what kind of match highlight is that? only highlighted Fed's winning points.. btw Fed lost that match.. some think that finals of atp master 1000 are small matches and they are small tournaments? cant believe how judgmental and pessimistic people are.....
Fed just thrashed Murray in straight sets at the AO final. Unlike the US final, Murray was well rested and by his own admission in career best form........and he got raped. The mangy fucking Scot is just another Henman, wholl never win a slam till the mighty Fed retires...haha
This is one of the best matches ever between these too. There game styles marry up so well. Murray knows Rogers weaknesses and Roger knows he knows. Murrays game style causes allot of players to create errors, makes it brilliant tennis...
Krajicek is 6-4 lifetime against Sampras. Your logic tells me Richard is better than Pete. Same with Michael Stich (5-3 if I remember)
Anyway, head-to-head is the most changeable and meaningless factor in one's greatness. Sampras said in one of his interviews - "I'm all about the Slams".And so is Federer.
Head to head is meaningless but here you are saying Murray managed to defeat Federer only because he was injured, im just asking the question was Federer injured the 6 times he lost to Murray??
1)Murray defeated Federer in Cincinnati 2006 cause Fed was exhausted after a long tournament he played prior.
2)Murray defeated Federer here cause Fed had a back injury.
3)Murray had 4 wins against Federer from mid 2008 till mid 2009 cause simply he was the better player. THEN. It was Federer's worst period since he won his first GS tournament.
Roger had a "winning syndrome" from Wimbledon 2008 till Madrid Masters 2009 which means he played great for a set and a half and then started commiting weird errors
Each time Murray won against Fed in the mid-mid 2008-2009 period Federer won the first set and then started commiting errors. Same situation in 2 matches against Djokovic. He won the first set, even led in the second with a break and those bizzarre unforced errors came in.
Murray has nothing to say against a prime and healthy Fed
Im sorry you cant say that thats crap he's beaten him 6 times, are you truly being serious. Dont get me wrong im british and no Murray fan but he has had the beating of him most times ive watched them, your opinions dont really count for much, the record book gives murray a 6-4 advantage, weird errors or not, he still beat him, he was hardly Novotna in that wimbledon final was he.....
How do you explain the fact that each time he played with either Djokovic or Murray he won the first set, held a big lead and then started to make weird unforced errors.
I think Federer from the beginning of 2008 up to Wimbledon 2008 was struggling physically, from Wimbledon 2008 up to Madrid Masters 2009 (his breakthrough tournament) he had mental issues.
As i said, head-to-head tells us almost nothing about Federer. Might as well be 10-6 in Fed's favor after he's done.
That is part of the game, its like saying a football team leads every game 1 nil for 80 minutes then loses every time after the 90 mins, thats part of the game, yes they led but still lost. Federer's confidence was hit by losing to Murray and he realised he wasnt invinsible, Murray has owned Federer several times as in deed he did here. Your argument is a bit feeble my friend, i just think you dislike Murray, am i right? I dont like him, personally im a big Davydenko fan. I loathe Soderling
It seems that Murrays no 1 career goal is to win matches against Fed even in 250 tournies like Doha
Any examples?He knew no matter what the final score of this match was, Murray went through to the semi-finals.He had a semi-final match coming up the other day. Instead of saving energy(like Djokovic did against Tsonga-later Novak went on to win the tournament) he played 200 % against Fed. Fed wouldn't stand a chance against Novak in the semis and Murray'd probably win the tournament.
Of course you should try to play and beat the world no 1. But, dammit, you should not make it a career goal, just like Murray does! If he prefers to win a best-of-3 pointless in many occasion match against Fed than to win a Grand Slam tournament then what can I say. It's his choice
Your dislike of Murray coulds your reasonable judgement. Facts are facts. Murray does have a winning record against the best in the world, he has just taken out Nadal. Its not luck.
Injured or not its part of a players job to ensure they are healthy, you can only play who is on the other side of the net....end off.
Let's see who wins in the Ozzie Open final ( I assume they both win their SF matches). How about another fast 3-0 for Fed?
