Someone please tell me if my thinking is agreebale! In a perfect world, parents would raise their children with good morals and good behaviour. Instead, many parents (like those from low income neighborhoods) make poor decisions which could ultimately lead a child astray. It could also lead them to have an abortion, which is stopping poltential "killers" and "rapists" to grow up in society because of parents. Isn't this a good thing? Under law it may be murder, but it all actuality, isnt it good
Hey idiots! All we need to do is give an opinion! Let god judge the people envovled, who are we to act like we know whats best. We live in a hypocrtical world.
I'm all for women's rights, but it should be a more important right for somebody to live. If the woman doesn't want the child, she can simply give the child up for adoption and if she's really so concerned with what pregnancy does to her body, she can have a nip tuck after the pregnancy to get rid of the stretch marks and belly fat. Or a better idea, use protection for prevention or better yet, don't have sex, period!
@elgmalone An abortion is fine if the pregnancy is putting the mothers life at risk. I'm just against abortions that are only because the mother doesn't want to raise the child, or the worst one I've heard: 'I don't want to deal with those stretchmarks'.
The last thing the girl dedicated for democratic laws about abortion summed up everything we needed to know. We all knew that abortions are safe and humane, but in all reality, if the mother did not get an abortion and wanted to do so, the baby's life is not gonna get better in any way possible.
@TheQueerGiraffe dont u think that is a huge assumption? when i heard my girl was pregnant i immediately wanted her to abort. but she didn't and now i am happy and i love him and am so glad she didn;t abort him .
@me25422 I didn't say that people should abort accidential pregnancy. I'm saying its the mother's choice. Even your story works for that theory. Cause your girl was the mother and she didn't want to give away her child. However if she did then it would have been best to abort the child rather than have him unwanted for the rest of his life.
@me25422 Ugh. Your so stuck up. I did agree to the girl for democrats. She said "Yes there is a life in there," Cause its true its heart is beating and its made out of cells, but if the mother didn't want it then when it grows up it will STAY unwanted by its mother and will not have much of a good life.
@TheQueerGiraffe stuck up? i will ignore that and not hold it against you. i say this w out any sarcasm. But I disagree that we should assume that it will not have a good life. That is pure speculation.
@me25422 I said your so stuck up because you keep thinking that we don't think its living. It has consciousness and has a beating heartbeat, ofcourse it is alive. Ofcourse it won't have much of a good life knowing that it isn't wanted. Who wouldn't feel depressed in any way if they know they were unwanted by anyone?
@TheQueerGiraffe Lets,for hypothetical reasons, grant your notion that all unwanted children will have horrible lives and be depressed. This does not give us the right to kill someone.
@me25422 Am I saying that all of them should be killed? No. Its the mother's choice. If the mother wanted it dead then let her. If she isn't ready, then she isn't, give her some time than rather let her take care of her child badly.
@TheQueerGiraffe That baby's life is not going to get better? Haven't you ever heard of adoption? Did you know there are millions couples in America that can't have children who would jump at the chance to adopt a so called "unwanted child"? Sounds like a much better life than being sucked out through a tube long before it ever had a chance to experience life. That child will never know things like christmas morning, cookies and milk or her first kiss.
@cosmos413 Do you even know how many children there are still available for adoption? Come on man Angelina Jolie can't afford ALL of them. And either way, not ALL mothers who don't want their child give them away to adoption centers. Some keep the child and imprison them in hell.
@6macanudo Ughh people, don't you get it? The girl in the Democratic party was amazingly good even if she didn't know the EXACT facts. but she did make sense and not only proved scientific facts, but also the human emotions of mothers who want to abort their child. While the girl for Republican party used unnecessary facts and did not talk about what would actually happen if the mother didn't abort and wanted to do so.
@TheQueerGiraffe hahaha ummmm explain to me what scientific fact she "proved" I am pretty sure it takes a lot longer to prove a "scientific fact" than in one debate. lol. The democrat could not even speak without stumbling. The republican was solid every time she spoke.
@6macanudo My god, stop talking about how they talked, would you be a Democrat if they took a better speaker for the democrats side? Even if the Republican was stumbling, or the Democrat was speaking clearly and perfectly, the laws and thoughts of the different parties will still be the same.
@Godisgood1- Again just because the Chruch is against Abortion DOESNOT mean Jesus was! Give me a verse in the bible where he says he is against it? Few Catholic priest raped children, and the Pope did not put them on trial does that mean Jesus wanted children to be raped? (The answer is no...)
@KpopManiacSFL Yes Catholic priests, some were bad people
However on Abortions!
In bible every time a miscarriage is mentioned it is in a negative light!
However does it matter what the bible says? Do you believe it is Gods word? Have you given your life to Christ? I hope you have but there are some people out there that ask for Biblical references and when they get them "it doesn’t matter"
Well does that matter what the Bible says? Cause I can give you the reference points for you :)
Abortion laws are moot.. If you make it illegal, the dangerous black market will thrive. Look at Europe. Abortion is legal in most countries there, yet their rates of abortion are much lower than Americas.
@reviewreviewer1 Actually you can't stop the black market.. Just look at drugs. So long as there is demand (and demand is always present) there will be someone to supply it.
And it's not murder, it's a fetus. It's no more a life than a potato. Up until a certain point, in my opinion, when it gains conscious awareness.
@reviewreviewer1 It is not, it is a fetus. If that is a human being that you must be a super being, since you and the fetus are not the same. If you don't understand science that you have NO SAY on this matter. You are just basing this on religion.
@Godisgood2051 No religion does come from god, but you are perverting it. Where does it say aborting a gamete, zygote or fetus is wrong? These things are not human beings as science as already shown us, they are just a bunch of cells. So where in the bible does it say aborting cells are wrong? It says murdering a human, but fetus, embryos and gametes have already proven to be NOT human but cells!
@KpopManiacSFL Jesus is both human and divine. He is both human, and God. And since Jesus sent his apostles and founded the Catholic Church. Doesn't that mean that the Catholic church comes from God? The church has been guided by the Holy Spirit who speaks through the pope. The Holy Spirit has guided the Church to take a stand against abortion. Therefore, God is against abortion. If you say that your not Catholic, almost all other denominations of Christianity are pro-life.
@Godisgood2051 I can only draw the conclusion that the only reason it means something to you is because you're naive about the consequences of outcome, if example, it was to be made illegal, blind to take the real life situations of people into consideration, and because you are religious and believe that there's something sacred about being human. Which I along with many others, don't.
@Goodisgood2051- You think a fetus is a baby? What are gametes? embryos? egg? sperm? If you said baby. you HAVE no right to spread falsehoods! Learn science and come bavk for an aguement! DO NOT force your religious views on others!
@KpopManiacSFL Ok, sperm is sperm, an egg is and egg, but once they come together, that is a human life.
Also, I'm not forcing my religion on anyone. I'm not putting a gun to anyone's head and saying "convert" All I'm saying is my beliefs on this topic, so your argument is invalid.
You have the same right as I do to say what you believe in.
Besides, If I was forcing my religious views on people right now, so are you cause you are also arguing.
Ok, you know absolutely NOTHING about me, so how can you make those accusations? Just because I believe in something doesn't mean I am a certain way, so right now you are being the naive one. Besides, I am not rich ok? My family has had it pretty ruff sometimes so don't give me that crap
@Godisgood2051 A very small percentage of the earth population is rich, and I have yet to know of a family that has never had it "ruff", and I never "accused" you of anything, you'll have to try harder than that to try and earn anyones sympathy. You're the one making up false facts and with that claiming that abortion is the same thing as to murder someone in cold blood. It's easy for people to be arrogant about things like these especially when it has never directly affected themselves.
@ynfuan I'm arrogant? That baby has the same genes, the same type of cell, and the same origin as you and I.
All I'm saying is that if you don't want the baby, then don't have sex. It's that simple.
And in the case of women being raped, the amount of women is very small, but also, they say the baby is extremely special to them, and often brings the victim's family closer.
Do you even know how an abortion is carried out? Read up, its horrifying.
@Godisgood2051 "And in the case of women being raped, the amount of women is very small, but also, they say the baby is extremely special to them, and often brings the victim's family closer." I'm not gonna lie, that just made me laugh.
"All I'm saying is that if you don't want the baby, then don't have sex. It's that simple." Wow... to get people to stop having sex is the solution to this problem? Do you even think that's possible? Simple!? What planet do you live on? No-sense-us? :)
@ynfuan I have plenty of sense, have you seen the aftermath of abortion? It seems that having the kid and giving it up for adoption is much safer, and humane. If you disagree, it seems your the one with no sense.
Just because you don't have to take care of it, you can kill it.
Would a mother kill a toddler because she doesn't have the funds? Of course not.
You'll probably say that the developing human isn't life. If its not, then what is it?
@Godisgood2051 Unlike you, I don't see anything "holy" about "human life", not saying I don't believe in cherishing life, but that is probably a big reason to why you don't really care about the real life situations of people or relatives of people that go through with an abortion and therefor, I don't think you'll ever change your view on it if not perhaps you were to be forced see the real conditions and get to know the lives of these people. Assuming you are not helplessly ignorant that is.
