New Order live, 1983, 'Age Of Consent'

[TheFederalDrugs]

Such a shame that Hook and Sumner have such irrevocable differences. What amazing music they made....

[TheLUCKYFEATHER]

imagine with ian's voice :)

[MegaCrasher3000]

Yes! New Order fucking kills it. End of story.

[TomG6000]

great jam!

[88adre]

New Order presents :THE MORRIS MACHINE

[seakitt]

I LOVE early New Order!!! hooks me same way as when I first listened to in 1984, whilst high schoolin in small-town Iowa..

[lisa1gas]

<3 Bernard! New Order's music is timeless.....



[dogglewop]

hooky is goin mental on the bass

[ChelseaElizabeth7]

Beautiful song! i love new order

[fanofprotopic]

did they use tapes when they played? I notice I still hear a guitar even when the singer stops playing guitar to sing.....

[curtaineater]

@fanofprotopic i didnt notice it.

[thekanglives]

Morris is more accurate than a drum computer in a human sense :)

[beedox5]

this live version is AMAZING

[HartleySan]

That drummer is insane!

[BluesYourAss]

......I want to hear Ian's smooth baritone to this :(

[amyrawraw]

Love this song!!

[youngmoneygoon100]

awesome the cooliest thing ive ever saw in my life ... itotally love new order

[jizydorczak]

The 80's were a big deal for me musically speaking. This stuff seems timeless and I get a rush from it even today. Very unique stuff and yes, Stephen Morris is a human drum machine........LIKE TOTALLY!

[dieselboy808]

Just listening to this made you feel cool back then.

[ybot1983]

majestic

[connaught2008]

peter hook always has the cathiest basslines!

[topout]

tossers clueless

[mihir14]

Until I heard Age of Consent, I've never heard a song where the bass carries the majority of the tune and rhythm.

[Polyfusia]

@mihir14 It doesn't,

[astralislux]

@mihir14 The bass ALWAYS carries the rhythm. Notice the next time that you tap to a song -- you're tapping the bass line.

[tibsnow]

@astralislux I dont tap the bass line. I mean sometimes i do. But i tap along to guitar and keyboards more.

[100milnic]

@astralislux hooky's bass had chorus effect pedal on pretty much all the time, it acts a doubling effect, & gives them their signature sound, was relatively new stompbox pedal back then, & agree is amazing how barny only played guitar in intervals, rythm & or lead, mind you is always awesome when he cranks his gibson...

[astralislux]

@100milnic That's awesome to know. Thanks! Could you clarify what the new stompbox pedal was? Or are you saying that the chorus feature for a stompbox pedal was new at the time?

[mihir14]

@astralislux SO TRUE!!!

[rocanlover2406]

@mihir14 that happens in almost any new order song, also in joy division. Peter Hook is for me the best bass player ever.

[dylane]

@mihir14 havent you listened to Joy division? the bass carries almost all the songs. most of the same members in this band too

[skippy180864]

his timing is impeccable, and effortless

[19karl16]

god peter hook has got some moves :):P:) haha

[MartiansMr]

amazing bass

[ReallyRealOfficial]

"rock the shit out those drums dale! (stephen)"

[ABTE67]

the best quality rock

[MarkBade]

awesome///ian curtis should have stuck around

[AphroMagic]

@MarkBade a bit insensitive, but I completely agree.

[ButterflyRoseX]

Bernie is SO adorable here, I just wanna eat him up ! :)

[Transmission1100]

Yep Stephen is a superb drummer,thank god he read that advert in a shop in Macc advertising for a drummer,love New Order,pity all has gone although you never know in my opinion Hooky feels he has been left out/down.Get Ready was an amazing album,Waiting For The Sirens Call was good but Jet Steam Lover a track on there? i sense Hooky thought this is shit

[Floppyblondehair]

Just for the record . I saw this live TV broadcast and it was UK CH 4 music prog. called TUBE and not Switch

[The10560]

It was 'Switch'. I remember it too, still have it video. Very similar to the Tube, but N.O. only played the Tube once, two years after this, and also Barney played on The Tube in the Factory Allstars when they broadcast from the Hacienda in 84. Switch was a very different studio to the Tube as you can see.

[tlinscott1]

Peter Hook is the Master

[volcomgirl1213]

is this one of the few songs

where they sound like joy division?