Defeating Roger in a Grand Slam match and on a basic ATP 250 or 500 tournament (now even the masters level) is a completely different story. How many times did Murray defeat Fed in a GS match? let's see what he can do on sunday
Considering they have only had one GS final thats a bit of a stupid comparision. Roger has not been playing well, and he still has to take out Tsonga, who has a powerful game. Roger went walk about with Davy, if Davy hadnt gone the same way Roger would have been out. He is not he player he was, other players do not fear then as they once did. No can't see Federer doing it in 3, infact can't see Federer doing it and neither can Nadal.
stop your "what ifs", it's davydenko's issue he wasn't able to play well. It's not only his problem, several players weren't able to close it out not because they cracked under pressure but because Federer saved his best tennis for crucial points.
What if Federer hadn't caught mono or Nadal got injured? We'll never know. We know the facts however.
Sorry mate, but Murray's pushing is a cat and mouse game for Federer in GS terms. Tsonga has a much bigger shot against Fed than Andy.
Andy has a winning h2h on both players....and it wasnt what ifs.....that was the facts of the game.....or did you not watch??. You talk utter nonsense and have no idea about tennis. Federer/Sampras/Borg/Nadal/ Mac/Aggasi etc all say Murray will be a slam champion....but of course in your delusional world.....you know best....your an idiot.
when? Murray is 23 years old already. Where are his slams? Where? Don't tell me he's still got time - if he won't get one this year he won't win any in his career
Murray is 22, Roger didnt get his until he was 23 and it was his 17th attempt, this is Murrays 17th attempt, Your hatred for Murray is clouding your judgement...or you havent a clue about tennis.
Bro I know more about tennis than you'll ever know
I don't hate Murray as a person. He might be a cool dude, I don't know. But the way he behaves on court with pure arrogance, with his "come ons" screamed after each point (especially after his oponent's mistakes) and his high ego.
He's just unlikeable, I used to like his game like 2-3 years ago but now he's off. All he does is pushing,no pace,no variety,no freagin offense
As to Fed - I don't care what he's like off court as long as he's no 1
Your hatred for Murray is clouding your judgement, or....your a moron.
Your excuses for hating Murray is pathetic. Every top sports man jeers themselves on ,Nadal/Federer - all do it. You know nothing about Tennis otherwise you wouldnt embarress yourself with this nonsense.
SYMANTICS........Your understanding of tennis ie limited and you use abuse to fight your corner. You information is inaccurate, give or take a month or day, doesnt matter point is Murray is about the same age at the same attempt ast Federer was when he started.
If you know tennis as you say you do, you would know this............your an idiot.
Well you're the one who insulted me twice already, so keep your act together
Anyway, And Murray is NOT Roger Federer. He's never gonna win 15 majors,left 1 alone
As i said before, maybe you missed the point, particular players peak at different ages.Nadal did at 19-23,Federer at 22-26.Basically one's peak is getting lower as time goes by.Djokovic won his first major aged 20, same with Del Potro,Cilic just played in his first GS semi
If Murray wants to count at the top,he needs to start it now
And since when head-to-heads matter in tennis? Sampras was 4-6 lifetime against Krajicek. So what? Murray is 6-4 against Fed (CURRENTLY) but might as well finish his career at 10-6 for Federer,Roger seems to be more focued in his matches against Murray recently, think he wants that head-to-head record fixed.
Anyway, Murray is 6-4 lifetime against Federer but who won their biggest match in GS terms? Do you want me to remind you what the final score was?
@89Pleasek exactly. just shows that federer doesn't try in those small tournaments vs Murray. Evident in fed clowning around to get beaten in toronto and shanghai finals this year all against murray in straight sets -- should check out the suspicious, "tanK" errors that fed pulls out in those matches. Just shows murray does shit all to beat a "lack-of-efforted Federer". Lets hope Fed thrashes Murray in another GS meeting in st8 sets; and as a bonus with murray crying too.
what kind of match highlight is that? only highlighted Fed's winning points.. btw Fed lost that match.. some think that finals of atp master 1000 are small matches and they are small tournaments? cant believe how judgmental and pessimistic people are.....
melodyhtoo 7 months ago 2
Fed just thrashed Murray in straight sets at the AO final. Unlike the US final, Murray was well rested and by his own admission in career best form........and he got raped. The mangy fucking Scot is just another Henman, wholl never win a slam till the mighty Fed retires...haha
PabasamDee 2 years ago
@PabasamDee
Why do you hate murray so much?
housefan95 1 year ago
Federer just beat him in the austrialian open unlucky murray atleast he did pretty good
xKaZnAx 2 years ago
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pablo93ify 2 years ago
This is one of the best matches ever between these too. There game styles marry up so well. Murray knows Rogers weaknesses and Roger knows he knows. Murrays game style causes allot of players to create errors, makes it brilliant tennis...