@ynfuan Philosophically, there are only 4 things that separate you from that baby, size, level of development, environment, and dependency
First, we do not kill short people because they are not tall
we don't kill toddlers because they aren't fully developed yet
If you walk inside a building, you are still the same person as you were when you were outside. (I don't see how a thing can travel 8 inches & magically become life)
Plus, we don't kill a teenager because they depend on their parents
@ynfuan Philosophically, there are only 4 things that separate you from that baby, size, level of development, environment, and dependency
First, we do not kill short people because they are not tall
we don't kill toddlers because they aren't fully developed yet
If you walk inside a building, you are still the same person as you were when you were outside. (I don't see how a thing can travel 8 inches & magically become life)
Plus, we don't kill a teenager because they depend on their parents
@ynfuan Also, scientifically, embryology text books teach that from conception, that fetus is a whole, functioning human, that is different than every other human just like I am different from you.
If its not human, then why do people want abortions rare? why don't we just kill them all?
Plus, if a pregnant woman wants a drug that will ease her morning sickness, but harm the child, a doctor will not prescribe it. Why?
How does it make sense that we can't harm the baby, but we can kill it?
@Godisgood2051 Of course a fetus is life, but it is not a person. Your religious beliefs is the ground on which your opinions about this matter are built on, along with the lack of understanding and knowledge about the reality of the world. I'm not the one writing the US laws or one who could affect them, so those questions are really wasted on me. I believe you think too highly of human "life", and I think that all of this is really easy for you to say, when you are not directly affected by it.
@ynfuan Why do you always insist that I don't now much about the world? Just because I do not support this doesn't automatically mean that I've been sheltered. The world is not a bad place. Its just seems bad because people always remember the bad things, but easily forget the good things.
Besides, you said that the fetus is life. How do you justify killing human life?
The result of abortion is one dead, and one injured.
@Godisgood2051 Because I don't agree with you, I don't really care to waste more of my time to answer any more of your questions, which, I don't believe you even care to find another answer to. The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason, which is what you clearly have done. Have a nice life continuing wanting to control other peoples lives which you, in all fairness, have no business doing.
@ynfuan I think you can't come up with a response to that.
Your saying that people can't have a say in anothers lives. So if a person murders some else, they can get away with it by saying "You can't control me, its non of your business."?
Obviously, people can, and in most cases, should have a say in anothers affairs.
Abortion is the ONLY issue that I see people saying its non of your business. Is that because you can't come up with something else to say? Prove me wrong.
@Godisgood2051 Why do you insist to keep asking me questions when you know you won't change your mind no matter what I reply? You're wasting my time. I don't consider abortion to be the same as murder, and I don't care if you think otherwise, there's a big contrast between the both. There is a time limit for when you can go through with an abortion, the fetus within this time is so early in it's developing stage that it is unable to feel pain, or any other feelings as far as I know, -
I'm happy I don't live in the US whenever I see republicans like these, living in their own little bubble, ignorant and/or unknowing about the true facts of the world, and unknowing of the ways of it, getting into other peoples faces with their nonsense. You have seen nothing.
The Democrats are suppose to be "liberals" then why does Clinton/Obama keep on appointing conservative supreme court justices (3 jewish and 1 catholic) that are philosophically/religiously against theses issues of abortion/gay marriage. Blacks were once discriminated and it took the supreme court (Brown vs Board of Education 1954) to rule that it was unconstitutional and it paved the way for the civil rights movement. ActionSpeaksLouderThanWords
I don't see the problem with abortion. It is up for the mothers to decide in the end. People who have no business whatsoever with abortion shouldn't interfere unless it concerns them which it does not.
@TheWindx213 If a mother was about to throw her baby off a cliff because she doesn't want it anymore, would you do something to stop her, or just stand by and watch the baby fall to its death and claim "Its the mother business"?
This is pretty much what you are doing when it comes to abortion.
@ynfuan Yes, it is. The "Fetus" which is just another name that someone came up with the take the place of baby, IS human life. So, if you don't see a problem with abortion, then you don't see a problem with murder.
@Godisgood2051 I bet you are one of those who'd also say, "every life is worth living", which is really a very naive thing to say, and from a person living what would be referred as a good life, that could probably be quite insulting to hear for a person less fortunate than you. I don't believe you have a very wide understanding of life, death and the reality outside of your own mind, and possibly that you simply lack acceptance of it.
@Godisgood2051 That's why there's a time limit to an abortion. It's evil to kill a "baby" who wasn't even born yet? Dude, the mother never even knew the "baby", why would she love it? That's the sad truth. It's as true as someone who would rather have someone else die than their parents. It has nothing to do with throwing a baby off a cliff. Where did you get that idea? If you want to see stuff even more "evil" than abortion, sign up for the military.
@LoveTheSunAndMoon The military and abortion outcomes are kind of similar, except abortion deals with young babies.
Just look up what comes into the collection jar in an abortion. Its a bunch of arms and legs, and hands, and organs which have been ripped away from the body, REALLY GRUESOME.
@Godisgood2051 During the first trimester there is NO DEVELOPED organs and the physical features are not define peoperly yet, if they were than the 'babies' (as you incorrectly say) would be able to live and develop in three months tops...oh wait they can't
@KpopManiacSFL Ok, even science, and embryology books teach that once an egg is fertilized it is a whole human. Just because the baby is small and underdeveloped, doesn't mean we can kill it.
We don't kill toddlers because their small and underdeveloped.
So why are we killing them?
you probably will not agree with me that its human.
@Godisgood2051 "embryology books teach that once an egg is fertilized it is a whole human." FALSE! Religions books do! Science books, research papers, lectures etc (which I hardly think you have read, watched or attended) says a fetus is a fetus, an embryo is an embyro, and a zygote (A FERTILIZED EGG) is a zygote. AND NONE OF THE ARE A HUMAN. Got that?
@Godisgood2051 If I see a mom about to do that, I will run for my life since obviously that b*tch is crazy. It's thanks to you young Christians that we have too many humans in the world and more people starving to death everyday. And giving the baby up to adoption? No thanks. I don't want anymore money coming out of my paycheck. I'd rather donate to the Homeless Society or to the defense of my country. Good day.
@TheWindx213 How is it our fault that the world is overpopulated, and people are starving? The Catholic church is the BIGGEST giver of anything in the world.
How can you blame something that does the most good in this world?
Plus, if Catholic doctrine was followed, there would be no killing, there would be no war, there would be no overpopulation, and there would be no starvation.
Just because non-Catholics pull us away from our faith, doesn't mean its our fault.
@Godisgood2051 If the catholic chruch is the biggests giver for the world why do they prohibit individuals from using comdoms and their by having more kids which will drive them through into deeper poverty. Also if you want abortion to be illegal there needs to be a special tax for people like you so that you
u can take care of those children. Since you're a good Christian you shouldn;t be oppose to this.
@KpopManiacSFL I can see where you, as a non catholic, are coming from. But, if everyone followed catholic doctrine, and dogma, people would only have sex with one person in a lifetime, plus, the rich would actually share what they have to people who have none. I happily share what I have with others. People these days become have become lazy, and try to find ways around the problem, than to face it.
@Godisgood2051 Since Jesus is the role model for a good Christian why don't you give your life up for the poor before judging people! Christians DON'T JUDGE! Jesus was a great man, thank God, he cared for the poor and despised the rich and judgemental. Repent and practice your religion properly!
@Godisgood2051 You ARE judging. You're beliefs are based on YOUR opinion. Jesus himself did not preach this (abortion existed in his time, I think he would have mentioned it if it was wrong), and science is not on your side. It is you, who was judging whether these people are not christian and need to be saved.
@KpopManiacSFL "Though shall not kill". Famous commandment that God sent to Moses. This includes all of human life, from point of conception, until natural death. Please quote me where I have judged people.
@reviewreviewer1 So what? It's a fetus that's what. Refer it to its correct name. Oh and fetus, embryo gametes, zygote and a human are NOT the same thing!
@KpopManiacSFL Actually it is human, I am just more developped, bieng human has nothing to do with a state of development but having the genetic structure if it ain`t human what is it and also I am sorry bt evolution doesn`t occur with a lifeform it just grow being underdevelopped doesn`t mean being from a different species, it is actually fact that the genetic code you have makes you member of a species snd children have this!!!!
@reviewreviewer1 Again you are neglecting science. You can believe whatever you want, but science as prove it already. Just like how some people think the world is flat, while the world isn't so your opinion or religious beliefs don;t matter. If you want to say abortion is bad, go ahead, BUT SCIENCE IS NOT WITH YOU. And the bible isn't even with you (show me a verse with the word in "abortion"). Only your religious interpretation, and say"I dislike abortion because I THINK it is wrong"
@KpopManiacSFL Actually this has ntohing to do with religipon, scientifcly lifeforms don`t change specieses fetuses aren`t frrom a different species and scientificly we base being a human bieng around genetic structure not development!!!!!
@KpopManiacSFL That's because only married couples should practice the gift of sex. Plus, God won't give you a baby if you can't raise it. You may think you can't raise it, but God will provide for you.
