Sacramento ACLU Questions Taser Use on Unarmed Woman

[SacramentoRealtor]

Questions.... For all in support of this woman who was resisting Detainment NOT being Arrested. What do you think the police did before tasers were available? Do you think they just let people resist until they got tired? Do you think the police used to talk to them nicely until they stopped resisting? I would guess the a person who was resisting got the SHIT BEATEN OUT OF THEM until they were hog tied and thrown into the police car. What do you prefer? A taser or an ASS BEATING? Thank you

[SacramentoRealtor]

Oh come on. Do you think the police chased her and threw her to the ground? You actually think the police said "Your Black, Get your ass on the ground."? Did you look up the story on line? Did you see her interview? Did you do any other information gathering before you posted this? I did. I always do, the media is full of crap. If you want to just take one side of the story then you opinion means nothing. You can't ignore the fact that there was a dash cam. Did you know that? Hmmm

[pkemrin]

Just because she didn't sustain permanent or serious injuries doesn't mean it wasn't excessive. Tackling an innocent person is always excessive. Let alone following up by tasering them when they try to show you their receipt.

[mmmodafoca]

Whoa.. so thats what LiberalViewer Looks like..

[TearsOfWar1]

Wow...Not excessive for tasing an innocent women? Fuck you judicial system, and fuck you cops.

[SacramentoRealtor]

The ACLU should have better things to do, but they alway seem to waste time with this kind of bullshit news story. I guess the NAACP is going to be making a comment next.

Where was the NAACP or the ACLU when a small town in Alabama was building Apartments over a cemetery full of slaves and freed slaves? They did not come and help then, what the hell do they actually care about?

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor What does the cemetery that have to do with constiutional rights? The ACLU cares about civil liberties for all people it in the name. I can not answer about the cemetery because of your lack of info what I have found talks about ahistroical socitiey helping a man in Alabama save cemetery. What I love is that ACLU is there because a police officer used excessive force to detain an unarmed woman who was already on the ground that is why the ACLU is there.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck I am so tired of responding to people who have done ZERO homework on this womans complaint. Go and google "Andrea Boarman Tased Rancho Cordova" read everything you can find that describes the situation and get back to me. OR you can see a BUNCH of my comments below. I quote the police, because I do the work and not just believe the media hyped up crap.

