I see a lot of arguing over the forging process of these swords. I don't want to add to that. But I do want to ask about the process they are using here. It is my understanding that sword metal should be more stiff in some places, and more pliable in others. Wouldn't a solid piece of metal be evenly stiff/pliable all around?
The center does not cool more slowly. This is one of the purposes of the groove, in fact, though its main purpose is to lighten the blade. It is not true that homogenous steel was the goal of medieval sword smiths. The folding was done to attain homogeneity, but then the folded pieces were hammered together to form the blade, such that one relatively homogenous folded area had different properties than another. This allowed some areas to be harder, with softer areas to give strength vs shock
They test it on a steel drum routinely. Impressive. Have someone heard or seen that japanese swordsmiths test their sword this way, besides all the trash talk about mythical powers of tEh KatAna? I know only one video - freshly made Yoshihara blade Vs. ancient helmet, both japanese:
-- watch?v=2RpVjpaGdMg&#t=3m14s
Yoshihara made it painstakingly by hand, Albion did it with CNC. Both perform very similar. Honestly I don't see any benefits from "100% traditional making".
Cold forging a gun barrel is a matter of plunking a blank on a mandrel. Forging and grinding a sword the traditional way is a skill and labour intensive task. Comparing the two is like comparing American 'processed cheese product' to proper cheese.
Funnily enough, CNC machining remains common among high-end gunmakers.
Modern steel is fine. If it were available back then countries would have ate it up. I applaud, appreciate, and respect smiths for keeping a amazing skill alive, but "romantic" as some people say? I find NOTHING romantic about a hulk of a man that's hot, glistening with sweat, beating his "sword". :D . I don't get the "soul" thing either. It's shaped, sharpened steel. It's a weapon meant for maiming/killing, not a love partner OR religion. Smithed steel won't kill ya any more "deader" either.
Maybe not the making, but Albion swords are really great when it comes down to the handling of the blade. The balance is superb because they take the time to study real swords in museums and make many measurements of these blades.
So if you want a sword that behave like a real medieval sword but you don't care about the making, then Albion is for you.
It is not the same thing these swords crack after a mere 45-50 hits, go spar with a factory made sword you'll see. Lastly I would like to see them make a katana with the traditional tamahagane metal they would NEVER be able to do it right
my friends and people at the renessance are black smiths rly honestly id say this is better but still maybe what 150-200$?
i duno but thats all still a bunch of work for some pretty steel lol. but they say their swords are more sturdy so far all i know is my sword can bend rly far and snap back into place the dude at the store stabbed it into a car cut some of the car off then nearly bent it in half im not that strong lol
(finishing my though) chances of it failing under hard use. Medieval swordsmiths made swords in the manner that they did because it was the only means they had, not because it was 'better' or more 'noble' in some way. I guarantee you that if medieval smiths who had to worry about how their swords would perform in actual battle, had the manufacturing techniques that Albion employs they would abandon their forges in a heartbeat.
Lesser sword? Cheap? Please. A sword is a tool, nothing more. It may hold some sentimental value to some of us, but that does not change it's basic function. With the quality of modern steel and manufacturing techniques, forging a blade from rough stock is simply an obsolete means of production. Just because someone pours their blood, sweat and years into a blade over a coal forge and anvil does not imbue it with any special performance properties, and quite frankly actually increases the c
Well that is not a sword that is just a bunch of metal shaped to look like a sword. I make swords and other blacksmithing projects because I'm an apprentice and I make the the right way: with a kiln, a forge and an anvil. I don't make videos of it I'm not allowed
man, if a Black Smith went into the future, he would shit bricks!! pushed a fucking button, a belt that moves on its own, and the barrel... Im taking that damm barrel home!
Modern metallurgical methods are light years ahead compared to those of the medieval and renaissance smiths.Metal is better, technique is better, modern metal workers have absolutely no need of an anvil, hammer, tongs, bending forks etc, they do not have to go through the whole process of hammering, quenching , because it is obsolete.A hand forged blade is worse in every way compared to blade that is made by modern means.It may be historically accurate, but it's not even close to good any more.
@Vortexakos it depends on the metrics you are using though. this is a lesser version of a sword, not because it is lesser in quality, but lesser in authenticity. if we still actually used swords then this would be a better blade, as it's purpose would b to kill, but because we do not use them, then the only purpose they can fufill is their historic novelty, and if they were not created the same way then they cannot fufil their purpose as well.
but yeah, new methods make a better quality blade.
they mean it LOOKS like a sword fashioned from long ago...until I see a Smith pounding one of those out they dont have it right. Great sword and well done but still fake.
@offenwrong : You can have someone pound one out, make a lesser or same quality sword, and pay over 5 times the cost of this one then if you like, if the authenticity really means that much to you.
also.. there is close to no stress in the steel as a result of milling out the blade since its cooled troughout the whole process, any eventual stress would come from the preforged steel plade the blade is cut from.
@LordAzanko Not for SCA, if that's what you're thinking. You could use it for actual combat, but I suspect you'll void whatever warranty Albion provides.
tHAT there is a cheep ass sword..Americans pronounce medieval wrong too.. Its not mideval its medieval gettit? medie means middle ages in latin I beilieve..OR some other dead launguage
that is the Canadian narration for this show, and that sword is worth $800, which isn't cheap at all, albion and del tin are the most historicaly acurate mayor sword makers around so I think you´re mistaken there. kinda agree about the pronunciation though...
that is the Canadian narration for this show, so ir's not an American accent. and that sword is worth $800, which isn't cheap at all, albion and del tin are the most historicaly acurate mayor sword makers around so I think you´re mistaken there. kinda agree about the pronunciation though...
