Obama: The Debate is Over

[crazysillybaby1]

sounds good

[thecruiseliner]

watch and learn...

apparently you have not learn to adapt yet.

see you from the finish line.

[quizerry]

Why are they giving $336 billion to insurance companies in this bill?

[thecruiseliner]

ah ...it passed the senate, the house, now it will be reconciled and finalized. The Prez will sign. Done.

I dont know where you repubs are living...move on. To you teabaggers, I guess you are making the point for Mexicans to take back their land..Arizona, California, New Mexico, Utah, Texas, Colorado, Wyoming.... be careful what you wish for.

[poisonapple16]

I don't know about that...

I think the San Francisco Witch with may be short a few votes.

I mean seriously, how much time do you think Rahm Emmanual can spend naked in the congressional gym?

[thecruiseliner]

you re-inforce my point and premise..

You will say anything to make our president fail. That is as bad as a traitor in my book.

I guess you are like the cable talking pussy heads who pretend not to ever have horseplayed with male friend. Are you guys so afraind and insecure of yourselves? or is it all politics for you.?

sad...

[poisonapple16]

HA I don't have to say anything; failures are abundant with ole big ears in charge.

And a traitor? Did you feel that way when bush was in office?

And the only point here is the one on your head.

This bill is by no means even close to passing...

[poisonapple16]

After he saunters across the Potomac...

[poisonapple16]

Nope, that about sums it up....

[poisonapple16]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

I couldn't tell you really I stopped watching CBS after they got ole big ears elected...

[SuperCaliforniaGuy]

The real costs are:

(1) 10 years of taxes for 6 years of benefits.

(2) Robbing Medicare and SocialSecurity to fund this healthcare bill.

(3) First 10 years adds $500 billion to deficit. Second 10 years adds $1.5 trillion.

You read it right, 2nd 10 years adds $1.5T to the deficit. Obama's team has not yet responded to this criticism by Republican Senators. Majority of Americans do not want this bill passed, but Democrats will try to jam it through using reconcilation tactic.

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[BeardedCIam]

Go to Hell Barack!

[StinkFingerr]

Go to Hell Barack!

[Snarkonymous]

Its been a year. How long do you need to debate?

[poisonapple16]

Till 2012 please.

[cd3dnw]

No thanks, I don't even have change left in my pocket today.

[rabbitwho]

Why, because you spent it getting your top hat and swallowtail jacket dry-cleaned?

[VerticalSmiIe]

Go to Hell Barack!

[mtb416]

How can the debate be over if it has not even begun?

Regardless of your thoughts on Obama, this "debate" on healthcare has been anything but, and to say otherwise is just a bold faced lie.

[cd3dnw]

CNN, NBC and the other government ran news posted it so it must not be true.

[cd3dnw]

And have Messiah Obama to obey and thank for the betterment of our lives.

[merrimac291]

when they say the democrats don't have the votes right now but can get them, you just know that there's going to be some bribing to get those votes.

the sooner this government collapses due to all the debt they can't pay off the better

[cd3dnw]

To all "communism is great" people, why don't you move to China or Cuba and stop suffering with the evils of capitalism. WE ARE BROKE because of overspending, corruption and plain stupidity, and you still want more from ALL of these goons!!!! Grow a brain or move to Cuba were apparently they can give you one for free.

[DoJaenin]

Finally this incredibly backward debate over whether your job contract should decide about whether you're healthy or sick is over. welcome to the 21st century america, and greetings from fucking socialist europe.

[rabbitwho]

health care is not a socialist issue. It's a  basic right. Socialism has nothing to do with it.

[DoJaenin]

Is sarcasm a basic right, too? ;)

[rabbitwho]

Actually yes.

[TAMARLANE]

@rabbitwho

Got any solutions that do not include government control?

[Lucem2]

Only an idiot will be against affordable Health Care.

The HC reform have provisions recommended for people in the know that have been at it for years.

Let Joe the Plumber do the plumbing.

This is a Republic so we send these Politicians to Represent us especially in complicated legislation like HC reform.

Obama asked for a Up or Down vote on it, the single majority will approve it, end of story.

[acidcrashguy]

Surprises me - Americans are suffering from the excesses of insurance and financial companies. Yet you folks are so brainwashed that socialism is "evil". Grow up ..look at Europe/Asia/Japan ...they are all doing *much* better than croony capitalism.

