Michael Tsarion - Architects of Control HQ (Pt 1/16)

[fmmetamc]

me personally, when i think im right, and someone says something contrary is right, i wanna delve as deep as i can into that material, so as to either learn the actual truth, or be able to accurately refute the claim, i guess thats the difference between earnest truth seekers and people like tsarion.

[fmmetamc]

why is it that new agers,for all their pretty clothing they put on their beliefs, show thier true colors at the first sign of criticism? and never do much of anything to refute, in specific, points made, instead slinging insults and assumptions that they act like allows them to discount what your saying without looking into it at all?

[getoutofthematrix]

What points do you want to debate, exactly? Bring it!

[fmmetamc]

did you watch the video "tsarion is wrong"? no, didnt think so, this discussion is on pause till you do. im as wise as a serpent, because i know my enemy.

[getoutofthematrix]

How am I a New Ager? Who is slinging insults and assumptions now? Without looking into it at all? There is a psycological phenomenon known as "Projection".

[fmmetamc]

yeah im well aware, doesnt mean anytime you want it to be happening, it is. maybe you should look for some projection in the tsarion clique. keep on cherry pickin and actin like you understand the bible. the bible can be meant to say almost anything if you cherry pick hard enough. but so can a lot of expansive texts, doesnt mean anything.

[fmmetamc]

2 things here: 1-i never said i was referring to you with "new ager" so if you wanna talk psychology, analyze that. 2-if you think you arent a new ager, yet agree with what tsarion has to say, you OBVIOUSLY did NO research, you just believed tsarion, and called that research. are you really ignorent of the new age's connection to tsarion? wow, you really need to look into the people you allow to influence you a little better.

[Anfmethodjor]

@fmmetamc Wise words. The hardest thing is to discern truth from fiction. When you learn a lot from someone, you may forget that some of their teachings and commentary, at the end of the day are assumptions as well. So, it's important to dig in yourself, and achieve your own resolution. Build your conviction, don't be quick to cling onto someone else's.

[fmmetamc]

i was referring to new agers. if a statement is directed at members of a group, and you arent a member of said group, theres no need to address that comment as if it were directed to you in a way meant to describe or refer to you. yet you did. so yes, iv heard of projection, and im witnessing it right now.

[getoutofthematrix]

I still think YOU worship Lucifer!

[fmmetamc]

word up, tsarion is a shill.

[Matthew23and9]

your wrong, tsarion

[getoutofthematrix]

First of all, it is" you're wrong" not "your wrong". Second, just because you don't believe something doesn't make it false. One day, you may wake up and understand. Not likely, though.

[Matthew23and9]

Tsarion worships Lucifer, check my video, he admits it

[getoutofthematrix]

Oh yes that's an intelligent response. You have convinced me sir. I think you worship lucifer.

[Matthew23and9]

Tsarion actually admits he believes the serpent in the garden of eden is God and not Satan... I have a video with him saying it

[fmmetamc]

indeed he does.

[fmmetamc]

he never said it's not true because he doesnt believe it, he said it's not true because it's not true. and inane puntuation corrections are completely unneeded. the funniest thing is people who support tsarion think that people that are against him dont believe anything he says, which is unfounded. the only thing he lies about is religion. but then again nothing else he says is even SEMIoriginal. not that the religious stuff he says is either though, it's all theosophy (luciferianism).

[getoutofthematrix]

I see you've brought a friend! Let's do it! Who are you? Some kind of moderator?  Well I'm the spelling monitor! Your misspelling portrays your ignorance. How exactly does Tsarion lie about religion?

[fmmetamc]

and im no shill, im an earnest persuer of the truth. since there's no indication of that being the case, it must be said that you think people who dont believe tsarion are shills by definition, which is a logical falacy.

[getoutofthematrix]

Both of you shills should do some research. Tsarion does not claim to have original ideas. He says that his ideas are of his mentors. People like Jordan Maxwell, Ignatius Donnely, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud,etc. It is obvious that both of you are some kind of "Christian" . But do you even know what you're talking about? I don't think so.

[fmmetamc]

i do plenty research on all sides of every issue. mispelling has nothing to do with ignorence of something unrelated to spelling, but your assertion that is does is telliing of your general wanton ignorence. and your flippant use of that term to discount valid points people make without even looking into it for yourself.

[getoutofthematrix]

You do not do research because you said Tsarion worships Lucifer. And the Serpent in the garden? Did Jesus himself not say "Be Ye as wise as serpents?"

[fmmetamc]

yeah actually, the entirety of that scripture is this (i know you arent familiar with complete passages, you being a fan of tsarion the editor cherry picker and strategic elipse user) Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves

thats referring to just normal snakes, not "the serpent". if you understand animals, and take the ENTIRETY of the analogy jesus was making, you can then understand the meaning.

[fmmetamc]

tsarion does worship lucifer, you havnt done a lick of research or you would AT LEAST know why im saying that. but you have no idea why im saying that, you just think im making an assumption or insulting assertion. neither are the case. do some anti tsarion research on your own before you say you do research. cause its not research unless you look into what his critics have to say WITH EARNEST.

[fmmetamc]

wait, are you saying that because when tsarion is confronted about his beliefs being luciferian and satanic in origins, and he says their not, and some people still say that his beliefs are in fact of those origins, that those people making those claims CANNOT be correct BECAUSE tsarion said something to the contrary? as in its IMPOSSIBLE that he would lie? bwaaaahahahaha

[fmmetamc]

standard survival skills: learn the hunting and attack techniques of any predators or other sorts of dangerous creatures where you will be attempting to survive. lucifer is the serpent. so we should be in full possesion of his perspective, knowledge, etc, so as to be best equipped to not fall prey to serpents.