Joy Division (Warsaw)_Warsaw

[vmoney831]

fuck new beeeeez joydivision is the shit and fuck all these new fucks who just got into joydivision just because of the movie

[mariuszwasilec79]

Thank You Joy division - respect from Mariusz son of Zbigniew

[balearicsoundwave89]

good bit of punk rock this.

[Adamodevadam]

To all fans of Joy Division

Regards from... Warsaw

[ANDREWNONI]

@baldur1377 thank U so much,much,much i can made for U thanksgiving all the time .U are Right in those words U wrote .Just let the thoughts fall into the CITY and let U will know history of WARSZAWA &POLAND.thank U once again.YOUR INTERPRETERON this Stage.Think carefuly is the wisdom of what U are.Any way U people can make your own way,everything is up to U.

[KAYTAYY0]

who cares mannnn its Fucking music///// ....



[Alxmastr]

for all of those wondering its not really about warsaw but about rudolf hess

[RapidCityDIY]

man this band wasraw...



[fodaodao]

@RapidCityDIY LOL

[Punxundead1]

This is sick punk! Joy division is the shit!

[zuton100]

youd pay about a grand for an original copy of this

[andrew49848]

HOW MUCH DOSE THAT COST.

[MrToomx]

stary dobry joy :)

[AQuarterPast12]

Warsaw rulez, Warszawa zresztą też!

[chelton87]

Im with Panek "No you weren't"

[thepinkspidercompany]

I was there at the back stage.. xj

[PanekPL]

@thepinkspidercompany No you weren't.

[marqueemoon820]

@FifteenHundredHours i think, i may be wrong, joy divisions were groups of jewish women in concentration camps that were used for sex by the nazi guards at the camps, i think that is where they got their name from

[raueda]

come on guys! don't be idiots! this song is about the hopeless warsaw ghetto uprising against the nazi occupation, which is happened during the 2. world -war ".I can see all the cold facts.

I can see through your eyes.

All this talk made no contact.

No matter how hard we tried"

[TheLennoMert]

@raueda this song was written in 1977.. and produced in 1978. ?

[BlitzoftheReich]

@raueda Dude this song is about Rudolph Hess, check the Stanza's it discuss's the isolation he had from Hitlers inner circle, and also 350125 was the prisoner serial number of Hess in Spandau prison.

[mikekadas]

A 5 star song: Warsaw - Joy Division [Salford, Greater Manchester, England] - 1977 - "An English Punk walk through the history of World War II. Though the earliest tracks like...were a strange sort of art punk, there was already something distinct about the group,... My Favorite early song by them." - Substance 1977-1980 (Qwest)-1988.

[TheDustpile]

The Poles survived an awful lot and are richer for it.

Please see my tribute video: SPACER PO WARSZAWIE (THEY SURVIVED THEIR TYRANNIES!)

[FOIIAD]

i don't get it. as much as i love joy division i have no clue what message they were trying to across with this song.  perhaps ian wanted to express sympathy for hess, no idea why anyone would like to do that.

[welovediggin]

we are from Poland, from Warsaw! We love Ian and Joy Division!!!!!

[nicolasdelcastillo]

the swing kids' rendition of this song is awesome too

[Devaprakash777]

@nicolasdelcastillo-YES SIR!!! I love that band, such an energetic and passionate cover.

[FifteenHundredHours]

I just watch the film '24 hour party people' it was about factory records which released Joy Division stuff. anyway, according to the film, they changed the name from Warsaw to Joy Division because they didn't want people to see Warsaw on a poster and think it was an advert for tourism.

also in the film, people thought they were a Nazi band because the name 'Joy Division' has Nazi connotations. but they chose it for irony and cos they liked the way it sounded.

[restorer33]

@FifteenHundred-even the way dressed -short hair(for the time) and smart shirts and trousers was a statement in the late 70's.Whilst the rest of the bands were scruffy Punks or long haired rockers, Joy Division stood out from the rest and looked clean cut like that of Kraftwerk .This imagery attracted some of far right.

