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  • can someone tell me in which chapter of the bible that Jesus ever said that "I am God....therefore you shall worship me" or in any form of sentences that refer himself as a God worth worshiping.

  • Well i guess we know which side can logically defend itself.

  • What an absoloute insult to associate anything with God.

    How can people associate that God can have a son ? How can people say that God had a begotten son, when the word begotten is a filthy and dirty word.

    Why would God, the all mighty ruler of the universe let his "son" die for the sake of man and his sins ?

    Where does the trinity come into this ? 3 in 1 or 1 in 3 ?

    Christian litreture tells us that Mary was 11 or 12 when she gave birth to Jesus and that Joseph was a man of between 50-60.

  • Jesus said who so ever sees me has seen God, God is God, the Holly Spirit is God. Go fugure..."Things that are good to know are hard to understand". Even studing alone will not make one understands the doctorine of the Divine Trinity...God must open one's eyes for this to happen. "faith comes by hearing, hearing by the word of God. Study and pray!

  • Islam teaches man is god

    Christianity teaches man is born to sin

    which religion logically sounds more correct ?

  • I don`t know why Dr.Gleason Archer says Islam and Christianity are closest when to me as a Christian they couldn`t be farther apart. The difference between Christs teaching of the Bible and mohammed`s teachings of the qur`an are as different as night and day

  • @FeignofCordor

    well that obviously a lie

  • @FeignofCordor you should read a translation of the quran on the internet just chck it out then you will see similarities and differences

  • @FeignofCordor I think he says that because. Islam and Christianity are both monotheistic with "many shared profits".

  • @jspankin

    So is Judaism however muslims say Christianity is polytheistic and not monotheistic and their qur`an also says this.

  • @FeignofCordor well he is having a debate with Muslims, he's probably being diplomatic

  • Why does the Quran states the Jesus Ascended up to heaven and is on the right hand of God. And is coming back with his Holy Angels to Judge the world. If I am correct, there is only one Judge. God. Therefore, Either the Quran is incorrect or Jesus is God. Can any muslim clear this statement ?

  • @hguyon No where in the Quran it says that Jesus is coming back, although there are some verses which can be interpreted to mean it. There are certain Muslims scholars who do not believe that Jesus will come back. Yet whether he comes back or not, every Muslim scholar agrees that he will not come to judge the world. Judgement is only GOD's prerogative, not of Jesus.

  • @hguyon Quran does not say that Jesus is on the right hand of the God. It says that he is in the Muqurrabeen, which means those nearest to to God. But this no way makes him God.

  • It really is hard to see how any of these people can possibly take all this fanciful nonsense seriously. They just fill their sentences with fabulous adjectives to elaborate on their imaginary super being. Worse, they all need to quote vague, mystical pronouncements, admonitions and vacuous observations about Mankind by primitive desert tribes who discovered how to write.

  • CHRISTIANITY wins against any religion period. christianity is the only true religon. jesus christ will come from clouds at his second coming.

  • @19t86 It's not really about winning its more about truth and lies

  • The problem is we can't begin to grasp the Holiness of God, I suggest people educate themselves about The Tabernacle and the Holy of Holies. It is crystal clear God established a way for the remission of sins WAY BEFORE Mohammad was born,and believed an angel who contradicted Scripture in EVERY WAY. God and Jesus love humanity and have provided a way for redemption Blessed be the name of Jesus Christ

  • [Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel." ] This is the first prophecy GOD gives in the Old Testament, it depicts Satan being bruised by the womans seed Jesus and Jesus being bruised in the heel, a picture of the crucifixion. The Lord Jesus himself said in Matthew 26:28 for this is my blood of the new covenant, which is poured out for many unto remission of sins.

  • Dare u to ask these questions to Zakir Naik

  • muhammad the prophet for real yeah for iblis satan devil shaitan diabolos diablo lucifer ifrit whatever you call it he was a intelligent man he had a power yes to fight agains jesus after 600 ore more years butt no problem jesus is the god you idiots man go and read man i am out

  • THERE IS ONE GOD TO OBEY AND WITH NO ASSOCIATION TO OTHERS!

  • The problem with muslims is that they always come back to the qur'an, which was recited by a man that had no authority (muhammed) that can be easily prove wrong. The bible instead, can be challenged but never prove wrong... you wanna know why? ..."Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away." Luke 21.33

  • Islam wants me to cut unbelievers fingers and hands off..