[hetfield08]

Vote Independent and FUCK the parties. Why do people in todays age need the government to take care of them all the time? Take care of yourself and your neighbors and see if things dont look a little better without the government.

[SlimeTron5000]

Because they negotiate with private enterprises, and private enterprises are full of Fagins.

[gone556]

Down with obumer care!!

[movement26]

The current healthcare system is unsustainable. 25% increase in premiums in one year. 100.000 bankruptcies a year due to failure to pay medical costs. I hope John Beohner is well insured because the perma tanned pillock is liable to get a skin melanoma, unless he quits those tanning salons.

[textureweb]

It amazes me that the United States is the only industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system. If getting sick and not going bankrupt is termed socialism, that sounds mighty fine to me.

[poisonapple16]

It is because you are easily fooled.

Those industrialized nations you speak of are not doing so well.

Neither are the states who have adopted this idiocy either.

If you want something done, do it yourself.

If you want it done poorly, get your government to do it for you.

[textureweb]

I would rather a doctor take care of me and not have to die in the waiting room because I cant afford health care. Thats what it is really about. Seriously this nonsense that somehow affordable and universal health care threatens the security of a country is beyond me. Look - just posting this for reasonable debate. Those who think health care is the same issue as gun control wont change their spots. BTW comments on industrialized nations vs. the States is erroneous. Good luck with that.

[poisonapple16]

@textureweb What makes you think you will not die waiting in a government system?

Those who can't afford health care are taken care of. By LAW.

Why you think your government would be better at thsi than a private insurer is beyond me.

They don't appear to be good at much.

[justinccaudle]

I dont know why we cant have a president who knows what he is talking about. We need to get democrats out of the office and republicans back in. Then we will be heading in the right direction and not into a communism country. I am ready for real debate. Check out my vids to see the truth about Obama.

[TylerNull]

The debate IS over -- socialism sucks.

So then, why do Democrats keep resurrecting its putrefied carcass?

Fannie Mayhem is federal racketeering and a nest of High Crimes.

Social Security is a Ponzi-type scheme and thus is federal racketeering and a nest of High Crimes.

SHOOT ALL 535 of THEM.

(After a fair trial.)

[loveandeyes]

you should read albert Einsteins essay titled "why socialism?" It is not the horrible picture of communism like picture that your were purposefully trained/ conditioned to look at.

[TylerNull]

you should keep reading.

Einstein was smart enough to know he was entirely useless except for his proficiencies in the study of physics.

And he explicitly stated so, and often, and specifically because so many socialists were brow-beating the man so hard to abandon his own wisdom and enter politics. Socialism is the home of celebrity recruiting.

(That's nothing to brag about.)

Beyond that, the merciless rampage of socialism -- its history -- is undeniable by the educated, reasoning mind.

[dlucas90]

There never was a real "debate". Anyone still talking about Obama or Bush has missed the boat because it is the unelected central banks that get to decide which "govt." programs will get financed and which "govt" programs will be killed by not financing.

If you want to know whether we will have a "private" ponzi scheme or a "govt." ponzi scheme to pay for health care you ought to ask the unelected central banks, they are our dictators, and the politicians are just the bankers salesmen.

[ThePackers123]

IT'S TEA TIME!

Fly the Tea Party Flag and show we are not alone! Tea Party Flags at

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[lemdixon01]

By the way healthcare in America is expensive because a lot of people get subsidized healthcare so they aren't contributing. Meanwhile the price of healthcare for healthy young people have higher primiums so they don't have healthcare. Plus the there is no real free market because of too much regulation and too few insurance comanies. It is a rigged system to make private healthcare a expensive to bring in a socialist system.

[terpis]

Translation: suck it, single payer proponents.

Makes much more sense, saves far, far more money. Cuts insurance companies completely out of the picture.

So of course it has to go.

[DJAnihilist]

The actors dressed up as doctors REALLY help give him credibility.

Lol.

It's like watching an SNL sketch.

[rabbitwho]

Seems like a good idea, better than nothing, any problems can be worked out as you go along. America needs to catch up with the rest of the world when it comes to health-care, it's ridiculous the richest country in the world can't keep its own people safe.

[cyinyde]

yeah, i love being canadian, no offence to americans :)

[poisonapple16]

Idiot. What makes you think Canadians are safe?

[timongarretson]

Really? You didn't lose faith during the Bush years? ... well... welcome to the club. We've been waiting for ya.