[hrvstruvsrrow]

@volcomgirl1213 i honestly thought this was joy division at first

[volcomgirl1213]

@hrvstruvsrrow well technically they are but i meant they sound like their old selves cuz u know how new order went to the new wave genre and all

[hrvstruvsrrow]

@volcomgirl1213 whoa. i read your reply and was like "...huh?" and i just realized that they used to be joy division (without ian of course). Holy crap, I'm late to the party. Excuse my ignorance, please :-P

[volcomgirl1213]

@hrvstruvsrrow hahaha ur excused

[canuck21]

@volcomgirl1213 I don't think this sounds like Joy Division at all, its tempo is too peppy. Just because it's not synth driven doesn't suddenly make this Joy Division-like. In fact, it sounds like a "typical" New Order alternative rock song. If you want songs that sound like Joy Division, just listen to the album Movement. Add Ian's vocal and it's Joy Division.

[volcomgirl1213]

@canuck21 i didnt mean it as the vocals or the tempo, i ment the melody. most of new order's stuff is basically new wave, like blue monday or true faith. but this song is somewhat sounding of joy division, just a little bit happier

[canuck21]

@volcomgirl1213 I was strictly talking about the melody and the sound in general and it is a little too peppy for Joy Division. Listen to "Mesh" and "Cries and Whispers", those sound more like Joy Division IMO.

[volcomgirl1213]

@canuck21 well yea, but compared, to other songs, its almost there, not completely tho.

[hirodivision]

やっぱりこれが好き！

not only the performance but also how to take movie of is the best.

[syderwarp]

This vocal would be perfect if the stoopid sound guy would do his job!! I love this track but vocal is off unlike the BBC Peel sessions. =P

[ABTE67]

a not me this mortal coil copy

[number3assassin]

And Not Me is a cover of a Colin Newman (ex Wire) song...

[paythefine]

Anyone knows what kind of bass that is?

[Gary65G]

Eccleshall... Hand made by Chris Eccleshall.... Start saving.

[goonchistaw]

@paythefine yamaha bb 1500

[elabue340]

peter hook best bass ever 4sureeee i like flea too but is hard to compare them

[alastairjr40]

age of what?

[bmaher55]

Does anyone else think that Stephen Morris is one of the greatest drummers of all time? I'm in awe every time I watch him play.

[yank011545]

Not really, technically it is rather simple...musically the beat was different for it;s time but that was Ian's doing not Stephen's.

[ady10001]

FFS. Yanks, watch Nirvana, leave the good stuff for those who actually know about music.

[canuck21]

@yank011545 Ian Curtis was a genius but he did not do everything. Give the other guys some credit for crying out loud. Many of Joy Division's songs were created with a drum beat as a starting point and that came from Morris, not Ian. Ian would spot riffs here and there but the riffs still came from the other guys. Also, it was Bernard Sumner who did most of the arrangements and this is as per Deborah Curtis.

[AppleOfGlasgow]

I'm a drummer and I respect him but technically hes not that great...however timing wise their is few better, he could drum to the best drum machines for what seems like hours.

Also his simple beats are great...and most great things in music are simple.

[steve273]

thats a great comment appleofglasgow-im no drummer but i love stephen morris's style and work-rate and timing-i totally believe everything u said and agree about most great music is simple too....better to be a mediocre drummer-like stephen and playing great music like joy divisions-than a virtuoso drummer playing shit music and i always say-most virtuoso musicians waste their lives and talents playing crap music that no one ever listens to-stephen's primal drum rythms were simply perfect

[urbanhag]

if you like that drumming style alot you should check out So Here We Are by Bloc Party

[MikroBadass]

@urbanhag

thanks for the ref.

[kidpink]

@bmaher55 i completely agree... i hardly ever hear it from others though....

[avenueb]

@bmaher55 agreed

[booboocubs]

@bmaher55 Dude I got my playing style from him. I get goosebumps everytime i see him play. Most definitly go gay for him.

[JonyFiveZAlive]

@bmaher55

He is #%$^&^* amazing. He's almost too good for the rest of the band

[cometetodalacarne]

@bmaher55 one of the best in pop/rock, thats for shure

[The48Bishop]

@bmaher55 I have the hugest mancrush on him. I always ask hairdressers to give the Morris fade.... (they usually dont)

[mmm9mmm9]

omg , 1985

[torontoboy45]

and what, exactly, does new order offer today's youth?

shitloads, actually.

I'm still stunned that my kids rate them as 'cool' -high praise, indeed.

great post.

[fleaby]

You must have great kids.

[drysocketman]

I pwe New Order my life. Life is better thanks to New Order.

[EstherRamirrez]

100 out of 10.. one of best bands ever... xxx

[nuMbERsRuNN3R]

Won't you please let me go These words lie inside they hurt me so And I'm not the kind that likes to tell you Just what I want to do I'm not the kind that needs to tell you Just what you want me to I saw you this morning I thought that you might like to know I received your message in full a few days ago I understood every word that it said And now that I've actually heard it You're going to regret

[nuMbERsRuNN3R]

And I'm not the kind that likes to tell you Just what you want me to You're not the kind that needs to tell me About the birds and the bees Do you find this happens all the time Crucial point one day becomes a crime And I'm not the kind that likes to tell you Just what I want to do I'm not the kind that needs to tell you I've lost you (x5) I've lost you (x5)

[kkaren50]

This one really has Joy Division flavor.

