Ok so wat I hav learn dat diz sall island has 90% British descent,ok but wat bout da Jewz, Italians,Greeks, Portuguese,Malt,dnt sum ov da people also share sum of that Blood beside British blood,oh greetings from-Mexico
it's a problem with this anthem...it ain't complete...but the singer's sweet voice made me melt...however, it's just the first part...despite this national song sounded harmonic & emotive...in other terms...the only fail is the length...because Gibraltar's Rock is awesome too...i just love Gibraltar...& due to this detail...all my good wishes...& of course, my friendly cheers...from Czech Republic
So your profile states that you are from Ireland (I presume you mean the Republic, not the North). Now suppose the United Kingdom decided it didn't like you, and started a naval blockade, or attempted to cut you off. Would you not consider that in the least bit aggressive and threatening?
If Spain closed the Hispano-Gibraltarian border indefinitely, That would be a similarly threatening move, would it not?
If Spain closed its border, as it would have a right to, then although it could hardly fail to sour relations, it would not be aggressive in itself. However, it would hardly be progressive either, and could reasonably be expected to be the prelude to something else.
@Myles0Harcourt spain can close the border because the treaty of utretch (who has been violated by britain) says clearly that the border should be always closed. But no close the border, spain will impose a little toll so every british who wants to come to spain or go back to the colony has to pay 5 euro. Like that at least you compensate your illegal banking, money laundering, water polluting, traffiquing, etc.
A matter for Spain and Gibraltar to discuss. As I understand it, a lot of Spanish Citizens cross the border to buy items at much cheaper prices than in Spain, to a lot of Spaniards might be inconvenienced as well.
@Myles0Harcourt that is a matter for Spain to think about, not for you to "discuss" anything. Only british and turists pay, we are not imposing payments on ourselves. If the colony continues to pollute the sea maybe some ships can go to sink that illegal refinieries aswell. There is a lot to do before retaking the colony.
You really propose some sort of military assault on Gibraltar? Under the Treaty of Utrecht our sovereignty is recognised, and if you should try to remove that sovereignty from us against the will of the Gibraltarians, we will stop you. We stopped the Argentines 14,000 miles away, we will stop Spain a few hundred miles away.
@Myles0Harcourt however the waters are being illegally occupied, and the istmus as well. We shall send tanks and ships to stop that violations of the treaty. Every part of the treaty has to be respected, for example the one that says that gibraltar should not have any legal jurisdiction (but it has a constitution). Respect the treaty, we respect your rock. Not respect? we invade your rock soon
@Myles0Harcourt oh Argentines how many soldiers could send to Malvinas? 1000 maybe? ok, how many soldiers can Spain send to Gibraltar? 400000?? how many can you send?? oh use nukes for that rock? I guess you will not be so stupid
Of course we would not use nukes on our own people (even though we have them). In 1982 the Argentines sent tens of thousands of troops to the Falklands in a few days and we still won. Spain would certainly be a challenge greater than Argentina but we have about 200,000 more soldiers in our army than you do as well as the Royal Gibraltar regiment which could no doubt hold you off long enough for reinforcements to arrive.
@Myles0Harcourt Royal Gibraltar regiment? does that have tanks, planes? we do, we can take the colony in 5 minutes and then fill it up with tanks, defenses, troops, etc, so you can never take it back. Malvinas is not connected to Argentina thats why they could not send tanks, planes or lots of troops, but we can, and you dont. Also we can prepare the invasion with a lot of care and still attack by surprise, but you cant know when to prepare the defense. We have all the advantage.
@kaikovich First Argentina could send troops- our forces were roughly equal in 1982. Second the Falklands were in range of their planes, whereas we could only send 40 or so on carriers, and they had lots of planes in Stanley and Pebble Island.
On Gibraltar, don't forget you have tried and failed to take it before, and no doubt the RGR could hold you up for the few hours needed to fly out reinforcements. And the reinforcements WOULD have tanks and planes, and our army is bigger than yours.
@Myles0Harcourt RGR has 200 troops. Their daily activities can be easily studied before attack. They are tiny, they are exposed, they dont have any support, how can they resist vs an entire army? They surrender in no more than 10 minutes.
You only have 30 transport planes, with a capacity of 100 soldiers and 1 tank each. Only 3000 soldiers and 30 tanks vs 150,000 soldiers and 700 tanks. The combat planes you have are not in range and you only have 1 old aircraft carrier. You dont have a chance
@kaikovich Remember that in Gibraltar they know their area well and what they have to defend. Remember also that the RN regularly has forces there as does the RAF. Also, what happens when we send over a task force like before? If you want to catch us without carriers you'd better be fast, because we build two supercarriers right now with the JSFs to fly from them. I would say we would have a pretty close match. Either way, it's not going to happen so why worry about it?
Spics. You are next to the southern italians the lowest of Europe. You lost Gib fair and square. Canada doesn't squeal about St. Pierre/Miquelon, the yanks don't really notice Bermuda, and the Moroccans aren't as hot and bothered about Ceuta and Melilla as people think.
You just can't t over the fact you lost (and deserved to) and Gibraltarians despise you, lowlife puking whiners
BTW, how do you in spain feel about your Moroccan possessions Awful quiet, ain't ya? hypocrite cowards.
@Scriptorsilentum yes we lost it to the dutch and english (english cant win alone, they need scots, dutch or irish slaves by their side), but we can recover it anytime now. Tell morocco to leave Sahara, become a democracy who respects christians and we will talk with morocco. The difference is that we can crush the whole morocco in 15 minutes, but you cant come to spain and win, so fuck off.
@kaikovich you mean as Tareq Ibn Ziyad did ? lolll you won't never crush the Amazighs except if they did it once again, and Gibraltar won't never return to you cowards. (probably in dreams)
@kaikovich actually spain was nailed by the moors and it took them ages to get freedom and in the new world the english battered the spanish and liberated colonies. adding to this because spain was now weak they made freinds with napoleon who when he started losing invaded spain and made his bro king. WE ie the ENGLISH helped so stuff u so fuck u dick head !!!
gibralter/ EVEN FALKLANDS HAS 98% BRITISH DESCENDENTS SO IT COMES AS NO/0 SUPRISE THEN THAT GIBRALTER A SMALL AREA ABOUT THE SIZE OF A ''TINY'' CITY/LARGE SIZE TOWN WITH NO REAL SIGNIFIGANCE DOESNT WANT TO BE WITH SPAIN DOES IT.
IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME LOOK IT UP/WIKI IT/BETTER YET GO THERE;.................................''NEARLY EVERONES BRITISH''
SO WHY WOULD A PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO ANCESTERY TO THE LAND WANT TO BE APART OF IT.......DAH!!,......DUM DUMS!!
@Phobososs thats right, that is why they should return to their country, london, and leave the land they are colonizing illegaly. If they dont do it peacefully, they will be forced to.
I loved Gib when I went there- what a magical feeling walking across that runway back in to the arms of Mother Britainnia- Gibraltar you are amazing- never change, never alter, never falter in your desires- we back in England support you.
Rustikk86, I think you are the ashole here who can't get over the fact that your people Lost Gibraltar. Go screw yourself and your spanish crown. i do speak spanish, and although it is my native language, what your people did was wrong, and everybody knows it, an apology was never even given.thats why i am resentful of your contry....shame on you!
I am Spanish and I love Gibraltar, I don't care about colonies, demands or politics but people and Gibraltarean people live in peace and with their own ideas and principles, things that we all should respect.
@macphersonleedsunite yup french guiana is still in france , but its not a colony like gibraltar , guyana, as martinique, is one of the metropolitan regions of france even if its quite far , and here we are proud to be french (blacks, whites , and all other colors) , i say that because i am white but not racist , i only said that because i was born in european france from european france parents xD
2.- Te has leido ya la constitucion, veo que replicas sin haberte leido la constitucion y los estatutos que rigen la organizacion del estado
3.- Me alegro que lo sea, tambien "es" la mia
4.- Interesantes viajes pero has estado en España xD
5.- Espero que lo apruebes, tu me odiaras a mi porque te estoy dejando mal pero cuando termines el Bachiller estoy seguro de que habras madurado lo suficiente para pensar y deducir por ti mismo cosas que aun no eres capaz por falta experiencia
quien compuso esta mierda? la reina de inglaterra cuando estaba borracha? 1spyroman donde mas fachas hay por m2 es en euskadi 100mil terroristas que pegan tiros en la nuca asesinan niños mujeres,amenazan a la gente y a las empresas , esos si son fachas todos esos nazionalistas fachas del presente sostenidos con gente como tu con el cerebro lavado.y si tan vasco eres y tan poco español por que no te vas a tomar por el culo y dejas los asuntos españoles?
¡Cállate, estoy escribiendo esto en español para entender que usted nunca conseguirá Gibraltar hacia atrás, así que no hay sentido ni siquiera intentar. es posible que me insultan por ser británico, pero, al menos Gran Bretaña no era no fascistas, así que vete a la mierda
En 1950, el Gobierno británico inició en Gibraltar un proceso de repoblación que, supuestamente, ayudaría a legitimar la supervivencia de la colonia. La acción una burla absoluta del Derecho Internacional fue contestada incluso en Gran Bretaña.
John Bright afirmaba que «el Peñón de Gibraltar fue tomado y retenido por Inglaterra cuando no estábamos en guerra con España y su apropiación fue contraria a todas las leyes de la moral y del honor».
valiente pandilla de fascistas . Y Ceauta y Melilla Marroquies. Catalunya de los catalanes. Salios de Euskadi.muertos de hambre que bastante pan comeis de nosotros.
CATALUÑA libre jajajajajaja que tienes 16 años atontao que sabes una mierda sobre este mundo que no interesa que sea asi, ellos tambien tienen pueblos asi o es que no sabes nada de macropolitica. En fin termina la ESO
3- el reino unido los respeta i les da la categoria de "países" ( los países constituyentes que forman el reino unido) ,i en cuanto a sus colonias, son casi países independientes pero siempre dentro del reino unido, el reino unido es un pais decente no como ejjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjpaña i pueden mantener la identidad de cada pais constituyente o colonia i la britànica a la vez
3.- Se nota que aun no te has mirado la constitucion, aunque se supone que se empieza a mirar los articulos en 3º ESO, seguramente eso se deba al adoctrinamiento.
Suerte con la ESO, dudo seriamente que estes en el bachiller sin conocer eso
Me encanta como los rabuos como luispihormiguero todavia se cree que gibraltar es parte del pais tercer mundista de ESPAÑA.....hay gente para todo. Gracias a dios aki no nos hace falta una siesta de 3 horas para descansar de 3 horas de trabajo de la mañana......que flojos
Belfast actually, North Down. Thank god Im safe in Gibraltar, the IRA were shot down in the first week of moving there, I doubt we shall see anymore of those cowards again. And gibraltar is onn the south coast of spain, Do you even know where Armagh is?
I am not British or Spanish and I know that Gibraltar has not been Spanish in over 3 centuries. Historically your argument doesn't stand because your land was once Moroccan. Espana=Marrueco? I don't think so.
Let Spain do the same with Ceuta and Melilla, by handing them over to Morocco, just as they did with Ifni in 1969 (without asking the inhabitants what they wanted)
British expats in Gibraltar are an embarrassment (especially drunken Scots who drink too much cheap whisky)
BTW, why not have a recording of the whole anthem?
CFC67 should be exposed for the nasty Irish Republican bigoted twat that he or she or is. The fact is that 1000 to 1 people in Gibraltar want to remain British he or she doesn't regonise that they are an undemocratic, out of touch scum bags. At the end of the day the SAS got 3 of your lot in Gibraltar! KEEP ULSTER BRITISH KEEP GIBRALTAR BRITISH!
Well Ulster hasnt been under control from Dublin ever, and there is no sign of it ever being ruled by Dublin with a Unionist majority in Stormont.!!! Hahahaha.
free gibrater ???your an arsehole im from Gibraltar and we are british no 2 ways about as for the freedom thing would we be free in the hands of spain get a life you sad ginger scotman! britian has every right for as lo9ng as the people wish it!!!! free england from scotlands bad politicans!
hahaha, so now the spanish know how we (dominicans, from dominican republic) feel about when they invaded our homeland. Spain needs to shut the fuckup and accept the fact that Gibraltar does not belongs to them. Spain is the Shithole of Europe. I guess all things you stole from the Americas couldn't help you in your greed. fuck spain and i hope your pathetic kingdom falls to the Arabs. And Yes, We in Latin America do HATE SPAIN! God Save the Queen! (not the spanish one)
@taino4281 Shithole really? Thats why thousands of Dominicans and other Latinos come to Spain to live and work? You're live in US and call yourself "Latin American"? You are sucking up to Anglo-Saxons who you aren't and will never be. Dominicans talk Spanish and have Spanish culture, so accept that and have some respect for your Madre Patria, asshole!