As for the cemetery, it is done, the graves are built over. I am sure the ACLU could have done something. They asked them for help.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor Have a question for you? Where the hell is the dash cam video? If it proved the police in the right that would have been released the very next day after the incident.I also notice you talk about the fact that police were so caught up in deciding that the innocent woman was guilty. The real shoplifter got away.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck The camera footage is not going to be submitted unless it has to be submitted. When you see dash cam footage it was most likely used as evidence and then is available to be seen. The police said there was a dash cam used that got most of the footage on tape. If needed, they would release it in court. There is no way the police department is going to start releasing footage of everything that is taped and questioned. Take them to court and it will be there. But she has no case.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor Then stop using it as the magical answer to all. I have a feeling it does not prove what you think. It seems from what was reported that the police decided that she was guilty and they treated her as a criminal. When you read that two grown men were holding an unarmed woman down did you think that her moving may be do pain and trying to breath after first being in a chokehold?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck You can have a feeling that it does not prove what I think, but the fact is that she does not have one story on google anywhere except for Jan 17th-18th. There is nothing that says she has a lawyer, nothing that says she has filed paper work for a lawsuit and nothing that says she was a perfect angel through the whole situation and the cops just started beating her up. You did not see it, I did not see it, but if you want to believe that the cops beat her up over nothing then fine.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck Of course the shoplifter got away. That is not the point. The point is was this woman wrongfully zapped or not. If she was combative and had to be taken to the ground, as it has been stated and as she said her self "I squirmed" then she is going to get zapped if she does not listen. I really don't understand the issue here. If the police tell you (Debrmck) to stand in front of the car and don't move and you decide to move and sit on the curb because your tired...You might get a zap.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor @SacramentoRealtor No they were trying to arrest her.Ramos said she began resisting arrest when deputies tried to take her into custody. I notice to you find it acceptable for the police to commit brutality on a person. This is a woman who requested to prove her innocence at that moment with an officer refusing all evidence. She was never told to just stand in front of car. It appears guilt was assigned and there was a refusal by the police to change their mind.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck "They were detaining me. They told me that I couldn't leave. I told him, could he take me up to the store and ask the manager, ask the cashier? It wasn't me. And he, he refused," said Boarman. They were detaining her. Maybe she was under arrest for not complying and resisting, BUT she was originally being detained. Brutality.... Yes, if you do not listen to the police and you are combative then ZAP. So What. Why in the world is that a problem?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck Would you rather the police beat the crap out of people like they used to do before the taser? What would you rather have done to a loved one who is being held by the police and is combative? A taser or an as beating? Taser is pretty temporary. Let me guess... this is the part where you talk about the people who have died from being tased. Well every single officer is tased as training and they used to hog tie people after the beating and more of them died. So how about just listen.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor I want fair and accurate police that treat people with respect. That know the rights of their citzens and respects them. If the police officer had taken the reciept and escorted her back to the store and identifed her it would have been over. You talk about death rates a healthy police officer is tased one time without a person crushing them and you think it is the same thing. I love how you bring up death rates yet I am one that suppose to have done that.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck And.... I am pretty sure the police would like to be treated with respect and have people listen to them. I have been detained before. It was pretty simple. Our car matched a car that was said to be waving a gun in San Francisco. We got pulled over by about 3 cars. They said to get out of the car and stand in the back. Guess what, we did what we were told. They said sorry about that. Have a good night. What if we had resisted? Vocalized anger? Told them they had not business? We left.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor Vocalizing anger is not against the law. I am not giving away my rights as an american citizen because are police are not be trained correctly. You get respect when you give respect.When she offered her reciept he should have said thank you taken to the store confirmed and let her go instead he refused.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck I guess you don't want to listen to reason. You think she was taken to the ground for talking? I am bored now. You make no good points at all.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor You are refusing the very quotes of the police. He says that she became combative when they were arresting her for shoplifting. She was then placed in a chokehold and taken to the ground and then tasered. Get your timeline straight. You ar egetting bored because someone is using reason instead of giving away there rights as a citizen.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck You act as if people do not get mouthy with the police. I was pulled over for drunk driving and given a test in the seat of my car. What if I said..... "Who do you think you are? What the F@#$ did I do? This is Bulls@#$!!! " I was suspected of robbing my own house as I sat in front of it. What if... What if... What if....

Every single time I have to an issue with the police I am "Respectful" I do "What I am told" and I "Never talk back." Surprising that I have never been Zapped.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor If there is evidence of drunk driving and take a test it is over. But what if you are stopped and you offer to be tested and are refused. Then they get call from another police officer that say you match the description of a drunk driver so you are being taken in. Would you have been maybe a little upset?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck Now you are dreaming up crap about the police refusing to give you a drunk driving test. Come on........... Zzzzzzzz.........

This was fun for a little while, but you are getting off the subject and dreaming. Let's just forget it.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@SacramentoRealtor and the test I was given was a follow my finger test. But I still did as I was told.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor I am giving you an example of the situation from a different prespective, you fool. I never said that this has really happened I was using a parable.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck " If the police officer had taken the reciept and escorted her back to the store and identifed her it would have been over." She was verbally combative right from the beginning.

There is a way to investigate a scene. Do you think the place was surrounded with police? She was told to wait while the other officer was inside. You do not take a possible suspect back to the scene of a crime until the situation is stable. Maybe you need to watch "COPS" then tell me if you want that job.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor No I do not want the job but do want cops that respect their citizens rights.

[MyOverflow]

@SacramentoRealtor "She was verbally combative right from the beginning."