  • This christiaa man is lieing !!! I am a Tamil speaking muslim . In my TAMIL language { Inian - asian} we are using and we used several thousands years word WE for a single person as to give respect. Not only WE but olso THEY , THEM, ect....

  • @salma3022

    YOU ARE DEAF OR A LYING MUSLIM OR BOTH.

    BECAUSE THIS CHRISTIAN MAN SAID:" BECAUSE IN NO ANCIENT LANGUAGE OF THE B.C.PERIOD DO YOU FIND SUCH A USAGE".!!!!

    NOW LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU MUSLIM-IDIOT WHAT B.C.PERIOD MEANS:"BEFORE JESUS WAS BORN!!!!!! DID YOU GET IT- SO IS THERE ANY EDUCATED MUSLIM TO HELP HIS IDIOT MUSLIM-BROTHER-"salma 3022" what BC MEANS IF HE STILL IS TO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS TERM.

  • @salma3022 Hey the google translator seems to be malfunctioning. Your post is gibberish.

  • Islam is TRUTH

  • had the devil not been here, the world would be perfect

    btw the final prophet was the only human which brought down new revelations along with following the previous prophets...all religions had been revealed in he quran, therefore the prophet knew all religions

  • too much anis and not enough gleason.

  • Allah is the true god look at hes signs they are all clear why do unbeliefers deny the truth?

  • To Chief Click Clack I must say that ... the things u sed about Muhamed Is completely rumors and lies he was a pious man of the highest standards!

  • There is no logic that human being can give birth to GOD.In another word,GOD creates everything.

  • @jahonboy y not you just said God creates everything so there is a big possibility that he can do anything including the one you mentioned.. God can do anything he likes...

  • @MARKCHAOS and you can talk anything you like ,too? .Don't tell me bullshit ,please tell your stories someone else.

  • @jahonboy No need to talk bullshit here coz youre the one who is bullshit!!!

  • @MARKCHAOS Jews accepted Jesus as their messenger (God) ,you would worship Goat , Cow or your dog?

  • muslims became bigger cuz they didnt believe in fightning they where calm and peaceful and that what people liked about it the fought one battle vs chritians and they won but they didnt want to but they did what had to be done

  • If the Qur'an was important for life and salvation why did Immanuel to teach from the O.T.? Why did the Saviour come approximately 1630yrs before the Qur'an. Ivan Panin discovered a numerical code in the Sacred Scriptures of the O.T. & the N.T. that reveals the authorship of the Bible by El Shaddai. Is there a numerical code in the Qur'an that proves the Qur'an was authored by Allah?

  • IT canbe concluded that religeon and these fictional books are are not only unrealistic and unnessessary. This is because if an individuals supreme entity of choice has not brought it's ass down here to say which belief is the truth, this super being is either a senseless asshole or non existant. Either way it is not important enough to be carrying on with this mass delusional foolishness that causes no more than segragation, prejudice, war, conflict and waste of time in collectively

  • islam and christianity is not the best way to live and die , thats for sure

    power call god is only an emotional attitude ,faith is a sickness , nietzche

    universe must have always been here , stupid to think some one created it

  • Because he was in human form, giving man an example of perfection in man, a perfect man worships God with all his heart and spirit and strength. Also because Christ was seperated from God, with whom he was earlier apart of, becuase he had to become man in order to take wrath from man. In so doing he looked up to the father in worship, though he was one thrust with the father.

  • Christians believe that jesus is god. If jesus is god how does he worship god. Think about it.

  • Watch Ahmed Deedat

  • Say: "O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper), trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by,- who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way. Qur'an 5:77

  • @Godmadereligion Subhanallah!!

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  • @tomohawk211 You're right. Paul in the New Testament warned against men who would come preaching another gospel, and the Qu'ran is another gospel to the Muslims or "would-be" Muslims. "No other foundation can any man lay other than that which is ... Jesus Christ."

  • Archer is a great speaker.

  • Mohammed is a great CHEMIST of religion

  • muslims to prove their faith they used to attack the belief of Christians... coz they cannot prove it in philosophical science perspective

  • @TheAsinatilaw hehe well...