@Supertomiman Albion's a very historically accurate manufacturer, but Del Tins are heavy for what they are, so I'd dispute the claim that Del Tin is more historically accurate than say, Arms & Armor.
While I would prefer a sword by Paul Champagne, $10,000+ is pricey for a tree beater/training sword. This "modern" style is good enough until you can afford and fully appreciate a true reproduction that goes as far as melting magnetite into tamahagane and then billet/forge welding and then pattern welding true to the historical time period of the sword.
Cheaters... computer guided diamond bit shaping of sheet steel... Give me a fucking break... Where's the honor and manliness in this? The Japanese today still take every process from the smelting of the steel to the forging, grinding and polishing of the samurai's blade exactly as they did it 1000 years ago, Now THAT is art... THAT is spiritual. THAT puts the hearts of a hundred human beings into every blade as apprentices learn each step of the craft from masters who learned it from masters.
@bosatsu76 yeah, I was thinking the same thing when watching this video. It's just a mass produced piece of metal without a "soul" of the one who made it put into it. In my eyes it has absolutely no value.
@BleakCabaler I've got three sharps by these guys. Once you handle one, you'll hardly find a sword with more "soul". The designer spends his time in the great musems of Europe measuring surviving weapons to the smallest detail. I'd rather have one made partially by machine that was accurate and performed like the originals than one that was forged by hand but not accurate in performance and dimensions. :)
@bosatsu76 does it also put the blade into the hearts of a hundred human beings? and yes the majority of dai-katanas, katanas, wakazashi, tanto and so forth are also produced by this method nowadays, sad fact, no carbon nanotube reinforced 1000+ folds laminated steel unless you wish to fork out big bucks. anyways european swords NEVER had that much effort put into them anyways, and also remember that the artisan that created the CAD drawing of this sword and it's fixtures put in those hours..
@MrQualia Yea.. You are right. It's hardly the spiritual thing to create instruments of better killing. And I'll bet that Charlemagne would have given half his serfs for one good draftsman, his CAD program, the steel stock and the electricity to run the process.
@bosatsu76 i actually kind of agreed with you, just it was a slightly biased and idealised view you were putting out, and the reversal of the "hearts into the blade" was kind of too good a literary opportunity to miss.
@MrQualia You do realize that homogenous steel like we have today was the goal of the ancient forger? 1000 folds was a crutch used to spread carbon and other elements more evenly. The "legends" of damascus are false and the reason that all superior japanese swords are laminated. The folding & lamination made up for inferior properties of pattern welded or "damascus" steel.
@MrQualia : That's because European swords were made out of superior iron ore, and didn't HAVE to have as muchwork put into them to make them. No need to fold the steel or pattern weld, not necessarry.
@ranziel1 for real man. It just makes the blade heavier, the function of a pommel is to keep the handle in place... slashing sword would not want a counterweight, while maybe a stabbingsword .. Well i don't see Why you would want a counterweight at all. It fills no function. Imagine trying to slash someone i chainmail. You'd want as much force in the blow as possible. Not the entire weight placed in your hand. Catch My drift?
@MooseHunter911 Brute force isn't everything man. What if one missed? It could throw one completely off balance, and that is what the pommel on swords provide, balance. Baseball bats are used for one thing, swinging. Swords were for blocking/parrying, thrusting and slashing. And when in close quarter combat and the blade cannot be thrust or swung, one could bludgeon the foe with the pommel. A weapon with one function is very close minded.
@MooseHunter911 The pommel is very good for banging on your enemy's helmet at close quarters. Why would you want to break your blade against such a hard target, anyway? Even if the helmet for some reason refuses to collapse after repeated pommeling, the brain inside is rattled and probably dying. If you don't believe me, put on a good helmet and ask somebody to pommel you. Have fun. Knock yourself out.
@MooseHunter911 I suggest making a video of both incidents. 16 million views in a month would not be out of the question. I'm sure we're all trembling with anticipation. :)
@MooseHunter911 : No it doesn't, the idea is to be able to swing faster than your opponent. A counterweight makes the sword's POB more toward the hilt, which makes it easier to swing with grace. If you've ever actually used a variety of REAL swords you would know this.
Dumb bitch pommels are NOT counterweights!!! You want the sword to be "bladeheavy" like a baseballbat to get à good cutting-action and what if you had to block a blow? À blade With counterweight would easily be swept aside, while one without (wich is blade-heavy) would be much more harder. Jesus how can you make this without some research..
@MooseHunter911 : What are you talking about? Pommels ARE meant to be counterweights. A sword that is "bladeheavy" is a sign of a horrible forged sword. The best swords have a point of balance about 3 inches from the handguard down the blade. Blocking another blade doesn't become impossible with a counterweight, it becomes easier because you have more control over the blade. Just look up "pommel", and you'll instantly realize how wrong you are.
@Halofreakanoid for most one handed swords that is the case. but take a look at zweihanders. Completely blade heave but are they terrible blades? not at all! being blade heavy only means more force in the blow and less counterweight it does not always mean a bad sword. Not trying to argue dude just pointing that out
Hey, I Recently went to a medieval festival (A lot of fun) and I brought a sword. And I only found out now that it has a name and not just sum sword. But it looks kind of boring so I was thinking about getting sum thing engraved into it or sum fancy decorations (not like glitter) it will most likely only be for decoration or costumes, Any one got any ideas.
