This is a so called hit that really was not a hit. They where going for the puck and Scandella got there first and he want to push him away (with should and elbow) but he was a bit further away and the elbow hit is face and not the chest. I am not saying what happened was not bad and should not be suspended for it, but there was no intent!
It's good to see that Patrice Cormier had a postitve influence on the game, nice fucking hits, that kind of play will turn these pussy players into real hockey man like George Laraque and his 12-inch monster
I see, so if you have your head down or you reach for the puck, it's geen light to "Finish your check." Even if that means you knock Doyle out, and rip his face for stiches. It's a fucking headshot! "There kind of a no-no. Are you kidding me. They're the biggest problem in hockey today. Elbow to the head. 15 games is not enough!
He didnt even CHECK him. He went to the puck and the other guy just didnt look where he was going. WATCH HE GODAMN PLAY KIDS. This has nothing to do with the Cormier hit.
you should not be putting yourself in that position its just like a hit from behind if you turn at the last minute it is not the other guys fault for hitting you. Its the same thing with lunging for the puck you are putting the other guy in an awkward situation he is already heading to hit you. Look its hard to tell with replays its slowed down and you arent right in the action, it is easy to make a call on a play from off the ice try putting yourself in his skates.
As long as we're all one-upping each other, the French aren't a race, they're a nationality, or, at most, a culture. Just sayin'. Anyway, I don't know how you give a kid 15 games based on that video. Shots against the head are kind of a no-no these days, though. That, and concussions are no joke. Lindros still can't remember where he parked his car in New York in 2004. Not that I'm complaining, or anything.
It depends what you classify as a race in a modern sense there is no such thing as races, but if you look at history a race is defined as the physical features commonly seen as indicating race are salient visual traits such as skin color, cranial or facial features and hair texture. In this sense a race can be whatever you want it to be. So in saying that bashing the French is racist is a completely rational statement.
Next time you try to make yourself look smart on the internet, proofread what you typed before you click, "post comment." Also, congratulations on knowing how to navigate Wikipedia. You're a superstar. Keep up the awesome work.
Its youtube not university I do not need to proofread read my comments and yes I did get the definition from Wikipedia its alot quicker and more accurate then making one up myself, and yes I know that Wikipedia is not extremely accurate but mane pages such as that are accurate enough. All I am saying is that the French can be classified as a race.
french peppers need to shut the fuck up and go back to france, YOU LIVE IN FUCKING QUEBEC, THAT'S NOT FRANCE, GET YOUR MIND RIGHT AND GET A REALITY CHECK YOU FRENCH PEPPER FUCKS
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Yet Danthemaniac watches Baseball and Football. One league is full of cheaters and beaners while the other is full of fucking soon to be jailed idiots and niggers.
C est just des petits cons qui veulent de lattention qui veulent se voir dans les nouvelles jler hais les ostie de show off a la crosby jouer au hockey caliss respecter vos adversaire
Fucking another dirty fucking frenchman move, why don't these fucking retards play in a league where that happens you get your fucking head fucking kicked in on the ice and off, Fucking FIFI!
french acadians and quebecers are two different people. go read a book.
funny how all the americans or canadians that are saying "dirty french" probably dont have a fucking clue what they're being racist again. ignorance 101.
How is this any worse than the Cormier hit? Either suspend him indefinitely too or suspend Scandella for the remainder of the season. Giving Cormier special treatment because he's a 'better' player is bullshit. Both shots are disgusting but I just hate hypocrisy and double standards.
c'est évident à voir que scandella jouait la puck ... j'suis pas un fan de hockey junior , mais c'est ''facile'' à voir que le coup était pas voulu , ou ''prémédité'' il jouait la puck..
PLEASE DONT READ THIS. YOU WLL GTE KISSED BY THE NEAREST FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF UR LIFE. TOMARROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF UR LIFE . HOWEVER IF U DONT POST THIS. somthing bad will happen. NOW THAT UVE STARTIN READING DIS DUNT STOP THIS IS SO SCARY. SEND THIS TO 5 VIDEOS IN 143 MINUTES WHEN UR DONE PRESS 46 AND UR CRUSHES NAME WILL APER ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS SO SCARY IT REALLY WORKS!!