@Godisgood2051 "God won't give you a baby if you can't raise it. " Foolness, statement and you are taking God in vain. God does give babies to people who cannot raise it as a test, if not why do drug addicts have children? The mothers who murder their children, if they were unfit why would God give them a child if you say god doesn't give children to people who can't raise it? Are you saying you know God's plan and that God is picking with you he wants to have children or not? You are not God!
@KpopManiacSFL They didn't trust in God enough. All you have to do is trust Him. They were unfit in the eyes of humanity. God gave them that baby for a good reason. Just because that person believed that it was a burden, doesn't mean that God caused them to do it. We have free will. We can either trust in God or no. Jesus once said that God won't put you where His grace can't sustain you. Graces can be received through prayer and the sacraments. All you have to do is trust Him.
6:10-6:21 "While life has begun at contraception, life has not become viable until the six month period.".... contraception or conception? lol, either way I disagree with her point of view, and agree with Cheryl (that was the Republican's name, right?)
The choice should not be " to kill or not to kill"
It should be, to have sex, or to not have sex.
You have a choice there, But it is unfair to murder a child because of what you did, or didnt do. Is it wrong if a mom has sex, doesn't want the child, so she kills it. sounds bad when you put it like that. Abortion is that almost exactly, but the child your killing here is lnot capable of defending itsself, I am 12 and i know this.
@MsIlana22 If the mother is in danger of dying at the sacrifice of the child...would you pick the mother to survive or the child...which life is more important...? Should we save one or kill both? Consider your morality when answering this question...
You should be able to give your child up for adoption. Making that illegal ensures that people who feel they can't take care of their childeren, aren't even able to give their childeren what they need. You should be able to give your unborn child to those who are anti-abortion. But you can't. It's biology. If (human) life begins at conception, then the morning after pill is murder. I proclaim it is not.
@Sageangel18000 Two humans get together to create something. That something consists out of one cell (sperm) and another cell 10.000 times as big (egg). This fuses together into a new cell. This divides. We have two cells. Divides again, four cells. At some point, we're dealing what we can call, a 'human'. There are difficulties in adressing what exactly a human is. I won't simply say: "Ecce Homo" and annoy christians. It would take anthropology and longer comments than youtube allows to expand.
@ReX342 With that being the case, I have to say thank you for not annoying me, as I am a Christian. I would love nothing more for you to message me. Looking forward to hearing from you.
@whatsaputter what about the mother? say in the case of the abortion the women who is pregnant does not wish to become a mother would you force to conceive that child? there is also the case where women become pregnant after rape, in this case say they wish to not have the child again is it fair to put an unborn childs rights before the mothers? the difference between the fetus and any other stage of a persons life is that there existence is completely dependent on the mother and her well being
@5H4K490 I am a Father of two kids under 2 years old. Without me they would die. They are dependent on me for everything. What if I don't want to keep them? Is it a matter of choice for me?
@whatsaputter if you choose not to keep them then they can be put up for adoption or someone else can take guardianship of them, however no one can do if a women dsnt wish to have it, you can take out the child and raise it yourself when it is still undeveloped, when in the womb unborn children will 100% die if there mother dies , if something happens to you those babies can still live there lives would change but will continue non the less.
@5H4K490 Should the child be executed for the crime of the father? Should the child be killed so the mother will feel better? Abortion and rape are both wrong for the same reason- an innocent human being is brutally violated. Secondly, rights are not based on current capacity, but inherent capacity. At conception, the unborn have an inherent capacity to function with self awareness, what they lack at the moment is the current capacity to do so.
@Sageangel18000 by that same logic the sperm and egg should be treated as people aswell, cause they only lack at the moment the current capacity to function with self awareness, the baby has to be developed in the womb of its mother which means that the mother has to carry it, if the mother does not wish for it then no one can stop her from losing that child, i dont value unborn children above there mother and as far as im concerned while there in there mother there rights are second to hers.
@5H4K490 I'm sorry, but I have to say... GRAMMER! LEARN TO USE THE WORD THEIR! okay, that out of the way. So now you are placing the wants of the mother above the child's rights to life. If that is true then the phrase "all men are created equal" should be changed to "not all men are equal, but they have a chance to become equal." What you are saying is that not all humans are equal and people that are less developed, like the mentally handicapped, have less rights than you or me.
@Sageangel18000 i cant believe your putting a fetus in the same group as mentally ill or handicapped people, a fetus needs life support for 9 months from there mother thats it, but should it not be the mothers choice whether she wishes to bear with that? again i will say it a fetus is not an independent life therefore the one who its life depends should have the choice of whether to bear it or abort it and the phrase all men are created equal is bull
@Sageangel18000 that phrase insists that god made us all the same well sorry 1st its only a belief that a god made us all, 2nd if we born equal why are there people born with illnesses, birth defects and mental problems. The phrase should be "all men and women should be treated as equals".
@5H4K490 If we should all be treated as equals, then why are human babies treated less than human. Even animals are treated better than human babies. You cannot say that you believe in being treated as equals when you treat human lives as irrelevant pieces of tissue.
@Sageangel18000 im not against babies but while a baby is inside of its mother then the mother is the only one who has the right to decide its fate this is simply because they have to bear the child if you want to protect every conception then learn to grow babies outside the womb then take the babies from the ones who want an abortion, unless you can do this you have no case here the women are the ones who must put there bodies through pregnancy and labor only they have the right to decide
@5H4K490 First off, I apologize for the extreme delay of this response. College got rough. Secondly, PERIODS ARE YOUR FRIENDS! Sorry, but this does make it difficult to read something with no "."s at the end of sentences. Next, what you are saying is the mother's right to decide... Right to decide what? Whether or not to murder an innocent human child? These children are human and are alive, and therefore subject to the same rights that you and I have, do they not?
@Sageangel18000 you and i arent tied to our mothers now are we, we can live independantly, unborn children cant and until they can they are subject to there mothers will while we can govern how a pregnant women should be treated we cannot force her to keep a pregnancy she dsnt wish for thats all, it is wrong to kill but society isnt perfect thats the way it is i prefer leaving a fetus's life in its mothers hand rather than strip women of their rights regarding themselves once pregnant.
@5H4K490 So what you are saying is that the mothers rights are to come before the unborn baby. The pregnant woman is not being stripped of her rights. If so, please name what right she no longer has. The fact is that women have never had the right to murder. I ask again, what right are we restricting?
@Sageangel18000 what right? so you dont consider stopping a woman from deciding whether or not to have a baby a breach of her rights? get real babies are born in women which means that there bodies are needed for it, if they cant decide whether they give birth or not then that is blocking there right to decide on what to do with there body, like i said a fetus needs a mpther but not vice versa so the women must commit themselves to giving birth which if they dont wish to do no one can force.
@5H4K490 Mankind has never held the right to do whatever we want to our own selves. If we did hold that right, then crack, meth, and various other harmful drugs would be fully legal. Next, what about the rights that all people have? You know those famous words. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The first of them is the right to life! Next, does not an infant need a mother? Therefore, the murdering of toddlers should be considered just a late abortion by you.
@Sageangel18000 i am all for the legalisation of drugs, as for man not knowing whats good for them that is not the case for all idiots who dont know better, fools who blindly follow without thinking and minors these people dont know whats good for them the rest are aware and choose to take them or those who dont wont do so. Essentially people should be held accountable for there actions like adults not have taken away as if they were children.
@Sageangel18000 as for infants they can be taken in by anyone else (im sure iv explained this before), they atleast can eat and breath without being in a life support situation unlike a fetus. I can adopt an infant and it will live so the mother is not essential to an infants survival it will effect it in the future but it will live unlike a fetus which has only two fates 1, mother keeps it and it is born or 2, the mother does not wish for the abortion in that case the potntial life is stopped.
@SKATEOUTTACOMPTON What makes the child unwanted and unloved? Who is to decide that their unborn child will never be loved and will never be wanted and should therefore be put to death?
@uknichu here is the definition I found. "An organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense."
@BandosTV this definition is probably incomplete. Here is an alternative: "an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment."
i think u can say fetus is like a parasite but not that a fetus is a parasite.
"Since when has killing an innocent child become a more humane choice than giving it up for adoption? " The unborn child is not more important than the mother. For the family to thrive and grow they need a stable relationship, a good home and a realistic income. If the family can not offer these things then an abortion will leave room for other children to be born later in the parents life where they are better suited to raise and handle something as special as a human being.
@369Anonym life of an unborn child is not more important dan d life of d mother. but life of unborn child vs comfort of mother is a completely different comparison.
It is absolutely criminal IMO for a woman to want to abort just because she wants to live more comfortably. Almost akin to d woman commiting infanticide just bcoz she doesn't want to take care of d baby.
For d record i'm not prolife but i don't condone all abortions either.
