prescribed by the drs and its wrong the blame falls with the nurses which isn't fair! But thats how it is!
Erm about teamwork! It is v.imp but it will come with time as you get more experience!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock I told her I wanted to do medicine but that was a long time ago.
Why would the nurses be blamed when the doctors precribed the medication? I don't get it. What is v.imp?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Because ultimately it was the nurse who give the actually medication to the patient even though the doctor was the one who prescribed it. But personally I think its just a way for doctors and everyone better than nurses to get of with it! Its not very fair but that's how it is, shouldn't be though! Like I said earlier we save the doctors ass a lot of the time!
V.imp means very important!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock What do you do if you can't read the medication the doctor prescribed? Lol I'm really bad with teamwork. It's going to take lots of experience for me to learn. I'm really quiet, so I don't work very well with other people.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Get them to rewrite it! In the drug kardex's here doctors are supposed to write in block capitals, off course most of them dont but you get to know which drugs they mean and all that but if in doubt always get them to rewrite it.
Perhaps you should try some sort of drama exercises or something. Something that requires you to be more vocal whilst getting you more integrated in a team, team-bonding or something. Do you play any sports? That would be good for this kind of thing!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock What if the doctors are not there?
I did drama last year to get more social skills, but quite this year. Do you do any sports?
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Simple bleep them! Or don't give the drug it is your career on the chopping block after all! If it is life treatening there should be a doctor around, if not there are doctors on call that you can ring up, etc.
Yes I play gaelic football! Its an irish sport, similiar to Aussie rules only not quite with the rugby aspect to it! Youtube it if you want to know more!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock
Have you ever had to correct one of the nurses or doctors?
Gaelic football sounds interesting. Is it hard to play? I don't know too much about rugby lol. My dad used to play I think, but I grew up in Melbourne so I mostly know more about AFL. I'm not much of a sports person.
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Not me personally I am still only a student so they probably wouldn't pay much heed to what I had 2 say but I have witnessed other nurses having to and some even having to over see certain procedures that junior doctors in particular are carrying out!
Yea Gaelic is fun but thats just me! Sports was just a suggestion there are other things you could do!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock Have you ever made any mistakes?
I think i might try and find a hobby, but not sure what to do though. I used to play music at school, in bands and ensembles, but now I finiished and I think I might quit lol. How long have you played Gaelic for?
jqlzp 1 year ago
I heard "blood" and I almost puked
USMCxMETEO 1 year ago
lazy nurses
yasminelizabeth123 1 year ago
false.
dadhilman 1 year ago
God u lot reali practice on each other??? Thats crazy! I am a nursing student in northern ireland, we get the pleasure of practicing on dummy arms! Whoop woop!!
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
@ExplorerBrock
i'm also a nursing student and... we have a dummy arm, but we have to practice on each other and on the exam, we use the dummy arm. It's... scary but yeah, it's a whole diffrent thing on each other than on the arm
MissSpringkonijn 1 year ago
@MissSpringkonijn No we do nothing on each other apart from brushing each others teeth and feeding them blindfolded! lol! I'll explain, the lecturers wanted us to be sensitive to how the individual feels when we have to carry out those tasks! Whilst it provided lots of laughs it also provided lots of sore gums and plenty of potential aspiration risks! lol! But no, no sticking needles in each other, that is saved solely for the patients! Also we don't have exams on our clinical skills! :D
ExplorerBrock 1 year ago
Itis hard but u have to know how to study and take the test. I bought this guide from someone named ms.nursegirl18466 called a survival guide for beginning nursing students for like 5 dollars. its short but its relly helpful
lissilicous 1 year ago
rock it.
Clairifus 2 years ago
My short experience with nursing school involved being sexually assaulted by by clinical instructor and being told continually by her that I did not deserve to be in the program. If you think I am lying check out police report number 09-377 at the royal oak, mi police department. I am out to destroy her. If she is convicted, I will follow her to every employer she has and show them the court order. It is a public record. She fucked with the wrong individual!! Power corrupts absolutely!!!
ExtremeRecluse 3 years ago 18
I believe you and agree with you. Those nursing instructors or charipersons should show good example to students how to be a good nurse. I don't know what's wrong with those women, she are so drunk to their power &authority. They are really bunch of bs, unprofessional and unethical educators. My attorney helping me deal with those bs. Go to Google search some law sue case, you will find a lots of medical school department have problems with students especially nursing, American women....
hkking83 3 years ago 4
Welcome to my world, my clinical instructor harrassed and harrassed me all term and then flunked me in clinical in the surgical tech program at Macomb Community College even though I had favorable reviews from my preceptors and even though she herself never saw me perform at the clinical sight.
That's the problem with these subjective clinical courses. The criteria for passing is whatever they want it to be. I'm going through the same situation you are.
911insidejo8 2 years ago
I know the hell you're going through but at least I wasn't sexually assaulted.
Were you at least able to earn your grade? I always naively told myself that as rotten as this ridiculous individual was, she would at least allow me to earn my grade but I found out differently when she called a meeting with me the 1st day of break and I discovered she fine tooth combed only my facility (selective enforcement) to get any errors I had made all term and then used that as the basis to flunk me.
911insidejo8 2 years ago
@ExtremeRecluse who cares?
dadhilman 1 year ago
@ExtremeRecluse sow ur that kinda guy who likes to own noobs
masternl119988 1 year ago
@ExtremeRecluse
I am sorry that happened to you, but you might want to watch out what you say in the public arena. You could face legal action for defamation. Just sayin.
nicoliravioli 1 year ago 2
@ExtremeRecluse she sexually assaulted you?
Rsaint17 1 year ago
yeah she got blood! big freaking deal and screaming at the same time. You can't do that in real life.
Animatorbluesky 3 years ago 2
The nursing school I am studying now is really crazy. They don't care about student's need or how effective of the teaching from instructors. They watch and print out all your emails to others from school computer system. And they trained some instrucotrs being their detectives to follow you then distorted all the truth to slander you to make student look bad and then make excuse to blame you and remark student as UNPROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT OR UNSAFE etc.....
hkking83 3 years ago 5
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Sounds like your school should be shut down.
That, or you did something wrong and are trying to get out of it by blaming other people.
insaintraining 3 years ago
the vice chairperson already told one of the white students that she DIDN'T LIKE ASIANS, BLACKS, .... ,you are Asian aren't you? welcome to my school and see how they treat you and then I will ask you " you did something wrong and are trying to get out of it by blaming other people?"
hkking83 2 years ago 4
is nursing school hard? like the test and stuff
patriasadeyes 4 years ago
all you need is motivation
pnoyguitar 3 years ago
and brain power
canadianboy40 3 years ago 8
Yes. But it is possible to pass if your motivated
DemolishedHalo 3 years ago
nope
cwj06001 3 years ago
high five
nadav00 4 years ago
She has no idea what she is doing!!!!!
rachelzlocker 4 years ago 2
@rachelzlocker yep i agree!
TiffanyStarFlower 1 year ago
@rachelzlocker Hence the title SCHOOL?
jcsii 1 year ago