Listening to hi searly romantic piano pieces I get the idea Scelsi was copying a notion derived from either the teachers of Lutoslawski &Penderescki or these masters themselves. the sound masses were not his inventions. Messiaen certainly is not like this. It's closer to Schoenberg's early orchestral coloristic stuff. Not sure I see Scelsi as original just THE ITALIAN who crossed over. I will have to research..
@Sherbrick I did some research, and I'm possibly mistaken. Scelsi may have intended it as refering to 'peace' as you say.. But it is unclear, the words can also have other meanings, such as the work by Aleister Crowley with the same title.
@Sherbrick According to the entry on Scelsi in the 'The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians' the title 'brings together the ancient Assyrian, Sanskrit and Latin words for "peace".' Hope this clarifies the issue.
@SusanSuntan Ah, very good. Thanks for the info. I can conceive of peace being chaotic, but this is rather unsettling... I almost wonder if he's suggesting that peace isn't really what we imagine it to be -- that a world truly without conflict would feel as off-balance as this sounds. Of course, the meaning of the piece is going to be different for each listener.
On the subject of chaos that really does suggest peace, I think Evol Intent's "I'm Happy Your Grave is Next to Mine" fits the bill.
@SusanSuntan Hello!! I just want to say that also in Mayan Language "PAX" means Openning of the Cosmos, and it happens that Mayans used that word to refer what we call music, because for them music, or sound was indeed the openning of Cosmos on earth. I do not know if Scelsi used this word from the Mayan language, is just that he used to give such tittles to his works in maya,...it is a big coincidence that the word PAX it is also here. All the Best!
@SuperTetrahedron Thanks for the info, I did not know that. Seems likely that he could have been playing on that as well. I think Scelsi would've been in favour of such a concept of music!
@SusanSuntan Yes I agree with You totally, in fact Im more on that Idea that Scelsi knew the meanning of the word PAX, he used many other Mayan words. The word PAX and the explation of it it appears on the book "Popol Vuh" the great book of creation according to Mayas, Im pretty sure that Scelsi knew this book. The next word is OM, in sanscrit OM refers to the sound of the Sun, and also is the sound for the mantra meditation to open the third eye, I think Scelsi wanted to awake the listeners!
@NintendoDevil This came from a CD on the Accord label, which is currently out of print. However, I think it's on Scelsi: Orchestral Works 1 on the Mode label. Check Amazon.
@alucardisdumb but that would imply that eternity was an unending piece of time... its not, its the nonexistence of time. eternity is simply the present without a past or future.
Amazing music! Love it!
Uzbazur345 1 month ago
¡GREAT!
gurumaire 3 months ago
I simply don't have words to describe the feeling while I was listening to this piece. Maybe: Trans!
drumsgod 10 months ago
This sounds really speak to me
Etheryczna 1 year ago
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This sounds speak to me
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This sound speak to me
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Listening to hi searly romantic piano pieces I get the idea Scelsi was copying a notion derived from either the teachers of Lutoslawski &Penderescki or these masters themselves. the sound masses were not his inventions. Messiaen certainly is not like this. It's closer to Schoenberg's early orchestral coloristic stuff. Not sure I see Scelsi as original just THE ITALIAN who crossed over. I will have to research..
lovesGenet 1 year ago
masterwork of poetry
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MiguelKertsman 1 year ago
Haunting and hypnotic.... Thanx Again....
Dark classical at its finest...
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umbsix 1 year ago
Is the title meant to be ironic? I find it hard to reach a state even vaguely resembling peace while listening to this. That's probably the point.
Sherbrick 1 year ago
@Sherbrick
The title is not Latin; Pax here means something else than "peace".
NextArminius 1 year ago
@NextArminius What does it mean here? Someone told me that the title was words in three languages for "peace".
Sherbrick 1 year ago
@Sherbrick I did some research, and I'm possibly mistaken. Scelsi may have intended it as refering to 'peace' as you say.. But it is unclear, the words can also have other meanings, such as the work by Aleister Crowley with the same title.
NextArminius 1 year ago
@Sherbrick According to the entry on Scelsi in the 'The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians' the title 'brings together the ancient Assyrian, Sanskrit and Latin words for "peace".' Hope this clarifies the issue.
SusanSuntan 1 year ago
@SusanSuntan Ah, very good. Thanks for the info. I can conceive of peace being chaotic, but this is rather unsettling... I almost wonder if he's suggesting that peace isn't really what we imagine it to be -- that a world truly without conflict would feel as off-balance as this sounds. Of course, the meaning of the piece is going to be different for each listener.
On the subject of chaos that really does suggest peace, I think Evol Intent's "I'm Happy Your Grave is Next to Mine" fits the bill.
Sherbrick 1 year ago
@SusanSuntan Hello!! I just want to say that also in Mayan Language "PAX" means Openning of the Cosmos, and it happens that Mayans used that word to refer what we call music, because for them music, or sound was indeed the openning of Cosmos on earth. I do not know if Scelsi used this word from the Mayan language, is just that he used to give such tittles to his works in maya,...it is a big coincidence that the word PAX it is also here. All the Best!
SuperTetrahedron 10 months ago
@SuperTetrahedron Thanks for the info, I did not know that. Seems likely that he could have been playing on that as well. I think Scelsi would've been in favour of such a concept of music!
SusanSuntan 10 months ago
@SusanSuntan Yes I agree with You totally, in fact Im more on that Idea that Scelsi knew the meanning of the word PAX, he used many other Mayan words. The word PAX and the explation of it it appears on the book "Popol Vuh" the great book of creation according to Mayas, Im pretty sure that Scelsi knew this book. The next word is OM, in sanscrit OM refers to the sound of the Sun, and also is the sound for the mantra meditation to open the third eye, I think Scelsi wanted to awake the listeners!
SuperTetrahedron 10 months ago
Where did you get this/ Where can I buy this?
NintendoDevil 2 years ago
@NintendoDevil This came from a CD on the Accord label, which is currently out of print. However, I think it's on Scelsi: Orchestral Works 1 on the Mode label. Check Amazon.
NewMusicXX 2 years ago
The end of eternity is a contradiction - why dont you you just listen to the sounds?
cooparia 2 years ago
magnifique
musictoujoursmusic 2 years ago
perfect!
penthesiliajs 2 years ago 2
can you imagine it?
the end of eternity.
alucardisdumb 2 years ago 11
@alucardisdumb but that would imply that eternity was an unending piece of time... its not, its the nonexistence of time. eternity is simply the present without a past or future.
somestupidviolinist 1 year ago