Este hino devia ser em Língua Portuguesa, a mais superior de todas, e não em inglês, uma vez que foram os portugueses quem de fato colonizaram tal lugar, influenciando-o diretamente!
Fuck that bitch Tony Blair he a racist faggot boy fucking bitch I would go a couple rounds if he could even handle one and I'd bust his fucking teeth out you asshole Tony Blair is a FAGGOT BITCH!!! That CUNT is going to get the FUCKING SHIT beat out of him he is going to need those shit body guards cause I'd knock him FUCKING out you trick. I FUCKING HATE Tony Blair you all love him and think he's a FUCKING SAINT. He's in with George Bush and the Americans. Keep your FUCKING TRAITOR TONY BLAIR!!
Gibraltar no es una nacion por tanto no puede tener un himno nacional. Deberiais aceptar vuestra historia y vuestra lamentable situación actual y dejaos de ridiculas fantasias nacionalistas
Al contrario hidalgocastellano. It is you who should wake up from your Francoist ideals.
The truth is that if you can make any sense out your own puerile argumentative pieces and propaganda, then you must have gotten higher marks in school than I did.
And BTW, you should get some lyrics to what you call *your* anthem before demeaning mine.
id like to add to add to this - in his comment he say to accept our history , the fact that we have an anthem is due to the acceptance of our history which without the frontier having being closed by Franco would nohave happen so just one more thing to say . Spanish Facisist's accept your history Franco is dead stop living in the 70's .
You are a complete ignorant. Spanish claim on Gibraltar dates back from the illegal occupation and laws in XVIII and XVII Century and has nothing to do with franquism. The first and the second republic as well as the parlamentary monarquies in XIX and XX Century have kept the claim. Even the present Spanish contitution spek about Gibraltar... SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
You are ridiculous and have no idea at all about the problem. Try to be not so obsesionated about the Generalism.
@hidalgocastellano Para tenr himno no nececitas ser nacion, muchos estados , provincias, departamentos.. en america latina lo tiene. pero gibraltar si es una nacion.
@sebastianbecquer Pues claro que no, todas las reginoes españolas tienen su himno, por poner solo un ejemplo....otra cosa es un himno nacional.ningün pais dl mundo reconoce a gibraltar como una nación. es lógico. No se puede ser colonia (territorio dependiente de otro en un país extraño y mantenido por la fuerza de las armas) y ser a la vez una nación (libre por definicion). el termino nación es subjetivo, discutido y discutible. el de COLONIA no.
@sebastianbecquer ¿A que llamas tú America latina? a la America de segunda clase que es menos america que la verdadera america? es decir EE.UU.? en Europa jamas hablamos de una Europa Latina y otra germánica o eslava. Que triste es ver como auténticos americanos se degradan voluntariamente utilizando un termino "america latina" cargado de racismo y xenofobia. es terrible ver el daño que la ignorancia y los prejuicios pueden hacer a una noble comunidad de millones de personas.
Gibraltar ha sido un territorio Britanico desde el an~o 1704 y por eso somos orgullosos. Es una tierra preciosa que me merece un himno tan bonito como este.
"siempre fue parte de Espan~a". Eso es mentira. Gibraltar ha sido ocupados por muchos y los Britanicos lo conquistaron en 1704 y asi estamos hoy en dia. Britanico. Por favor respete a nuestro himno.
No es cierto. En el tratado de Utrech Espana fue obligafda por la fuerza a ceder el "USO Y LA PROPIEDAD" exclusivamentede sólo una parte de lo que hoy es Gibraltar. ( el resto fue simplemente robadoen el S.XIX sin ninguna excusa). Jamás se habló de soberanía y mucho menos de la creación de un nuevo pais. Gibraltar quedo como una zona de Espana bajo dominio británico, de hecho su nombre oficial en inglés hasta 1830 era" the town and garrison of Gibraltar in the Kingdom of SPAIN"
The treaty of Utrecht is majorly outdated and it just shows Spains desperation to try and take Gibraltar that they are holding on to a 300 year old document. The only thing that matters now are the feelings of teh Gibraltarians and as two past referenda have shown we want to REMAIN British as we have always been.
¿Cómo es posible ser tán cínico? Durante siglos la escusa dada por los britanicos para mantener su base naval y la soberania sobre la roca ers precisamente el tratado de Utrech a pesar de haber sido violado repetidas veces por los ingleses. Como es posible que ahora puedas decir lo que dices. ¿nunca has oído hablar de la palabra coherencia?
¿Cómo puedes decir que lo único que importa es la voluntad de los Gibraltareños cuando ellos no tienen poder de decisión sobre la base naval?
no tienes ni idea de lo q hablas ... es como decir que medio de espana es de morrueco y q las opiniones de los habitantes de alli no importan... pq como saves espana fue occupado por los arabes
¿Acaso los gibraltareños teneis algún poder de decisión sobre la base naval? Obviamente no
Eres tú quien no parece saber mucho del tema, en especial del tratado de Utrech que no reconoce ningún derecho de autoderminación a los colonos ni nada que se le parezca.Yo nunca he dicho que sus opiniones no importen sino que legalmente no tienen derecho a decidir sobre la soberanía de un territorio español bajo un anacrónico dominio colonial resultado de la fuerza bruta de un pueblo sobre otro
Quien es la cantante o si alguien me puede conseguir la versión completa de este himno ?
sebastianbecquer 1 month ago
Does anybody have the full version to this??
BTW: Why pat attention to any of the agrgressors? Why even insult them back? Gibraltar remains British Territory as I write. Over and out.
Neverlookthisway 1 month ago
The one who sings this beautiful anthem, and if someone me podia to give the complete version of this anthem ... or name of the singer?
sebastianbecquer 2 months ago
I want to find the complete version of this anthem of this singer
sebastianbecquer 2 months ago
singer
sebastianbecquer 2 months ago
MUy hermoso el himno
sebastianbecquer 2 months ago
¿Se habla español en Gibraltar, también?
Ronin27x 5 months ago
GIBRALTAR 3-0 ENGLAND
LATINO3051000 5 months ago
GIBRALTAR 1-0 SPAIN,if dey ever play futbol
LATINO3051000 5 months ago
I think iz time 4 Independence and from U.K. & Play FUTBOL 4 celebration
LATINO3051000 5 months ago
Ok so wat I hav learn dat diz sall island has 90% British descent,ok but wat bout da Jewz, Italians,Greeks, Portuguese,Malt,dnt sum ov da people also share sum of that Blood beside British blood,oh greetings from-Mexico
LATINO3051000 5 months ago
Gibraltar <3
LegoUrkzo123 5 months ago
it's a problem with this anthem...it ain't complete...but the singer's sweet voice made me melt...however, it's just the first part...despite this national song sounded harmonic & emotive...in other terms...the only fail is the length...because Gibraltar's Rock is awesome too...i just love Gibraltar...& due to this detail...all my good wishes...& of course, my friendly cheers...from Czech Republic
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
Same old shit -
The brits force their way into a country through WAR - expel the indigenous population - plant their own....and then cry democracy and enlightenment.
