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  • it is extremely good entertainment, but i don't think he should be given credit for performing any other kind of art other than trickery

  • I don't give a damn what people say, whether it's fake, people are paid, etc. This is damn good entertainment.

  • And at the end of the show it said she died driving home from filming.

    so i guess that bad luck she collected did its job :(

    Or the name of the actress had to die?

    damn i hate tv shows where i just wanna be there myself to see if its real

  • Not one of his better tricks, pretty sloppy, really -- but a great setup piece for gag at the end of the show.

  • at 3:58 right before she throws the dart notice how the wall above the board is clean. Follow the dart with your eyes very carefully and notice that it will eventually stop and there will appear to be a light mark above the board where the dart stops. A new frame where the dart is already in the board will appear shortly after.

    Since they made no effort to remove the frame where the dart is still mid-air I think they are trying to show you how most tv is fake. Derren likes to do that.

  • @micahwllmsn Bravo, bravo, bravo on your keen observation. Damn, I had to check that again. It really also did look like the card moved to the left

  • HEHE... 2:08 and 2:14 - her blinfold is covering a larger protion of her nose than at 1:59 or 2:16

    Isn't video editing great? Well... when you're doing it right of course.

  • Why should this harm his credibility. Camera editing is a method to achieve a magic effect that is just as legit as any other method. He didn't lie either. After the camera moves behind the woman there is no cuts or editing anymore (assuming that is even the method)

  • the blindfold moving on/off her nose is a really obvious continuity error

    totally ruins the credibility of derren brown for me : (

  • Yeah the gap around the queen of hearts changes between when she hits it and they zoom in, to when they walk up to it and talk about the circle. They definitely removed it and put it back on.

  • WTF

  • Yes, it does indeed seem like she is an actor. Like others have pointed out, the gap between the cards is different in some scenes. The blindfold covering/not covering her nose etc. The part where she tells which card she is going to hit, is actually shot afterwards. They just (sloppily) put the blindfold back on and edited the footage.

    To me this kinda destroyes his credability I'm sad to say. If he's using an actor and edited footage here, how many of his other tricks do aswell?

  • I think he just subliminally suggested the queen of hearts before hand. Then he later plugged strong magnets on the back where the queen of hearts was. Anyone else agree?

  • pattern breaks are conducive to creative moments ... A pre-arranged AH HA ! moment.

  • "nevermind, walk on the cracks" rofl

  • Tried and true proven fact that women are most likely to pick the queen of hearts when you ask them for a card. That part is not difficult. And it's possible he filmed multiple times until she hit the card she decided.... thus the camera cut. Hell, 'the system' was based entirely on probability and only filming the things that worked out... or only showing you those occurrences.

  • Derren Brown is incredibly good.

  • *shrugs* I don't think this is fake. Derren Brown doesn't do fakes. What he's probably done is observed her, predicted what card she would throw toward and how hard she would throw the dart, which hand she would throw it, etc. It's similar to, say, the one where he predicts a certain person's movements.... it's possible, it's just not luck; it's pure observational skill on Derren's part.

  • ofc you think it's fake if you haven't experienced this...

  • nevermind the cuts, angles or curves.

    just keep an eye on the dart's flight or path.

    you'll see the real "trick"

  • fake

  • he started clapping even when she hadnt taken the blindfold off so she didnt even know if she had hit it yet

  • rope. magnet. clever editing. easy trick, Derren. not your best.

  • cough cough ... magnet

  • another interesting thing to consider is the fact that we were shown from the back (where the 2D of the camera will not reveal completely the path of the dart) instead of the angled more towards the side to see the dart's path fully and determine the card on the board

  • From 2:15 to 2:18 we can CLEARLY see where the video is cut short and the camerman disappears abruptly. An obvious video cut. He had the cameraman move in front to hide the cut more easily. The actress' verbal, random "prediction" card moment was taped AFTER she threw the dart. Then the order is switched and...voila! But the crappy cut at 2:15 is the dead giveaway. :) And the actress...Chris Angel has used actors too.

  • At 2:15 it cuts to that camera man's shot. An obvious cut, but not really a suspicious one :P

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  • the gaps seem to change but they dont, its just the camera angle..

    such a editing trick seems like too dumb of a thing to do for a guy like him..

  • the system

  • Thats not how a dart flies!

  • 2:17 the cameraman moves infront of camera 1 and the picture jumps to another clip

  • I think he tried it with like a bagillion people untill get got a perfect video.... sounds like Derren... very patient!

  • yeah i think he revealed that technique in the system

  • its what i thought first but this guy here is right, check out. 2:40 vs 3:19

    he simply edited the video sequence and shes a paid actress.

  • Observant, but not observant enough. Notice how when the is on the left, ALL the gaps are on the left, and when the camera is on the right, ALL the gaps are on the right. This is because all the cards have a slight curve in them. The camera angle makes it seem like the gaps are moving when they aren't. Plus, the queen of hearts is very likely to be declared a card to hit, and is placed on the board in a position that a right-handed person is likely to hit.