[dlucas90]

Q: how do you convert an idiotic partisan into a patriotic American?

A: Teach them the fraudulent method banks use to create money from debt and how the politicians that have made this immoral practice lawful.

[wdcsucks1]

without a jump shot of obama its not worth anything...this gov is a joke!!! doctors coats, jump-shots, going for a hamburger with mustard, white house dogs PR PR PR. fascism is the word, FASCISM!!!

[ElGorro8]

Lol, I like how the doctors are wearing labcoats to a speech.

[PatricksTime]

it must be true if he has doctors standing behind him in their white coats!!!!

[mssedmebich]

he needs some people in white coats standing behind him and they should have a jacket with very long sleaves to put on him.

[vicentegala]

es maravilloso que eeuu tenga Seguridad Social para los que no confiavais en OBAMA

[DBartman26]

So far 12 demos said they would not vote for this bill, but since when does a politicians "word" mean anything?

[Wildkkat1]

Chet Edwards(D) will vote no on the bill! I hope others will follow?

[donnyb65]

Instead of bailing out a bunch of billionair bankers, they could have given every person in north America a million bucks so they could aford to buy insurance , start buisnesses, pay off their houses...and enable them to take care if themselves...BUT NO!!!! Why should they pay for their screw ups...Make the slaves pay!!

[jjrglobal]

@donnyb65

The difference is the banks have paid back the money they were forced to take, with interest.

[jimmyj37]

NO THEY DIDN'T!!! They paid back 68.3 Billion from the 229.7 Billion they borrowed!

[dlucas90]

The "debate" has been between a govt. ponzi scheme and a "private" ponzi scheme. It is a win-win for the medical and big pharma because either way they still get to set their prices according to what everyone as a group can afford rather than being forced to set prices according to what the average person using the service would be able to afford. But, what would you expect from a govt. that is run by unelected bankers that get to choose which programs they are willing to finance?

[quizerry]

He wants it passed not because it is a good bill but because he wants more power period. He doesn't care how much it will cost the people or the economy.

[Snitzky666]

Criminal government scum. Public enemy #1.

[okefixico]

Obama, nobody respects you. Just accept that reality and go away.

[donnyb65]

You can use your RRSP'S TO PAY FOR YOUR HEALTH NEEDS !! HOW SWEET OF HIM ! The poor and homeless will be forced by law to be insured ? More laws ,more controlers,MORE MASTERS OVER THE SLAVES !!

[quizerry]

The CBO est the exchange would cost each person $6300 a year they get $1500 tax credit (subsidy). So the total plan you will be forced to buy is $7800. People need to read the new bill when it comes out next week. They are trying to push this before the spring break because reps would be bombarded by their constituents.

[MsUnpopular]

the reason he refuses to start over is because he needs the union and political payoffs in the bill to pay back his bought and paid for votes and andy stern which funneled seiu's pension money into the obama campain, they will cover the seiu under obamas plan which will free up the medical money to replace the pension money, its a 2000 page shell game, and starting over would be like using one shell, they would have no place to hide their payoffs,

[Panchee123]

who's paying for this??????!!!! What a dick. So I gotta pay for some schmo who smokes , drinks, and has generally bad habits. I wont do it. Where is the incentive to remain fit>

[putittogether]

I hope the long prison sentences are still in the Health Care Bill, for those that don't give their money to the insurance corporations.

Fascism Now Fascism FOREVER

Obama Forever!

[bigjstokes]

you heard wrong.

[quizerry]

There have been record amounts of calls and emails to Washington opposing this massive spending bill that will cost us all. The people know the math and know this is murder to our economy. Please write or call you Rep and tell them VOTE NO. We need reform not an expansion of a already failed system.

[quizerry]

Expanding a already broken system is not reform. This bill will raise premiums on everyone who has Insurance. It doesn't do what it was suppose to do and that is drive cost down. It is a bailout to the health industry, at the consumers expense. It does not deal with the failed system it expands it.

[kekemankek]

It's a weak bill (no public option is a joke), but it will not raise premiums according to CBO. Stop spreading lies.

[MsUnpopular]

@kekemankek by cbo you mean Communist Barrack Obama right?

[MsUnpopular]

@quizerry i think that it is mostly a union pay-off and bailout, if the unions (which have squandered their pensions) fail that would lead people to see unions cannot be trusted with your money, well we cant have that, so average joe will have to bail them out thru this 2000 page monstrosity

[OBAMASTINIAN]

The debate has been over for awhile now,no means no,the Obama voters can get off the gravey train now,its not leaving the station.

