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  • NadNareek refused to approve: "...I can understand that you don't like the idea [of no ultimate accountability] and I can understand, that people who believe in (heaven and) hell or some sort of "karma" do appreciate the idea of ultimate accountability.

    That of course does not make the concept of hell or karma any more plausible. The thought of that just makes some people feel better. (Or maybe it's their way to get a revenge in their petty little minds.)"

    That wasn't too harsh, right?

  • Everyone (including NadNareek) is entitled to have and express opinions. (No matter how silly they may be...)

    What bothers me is his dishonest way of approving only some comments - those being the ones where he can come up with some "clever" counter argument. It's like if he can't turn your comment upside down he just does not publish it and that's it.

    He's not really open for discussion. Waste of time.

    His cynicism is depressing and unjustified. I'm an atheist and I like my life. :-)

  • What do Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot have in common? They were responsible for millions of innocent people's death, and yes, they were all Atheists.

    You atheists have no morale, why? because you don't consider yourself more worth than eartworms, and earthworms don't have morale, do they? They, like other animals (and atheists) follow only their instincts, so crawl down into the clay and join your slimy cousins, will you?

  • @Trains2007 "What do Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot have in common?"

    Moustache?

    "they were all Atheists"

    Apparently Hitler wasn't.

    "You atheists have no morale"

    Says who?

    "They, like other animals (and atheists) follow only their instincts"

    Not true. I'm not writing this based on instincts only. There's some actual thinking going on (believe it or not) and my emotions may also be somewhat involved in the process though I'm not taking this personally.

    You are just wrong! :-)

  • @noelplum99 Thankyou. i'm glad it's not only me. I've tried to reason with this guy. At first he replied, but now he ignores me.

    It's obvious that he is just a scared old man getting near to his final end who is, like a lot of christians terrified of what might be ahead of him. I'm of a similar age and I don't have the same problem.

    I knew nothing before I was born, so it makes perfect sense that I won't know anything after I'm dead.

    Morality comes from inside you, not from a mythical god.

  • Sexy beard though.

  • @28steryan

    From the gray bearded thinkers I prefer Daniel Dennett. He actually has something useful and interesting to say. Plus he's a lot more funnier.

  • you're cool you have argured in an respectful manner objectively even though I don't completely agree with your arguments you are a better man than NadNareek simply becasue you are respectful and objective.

  • This is the first video from an atheist I have watched and come away with a respect from the author of. You were not half as insulting and emotional as your compatriots.

    I would say--If there is a divine being perfect in power and in perfection then that being could objectivity.

  • thanks, I'm pleased you enjoyed the video :)

  • LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL im...6.04 min ins

  • LOLLLLLLLLLLL no difference between life and non life-(being a rock)...say that when ur dead (same as being a rock..lol) old man....there is a difference because when your dead you wont know there is a difference cause your not living.. (we define "living" as having a conciousness) ...although the man is vague since term "life" can also extend to plants and trees..(they dont have a counciousness but are A living thing)

    lol am i making sense??

  • yes you are

  • that old man talks shit..............human destiny belongs to the clever and strong......eh...destiny isnt pre rendered....were not acting out a play....anything is possible...and eh its not the "weak"...and "dumb" humans fault for being that way...lol blame nature....natural selection...

  • He's in HAWAII!!! He wants God, he should go out and look at a fucking sunset with a nice mist rising off the sea. Very sad, someone trading the numinous for the inane.

  • Be nice, NadNareek probably has rocks for friends as he cannot tell the difference between rocks and people as they are both make of atoms.

  • Christi-inanity is a shallow swamp of psuedo-morals... no better than this fellow's half-assed attempt at framing the beliefs of atheists as nihilistic.

    "As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a flame of meaning in the darkness of mere being." --Carl Jung

    atheism is not nihilism. beardy freak should read more than one book and then rethink his failed arguments.

  • Why do you quote Carl Jung as an authority for your atheism?

    Carl Jung was not an atheist!

    The "meaning" of life for an atheist is shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic!

  • Could you please point out at what location in the video i suggest that Jung is an authority for my atheism?? I have rewatched the video and couldn't find it.