Of course britain will have a majority if its engineered. If people are planted there.
Spain - Grow some balls and close that border, indefinitely.
(The people in mainland UK will see how stupid this kind of shit is in this century)
(The rest of europe and the rest of the thinking world...will support you)
HLecterPHD 6 months ago
@HLecterPHD
Spain closed the border before... result- Gibraltar stays British. Britain doesn't like being threatened, and they very rarely work.
Myles0Harcourt 4 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Hows ignoring somewhere a threat.
HLecterPHD 4 months ago
@HLecterPHD
If your proposition took effect, that would be a threat.
Myles0Harcourt 4 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt How so? Do explain.
HLecterPHD 4 months ago
@HLecterPHD
OK.
So your profile states that you are from Ireland (I presume you mean the Republic, not the North). Now suppose the United Kingdom decided it didn't like you, and started a naval blockade, or attempted to cut you off. Would you not consider that in the least bit aggressive and threatening?
If Spain closed the Hispano-Gibraltarian border indefinitely, That would be a similarly threatening move, would it not?
Myles0Harcourt 4 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt A blockade is something other than refusal to trade with you, or let you access a country. Its passive, not active.
If Spain closed its border it would have every right to, you cant force a country to trade. Theres access other ways.
HLecterPHD 4 months ago
@HLecterPHD
If Spain closed its border, as it would have a right to, then although it could hardly fail to sour relations, it would not be aggressive in itself. However, it would hardly be progressive either, and could reasonably be expected to be the prelude to something else.
Myles0Harcourt 4 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt the border has been closed many times but has not resulted in war. so i don't think 1 more time would be seen as an act of aggresion
awesomesause229 2 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt spain can close the border because the treaty of utretch (who has been violated by britain) says clearly that the border should be always closed. But no close the border, spain will impose a little toll so every british who wants to come to spain or go back to the colony has to pay 5 euro. Like that at least you compensate your illegal banking, money laundering, water polluting, traffiquing, etc.
kaikovich 2 months ago
@kaikovich
A matter for Spain and Gibraltar to discuss. As I understand it, a lot of Spanish Citizens cross the border to buy items at much cheaper prices than in Spain, to a lot of Spaniards might be inconvenienced as well.
Myles0Harcourt 2 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt that is a matter for Spain to think about, not for you to "discuss" anything. Only british and turists pay, we are not imposing payments on ourselves. If the colony continues to pollute the sea maybe some ships can go to sink that illegal refinieries aswell. There is a lot to do before retaking the colony.
kaikovich 2 months ago
@kaikovich
You really propose some sort of military assault on Gibraltar? Under the Treaty of Utrecht our sovereignty is recognised, and if you should try to remove that sovereignty from us against the will of the Gibraltarians, we will stop you. We stopped the Argentines 14,000 miles away, we will stop Spain a few hundred miles away.
Myles0Harcourt 2 months ago 2
@Myles0Harcourt however the waters are being illegally occupied, and the istmus as well. We shall send tanks and ships to stop that violations of the treaty. Every part of the treaty has to be respected, for example the one that says that gibraltar should not have any legal jurisdiction (but it has a constitution). Respect the treaty, we respect your rock. Not respect? we invade your rock soon
kaikovich 2 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt oh Argentines how many soldiers could send to Malvinas? 1000 maybe? ok, how many soldiers can Spain send to Gibraltar? 400000?? how many can you send?? oh use nukes for that rock? I guess you will not be so stupid
kaikovich 2 months ago
@kaikovich
Of course we would not use nukes on our own people (even though we have them). In 1982 the Argentines sent tens of thousands of troops to the Falklands in a few days and we still won. Spain would certainly be a challenge greater than Argentina but we have about 200,000 more soldiers in our army than you do as well as the Royal Gibraltar regiment which could no doubt hold you off long enough for reinforcements to arrive.
Myles0Harcourt 2 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Royal Gibraltar regiment? does that have tanks, planes? we do, we can take the colony in 5 minutes and then fill it up with tanks, defenses, troops, etc, so you can never take it back. Malvinas is not connected to Argentina thats why they could not send tanks, planes or lots of troops, but we can, and you dont. Also we can prepare the invasion with a lot of care and still attack by surprise, but you cant know when to prepare the defense. We have all the advantage.
kaikovich 1 month ago
@kaikovich First Argentina could send troops- our forces were roughly equal in 1982. Second the Falklands were in range of their planes, whereas we could only send 40 or so on carriers, and they had lots of planes in Stanley and Pebble Island.
On Gibraltar, don't forget you have tried and failed to take it before, and no doubt the RGR could hold you up for the few hours needed to fly out reinforcements. And the reinforcements WOULD have tanks and planes, and our army is bigger than yours.
Myles0Harcourt 1 month ago
@Myles0Harcourt RGR has 200 troops. Their daily activities can be easily studied before attack. They are tiny, they are exposed, they dont have any support, how can they resist vs an entire army? They surrender in no more than 10 minutes.
You only have 30 transport planes, with a capacity of 100 soldiers and 1 tank each. Only 3000 soldiers and 30 tanks vs 150,000 soldiers and 700 tanks. The combat planes you have are not in range and you only have 1 old aircraft carrier. You dont have a chance
kaikovich 1 month ago
@kaikovich Remember that in Gibraltar they know their area well and what they have to defend. Remember also that the RN regularly has forces there as does the RAF. Also, what happens when we send over a task force like before? If you want to catch us without carriers you'd better be fast, because we build two supercarriers right now with the JSFs to fly from them. I would say we would have a pretty close match. Either way, it's not going to happen so why worry about it?
Myles0Harcourt 1 month ago
Freedom for the Basque country.
Gibraltarians already have freedom.
Rule britannia.
scummerten 8 months ago
Españoles, llanitos, ingleses, dejad ya estas broncas. Viva Kaiane Aldorino!