[dkkght46]

FACT: In the Senate legislation, the cost of the coverage expansion is $871 billion between 2010 and 2019. Other spending in the bill totals about $90 billion over 10 years. With about $200 billion more for a permanent repeal of the Medicare physician fee cut, the Senate plan's total cost approaches $1.2 trillion. There is no reconciliation bill that exists. Not in the House. Not in the Senate. Nowhere. If so, where is it? Do you trust Pelosi & Reid with your healthcare?

[independentview1]

So the plan does not make insurance companies compete across state lines (that would lower prices), cuts billions from Medicare and still puts people in prison for not buying into Obamas plan. This buffoon thinks that's what Americans want?

[poisonapple16]

The error lies in the premise...

...most are assuming he actually wants health care for all.

He actually wants welfare for all; health care is an easier way of doing it.

[thelookout782]

my god leave me alone!!!!!

[poisonapple16]

???WTF

Get over yourself you're not that special...

[Wildkkat1]

Who Pelosi?

[poisonapple16]

If this has such resounding support, why has it already been signed into law.

You just said the demo-tards have majorities in both houses...

Could it be there are democrats opposing this bill.

Say it ain't so joe...

[lowellriggsiam]

This is what needed to see, like George Bush, he needed to develope a backbone.

[poisonapple16]

I can't wait for November...

[dkkght46]

the president's plan is essentially the Senate-passed bill with a few minor tweaks to appease House Democrats. Right now the only bipartisan agreement that exists on health care is opposition to the current plan. Someone should tell the president you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

[poisonapple16]

Geez, don't talk about the first lady that way :)

[poisonapple16]

Spoken like a true uninformed leftist twat.

I am amazed this republic has lasted this long with people like you in it.

[poisonapple16]

No, Fuck you; you imbecilic douche.

This proposed plan will be WORSE than what we have.

Hell, with all the bribes and kick backs it will be worse than Canada.

You too stupid or blind to realize you are being lied too.

You think your fucking doughnut holes are bad just wait until you are waiting in line for surgery.

You wait with you grandparents and watch them fade away. (I speak from experience)

At least now they can actually pay.

[jacknichols5]

Just another stupid nigger with his big plans. This will never fly. Meanwhile the hoe with the giant fat ass is selling obesity. When will this jig-a-boo get a white fur coat and hat and a giant gold dollar sign around his neck. Cant help but laugh at the head nigger in charge. Hahahalalalalalhahahahah

[wowmiles]

jackass is more like it, a internet warrior i suppose or perhaps even worse , just  ignorant white trash.your kind is a thing of the past, you dont matter.lol what a joke..

[poisonapple16]

I thought you were talking about your grandparents?

No? did you just make that crap up?

Are you a propagandist paid by the white house?

You talking points sound very suspicious.

[thelookout782]

I feel sorry for your children!! Everything is propaganda to you! Truth hurts huh? lol

[poisonapple16]

I long for some truth.

I find it completely ironic everything you left-tards whined about bush was you now have in ole big ears.

-he escalated the war in Afghanistan

-he ignores the electorate

-he ignores the constitution

-he is a fucking liar

Save your pity for my children...

I feel sorry for this nation.

[holgamods]

what do you expect from someone named MaralizeLegawana

LegalizeMarawana...... Nothing but progressive talking points from this idiot.....

[AmericaLoudNClear]

Poison, my eyes fail me with tears over this nation and now a communist nation.

[poisonapple16]

More fascist than communist.

And tears are for dreamers, liberals and Glenn Beck.

Call your Senator.

Be a pain in the ass.

It worked for the libs

[AmericaLoudNClear]

Beck has gotten pretty weak, huh?

I agree, FASCIST.

I am a pain in the ass.

Go to Google, and key in the Mad Jewess.

I go to all the Tea Parties, really loud protests more than anything. Have and DO write to MANY congressmen.

[poisonapple16]

Next is patience...

November approaches...

[thelookout782]

democrats will crush the republicans even more in november. CANT WAIT!!!!

[poisonapple16]

ROFLOLOL

Man, I would put money on that if you had a job.

[MsUnpopular]

@thelookout782 i think your right, the republicans better get out of the way when we vote the dems out of office, it will be quite the stampede

[thelookout782]

escalates the war to end it. that is just common sense. obama is the greatest president since kennedy! bush was the biggest fat liar the world has ever seen. wmd my ass. where are they? huh? false war he started! bush started. fuck bush and all the sheep who followed him blindly!