  • we bear witness God is one almighty and Muhammad last prophet of God and islam is best way of life. no even not believe on so called christinity there prohibited pork adultry ,alcohol,women in veil etc etc but u guys are doing without hesitation.

  • haha it's just an hasty generalization my friend... what is wrong with wine, whereas even Jesus himself (a prophet) for you drink wine.... what is bad is alcoholism.... why are you sure that moslems do not drink alcohol?? don't be hypocrite, and what is weong with eating pork??? you just acquired it with the jewish rituals, whereas it was defined by Jesus (ISA) ... how sure you are that muslims women are in veil??? then what if they are in veil???

  • at least we do not deprived the rights of woman for equal protection of the law... we do not deprived them liberty... we do not scourged them in bed if they go against the decision of the man... coz we are humane

  • bcoz of your liberty women looking for child support asking 100's ppl wether he is daddy of her child.homosex,lesbian,gay is new liberty in your religion so plz.stick with that.for us this is vulgarity not liberty.

  • you know why ,we can expect you to connect any fabricated things or crime with jesus but we dont believe jesus was eating pork and alcohol or doing adultry what you guys think your right from birth.we believe jesus was prophet and a muslim having shame and he was innocent.i dont ask you to give respect to our religion but i ask you to do whatever you like coz "guidance" not for u.

  • oh yeah... sent by God, or convince by his wife that he is a messenger of God.Oh yes, a messenger of God who asked omeir to kill a blind woman... a messenger of god who had many wives and promise them paradise. oh yeah a messenger of God??? or a confused person and successfully mixed the belief of Quarish, Juadaism and christianism

  • @TheAsinatilaw oh yeah god in the womb of woman,oh yeah god 9 month in womb,oh yeah god in shape of man,oh yeah son of god,oh yeah god came in shape of man,oh yeah god died,oh yeah god sleep,oh yeah god piss, oh yeah god ...!, oh yeah god killed by ppl,oh yeah 3 in 1 but not 1 in 3 oh yeah god ,son of god, holy sprit oh yeah oh yeah,,oh yeah???

  • oh yeah.... you've got it right 3 person in one god.... oh yeah your right again God became flesh... oh yeah a God died on the cross (but do not forget He rose again)... oh yeah jesus sleep coz HE is a ma (but God at the same time), oh yeah a GOd who let himself to die for our sins.... Are you a Christian how do you know those things??? well go to our church and get baptized

  • oh man this ill-logical thigs you guys saying when you drunk too much and watching stupid dreams.quran is a wisdom and so called bibles are bunch of books we even dont like our kids read.yes jesus was great prophet and god give him miracles and he isnt died but taken to the heaven and rise again for truth that he isnt son of God but was a prophet and jesus(pbuh) was muslim.christinity is not a religion of jesus but fals methodology of idol worshipers.

  • haha all you folks are going to hell

    scientology is the true path..

  • hehe how could you judge that either muslims or christian will go to hell... i taught you insist Scientology.... Why does scince has proven that there is hell?

  • @theasinatilaw

    hehehe i was just being silly

    Scientology is just as dumb,but at least L Ron Hobberd never said to kill anyone.

    oh by the way I read your other comments U make 100% facts. muslims cant prove anything it's all conjecture .

  • Jesus is a prophet from God

  • nrhouseman, ur d 1 who is lousy. maybe the teacher is lousy because he's just a fake christian but the real doctrine of christian is the best. unlike Islam wc has a Jihad. this Jihad encourage a muslim to kill for the sake of their faith but christian prohibits to kill ANYBODY.

  • @0929000LP, Hahahahaha that's hilarious....I am a Christian man and I believe true Christianity is the ONLY way of salvation (through JESUS CHRIST). All I'm saying is the knuckle-heads picked to represent Christianity are lousy defenders of the doctrine of Christ and the Church.

  • remember hitler did with jews,what about japan , and else where is now going on.isnt is christians cruisade?

  • Islam....having sacredness of life!!!!!!! What's wrong with this lousy Christian teacher? Is this guy willingly ignorant or just stupid? Islam does not have any regard for the sacredness of LIFE....they love DEATH and want to see the DEATH of anyone who does not worship allah. Too bad we can't have some strong Christian men to represent the true Christian faith and call Islam what it is....A Religion of Hate!!!