Rustikk86 1 year ago
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MrMigutie 1 year ago
Esta bandera es de la reina de castilla.Buscate otra
manolito17121958 1 year ago
British Guyana it`s Venezuela Territory , same than Esequibo River, Viva Venezuela Viva Bolivar y Miranda carajo
The093077 1 year ago
Fuck British viva Venezuela Carajo
The093077 1 year ago
@The093077 keep trying NUMBNUTS RULE BRITANIA
burnley5960 9 months ago
Spics. You are next to the southern italians the lowest of Europe. You lost Gib fair and square. Canada doesn't squeal about St. Pierre/Miquelon, the yanks don't really notice Bermuda, and the Moroccans aren't as hot and bothered about Ceuta and Melilla as people think.
You just can't t over the fact you lost (and deserved to) and Gibraltarians despise you, lowlife puking whiners
BTW, how do you in spain feel about your Moroccan possessions Awful quiet, ain't ya? hypocrite cowards.
Scriptorsilentum 1 year ago
@Scriptorsilentum yes we lost it to the dutch and english (english cant win alone, they need scots, dutch or irish slaves by their side), but we can recover it anytime now. Tell morocco to leave Sahara, become a democracy who respects christians and we will talk with morocco. The difference is that we can crush the whole morocco in 15 minutes, but you cant come to spain and win, so fuck off.
kaikovich 1 year ago
@kaikovich you mean as Tareq Ibn Ziyad did ? lolll you won't never crush the Amazighs except if they did it once again, and Gibraltar won't never return to you cowards. (probably in dreams)
punkandpunk 8 months ago
@kaikovich and how is your economy doing?
p.s. your a cunt
p.s.s. who's had the biggest empire in the world hmm i believe Great Britain has.
959chris 4 months ago
@kaikovich actually spain was nailed by the moors and it took them ages to get freedom and in the new world the english battered the spanish and liberated colonies. adding to this because spain was now weak they made freinds with napoleon who when he started losing invaded spain and made his bro king. WE ie the ENGLISH helped so stuff u so fuck u dick head !!!
awesomesause229 2 months ago
@Scriptorsilentum EXACTLY G-D SAVE THE QUEEN
burnley5960 9 months ago
to all ''idiots''/RETARTS!!
gibralter/ EVEN FALKLANDS HAS 98% BRITISH DESCENDENTS SO IT COMES AS NO/0 SUPRISE THEN THAT GIBRALTER A SMALL AREA ABOUT THE SIZE OF A ''TINY'' CITY/LARGE SIZE TOWN WITH NO REAL SIGNIFIGANCE DOESNT WANT TO BE WITH SPAIN DOES IT.
IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME LOOK IT UP/WIKI IT/BETTER YET GO THERE;.................................''NEARLY EVERONES BRITISH''
SO WHY WOULD A PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO ANCESTERY TO THE LAND WANT TO BE APART OF IT.......DAH!!,......DUM DUMS!!
Phobososs 1 year ago 6
@Phobososs thats right, that is why they should return to their country, london, and leave the land they are colonizing illegaly. If they dont do it peacefully, they will be forced to.
kaikovich 1 year ago
I loved Gib when I went there- what a magical feeling walking across that runway back in to the arms of Mother Britainnia- Gibraltar you are amazing- never change, never alter, never falter in your desires- we back in England support you.
bishyboy1 1 year ago
Rustikk86, I think you are the ashole here who can't get over the fact that your people Lost Gibraltar. Go screw yourself and your spanish crown. i do speak spanish, and although it is my native language, what your people did was wrong, and everybody knows it, an apology was never even given.thats why i am resentful of your contry....shame on you!
taino4281 1 year ago
This is similiar to the jamaican national anthem, cool national anthem to copy.
MoeNguyen 1 year ago
KEEP GIBRALTAR BRITISH¡¡¡ FUCK SPAIN AND FREEDOM FOR ALL THE NATIONS THAT ARE OPRESSED BY SPAIN¡¡ (Catalans , galicians, basques .........)
uudrakgvens94 1 year ago
@uudrakgvens94 Don't forget the Spanish!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OlloireAmande 1 year ago
God FUCK the Queen
jovivi22 1 year ago
@jovivi22 hahahahaha why would the people OF GIBRALTAR want to be apart of poor Spain.
99% of the people want nothing to do with Spain!
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 los gibraltareños quieren seguir siendo ingleses por dinero.
jovivi22 1 year ago
@jovivi22 sorry i am British i do not understand
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@jovivi22 Y porqué no Podía ser peor.Podían querer ser extranjeros
OlloireAmande 1 year ago
He did and gave us Gibraltar as a thank you (plus the Falklands ) God really has good taste .
Él hizo y nos dio Gibraltar pues un agradecimiento usted (más la Malvinas) dios tiene realmente buen gusto
OlloireAmande 1 year ago
@jovivi22 Why not? she is Heavenly.
OlloireAmande 1 year ago
@jovivi22 NO CUNT G-D SAVE HM THE QUEEN
burnley5960 9 months ago
I am Spanish and I love Gibraltar, I don't care about colonies, demands or politics but people and Gibraltarean people live in peace and with their own ideas and principles, things that we all should respect.
¡Viva Gibraltar y gente!
ausspan 1 year ago
@ausspan Well said sir /madam.
OlloireAmande 1 year ago
Gilbralter is British but we have some Spanish people there (unfortunately).
Spanish Gibraltar = racists
Spanish Spain = racists.
Kick out the Spanish and keep the British people there.
macphersonleedsunite 1 year ago
@macphersonleedsunite yeah gibraltar is british¡¡¡ greetings from french guiana that wants to remain french¡¡¡¡
cmpFRANCE93 1 year ago
@cmpFRANCE93. Ya a if French guiana is still with france.
macphersonleedsunite 1 year ago
@macphersonleedsunite yup french guiana is still in france , but its not a colony like gibraltar , guyana, as martinique, is one of the metropolitan regions of france even if its quite far , and here we are proud to be french (blacks, whites , and all other colors) , i say that because i am white but not racist , i only said that because i was born in european france from european france parents xD
cmpFRANCE93 1 year ago
@cmpFRANCE93. That is me point.
macphersonleedsunite 1 year ago
@cmpFRANCE93 Nice one Pierre
OlloireAmande 1 year ago
@OlloireAmande my name is not pierre xD
cmpFRANCE93 1 year ago
1-seguramente soy más listo que tu
2- en el reino unido , gibraltar , i todas las colònias britànicas se pueden compartir identidades, no como en ejjjjjjjjjjjpaña
3- no te lo voy a explicar mas si no lo entiendes me parece bastante obvio ya que eres ejjjjjjjjjpañol
4- que uno tenga 16 años no quiere decir que no sepa de política , seguramente sé más que tu.