Players in general need to be more aware of not only their surroundings but also themselves. This crap didn't happen so often years ago, because the players had more respect for each other then. This is ridiculous.
I BET NONE OF YOU RETARDS PLAY HOCKEY. HOCKEY IS A FAST GAME. THINGS HAPPEN SUCH AS THESE HITS.
all you people saying he should of had his head up, in the game of hockey its impossible to keep your head up 100 percent of the time i dont care who you are.
@5colton1 EXACTLY!!! i play triple a hockey and stuff like this happens. u cant keep ur head up all the time, and when ur head is down ur gonna get hit. this hit is unnacceptable cus u cant elbow someone in the face, but if ur head is down ur more than likly gunna get hit.
yo fucking sensfan123432 get a fucking life you've written like 6 comments. you definatly know nothing about hockey being a sens fan go fuck yourself!
i agree it makes me so mad but i think cormiers hit was intentional cuz he did the pretty much exact same thing to the swedish player in the world juinors
stop bashing those kind of hit same as the patrice cormier hit, its a high intensity game and u got to keep your head up, Durette has his head in his pants, scandella has to take his man down its part of the game, other than that scandella might of had been beaten and might of had been scored on the play who knows, so i find punishment too severe and they should punish guys with there heads down
You are dumb. He flies in there with a giant elbow to the face. Nothing about that is proper hockey. Are you saying he couldn't have stopped the man with a proper body check? Get real you bum.
how can u call that giant r u blind it was nothing compared to the cormier elbow. yes that kinda of play shouldnt be part of the game but if Durette hadnt had his head between his knees the elbow wouldnt have touched him. He is as much at fault as Scandella for this. all he got was a cut lip its hockey suck it up
so you think that a shoulder to the head wouldnt of made the accident worst? he had his head down maybe he could of avoid it with his head up or maybe his elbow would of just hit him on the shoulder but even with a shoulder i swear Durette would of had same chance of suffering his injury or maybe worst you never know
what those hits are not needed..i understand what your saying but an elbow like that is uncalled for.. if he would have cheched him no problem but that elbow was intentional and was not needed at all.
(continued) Other than suspensions, the only other option is the legal system getting involved - is that what we want as hockey players? Imagine what kind of pandora's box will be open then? Crosscheck to the head = assault and batter charges? Cops waiting for you after the game to arrest you? The public is going to start demanding it soon if these KIDS don't turn this around - and what happens when the public freaks out? Knee jerk reactions...by that, I mean police charges.
how ignorant are u to call for charges on things that happen in the game. yes attempts to injure should be investigated but hockey is a high speed game and the contact will be violent if the other guy didnt have his head down the hit would be no worse than ony other one during the course of a game
the dude's elbow (pad) smashed his visor before he got to his face THEN smashed his face. Ask yourself how much force must one use to smash a visor then have enough force to continue through it and bust up his face. Then ask yourself it this is what the game of hockey is about. This hit (like the other ones lately) goes ABOVE hockey..... keep suspending for life and maybe the KIDS will get the hint
This is nothing compared to what Dale Hunter and Ulf Samuelsson did. The only difference is you were allowed to shit kick somebody for pulling this crap.
Nowadays, instead of that, the inconsistant refs are supposed to give them 2 minutes. If I didnt love this game, Id hate it.
Fucking kids in the Q. Figure your shit out. There is a reason the Whl hasn't been involved in any of these incidents. Too many boys out east, not enough men.
not even close that was a clear elbow and richards was a shoulder check to the head something not against the rules. if ur going to say something get your facts right
bite me ur probably just as dumb as this person thinking one hit makes a player a goon right. if u or the other guy actually knew anything about hockey u wouldnt be out to pigeon hole a player for 1 play. and hmm want country bases there thoughts of a country based on the acts of individuals, oh right the states so stfu
coup de coudre de fif !!!
rouxtangclan 1 year ago
coup de coudre de fif !
rouxtangclan 1 year ago
This is a so called hit that really was not a hit. They where going for the puck and Scandella got there first and he want to push him away (with should and elbow) but he was a bit further away and the elbow hit is face and not the chest. I am not saying what happened was not bad and should not be suspended for it, but there was no intent!