  • @nrhouseman ur freakin retarded wow a bunch of idiots in this comment board

  • Christians are bad in maths.

    1±1±1± = not 1 it is 3!

  • The fullness of the Godhead is in Jesus. Jesus is not 2nd person of God, or a little god, or any other crazy concoction of man....He is who he said He is...the Great I AM...who is God Almighty in the flesh and dwelt among us. These idiots representing Christianity don't represent true Christian faith and doctine at all. They represent a blended mixture of false Christianity that developed over these many centuries. They are NOT what the Christians were in scripture 2000 yrs ago.

  • True Christianity as the Apostles practiced it was not tritheistic, triune in persons, or blended with paganism for convenience. True Apostolic Christianity was the absolute undeniable monotheistic belief that the ONE True God came in the flesh in the man Christ Jesus. Jesus was fully man and the Spirit was fully God...not another person of God, but God Himself in His fullness. Trinity teaching never even arose until during the 3rd century.

  • It's very sad, but the "Christianity" being promoted here and around the world is NOT what it used to be in the days of the Apostles. There are a select few who still hold the absolute Oneness of God as the Apostles and recognize Jesus was in fact YHWH (GOD)in the flesh. Not part of God, Not a 2nd person of God, not a demi-god, but Him in all His fulness and nature in the flesh.

  • @nrhouseman wrong he was a messanger of god

  • I love that these idiots debate about this stuff. Who's belief system based entirely on faith and viewed by its adherents as infallible is "more right"? What a incredibly pointless waste of time.

  • Allah is the one and only unseen God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. Quran is His revelation, just like Torah and Bible before. Mohammed (pbuh) was a messenger of God like all other prophets, and Islam is not a religion, rather it is a prescribed way of leading a perfectly happy and prosperous life for human beings, and it covers every aspect of human life. If a person submits his wills to God, does good deeds, and does not spread mischief on earth, God will be pleased with him.

  • The so called "Christianity" understood by about 95% of the world population is so far removed from original monotheistic Apostolic Christian Faith and teaching that people don't even know what was the original message of Jesus and His Apostles. Jesus NEVER introduced a trinity of God because there's no such thing. God is One. This did not change with Christianity!!!!! It's a fact baptism in Jesus' name was changed to a triune formula to adopt this new trinity teaching in the 4th century.

  • God is NOT 3 persons and these guys make real monotheistic Christians look bad......That 3 person trinity teaching of God is a tradition of man and NEVER was taught by JESUS nor His Apostles...so PLEASE, anyone who cares to know the truth...Don't be fooled by centuries of false teaching and tradition...Christianity in it's pure original form as Christ intended is NOT triune, but ONENESS. I am Christian, born again, full of God's Spirit, and I am Oneness.

  • islam is the TRUTH

  • mohammad pbuh , didnt exaclty have sex witha little girl. he actually gave her respect, life stature by marrying her and she was old enough for marriage . he even married a whore to proof that every women is equal. he defended islam / he didnt fight for land. he didnt steal, where did you get that from ?

  • i love jesus (pbuh) cus hes my prophet also. but can never replace the greatest prophet Muhammad.that isnt dead in our eyes. hes taken from god,cus hes job was to clarify islam, the truth through the miracles he had shown to humanity. there is no wonder why Christians revert to islam. and there isnt any wonder why Christians always loose debates with Muslims.cus they always loose. and i can see how much you know about my religon cus your disrespect just tells me whats Christianity really about

  • @ChiefClickClack OK hold on a minute. where did u hear all this crap from.. give me a book in which it says that muhammad (PBUH) did that??

  • @ChiefClickClack.look out the prophet history from trusted resources, instead of repeating what you hear...Read the whole story and then start judging... obviously, you dont know what you talking about.

  • @DSSNTC While Muslims claim that us Christians don't know what we're talking about, neither do the Muslims know who they're following, which in itself is an even worse scenario. Why would I be willing to trust an angel who revealed a message to Muhammad than trust God who revealed himself through Jesus Christ?

  • @PrettyBoySexy2 good point. It also says, there will be false prophets

  • Muhammed was the same and he slept with 9year old girls, he murdered, loved having wars. and people in the islamic lands wanted muhammed out!" Ive got a video of 2 fomer muslims and they will tell you about islam.

