The Korg MS-20: The Patch Panel 1

[basslinegenerator]

THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH as there is virtually no documentation about the batch panel of the ims20, this helped me A LOT, escpecially what happens to different knobs after patching

[MyroslavMakashov]

Hi Marc,

You're making great MS-20 videos! BTW, what is the small device on the top of the synth?

Cheers,

[AutomaticGainsay]

@MyroslavMakashov Thank you! It's a small passive Rolls 4-channel mixer!

[caseyDsutherland]

What's great is that since Korg is using the MS style patching in their DS-10 and their iMS-20 for the iPad, that this is incredibly useful information for those applications as well. Thank you so much!

[AutomaticGainsay]

@caseyDsutherland Glad I could help!

[doulos24]

this is helping me alot with my new ms20 legacy controller thanks man!

[skipgamer]

also using them to learn patching on the ipad. thanks heaps :)

[BIGSABMUSIC]

thats too damn much plugging and unplugging

[atlantis10500bc]

Thanks for these vids, helping me a lot with my ims-20 for ipad.

[AutomaticGainsay]

@atlantis10500bc I could have never foreseen that these videos would be instructional in that way, but I'm glad I could help!

[fable2omg]

@AutomaticGainsay Well you helped me to play my Legacy MS-20 software! So now if I ever see a real MS-20 in my life I'll be able to do awesome things! Like most of things the Korg isn't complicated... Once you understand how its working!

[ellebball]

@AutomaticGainsay im using them for the ipad too, thanks for the vid

[goofparade]

Excellent tutorial, thank you!

[AutomaticGainsay]

@goofparade Thanks for watching!

[doctormotte]

nice 1!

[tladb]

Thanks for the videos. They make a great start for my iMS-20 on the iPad.

With the iPad version you can use the mod wheel (or any other control source) to control multiple items. Just drag from the item you want to control to the controller to get multiple wirings. Example: from VC HP filter to mod wheel and then from VC LP filter to mod wheel.

[lobit12]

hey mark is there any 'workaround' for having the filters track the oscillator cv? i know there is a kbd cv out but it only works for the range of the built in keyboard, if you use the octave switches it doesnt do anything.

is there no other way to acheive the effect of being able to 'play' the self oscillating filter across the keyboard somewhat accurately.

i always thought if one of the osc had audio and cv out you could do this plus fm sounds too. maybe its a mod?

[Firepowerforfreedom]

So, I just bought iMS-20 for iPad and these tutorials are coming in very handy. My college pep band is a little low on resources (read: players, instruments), so I'm going to use iMS-20+amp as a tuba/baritone (might post a video once it's all said and done).

One complaint, though: the video res is too poor to read the MS-20 labels.

[VacTrooper]

I think I have a theory as to why this thing sounds so gritty... Since they put SO much into such a little package, there is less resistance going through the whole thing, therefore it's LOUDER and GRITTIER, NASTIER... A legit theory? People say that's the reason why the TB-303 is different sounding than the x0xb0x, is becuase Roland made the 303 cheaply and crammed a lot into a small package, thusly creating that sound, whereas the x0xb0x is better made... Make sense, or am I crazy?

[AutomaticGainsay]

@VacTrooper Well, it's certainly possible! I usually just blame the structure, order, and type of filters!

[VacTrooper]

@AutomaticGainsay Haha, THAT makes a bigger difference, I think.

[albedoshader]

@AutomaticGainsay: I vote for the latter. The size is rather unimportant. Voltage instabilities, quality of resistors amd stuff like that play a lot greater role. VacTrooper, your theory of "lost power" sounds not very plausible. Filter and oscillator design/waveform shape seem to be much more plausible factors for "grittiness", in addition to modulation possibilities.

The MS-20 has a pretty unique triangle waveform shape, for example, like a ring modulated sawtooth wave.

[gear4sale]

Great Video.... I just bought one today. Is yours a custom white paint job? It looks cool with the white.

This video helps me a great deal. Dod you know where I can get a manual?

Thanks and keep synthing

[AutomaticGainsay]

@gear4sale It was a custom white paint job done with HOUSE PAINT by someone who should probably be in jail. : ) I'm glad I could help! I am sure that someone has the manual available for free on the internet.

[HoracePL]

who the hell disliked this?