Yep very good although still crap compared to a Viking sword although I would still be open minded in saying the albion sword is stronger it really depends on the ore used and how the sword is forged one mistake and the steel will shatter with the first blow. I would still like to forge swords using the old methods and also why is it a yank talking they didn't even have knights the closest I recall would be aztec or myan I think I've Spelt that wrong but ohwell
@KissakiSan can't even remember what i said but it sure sounds like someone pissed in your corn flakes, u honestly think i would feel you were anything but an immature little prik for saying that? ooor did you think i would get all bitch pissy and blab all over the place, get a dik and grow up jr.
a handmade sword is so expensive that it sits on your wall because it's not worth it to use. a sword made like this is actually worth it because it can be used over and over and is much more easily replaced. sure it will cost you $500 for one and another $500 for another but at least it's not $2000 for an inferior sword that was made by some guy in his garage using inferior materials and methods
@HRage it is posibel i saw a plate of verry hard steel witch has cuts from a japanes sword made from damaszehne stell and the cuts was sure 1.5cm long. i promise i not lie
@Adrinator1 look the fun bit was they STATED it as such ...hint: smite - medieval phrase + mediaval weapon .... hopefully I needn't carry on. Lest thee smite me thus.
Albion also makes false edged stuff for $400-$550 order online. There are also blade blaks. For people who want to make their own hilt. They cost $140 u.s
If you trained with swords I think you would understand how useful this is. Albion can give you a really good sword that sure are expensive (but hey you can take much money if you are one of the best). But they are not nearly as expensive as handcrafted swords. If you however want a sword for artistic reason then albion perhaps isn't for you.
Then be prepared to pay ten times as much. I was a little disappointed that they don't do them by hand, but as an engineer, I've had training in materials science, and really what they're doing here is NOT any different than what the old masters did. The blades are receiving the exact same KIND of treatment that they would have a thousand years ago: The TOOLS are modern, but the PROCESS is the same. The end product is identical, if not actually better.
Those are 1). historically accurate replicas, accurate in handling, weight, balance and edge geometry. 2). Modern 1075 steel properly heat treated (~50HRC) will outclass ANY of old steels, whether european or japanese. All the "handmade folded is better" opinions come from people who do not useswords for test cutting.
The truth is, if Albion would have a time machine and would offer their swords to medieval warriors - those warriors would switch in an blink of an eye!
@bAkOsHiChA what does that even mean? they destroyed the fixture so that they could actually get the damn thing out of the metal plate to work on it. you have no idea what your talking about sir
@lusteraliaszero Actually, Albion swords are some of the best swords you can get without going custom. True, you can get better, but not MUCH better. :)
i went actually to many shows or museums to watch those old pieces, i have too smithed a sword by myself and talked to many blacksmiths about that theme.
so what do you want to hear frome me?
i´m just saying how it is so fuck this conversation anyhow
If you truly think that, then what you should do is clear: Shut up.
If you don't give a shit about the conversation, why the hell are you talking?
Oh and I just noticed: "smithed a sword by myself"
You've smithed A sword?
One sword, and you claim to be better than the noted Swedish swordsmith, author and researcher Peter Johnsson? ...who is praised by pretty much everyone who values historically accurate swords?
@TheTillinger123 1 1/2 year are nothing. even if you forged blades the whole time it would be like zero experience, and i hardly doubt you were on the anvil eight hours every workday.
@rogantu "swords were made to cut flesh, this baby cuts steel!"
Unless your talking about rather thin sheets of metal... You're an idiot.
No sword, or other implement, cuts steel ...unless you're talking about cutting quite slowly indeed (in which case there clearly are several implements), which clearly you're not.
That looks like a really nice quality sword for a reproduction,i would have one of those even though i would prefer one that is made the old fashioned way.
omg!!! it cuts paper =)
seriously.. katanas own this
dom01ful 2 days ago in playlist Science - How It's Made
i wonder how they make swords in old times
keevin1997 5 days ago
@xXxcraftyXx this is blacksmithing the steel made and tempered todays standards are better than ever blacksmithing really isnt special
volarion 6 days ago
"for thousands of years "??? ... not really
MyLineageII 1 week ago
There's no art in this. Blacksmithing is the way to go.
xXxcraftyXx 1 week ago
what happened to the male narrator?
pigeonmaster1 1 week ago
@pigeonmaster1 yeah i liked the male voice better
onelasttitan 1 week ago
industrial garbage..
30secondstomarscam 2 weeks ago
Best job in the world? Thumbs up if you agree.
toothpickcity2 2 weeks ago
I see a lot of arguing over the forging process of these swords. I don't want to add to that. But I do want to ask about the process they are using here. It is my understanding that sword metal should be more stiff in some places, and more pliable in others. Wouldn't a solid piece of metal be evenly stiff/pliable all around?
TheThomaswastaken 2 weeks ago
I love how it's made
Flubberykitty 2 weeks ago
What a soulless and discussing way to make a sword. This would be a piece of shit compared to a sword hand-made by an experience medieval blacksmith.
Nayrbarr1234 2 weeks ago
The center does not cool more slowly. This is one of the purposes of the groove, in fact, though its main purpose is to lighten the blade. It is not true that homogenous steel was the goal of medieval sword smiths. The folding was done to attain homogeneity, but then the folded pieces were hammered together to form the blade, such that one relatively homogenous folded area had different properties than another. This allowed some areas to be harder, with softer areas to give strength vs shock
TOMHYLE88 3 weeks ago
this is so cool.
angelicwarrior31 3 weeks ago in playlist My Greeting Videos
but will it kill my neighbor?
naumrusomarov 1 month ago 2
@naumrusomarov swords don't kill neighbors. Neighbors kill neighbors.