I'm guessing the first amendment means nothing?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@MyOverflow Oh boy.... Here we go with the first amendment crap. There are rights to voice your thoughts and then there is unnecessary, rude, out of hand and over the top. If the police, tell you to wait then you wait. If the police tell you to sit down then you sit down. If the police tell you to be quiet until things get sorted out then SHUT THE HELL UP. If you don't listen to the police, if you are combative with the police, if you resist the police YOU WILL LOSE EVERY TIME. And the Problem?

[0scottweise18]

@SacramentoRealtor It's quite a stretch to say that being "verbally combative" is grounds for being tasered, since being "verbally combative" does not mean she was not physically complying to the police (otherwise, it would not be "verbally combative", just "combative").

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck Everyone is stuck on the proof of innocence. She had a receipt and did not have the stolen stuff on her that is all the proof she needed. She just had to shut up and wait it out. It does not matte what the police told her to do she should have just done it quietly. PERIOD. She was not quiet, she did not listen, she did not shut up, she did not do anything she was supposed to so she got the consequence. PERIOD. Yes, she was innocent. She had the proof and they still held her. So what.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck It makes sense to me. You have a choice. You either listen to the police or you do not listen to the police. You either stay clam or you do not stay calm. You either stop resisting or you resist. You can go home once all this is cleared up or you get ZAPPED and cuffed and tossed in the back of the car and then they clear everything up. It is very simple. Just do as they say and let them do their job. She failed miserably at letting them do their job. Had she shut up, no issue.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor Had she shut up she would be in a squad car. Again they refused all offers to reenter the store for witnesses to prove innocence and refused to look at her reciept. She was at first wanting leave quickly to go see a movie afterward she was demanding to go into the store prove her innocence since she clearly saw they had already made up their mind.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck She was not ARRESTED. She was Detained. They wanted to get the whole story from inside and from outside. There were cops inside and cops outside. She was told to wait. She did not wait. She would not end up in a squat car because she had proof and the witnesses would most likely say she was the wrong person. All she had to do what SHUT UP and do as she was told. PERIOD. Explain to me EXACTLY what the police did wrong now that you know what she did wrong. Tell me all about it.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor The police chief is the one saying they were arresting her. He also the one saying that she did not resist till they decided to arrest her. He states that she was only loud and argumentive til they decided to take her in. You are all about reading what happened how could you miss that?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck I quoted all of that on here somewhere, I didn't miss it. BUT, the article I read says she was detained and not arrested. As I said before, she was probably "arrested" once she was being combative and obstructing an officer. We are going around and around. Tell me, what exactly should the police do with someone who will not do as they are told? If they do not stop doing whatever it is that the police say needs to stop, then what should the police do? Please give me the alternative.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor I gave you the alternative in the other reply. Are you saying the police chief is wrong?Ramos said "She began resisting arrest when deputies tried to take her into custody." Not the other way around.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck I am saying she was being detained and when she was combative she was under arrest. Once under arrest she was more combative and was taken to the floor and then zap. Why is this so hard to understand? You listen to the police or you will LOOSE. That is all there is to it. You respect authority or you will LOOSE. Do as you are told or you will LOOSE. Why is that so hard to comprehend? It would have been over if she just waited quietly with her proof. Oh no.... she missed her movie.

[SacramentoRealtor]

Do you all actually think this is the ENTIRE story? Come on....... She was asked to stand my the car, she was confrontational right from the beginning, the officers inside were getting the story from cashiers and told the officers outside to detain her. Once told they had to detain her she got even more angry and she was taken to the ground. Guess what? You get Tased! You either listen to the police or you get TASED Idiots. There is Dash Board Camera video!!! The police did nothing wrong.

[commie5561]

LIBERAL_VIEWER IS A MOTHER FUCKING BOSS!

[rdkitchens]

The cops tased an innocent woman and still claim the force they used was not excessive? Does any one else see the failure of logic in that statement??