Relic00 2 years ago
It's good to see that Patrice Cormier had a postitve influence on the game, nice fucking hits, that kind of play will turn these pussy players into real hockey man like George Laraque and his 12-inch monster
MILFgrinder 2 years ago
on t'aime quand même Marco... nous avons tous que le coup n'était pas prémidité....!
sing10andb15ball 2 years ago
@sing10andb15ball
ben oui... son coude s'est levé par magie.
criss de 2 de quotient... quelqu'un a du t'en donner un coup de coude à tête quand t'es né toé...
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
I see, so if you have your head down or you reach for the puck, it's geen light to "Finish your check." Even if that means you knock Doyle out, and rip his face for stiches. It's a fucking headshot! "There kind of a no-no. Are you kidding me. They're the biggest problem in hockey today. Elbow to the head. 15 games is not enough!
vtleaffan1 2 years ago
He didnt even CHECK him. He went to the puck and the other guy just didnt look where he was going. WATCH HE GODAMN PLAY KIDS. This has nothing to do with the Cormier hit.
inasafeplace 2 years ago
you should not be putting yourself in that position its just like a hit from behind if you turn at the last minute it is not the other guys fault for hitting you. Its the same thing with lunging for the puck you are putting the other guy in an awkward situation he is already heading to hit you. Look its hard to tell with replays its slowed down and you arent right in the action, it is easy to make a call on a play from off the ice try putting yourself in his skates.
joshfaryn 2 years ago
As long as we're all one-upping each other, the French aren't a race, they're a nationality, or, at most, a culture. Just sayin'. Anyway, I don't know how you give a kid 15 games based on that video. Shots against the head are kind of a no-no these days, though. That, and concussions are no joke. Lindros still can't remember where he parked his car in New York in 2004. Not that I'm complaining, or anything.
irishhammer317 2 years ago
It depends what you classify as a race in a modern sense there is no such thing as races, but if you look at history a race is defined as the physical features commonly seen as indicating race are salient visual traits such as skin color, cranial or facial features and hair texture. In this sense a race can be whatever you want it to be. So in saying that bashing the French is racist is a completely rational statement.
joshfaryn 2 years ago
Next time you try to make yourself look smart on the internet, proofread what you typed before you click, "post comment." Also, congratulations on knowing how to navigate Wikipedia. You're a superstar. Keep up the awesome work.
irishhammer317 2 years ago
Its youtube not university I do not need to proofread read my comments and yes I did get the definition from Wikipedia its alot quicker and more accurate then making one up myself, and yes I know that Wikipedia is not extremely accurate but mane pages such as that are accurate enough. All I am saying is that the French can be classified as a race.
joshfaryn 2 years ago
WHat was the little kid doing. I see nothing wrong here. 15 games? I wouldnt even give a 2 minute penalty.
inasafeplace 2 years ago
im with yo uthe kid put his head down to reach for the puck and scandella just finished his hit
ecricket4 2 years ago
you must be kiddin
pilonator 2 years ago
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misianoau 2 years ago
french peppers need to shut the fuck up and go back to france, YOU LIVE IN FUCKING QUEBEC, THAT'S NOT FRANCE, GET YOUR MIND RIGHT AND GET A REALITY CHECK YOU FRENCH PEPPER FUCKS
Yeeuhhhhh 2 years ago
Racism = Fear + ignorance
So sad...
anti8imbeciles 2 years ago
racist basterd
misianoau 2 years ago
hockey is the greatest fuckin sport
theunownz 2 years ago
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ThaKilluminatiDon 2 years ago
Yet Danthemaniac watches Baseball and Football. One league is full of cheaters and beaners while the other is full of fucking soon to be jailed idiots and niggers.