CASPER10666 2 years ago
congratulations you barely defeated an injured federer
89Pleasek 2 years ago
I think the record of 6-4 speaks for itself, anyone else have such a record???? Federer is great but no way as great as Sampras.
1welshdevil 2 years ago
Krajicek is 6-4 lifetime against Sampras. Your logic tells me Richard is better than Pete. Same with Michael Stich (5-3 if I remember)
Anyway, head-to-head is the most changeable and meaningless factor in one's greatness. Sampras said in one of his interviews - "I'm all about the Slams".And so is Federer.
89Pleasek 2 years ago 2
Head to head is meaningless but here you are saying Murray managed to defeat Federer only because he was injured, im just asking the question was Federer injured the 6 times he lost to Murray??
1welshdevil 2 years ago
1)Murray defeated Federer in Cincinnati 2006 cause Fed was exhausted after a long tournament he played prior.
2)Murray defeated Federer here cause Fed had a back injury.
3)Murray had 4 wins against Federer from mid 2008 till mid 2009 cause simply he was the better player. THEN. It was Federer's worst period since he won his first GS tournament.
89Pleasek 2 years ago
Roger had a "winning syndrome" from Wimbledon 2008 till Madrid Masters 2009 which means he played great for a set and a half and then started commiting weird errors
Each time Murray won against Fed in the mid-mid 2008-2009 period Federer won the first set and then started commiting errors. Same situation in 2 matches against Djokovic. He won the first set, even led in the second with a break and those bizzarre unforced errors came in.
Murray has nothing to say against a prime and healthy Fed
89Pleasek 2 years ago
Im sorry you cant say that thats crap he's beaten him 6 times, are you truly being serious. Dont get me wrong im british and no Murray fan but he has had the beating of him most times ive watched them, your opinions dont really count for much, the record book gives murray a 6-4 advantage, weird errors or not, he still beat him, he was hardly Novotna in that wimbledon final was he.....
1welshdevil 2 years ago
How do you explain the fact that each time he played with either Djokovic or Murray he won the first set, held a big lead and then started to make weird unforced errors.
I think Federer from the beginning of 2008 up to Wimbledon 2008 was struggling physically, from Wimbledon 2008 up to Madrid Masters 2009 (his breakthrough tournament) he had mental issues.
As i said, head-to-head tells us almost nothing about Federer. Might as well be 10-6 in Fed's favor after he's done.
89Pleasek 2 years ago
That is part of the game, its like saying a football team leads every game 1 nil for 80 minutes then loses every time after the 90 mins, thats part of the game, yes they led but still lost. Federer's confidence was hit by losing to Murray and he realised he wasnt invinsible, Murray has owned Federer several times as in deed he did here. Your argument is a bit feeble my friend, i just think you dislike Murray, am i right? I dont like him, personally im a big Davydenko fan. I loathe Soderling
1welshdevil 2 years ago
It seems that Murrays no 1 career goal is to win matches against Fed even in 250 tournies like Doha
Any examples?He knew no matter what the final score of this match was, Murray went through to the semi-finals.He had a semi-final match coming up the other day. Instead of saving energy(like Djokovic did against Tsonga-later Novak went on to win the tournament) he played 200 % against Fed. Fed wouldn't stand a chance against Novak in the semis and Murray'd probably win the tournament.
Immature.
89Pleasek 2 years ago
Isnt it the ambition of ever man on that tour to beat the world number 1???
Should he not try to play him??????