First off... When has an unborn baby EVER been responsible for the rape of the mother? Secondly, there is an option known as ADOPTION. Since when has killing an innocent child become a more humane choice than giving it up for adoption? And thirdly, rape and incest count for roughly 1% of all abortion cases...what does that tell you about the other 99%? Rape and incest are heinous crimes that can scar you for life.. Why add abortion to the list? We should punish the ones responsible...not the he
Im so disgusted with abortion I can barely think. Every single argument made by "pro-choice" people is completely ridiculous garbage that can hardly constitute a debate. Abortion will never be ok, and anyone who thinks so is completely blinded by greed or hatred. Screw "blind constitutionality". This debate should be dictated by ethics and morals because everyone knows its sick, and it wouldn't be legal that way. Message me if you think you have a valid debate. You don't.
@EyeRapist Well being raped and knowing your carrying a child that you did not want you werent even planning on having you belive that you should have that baby and take care of it. And everyday the baby is a reminder of what happened in your life tell me such a thing is wrong to take the baby away......
if there's one thing we don't need, it's men in suits telling women what they can and can't do with their own fucking wombs. There are a lot of children that are born into really uncomfortable backgrounds, causing them to be depressed come their teens, and because of this end up committing suicide. Wouldn't abortion have saved them from so much pain? Also some people argue that they are taking a life, but every time a man ejaculates regardless of fertilization, a lot of sperm are killed.
The democrat, while definately a talented and obviously intellegent orator, made some fatal mistakes in her 1st speech. first, the clotheshanger remark, while inteded for humor, was disrespectful and offensive to any moral person. secondly, her entire case is based on speculation. i mean, it isnt like there are money-grubbing rogue clothes hanger weilding abortionists running around, and that is a weak response. lastly, she makes no valid response to her opponents case, indicating that she loses
@fasfsdfasd I am also a christian, but I believe a person has to take up the things they do in life with God not with me or anyone else. I would fight for the welfare of a child as soon as its born, but until its thats women's body and I will be damned if anybody told me what to do with mine so I won't tell anyone what to do with theirs.
@fasfsdfasd Bang your head all you want, I hate when people try to justify things because of the bible. i.e. pro life and say its murder because God should be the only one to choose but at the same time they believe its okay to kill a man i.e. retribution. Let those without sin cast the first stone, yet I don't see no one preaching this. I am pro choice, I am a Democrat, and believe it or not I am for capital punishment.
I think its funny that most Republicans are pro lifers but at the same time the are pro death penalty. If abortion oscar murder what the hell is the state doing. Stop hating on pro choicers they don't believe its okay to murder (as you say) they believe in choice, just like God he told adam and eve not to eat from the tree and it was their choice to listen or not. So let the decision be between us and God, where you have no say.
Yes nice to know Republicans will never get an abortion. Do as we say not as we do. They don't want to kill the babies, but have no idea how one should take care of one. LETS create some JOBS that would help. And Abortions became legal under a Republican President Nixon.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, b/c an intelligent, person most certainly would not refer to a hijab as a "bag". It might be a miss, but to many women, I think pregnancy has become a symbol of oppression & suffering. To be pregnant is restrictive b/c, in all honesty, motherhood is restrictive in a way fatherhood could never be....that is also oppressive, and abortion is a representation of freedom from those sufferings. Right?
Basic human rights are designated for all human beings regardless of race, nationality, religion or age. If you are human you should have these rights, freely. I don't understand why women are advocating for the govt to take away these rights from only certain human beings. I think its weak on our part, as women, to defer responsibility to the life inside of us that, by our choice, was placed into existence only to not even have the right to live. This is a mock of choice.
WTF was she talking about at the begining. The fetus is not alive by scientific terms. It cannot feel, think, etc. an ant is more alive than that fetus. scientific textbooks define it as a parasite. not alive. the blond girl is a bitch. abortions cause pyschological and economic stress? try being a single parent.
Either you have an offspring who is/ was in existence (you're a mom) or you do/did not (not a mom). When a woman aborts her offspring, she is choosing to be the mother of a dead baby instead of an alive baby. Ppl, naturally, are not "forced" into existence...by the co-working of nature and the woman & man's choice to have sex, conception is made possible. You can't decide if you can or can't conceive when nature is not interrupted....so no one is "forced" into existence.
Really? Comparing getting an abortion to getting a tattoo or getting your hair done is pathetic. Any child that is given life to at any period within the mother, deserves just as much to live their life as the next person that comes forth. "It's funny how those who are for abortion, have already been born." That child has just as much of importance as the next person on this earth, how can you genuinely speak for that child and end its life??
Someone please tell me if my thinking is agreebale! In a perfect world, parents would raise their children with good morals and good behaviour. Instead, many parents (like those from low income neighborhoods) make poor decisions which could ultimately lead a child astray. It could also lead them to have an abortion, which is stopping poltential "killers" and "rapists" to grow up in society because of parents. Isn't this a good thing? Under law it may be murder, but it all actuality, isnt it good
JoshD56765 40 minutes ago
Hey idiots! All we need to do is give an opinion! Let god judge the people envovled, who are we to act like we know whats best. We live in a hypocrtical world.
smhatnation11 13 hours ago
CHILDREN ARE NOT PUNISHMENT!!!!! And if you are willing to risk your life to get rid of an unwanted life so b it I could care less if you die!!!
UisBad 1 day ago
GOD ALONE IS THE GIVER AND TAKER OF LIFE
Gordontrek 1 week ago
How is an abortion in anyway humane. Your killing unborn life.
devildog91598 1 week ago 2
I'm all for women's rights, but it should be a more important right for somebody to live. If the woman doesn't want the child, she can simply give the child up for adoption and if she's really so concerned with what pregnancy does to her body, she can have a nip tuck after the pregnancy to get rid of the stretch marks and belly fat. Or a better idea, use protection for prevention or better yet, don't have sex, period!
RyanTheIncredible882 2 weeks ago
@RyanTheIncredible882 I was very concerned about what pregnancy was going to do to me. I didn't want to die.
elgmalone 2 weeks ago
@elgmalone An abortion is fine if the pregnancy is putting the mothers life at risk. I'm just against abortions that are only because the mother doesn't want to raise the child, or the worst one I've heard: 'I don't want to deal with those stretchmarks'.
RyanTheIncredible882 1 week ago
REPUBLICAN WINS! :D hands down!
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The last thing the girl dedicated for democratic laws about abortion summed up everything we needed to know. We all knew that abortions are safe and humane, but in all reality, if the mother did not get an abortion and wanted to do so, the baby's life is not gonna get better in any way possible.
TheQueerGiraffe 1 month ago
@TheQueerGiraffe dont u think that is a huge assumption? when i heard my girl was pregnant i immediately wanted her to abort. but she didn't and now i am happy and i love him and am so glad she didn;t abort him .
me25422 1 month ago
@me25422 I didn't say that people should abort accidential pregnancy. I'm saying its the mother's choice. Even your story works for that theory. Cause your girl was the mother and she didn't want to give away her child. However if she did then it would have been best to abort the child rather than have him unwanted for the rest of his life.
TheQueerGiraffe 4 weeks ago
@TheQueerGiraffe well we disagree. i think the unborn child is a living human being and u do not. i guess we have nothing more to say. peace.
me25422 4 weeks ago
@me25422 Ugh. Your so stuck up. I did agree to the girl for democrats. She said "Yes there is a life in there," Cause its true its heart is beating and its made out of cells, but if the mother didn't want it then when it grows up it will STAY unwanted by its mother and will not have much of a good life.
TheQueerGiraffe 3 weeks ago
@TheQueerGiraffe stuck up? i will ignore that and not hold it against you. i say this w out any sarcasm. But I disagree that we should assume that it will not have a good life. That is pure speculation.
me25422 3 weeks ago
@me25422 I said your so stuck up because you keep thinking that we don't think its living. It has consciousness and has a beating heartbeat, ofcourse it is alive. Ofcourse it won't have much of a good life knowing that it isn't wanted. Who wouldn't feel depressed in any way if they know they were unwanted by anyone?
TheQueerGiraffe 3 weeks ago
@TheQueerGiraffe Lets,for hypothetical reasons, grant your notion that all unwanted children will have horrible lives and be depressed. This does not give us the right to kill someone.
me25422 3 weeks ago
@me25422 Am I saying that all of them should be killed? No. Its the mother's choice. If the mother wanted it dead then let her. If she isn't ready, then she isn't, give her some time than rather let her take care of her child badly.
TheQueerGiraffe 2 weeks ago
@TheQueerGiraffe well like I said we disagree. I can't be ok w murder.
me25422 2 weeks ago
@TheQueerGiraffe That baby's life is not going to get better? Haven't you ever heard of adoption? Did you know there are millions couples in America that can't have children who would jump at the chance to adopt a so called "unwanted child"? Sounds like a much better life than being sucked out through a tube long before it ever had a chance to experience life. That child will never know things like christmas morning, cookies and milk or her first kiss.
cosmos413 3 weeks ago
@cosmos413 Do you even know how many children there are still available for adoption? Come on man Angelina Jolie can't afford ALL of them. And either way, not ALL mothers who don't want their child give them away to adoption centers. Some keep the child and imprison them in hell.