  • My comment was a reply to BNnoddy.

    If you go to the "comments page" you can see the comments in their proper order.

    I would say "sorry for the confusion", but it's YouTube's fault, not mine.

  • Ahh, I am so sorry, at least that clears that one up for me haha :)

  • I quote Jung to illustrate that humans are the ones who make meaning/purpose in their lives... regardless of atheism, agnosticism or religion.

  • well said,nice one mate!!!!

  • And NadNareek there is no instruction to carry out mass slaughter in the name of god according to Ezek (something or other) and of course there is no instruction to blow yourself up taking thousands of innocent lives.

  • "Without god, everything is meaningless."

    One of the most ridiculous, pathetic, pessimistic, misanthropic views out there.

  • Noelplum at his best!!

  • For your information i went to the shops on a rock today. In fact it was four rocks,round ones they were.

    Yours Sincerley

    Fred Flintstone

  • I see a conflict between free will and a diety that knows what we are going to do. The call to repent would not be requested to start with, whatever repent means. He would mearly be awaiting the day, the hour, He knows Noel Plum is going to be on his knees with his throat parched from constant prayer.

  • I object. Nadnareek you give the rest of us white bearded old guys a bad name.

    Nadnareek, your many assumptions are just that, assumptions. Incorrect assumptions.

  • That old man needs to lay off the mushrooms he's been picking out of his yard. He sounds like a man who is rambling thoughts that come to you after you've had a dose of LSD or something.

  • I am honored by any hatred.

  • There's a difference between hatred and a sound rebuffal towards your dissonant rambling. You must at some point be offended, if you're going to learn anything.

  • I approved it as a video response ot mine because it is so entertaining and promotes my video very well. I thot for a moment maybe the producer was on my side.

  • Promotes your video!? Ridicules it and rips it to shreds.  I rarely insult someone to this degree but you are an absolute fucking arsehole moron.

  • thank you NadNareek.

    It probably does promote your video in a way, it is certainly getting it known to people who otherwise would not stumble across it.

  • Hatred ?

    Are you going to play the victim because your inane ignorant theistic ramblings on morality and your inability to differentiate between organic life and sedimentary deposits have had a rational torch shone up their backside?

  • "I am honored by any hatred."

    how about answering a few question , rather than make smug cryptic reply's , oh I get it you are so above us in intellect you need not reply

  • probly the only way Id ge it is if it was a pm

  • your god honors us a lot too, man!

  • Good for you.

    I love a bit of martyromania, myself. It's one of the most delightful things about religion -- narcissism and masochism rolled into one!

  • I don't hate you NadNareek so don't feel honoured by me. I think you're a prick. I can assure you that is not an honour. I think you need psychiatric help.

  • At least I know you have seen the video Daniel, so we will know if you don't respond that it is not because you are unaware of it.

    PS: I'm not sure where I have shown you hatred.

  • They can't understand you, Dan.

    They can't see the difference between "relative" value, purpose, and meaning, and ULTIMATE value, purpose, and meaning.

    They can't see that if there is no God, no immortal soul, and no accountability, then there is no difference between Stalin and Mother Theresa.

    They think people like us are crazy; we think they are blind.

    It will always be that way.

    By the way; I'm not a Christian, I'm just a Theist.

  • The gosple of atheism? We have one of those? AWESOME!!

    4:06 LMAO! I like rocks....

  • Were those "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" sound effects at the start? :P

  • Religion gives you morals alright. The wrong ones!! I was a devout christian and was taught to discriminate against people in the name of religion and to believe terrible and ridicules things. I was oppressed and mind numbingly ignorant. Since being an atheist I am a better person and I am much happier. I no longer discriminant but rather educate myself throwing out the superstition and primitive ideology and replace them with knowledge, understanding and a general awe of the world we live in.

  • Great Video.....!

    With An Other Great Religulous Nutter Found....;-)

  • A great video as usual. That bearded git really has a strange way of looking at life.