5-estoy haciendo bachillerato :)
visca CATALUNYA lliure¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
1.- Lo dudo
2.- No sabes lo que escribes
3.- Comentario gilipollas de un chaval [...] cogete el libro de historia y aprende
4.- Por eso 16 años y ya has visto tanto muuuundo... jaja
5.- Pues apruebalo y luego me respondes, asi maduraras que el tiempo asienta la cabeza
VIVA ESPAÑA
trastreo 2 years ago
1-xD
2- pues tu tampoco
3- la historia es mi asignatura preferida
4- Andorra , Portugal, Polonia
5- estoy en primero de bachillerato i seguro que lo apruebo
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
1.- Pues eso xD
2.- Te has leido ya la constitucion, veo que replicas sin haberte leido la constitucion y los estatutos que rigen la organizacion del estado
3.- Me alegro que lo sea, tambien "es" la mia
4.- Interesantes viajes pero has estado en España xD
5.- Espero que lo apruebes, tu me odiaras a mi porque te estoy dejando mal pero cuando termines el Bachiller estoy seguro de que habras madurado lo suficiente para pensar y deducir por ti mismo cosas que aun no eres capaz por falta experiencia
trastreo 2 years ago
1-lol
2-no , no me la he leido, pero no creo que tu te la hayas leido entera
3-cojonudo¡¡¡
4-claro que si xD :)
5-pero tengo mis opiniones igualmente
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
VISCA CATALUNYA LLIURE¡¡¡
GIBRALTAR BRITISH , FALKLAND ( not malvinas) BRITISH¡¡¡¡
MINORCA BRITISH AGAIN¡¡¡¡
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
Tu eres tonto y tu madre lo supo cuando pario. 16 años nada mas que decir
trastreo 2 years ago
Un hijo de la Gran Preñada más para degollar Nosotros trabajamos, no como vosotras que sois unos parásitos maricones.
Gora ESPAÑA, Gora IRLANDA DEL NORTE LIBRE
Gora IRISH REPUBLIC ARMY
Jafp2010 2 years ago
Gibraltar Is British !!!
Greetings From Germany !
craigzomack 2 years ago
Greetings :).
mastercheff1216 2 years ago
@craigzomack greetings from the UK (and thanks!)
Gary190tube 2 years ago
Siempre ESPAÑOL
trastreo 2 years ago
quien compuso esta mierda? la reina de inglaterra cuando estaba borracha? 1spyroman donde mas fachas hay por m2 es en euskadi 100mil terroristas que pegan tiros en la nuca asesinan niños mujeres,amenazan a la gente y a las empresas , esos si son fachas todos esos nazionalistas fachas del presente sostenidos con gente como tu con el cerebro lavado.y si tan vasco eres y tan poco español por que no te vas a tomar por el culo y dejas los asuntos españoles?
231de300 2 years ago
Jealousy, becuase you got major defeated in the great siege of Gibraltar.
mastercheff1216 2 years ago
¡Cállate, estoy escribiendo esto en español para entender que usted nunca conseguirá Gibraltar hacia atrás, así que no hay sentido ni siquiera intentar. es posible que me insultan por ser británico, pero, al menos Gran Bretaña no era no fascistas, así que vete a la mierda
sovietbroadcaster 2 years ago
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RBCHM 2 years ago
En 1950, el Gobierno británico inició en Gibraltar un proceso de repoblación que, supuestamente, ayudaría a legitimar la supervivencia de la colonia. La acción una burla absoluta del Derecho Internacional fue contestada incluso en Gran Bretaña.
yocolchonera 2 years ago
John Bright afirmaba que «el Peñón de Gibraltar fue tomado y retenido por Inglaterra cuando no estábamos en guerra con España y su apropiación fue contraria a todas las leyes de la moral y del honor».
yocolchonera 2 years ago
valiente pandilla de fascistas . Y Ceauta y Melilla Marroquies. Catalunya de los catalanes. Salios de Euskadi.muertos de hambre que bastante pan comeis de nosotros.
1spyroman 2 years ago
Otro "intelectual"...
TartessosTurdetania 2 years ago
im catalan and im totally agree with you GIBRALTAR BRITISH¡¡¡
and it would be nice that minorca becomes british again
VISCA CATALUNYA LLIURE¡¡¡ if we became a independent nation like the UK sure that we will be your allies
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
CATALUÑA libre jajajajajaja que tienes 16 años atontao que sabes una mierda sobre este mundo que no interesa que sea asi, ellos tambien tienen pueblos asi o es que no sabes nada de macropolitica. En fin termina la ESO
trastreo 2 years ago
1-seguramente soy más listo que tu
2- a algunos les interesa i a algunos no
3- el reino unido los respeta i les da la categoria de "países" ( los países constituyentes que forman el reino unido) ,i en cuanto a sus colonias, son casi países independientes pero siempre dentro del reino unido, el reino unido es un pais decente no como ejjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjpaña i pueden mantener la identidad de cada pais constituyente o colonia i la britànica a la vez
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
1.- Te repites ya te he contestado
2.- [...]
3.- Se nota que aun no te has mirado la constitucion, aunque se supone que se empieza a mirar los articulos en 3º ESO, seguramente eso se deba al adoctrinamiento.
Suerte con la ESO, dudo seriamente que estes en el bachiller sin conocer eso
trastreo 2 years ago
SD 2010!
ghostriderblack89 2 years ago
Gibraltar is British and ALWAYS will be
the next spanish warship to VIOLATE British SOVEREIGN territory will be SUNK
WeAreTheBrits 2 years ago
You couldn't even sink a papercup on the Blackstaff.
southarmagh 2 years ago
BELGRANO
and we cannot wait to do it again to the filth and scum of the eu
WeAreTheBrits 2 years ago
read my reply to 1spyroman and keep make shooting test with spanish flags :)
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
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Me encanta como los rabuos como luispihormiguero todavia se cree que gibraltar es parte del pais tercer mundista de ESPAÑA.....hay gente para todo. Gracias a dios aki no nos hace falta una siesta de 3 horas para descansar de 3 horas de trabajo de la mañana......que flojos
blahrocky 2 years ago
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blahrocky 2 years ago
What an amazing national anthem. I'm actually beside myself.
Arimor1 2 years ago
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GIBRALTAR ES UN TERRITORIO ESPAÑOL.
circulomadrid 2 years ago
Just as your fecking Empire was?
southarmagh 2 years ago
The Sun never sets on the British Empire, Never forget that. Dublin is the second city of the Empire, did you know that?