[Jake00Is00Funky]

Why did they change from warsaw to joy division? :S I heard it was because warsaw was too offensive but I think joy division has a bit of a worse definition... Someone explain ^.^

[Livyathan2007]

@Jake00Is00Funky There was a band from London called Warsaw Pakt at the same time as Warsaw so they changed their name to Joy Division.

[Jake00Is00Funky]

@Livyathan2007 Thank you! =D

[SWF90]

31G!

[Livyathan2007]

By the way 31G-350125 was the Prisoner of War number given to Rudolf Hess when he was detained in Scotland during the Second World War. Leaders of Men by JD is also a reference to the Nazis... 'Born from some Mothers womb' is a loose translation of the closing comments of Brechts - The Resistable Rise of Arturo Ui.

[RussianCivilian]

yeah but they are hardly pro-nazi.

[Livyathan2007]

I don't believe they were otherwise, I wouldn't listen to them. Merely singing a song about Nazi opression does not make you a Nazi. Is the Director of Downfall a Nazi ? I don't think so.

[RussianCivilian]

that wasn't an accusation it was a mere statement. I never claimed anything.

[Livyathan2007]

No problem mate :D

[daveyvanvliet]

boom, that's what I mean, he know's that fact's. Listen to this dude.

BAM

een dikke fette bolle fatsige zebrapoes.

thats dutch for:

take beer dude..

[Livyathan2007]

@baldur1377 Curtis chose the name from House of Dolls by Karol Cetyniski (No Love Lost by JD has direct references from the novel). This was in tune with a lot of Punk bands at the time that used Nazi Iconography purely for shock value. I listened to a BBC Radio 2 documentary a couple of years ago where Sumner stated that he regretted the use of the name, Joy Division and subsequently, New Order because of the Right Wing implications. None of the band were Nazis though.

[IPSInstrumentals]

3-5-0-1-2-5 GO!

[DJRichardKegg]

also - my grandad - a geordie - served in the war in every service, until burma. i think if he was ian's dad, he wouldn't be right wing at all. the shit he saw.. only told me. no one else. all his mates killed. not exactly a fun day out down hulme is it.

[wisesatyr72]

if you're not a Nazi then you're a communist..Then in a communsit country like Chinese government where totaltarian fasicsm prevails.. so whos right and whos wrong? we're all satans' whores.. theres is no right or wrong..we are all doomed to death and murder..

[Skitziod]

how are rich people ripping YOU and ME off any better...?that is a serious question!!!!!!!HELPHAHAHAHAHAH

[wisesatyr72]

I dont wanna help the rich get any Richer..!!!!!!!HELPHAHAHAHAHAH .

[MarcoMartini81]

@baldur1377 This is your interpretation, but a plenty of witnesses have already stated that Ian had sympathy for the Right and everybody knows he was fascinated by the figure of Rudolph Hess, a very unusual Nazi hierarch. Personally, I condemn the Nazi atrocities and I'm a left wing supporter; in any case, I don't condemn Ian for his opinions, he was a controversial man and a great, amazing artist, full stop.

[wisesatyr72]

Johnny Ramone was fascinated w/the Nazi histroy as well and he always made fun of Joey Ramone about his jewish heritage..thats what friends do

[Teasle586]

31G,31G, 31Geeeeeeeeeee!

[Teasle586]

31G

[ATiredDogsMouth]

Good work, well said

[manolohaxe]

These kinda guys who think they know music are " Failures"

[shadowkunt]

They should disallow comments on Warsaw/JD songs on Youtube. The retardation is always epic.

[aaydmjd]

absolutely... i've given up trying to argue!

[gornostai44422]

awesome song really energy supplier xD

i really like and i'm da 1st comment

[woozleification]

Rudolf hess wanted peace ian curtess was intriged by it

[MarcoMartini81]

350-125 GO! is a tribute to Rudolph Hess, a nazi leader. 350-125 was his identification number in jail. I don't know why, but Ian was somehow fascineted by the nazi Germany aesthetics...

[sebasguticom]

Gecmisi anma.