[me001ist]

3-5 police in a stand off at a skate park with a 15 year old boy who was armed with a steak knife, apparentlly the boy wanted to commit suicde, he yeld and threatened the police so they shot and killed him, 5 or 6 fed police on a beach all opened fire and killed a man with a knife, really there has to be a better way there job is to be in harms way to protect people with there lives and bodies atleast it used to be know days they shoot first. I`d rather be hit with a TAZER than bullets.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@me001ist THANK YOU. Finally someone who can see through the bullshit media story that leaves out the facts.

[me001ist]

"the force they used that night was not exceive" it was the wrong person just admit when your wrong, or can police just walk around tasing people for no reason. I understand we need police and that they to want to be safe and go home to there families but are they getting dumber and more violent? is it easier to just tase and shoot people rather than do your job? police are here to protect people from each other and themselves if you dont want to do that get another job.

[VoidOnTuesday]

"The cops still say the MOST people killed by Tazers have some kind of pre-existing condition?" So... they were gonna die anyway??? Does that make it better??? How is this an argument FOR their side???

[TheWhiteRabbit1990]

@VoidOnTuesday better question would be why even mention that. Can the cops look at someone and tell if they have a preexisting condition that make the tasers more dangerous? How did they know she didn't have anything wrong with her.

[MrBigwong]

This is getting pretty typical.

Check out this PBS Frontline special: Are We Safer (Google it, the link won't work here). It appears the anti-terrorism complex was meant to be used on Americans, not the bad guys. Say hello to the police state.

[fg1234567892000]

Liberal Viewer is in this one.

[avatarmn]

Any force used on a random, innocent woman is excessive, I would say.

[chapstickfantasy]

how can the force not be excessive when it wasn't even the right person?

[cheat123]

i like that shes black

[Creznour]

lol "The force they used that night was not excessive"

Love how they don't even admit they've done something wrong.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@Creznour Do you actually think this is the ENTIRE story? Come on....... She was asked to stand my the car, she was confrontational right from the beginning, the officers inside were getting the story from cashiers and told the officers outside to detain her. Once told they had to detain her she got even more angry and she was taken to the ground. Guess what? You get Tased! You either listen to the police or you get TASED Idiots. There is Dash Board Camera video!!! The police did nothing wrong.

[exsinor]

The cops probably believe she is lucky they had a Taser with them. Otherwise, they would have to shoot her.

[teufeldritch]

@exsinor Being that she is black I would say she is indeed lucky they had tasers otherwise she would be dead. Cops loooooove shooting & killing black ppl.

[exsinor]

@teufeldritch Hell, In Idaho they shot a white guy in a big box store who had a butter knife a couple of years ago. They said they felt threatened.

[thetruthis9]

@teufeldritch lmaooooo....truth is the funniest medium of them all...

[Kokojin]

And police wonder why no one trust them, you shouldn't wonder you should know!

[SacramentoRealtor]

@Kokojin Do you actually think this is the ENTIRE story? Come on....... She was asked to stand my the car, she was confrontational right from the beginning, the officers inside were getting the story from cashiers and told the officers outside to detain her. Once told they had to detain her she got even more angry and she was taken to the ground. Guess what? You get Tased! You either listen to the police or you get TASED Idiots. There is Dash Board Camera video!!! The police did nothing wrong.

[djpob]

@SacramentoRealtor If you have them on the ground why is tasing necessary?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@djpob Let's say you were to detained, you didn't comply & you hit the ground BUT still you fight back, you were told to stop, you screamed, cursed, kicked, pushed, tried to get up, resisted everything..... Guess what the next step is.... ZAP!!!

Either you listen to the officer and do what you are told or ZAP!!! Do you actually think that before tasers everyone who resisted just eventually gave up and the police patiently waited? People who resisted in the past got a deserved ass beating.

[MyOverflow]

@SacramentoRealtor "Let's say you were to detained, you didn't comply & you hit the ground BUT still you fight back, you were told to stop, you screamed, cursed, kicked, pushed, tried to get up, resisted everything..... Guess what the next step is.... ZAP!!!"