UlsterBankPLC 2 years ago
God Save Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second! The Rightful Queen of Gibraltar!
Fuck of Spanish, you will never control our rock! You Greasy Pedros!
UlsterBankPLC 2 years ago
As if a fuckwit from Rathcoole knew exactly where Gibraltar lies anyway.
southarmagh 2 years ago
Belfast actually, North Down. Thank god Im safe in Gibraltar, the IRA were shot down in the first week of moving there, I doubt we shall see anymore of those cowards again. And gibraltar is onn the south coast of spain, Do you even know where Armagh is?
UlsterBankPLC 2 years ago
ts... go home tommys....
Kr0n808 2 years ago
Fuck off you Fenian, The Gibraltar people want to stay British, and British they shall stay!
UlsterBankPLC 2 years ago
shhh shut the fuck up dude, i haven't asked for ur opinion, u milky-skin tommy...
Kr0n808 2 years ago
Or what? and being milkey skined gets you through life a lot easier, so I am quite glad to be white. Now fuck off fenian
UlsterBankPLC 2 years ago
Get out of Ceuta then, stupid greasy, oil skinned paella muncher
DonSimonUK 2 years ago
God Save Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Gibraltar!!
God Save her Majesty and God Save the People of Gibraltar!
Keep Gibraltar British!!
Fuck off Spanish Scum! Fuck your King Juan Carlos and Queen Sophia!! Fuck them both!!
loyalistunionist 3 years ago
totally agree with u
a catalan
u know what is catalonia?
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
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Digo copia y pega pq una mierda pa eso
GIBRALTAR ESPANIOL nunca fue!!!
QuePasaShoshi 3 years ago
I am not British or Spanish and I know that Gibraltar has not been Spanish in over 3 centuries. Historically your argument doesn't stand because your land was once Moroccan. Espana=Marrueco? I don't think so.
Get over it. Peace!
thanasifish 3 years ago
great anthem
jamiecomley 3 years ago
What racists the Spanish are ...
JimWatt 3 years ago
Lol you're on crack xD
AsperOfBritain 3 years ago
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british go home out of iberian peninsula imperialist
gibraltar español
VIVA ESPAÑA¡¡¡
roncesvalless 3 years ago
get over it you total cock
roulainde 3 years ago
mongolio
penguinox11 3 years ago
Rock on gibraltar, KEEP GIB BRITISH...!!!!!!!
jasonsfi 3 years ago
Britain loves you <3
AsperOfBritain 3 years ago 2
Al-andlus will never be forgotten the time to take it back shall be near
ArabianKnight1201 3 years ago
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al andalus will return muslim
incha allah.
awayger 3 years ago
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As a Scotsman, i think Gibraltar should be handed back to the Spanish. Britain has no right, regardless of what the inhabitants want.
Free Gibraltar
cfc67 3 years ago
And all scottish should be put under english rule since they still have no king or queen.
Kilts should allowed for women and queers, and haggis served as pig food.
And as a gibraltarian i think that all who is not gibraltarian living in gibraltar should fuck off home.Especially imperialist english and scotsmen.
SERCOGIB 3 years ago
Let Spain do the same with Ceuta and Melilla, by handing them over to Morocco, just as they did with Ifni in 1969 (without asking the inhabitants what they wanted)
British expats in Gibraltar are an embarrassment (especially drunken Scots who drink too much cheap whisky)
BTW, why not have a recording of the whole anthem?
kmfw72 3 years ago
i think ur full of shit! u dont knw what ur talking about ... free gib? ok then let us decide its our lives not urs u scottish cunt
Gibno10 3 years ago
CFC67 should be exposed for the nasty Irish Republican bigoted twat that he or she or is. The fact is that 1000 to 1 people in Gibraltar want to remain British he or she doesn't regonise that they are an undemocratic, out of touch scum bags. At the end of the day the SAS got 3 of your lot in Gibraltar! KEEP ULSTER BRITISH KEEP GIBRALTAR BRITISH!
ynotbreasonable 3 years ago
Here Here!! I as from ulster and believe me we will never go Irish!! NEVER NEVER!!
Fuck off Spanish Scum!! Dont let them take our Rock!!!
God Save her majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second!
loyalistunionist 3 years ago
I don't believe you!!! Hahaha.
southarmagh 2 years ago
Well Ulster hasnt been under control from Dublin ever, and there is no sign of it ever being ruled by Dublin with a Unionist majority in Stormont.!!! Hahahaha.
UlsterBankPLC 2 years ago
free gibrater ???your an arsehole im from Gibraltar and we are british no 2 ways about as for the freedom thing would we be free in the hands of spain get a life you sad ginger scotman! britian has every right for as lo9ng as the people wish it!!!! free england from scotlands bad politicans!
88durham 2 years ago
@88durham Exactly mate well said
burnley5960 9 months ago
hahaha, so now the spanish know how we (dominicans, from dominican republic) feel about when they invaded our homeland. Spain needs to shut the fuckup and accept the fact that Gibraltar does not belongs to them. Spain is the Shithole of Europe. I guess all things you stole from the Americas couldn't help you in your greed. fuck spain and i hope your pathetic kingdom falls to the Arabs. And Yes, We in Latin America do HATE SPAIN! God Save the Queen! (not the spanish one)
taino4281 3 years ago 2
@taino4281 totally agree
uudrakgvens94 1 year ago
@taino4281 Shithole really? Thats why thousands of Dominicans and other Latinos come to Spain to live and work? You're live in US and call yourself "Latin American"? You are sucking up to Anglo-Saxons who you aren't and will never be. Dominicans talk Spanish and have Spanish culture, so accept that and have some respect for your Madre Patria, asshole!
Rustikk86 1 year ago
@Rustikk86 not all consider spain their "madre patria" GIBRALTAR IS BRITISH¡¡¡¡¡
breizhcatalonia1993 1 year ago
Este hino devia ser em Língua Portuguesa, a mais superior de todas, e não em inglês, uma vez que foram os portugueses quem de fato colonizaram tal lugar, influenciando-o diretamente!
hugoeduardoazefia 3 years ago
ceuta et melilia is moroccan
sincer222 3 years ago
Fuck that bitch Tony Blair he a racist faggot boy fucking bitch I would go a couple rounds if he could even handle one and I'd bust his fucking teeth out you asshole Tony Blair is a FAGGOT BITCH!!! That CUNT is going to get the FUCKING SHIT beat out of him he is going to need those shit body guards cause I'd knock him FUCKING out you trick. I FUCKING HATE Tony Blair you all love him and think he's a FUCKING SAINT. He's in with George Bush and the Americans. Keep your FUCKING TRAITOR TONY BLAIR!!
