i think the best answer for the decline of the IWW was the Palmer Raids and Espionage Act. One of the most appealing parts of the IWW (in a historian respect) is the colorful characters who filled the ranks ie Haywood, Flynn, Hill, etc. When these people were murdered or deported it hurt the union. Also the split between the higher ups in 1924
If you really want an answer to your question -- as opposed to just making a self-satisfied wise-ass You Tube comment -- read the history of the Wobblies. In the early 20th century Wobblies were targeted by the Palmer raids led by J Edgar Hoover. Many were murdered & their murderers let free.
If you are a member of America's ruling class, then I have nothing in common with you, and you are the scum of the Earth. You will be gotten rid of one day. Scum.
@bapyou im not part of the ruling class, far from it. i live and grew up in detroit to factory workers and live in an apartment. again y is there only 2000 members in the IWW if its such a great organization? and y did communism fail in eastern europe, the societ union, and is being negatively spoken about by fidel castro?
@jescarpita I've already answered your question. If you want an answer, read.
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Early 20th century unions in America were full of leftists: communists, socialists, anarchists, etc. Read the history.
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"Why did communism fail?"
Right-wingers always ask this question as they refuse any explanation differing from what they already believe. Given this, for what reason should I even attempt to answer you? I'll give you one hint: In the 1930s Leon Trotsky predicted Russia's dissolution.
This is a great interview!! The guy breaks the heart of the struggle down to the importance of a union movement over the institution of The Union. Like he says, if workers can build solidarity among their coworkers, they don't need "recognition" or a "contract."
If the demand for the product a company sells/makes drops and the company is expelling more cash than it's taking in, where would they get the money to pay workers no long needed due to no orders coming in?
both. IWW hasnt developed any new ideas in 100 years. the reply he gave to the difference between the wobs and other unions is pure rhetoric from a 100 years ago. like all anarchist, they view revolution as changing one model with another blueprint. some ideal world that we can wake up to. sad. the IWW went to shit after Haywood and Cannon joined the Russian revolution, and the IWW was purged of the rest of the opportunist socialist like DeLeon. things change man. Even the SWP is dead.
I see. Well, we shouldn't attack the interviewee so let's stick to the IWW's ideas. One thing that they've always promoted quite strongly is the concept of "building the new society within the shell of the old", so even if this interviewee moved away from that idea (and I'm not sure that he did) that idea is still held strongly by other members, myself included.
I think that principles are the most important thing to have, blueprints are fine as inspiration/helping to define the means and ends.
I think that times have certainly changed, but the core principles of the IWW remain relevant today. How to implement them is of course the question.
One thing I forgot to question is what makes you assume that the interviewee was an anarchist? He may well have been, but the IWW does include non-anarchists, including some who have attended anarchist events to help promote the IWW. I would never assume that someone is an anarchist because they are a member of the IWW.
I'm a communist, myself, but I beleive that this sort of thing, like the IWW, is the right way to go in putting the workers in power. I'm a fan of Rosa Luxemburg's and of Marx's works.
No. It would not be like modern universal health care because that's run by the state. I imagine the health system would be voluntarily collectivised.
voluntarily collectivized! hahahah. Im sure the insurance companies will say, "yes, i believe in democracy, sure take all my capital" only an idiot would think that. this coffee shop revolutionary must have read a couple books and think he knows a thing or two. the SP in France gets voted in every couple years, so they must have socialism too. haha
Hi. I was born in a country (Yugoslavia) where we had a very well run health system. The more I read about how anarchists imagine the society should look like, the more I realize that what we had was very close to anarchist society. We had free health insurance, the factories were run by the workers...
