Whether it is appropriate or inappropriate is a subjective question, not an objective one. I am asking YOU if YOU think that it is appropriate. If so, then take it one step farther. Do you think that it is appropriate for the Ambassador to be a spy?
You are right about no one else talking about this. I have not heard anyone say it either. I actually think original thoughts. Just because I am a minority of 1 does not mean that I am wrong.
You seem to be the one confused. I am talking about ethics. I never said that the ambassador was a spy. I asked if YOU think that it is ethical for an ambassador's spouse (or an ambassador) to be a spy. You refuse to answer even the simplest question. I am only asking hypothetical questions about ethics.
I was just always under the impression that Ambassador's were supposed to be trusted by BOTH sides. That is why they are allowed to send unchecked diplomatic pouches through customs.
It is not appropriate for the spouse of an Ambassador to be a Government spy. Period. Foreign governments need to be able to trust our Ambassadors to be honorable.
Do you we that it is appropriate to send an Ambassador to a country and have his wife spying on that country at the same time? Do you have a copy of the oath that Ambassadors must take? I do not, but would like to see it.
Hayden is lying, the bitch's handler at te CIA clearly stated she wasn't covert....seems to me the agency(aka the soviet owned CIA) is lying and forging document formulating their own left-wing sabotage opinions again....just lik they did to smear Angleton and Golitsyn...sickening....but the leftwing assholes will continue tis farce about her being covert sitting behind a fucking desk in Langley DAY AFTER DAY! Fact she wasn't overseas under the IIPA, she was an analyst, and a bad one at that.
delta..the fact that you are calling her a bitch exposes you as hardly without agenda. The head of the CIA wasn't found to be lying now was he? Your comment that she was a bad agent sinks your agenda even farther down the toilet. Shame on you for putting your party above country.
AmericanPatriotJeffFisher reporting to you, Tom Heneghan y Interpol y J.D. Bell of the United Secret Service from Philadelphia, Pennslylvania.
Handing out more flyers and writing wonderful statements about God like you told Tom Heneghan to have relayed to me via Interpol.
Today they will be in Arabic e Bulgarian y Croatian e Czech e Danish e Dutch and Finnish et French e German und Greek y Italion e Norwegian & Polish & Portugese & Romainian & Russian & Espanol y Swedish
The poster of this video didn't prove shit. I viewed it repeatedly, and Wallace hardly said a thing. When he did speak, it was with a sarcastic tone. I've had some issues with FNC in recent years, but I have to say that there is no nothing there. I actually think he was countering Hume a bit, but didn't go overboard.
@ishmaiden Obviously you missed the obvious-Richard Armitage leaked the classified information, but never faced prosecution! I will repeat, Richard Armitage leaked the classified information but never faced prosecution! Again, Richard Armitage leaked the classified information but never faced prosecution!!! This obviously DOES prove shit but you're just too stupid to realize it!!!!
As to there live being 'destroyed' pleaseee! they get better reaction at moveon and leftist group sessions than Ric Flair gets in a sold-out arena in Charlotte, North Carolina (he lives there currently)
the fact is Wilson's greatest triumph was being ambassador to a couple of shithile african nations most americans-even those who didn't attend public schools-couldn't show on a map, Plame was a pencil pushing desk jockey and wilson and his wife has become martyrs for bush haters
Joe Wilson said more than once that his goal in 2003 was "to bring down the neocons and this regime" so what were Libby and others supposed to do? just sit around and let it happen?
Please provide reference links. I don't dispute that Joe Wilson may have said what you "quote," but his having done so wouldn't change the facts of what occurred in the run-up to the (now demonstrably illegal) invasion of Iraq or the arguably illegal actions of members of the Bush Administration in outing a covert CIA operative (to punish a whistleblower and to set an example for other potential critics).
(continuing) Rather than spouting the random, puerile talking-point nonsense of the 28%ers, get acquainted with the facts in evidence and muster the courage to face the now obvious: the Bush Administration is the most corrupt administration since U.S. Grant, having lied the country into an unnecessary, unproductive, ill-advised & illegal war, and we've long since passed a reasonable threshold for impeachment -- let alone the absurdly low "Clinton threshold" set just a decade ago.