6shotns240s 3 years ago
take it your not a fan of tony blair.
englishjac 3 years ago
Hahahahhaaa! Hey 6shot, I'm English, and many of us here despise Blair too.
The86416 2 years ago
Ke viva el himno de Gibraltar woooo LLANITOOOOOOOOS
mecagoentodio 4 years ago
VAMOS LOS LLANIS!! XD
caramojon 4 years ago
Gibraltar no es una nacion por tanto no puede tener un himno nacional. Deberiais aceptar vuestra historia y vuestra lamentable situación actual y dejaos de ridiculas fantasias nacionalistas
hidalgocastellano 4 years ago
Al contrario hidalgocastellano. It is you who should wake up from your Francoist ideals.
The truth is that if you can make any sense out your own puerile argumentative pieces and propaganda, then you must have gotten higher marks in school than I did.
And BTW, you should get some lyrics to what you call *your* anthem before demeaning mine.
redcoat1510 4 years ago
well said redcoat
Meregy 4 years ago
id like to add to add to this - in his comment he say to accept our history , the fact that we have an anthem is due to the acceptance of our history which without the frontier having being closed by Franco would nohave happen so just one more thing to say . Spanish Facisist's accept your history Franco is dead stop living in the 70's .
cripitto 4 years ago
Don´t you realize than Spain´s clame on Gibraltar is 200 older than Franco??? It´s you who still thinks to belive in the 70´s
Peoples have a right to claim for justice by peacefull ways as Spain do.
hidalgocastellano 3 years ago
You are a complete ignorant. Spanish claim on Gibraltar dates back from the illegal occupation and laws in XVIII and XVII Century and has nothing to do with franquism. The first and the second republic as well as the parlamentary monarquies in XIX and XX Century have kept the claim. Even the present Spanish contitution spek about Gibraltar... SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
You are ridiculous and have no idea at all about the problem. Try to be not so obsesionated about the Generalism.
hidalgocastellano 3 years ago
xDDDDDDDDDDDD total agree with u , read my coments please :)
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
@hidalgocastellano Para tenr himno no nececitas ser nacion, muchos estados , provincias, departamentos.. en america latina lo tiene. pero gibraltar si es una nacion.
sebastianbecquer 2 months ago
@sebastianbecquer Pues claro que no, todas las reginoes españolas tienen su himno, por poner solo un ejemplo....otra cosa es un himno nacional.ningün pais dl mundo reconoce a gibraltar como una nación. es lógico. No se puede ser colonia (territorio dependiente de otro en un país extraño y mantenido por la fuerza de las armas) y ser a la vez una nación (libre por definicion). el termino nación es subjetivo, discutido y discutible. el de COLONIA no.
hidalgocastellano 1 month ago
@sebastianbecquer ¿A que llamas tú America latina? a la America de segunda clase que es menos america que la verdadera america? es decir EE.UU.? en Europa jamas hablamos de una Europa Latina y otra germánica o eslava. Que triste es ver como auténticos americanos se degradan voluntariamente utilizando un termino "america latina" cargado de racismo y xenofobia. es terrible ver el daño que la ignorancia y los prejuicios pueden hacer a una noble comunidad de millones de personas.
hidalgocastellano 1 month ago
god bless gibraltar from your cousins in Scotland.
gilpy74 4 years ago
I am Spanish and I love this anthem, Congratulations Gibraltarians! I love you, despite you belong to the Uk, I think we must be friends above all.
ausspan 4 years ago 7
if only all Spanish people were like you show your compatriots the truth .i agree we can all be friends in the long term it doesn't hurt anyone
cripitto 4 years ago
Gibraltar ha sido un territorio Britanico desde el an~o 1704 y por eso somos orgullosos. Es una tierra preciosa que me merece un himno tan bonito como este.
"siempre fue parte de Espan~a". Eso es mentira. Gibraltar ha sido ocupados por muchos y los Britanicos lo conquistaron en 1704 y asi estamos hoy en dia. Britanico. Por favor respete a nuestro himno.
Meregy 4 years ago
No es cierto. En el tratado de Utrech Espana fue obligafda por la fuerza a ceder el "USO Y LA PROPIEDAD" exclusivamentede sólo una parte de lo que hoy es Gibraltar. ( el resto fue simplemente robadoen el S.XIX sin ninguna excusa). Jamás se habló de soberanía y mucho menos de la creación de un nuevo pais. Gibraltar quedo como una zona de Espana bajo dominio británico, de hecho su nombre oficial en inglés hasta 1830 era" the town and garrison of Gibraltar in the Kingdom of SPAIN"
hidalgocastellano 3 years ago 3
Por tanto la idea de que gibraltar no es Espana no sólo es reciente e inventada sino que además es falsa incluso desde la perspectiva británica
hidalgocastellano 3 years ago 2
The treaty of Utrecht is majorly outdated and it just shows Spains desperation to try and take Gibraltar that they are holding on to a 300 year old document. The only thing that matters now are the feelings of teh Gibraltarians and as two past referenda have shown we want to REMAIN British as we have always been.
Meregy 3 years ago 3
¿Cómo es posible ser tán cínico? Durante siglos la escusa dada por los britanicos para mantener su base naval y la soberania sobre la roca ers precisamente el tratado de Utrech a pesar de haber sido violado repetidas veces por los ingleses. Como es posible que ahora puedas decir lo que dices. ¿nunca has oído hablar de la palabra coherencia?
¿Cómo puedes decir que lo único que importa es la voluntad de los Gibraltareños cuando ellos no tienen poder de decisión sobre la base naval?
hidalgocastellano 3 years ago 2
no tienes ni idea de lo q hablas ... es como decir que medio de espana es de morrueco y q las opiniones de los habitantes de alli no importan... pq como saves espana fue occupado por los arabes
Gibno10 3 years ago
¿Acaso los gibraltareños teneis algún poder de decisión sobre la base naval? Obviamente no
Eres tú quien no parece saber mucho del tema, en especial del tratado de Utrech que no reconoce ningún derecho de autoderminación a los colonos ni nada que se le parezca.Yo nunca he dicho que sus opiniones no importen sino que legalmente no tienen derecho a decidir sobre la soberanía de un territorio español bajo un anacrónico dominio colonial resultado de la fuerza bruta de un pueblo sobre otro
hidalgocastellano 3 years ago