I dont get your argument
1welshdevil 2 years ago
Of course you should try to play and beat the world no 1. But, dammit, you should not make it a career goal, just like Murray does! If he prefers to win a best-of-3 pointless in many occasion match against Fed than to win a Grand Slam tournament then what can I say. It's his choice
89Pleasek 2 years ago
That argument does not hold up, its dumb, winning syndrome, nonsense
1welshdevil 2 years ago
You really talk the most utter nonsense ever.
You obviously no nothing about tennis.
Your dislike of Murray coulds your reasonable judgement. Facts are facts. Murray does have a winning record against the best in the world, he has just taken out Nadal. Its not luck.
Injured or not its part of a players job to ensure they are healthy, you can only play who is on the other side of the net....end off.
CASPER10666 2 years ago
Let's see who wins in the Ozzie Open final ( I assume they both win their SF matches). How about another fast 3-0 for Fed?
Defeating Roger in a Grand Slam match and on a basic ATP 250 or 500 tournament (now even the masters level) is a completely different story. How many times did Murray defeat Fed in a GS match? let's see what he can do on sunday
89Pleasek 2 years ago 2
Considering they have only had one GS final thats a bit of a stupid comparision. Roger has not been playing well, and he still has to take out Tsonga, who has a powerful game. Roger went walk about with Davy, if Davy hadnt gone the same way Roger would have been out. He is not he player he was, other players do not fear then as they once did. No can't see Federer doing it in 3, infact can't see Federer doing it and neither can Nadal.
CASPER10666 2 years ago
stop your "what ifs", it's davydenko's issue he wasn't able to play well. It's not only his problem, several players weren't able to close it out not because they cracked under pressure but because Federer saved his best tennis for crucial points.
What if Federer hadn't caught mono or Nadal got injured? We'll never know. We know the facts however.
Sorry mate, but Murray's pushing is a cat and mouse game for Federer in GS terms. Tsonga has a much bigger shot against Fed than Andy.
89Pleasek 2 years ago
Andy has a winning h2h on both players....and it wasnt what ifs.....that was the facts of the game.....or did you not watch??. You talk utter nonsense and have no idea about tennis. Federer/Sampras/Borg/Nadal/ Mac/Aggasi etc all say Murray will be a slam champion....but of course in your delusional world.....you know best....your an idiot.
CASPER10666 2 years ago
when? Murray is 23 years old already. Where are his slams? Where? Don't tell me he's still got time - if he won't get one this year he won't win any in his career
89Pleasek 2 years ago
Murray is 22, Roger didnt get his until he was 23 and it was his 17th attempt, this is Murrays 17th attempt, Your hatred for Murray is clouding your judgement...or you havent a clue about tennis.
CASPER10666 2 years ago
If youre so into details:
1)Federer had already 4 Slams at the age of 23. He even had 5 before he finished 24.
2)Murray is 23 years old in may (3 months from now) and has none yet
4)Federer in fact won his first Slam at the age of 22 but after that he won 14 more (16 coming up in Australia) in the next 6 years.
Sorry bro but lol I don't see Murray winning 15 Slams in 6 years from now.
This is why age comparisons are dumb.
Wilander had 7 GS titles before his 24th birthday. Finished with 7.
89Pleasek 2 years ago 2
Bro I know more about tennis than you'll ever know
I don't hate Murray as a person. He might be a cool dude, I don't know. But the way he behaves on court with pure arrogance, with his "come ons" screamed after each point (especially after his oponent's mistakes) and his high ego.
He's just unlikeable, I used to like his game like 2-3 years ago but now he's off. All he does is pushing,no pace,no variety,no freagin offense
As to Fed - I don't care what he's like off court as long as he's no 1
89Pleasek 2 years ago
Your an idiot. Roger dob - 1981 -
1st slam - July6th 2003 - aged 22
2004 - 3 slams
05 - 2
06 -3
etc etc....you havent a clue.
Your hatred for Murray is clouding your judgement, or....your a moron.
Your excuses for hating Murray is pathetic. Every top sports man jeers themselves on ,Nadal/Federer - all do it. You know nothing about Tennis otherwise you wouldnt embarress yourself with this nonsense.
CASPER10666 2 years ago
What does "clouding my judgement" mean? Bro if you wanna argue use some English.