  • @ChiefClickClack The message of Jesus was essentially "obey me or else." Admit it, that's it. I don't see how that makes him perfect. Perfectly fascist maybe, but not worthy of worshipping.

  • @SubconsciousGatherer What He said was that the way we choose to live is the way we will spend eternity. You choose Him and His sacrifice. After all He gave His life for every living person on this planet. There is nothing more God could do but send His only Son to die for us.

    You have the choice as to recognize Him or deny Him. But don't blame Him when you end up in a very bad place.

  • @Daphdong1 What evidence do you have that any of that is true (and please don't tell me that you read it in an old book)? You're telling me a story, but you need to convince me of how you know it's true before it's to be believed. I've read the Bible, and it was entirely UNconvincing. Reading the Bible is why I'm an atheist, so please, give me some evidence or stop threatening me with fantasy torture stories.

  • @SubconsciousGatherer The fact that you're an atheist does not discredit the bible, nor does it disprove God's existence. You're an atheist by your own choice and God'given will. If I decided that I was going to go out into the world and steal, kill, and sleep with prostitutes, that would not discredit the constitution of the United States any more than unbelief disproves that Jesus is Lord.

  • @PrettyBoySexy2 Likewise, you being a theist does NOT prove the Bible is true. Let me ask: If you woke up tomorrow and didn't believe in a god anymore, would you just go out and "steal, kill and sleep with prostitutes"?

  • @SubconsciousGatherer Well, men who got together and voted for laws to pass in the constitution also have said the same thing. Obey the laws of the land or else, but yet we obey them or we'll end up behind bars. And that would be the justice do to us for our breaking the laws. Likewise, God has his law as well, just like man. However, God preserves his justice for the day of judgement, but that does not make him any less deserving of allegiance than mankind who made his own laws.

  • @PrettyBoySexy2 Please provide evidence to back up your assertions. You're just preaching, NOT proving.

  • @ChiefClickClack Perhaps Mohammad would've made a better Catholic priest.

  • @ChiefClickClack which source did you absorb it? sex with little girl, stole, etc etc.. if you want to acquire authentic source just go to the mosque, ask them. Dont swallow what media have just spread where they manipulate what they pleased

  • @ChiefClickClack He killed only in self DEFENCE, he never stole and he never plundered any lands. Where did you get this information from? TV?

  • @kajzar

    Muhammed and the early Muslims spread their religion by the force of a sword......convert to Islam or be killed........this is totally opposite of the way that the Christian church spread........the Christian church spread by men giving their lives for It and being "put to death" for not denouncing Christianity.........

    The biggest sin in Islam is to believe in a triune God........the most important belief in Christianity is belief in a triune God.....they can't both be right......

  • @ChiefClickClack The early muslims spread their kingdom through conquest, yes i agree with you, but they did not tell people "join or die", once they conquered nonmuslim lands they taught the non muslims islam and they converted willingly. The nonmuslims living in muslim lands back then were only taxed differently than muslims were, muslims gave zakat while nonmuslims gave a different task. If they spread islam through force, how would u explain all the jews and christians still in muslim lands?

  • @ChiefClickClack what???....what??? Many people became muslim at that time just by hearing the quran. they were told. "leave islam or die". where did you got your info from.

  • @ChiefClickClack both are perfect as all Messengers of allah (god), and you don't know how is prophet mohamed, and you are like the idea but you don't like the man then try to know more about the man that too many People without any relation to islam consider him as great social reformer, great diplomat, great merchant, great philosopher, great orator, great legislator, and great military leader.

  • @khsadek77 Jesus Christ NEVER sinned and he gave his life for every human being on the face of this Earth.........Jesus Christ was not a prophet; He was God in human form.........and Mohammed was not a man of God; he was liar!.........he murdered, he stole, and had sex with Many, Many women.........I believe that he lied so he could gain control of Property, get Rich, and have sex with many women.........Jesus Christ was perfect, Mohammad was no better than half the kids i go to college with....