So showing a receipt to disprove their claim that you're a thief is "not complying" and so they have every right to tackle you and choke you for not agreeing? Being attacked while being innocent, you're not allowed to defend yourself?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@MyOverflow Come on man. If you do not comply and get out of hand then tuff shit. You are under the assumption that she held out her receipt an officer looked at it and then told her "That is not good enough for me, get your ass on the ground." Do you really think that is what happened? The officers all said she was combative right from the beginning. If she had a receipt (and I am sure she did) do you think they would just let her go no questions asked before they had all the information?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@MyOverflow Continued......... There is no way in HELL that an officer who is called to a robbery is going to let anyone leave the scene after they show a receipt. Once they have all the information from the officers on the inside of the store and they have handle on the situation they will then let people leave the scene. Officers are lied to all damn day and they have been trained as to how to handle a robbery. There is a process, want to fight about it? ZAP and now your cuffed.

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor They were not assessing a situiation they admit they were arresting her for the crime. The use of the word robbery is also false by you. They called about shoplifting at no time was it ever mention that someone was threatened with harm. So stop bending the truth all the time officers lie on innocent people too.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck My mistake Shoplifting NOT Robbery. You are wrong to say they were arresting her..... "Once the deputies made the determination that they needed to detain her, because that's the information they were getting from other officers who were speaking to employees, she began to physically struggle with officers," Officer Jason Ramos said. I don't care if the police say I am being detained for Child Sexual Abuse, they will ALWAYS win. The smart thing to do when being detained is to be calm.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@MyOverflow AND...... There is a dash board cam that got most of this on video. There is no way in hell that she did not do something to end up on the ground.  If you actually think the media is telling you the whole story then you are mistaken. Did you see her interview? Did you bother to try and find her interview? She said "I did not not think I was resisting." What does that tell you? I hear.... "I was kind of being combative and unreasonable, but not that bad really." Tuff shit. ZAP

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor They refused to look at her receipt for what they accused her of stealing. They arresting an innocent woman for a crime she did not commit are you saying that you would not maybe pull you hand away? This is the problem with people that decide that there rights as citzens go out the window win a police officer walks by. How the hell is refusing to be arrested for a crime you did not commit and having the evidence on hand unreasonable?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck Would a white man walk in a Black neighborhood with the sign "Go back to Africa" held over his head? No, Because it is a STUPID ASS Thing to do. Would I resist arrest if I was told a little girl accused me of sexual molestation? NO. Because it would be a Stupid Ass thing to do. The police will ALWAYS win. She was being detained. Big deal.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck "They were detaining me. They told me that I couldn't leave. I told him, could he take me up to the store and ask the manager, ask the cashier? It wasn't me. And he, he refused." That is what she said. "(She was) continuing to struggle with the officer who was on the ground with her and that's when the determination was made that based on her continuing to fight, that a Taser was an appropriate deployment of force," Ramos said.

Did you see her interview?

[debrmck]

@SacramentoRealtor Do you hear what she is saying? I am starting to really wonder about this officer, She states that she asked to be taken back inside the store to prove her innocence and he refused. Do you not see the problem here?Look at what happen to this woman future after being charged for a crime she did not commit.wwwwkyt.com/home/headli­nes/101940388.html If you are detained and are innocent you want that proven at that second.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck There were officers inside the store and outside the store. She was only told to wait and was combative right from the beginning. Once the officers inside told the officers outside to detain her she got more combative. She was taken to the ground and still did not comply. ZAP. What is the problem? She was being detained NOT arrested. She was given a misdemeanor ticket for obstructing an officer.

Your link does not work.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck "I'm a small girl. If somebody is on top of me and they're hurting me, of course I'm gonna squirm. If that's resisting arrest, then I don't know," said Boarman.