  • Life is no better than death if there is no god therefore death is better if there is a god (which god though? Poseidon? Can you swim that well and hold your breath that long? Poseidon was not capable of miracles) Because it's better to be with god than to live on Earth in as much it would be better to be another creature living in the ice rivers of Io, or: even the ice blocks of Alaska as bacteria. Maybe THAT is heaven actually.

  • Love your videos and this was another great one.

  • Gotta love Euthyphro

  • Lol, Gandalf.

  • Very nice use of the Euthyphro dilemma!

  • Ok, what I really find so excruciatingly difficult to comprehend is what's Gandalf doing in Hawaii? Shouldn't he be in New Zealand?

  • You're forgetting the bit where he fell through the bowels of the earth fighting the Balrog and managed to come out on a snowy peak with a tower on it. Clearly he fell through the world out a volcano and landed on the mountainside... in Hawaii...

  • "The most 'successfull' organism..."? I notice he doesn't consider that success may also be as meaningless as the rest of the crap he espouses as the "theologian" of Atheism. Either you seem to have those who try to claim authority over a group, or an actual straw man placed by theists in hope that Atheists will cling prior to being torn down. ;) You're quite right though; selecting a Diety is no less subjective than selecting a code of ethics. Well said.

  • Oh god - the fools that think life is meaningless without god and that atheism has no ethics. It's quite the bleeding opposite.

  • Another grate one mate!!

  • I Love that opening bit about the Mormons!

  • we don't regard the guy on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel as sagely and wise even though he greatly resembles Darwin

  • Great vid, now I think I'll jump on my rock and go to the shop, lol.

  • Another good video, noelplum99. From what you've said about him, it doesn't appear he's willing to engage in any dialogue concerning the subject, unless you're just repeating what he says. He's written a book? Wow. Sounds like the same old rubbish. He may have written a book, but I wonder if he ever entered a debate on the subject. I'd lay 4:1 odds that he has not engaged in a debate formally. Kudos to Noelplum99 for at least trying to engage and open his mind by thinking a bit.

  • That guy made me rage really hard.

  • My first thought was fuck! How did he manage to fit so many fallacies into such a short time slot?

  • I would add that it's also pretty vain of humans to assume that they have a divine purpose.

    Also, even if he's correct, I don't see how that invalidates the belief that there is no God.

  • You'd think this guy NadNareek had never heard any of the arguments against religion/for free thinking. He's just made a load of assumptions about atheists as if we're made on a production line like fukken robots. Whereas, truth is, it's the religious zealots who are largely free of individuality due to their indoctrination from birth.

    What kind of twat assumes that if you have no gods then you're incapable of being a decent human being?

    It's must cuntitudinous of him.

  • Oh this guy is a bloated wind bag who likes the sound of his own voice. I've heard some of his videos before. He makes these seemingly profound statements and attempts to sound wise and sagacious, but when you look a little more closely at his rhetoric it's actually quite vacuous and superficial. He is an anti-philosopher. That is, he doesn't seek wisdom through dialogue; he just makes pronouncements as though divining truth from the universe itself byway of some cosmic form of photosynthesis.

  • I love the bit about objective morality. I would think that if God is the source of morality, then that morality, by definition, is subjective.

  • And if god is not the source of morality and is merely informing us of the objective standard, we don't need god. Either way, positing a god does not give us objective morality in none exists. I think they call that the Euthyphro Dilemma, after one of Plato's dialectics.

  • *if none

  • Yep, it was the euthyphro dilemma in a different dressing (i keep wanting to do a euthyphro vid for my 'tough questions' series - i should for completeness but i keep having vid ideas i hope will be a bit more unusual and hence i keep putting it off)

  • Just an idea for your notes but I stumbled upon Todd Bentley who uses superstition and the glory of god to work supposed miracles. He rips people off left and right and shows what religion is really about. So, if you need another religious freak to comment on , Todd Bentley looks like he'd fit the bill. Good luck with your videos!

  • thanks, ive had a few ideas off people and i'll note this one down.

  • I'm really glad you posted this video. I've been watching Nad's videos for some time, and though I don't agree with anything he says, I've always found his 'courtesy' quite refreshing.