[AutomaticGainsay]

@HoracePL It was me. I hate having to patch so much to get a simple modwheel effect. ; )

[jpmartineau]

@AutomaticGainsay Surely it's the fault of the guy that did the video.

[AutomaticGainsay]

@ReneeNme Where IS the trash heap?

[Tx66]

4:50 : Hey Marc, I can't seem to get my Ext. Input to work...I routed an Output of my Interface directly to the Input but nothing happened...anything I have to adjust aside from the filters before I hear a result?

Also the Noise Generator and the White Noise Oscillator on my MS20 are way more quiet than yours in the video. Is my MS20 somewhat damaged?

[AutomaticGainsay]

@Tx66 Have you tried holding down a note when you are inputting the sound? I can't remember specifically, but you may need to have the VCA envelope triggered (or held open with the "hold" knob) to hear what's coming in the external input! Where are you plugging the noise in?

[Tx66]

Hi Marc, holding down a note and triggering the envelope that way did the trick...and I solved the noise problem as well, I just "mispatched" it a little bit :)

Everything's working great now! I'm really thankful for your MS20 tutorial videos since they actually made me buy one. At first you think it's too much to handle with the patch panel and all but as soon as there's somebody to explain it to you, things look a lot brighter!

[yanagisawakenji]

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[Desmaad]

I prefer the pin grid on EMS' stuff.

[carlosnata]

BRO, YOU ARE A FUCKING LEGEND!!!

[AutomaticGainsay]

ha ha, thanks

[mynmyself]

is this "eurorack" type of patches? i mean... are they minijack? 1/4"? ... i suppose you can use the patchbay as modules to use in conjunction with a modular system... right? if so... i am goingo to ebay right now!

[AutomaticGainsay]

Quarter inch. Remember, it's hz/volt, so it's not compatible with a lot of modular stuff. If you want modular, I'd suggest going modular and not getting an MS-20.

[noddyspuncture]

@AutomaticGainsay It is if you buy (or build) the Korg MS-02 interface!

[AutomaticGainsay]

@noddyspuncture Yes, but I'm going to assume if someone asks me if a keyboard does one thing or another, they're not asking me if there is something else they can buy to get it to do one thing or another. ;)

[manufacturedZ3R0]

Thank you. I've had an MS20 for ages and it's always been a love hate affair for me. Without someone to explain the patch bay it can be a complete dog to figure out. I started off by trying to copy patches from the VSTI but it's pretty obvious that as well as sounding nothing like the real deal the softsynth has had a lot of enhancements added to it. Which is really misleading when you try to copy it's patching.

Cheers for the info.

[brianwilson49]

dood - you know your sh*t!!!! thanks for explaining this rather impenetrable patch bay to me!

[AutomaticGainsay]

Thank you, and thanks for watching!

[nickeax]

It's a pity you have to be as clever as Marc in order to use a synth!

5/5

[AutomaticGainsay]

Ha ha, shouldn't that mean anyone can do it? ; )

[nickeax]

I guess anyone can 'muck around' with a synth, part of the appeal!

[nudist0885]

Ok Mr. Doty,

So what would you able to do with that "little box" if EVERYONE of the jacks on the front panel was routed one of the other jacks so that all 32 jacks were filled with a patch cord at one time?

[AutomaticGainsay]

That's pretty much what you have to do to get a decent pitch bend or standard modulation. ; )

Seriously, though: I'm sure I've tried it, but I can't remember how. I don't have the MS-20 anymore... someone else will have to take your challenge. : )

[adrian480]

lol..crazy machine

[Compooky121]

That is one complicated machine.

[Mankemacho]

It is less complicated than it looks. I have the vsti version. :)

[djiceburg]

thank you korg for that vsti!

[buntymag]

awesome video again. roll on part 2

[retrosound72]

The MS20 is really a beast!

Very nice vid as always.

greetings

[aretz28]

WOW. Where do you come across these GREAT synths?

[AutomaticGainsay]

They are all waiting for you on eBay...

[carbonatedbrainsauce]

Cool vid, now if only I had as MS-20...

[rspexperiment]

great video! good to have you back on you boob tube, marc! :-)

[mwright165]

cool

[danmusicstoke]

hey, great vid.

just started using the vst verson of the ms20, your vids helps a lot with understanding it.

thanks.