NO COVERT "AGENTS" Work at Langley to obvious, guaranteed failure rate of any succes at keeping "identidy" hidden. Her "cover was not blown" as she used no fucking cover as has een so soundly confirmed....FACT SHE GAVE GORE MONEY THROUGH HER NON-CIA FRONT WITHHER OWN DAMN NAME! DATA MINING TODAY WOULD EAT THAT SHIT ALIVE......fact she has provided no evidence she was covert, and the bitch never was....despite the nastty moles in the CAI doing the Soviet dirty work....
Okay left-wing piece of shit, you continue your fantases concerning the CIA and Plame etc. problem is she wasn't covert, that is a traditional maniupulation done by the lying left-wing CIA. Wilson is a know-nothing dingbat sent to ask questions(which he did a shitty job of) of Nigerian officials conernign something that had been confirmed time and again by previous intel....fact this forgery was planted as a smear of the Bush admin, it was never apart of the intel used
Fox News is so revolting I hardly know what to do with myself. How can these bastards sit there and spout this Bush propaganda? How can they live with themselves. It makes me sick. It can't be legal to lie like that, day after day.
These disgusting, oily bastards can pontificate all day long about Valerie Plame and it won't change the grim reality that the rest of us, We The People, are no longer swallowing their crap--especially that of Bloody William Kristol, who looks like a giant lizard just waiting to gobble down more blood money.
wittumy,
Whether it is appropriate or inappropriate is a subjective question, not an objective one. I am asking YOU if YOU think that it is appropriate. If so, then take it one step farther. Do you think that it is appropriate for the Ambassador to be a spy?
You are right about no one else talking about this. I have not heard anyone say it either. I actually think original thoughts. Just because I am a minority of 1 does not mean that I am wrong.
mugwump666 3 years ago
mug....you're confused...Plame was the spy. I believe he was on a fact finding mission, openly asking questions.
wittumy 3 years ago
You seem to be the one confused. I am talking about ethics. I never said that the ambassador was a spy. I asked if YOU think that it is ethical for an ambassador's spouse (or an ambassador) to be a spy. You refuse to answer even the simplest question. I am only asking hypothetical questions about ethics.
I was just always under the impression that Ambassador's were supposed to be trusted by BOTH sides. That is why they are allowed to send unchecked diplomatic pouches through customs.
mugwump666 3 years ago
mug...where are you trying to go with this?
Spying is never ethical but it's a necessary evil.
wittumy 3 years ago
Not talking about spying, I am talking about Ambassadors and how they should behave. I understand about spying, shesh!
You seem to be purposefully trying to misdirect the question each time. I guess your behavior will have to be answer enough.
mugwump666 2 years ago
It is not appropriate for the spouse of an Ambassador to be a Government spy. Period. Foreign governments need to be able to trust our Ambassadors to be honorable.
mugwump666 3 years ago
mugwump.....where's the rules or law that back up what you say?
wittumy 3 years ago
I said "not appropriate", not "illegal".
Do you we that it is appropriate to send an Ambassador to a country and have his wife spying on that country at the same time? Do you have a copy of the oath that Ambassadors must take? I do not, but would like to see it.
mugwump666 3 years ago
During the entire matter I've never heard anyone say it's inappropriate either. Where is it said it would be?
wittumy 3 years ago
Hayden is lying, the bitch's handler at te CIA clearly stated she wasn't covert....seems to me the agency(aka the soviet owned CIA) is lying and forging document formulating their own left-wing sabotage opinions again....just lik they did to smear Angleton and Golitsyn...sickening....but the leftwing assholes will continue tis farce about her being covert sitting behind a fucking desk in Langley DAY AFTER DAY! Fact she wasn't overseas under the IIPA, she was an analyst, and a bad one at that.
deltapunk21 3 years ago
delta..the fact that you are calling her a bitch exposes you as hardly without agenda. The head of the CIA wasn't found to be lying now was he? Your comment that she was a bad agent sinks your agenda even farther down the toilet. Shame on you for putting your party above country.
wittumy 3 years ago
Mr. President,
AmericanPatriotJeffFisher reporting to you, Tom Heneghan y Interpol y J.D. Bell of the United Secret Service from Philadelphia, Pennslylvania.