TOMHYLE88 3 weeks ago
2:03, sorry...
Protherium 1 month ago
2:23
They test it on a steel drum routinely. Impressive. Have someone heard or seen that japanese swordsmiths test their sword this way, besides all the trash talk about mythical powers of tEh KatAna? I know only one video - freshly made Yoshihara blade Vs. ancient helmet, both japanese:
-- watch?v=2RpVjpaGdMg&#t=3m14s
Yoshihara made it painstakingly by hand, Albion did it with CNC. Both perform very similar. Honestly I don't see any benefits from "100% traditional making".
Protherium 1 month ago
bogus.
almightywitey 1 month ago
nope its not a real sword unless crafted by a blacksmith
minesmit3214 1 month ago
@coinageboy Appeal to authority and logic fail.
Cold forging a gun barrel is a matter of plunking a blank on a mandrel. Forging and grinding a sword the traditional way is a skill and labour intensive task. Comparing the two is like comparing American 'processed cheese product' to proper cheese.
Funnily enough, CNC machining remains common among high-end gunmakers.
halfassedfart 1 month ago
Modern steel is fine. If it were available back then countries would have ate it up. I applaud, appreciate, and respect smiths for keeping a amazing skill alive, but "romantic" as some people say? I find NOTHING romantic about a hulk of a man that's hot, glistening with sweat, beating his "sword". :D . I don't get the "soul" thing either. It's shaped, sharpened steel. It's a weapon meant for maiming/killing, not a love partner OR religion. Smithed steel won't kill ya any more "deader" either.
damnonii 1 month ago
@damnonii I guess you need a vagina to appreciate the romanticism.
Also, it's not all about beating, there's plenty of grinding too!
halfassedfart 1 month ago
@halfassedfart Of course! Ha Ha, can't forget the grinding!
damnonii 1 month ago
albion makes great blades i love my liechtenaur sparring sword perfect balance and sturdy as hell.
volarion 3 months ago
FOR NARNIA
powerpunk1 3 months ago
I need one
Xx12ker 3 months ago
I will PLUNGE my sword
DEEP into the HEART
of this artichoke.
MrGuvnah 3 months ago 7
I SMITE THEE, foul metal barrel!
xINVISIGOTHx 3 months ago 2
@coinageboy Nope, always heated and hammered. Cold forging sword steel:
a) Is a pain in the ass
b) Does not give the HRC 50~55 required for a sword
c) Only works with low carbon steels that do not respond to heat treatment.
tl;dr: You're about as accurate as Ancient Aliens.
NotJustYouNoob 3 months ago
@coinageboy You're also full of shit. Gun barrels are cold forged because they need to put rifling on it.
NotJustYouNoob 3 months ago
FAKE!!! Ass sword
TheRebelEye 3 months ago
nothing about the making of this is true to the medievil original
dirtydq1992 3 months ago
@dirtydq1992
Maybe not the making, but Albion swords are really great when it comes down to the handling of the blade. The balance is superb because they take the time to study real swords in museums and make many measurements of these blades.
So if you want a sword that behave like a real medieval sword but you don't care about the making, then Albion is for you.
gurkfisk89 3 months ago
It is not the same thing these swords crack after a mere 45-50 hits, go spar with a factory made sword you'll see. Lastly I would like to see them make a katana with the traditional tamahagane metal they would NEVER be able to do it right
wolfmang22 4 months ago
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will this sword getting rusty,,,
long time ago in roman empire time did not use a machine, not a CNC, no a grind
bestamerica 4 months ago
@bestamerica : Yes it will. It's not made of stainless steel.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
Halofreakanoid,
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okay thank,,,
stainless steel can be rust,,,
yes very rare
bestamerica 4 months ago
@bestamerica :
Yes stainless can rust if the outer layer is worn off, or cut.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
my friends and people at the renessance are black smiths rly honestly id say this is better but still maybe what 150-200$?
i duno but thats all still a bunch of work for some pretty steel lol. but they say their swords are more sturdy so far all i know is my sword can bend rly far and snap back into place the dude at the store stabbed it into a car cut some of the car off then nearly bent it in half im not that strong lol
spoon527 4 months ago
(finishing my though) chances of it failing under hard use. Medieval swordsmiths made swords in the manner that they did because it was the only means they had, not because it was 'better' or more 'noble' in some way. I guarantee you that if medieval smiths who had to worry about how their swords would perform in actual battle, had the manufacturing techniques that Albion employs they would abandon their forges in a heartbeat.
beaumont007 4 months ago 2
Lesser sword? Cheap? Please. A sword is a tool, nothing more. It may hold some sentimental value to some of us, but that does not change it's basic function. With the quality of modern steel and manufacturing techniques, forging a blade from rough stock is simply an obsolete means of production. Just because someone pours their blood, sweat and years into a blade over a coal forge and anvil does not imbue it with any special performance properties, and quite frankly actually increases the c
beaumont007 4 months ago 3
Well that is not a sword that is just a bunch of metal shaped to look like a sword. I make swords and other blacksmithing projects because I'm an apprentice and I make the the right way: with a kiln, a forge and an anvil. I don't make videos of it I'm not allowed
wolfmang22 4 months ago
@wolfmang22 : It's the same damn thing, if so sometimes even better when modern metal working is used.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
man, if a Black Smith went into the future, he would shit bricks!! pushed a fucking button, a belt that moves on its own, and the barrel... Im taking that damm barrel home!
alvinperlas 4 months ago
No enchanting?
fladdy45 4 months ago 36
Modern metallurgical methods are light years ahead compared to those of the medieval and renaissance smiths.Metal is better, technique is better, modern metal workers have absolutely no need of an anvil, hammer, tongs, bending forks etc, they do not have to go through the whole process of hammering, quenching , because it is obsolete.A hand forged blade is worse in every way compared to blade that is made by modern means.It may be historically accurate, but it's not even close to good any more.