[Mizantrop666]

yeah, they singin' "jebać ich!"

[hauru16]

3-1-G- spiewaja

jednak rzeczywiscie ma to brzmienie "jebać ich"

[misSOSlaw93]

a ja słyszę polskie było ci :D

[Dorutka]

Ja tez slysze bylo ci! Jezeli chcieli spiewac "j...ich" to cos im nie wyszlo :P

[asamoahstuntcrew]

THUG2 !

[bizzzbuzzz]

This song is the best soundtrack of the game!!!

[crassisdead]

I disagree. THUG2 has the worst soundtrack imo, but this is by far one of the best songs on the soundtrack.

[chrisbrownrockandrol]

fuck yourself

[asamoahstuntcrew]

Yeah,yeah!

[kirstym84]

hear,hear!!

[Evilmindslo]

love this song

[Arzotino]

Warsaw is beautiful city!

[sadhustar]

@Arzotino

balls!

[chilloutmusic1968]

@Arzotino

Die Stadt Ist mir zu kommunistisch.

[Arzotino]

@chilloutmusic1968

So what? That's obvious but is it makes Warsaw uglier or something?(I used google translate, english please mate)

[ratnik44]

@Arzotino

Learn languages!

[Arzotino]

@ratnik44

A co jest nie tak. Sory, że nie jestem nejtiw spikerem, mama mnie nie nauczyła

[licicaviki]

@chilloutmusic1968 it`s zu "kommunistisch" because was destroyed to the ground by nazistisch....

[dass0137]

@Arzotino the say the view in warsaw is best from the top of the palce of culture and science (becouse then you cant see it)

[Arzotino]

@dass0137

I disagree. I think that Palace of Culture is realy pretty example of socrealistic architecture, and also a symbol of Warsaw. Many people says that it should be destroyed, but it's so stupid. First: how to do it in the centre of city, second: why people connect it with whole stalinism, it's a part of polish culture we can't evaporate it

[husarberlin]

@Arzotino  najbrudniejsza stolica europy ogolnie porazka warszawa i bose antki katastrofa

[royalkingkong]

I can see all the weakness

I can pick all the faults

Well, I concede all the faith tests

Just to stick in your throats!!!!!!

[adrianmad1981]

I come from Poland and I must say that it reminds me of some old shool punk rock thing that was happening in early 80`s on an underground music scene, especially when you have censorship employed by the government...

[leineguy]

Like the dems are trying to do here in the US....They call it being "politically correct."

[Emericaner777]

what is mean with 350125?

[up2space]

that was Rudolf Hess prison numbers

[RockstarEnergy37]

Okay, Rudolf Hess. He started out as an extremely vocal Hitler supporter, devoted to the Nazi Party's agenda. Later on, he grew distant and disallusioned with the Third Reich, and fled to Scotland in an attempt to figure out a peace plan between the allies and the axis. The first verse of this song describes the early involvement with the nazis, the second describes his departure, the third describes Hess' last days in Spandau prison in Berlin, Germany.

[TurnerEckhardt]

Joy Division are wonderful! Obviously they were anti - Nazi. Any moron should be able to figure that out.

[shadowkunt]

fucking retard

[tosko2107]

this must be a major stupidity of mine but why the fuck "350125"? and what do they say on the chorus? -im not much of a joy division fan, i just really like this song-

[laurus86]

it is said that is from a nazi (Rudolph Hess) that was in jail, his number...

[antioxidantcherry]

joy division hate nazis..obviously..fuck hess...and the shit he standed for..fuckin coward...

[HISTROIKA]

Not true, Ian Curtis was a genius & was into Nazi symbolism & idiology in a big way.

The name Joy Division was also Nazi, from a regiment of whores kept in the prison camps.

Hook was into nothing but money & fame.

I knew them in the early 80's. "you all forgot Rudolf Hess" Electric circus Oct 1977. I was there, the night elvis died.

Hail Ian, Hail Hess.

[shaunyMP72]

HISTROIKA,you are the 1st i have come across that knows the right answer WELL DONE !