    However, this video, to which you provide an answer, took the biscuit.  Rather than someone who simply 'doesn't understand' atheism, this seemed to spout pure vitriol. I wanted to comment on the original, but couldn't find the words. You have done so far better than i could've.

    Good job.

  • Sorry, I lost it after finding out I am no different than a rock since I don't believe in gawd LOL.

    oh fucking hell, the whole no gawd, no meaning.. no gawd, no morality... this guy is a fruit loop :)

  • Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when those Mormons came knocking!

  • going to the shops now - and im going in my ROCKCAR!!!!

  • NadNareek - Needs to learn the difference between nihilism and atheism.

  • Chinese water torture xD!!!!!!! well said!

  • NadNareek's biggest error is his either-or paradigm. He sees the world in black-or-white, right-or-wrong, us-vs-them.

    everything in our universe exists as part of an infinite spectrum.

    There are degrees of magnitude.

    Every problem may have a myriad of possible solutions. Just because one thing is wrong, doesn't automatically mean its opposite is correct.

    What a simpleton.

  • Man I hope that this guy sticks with his beliefs, if being an atheist would lead him to such amoral thoughts...

  • That Nareek is a real piece of work isn't he. Even at his age without the understanding of what words like good and evil are. Just pathetic.

  • That guy,Nad Nereek aka Dan, lived near me in Vancouver. I had been attempting to have a discussion with him on his channel. Even invited him for a coffee. But he has little integrity and tends to delete comments that disagree with what he says.

  • Where DO you dig these people up from Jim?

    He gives theists a bad name.

    His gospel sounds like all the other Gospels, made up by men with a sinister agenda.

    I sort of skimmed his nonsense list, but he came out with "there is no evolution"? What? Wha....?

    WITH God there is no evolution, evoultion is a fundamental truth to atheists, it's theists (not all of them) who refute evolution by talking about dragons and talking snakes.

    Like all the other gospels - unbelievable.

  • "WITH God there is no evolution, evoultion is a fundamental truth to atheists"

    You don't have to be an atheist to accept evolution, and you don't have to accept evolution to be an atheist, but still, if he threw that in there... lol

  • Why are these loonies so full of hatred for us? Do they really need to lie about us?

  • He will not respond to you. He is a typical atheophobe. Atheism TERRIFIES him, because it means that the foundation of his life is a lie. When your life is based on a lie, you become very good at rationalizing lies. Like all atheophobes, the purpose of making videos is not for him to discuss his beliefs with others, it is to attack atheism. The payoff is when other atheophobes leave feedback that reinforces his delusion. And the circle jerk goes on...

  • ...and where the f**k have you been h8uall, under nadnareeks car (rock)???

    havent seen you on YT for weeks and weeks!

  • Yeah, I've been pretty busy lately. I did just recently put out a video though, day or two ago.

  • They find our very existence as human beings offensive.

  • Pretty much.

  • Great stuff!

  • "If you dont believe in god you arent moral"

    Monkeys in the zoo havent read the bible and theyre more moral than humans!!

    Ive never seen my neighbors cat sitting on the fence reading the koran....and he is moral, he shits in the correct place and doesn't start holy wars against dogs!!

    This moral argument is pathetic, im an atheist and im moral. CASE CLOSED.

    Life doesnt have a purpose, only to survive and reproduce, however, i give my life purpose through how i value it.

  • I'm glad that you sped up that video to make it relatively painless and tolerable. All I here from this guy is a list of contradictions that he lays on the "gospel" of atheism. Funny, I've always been an atheist and I've never heard of any of this shit. Until he actually produces some evidence for his claims, I'm just going to treat his words for what they are... insults.

  • hahahaha

    great video....speeded up this guy reminds me of the exorcist.....

    lmao

  • Where do you find these guys lol?

  • ah, this guy. he's got a ton of videos that need to be rebuked.

  • I cant believe i never saw your channel before, ive been subbed to you for only about 1 month and ive enjoyed every video so far, so keep it up!!

    Anyway.....

  • Perhaps this man has to believe in the bullshit he says to feel justified in his beliefs...

  • GRIMSBY MATE!!!

    awsome vid dude, a very good deconstruction and subsequint destruction of his video.

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