c0medyClub 2 years ago
Yea, you're mother got boned by niggers and beaners...all at the same time. =)
danthemaniac 2 years ago
u suck danthefaggot
theunownz 2 years ago
@theunownz You suck at spelling "unknown" and your mother sucks black cock.
danthemaniac 2 years ago
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Hockey fucking blows. Gayest sport of all time.
danthemaniac 2 years ago
you're retarded.
bidaly2 2 years ago
what do you think is fun, suckin your own dick in yer basement, hockey is for real men, u bitch
theunownz 2 years ago
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fukodesu1 2 years ago
how the hell did his stick fly so far is what I want to know
HungOverGargoyle 2 years ago
C est just des petits cons qui veulent de lattention qui veulent se voir dans les nouvelles jler hais les ostie de show off a la crosby jouer au hockey caliss respecter vos adversaire
whitycrip 2 years ago
i am all for frenchies but comon man, put it in languages that we can all understand,
french fries and croissants are really good though
theunownz 2 years ago
neither of those things are french.
french fries are from belgium
croissants are from austria.
IntrebuloN 2 years ago
Fucking another dirty fucking frenchman move, why don't these fucking retards play in a league where that happens you get your fucking head fucking kicked in on the ice and off, Fucking FIFI!
guiness75 2 years ago
All respects to you for calling a bad hit.Calling it a "dirty fucking frenchman move"? Fuck your racist ass.
shanelizard 2 years ago
LOL @shanelizard.
French is not a race you dumb shit! hahahaha!
imbetterthanu2 2 years ago
technicality.
fuck his prejudiced ass.
IntrebuloN 2 years ago
my bad.i should've said "prejudiced".are you still proud of being a closed-minded fuck-nut?
shanelizard 2 years ago
@guiness75
"Fucking another dirty fucking frenchman move"
1. patrice cormier is from new brunswick
2. marco scandella... look at his fucking name, he' obviously not french genetically
3. you're an ignorant retard.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
patrice cormier is from a french community in new brunswick. Also new brunswick is the only officially bilingual province in canada
fitzy11nb 2 years ago
@fitzy11nb
french acadians and quebecers are two different people. go read a book.
funny how all the americans or canadians that are saying "dirty french" probably dont have a fucking clue what they're being racist again. ignorance 101.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
*against
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
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Viperstrike28 2 years ago
this season is really getting ridiculous......
it's just one after another........
kcp77777 2 years ago 3
Durette had that coming to him. who the hell does he think he is going for the puck?
agentmikeyman 2 years ago
lol
kullprit 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA
tomlights19 2 years ago
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RexxarHunter 2 years ago
you're missing out on one of the best sports in the world then.
SquatDeadPress 2 years ago
@RexxarHunter
hockey sucks well you should play it and see if it suck bitch
JuLiAnRoQuE 2 years ago
oh whats that? u want to suck my dick?
RexxarHunter 2 years ago
How is this any worse than the Cormier hit? Either suspend him indefinitely too or suspend Scandella for the remainder of the season. Giving Cormier special treatment because he's a 'better' player is bullshit. Both shots are disgusting but I just hate hypocrisy and double standards.
marijumanji 2 years ago
@marijumanji indefinately means they havent decided, it doesnt mkean itll be longer than cormier
NickPerryman18 2 years ago
I think he just lead the guy a bit too much and tried to compensate at the last second. Shit happens sometimes when your committed to a hit.
PontoonTeek 2 years ago
I bet if Canada won the world juniors non of this cormier and scandella action would happen, don't bag on me i'm Canadian too.
militia45 2 years ago
good point, im canadian too and i think a lot of canadians took the loss like a buncha bitches
executionair 2 years ago
@executionair
no we didnt we dont get angry all the time like americans
Ovechkin1726 2 years ago
c'est évident à voir que scandella jouait la puck ... j'suis pas un fan de hockey junior , mais c'est ''facile'' à voir que le coup était pas voulu , ou ''prémédité'' il jouait la puck..