I went to a World/Inferno (hardcore anarcho punk people playing weird circus punk lol) concert and I saw at least three people with IWW shirts -- awesome conversations, I'm now looking forward to joining IWW.
too bad not many people are in the IWW at the moment. there used to be a lot of members actively in it. i think we need to support the IWW and be inspired to make our own unions and institutions. dont rely on the state to control the corporations.
i think the best answer for the decline of the IWW was the Palmer Raids and Espionage Act. One of the most appealing parts of the IWW (in a historian respect) is the colorful characters who filled the ranks ie Haywood, Flynn, Hill, etc. When these people were murdered or deported it hurt the union. Also the split between the higher ups in 1924
whambola 1 month ago
I'm joining!
maartenMLMS 3 months ago
I want to work. I want to join the Wobblies. I want to be aproletarian. I want to support the erradication of corporate greed.
MartyredxMaiden 4 months ago
IWW are something americans have to discover again in their history: a wonderful example to follow
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ElLinus 9 months ago 2
Is that a SAC button? :)
aequitasetveritas 1 year ago
@aequitasetveritas By golly it is! That's awesome! Är du medlem?
spazgod 4 months ago
(A)
anarksee 1 year ago
The Wobblies are the greatest organization to ever exist in America.
Along with the Paris Commune of the 1860s and the Spanish anarchists of the 1930s, they are my heroes.
bapyou 1 year ago 3
there is only about 2000 members in the IWW LOLOLOLOL what happend boys? i thought u guys were suppose to throw out the capitalist system? lolol
jescarpita 1 year ago
@jescarpita "what happend (sic) boys?"
If you really want an answer to your question -- as opposed to just making a self-satisfied wise-ass You Tube comment -- read the history of the Wobblies. In the early 20th century Wobblies were targeted by the Palmer raids led by J Edgar Hoover. Many were murdered & their murderers let free.
If you are a member of America's ruling class, then I have nothing in common with you, and you are the scum of the Earth. You will be gotten rid of one day. Scum.
bapyou 1 year ago
@bapyou im not part of the ruling class, far from it. i live and grew up in detroit to factory workers and live in an apartment. again y is there only 2000 members in the IWW if its such a great organization? and y did communism fail in eastern europe, the societ union, and is being negatively spoken about by fidel castro?
jescarpita 1 year ago
@jescarpita I've already answered your question. If you want an answer, read.
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Early 20th century unions in America were full of leftists: communists, socialists, anarchists, etc. Read the history.
___
"Why did communism fail?"
Right-wingers always ask this question as they refuse any explanation differing from what they already believe. Given this, for what reason should I even attempt to answer you? I'll give you one hint: In the 1930s Leon Trotsky predicted Russia's dissolution.
bapyou 1 year ago 2
I am sympathetic.
But, in the end, not very pragmatic.
Yakovlievich 1 year ago
The face of the oppressed. I wonder how this fellow would have weathered "service" building "civlization" at Kolyma in the Siberian wilderness.
exrock712 1 year ago
This is a great interview!! The guy breaks the heart of the struggle down to the importance of a union movement over the institution of The Union. Like he says, if workers can build solidarity among their coworkers, they don't need "recognition" or a "contract."
EastofModernity 1 year ago
Let me ask you a question.
If the demand for the product a company sells/makes drops and the company is expelling more cash than it's taking in, where would they get the money to pay workers no long needed due to no orders coming in?
AJAX556 1 year ago
Looter.....
AJAX556 1 year ago
For Marx!
alen209 1 year ago
WOW, the IWW is still around, great stuff.
Just what the world, and especially the USA needs.
Good luck sisters and brothers.
Pull the boss class down. Their miserable ideology has trashed the world.
All people on Earth have to reclaim it for humanity. not for the profits of a few.
marsCubed 2 years ago
is good to see this kind of persons in USA. even in the most capitalist place of the world, there is resistance.
Greetings from argentina
Reyludd 2 years ago 22
Like the interview, I am a member of the IWW as well.
Nice looking fellow ;-)
mfentruck 2 years ago
this is what the anarchist have done with IWW! Sad.
miketrussell1984 2 years ago
I'm a little confused by your comment. Can you be a little more specific as to what you find sad - the interviewee, or the ideas he was expressing?