TheQueerGiraffe 3 weeks ago
@TheQueerGiraffe I AGREEE
MsCutipie1 2 weeks ago
@MsCutipie1 Thank you! I don't feel so alone as a democrat anymore. lol
TheQueerGiraffe 2 weeks ago
Just like the big dogs the republican is much more prepared with facts and numbers and the dumbocrap has to back peddle to make sense.
6macanudo 1 month ago
@6macanudo To be fair Democrats do pander to fear. What if you were raped! What if you had to abort or you would die!!!!
But fact is 96%+ of abortions are done for convenience. Meaning they are HEALTHY PREGNANCIES, conceived by CONSENTUAL SEX.
they did have the CHOICE to have sex :)
But yes the crats love to pull up the extreme examples, then try to make things a wash "its all the same" type thing
Jamespot24 1 month ago
@6macanudo Ughh people, don't you get it? The girl in the Democratic party was amazingly good even if she didn't know the EXACT facts. but she did make sense and not only proved scientific facts, but also the human emotions of mothers who want to abort their child. While the girl for Republican party used unnecessary facts and did not talk about what would actually happen if the mother didn't abort and wanted to do so.
TheQueerGiraffe 1 month ago
@TheQueerGiraffe hahaha ummmm explain to me what scientific fact she "proved" I am pretty sure it takes a lot longer to prove a "scientific fact" than in one debate. lol. The democrat could not even speak without stumbling. The republican was solid every time she spoke.
6macanudo 1 month ago
@6macanudo My god, stop talking about how they talked, would you be a Democrat if they took a better speaker for the democrats side? Even if the Republican was stumbling, or the Democrat was speaking clearly and perfectly, the laws and thoughts of the different parties will still be the same.
TheQueerGiraffe 3 weeks ago
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I believe we deserve the choice to murder our babies.
Our soldiers fought for that freedom.
They kill and are killed in afghanistan, so that we have the freedom to kill our babies.
I don't see nothin wrong with that, and I live for that freedom till the day I die.
Hopefully they ain't gonna be sendin me to afganistan, because I don't wanna die soon... but I don't really mind if others die.
ChicoBlancoFilms 1 month ago
I love how she says everyone who has had abortions have future complications and then she said only 20 percent of them do.
Shentuu 1 month ago
@Godisgood1- Again just because the Chruch is against Abortion DOESNOT mean Jesus was! Give me a verse in the bible where he says he is against it? Few Catholic priest raped children, and the Pope did not put them on trial does that mean Jesus wanted children to be raped? (The answer is no...)
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
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Jamespot24 1 month ago
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@KpopManiacSFL Yes Catholic priests, some were bad people
However on Abortions!
In bible every time a miscarriage is mentioned it is in a negative light!
However does it matter what the bible says? Do you believe it is Gods word? Have you given your life to Christ? I hope you have but there are some people out there that ask for Biblical references and when they get them "it doesn’t matter"
Well does that matter what the Bible says? Cause I can give you the reference points for you :)
Jamespot24 1 month ago
@reviewreviewer1- Again science has already prove that fetuses, gametes, embryos and babies are all different. You statement has no bases.
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
lmfao. republicans are fucking retards.
LosAngelesGhost 1 month ago
pro choice bitch got owned
dieselexplsion 2 months ago
Abortion laws are moot.. If you make it illegal, the dangerous black market will thrive. Look at Europe. Abortion is legal in most countries there, yet their rates of abortion are much lower than Americas.
RedSkiesAwaitUs 2 months ago
@RedSkiesAwaitUs the black market can be stopped like any black market and we can`t legalise murder!!!!!!!!!
reviewreviewer1 2 months ago
@reviewreviewer1 Actually you can't stop the black market.. Just look at drugs. So long as there is demand (and demand is always present) there will be someone to supply it.
And it's not murder, it's a fetus. It's no more a life than a potato. Up until a certain point, in my opinion, when it gains conscious awareness.
RedSkiesAwaitUs 2 months ago
@RedSkiesAwaitUs Drugs are being heavily fought, and it is a human being so it is murder!!!!!!!!
reviewreviewer1 2 months ago
@reviewreviewer1 It is not, it is a fetus. If that is a human being that you must be a super being, since you and the fetus are not the same. If you don't understand science that you have NO SAY on this matter. You are just basing this on religion.
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL My religion comes from God. So if your saying its wrong. Then God is wrong.........
Anyway, I consider that fetus and I of the same standards. Even if the world doesn't see it that way, the Church and God does.
Godisgood2051 1 month ago
@Godisgood2051 No religion does come from god, but you are perverting it. Where does it say aborting a gamete, zygote or fetus is wrong? These things are not human beings as science as already shown us, they are just a bunch of cells. So where in the bible does it say aborting cells are wrong? It says murdering a human, but fetus, embryos and gametes have already proven to be NOT human but cells!
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
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Godisgood2051 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL Jesus is both human and divine. He is both human, and God. And since Jesus sent his apostles and founded the Catholic Church. Doesn't that mean that the Catholic church comes from God? The church has been guided by the Holy Spirit who speaks through the pope. The Holy Spirit has guided the Church to take a stand against abortion. Therefore, God is against abortion. If you say that your not Catholic, almost all other denominations of Christianity are pro-life.
Godisgood2051 1 month ago
Um, I think the fact that its a human baby means something.
Plus, nature. lol
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 I can only draw the conclusion that the only reason it means something to you is because you're naive about the consequences of outcome, if example, it was to be made illegal, blind to take the real life situations of people into consideration, and because you are religious and believe that there's something sacred about being human. Which I along with many others, don't.
ynfuan 2 months ago
@Goodisgood2051- You think a fetus is a baby? What are gametes? embryos? egg? sperm? If you said baby. you HAVE no right to spread falsehoods! Learn science and come bavk for an aguement! DO NOT force your religious views on others!
KpopManiacSFL 2 months ago
@KpopManiacSFL Ok, sperm is sperm, an egg is and egg, but once they come together, that is a human life.
Also, I'm not forcing my religion on anyone. I'm not putting a gun to anyone's head and saying "convert" All I'm saying is my beliefs on this topic, so your argument is invalid.
You have the same right as I do to say what you believe in.
Besides, If I was forcing my religious views on people right now, so are you cause you are also arguing.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@KpopManiacSFL Ok, what do you see anything wrong with abortion?
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
Ok, you know absolutely NOTHING about me, so how can you make those accusations? Just because I believe in something doesn't mean I am a certain way, so right now you are being the naive one. Besides, I am not rich ok? My family has had it pretty ruff sometimes so don't give me that crap
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 A very small percentage of the earth population is rich, and I have yet to know of a family that has never had it "ruff", and I never "accused" you of anything, you'll have to try harder than that to try and earn anyones sympathy. You're the one making up false facts and with that claiming that abortion is the same thing as to murder someone in cold blood. It's easy for people to be arrogant about things like these especially when it has never directly affected themselves.
ynfuan 2 months ago
@ynfuan I'm arrogant? That baby has the same genes, the same type of cell, and the same origin as you and I.
All I'm saying is that if you don't want the baby, then don't have sex. It's that simple.
And in the case of women being raped, the amount of women is very small, but also, they say the baby is extremely special to them, and often brings the victim's family closer.
Do you even know how an abortion is carried out? Read up, its horrifying.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 "And in the case of women being raped, the amount of women is very small, but also, they say the baby is extremely special to them, and often brings the victim's family closer." I'm not gonna lie, that just made me laugh.
"All I'm saying is that if you don't want the baby, then don't have sex. It's that simple." Wow... to get people to stop having sex is the solution to this problem? Do you even think that's possible? Simple!? What planet do you live on? No-sense-us? :)
ynfuan 2 months ago
@ynfuan I have plenty of sense, have you seen the aftermath of abortion? It seems that having the kid and giving it up for adoption is much safer, and humane. If you disagree, it seems your the one with no sense.
Just because you don't have to take care of it, you can kill it.
Would a mother kill a toddler because she doesn't have the funds? Of course not.
You'll probably say that the developing human isn't life. If its not, then what is it?
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@ynfuan Would you consider a "fetus" human life? You probably think not.
Whats the difference between a "fetus" and a baby besides the change in location?
I don't see any.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 Unlike you, I don't see anything "holy" about "human life", not saying I don't believe in cherishing life, but that is probably a big reason to why you don't really care about the real life situations of people or relatives of people that go through with an abortion and therefor, I don't think you'll ever change your view on it if not perhaps you were to be forced see the real conditions and get to know the lives of these people. Assuming you are not helplessly ignorant that is.
ynfuan 2 months ago
@ynfuan Philosophically, there are only 4 things that separate you from that baby, size, level of development, environment, and dependency
First, we do not kill short people because they are not tall
we don't kill toddlers because they aren't fully developed yet
If you walk inside a building, you are still the same person as you were when you were outside. (I don't see how a thing can travel 8 inches & magically become life)
Plus, we don't kill a teenager because they depend on their parents
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
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@ynfuan Philosophically, there are only 4 things that separate you from that baby, size, level of development, environment, and dependency
First, we do not kill short people because they are not tall
we don't kill toddlers because they aren't fully developed yet
If you walk inside a building, you are still the same person as you were when you were outside. (I don't see how a thing can travel 8 inches & magically become life)
Plus, we don't kill a teenager because they depend on their parents
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@ynfuan Also, scientifically, embryology text books teach that from conception, that fetus is a whole, functioning human, that is different than every other human just like I am different from you.