  • @ChiefClickClack ok,

    he was liar, this liar was known among his enemies before His followers as the Sincere & the Honest.

    he murdered, he was more merciful to kill or order for killing this murderer order his aramy "Fight in the cause of Allah. Fight those who deny Allah; Do not be embittered. Do not be treacherous. Do not mutilate. Do not kill children or those (people) in convents" this is not a murderer talk

    he stole, stole what and by the way he wasn't a rich at all

  • @khsadek77 Maybe he didn't kill children, but he sure enjoyed having sex with them.........he really enjoyed having sex with all of his slave girls too........I honestly think that he did whatever he could to satisfy his own SELFISH desires..........Christianity spread by people being martyred for their faith.......Islam spread by the force of the sword

  • @ChiefClickClack everything you said is WRONG.

  • God is One and Jesus is the One True God

  • @nrhouseman ur stupid like really

  • @JDskate bored guy, you've got nothing, what have you added to this comment board? NOTHING is what you've added

  • totaly true Jesus is the way the truth and the light no one goes the father but threw him

  • who s teaching is that? r u read bible like read a dictionary? Creation cant b a creator.

  • just read those chapters and verses that i gave you. thank's! salam.

  • hey so what do you think of Isaiah and his prophesies?

  • those are some of the chapters and verses in the Bible about killings and rapes that your "god" commanded you. i doubt that you have read those. don't be ignorant too in your own religion my brother.

  • deuteronomy 17:12 NLT, exodus 22:17 NAB, leviticus 20:13 NAB, leviticus 20:27 NAB, exodus 21:15 NAB, proverbs 20:20 NAB, leviticus 20:9 NLT, leviticus 20:10 NLT, leviticus 21:9 NAB, exodus 22:19, leviticus 20:15, leviticus 20:16, chronicles 15:12-13 NAB, zechariah 13:3 NAB,deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT, deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB, exodus 31:12-15 NLT, isaiah 14:21 NAB, ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT and leviticus 26:21-22 NLT.

  • widzrock. your so right, that isnt the real image of jesus. he was a darskined guy with wooly hair.. christians do not worship jesus but accept him as the savior for man kind to inherit the kindom of heaven.. if you do not accept jesus, then how wuld you inherit the kindom of god. cuz if god is righteous then how culd he jusz forgive baby rapers, and blaspeming athesist without punishment..

  • christians does it all the time. they even call Jesus(pbuh) god, right? we Muslims accept Jesus(pbuh) and believes with his miracles but as a prophet and a servant of God. baby rapers? ignorant! read more about Qur'an and your bible and see who the true baby rapers are. educate your self first my brother. wassalam

  • correction. god is not in heaven but 'arash al 'azhim. its different. But He is more than that

  • shahzidan read my comments carefully. it's from the bible not in the Qur'an. christian beliefs. i got those references in the bible.

  • even your bible stated in deuteronomy 5:8-9 don't make images or figure of God in heaven just to worship it. we all know that God is in heaven not in pictures, stones or in woods. we can pray direct to God without any interventions of those false god or pictures and stones. don't kneel to stones but kneel to God who's in heaven.

  • why do you worship Jesus(pbuh) if he is only the son of God as your Bible stated? what about the real God who sent Jesus(pbuh) here on earth? you're focusing your faith to Jesus(pbuh) without realizing that you're not worshipping the real God. do you think God will send another god to be worshipped by his creations? what about Him? we Muslims worship only Him the God Allah who sent Jesus(pbhu) not the replica or stone of Jesus(pbuh) and it's not even the true looks of Jesus.

  • Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)

    If you don't agree with this, then you don't agree with the whole Bible.

  • i agree when Jesus(pbuh) said "i am the way the truth and the life. no one comes to the father except through me." did you understand what he said? all of the prophets are the way the the truth and the way to God because they are from God and they're carrying the words of God on their respective times and God sent them for us to be saved. that's why they are the truth the way and the life on their respective times. understand? that's a simple message from a prophet my brother.

  • actually i do agree half of the bible but half of it are corrupted and misinterpreted by some authors. there's no such word as trinity in the bible as what you christians believing now,right? the father, the son and the holy spirit. and there's no explanation about the three personalities in it, correct me if i'm wrong. even the bible has no teachings about trinity but teaches about the comforter who will come after him that's why i believe half of the bible.

  • Like most things in the bible, this does not mean exactly what it says. So your aware, i am a Christian and not Islam.