BillRun101 2 years ago
both. IWW hasnt developed any new ideas in 100 years. the reply he gave to the difference between the wobs and other unions is pure rhetoric from a 100 years ago. like all anarchist, they view revolution as changing one model with another blueprint. some ideal world that we can wake up to. sad. the IWW went to shit after Haywood and Cannon joined the Russian revolution, and the IWW was purged of the rest of the opportunist socialist like DeLeon. things change man. Even the SWP is dead.
miketrussell1984 2 years ago
I see. Well, we shouldn't attack the interviewee so let's stick to the IWW's ideas. One thing that they've always promoted quite strongly is the concept of "building the new society within the shell of the old", so even if this interviewee moved away from that idea (and I'm not sure that he did) that idea is still held strongly by other members, myself included.
I think that principles are the most important thing to have, blueprints are fine as inspiration/helping to define the means and ends.
BillRun101 2 years ago
I think that times have certainly changed, but the core principles of the IWW remain relevant today. How to implement them is of course the question.
One thing I forgot to question is what makes you assume that the interviewee was an anarchist? He may well have been, but the IWW does include non-anarchists, including some who have attended anarchist events to help promote the IWW. I would never assume that someone is an anarchist because they are a member of the IWW.
BillRun101 2 years ago
I'm a communist, myself, but I beleive that this sort of thing, like the IWW, is the right way to go in putting the workers in power. I'm a fan of Rosa Luxemburg's and of Marx's works.
EscapedPsychopath 2 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
The 3 stars of the IWW:
*educate
*organize
*emancipate
Wobblies forever!
Abolish the wage system...
DecapitateCapitalism 3 years ago
Good video, I have been a wobblie for two years now myself. Solidarity fellow workers...solidarity!
amsterdam78 3 years ago
A question for anarchists:
How would the health system be run/maintained in a anarchist society?
I welcome responses from any type of anarchist (market, etc).
popehatesrap 3 years ago
Similar to modern universal health care.
DeflocculatedDentist 3 years ago
No. It would not be like modern universal health care because that's run by the state. I imagine the health system would be voluntarily collectivised.
MarxBakuninMe 3 years ago
And what does that really mean?
YuriKenobi 3 years ago
It means what it says. Consult a dictionary if you don't understand.
MarxBakuninMe 3 years ago
Really? I wouldn't think the dictionary was the best place to look to understand anarchist principles..
YuriKenobi 3 years ago
voluntarily collectivized! hahahah. Im sure the insurance companies will say, "yes, i believe in democracy, sure take all my capital" only an idiot would think that. this coffee shop revolutionary must have read a couple books and think he knows a thing or two. the SP in France gets voted in every couple years, so they must have socialism too. haha
miketrussell1984 2 years ago
Ha
Ha
Ha.
Turd.
MarxBakuninMe 2 years ago
Hi. I was born in a country (Yugoslavia) where we had a very well run health system. The more I read about how anarchists imagine the society should look like, the more I realize that what we had was very close to anarchist society. We had free health insurance, the factories were run by the workers...
kokkej 2 years ago
As a market anarchist, I agree that unions are a good thing. In a natural free market there should be lots of unions.
Sepero1 3 years ago
The mission of unionism is to take and hold
production, not to act as a rear guard of a defeated army. There is power in the union!
Come, most defineately join!
IWWXno 3 years ago
What's the question at :40? "How long have you been _____?"
destructicon500 3 years ago
a wobblie (that's what IWW members are called)
mr1001nights 3 years ago
I went to a World/Inferno (hardcore anarcho punk people playing weird circus punk lol) concert and I saw at least three people with IWW shirts -- awesome conversations, I'm now looking forward to joining IWW.
KenCat1337 3 years ago
awesome
bjarczyk 3 years ago
woohoo
:|
mahyarmohaghegh 3 years ago
too bad not many people are in the IWW at the moment. there used to be a lot of members actively in it. i think we need to support the IWW and be inspired to make our own unions and institutions. dont rely on the state to control the corporations.
god0fmusic 3 years ago 22
This was cool.
:)
DeflocculatedDentist 3 years ago