Vortexakos 5 months ago
@Vortexakos it depends on the metrics you are using though. this is a lesser version of a sword, not because it is lesser in quality, but lesser in authenticity. if we still actually used swords then this would be a better blade, as it's purpose would b to kill, but because we do not use them, then the only purpose they can fufill is their historic novelty, and if they were not created the same way then they cannot fufil their purpose as well.
but yeah, new methods make a better quality blade.
Treifla 4 months ago
they mean it LOOKS like a sword fashioned from long ago...until I see a Smith pounding one of those out they dont have it right. Great sword and well done but still fake.
offenwrong 5 months ago
@offenwrong : You can have someone pound one out, make a lesser or same quality sword, and pay over 5 times the cost of this one then if you like, if the authenticity really means that much to you.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
also.. there is close to no stress in the steel as a result of milling out the blade since its cooled troughout the whole process, any eventual stress would come from the preforged steel plade the blade is cut from.
Rhandahl 5 months ago 2
it almost sounds like she means to say that this method is better for making swords... silly woman
Rhandahl 5 months ago
so seeing that the smith was striking a barrel with the sword would that mean that they are battle ready?...
LordAzanko 5 months ago
@LordAzanko Not for SCA, if that's what you're thinking. You could use it for actual combat, but I suspect you'll void whatever warranty Albion provides.
NotJustYouNoob 5 months ago
@NotJustYouNoob its alright if i bought one i would not have any need for the warranty :)
LordAzanko 5 months ago
fucking cheaters...XD
Kelvarra 5 months ago
Valar Morghulis.
Snowyp 5 months ago
Cmedi2 retribution
darklordofsword 5 months ago
@bosatsu. Here here. But for someone looking for a battle ready EUROPEAN sword albion can't be beat. Cold steel can suck it
darklordofsword 5 months ago
Who else expected the man's voice?
PotentialFreedom 5 months ago
I really want one.
TheLeonardoKun 5 months ago
tHAT there is a cheep ass sword..Americans pronounce medieval wrong too.. Its not mideval its medieval gettit? medie means middle ages in latin I beilieve..OR some other dead launguage
callos1232 5 months ago
@callos1232
that is the Canadian narration for this show, and that sword is worth $800, which isn't cheap at all, albion and del tin are the most historicaly acurate mayor sword makers around so I think you´re mistaken there. kinda agree about the pronunciation though...
Supertomiman 5 months ago
@callos1232
that is the Canadian narration for this show, so ir's not an American accent. and that sword is worth $800, which isn't cheap at all, albion and del tin are the most historicaly acurate mayor sword makers around so I think you´re mistaken there. kinda agree about the pronunciation though...
Supertomiman 5 months ago
@Supertomiman Albion's a very historically accurate manufacturer, but Del Tins are heavy for what they are, so I'd dispute the claim that Del Tin is more historically accurate than say, Arms & Armor.
NotJustYouNoob 5 months ago
@callos1232 : You have no idea what you are talking about. Albion makes some of the finest swords on the market.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
This is going on my list of 'stuff to make before i die'.
TIMESWORDSMAN 5 months ago
"This softens the peen"
toesim 6 months ago
While I would prefer a sword by Paul Champagne, $10,000+ is pricey for a tree beater/training sword. This "modern" style is good enough until you can afford and fully appreciate a true reproduction that goes as far as melting magnetite into tamahagane and then billet/forge welding and then pattern welding true to the historical time period of the sword.
7x57mmMauser 6 months ago
watch?v=Szn6AHiQqto&feature=channel_video_title
MooseHunter911 6 months ago
Cheaters... computer guided diamond bit shaping of sheet steel... Give me a fucking break... Where's the honor and manliness in this? The Japanese today still take every process from the smelting of the steel to the forging, grinding and polishing of the samurai's blade exactly as they did it 1000 years ago, Now THAT is art... THAT is spiritual. THAT puts the hearts of a hundred human beings into every blade as apprentices learn each step of the craft from masters who learned it from masters.
bosatsu76 6 months ago
@bosatsu76 yeah, I was thinking the same thing when watching this video. It's just a mass produced piece of metal without a "soul" of the one who made it put into it. In my eyes it has absolutely no value.
BleakCabaler 6 months ago
@BleakCabaler I've got three sharps by these guys. Once you handle one, you'll hardly find a sword with more "soul". The designer spends his time in the great musems of Europe measuring surviving weapons to the smallest detail. I'd rather have one made partially by machine that was accurate and performed like the originals than one that was forged by hand but not accurate in performance and dimensions. :)
Kunstdesfechtens 6 months ago
@bosatsu76 does it also put the blade into the hearts of a hundred human beings? and yes the majority of dai-katanas, katanas, wakazashi, tanto and so forth are also produced by this method nowadays, sad fact, no carbon nanotube reinforced 1000+ folds laminated steel unless you wish to fork out big bucks. anyways european swords NEVER had that much effort put into them anyways, and also remember that the artisan that created the CAD drawing of this sword and it's fixtures put in those hours..
MrQualia 6 months ago
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bosatsu76 6 months ago
@MrQualia Yea.. You are right. It's hardly the spiritual thing to create instruments of better killing. And I'll bet that Charlemagne would have given half his serfs for one good draftsman, his CAD program, the steel stock and the electricity to run the process.
bosatsu76 6 months ago
@bosatsu76 i actually kind of agreed with you, just it was a slightly biased and idealised view you were putting out, and the reversal of the "hearts into the blade" was kind of too good a literary opportunity to miss.
