Freeze frame @ 1:18 Governor Butch Otter Sprays Thorium over Idaho

[nwtimes]

Otter is not a friend of Idaho!

[josephcderer]

i asked him on live radio in Boise about the aerosol spraying... they got me of the air as fast as they could...

[ahblisschris]

Great vid // You should leave the shill speak so others can know who and what they are.........

[josephcderer]

thanks... funny i looked at some old pictures from the early 90's that were taken at lake Conroe Texas... the checker board pattern stood out like a sore thumb... people have to be blind not to this...

[Lutris]

You're an idiot.

Let me see your degrees in meteorology and physics.

[josephcderer]

ah... show me your degree asshole and then i'll show mine...

[Lutris]

I'm attending Lawrence Technological University working toward a Bachelors of Science in Engineering Technologies and an associates in Mechanical Engineering. I'll graduate fall 2011.

Now please, show me your proof, show me your meteorological background, show me testable evidence.

Do you even know what Thorium is?

[josephcderer]

who are you to demand proof... judging from your profile which resembles something a 12 year old might be interested in... if you really are at university you should have the skill set to do your own research instead of demanding like a small child would do...

[Lutris]

Your grammar and punctuation are more like that of the child you call me. Aside from that, I know that Thorium, which you claim is being sprayed into the contrails of airplanes, is a naturally-occurring slightly radioactive element. If Thorium were being sprayed, then there would be measurable amounts of radiation matching the radiation signature of Thorium. This stuff would be found in the air, the water, and our food. So where is it? What is it doing?

[josephcderer]

you have access to the same information i do... Scott Stevens is a meteorologist... Clifford Carnicom is no slouch either... following this aerosol spraying for seven years... i cannot give you an answer in a sentence... it's all out there if you are interested in the truth...

[Lutris]

So basically there is no evidence, as you can't even cite a source. Please, enlighten me. Cite a source.

[josephcderer]

Lt Col Tom Bearden,Scott Stevens,C.E.Carnicom, Jerry E Smith,...

people believe what they are told to believe... take the blue pill...

[Lutris]

Lt Col Tom Bearden says that " by the time we get a year along into the site, I expect to see a superluminal communication system entering the commercial markets. The system is already working now." That is dated 2003. Where is it? He also disregards the mathematics of physics; without math, there are no physics outside of concept, and without math no proof. He mentions a lot of stuff about electromagnetic waves coming from "the vacuum," but never defines the "vacuum." He's a philosopher.

[Lutris]

He claims to be manufacturing a machine that outputs 100 times the input power. Where's the proof? There isn't any, because it doesn't exist. All of his stuff is dated and based on concepts with no proof, not to mention the very concept violates the second law of thermodynamics. He bought his degree from a university that nobody acknowledges. He claims he wrote a thesis, but it has never been published. He's a fake.

[Lutris]

Scott Stevens' website has the word "alchemy" on the front page. Alchemy, as in turning lead into gold. It's no secret that it's possible to seed clouds, and has been done for decades. Nothing new here. Moving on.

[Lutris]

C.E. Carnicorn has a bunch of fancy looking "documents" on a cheap template website. There are no scans of documents, just typed out, resembling a poorly made Geocities site. He claims that "Aluminum, Barium, Calcium, Magnesium, and Titanium" are all present in the air.

Wrong.

Barium does not exist in a pure state in nature. It can't. It reacts with the air to form barium oxide. Simple chemistry. There's one down.

[Lutris]

Nowhere does he list concentrations of any of the listed materials. Sure, there might aluminum and such in the air as some kind of floating particulate, but it probably exists as parts per million. That's negligible, and wouldn't harm a fly.

Titanium is too valuable to be spread around willy-nilly.

Oh, did I mention putting metal through a jet engine would destroy the engine?

[Lutris]

Jerry E. Smith is unfortunately battling pancreatic cancer, but that won't stop him from writing a book to sell to people for a little extra cash.

On his front page, he quotes the Bible. The Bible is a book in which a bunch of lovely anecdotes have been re-written over the years to reflect the viewpoints of the day. It's a man-made device for mind control, feeding off of man's fear of his own mortality. There is no science in it.

[Lutris]

All of the people listed are after a quick buck selling fanciful ideas with no evidence to back them up aside from speculation and concepts. You're right. People are told what to believe, and you're one of them. Maybe you should do a little bit more research of your own.

[josephcderer]

ah... how many degree's does he have... your right he's probably an idiot too... it's very hard for most people to move outside their comfort zones... ten years from now you will look back and realize what you didn't know... Tesla was an idiot also... lots of folks thought Trevor James Constable was nuts... all were way ahead of their time... the entire SDI was based on Tesla's patents...B. Eastlund stole them google Rayathon... the rabbit hole is very deep... connect the dots...

[Lutris]

Neo took the red pill, by the way.

Tesla was smart, but also thought that we could transmit electrical power wirelessly through the air over huge distances, hence the Tesla coil. I assume you're talking SDI as in "Strategic Defense Initiative" that almost started another cold war. That was a terrible idea.

By "Rayathon" I assume you mean "Raytheon," the old radio tube company responsible for radar, microwave ovens, and guided missiles. What about them?