Xeutch 2 years ago
@Xeutch
"mais c'est facile à voir que le coup était pas voulu , ou prémédité, il jouait la puck"
lol t un esti d'attardé mental, son coude s'est pas levé par magie ti con.
joyfulvulture 2 years ago
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PLEASE DONT READ THIS. YOU WLL GTE KISSED BY THE NEAREST FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF UR LIFE. TOMARROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF UR LIFE . HOWEVER IF U DONT POST THIS. somthing bad will happen. NOW THAT UVE STARTIN READING DIS DUNT STOP THIS IS SO SCARY. SEND THIS TO 5 VIDEOS IN 143 MINUTES WHEN UR DONE PRESS 46 AND UR CRUSHES NAME WILL APER ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS SO SCARY IT REALLY WORKS!!
93Toronto93 2 years ago
@ 93Toronto93
.. You're from Toronto, of course. Leafs sucks and so do you.
Waklash7 2 years ago
Players in general need to be more aware of not only their surroundings but also themselves. This crap didn't happen so often years ago, because the players had more respect for each other then. This is ridiculous.
msterscary 2 years ago
QMJHL need to keep their fucking elbows down, this is getting ridiculous.
Wodey25 2 years ago 4
That one wasn't his fault dude.
eticom1 2 years ago
I BET NONE OF YOU RETARDS PLAY HOCKEY. HOCKEY IS A FAST GAME. THINGS HAPPEN SUCH AS THESE HITS.
all you people saying he should of had his head up, in the game of hockey its impossible to keep your head up 100 percent of the time i dont care who you are.
5colton1 2 years ago
@5colton1 EXACTLY!!! i play triple a hockey and stuff like this happens. u cant keep ur head up all the time, and when ur head is down ur gonna get hit. this hit is unnacceptable cus u cant elbow someone in the face, but if ur head is down ur more than likly gunna get hit.
Ideazonqa 2 years ago
yo fucking sensfan123432 get a fucking life you've written like 6 comments. you definatly know nothing about hockey being a sens fan go fuck yourself!
RavneetB 2 years ago
Your trying to start shit on youtube. now who doesnt have a life?
Div1Divers 2 years ago
ouachhhhh
la LHJMQ est rendue dégueulasse
ijoly 2 years ago
the hockyu checks are not so good now
this is bad and not nice to do forf hockye plyaers
TheJohnblaze22 2 years ago
what?
core333 2 years ago
i agree it makes me so mad but i think cormiers hit was intentional cuz he did the pretty much exact same thing to the swedish player in the world juinors
aidanb17 2 years ago
stop bashing those kind of hit same as the patrice cormier hit, its a high intensity game and u got to keep your head up, Durette has his head in his pants, scandella has to take his man down its part of the game, other than that scandella might of had been beaten and might of had been scored on the play who knows, so i find punishment too severe and they should punish guys with there heads down
toyotacaro 2 years ago
You are dumb. He flies in there with a giant elbow to the face. Nothing about that is proper hockey. Are you saying he couldn't have stopped the man with a proper body check? Get real you bum.
TBMonkeys 2 years ago
how can u call that giant r u blind it was nothing compared to the cormier elbow. yes that kinda of play shouldnt be part of the game but if Durette hadnt had his head between his knees the elbow wouldnt have touched him. He is as much at fault as Scandella for this. all he got was a cut lip its hockey suck it up
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago
so you think that a shoulder to the head wouldnt of made the accident worst? he had his head down maybe he could of avoid it with his head up or maybe his elbow would of just hit him on the shoulder but even with a shoulder i swear Durette would of had same chance of suffering his injury or maybe worst you never know
toyotacaro 2 years ago
his head was down so its his fault nice logic you got there
YouJussGotCurbed 2 years ago
@YouJussGotCurbed he still didnt have to go full force into the guy
Ovechkin1726 2 years ago
what those hits are not needed..i understand what your saying but an elbow like that is uncalled for.. if he would have cheched him no problem but that elbow was intentional and was not needed at all.