MrQualia 6 months ago
@MrQualia You do realize that homogenous steel like we have today was the goal of the ancient forger? 1000 folds was a crutch used to spread carbon and other elements more evenly. The "legends" of damascus are false and the reason that all superior japanese swords are laminated. The folding & lamination made up for inferior properties of pattern welded or "damascus" steel.
7x57mmMauser 6 months ago 14
@MrQualia : That's because European swords were made out of superior iron ore, and didn't HAVE to have as muchwork put into them to make them. No need to fold the steel or pattern weld, not necessarry.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
@ranziel1 for real man. It just makes the blade heavier, the function of a pommel is to keep the handle in place... slashing sword would not want a counterweight, while maybe a stabbingsword .. Well i don't see Why you would want a counterweight at all. It fills no function. Imagine trying to slash someone i chainmail. You'd want as much force in the blow as possible. Not the entire weight placed in your hand. Catch My drift?
MooseHunter911 6 months ago
@MooseHunter911 Brute force isn't everything man. What if one missed? It could throw one completely off balance, and that is what the pommel on swords provide, balance. Baseball bats are used for one thing, swinging. Swords were for blocking/parrying, thrusting and slashing. And when in close quarter combat and the blade cannot be thrust or swung, one could bludgeon the foe with the pommel. A weapon with one function is very close minded.
444MudFan 6 months ago
@444MudFan hmh, you have a good point there, Although I think it depends entierly on the sword and the purpose, I have to agree with you.
MooseHunter911 6 months ago
@MooseHunter911 The pommel is very good for banging on your enemy's helmet at close quarters. Why would you want to break your blade against such a hard target, anyway? Even if the helmet for some reason refuses to collapse after repeated pommeling, the brain inside is rattled and probably dying. If you don't believe me, put on a good helmet and ask somebody to pommel you. Have fun. Knock yourself out.
jannevellamo 6 months ago
@jannevellamo If i ever get my dick cut off and have nothing to live for I will try it and have a friend post it on youtube!
MooseHunter911 6 months ago
@MooseHunter911 I suggest making a video of both incidents. 16 million views in a month would not be out of the question. I'm sure we're all trembling with anticipation. :)
jannevellamo 6 months ago
@jannevellamo lolol I'll have a friend send it to you if it happens and I die, otherwise I send it myself, ok? ok. :D
MooseHunter911 6 months ago
@MooseHunter911 : No it doesn't, the idea is to be able to swing faster than your opponent. A counterweight makes the sword's POB more toward the hilt, which makes it easier to swing with grace. If you've ever actually used a variety of REAL swords you would know this.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
how to make a sword
step 1:sharpen the ends of a toy sword
step 2:have fun with your sword
legomasters10 6 months ago
Dumb bitch pommels are NOT counterweights!!! You want the sword to be "bladeheavy" like a baseballbat to get à good cutting-action and what if you had to block a blow? À blade With counterweight would easily be swept aside, while one without (wich is blade-heavy) would be much more harder. Jesus how can you make this without some research..
MooseHunter911 6 months ago
@MooseHunter911 Are you for real or just trolling? If it's the former, seek lobotomy help immediately!
Ranziel1 6 months ago
@MooseHunter911 : What are you talking about? Pommels ARE meant to be counterweights. A sword that is "bladeheavy" is a sign of a horrible forged sword. The best swords have a point of balance about 3 inches from the handguard down the blade. Blocking another blade doesn't become impossible with a counterweight, it becomes easier because you have more control over the blade. Just look up "pommel", and you'll instantly realize how wrong you are.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
@Halofreakanoid for most one handed swords that is the case. but take a look at zweihanders. Completely blade heave but are they terrible blades? not at all! being blade heavy only means more force in the blow and less counterweight it does not always mean a bad sword. Not trying to argue dude just pointing that out
LordHereck 4 months ago
@LordHereck : Right, a counterweight on a two-handed sword has less use than on a one-handed one, but it does make them easier to swing.
You seemed like you were trying to argue when you furiously shouted your incorrect facts.
Halofreakanoid 4 months ago
I prefer my swords smith made.
Mikerosoftt 6 months ago
@Mikerosoftt Yeah...
How many swords do you have?
Jings0b 6 months ago
I like the idea of skipping past one of the most important steps in making a blade by simply cutting out a blank in a CNC machine.
AH1zGhost 6 months ago
my bro has a copy of the sword from the last samurai
TheKilohn 6 months ago
katanas are the best swords ever
koshan12 6 months ago
@koshan12 no
RoninAvenger 5 months ago
Hey, I Recently went to a medieval festival (A lot of fun) and I brought a sword. And I only found out now that it has a name and not just sum sword. But it looks kind of boring so I was thinking about getting sum thing engraved into it or sum fancy decorations (not like glitter) it will most likely only be for decoration or costumes, Any one got any ideas.
cmedi2 6 months ago
@cmedi2 Keep it plain. Just me though, fancy swords bother me.
kop4321 6 months ago
The only swords worth owning are the japanese Katana's.
Dreez76 6 months ago
@Dreez76 weab0
b1bIs1337 6 months ago
@Dreez76 Rapiers are WAY better.
Yoachan 6 months ago
I'm not gonna lie, this was kinda cool.