If its not human, then why do people want abortions rare? why don't we just kill them all?
Plus, if a pregnant woman wants a drug that will ease her morning sickness, but harm the child, a doctor will not prescribe it. Why?
How does it make sense that we can't harm the baby, but we can kill it?
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 Of course a fetus is life, but it is not a person. Your religious beliefs is the ground on which your opinions about this matter are built on, along with the lack of understanding and knowledge about the reality of the world. I'm not the one writing the US laws or one who could affect them, so those questions are really wasted on me. I believe you think too highly of human "life", and I think that all of this is really easy for you to say, when you are not directly affected by it.
ynfuan 2 months ago
@ynfuan Why do you always insist that I don't now much about the world? Just because I do not support this doesn't automatically mean that I've been sheltered. The world is not a bad place. Its just seems bad because people always remember the bad things, but easily forget the good things.
Besides, you said that the fetus is life. How do you justify killing human life?
The result of abortion is one dead, and one injured.
The result of adoption is two with a chance.
Which is better?
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 Because I don't agree with you, I don't really care to waste more of my time to answer any more of your questions, which, I don't believe you even care to find another answer to. The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason, which is what you clearly have done. Have a nice life continuing wanting to control other peoples lives which you, in all fairness, have no business doing.
ynfuan 2 months ago
@ynfuan I think you can't come up with a response to that.
Your saying that people can't have a say in anothers lives. So if a person murders some else, they can get away with it by saying "You can't control me, its non of your business."?
Obviously, people can, and in most cases, should have a say in anothers affairs.
Abortion is the ONLY issue that I see people saying its non of your business. Is that because you can't come up with something else to say? Prove me wrong.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 Why do you insist to keep asking me questions when you know you won't change your mind no matter what I reply? You're wasting my time. I don't consider abortion to be the same as murder, and I don't care if you think otherwise, there's a big contrast between the both. There is a time limit for when you can go through with an abortion, the fetus within this time is so early in it's developing stage that it is unable to feel pain, or any other feelings as far as I know, -
ynfuan 2 months ago
- who is anyone to tell a woman, "You need to have that baby."?
ynfuan 2 months ago
I'm happy I don't live in the US whenever I see republicans like these, living in their own little bubble, ignorant and/or unknowing about the true facts of the world, and unknowing of the ways of it, getting into other peoples faces with their nonsense. You have seen nothing.
ynfuan 2 months ago
The Democrats are suppose to be "liberals" then why does Clinton/Obama keep on appointing conservative supreme court justices (3 jewish and 1 catholic) that are philosophically/religiously against theses issues of abortion/gay marriage. Blacks were once discriminated and it took the supreme court (Brown vs Board of Education 1954) to rule that it was unconstitutional and it paved the way for the civil rights movement. ActionSpeaksLouderThanWords
EndTheScam 2 months ago
conception not contraception
me25422 2 months ago
I don't see the problem with abortion. It is up for the mothers to decide in the end. People who have no business whatsoever with abortion shouldn't interfere unless it concerns them which it does not.
TheWindx213 2 months ago
@TheWindx213 If a mother was about to throw her baby off a cliff because she doesn't want it anymore, would you do something to stop her, or just stand by and watch the baby fall to its death and claim "Its the mother business"?
This is pretty much what you are doing when it comes to abortion.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 Not.
ynfuan 2 months ago
@ynfuan Yes, it is. The "Fetus" which is just another name that someone came up with the take the place of baby, IS human life. So, if you don't see a problem with abortion, then you don't see a problem with murder.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 I bet you are one of those who'd also say, "every life is worth living", which is really a very naive thing to say, and from a person living what would be referred as a good life, that could probably be quite insulting to hear for a person less fortunate than you. I don't believe you have a very wide understanding of life, death and the reality outside of your own mind, and possibly that you simply lack acceptance of it.
ynfuan 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 That's why there's a time limit to an abortion. It's evil to kill a "baby" who wasn't even born yet? Dude, the mother never even knew the "baby", why would she love it? That's the sad truth. It's as true as someone who would rather have someone else die than their parents. It has nothing to do with throwing a baby off a cliff. Where did you get that idea? If you want to see stuff even more "evil" than abortion, sign up for the military.
LoveTheSunAndMoon 2 months ago
@LoveTheSunAndMoon The military and abortion outcomes are kind of similar, except abortion deals with young babies.
Just look up what comes into the collection jar in an abortion. Its a bunch of arms and legs, and hands, and organs which have been ripped away from the body, REALLY GRUESOME.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 During the first trimester there is NO DEVELOPED organs and the physical features are not define peoperly yet, if they were than the 'babies' (as you incorrectly say) would be able to live and develop in three months tops...oh wait they can't
KpopManiacSFL 2 months ago
@KpopManiacSFL Ok, even science, and embryology books teach that once an egg is fertilized it is a whole human. Just because the baby is small and underdeveloped, doesn't mean we can kill it.
We don't kill toddlers because their small and underdeveloped.
So why are we killing them?
you probably will not agree with me that its human.
So what is the "clump of cells" as you say?
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 "embryology books teach that once an egg is fertilized it is a whole human." FALSE! Religions books do! Science books, research papers, lectures etc (which I hardly think you have read, watched or attended) says a fetus is a fetus, an embryo is an embyro, and a zygote (A FERTILIZED EGG) is a zygote. AND NONE OF THE ARE A HUMAN. Got that?
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
@Godisgood2051 If I see a mom about to do that, I will run for my life since obviously that b*tch is crazy. It's thanks to you young Christians that we have too many humans in the world and more people starving to death everyday. And giving the baby up to adoption? No thanks. I don't want anymore money coming out of my paycheck. I'd rather donate to the Homeless Society or to the defense of my country. Good day.
TheWindx213 2 months ago
@TheWindx213 How is it our fault that the world is overpopulated, and people are starving? The Catholic church is the BIGGEST giver of anything in the world.
How can you blame something that does the most good in this world?
Plus, if Catholic doctrine was followed, there would be no killing, there would be no war, there would be no overpopulation, and there would be no starvation.
Just because non-Catholics pull us away from our faith, doesn't mean its our fault.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 If the catholic chruch is the biggests giver for the world why do they prohibit individuals from using comdoms and their by having more kids which will drive them through into deeper poverty. Also if you want abortion to be illegal there needs to be a special tax for people like you so that you
u can take care of those children. Since you're a good Christian you shouldn;t be oppose to this.
KpopManiacSFL 2 months ago
@KpopManiacSFL I can see where you, as a non catholic, are coming from. But, if everyone followed catholic doctrine, and dogma, people would only have sex with one person in a lifetime, plus, the rich would actually share what they have to people who have none. I happily share what I have with others. People these days become have become lazy, and try to find ways around the problem, than to face it.
Godisgood2051 2 months ago
@Godisgood2051 Since Jesus is the role model for a good Christian why don't you give your life up for the poor before judging people! Christians DON'T JUDGE! Jesus was a great man, thank God, he cared for the poor and despised the rich and judgemental. Repent and practice your religion properly!
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL I'm not judging anybody. Besides, how can you tell me to practice my religion properly when you believe in killing babies?
Godisgood2051 1 month ago
@Godisgood2051 You ARE judging. You're beliefs are based on YOUR opinion. Jesus himself did not preach this (abortion existed in his time, I think he would have mentioned it if it was wrong), and science is not on your side. It is you, who was judging whether these people are not christian and need to be saved.
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL "Though shall not kill". Famous commandment that God sent to Moses. This includes all of human life, from point of conception, until natural death. Please quote me where I have judged people.
Godisgood2051 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL No it isn`t developped so what!!!!!!!
reviewreviewer1 2 months ago
@reviewreviewer1 So what? It's a fetus that's what. Refer it to its correct name. Oh and fetus, embryo gametes, zygote and a human are NOT the same thing!
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL Actually it is human, I am just more developped, bieng human has nothing to do with a state of development but having the genetic structure if it ain`t human what is it and also I am sorry bt evolution doesn`t occur with a lifeform it just grow being underdevelopped doesn`t mean being from a different species, it is actually fact that the genetic code you have makes you member of a species snd children have this!!!!
reviewreviewer1 1 month ago
@reviewreviewer1 Again you are neglecting science. You can believe whatever you want, but science as prove it already. Just like how some people think the world is flat, while the world isn't so your opinion or religious beliefs don;t matter. If you want to say abortion is bad, go ahead, BUT SCIENCE IS NOT WITH YOU. And the bible isn't even with you (show me a verse with the word in "abortion"). Only your religious interpretation, and say"I dislike abortion because I THINK it is wrong"
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL Actually this has ntohing to do with religipon, scientifcly lifeforms don`t change specieses fetuses aren`t frrom a different species and scientificly we base being a human bieng around genetic structure not development!!!!!
reviewreviewer1 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL That's because only married couples should practice the gift of sex. Plus, God won't give you a baby if you can't raise it. You may think you can't raise it, but God will provide for you.