[poisonapple16]

Greatest president since Kennedy?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

OH that is some funny shit.

Let just say when ole big ears is done Jimmy Carter will no longer be the worst president in history.

[thelookout782]

God Bless Obama!! Republicans had over 8 yrs. to do something about healthcare in America! They didnt even bring it up! They are elitists who get off on the fact that there is no longer a middle class just rich and poor! And the "Tea Party" is a just a group of old rich white Republicans who cant stand the fact that there is a black man who is President! Btw i am white and proud that Obama is our President!

[poisonapple16]

If you were any dumber you would be Robert Gibbs.

You had at least 100 characters left you could have fit in two more talking points.

You are also a paid propagandist.

I can't believe anyone could be this stupid.

Then again you did support ole big ears.

[thelookout782]

Ole big ears is far more intelligent than either of the bushes combined. YOU are the one stupid! Like it or not middle aged white man CHANGE has come to America! And there is NOTHING you can do about it! Btw Robert Gibbs makes Georgr Bush look like a retard!!

[kxmode]

Do you know what the word constituent means? We don't live in a dictatorship. We have something call elections. Do nothing? There's plenty that can be done in a legal and civil manner.

[poisonapple16]

Ah November. This will be one summer that can't end fast enough

[sushinibbler]

@poisonapple16 --- agreed. I say throw them all out, freaking politicians. I say we revoke their pensions too.

[poisonapple16]

Really? What were his marks in college? He for that matter he won't even release his birth certificate. (This manufactured issue detracts from his failures)

As I recall, Bush graduated from Yale with an A average...

He was also a fighter pilot...

Besides organizing hippies, what has ole big ears done anyway?

[kxmode]

Apparently he got something called a Peace Prize? Whatever the hell that means...

[poisonapple16]

I thought there was a new category called 'president who isn't George Bush'; they just added it this year.

I guess this means the US president wins a Nobel peace prize in the first year of his term...

Unless there is a George Bush junior....

[kxmode]

Obama and his entire cabinet are one term wonders. They know it. That's why they're doing EVERYTHING they can to ran shit down our throats. Do they think we can't see what they're doing?

[poisonapple16]

Check out the video 'Michael Moore tells Glen Beck to F**k Off'

Those people couldn't see the train coming if it was parked on them....

[kxmode]

No thank you. Glenn Beck is certifiable.

[poisonapple16]

That's really not the point, read the comments...

[MsUnpopular]

i look at the issues and where they stand on them when i vote for someone not their race, obviously you must feel very superior being white and voting for a black man, unfortunately the man is a idiot that has no idea what he's doing, i truely hoped the best for him after the election, until his agenda and his lack of leadership ability became apparent, i would have the same opinion if he was white, red, yellow or green

[Beerseph]

LOL. People still think there are such things as Republicans and Democrats...

You can all thank Lincoln, Henry Clay, Hamilton, Johnson, Grant and the Federalist education system for the state of our great nation.

Its not Obama's fault that this country is packed with greedy and corrupt bastards.

Too bad, none of you seem to be aware that the anti-trust protections are being removed from health insurers... Know what that means? Less market power and thus lower prices...

[97VR4]

Obama, go back to Hawaii and leave America alone. You suck as a president and your loser congress has the lowest approval ratings ever in the history of the USA. Do us a favor, leave out health care system alone, besides, what's wrong with it?

[poisonapple16]

Linda Douglas? Is that you?

[poisonapple16]

The debate is over....

...this president is literally a lying bastard.

[poisonapple16]

What the hell makes you think this will help your grandparents?

Do you know anything about it?

Don't they have MEDICARE?

[wetweasel56]

Hey Obama!

Why are 12 million illegals working in the US when 15 million Americans are out of work?

[poisonapple16]

Good Question....

[wollysworldtv]

Thats not his fault, most of them came in the country when bush was in office. STOP BLAMING OBAMA FOR EVERYTHING!

[poisonapple16]

I can if I wanna he's the president.

It didn't stop you assholes when bush was in office.

[wetweasel56]

He has had a year to get these jobs from illegals back to the Americans that need them. And you say it's not his fault?

[AmericaLoudNClear]

wet: Now, how do you take away over 11 million jobs??

His DEATH CARE is FOR them