Afronic12 7 months ago
Yep very good although still crap compared to a Viking sword although I would still be open minded in saying the albion sword is stronger it really depends on the ore used and how the sword is forged one mistake and the steel will shatter with the first blow. I would still like to forge swords using the old methods and also why is it a yank talking they didn't even have knights the closest I recall would be aztec or myan I think I've Spelt that wrong but ohwell
LittleJamesL 7 months ago
Excellent Video! Talk about mixing technologies! The old and the new! OMG! Fantastic job guys!
flemingjim1953 7 months ago
Does anyone know the name of the melody that is being played in this clip?
GarrettThomasUTube 7 months ago
Hello,
I really want to buy a replica katana, but mostcosts 30 bucks, and I don't think it will be good quality. Help?
99hamseine 7 months ago
Wow, hear I thought I was going to see a blacksmith tempering steel with steel. Then I see some idiot with a CNC machine and fucking epoxy handles.
JerridPayne 7 months ago
@JerridPayne stock removal is historically accurate but I get what you mean
american and west European artisans usually overcharge for their pieces but Albion takes it to a whole new level
negroape 7 months ago
@KissakiSan can't even remember what i said but it sure sounds like someone pissed in your corn flakes, u honestly think i would feel you were anything but an immature little prik for saying that? ooor did you think i would get all bitch pissy and blab all over the place, get a dik and grow up jr.
Robertahausen 7 months ago
WOW
alexanderdieguez 7 months ago
a handmade sword is so expensive that it sits on your wall because it's not worth it to use. a sword made like this is actually worth it because it can be used over and over and is much more easily replaced. sure it will cost you $500 for one and another $500 for another but at least it's not $2000 for an inferior sword that was made by some guy in his garage using inferior materials and methods
ishouldplayzelda 7 months ago
1. Folding and hammering was only used to ensure a equal level of carbon and thus quality throughout the blade.
2. They fricking used this very technique when the steelforging got better but instead of cutting with a CNC they grinded it.
3. I understand that you want your katana folded for a proper Hamon but really, if they folded the steel used in this video they only weakened it.
Hand-made is for sentimental value only.
Pottan23 7 months ago
@Pottan23 And a sword isn't for sentimental value?
Serostern 5 months ago
@Serostern
It can also be a training tool.
gurkfisk89 5 months ago
It's so beautiful...
So, so beautiful
CharlieStanebayers 7 months ago
2:02 "They smite a metal barrel with it" LMFAO
XD
HRage 7 months ago 33
@HRage I SHALL SMITE THEEE!!! metal barrel...? O_o
cardenw 6 months ago
@HRage lol I know
RoninAvenger 5 months ago
@HRage it is posibel i saw a plate of verry hard steel witch has cuts from a japanes sword made from damaszehne stell and the cuts was sure 1.5cm long. i promise i not lie
Watterpolo 5 months ago
@HRage Aaaaand what exactly is so unbelivable funny?!
Adrinator1 4 months ago
@HRage Aaaaand what exactly is so unbelivable funny?!
Adrinator1 4 months ago
@Adrinator1 look the fun bit was they STATED it as such ...hint: smite - medieval phrase + mediaval weapon .... hopefully I needn't carry on. Lest thee smite me thus.
Hint: Quotes in remark
HRage 3 months ago
@HRage why that's funny is....beyond me
NemanorTheAlmighty 3 months ago
Who even buys it...
Vesivian 8 months ago
Albion also makes false edged stuff for $400-$550 order online. There are also blade blaks. For people who want to make their own hilt. They cost $140 u.s
darklordofsword 8 months ago
wow!
Nizami0077 8 months ago
Was I the only one that thought "Fable"?
2dog14 8 months ago
thumbs up if Albion reminds you Fable
yuksel4 8 months ago 3
"this softens the peen"
YAYTWATFART 8 months ago
@YAYTWATFART "peen block"
junglemonkeymann 8 months ago
This makes me sad, to see that sword making has lost its originality and traditional values.
serensnipe 8 months ago
@serensnipe
If you trained with swords I think you would understand how useful this is. Albion can give you a really good sword that sure are expensive (but hey you can take much money if you are one of the best). But they are not nearly as expensive as handcrafted swords. If you however want a sword for artistic reason then albion perhaps isn't for you.
gurkfisk89 8 months ago
I love my swords, but a hand-crafted and smithed blade is far more personal and a LOT nicer to have than something cut and edged with a machine.
BYERE 9 months ago
@BYERE
Then be prepared to pay ten times as much. I was a little disappointed that they don't do them by hand, but as an engineer, I've had training in materials science, and really what they're doing here is NOT any different than what the old masters did. The blades are receiving the exact same KIND of treatment that they would have a thousand years ago: The TOOLS are modern, but the PROCESS is the same. The end product is identical, if not actually better.
JohnnyWishbone85 8 months ago 2
43 PEOPLE ARE LONG-RANGE CHARACTERS
Catemonster 9 months ago 89
@Catemonster so what? i like long-ranged char and wep too . is that a crime?
MandMJob 7 months ago
@Catemonster LOL, good one.
lordpoee 6 months ago
@Catemonster ahahahahahaauhauhauhauahuah
Marknopfler88 6 months ago
I own 2 Albion swords and they are worth every penny. That are like 1300000 pennies!
darkfiete 9 months ago
what a piece of shit...
ThorgalsWalhalla 9 months ago
@ThorgalsWalhalla
Those are 1). historically accurate replicas, accurate in handling, weight, balance and edge geometry. 2). Modern 1075 steel properly heat treated (~50HRC) will outclass ANY of old steels, whether european or japanese. All the "handmade folded is better" opinions come from people who do not useswords for test cutting.