  • Still very entertaining XD

  • Sorry . . . no hypnosis, NLP or magnets here.

    Just show biz.

    She's a paid actress.

    Her blindfold moves on then off her nose between video shots.

    The card prediction clip from 2:08 to 2:15 was shot after the dart throw and moved up in time to before the throw.

    The gap between the Queen of Hearts and the side cards changed since they removed the card and drew the circle on it's back after the dart throw and not before. 2:40 vs 3:19

    All video editing.

  • Oh wow, you're right about 2:40 and 3:19...the card shifted over to the left, making a gap on the wrong side. Lol, exposed. Damn, what a bummer.

  • @lunameatball using magnet on the force card ... ? Maybe

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  • @lunameatball Good catch. Although there is still a possibility that she is not an actress. After she threw the dart he could have hypnotized her to think that she did actually select the queen of hearts. He does something similar to Simon Pegg in another video about what he wanted for his birthday. You notice that it changes shots right after he says "have a look", there could be a gap there where he hypnotized her. Then he started the next shot by repeating "have a look" to make it fit.

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  • @lunameatball damn man, good catch, I am amazed that you noticed that stuff!

  • @lunameatball well yea. but don't explain it. Let em wonder.

  • @lunameatball she thows a dart pretty well blind folded

  • @lunameatball

    great observation I applaud you

  • @lunameatball at the beginning of all of Derren's shows is a disclaimer stating that all of the participants are not paid actors, if this is not so, then it would be easily discovered to be fraud. You have no evidence.

  • this is the most incredible movie with darren i have seen

    i really impressed by him and his skills

  • My theory is this:

    1. She throws the dart into a random card blindfolded.

    2. Hypnosis makes her believe itøs the right card even though it could be any card up there.

    3. Derren get her to sleep while drawing a circle around the tip of the dart. The card goes back up.

    4. She wins 50 pounds

    5. She sleeps and forget what just happened.

  • 6. She's blindfoldede (second shot). In her mind she goes back to before she threw the dart.

    7. She predicts the right card - The Queen of Hearts - which is easy beacause she has already hit it. But she doesn't remember that.

    8. She sleeps again and Derren tells her what to remember before he wakes her up.

    I believe that there were no magnets involved. Only hypnosis and timeline editing.

  • It must be something like magnet, did you see some kind of band/strip behind the card? It wasn´t there behind other cards...

  • that strip is the sticky strip sticking all the cards to the board.

  • There is absolutly no way an kind of electro magnet or normal magnet could attract the dart. Put it this way as you double the distance, the power the magnet has decreases 8 fold. It will get VERY weak VERY quickly. If there was a magnet by the wall the metal cage on the bubbly would have been attracted to it anyway and flew accross the room

  • her dart disappears and a dart from the ceiling is shot directly into the card. She choose that card because of priming

  • I wonder how many times they had to shoot that to get it right... kind of like the 10 heads in a row if you all have seen that video.

  • this guy scares meee!!!

    IT HAS2B FAKE ~!

  • i think that the shot from behind is not really her (maybe that person has eye holes in the blindfold?). When they did it with her they had sum1 take her dart and put a different one on her card. she sees where it landed and they film her reaction. they mix the fake vid with the real one of her and it looks real. the circle thing, however, i dunno how that's done.

  • It would have to be a heck of a strong magnet - I tried using a couple of strong neodymium magnets behind a dartboard - and there's no way they could exert enough force from that distance to affect the dart enough. Magnetic force falls off as inverse cube.

  • now she will be breaking all the windows she sees.

  • Magnet??? No way. What magnet is that strong to pull it into the circle? The only thing I can think of is an MRI machine behind the wall, or some other million dollar contraption.

  • it does indeed look like a magnet is involved.

    brilliant trick none the less.

  • true, the blindfold moves, that's bullshit

  • Check how the blindfold moves from over her nose to not over her nose in different shots. Fake.

  • even though when she throws it its all in one shot?

  • No it doesn't? You're fake.

  • Good spot on that.

  • lol

  • It's done using an electro-magnet.

    Don't tell Derren I told you though.

  • You can see the way the dart flies that it's a magnet. It starts off all over the place then flies straight into the card. He must have just said something to make sure she aimed for the Queen of Hearts.

  • That's really stupid.

  • How the HELL was that done?? That was astonishing. I've tried to think this through logically, and I can't work this one out.

  • magnet

  • wtf guys! this guy is GOOD

  • better think how it can be done ;-)

  • @alexisnot it doesnt realy matter, does it? i dont care how he does it. i know it's a trick, but derren brown has some masterly tricks up his sleeve!

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  • @snannert: @snannert: Obvious camera cut at 2:15 to 2:18. Easiest camera trick ever. I learned that editing technique in my first filmmaking class. Spielberg did that a lot in Jaws for the beach scenes with people walking around, so it would look fluid. You are so focused on the main action, you just assume that the shot is continuous.

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