10/10

[GVike]

Hey now, don't diss my man Hooky... if he wanted money and fame he woulda left... besides, Hook's bass is a BIG part of the JD sound...

[archer1949]

To be fair, it should be mentioned that many performers of the Punk and Post Punk period (late 70's early 80's) used Nazi symbolism for aesthetic and shock value. Not that they were Nazi's themselves.

I don't know about Curtis himself, but it could be fair to say that his interest in that stuff came from a purely aesthetic, rather than ideological level.

[bentboybbz]

@archer1949 ummmm...i wouldnt care if they did it for fashion shock value or whtevr...if i saw some fuckers dressed lik nazis marching around they wuld get the shit beat out em...hell they might get buried in tht spot wher we buried tht thing tht one time

[luddehall]

@archer1949 very well put and true. same with lemmy kilminster not?

[trentisgod92]

@archer1949

Good point of course,important to say it's far from ideological.

But about Curtis,I think that's one of the reasons he was so good and special,with Joy Division it looked far from an ideology and also far from shock value. It was just good art,that's why I like about it.It fit naturally,and it didn't seem violent or too much.

[locomotifx]

@archer1949 I think that's quite possible. I am no fan of religious fundamentalism, for instance, yet I use the imagery/sounds in my music sometimes. Yet to me it's not only aesthetic - it's a way of not so much making a point as letting a point make itself. Can be misconstrued, naturally!

[jantjas1]

@archer1949 i dont give a fk man its just how it is nazi of no nazi who cares man punk is over

[shadowkunt]

you are a fucking retard

[HISTROIKA]

Oh, I must not of told the Law Soc that when I did my LLB.

PS, you need to learn some new words, as you appear to repeat yourself rather a lot.

[NoVeilOnMe]

You seem to know a lot about how to eat dick, you must be a gay. I bet you still live with your mummy don't you gay boy.

[aaydmjd]

Actually i regret backing u, u haven't got a clue. Just because a film came out gives you the excuse to be a know it all and tell people they like Joy Division just cos of the movie_ fuck you people can like their music regardless of whether a film came out or not. You don't have to be an expert to like them you fucking knob! And actually people like YOU are the ones making music exclusive to a bunch of small minded wankers who think they know everything. Fuck you.

[shadowkunt]

lol

[jenssalumae2]

try sayin that to all the nazis which leave me hate mail on my page

[shadowkunt]

fucking retard

[laurus86]

Oh, And I didnt understand that either at first

[tosko2107]

cool, thanks!

[zulushakagruen]

day is done - > warsaw kicks my ass

[trailextremist]

headdesks

[jackson2578]

Great song. Thanks for putting it up.

[EYESlikeSIN]

Where can I get this??? Its not on any of their albums!

[gnwhite]

You can get the substance album, 1977-1980. Its still available. Good luck!

[ml2001]

I have this album.....in dark green written with a luminous green letter . This is the first track. Very nice

[shadowkunt]

Not an album retard. It's a compilation. Nobody cares about anything anymore except looking cool for the camera. Fucking turds.

[antioxidantcherry]

substance

[iwantabesedated]

Love it!!Probably the best Joy Division song ever,followed closely by 'She's lost control' XD

[shaunyMP72]

"HOT DOG" mega tune, SHAUN H M/P

[michalrytel]

I was just listening to this song in my car!

[roosoomak]

All the Young Punks!

[ItalyLucam92skater]

yeah! tony hawk's undergruond 2!!

XD great song, and great band.. thanks for an original version.

[tropicalBlasphemy]

fukking heey jeah

[cerpinTHEmute]

don't ruin the integrity of the song with your immature non sense!

[skerrayborgie]

why have you got david icke on your site, the man is mentally ill, he thinks the world is run by lizards.

[xort666]

it is

[josh414]

this is a TUNE!

[badgersinmind]

where is ian curtis bring him back

[anicardi]

He's dead. True story.

[k16popo]

hey dude cool song i love this group im happy to know anyone who knows this song actually