Godisgood2051 1 month ago
@Godisgood2051 "God won't give you a baby if you can't raise it. " Foolness, statement and you are taking God in vain. God does give babies to people who cannot raise it as a test, if not why do drug addicts have children? The mothers who murder their children, if they were unfit why would God give them a child if you say god doesn't give children to people who can't raise it? Are you saying you know God's plan and that God is picking with you he wants to have children or not? You are not God!
KpopManiacSFL 1 month ago
@KpopManiacSFL They didn't trust in God enough. All you have to do is trust Him. They were unfit in the eyes of humanity. God gave them that baby for a good reason. Just because that person believed that it was a burden, doesn't mean that God caused them to do it. We have free will. We can either trust in God or no. Jesus once said that God won't put you where His grace can't sustain you. Graces can be received through prayer and the sacraments. All you have to do is trust Him.
Godisgood2051 1 month ago
@Godisgood2051 My bad, John Paul II said that God won't put you in a place where His grace can't sustain you. I had a brain fart.
Godisgood2051 1 month ago
You messed up from the beginning, you never start out an argument or paper with a definition.
jordant1717 2 months ago
Wow that pro-choice lady is a complete blockhead!!!
StoneCampbellforLife 2 months ago
6:10-6:21 "While life has begun at contraception, life has not become viable until the six month period.".... contraception or conception? lol, either way I disagree with her point of view, and agree with Cheryl (that was the Republican's name, right?)
CalebSullivanMusic 3 months ago
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standingontruth1 3 months ago
abortion should only be used if giving birth can kill both the mother and child.
DP3mo24hofosho 3 months ago
I feel bad for the democrat. She definitely has no idea what she's talking about.
ShawnQuintero 3 months ago
The choice should not be " to kill or not to kill"
It should be, to have sex, or to not have sex.
You have a choice there, But it is unfair to murder a child because of what you did, or didnt do. Is it wrong if a mom has sex, doesn't want the child, so she kills it. sounds bad when you put it like that. Abortion is that almost exactly, but the child your killing here is lnot capable of defending itsself, I am 12 and i know this.
MsIlana22 4 months ago
@MsIlana22 If the mother is in danger of dying at the sacrifice of the child...would you pick the mother to survive or the child...which life is more important...? Should we save one or kill both? Consider your morality when answering this question...
phester061594452 3 months ago
this is really good. :)
bchance94 4 months ago
Wow. That Republican girl really whooped her.
It's amazing how much logic the pro-choice position lacks. I can happily say this as I was once pro-choice.
TheHardout2005 4 months ago
You should be able to give your child up for adoption. Making that illegal ensures that people who feel they can't take care of their childeren, aren't even able to give their childeren what they need. You should be able to give your unborn child to those who are anti-abortion. But you can't. It's biology. If (human) life begins at conception, then the morning after pill is murder. I proclaim it is not.
ReX342 4 months ago
@ReX342 Then explain to me how it is possible for two human parents to create something that is not human but later becomes human?
Sageangel18000 4 months ago
@Sageangel18000 Two humans get together to create something. That something consists out of one cell (sperm) and another cell 10.000 times as big (egg). This fuses together into a new cell. This divides. We have two cells. Divides again, four cells. At some point, we're dealing what we can call, a 'human'. There are difficulties in adressing what exactly a human is. I won't simply say: "Ecce Homo" and annoy christians. It would take anthropology and longer comments than youtube allows to expand.
ReX342 4 months ago
@ReX342 With that being the case, I have to say thank you for not annoying me, as I am a Christian. I would love nothing more for you to message me. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Sageangel18000 4 months ago
If you really think about it, it's more cruel to let an unwanted and unloved child live a miserable existence than to abort it as a fetus.
SKATEOUTTACOMPTON 5 months ago
@SKATEOUTTACOMPTON At least it lived! Why don't you just start killing anyone who you deam living a miserable existance
whatsaputter 5 months ago
@whatsaputter what about the mother? say in the case of the abortion the women who is pregnant does not wish to become a mother would you force to conceive that child? there is also the case where women become pregnant after rape, in this case say they wish to not have the child again is it fair to put an unborn childs rights before the mothers? the difference between the fetus and any other stage of a persons life is that there existence is completely dependent on the mother and her well being
5H4K490 4 months ago
@5H4K490 I am a Father of two kids under 2 years old. Without me they would die. They are dependent on me for everything. What if I don't want to keep them? Is it a matter of choice for me?
whatsaputter 4 months ago
@whatsaputter if you choose not to keep them then they can be put up for adoption or someone else can take guardianship of them, however no one can do if a women dsnt wish to have it, you can take out the child and raise it yourself when it is still undeveloped, when in the womb unborn children will 100% die if there mother dies , if something happens to you those babies can still live there lives would change but will continue non the less.
5H4K490 4 months ago
@5H4K490 Should the child be executed for the crime of the father? Should the child be killed so the mother will feel better? Abortion and rape are both wrong for the same reason- an innocent human being is brutally violated. Secondly, rights are not based on current capacity, but inherent capacity. At conception, the unborn have an inherent capacity to function with self awareness, what they lack at the moment is the current capacity to do so.
Sageangel18000 4 months ago
@Sageangel18000 by that same logic the sperm and egg should be treated as people aswell, cause they only lack at the moment the current capacity to function with self awareness, the baby has to be developed in the womb of its mother which means that the mother has to carry it, if the mother does not wish for it then no one can stop her from losing that child, i dont value unborn children above there mother and as far as im concerned while there in there mother there rights are second to hers.
5H4K490 4 months ago
@5H4K490 I'm sorry, but I have to say... GRAMMER! LEARN TO USE THE WORD THEIR! okay, that out of the way. So now you are placing the wants of the mother above the child's rights to life. If that is true then the phrase "all men are created equal" should be changed to "not all men are equal, but they have a chance to become equal." What you are saying is that not all humans are equal and people that are less developed, like the mentally handicapped, have less rights than you or me.
Sageangel18000 4 months ago
@Sageangel18000 i cant believe your putting a fetus in the same group as mentally ill or handicapped people, a fetus needs life support for 9 months from there mother thats it, but should it not be the mothers choice whether she wishes to bear with that? again i will say it a fetus is not an independent life therefore the one who its life depends should have the choice of whether to bear it or abort it and the phrase all men are created equal is bull
5H4K490 4 months ago
@Sageangel18000 that phrase insists that god made us all the same well sorry 1st its only a belief that a god made us all, 2nd if we born equal why are there people born with illnesses, birth defects and mental problems. The phrase should be "all men and women should be treated as equals".
5H4K490 4 months ago
@5H4K490 If we should all be treated as equals, then why are human babies treated less than human. Even animals are treated better than human babies. You cannot say that you believe in being treated as equals when you treat human lives as irrelevant pieces of tissue.
Sageangel18000 4 months ago
@Sageangel18000 im not against babies but while a baby is inside of its mother then the mother is the only one who has the right to decide its fate this is simply because they have to bear the child if you want to protect every conception then learn to grow babies outside the womb then take the babies from the ones who want an abortion, unless you can do this you have no case here the women are the ones who must put there bodies through pregnancy and labor only they have the right to decide
5H4K490 4 months ago
@5H4K490 First off, I apologize for the extreme delay of this response. College got rough. Secondly, PERIODS ARE YOUR FRIENDS! Sorry, but this does make it difficult to read something with no "."s at the end of sentences. Next, what you are saying is the mother's right to decide... Right to decide what? Whether or not to murder an innocent human child? These children are human and are alive, and therefore subject to the same rights that you and I have, do they not?
Sageangel18000 3 months ago
@Sageangel18000 you and i arent tied to our mothers now are we, we can live independantly, unborn children cant and until they can they are subject to there mothers will while we can govern how a pregnant women should be treated we cannot force her to keep a pregnancy she dsnt wish for thats all, it is wrong to kill but society isnt perfect thats the way it is i prefer leaving a fetus's life in its mothers hand rather than strip women of their rights regarding themselves once pregnant.
5H4K490 3 months ago
@5H4K490 So what you are saying is that the mothers rights are to come before the unborn baby. The pregnant woman is not being stripped of her rights. If so, please name what right she no longer has. The fact is that women have never had the right to murder. I ask again, what right are we restricting?
Sageangel18000 3 months ago
@Sageangel18000 what right? so you dont consider stopping a woman from deciding whether or not to have a baby a breach of her rights? get real babies are born in women which means that there bodies are needed for it, if they cant decide whether they give birth or not then that is blocking there right to decide on what to do with there body, like i said a fetus needs a mpther but not vice versa so the women must commit themselves to giving birth which if they dont wish to do no one can force.
5H4K490 3 months ago
@5H4K490 Mankind has never held the right to do whatever we want to our own selves. If we did hold that right, then crack, meth, and various other harmful drugs would be fully legal. Next, what about the rights that all people have? You know those famous words. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The first of them is the right to life! Next, does not an infant need a mother? Therefore, the murdering of toddlers should be considered just a late abortion by you.