    Jesus is just saying that you must follow his ways to get to the father. "I am the way, The Truth and the Life." meaning i am teaching the proper way to live. "no one comes to the Father except through me." meaning follow my ways so that you can get to the Father. Follow my (Jesus) ways.

    Again i a christian. Not Islam.

  • I am claiming Jesus' divinity here..,

    and without Jesus, you can't get into heaven. Mainly being that your faith is what makes you righteous. Meaning that our faith makes you go to Heaven. and not works.

    to make things clear, our faith in Jesus, because Jesus is the only perfect one, that when God sees us, only Jesus righteousness would satisfy God's justness.

    so basically, it's only through Jesus can we get into Heaven, while God being just

  • @WidZRocK By this statement, this shows that you don't know the bible even in your attempt to proclaim it as something that is not worthy of truth. First, nobody before Jesus has seen God, nor have known him, not to mention anything about his true nature. Jesus was the word of God who was made flesh. He humbled himself as a servant for our benefit. He became obedient even unto death. And this was after he forsook his glory that he shared with the Almighty.

  • those 360 idols were the gods of ignorant people and no knowledge about the true and 1 GOD before prophet Mohammad(pbuh)came to mecca and threw all those idols away from the Kaaba the house of God. moon worshipper? who said that Muslims worship moon?you're just showing how ignorant you are. we Muslims worship only 1 God and the true God Allah just for your information incase you didn't know that. we don't worship idols and stones just like what you Christians doing now.

  • Islam seems from an analytical stand point to be a Monotheistic version of ancient Arabian/ Babylonian Pagan (Moon God) religion. Allah (one of many gods), Kaaba (was Temple of Allah before Islam) , Black Stone (A ritual in moon God worship, which was rebuked in Acts of the Bible), Mecca (where the Kaaba held over 360 idols) , month of Ramadan (A sign from the moon god), facing mecca while praying (because the idols we there) Crescent moon & star symbol is all over the ruins of the Near East

  • are you sure what you are saying are true? it seems like you don't know Islam that much. don't be ignorant my brother. before you make your comment, be sure that you are full of knowledge about the particular religion that you are commenting with. read first the Qur'an and then make your statement. you've been blinded by your idols and priests.

  • There is not a single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus Christ peace be upon him says... 'I am God' - or where he says... 'Worship me'. Infect if you read the Bible, it is mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chapter No.14, Verse No.28 - he said...'My Father is greater than I';

  • Weather or not you think Jesus is God or the son of God, This Christian guy's argument for the God of the Old Testament being plural though still ONE is very strong and logical. If he was to make a claim based on the Old Testament as evidence in an unbiased court, that God is plural and ONE since the Old Testament, he would win.

  • Gospel of John, Chapter No.10, Verse No.29...'My Father is greater than all'; Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No.12, Verse No.28...'I cast out devils with the spirit of God'; Gospel of Luke, Chapter No.11, Verse No.20...'I with the finger of God, cast out devil'; Gospel of John,

  • Chapter No.5, Verse No.30... 'I can of my own self do nothing'...'I can of my own self do nothing - As I hear, I judge and my judgement is just, for I seek not my own will, but the will of my Father.' Anyone who says... 'Not my will but God's will' - he is a Muslim. Muslim means the person who submits his' will to almighty God. Jesus Christ peace be upon him said...'Not my will but God's will.' He was a Muslim - and he was Alhamdulillah, one of the mightiest messengers of God.

  • .We believe...We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention. We believe he gave life to the dead, with God's permission. We believe that he healed those born blind, and lepers with God's permission. We respect Jesus Christ peace be upon him, as one of the mightiest messenger of God. But he is not God, and he is not a part of the trinity - Trinity does not exist.

  • Through out the Bible OT speaks of Jesus! sacrif. of lambs-Abeham-Moses. And so much more! This is what the bible is all about! (Jesus) (Grace) NT is fullfillment of the OT. Ones that don't beleive in Christ-is God, miss what the bible is about! The only way to the Father is through Jesus! To know (see) Jesus then you know (see) the Father. Jesus is (I AM) Jesus always with the Father.Jesus is the word! and the word became a man! He died for you so you can live! if you beleive!