Handing out more flyers and writing wonderful statements about God like you told Tom Heneghan to have relayed to me via Interpol.
Today they will be in Arabic e Bulgarian y Croatian e Czech e Danish e Dutch and Finnish et French e German und Greek y Italion e Norwegian & Polish & Portugese & Romainian & Russian & Espanol y Swedish
GodBlessGoreFisher 3 years ago
The poster of this video didn't prove shit. I viewed it repeatedly, and Wallace hardly said a thing. When he did speak, it was with a sarcastic tone. I've had some issues with FNC in recent years, but I have to say that there is no nothing there. I actually think he was countering Hume a bit, but didn't go overboard.
ishmaiden 3 years ago 3
@ishmaiden Obviously you missed the obvious-Richard Armitage leaked the classified information, but never faced prosecution! I will repeat, Richard Armitage leaked the classified information but never faced prosecution! Again, Richard Armitage leaked the classified information but never faced prosecution!!! This obviously DOES prove shit but you're just too stupid to realize it!!!!
rlsdenker28 1 year ago
Me thinks Hume doth protest overmuch. I love his pained expressions. May he squirm and squirm and squirm.
dyannne 4 years ago
Hume is a turd. Plame was covert and was outed by the Dumbya administration. These traitors need a jail cell.
Neoconhater 4 years ago
As to there live being 'destroyed' pleaseee! they get better reaction at moveon and leftist group sessions than Ric Flair gets in a sold-out arena in Charlotte, North Carolina (he lives there currently)
cardsguy76 4 years ago
the fact is Wilson's greatest triumph was being ambassador to a couple of shithile african nations most americans-even those who didn't attend public schools-couldn't show on a map, Plame was a pencil pushing desk jockey and wilson and his wife has become martyrs for bush haters
cardsguy76 4 years ago
Joe Wilson said more than once that his goal in 2003 was "to bring down the neocons and this regime" so what were Libby and others supposed to do? just sit around and let it happen?
cardsguy76 4 years ago
Please provide reference links. I don't dispute that Joe Wilson may have said what you "quote," but his having done so wouldn't change the facts of what occurred in the run-up to the (now demonstrably illegal) invasion of Iraq or the arguably illegal actions of members of the Bush Administration in outing a covert CIA operative (to punish a whistleblower and to set an example for other potential critics).
plooger 4 years ago
(continuing) Rather than spouting the random, puerile talking-point nonsense of the 28%ers, get acquainted with the facts in evidence and muster the courage to face the now obvious: the Bush Administration is the most corrupt administration since U.S. Grant, having lied the country into an unnecessary, unproductive, ill-advised & illegal war, and we've long since passed a reasonable threshold for impeachment -- let alone the absurdly low "Clinton threshold" set just a decade ago.
plooger 4 years ago
NO COVERT "AGENTS" Work at Langley to obvious, guaranteed failure rate of any succes at keeping "identidy" hidden. Her "cover was not blown" as she used no fucking cover as has een so soundly confirmed....FACT SHE GAVE GORE MONEY THROUGH HER NON-CIA FRONT WITHHER OWN DAMN NAME! DATA MINING TODAY WOULD EAT THAT SHIT ALIVE......fact she has provided no evidence she was covert, and the bitch never was....despite the nastty moles in the CAI doing the Soviet dirty work....
deltapunk21 3 years ago
Okay left-wing piece of shit, you continue your fantases concerning the CIA and Plame etc. problem is she wasn't covert, that is a traditional maniupulation done by the lying left-wing CIA. Wilson is a know-nothing dingbat sent to ask questions(which he did a shitty job of) of Nigerian officials conernign something that had been confirmed time and again by previous intel....fact this forgery was planted as a smear of the Bush admin, it was never apart of the intel used
deltapunk21 3 years ago
Fox News is so revolting I hardly know what to do with myself. How can these bastards sit there and spout this Bush propaganda? How can they live with themselves. It makes me sick. It can't be legal to lie like that, day after day.
chiefnugt 4 years ago
These disgusting, oily bastards can pontificate all day long about Valerie Plame and it won't change the grim reality that the rest of us, We The People, are no longer swallowing their crap--especially that of Bloody William Kristol, who looks like a giant lizard just waiting to gobble down more blood money.
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plooger 4 years ago