[KamiKadzeVojta]

the best song of New Order.... love it lovet it lovet it

[mnhynes]

Human Drum Machine

[syderwarp]

I luv living because of New Order !!!!!!!!!!!!

[eric02125]

very influencial band..New Order is GOD like

[CALIGULA521984]

ok then

[Mancheguache]

I like the little coloured dots on the Gillian's keys telling her what to press! Best band of the contemporary era. I remember seeing them in Macclesfield in 1984 and I swear she was staring at me half the night....sigh.

[hotvestry]

reallly?? where in macclesfield! i live there!! that must of been great :)

[gardenmaster1969]

fuck.

[cythera4]

This song fucking eats your heart. Bernie is a cute little fairy boy, so ethereal. I want him badly.

[CALIGULA521984]

i don't want to eat my heart and what

[justneil]

Incrediblé

[dane4free]

in the beginning, is that a bass?

[MetalDeathStrike]

yeah thats a bass in the beginning of the song :)

[MetalDeathStrike]

better compared to arcade fires shit covers of joy division and new order >.>

[finn141]

Harry up Harry,

ummm shut the fuck up yuu ignorant cunt

[HarryUpHarry]

I for one was glad to see the back of Curtiss holding the band back

[777system777]

haha your a funny fkr ;)

[HarryUpHarry]

Far better than Jon Division ever did

[tuxedosponge]

Ian Curtis wrote some of New Order's best songs. Ceremony was a Joy Division song before it was a New Order song.

[expeditopaz]

The only songs written by Ian that New Order recorded were Ceremony and In a Lonely Place.

[geoffcos]

Stephen Morris' drumming is absolutely nuts on this!!

[dank2791]

so fucking addictive

[kyekye217]

awesome song...new order rules!

[HarryUpHarry]

God! It's 23 years old

[3flipd0m]

and still very good

[kyekye217]

well...older than 23, i was born in 1985 and i'm 23 lol

[HarryUpHarry]

Ah, I wrote that, er, three years ago

God! It's 26 years old - ;-)

[80smoviesguy]

it says "1 month ago"

[ml2001]

the baseline keeps pumping to the audiences ears.... masterpiece.

[blotchy67]

Gillian Gilbert. . .hot

[BobDylan1201]

Damn! Hooky's tearin' it up!!!

[HarryUpHarry]

Crystal meth man

[SilveryScream]

when i listen to this on my stereo it sounds better.

[proffesornutbutter]

it does tend too

[jennyhaze]

Arcade Fire do a sweet cover of this, just wanted to hear the original.

[ciarankeavney]

he cant sing live but I LOVE NEW ORDER

[HenryFussy]

I love most of their songs, but the singer is not very distinctive (and I know that will make the band's fans angry, but he is not)

[postrealitysyndrome]

not sure what you mean by "distinctive." Bernard's voice, if nothing else, is unmistakably his, unpretentious, and not resembling anyone else who came before. If that's not distinctive, what is?

[expatgas]

Nailed it postrealitysyndrome. Saw them live in about 1984 and it was truly awesome. Bernard's voice is part of the mix that is New Order - and it rocks

[lostman28]

wow, this is really artsy at around 4 minutes. How everything slightly falls apart from each other. Its just like the pace of the song is so tiring, they can't keep it up. And then BAM, everybody drops back in for the ending. Most definitely one of the better New Order live videos. And they did it on a pop show? hah

[5speed735i]

lostman, I would venture to guess that the reason things got Artsy" at 4 min was because of the bad mix of the audio. Bernard's guitar was way too quiet, as were the keyboards, so Peter problably got tired of hearing his repetative bass line so loud, and decided to play around. Just a guess, mind you...

[fedecavak]

genius

[scbcambcobbler]

My attempts to drum this song leave me in a panting heap on the floor after about 30 seconds. Human metronome anyone?

[UnrealoIndustries]

I wonder what Ian would have thought of New Order? I mean, while their music is good, a lot of it feels like a really danced-up copy of Joy Division. The lyrics try to be deep and emotional like JD, especially in earlier stuff, but really fall short.

[canuck21]

The music feels like a danced-up *copy* of Joy Division?! May I remind you that the music of Joy Division were composed by the same individuals that do the music for New Order so how can you use the word "copy"? The music is more upbeat because it goes with the lyrics which at the beginning they were trying to be like Joy Division, but when New Order found they own sound, the lyrics also changed and became more personal to them and especially to Bernard Sumner. They too have emotions you know.