She admits that she was "squirming". Do you think she was just being a little squirmy? I doubt it. It does not matter what you think, if the police say to stop, stand here, don't move, stop yelling, don't this/that..... Take your pick, then you either comply or you get ZAPPED. No One will ever win a fight with the police.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@debrmck Sacramento County Sheriff's Department spokesman Deputy Jason Ramos said Boarman was argumentative with deputies from the start. "She wasn't physically struggling, but she was very argumentative and very confrontational," Ramos said. "Once the deputies made the determination that they needed to detain her, because that's the information they were getting from other officers who were speaking to employees, she began to physically struggle with officers," Ramos said. I do the research.

[Kokojin]

@SacramentoRealtor And do you think that the abuses suffered by people at the hands of police are all untrue, and that there is never an officer who is in the wrong?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@Kokojin Of course not. But, when you have a dash board camera, all the officers involved saying the same thing and the "victim" saying, and I quote,"I didn't think I was resisting" . That tells me all I need to know. Of course officers have been wrong, there have been plenty of examples. BUT, how many zapped people make the news? Not many. Do you actually think they would have tased her if she was calm and did what she was told? Considering what she was told is to stand there and wait.

[Kokojin]

@SacramentoRealtor Yes I do, I do think that police would taze somebody who was calm.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@Kokojin Oh come on.............. I am sorry, I thought I was talking with someone who made use of common sense. Agree to disagree, goodbye.

[MyOverflow]

@SacramentoRealtor "OH NO! Look she isn't letting me choke her when I got mad that I got the wrong person! She isn't complying with my AUTHORITY.... ZAP!!!!"

[SacramentoRealtor]

@MyOverflow If you resist enough you will get chocked. If you do not stop resisting and they can not cuff you and get you in the car then ZAP. Where is the problem with that. You either listen or ZAP. Very simple. Anyone who is stupid enough to think that it is a good idea to fight with the police in anyway deserves what they get. If you're wrongly accused do you really think the best idea is to fight the police right then and there? Guess what.... ZAP. Or would you rather be dead?

[FrostbittenWolf]

@SacramentoRealtor

Skirt around it all you like, cops are way too trigger happy with that cute little toy erroneously labeled "Less than Lethal." Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't she on the ground when she was tazed? You going to tell me the fucking point of using a weapon on someone who is on the ground? Or did they drop all pretext, try to execute her and thought that they were reaching for their handgun?

[SacramentoRealtor]

@FrostbittenWolf Sure, the police trigger happy, don't take into account the 1,000's of people who resist arrest and never get tased. If the police are able to get control of someone then there is no need for the taser. So what about all the people who fight the police. Are they not at fault? What do you think the police should do? Do you know there is dash cam footage? Did you bother to look up the story or her interview? I did. If you're told to wait here, then shut the hell up and wait.

[FrostbittenWolf]

@SacramentoRealtor

We're talking about the police tasing an innocent who was on the ground. Were you an eyewitness yourself?

No? So far all you've demonstrated is that you're someone who would let the cops get away with murder. We're looking at a case of police brutality, not a case of "Did they go to the taser too early."

[SacramentoRealtor]

@FrostbittenWolf Sacramento County Sheriff's Department spokesman Deputy Jason Ramos said Boarman was argumentative with deputies from the start. "She wasn't physically struggling, but she was very argumentative and very confrontational," Ramos said. "Once the deputies made the determination that they needed to detain her, because that's the information they were getting from other officers who were speaking to employees, she began to physically struggle with officers," Ramos said.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@FrostbittenWolf "They were detaining me. They told me that I couldn't leave. I told him, could he take me up to the store and ask the manager, ask the cashier? It wasn't me. And he, he refused." That is what she said. "(She was) continuing to struggle with the officer who was on the ground with her and that's when the determination was made that based on her continuing to fight, that a Taser was an appropriate deployment of force," Ramos said.

Did you see her interview?Do you do any homework?