[Lutris]

Are you going to even pay any heed to all of the evidence in the above posts? If not, then I am fighting a lost cause against an opponent not worth the time or effort. As for my "comfort zone," this IS my comfort zone. Science. Technology. Physics. I understand it and because of that I don't fear it. I think you need to get out from under your aluminum foil hat and understand the world around you instead of cowering behind baseless theories and ridiculous, unsupported claims.

[Lutris]

I don't care how many degrees people have. You still haven't claimed any of your own. Your three sources are quacks. Your "evidence" and "proof" are so full of holes you could drive a herd of buffalo through them.

Connect the dots? I am connecting the dots, and the picture I see isn't the one you do. Maybe you are skipping a few and connecting them in the wrong order?

[greenarcticcat400]

that thing is massive where is the ufo

[useacondompeople]

how do u know it's thorium? and wat is thorium? do they spray all different substances? or they all just spray thorium only? is it the military doing it?

[thetruthergirls]

Two questions: How do you know it's thorium? and Did the governor really say that?

One opinion: Don't erase the negative comments. I like to read them. It's interesting.

Two words of encouragement: good job.

[josephcderer]

damienz007 @ you tube see what he/she did with this video:"UFO's Attacks Chemtrails Tanker Idaho 2009"

[josephcderer]

does your probation officer know where you hang out...

[josephcderer]

Part 5. REMEMBER THE RULES: Clouds need 70% moisture to form. Contrails need low humidity (moisture) to form.

Part 5a.But, somehow, "contrails" are now forming in high humidity -- all over New Jersey, the humid Midwest, tropical Florida, the sticky South ... dozens and dozens of contrails ... every day! In fact, so many contrails form that they create grids in the sky that baffle people standing on the ground below. It is like an air show

[josephcderer]

Parts 1.CONTRAILS typically form behind high-flying jets in a low-humidity environment. Cold, dry conditions -- exactly those found in the upper atmosphere -- are prerequisites to contrail formation. The humidity level of the upper atmosphere is LOW, which is the reason clouds form in the troposphere -- the lower portion of our atmosphere.

[josephcderer]

The lesson: Clouds and contrails require opposite conditions to form! Do not forget this. Part 2. Now, boys and girls, CLOUDS need 2 elements in order to form -- particles and moisture. They require condensation nuclei (small particulates) for water vapor to adhere to. The size of these nuclei is about seven microns (picture a red blood cell).

[josephcderer]

Part 1a. Jet contrails, which occur at high altitudes (e.g., 40,000 feet) disappear quickly -- much like your breath on a cold winter day. They are simply made of water vapor. (Why do contrails disappear? They evaporate in the dryness, helped along by solar radiation.)

Part 2. Now, boys and girls, CLOUDS need 2 elements in order to form -- particles and moisture. They require condensation nuclei (small particulates) for water vapor to adhere to. .

[josephcderer]

Part 2:

Well the same thing happens to jet engines only they are consuming

huge quantities of air to mix with their fuel hence their exhaust is visible

for much longer than your vehicle the end result is still the same

as what comes out of your vehicles exhaust it fucking disappears

quickly get it?

[josephcderer]

Part 1:

Dear Soggy Condoms:

Jets burn fossil fuel just as we do in our vehicles right?

What do you see on a cold day when you are sitting at a stop light

from the vehicle that is in front of you you see vapor coming

from their exhaust pipe right?

What happens to that vapor that you see after a couple of seconds it disappears doesnt it

[josephcderer]

why don't you put up your own video's and explain to your subscribers what you think you are seeing...

tell your subscribers how ice forms when coming into contact with hot gases and that this "ice" some how propagates it's self... and then it becomes flying ice and now defies the laws of physics... yea that's the ticket... i m sure sheeple will swallow that bull-shit... you did... bahaaa bahaaa bahaaa

[josephcderer]

if your brain were brain-washed... would your brain know it...

[josephcderer]

"Dear Soggy Condoms:

This is a free country... and you have the right to be un-informed if you so choose... and you also have the right to be a moron if you so choose... take your medications... maybe more Ritalin will help...

[lowrider1007]

aerosol scattering (aka chemtrails) is now a government sponsored project and part of the Dept of Energy to combat global warming and climate change. Your Representative most likely supports this legislation. You are correct that these videos do not prove anything but rather they do show evidence that what we propose is actually taking place. Atmospheric spraying will be introduced to the public as a global-saving event that must be done, for the better of mankind. Thanks for your comments.

[josephcderer]

glo-bull warning is B.S. aerosol spraying in spades has been under way for more than 10 years... and in all likelihood has been going on for decades.

[lowrider1007]

isnt it funny how stars15k doesn't leave comments on chemtrail vids where those posters videos can't be debunked hhmmm

you got some major trails there

thanks for sharing

PEACE

[lowrider1007]

There are non-persistent chemtrails, usually prior to major spraying of lingering chemtrails.

Stars15k is a moron - do not listen to him/her, trying to debunk skywatchers

block him

PEACE

[josephcderer]

damienz007 @ you tube see what he/she did with this video:"UFO's Attacks Chemtrails Tanker Idaho 2009"

[useacondompeople]

is it only in idaho? or all the u.s. states? maybe just in the west? what can be done? this is serious shit here. have u called ur local news people? tell em.

[tipostranox]

that was a good shot....i am waiting for my firts "interrupted trail" too!

[josephcderer]

damienz007 @ you tube see what he/she did with this video:"UFO's Attacks Chemtrails Tanker Idaho 2009"