Sageangel18000 3 months ago
@Sageangel18000 i am all for the legalisation of drugs, as for man not knowing whats good for them that is not the case for all idiots who dont know better, fools who blindly follow without thinking and minors these people dont know whats good for them the rest are aware and choose to take them or those who dont wont do so. Essentially people should be held accountable for there actions like adults not have taken away as if they were children.
5H4K490 3 months ago
@Sageangel18000 as for infants they can be taken in by anyone else (im sure iv explained this before), they atleast can eat and breath without being in a life support situation unlike a fetus. I can adopt an infant and it will live so the mother is not essential to an infants survival it will effect it in the future but it will live unlike a fetus which has only two fates 1, mother keeps it and it is born or 2, the mother does not wish for the abortion in that case the potntial life is stopped.
5H4K490 3 months ago
@SKATEOUTTACOMPTON What makes the child unwanted and unloved? Who is to decide that their unborn child will never be loved and will never be wanted and should therefore be put to death?
Sageangel18000 4 months ago
its sad how there are only 12,000 views
NorthernSettler 5 months ago
@NorthernSettler It's sad how abortion is legal.
intimidatingusername 5 months ago
@intimidatingusername True that.
NorthernSettler 5 months ago
life begins @ contraception. lol!
uknichu 5 months ago
a fetus is a parasite but definitely alive
BandosTV 5 months ago
@BandosTV nope, not a parasite. parasite is of a different species dan dat of host.
uknichu 5 months ago
@uknichu here is the definition I found. "An organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense."
BandosTV 5 months ago
@BandosTV this definition is probably incomplete. Here is an alternative: "an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment."
i think u can say fetus is like a parasite but not that a fetus is a parasite.
uknichu 5 months ago
@BandosTV If it is alive then what right does the mother have to kill it?
Sageangel18000 4 months ago
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@BandosTV If it is alive then what right does the mother have to kill it?
Sageangel18000 4 months ago
"Since when has killing an innocent child become a more humane choice than giving it up for adoption? " The unborn child is not more important than the mother. For the family to thrive and grow they need a stable relationship, a good home and a realistic income. If the family can not offer these things then an abortion will leave room for other children to be born later in the parents life where they are better suited to raise and handle something as special as a human being.
369Anonym 5 months ago
@369Anonym life of an unborn child is not more important dan d life of d mother. but life of unborn child vs comfort of mother is a completely different comparison.
It is absolutely criminal IMO for a woman to want to abort just because she wants to live more comfortably. Almost akin to d woman commiting infanticide just bcoz she doesn't want to take care of d baby.
For d record i'm not prolife but i don't condone all abortions either.
uknichu 5 months ago
terrible debate from both sides.
tenorhighc1 6 months ago 2
First off... When has an unborn baby EVER been responsible for the rape of the mother? Secondly, there is an option known as ADOPTION. Since when has killing an innocent child become a more humane choice than giving it up for adoption? And thirdly, rape and incest count for roughly 1% of all abortion cases...what does that tell you about the other 99%? Rape and incest are heinous crimes that can scar you for life.. Why add abortion to the list? We should punish the ones responsible...not the he
EyeRapist 6 months ago
Im a democrat, yet i'm pro life.
noblered5 6 months ago
Im so disgusted with abortion I can barely think. Every single argument made by "pro-choice" people is completely ridiculous garbage that can hardly constitute a debate. Abortion will never be ok, and anyone who thinks so is completely blinded by greed or hatred. Screw "blind constitutionality". This debate should be dictated by ethics and morals because everyone knows its sick, and it wouldn't be legal that way. Message me if you think you have a valid debate. You don't.
EyeRapist 6 months ago
@EyeRapist Well being raped and knowing your carrying a child that you did not want you werent even planning on having you belive that you should have that baby and take care of it. And everyday the baby is a reminder of what happened in your life tell me such a thing is wrong to take the baby away......
oronde546 6 months ago
she wants to keep the constitution intact... more slaves... drugs are legal...
Ohushi 6 months ago
alll about circumstances people. lets just not make it illegal so nothing gets messy. Apparently it's either wrong or its not.
The world obviously never has shades of grey to our controversial topics...
mockingbelles 7 months ago
Well I guess they are going to have to arrest alot of American men for genocide. Jerking off= Worse than Hitler
Einkanstein 7 months ago
Liberal = Kill the baby, save the murderer
Conservative = Kill the murderer, save the baby..
MrMeanderthal 7 months ago
if there's one thing we don't need, it's men in suits telling women what they can and can't do with their own fucking wombs. There are a lot of children that are born into really uncomfortable backgrounds, causing them to be depressed come their teens, and because of this end up committing suicide. Wouldn't abortion have saved them from so much pain? Also some people argue that they are taking a life, but every time a man ejaculates regardless of fertilization, a lot of sperm are killed.
bridgeroadjoe 7 months ago
The democrat, while definately a talented and obviously intellegent orator, made some fatal mistakes in her 1st speech. first, the clotheshanger remark, while inteded for humor, was disrespectful and offensive to any moral person. secondly, her entire case is based on speculation. i mean, it isnt like there are money-grubbing rogue clothes hanger weilding abortionists running around, and that is a weak response. lastly, she makes no valid response to her opponents case, indicating that she loses
theotherguitarmansam 7 months ago
@fasfsdfasd I am also a christian, but I believe a person has to take up the things they do in life with God not with me or anyone else. I would fight for the welfare of a child as soon as its born, but until its thats women's body and I will be damned if anybody told me what to do with mine so I won't tell anyone what to do with theirs.
redgirl19 7 months ago
@fasfsdfasd Bang your head all you want, I hate when people try to justify things because of the bible. i.e. pro life and say its murder because God should be the only one to choose but at the same time they believe its okay to kill a man i.e. retribution. Let those without sin cast the first stone, yet I don't see no one preaching this. I am pro choice, I am a Democrat, and believe it or not I am for capital punishment.
redgirl19 7 months ago
I think its funny that most Republicans are pro lifers but at the same time the are pro death penalty. If abortion oscar murder what the hell is the state doing. Stop hating on pro choicers they don't believe its okay to murder (as you say) they believe in choice, just like God he told adam and eve not to eat from the tree and it was their choice to listen or not. So let the decision be between us and God, where you have no say.
redgirl19 7 months ago
Yes nice to know Republicans will never get an abortion. Do as we say not as we do. They don't want to kill the babies, but have no idea how one should take care of one. LETS create some JOBS that would help. And Abortions became legal under a Republican President Nixon.
MegaELECTRICEYE 7 months ago
Is it alive? Yes
Is it a Human? No
See very simple.
helllspell 7 months ago
You don't need to believe in god to believe that abortion is wrong.
Gearsandwar2 7 months ago
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@Gearsandwar2 it's a woman's choice
bettismiles99 7 months ago
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, b/c an intelligent, person most certainly would not refer to a hijab as a "bag". It might be a miss, but to many women, I think pregnancy has become a symbol of oppression & suffering. To be pregnant is restrictive b/c, in all honesty, motherhood is restrictive in a way fatherhood could never be....that is also oppressive, and abortion is a representation of freedom from those sufferings. Right?
ladyEulaelie 7 months ago
@Fishqueen1972
Basic human rights are designated for all human beings regardless of race, nationality, religion or age. If you are human you should have these rights, freely. I don't understand why women are advocating for the govt to take away these rights from only certain human beings. I think its weak on our part, as women, to defer responsibility to the life inside of us that, by our choice, was placed into existence only to not even have the right to live. This is a mock of choice.
ladyEulaelie 7 months ago
WTF was she talking about at the begining. The fetus is not alive by scientific terms. It cannot feel, think, etc. an ant is more alive than that fetus. scientific textbooks define it as a parasite. not alive. the blond girl is a bitch. abortions cause pyschological and economic stress? try being a single parent.
iron100159 7 months ago
Either you have an offspring who is/ was in existence (you're a mom) or you do/did not (not a mom). When a woman aborts her offspring, she is choosing to be the mother of a dead baby instead of an alive baby. Ppl, naturally, are not "forced" into existence...by the co-working of nature and the woman & man's choice to have sex, conception is made possible. You can't decide if you can or can't conceive when nature is not interrupted....so no one is "forced" into existence.
ladyEulaelie 7 months ago
Really? Comparing getting an abortion to getting a tattoo or getting your hair done is pathetic. Any child that is given life to at any period within the mother, deserves just as much to live their life as the next person that comes forth. "It's funny how those who are for abortion, have already been born." That child has just as much of importance as the next person on this earth, how can you genuinely speak for that child and end its life??
cpanther21 8 months ago
and of course, you lie about the 10th amendment as you advocate for rape... so much for the GOIP
RPoshekGladbach 8 months ago
as a matter of national security, GOPers should never be permitted to procreate as their offspring is demented.
RPoshekGladbach 8 months ago
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"knows absolutely nothing and is arrogant": sounds like you must talking about Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann
sutircomed 8 months ago