TheRugby123 2 years ago
Love that kind of hockey
davidforpresident 2 years ago
thats what you get for going for the puck face first. learn to play hockey kid
by the way he was cut by his visor
syroy125 2 years ago
so true players need to kept their heads up
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago 2
Got to start handing out bans,, ban them from playing in N/A. We dont need the next generation of hocey players to be Matt Cooke.
kiker0909 2 years ago
one hit doesnt make someone a dirty player theres such a things as accidents
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago 2
(continued) Other than suspensions, the only other option is the legal system getting involved - is that what we want as hockey players? Imagine what kind of pandora's box will be open then? Crosscheck to the head = assault and batter charges? Cops waiting for you after the game to arrest you? The public is going to start demanding it soon if these KIDS don't turn this around - and what happens when the public freaks out? Knee jerk reactions...by that, I mean police charges.
zoebacca 2 years ago
how ignorant are u to call for charges on things that happen in the game. yes attempts to injure should be investigated but hockey is a high speed game and the contact will be violent if the other guy didnt have his head down the hit would be no worse than ony other one during the course of a game
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago 2
the dude's elbow (pad) smashed his visor before he got to his face THEN smashed his face. Ask yourself how much force must one use to smash a visor then have enough force to continue through it and bust up his face. Then ask yourself it this is what the game of hockey is about. This hit (like the other ones lately) goes ABOVE hockey..... keep suspending for life and maybe the KIDS will get the hint
zoebacca 2 years ago
This is nothing compared to what Dale Hunter and Ulf Samuelsson did. The only difference is you were allowed to shit kick somebody for pulling this crap.
Nowadays, instead of that, the inconsistant refs are supposed to give them 2 minutes. If I didnt love this game, Id hate it.
Moleman4ever 2 years ago
give me a break thats not that bad
tybacking 2 years ago
Fucking kids in the Q. Figure your shit out. There is a reason the Whl hasn't been involved in any of these incidents. Too many boys out east, not enough men.
dfowls 2 years ago
Give him life, this has to stop.
Unclemoparman 2 years ago
That was just as dirty as Cormier's hit! He should recieve the same punishment as Cormier, plain and simple! Some Team Canada we have here.
campbellkd01 2 years ago
that isnt nearly as bad as cormiers hit. still dirty and he should be punished but not as bad as comier
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago 2
this is getting ridiculous. when will these kids learn you can't go around throwing elbows
alexsmith212004 2 years ago
this generation of players are fucking coward players
Magik604 2 years ago
Looks identical to the Richards hit on Booth
GhostWalker40 2 years ago
not at all
NHLArchive 2 years ago
You must blind or dumb, or perhaps both
GhostWalker40 2 years ago
not even close that was a clear elbow and richards was a shoulder check to the head something not against the rules. if ur going to say something get your facts right
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago
Richards was a shoulder? ahahahah
Oh wait, you're a sens fan, I shouldn't expect you to know much, my bad, carry on...
GhostWalker40 2 years ago
maybe watch the video dumbass or let me guess ur a leafs fan and are oblivious to all that happens out side of the cesepool that is toronto
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago
i agree with ye on that that this hit isnt what people are making it out to be,
but go fuck yerself about the leafs, you pasty britty pansies up in ottawa kin go fuck yerselves
cluch9 2 years ago
Another goon from Team Canada!
cdfchung 2 years ago
one bad hit doesnt make him a goon moron what r u an american
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago
This is the most ignorant thing I have ever seen. Well you also root for Chris Neil and Jarko Ruutu, so you were born ignorant.
Canusaveus622 2 years ago
bite me ur probably just as dumb as this person thinking one hit makes a player a goon right. if u or the other guy actually knew anything about hockey u wouldnt be out to pigeon hole a player for 1 play. and hmm want country bases there thoughts of a country based on the acts of individuals, oh right the states so stfu
SENSFAN123432 2 years ago