  • salam, every prophets are the way, the truth and the light on their respective times to God because they are prophets of God to lead us to God's way or kingdom and to speard God's words. You said that Jesus(pbuh) is "I AM" then there's a Father? whose "I AM" and whose the Father? even Jesus said that he is not God knor the creator but a messenger of God who sent him. GOD is 1. if GOD is more than 1, the word GOD would be GODS by now. did you get the point?

  • John1 In the begining was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God. He was with God in the begining. Through him all things were made.

    The word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father

    Jesus answered, before Abraham ( I AM) God head in three parts. God is spirit, Jesus is the son=God in the flesh, Holy Spirit= is the Spirit of God. The only way to the God the Father is though God the Son

  • And the other prophets never died for your sins. Only Jesus gave him self, so we can live! What a God! As long, as you believe in his Son you will live! Jesus took our place! This is what the Bible is about! He loved us so much he died for us! God the Son witch is apart of God the Father! God the Father and His ONLY SON = God the Son.

  • Take spiecal note: IN THE BEGINING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD,

    ** "AND THE WORD WAS GOD!"**

  • "even Jesus said that he is not God knor the creator but a messenger of God who sent him"

    Show me this passage in the bible or be deemed a liar.

    There is one God in three persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Those three make up ONE GOD. John 10:30 "I and my Father are ONE." He was then stoned by the Jews because, in John 10:33 "...because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

  • show me first the verse in the Bible saying that Jesus(pbuh) is God then i'm a deemed liar, deal?

    can't you get it? "I and my Father are ONE" that's true 'coz if a person carries the words of GOD are with GOD or one with GOD.got it? let's say Christians are right that Jesus is son of God or GOD, why would GOD send another God to worship. what about the real God? did He sent Jesus to be worshiped and focus our faith to Jesus(pbup)?NO! He sent Jesus(pbup) to spread His words to us!wassalam bro

  • John 14 Philip said to Jesus, "Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need"

    Jesus answered, "Philip, I have been with you for a long time. So you should know me. The person that has seen me has seen the Father too. So why do you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you truly believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The things I have told you don't come from me. The Father lives in me, and he is doing his own work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me.

  • Ogliby5 many religions recognize Jesus Christ, but most just see Him is as a moral man of great character, and a teacher of what is good.

  • islam is the only relegion together with christianity which recognise jesus

  • noooo thats not true islam and judiasm are the closest in like similarties since they both cant eat pork. in the laws judiasm and islam are almost the same. but like in the similareties of jesus christians and muslims are similar on prophet jesus peace be upon him. you guys watch the messgae it is a movie that would change ur mind it came out in 1976 the message

  • Example of husband and wife are one:- Yes in purpose, not physically. Jesus said" no one can pluck them out of my hand

    no one can pluck them out of my father's hand

    I and my father are one (meaning in purpose, not physically. If you really want to understand what the bible says, search for ZAKIR NAIK and click Islam and Christianity or Concept of God in major religions.

  • G-d is enternal and cannot die. Tehillim (psalms) 121 says that "the guardian of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps."

    Jesus slept many nights in his lifetime of 33 years and died physically.

    Hence, Jesus was not G-d.

    The trinity is a fairytale based on a woeful lack of understanding of biblical Hebrew and the word Elohim. It's not plural, the "we" made G-d in our image is a royal majestic use of the word "we."

    The word Echad refers to an aboslute one, not a compound one.

  • Why then did the people killed Jesus?

  • because he claim to be the messiah, they cant accept, that he Jesus said that the rabbi at that time are wrong, jesus came to fulfill the torah

  • how you know if jesus really did die?

  • along with the new testament, there are historical evidence that there was a man name Jesus who was wise and people did see him die and come back to life. You can read from historians like Flavius Josephus. Muhammad said that Jesus didn't die but have no historical evidence in the least bit.

  • but doesnt christians belive in the second coming of jesus?

  • Boy you sure are ignorant of what these hebrew terms mean! The fairytale is that we is a "royal majestic" reference when you can't prove that from the Hebrew Bible or any other literature near that time.

  • Welcome debate.

  • Hallelujah

  • It's called the Trinity. Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. These 3 are One and can be found throughout the whole bible.

    In Gen, God said "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness".

  • the trinity explanation doesnt prove that statement. the statement is very true. but why is Jesus (pbuh) called the son, and God the Farther? the fact that there is no biological explanation, how do you know that someone didnt fabricate the term trinity?