[fordgt90]

It's better that than the pop shit they started churning out later in their career. I love Movement and any JD type songs by them, but the "different style" crap is awful!.

[hellbornelfchild]

awesome footage. thanx alot.

[Martinezzz]

definitely one of the better live new order videos no youtube... they look AND sound great

[motorholer]

i want a studio version..can somebody post? thx

[ahoarsedummy]

add me on msn.ill send u the song.

[secondttube]

Wankers!!! The lot of you!!! New Order is one of those bands that has been pivotal in influencing most of the "artists" that you probably like today. Don't be ignorant, get your self educated!!

[operez6]

New Order is an end in itself.

[bleedingvenom]

Yes indeed, Nirvana has admitted to being influenced by Joy Division and you can really hear in some of their stuff sounds derived from "Never tear us apart"

[hoodinijames]

That's INXS. You mean "Love will tear us apart".

[Birne250]

hoodinjames thats not inxs at all omfg " Love will tear us apart " is a song written by Joy Division and was covered by thousands of bands like The Cure (good cover) or Fallout Boy (crap cover)

[hoodinijames]

read what the person wrote dude.

[iceybleu]

^O^

[lilazinboi194]

lol dont eat the mic!

[simonahora]

haaa, he was using the same style Ian used when he sang.

[asbigasbig]

hmmm, reminds me of Tim Burgess from The Charlatans or is that the wrong way round!

[flyngsnow]

yeah you got it a bit backwards, lol.

the charlatans great too though.

[latinsugardoll]

que rola tan perrona y esa epoca estuvo llena de grupos chingones y canciones linpias de amor saludos mexicali mexico y al pancho galindo ej puebla

[andyjdking]

this version sounds a bit flat

[julz415]

it does i agree still the best tho :)

[transfobby]

ah, I miss the passion and the romanticism of the 80's musicians

[astralislux]

I remember during the 80s how everyone complained about 80s music (such as this!). I adore NO. Maybe it was the introduction of the synth and the trance melodies and rhythms that made people question its legitimacy as real music. The testament to real music is: do I like it?

[transfobby]

who asked to...?

[riikkamustakallio]

true!!

[lesassassins]

barney is my favourite guitar player.

[AGoldenHymn]

maannn peter hook can wail on that bass.

[decky04123]

this songs freaking sweet :)

[1jbong]

one of the best

[annams]

i like the stickers on gillain's keyboard

[scotiagroup]

Like it or not NO's work has been used on football programme intros in the UK and for Ford advertisements here in Australia.Still a top band however don't think they'll be getting back together.Catch the Joy Division movie "control"for a bit of a fix.

[bbcolin123]

they sold out with the album low life releasing two singles off it

[rattlecake]

shut your mouth.

[bbcolin123]

why rattlecake.. did they not, or did they not release subculture/dub-vulture off the album low-life when repeatedly they made statements saying that they would never rip off the fan base by releasing singles off the album. don't get me wrong mate i am one off the biggest joy division/new order fans going, they have never been the same since gillian gilbert left to look after her and stephen morris's daughter. don't tell me to shut my mouth when the facts stare you in the face, cheers

[brcampbe]

The Perfect Kiss single was released moreso as a single I think for club DJs and promos. I have the 12" and the 7". If I recall, both were free promos. And, Low Life is definately some of their best and original work.

[joliecide]

I don't think they broke up... they're probably on hiatus again what with Hooky off an all

[bryantm3]

can't believe i heard this on a cingular advert and in the gap. they screw up the best music, don't they?

[ninjajoe123]

That's strange, I seem to remember them talking on several interviews about how they had not / would not sell out, and criticizing U2 and bono for doing just that. I've been a huge NO fan since the 80's, and I'm pretty sure I've never heard any song of theirs on an advertisement. That really sucks, I guess everyone has a price.

[adz1962]

In 1988, a specially re-recorded 30 second seg of "Blue Monday" was used in a US SunKist orange juice advertisement. In 2005, "Blue Monday" was again used in a UK Mars bar commercial.

[dogmavskarma]

they just used this in a cingular/at&t ad?

[ETBA67]

the best of the history of the rock and roll

[TenneyMead]

Totally under-rated band. As good as the cure if not better.

Guss

[momomimimomo]

Better!

[momomimimomo]

Than any other band!

[divisionbell90]

I prefer joy division, but they're almost the same band i guess.

[papperwait]

True. Good tunes is good tunes.

[astralislux]

Even off-pitch and off-time (lead singer, not the band).