[FrostbittenWolf]

@SacramentoRealtor

You still aren't helping your case. They were not in danger, she had no weapon, didn't attack them, they had no cause to pull out the taser.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@FrostbittenWolf Then you have NO idea what procedure is when you have a person who is resisting. What do you think the police did before tasers were available? Do you think they just let people resist until they got tired? Do you think the police used to talk to them nicely until they stopped resisting? I would guess that a person who was resisting got the SHIT BEATEN OUT OF THEM until they were hog tied and thrown into the police car. What do you prefer? A taser or an ASS BEATING? Answer That.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@FrostbittenWolf Are you or are you NOT aware that there is dash cam footage? Did you or did you NOT do any other investigation into this matter on your own? The story was everywhere on Jan. 17th and 18th. Now there is nothing new to be found. Nothing at all. You know why? Because she has no case, no lawyer will take her on and there is a dash cam that shows proof that she was in the wrong. Do your Homework. If you still think she was wrongly Zapped then your are not being rational. brutality...

[FrostbittenWolf]

@SacramentoRealtor

Do your own fucking homework. There was no threat, she was outnumbered and on the ground, unarmed, and not behaving violently. Someone not being cooperative is not grounds to use a weapon, you only break out a taser if you're in danger.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@FrostbittenWolf Just as I thought. You have not done any extra work and have come up with your conclusions based on the VERY little you know about the situation. You can not answer whether you know about the dash cam either because you know you did not know about it.

You just keep living under that rock of limited information and I will do homework and NOT just believe everything I hear from the media. People like you annoy me, you have your thoughts and nothing to back them up with. Sad....

[SacramentoRealtor]

@FrostbittenWolf You did not answer ONE question. Just answer me this question.......

Do you think the police used to talk to them nicely until they stopped resisting? I would guess that a person who was resisting got the SHIT BEATEN OUT OF THEM until they were hog tied and thrown into the police car. What do you prefer? A taser or an ASS BEATING?

OR let me put it this way for you. What do you prefer for a loved one who is on the ground resisting, yelling and fighting? ZAP or Ass Beating?

[FrostbittenWolf]

@SacramentoRealtor

Oi, prick, do you see that question?

I don't. I saw an e-mail asking it, but your comment didn't appear on the video when i moved to reply to it.

And the answer is NEITHER YOU DUMB BASTARD. The fact that you can make those statements and not see something wrong is highly disturbing.

[SacramentoRealtor]

@FrostbittenWolf The fact that I have told you what actually happened and you still see no reason for the police to Zap someone vs. giving them an ass beating is pathetic.

Have you noticed that every time I type something it is filled with points and information and you have said little to nothing and you have been insulting. I think we are not equally yoked. Meaning..... (just in case you don't understand that) I am obviously more intelligent and you are not worth dealing with.

Bye.

[FrostbittenWolf]

@SacramentoRealtor

Neither option is acceptable. The police were not in danger, they had no reason to use force.  You have not been making points, all you've been doing is trying to cover for people who turned a weapon on an innocent woman with no reason.

[sidiggy1]

I knew driving while black was a citable offense, but had never heard of the right to use force for suspicion of shopping while black.

[drummerboy54100]

the only good cop is a dead cop.

[UkulelePeter]

"The force they used that night was not excessive."

Did they try asking nicely for the woman to stop? 'Cause, seeing she did nothing wrong, that would have probably worked.

[TrooperCX]

@UkulelePeter OWNED

[SacramentoRealtor]

@UkulelePeter Oh come on. Do you think the police chased her and threw her to the ground? You actually think the police said "Your Black, Get your ass on the ground."? Did you look up the story on line? Did you see her interview? Did you do any other information gathering before you posted this? I did. I always do, the media is full of crap. If you want to just take one side of the story then you opinion means nothing. You can't ignore the fact that there was a dash cam. Did you know that? Hmmm

[nickst0ne]

So, the cops tazed a regular shopper, and judge that this use of force was not excessive ?

Either we lack context (did the woman act inapropriately towards the police?) or some cops deserve a serious slap on the back of the hand. Tazers should be used only when other methods are bound to fail or expose people to a threat.

[CUTWEST]

lol, LiberalViewer.