And just 24 hours ago you said Federer won his first slam at the age of 23. What changed since then?
Federer actually won his first GS title before his 22nd birthday. Murray is nearly 23 years old (in May) and he's still at 0.
It seems like I pissed you off cause I question your tennis knowledge. It is poor, mate, really.
The fact that Murray is a faggot doesn't mean you're smarter, lol.
89Pleasek 2 years ago
I have no feeling for you one way or another.
SYMANTICS........Your understanding of tennis ie limited and you use abuse to fight your corner. You information is inaccurate, give or take a month or day, doesnt matter point is Murray is about the same age at the same attempt ast Federer was when he started.
If you know tennis as you say you do, you would know this............your an idiot.
CASPER10666 2 years ago
Well you're the one who insulted me twice already, so keep your act together
Anyway, And Murray is NOT Roger Federer. He's never gonna win 15 majors,left 1 alone
As i said before, maybe you missed the point, particular players peak at different ages.Nadal did at 19-23,Federer at 22-26.Basically one's peak is getting lower as time goes by.Djokovic won his first major aged 20, same with Del Potro,Cilic just played in his first GS semi
If Murray wants to count at the top,he needs to start it now
89Pleasek 2 years ago
its pretty self explanatory....
SYMANTICS
You have no idea what your talking about....if you did know tennis you wouldnt embarress yourself in this fashion.
CASPER10666 2 years ago
And since when head-to-heads matter in tennis? Sampras was 4-6 lifetime against Krajicek. So what? Murray is 6-4 against Fed (CURRENTLY) but might as well finish his career at 10-6 for Federer,Roger seems to be more focued in his matches against Murray recently, think he wants that head-to-head record fixed.
Anyway, Murray is 6-4 lifetime against Federer but who won their biggest match in GS terms? Do you want me to remind you what the final score was?
The Ozzie final is in 2 days. Let's see..
89Pleasek 2 years ago
And one more thing. Please stop using the dictionary to find tough words, you're losing the point and I can hardly understand a thing.
Btw, how old are you? Cause I'm starting to think you're 10. You certainly sound like one.
89Pleasek 2 years ago
Your ranting....and if you have to ask these questions........then again. Your knowledge in tennis is limited.
CASPER10666 2 years ago
You're one funny kid.
Instead of saying that my tennis knowledge is "limited" (lol - you also don't know what "limited" means), give me some arguements.
Be fair with me, how old are you? Or is it so hard to admit you're 10 (or 12)?
Lol....ranting....wtf lol, stop using words you don't understand, that's my advice
89Pleasek 2 years ago
Your arguements are without merit, this discussion is over.......your delusional.....
CASPER10666 2 years ago
omfg hahahaha
merit :D
delusional :D
hahahahaha wtf are you smoking, cowboy :D?
89Pleasek 2 years ago
I told you Murray sucks compared to Federer. They played twice when it matterd in a GS final and Murray hasn't won a single set.
5-6 it is currently in Murray's favor, but Federer's closing out
89Pleasek 2 years ago
@89Pleasek exactly. just shows that federer doesn't try in those small tournaments vs Murray. Evident in fed clowning around to get beaten in toronto and shanghai finals this year all against murray in straight sets -- should check out the suspicious, "tanK" errors that fed pulls out in those matches. Just shows murray does shit all to beat a "lack-of-efforted Federer". Lets hope Fed thrashes Murray in another GS meeting in st8 sets; and as a bonus with murray crying too.
BrotherTree1 1 year ago
@BrotherTree1 fag fans like you don't deserve to be fans of Federer :D
manyturk 10 months ago
you just put roger's shots you did'nt put andy's shots it's funny 'cause andy won the match!
AWM5RA 2 years ago
1000 points when they win the tournament
blackzachblack 2 years ago
how many points do they get from the atp masters
PassionNTennis 3 years ago
wtf no hd
Prickle 3 years ago
read the description
dangho1 3 years ago
omg but it´s only high quality not high definition...you must be stupid when you don´t see a difference
krbik13 2 years ago
@dangho1 winner reply
BrotherTree1 7 months ago
@Prickle read the description
au2boys2 2 years ago