The truth is, if Albion would have a time machine and would offer their swords to medieval warriors - those warriors would switch in an blink of an eye!
Protherium 7 months ago
I know that Albion swords are one of the best on the market but this price for a weapon that was made 80% by machines...No!
radopunk 9 months ago
@KainColt there is a different structure in a sword that has ben beaten into submission.
Serostern 9 months ago
lol, did u see how they destroyed a fixture during the cut at 1:02 ... bunch of noobs
bAkOsHiChA 9 months ago
@bAkOsHiChA what does that even mean? they destroyed the fixture so that they could actually get the damn thing out of the metal plate to work on it. you have no idea what your talking about sir
ishouldplayzelda 7 months ago
NOW I WANT TO WORK IN A SWORD FACTORY!
birdeeboo 9 months ago 2
Not surprising that the workers look like descendants of vikings.
n3rdbear 9 months ago
where can you buy it?
Valkmir 10 months ago
@Valkmir Albion Swords
NemanorTheAlmighty 9 months ago
i dont know...i prefer if a real blacksmith make my sward...not some machine...
Sabq 10 months ago
a female narrator ? WTF
LegendarySilverWolf 10 months ago
@LegendarySilverWolf why ? cant females narrat?
coolncutegirl21 10 months ago
@coolncutegirl21
yes its just guy was better
LegendarySilverWolf 10 months ago
@LegendarySilverWolf so what even females have the right to do wateva men do lyk builder doctor etc
coolncutegirl21 10 months ago
that seems like a pretty low quality sword to show off in a 'how it's made'
couldn't have been that hard to find the production of a high-budget sword, could it?
lusteraliaszero 10 months ago
@lusteraliaszero Actually, Albion swords are some of the best swords you can get without going custom. True, you can get better, but not MUCH better. :)
Kunstdesfechtens 10 months ago
@Kunstdesfechtens it did seem like quite a bother to cut through that paper.
lusteraliaszero 10 months ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
i went actually to many shows or museums to watch those old pieces, i have too smithed a sword by myself and talked to many blacksmiths about that theme.
so what do you want to hear frome me?
i´m just saying how it is so fuck this conversation anyhow
TheTillinger123 10 months ago
@TheTillinger123 Just watch?
The smith who designed the Albion blades, has made many careful measurements of countless museum pieces.
He is aware of the centre of balance and percussion on the swords, and what effect that has.
He is well versed in the Oakeshott typology, Petersen typology ETC and much research on swords.
He has some knowledge of medieval swordsmanship.
How much of that is true of you? Are you, in any way, qualified to judge if your sword are better or worse than Albion's?
ZarlanTheGreen 10 months ago
@TheTillinger123 "so fuck this conversation anyhow"
Really?
If you truly think that, then what you should do is clear: Shut up.
If you don't give a shit about the conversation, why the hell are you talking?
Oh and I just noticed: "smithed a sword by myself"
You've smithed A sword?
One sword, and you claim to be better than the noted Swedish swordsmith, author and researcher Peter Johnsson? ...who is praised by pretty much everyone who values historically accurate swords?
Arrogance much?
ZarlanTheGreen 10 months ago
i thought this was gonna be about fable but it's still cool
GoodMcGee 10 months ago
this swords suck balls for sure, i have been smithing for like half a year and even i could do better
TheTillinger123 10 months ago
@TheTillinger123 Better than the swords that are widely regarded as amongst, if not the, best and most historically accurate around?
Really?
How much do your swords weigh?
Where is the point of balance?
Where is the centre of percussion?
Which blade, guard and pommel types have you made (according to Oakeshott's typology)
Has anyone studying Historical European Martial Arts, compared one of your blades to those by Albion?
ZarlanTheGreen 10 months ago
@TheTillinger123 ...oh and I forgot to ask:
How many medieval swords (i.e. not reproductions, but actual museum pieces) have you seen, handled, made careful measurements of and so on?
ZarlanTheGreen 10 months ago
@TheTillinger123 1 1/2 year are nothing. even if you forged blades the whole time it would be like zero experience, and i hardly doubt you were on the anvil eight hours every workday.
darkfiete 9 months ago
just a few more months until I can buy my extreme quality sword for $260 guarantied to last 2 years even with use.
swords were made to cut flesh, this baby cuts steel!
rogantu 10 months ago
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@rogantu "swords were made to cut flesh, this baby cuts steel!"
Unless your talking about rather thin sheets of metal... You're an idiot.
No sword, or other implement, cuts steel ...unless you're talking about cutting quite slowly indeed (in which case there clearly are several implements), which clearly you're not.
ZarlanTheGreen 10 months ago
I prefer a forged blade. It might be more expensive, but you know somebody has put some time into it.
BarneySaysHi 10 months ago
That looks like a really nice quality sword for a reproduction,i would have one of those even though i would prefer one that is made the old fashioned way.
TheOverfiendDj 10 months ago
that is not a sledge hammer it is called a hand mall got it
RichardOhKaNoi 10 months ago
Wow 3000 dollars?
I wonder why
I mean it disnt seem so hard to make and the materials cant worth so much either
so why?
JohnKeotes 10 months ago
@JohnKeotes "I wonder why"
Research, quality, labour, quality, research... did I mention quality and research?
Also, they're not as cheap to make, when you actually make them properly, as you'd think.
ZarlanTheGreen 10 months ago
@ZarlanTheGreen Yes I understand its just that it didnt seem so long or dificult a process
and what do you mean by research?
JohnKeotes 10 months ago
@JohnKeotes Learning to smith, learning at least some basic swordsmanship, reading up on all the resear