The story of the great flood is an ancient ancestral story/memory that is in the earliest writing of man all over the entire world (even in the native american stories of the new world)
I think this dates back to the actual flood that the earth experienced as the last ice age ended (circa 12,000 yrs ago). I also think that mankind has progressed into golden ages and regressed b4 Babylon. Civilazation could be over 5,000 yrs older than we know... ie. atlantis ect
@InternetDarkLord you say it w such authority ..it must be true. >>>???? their are hundreds of sites that people say are for sure Atlantis. Plato's original description said that it "sank into the sea' almost 12,000 years ago.(9600bc) I'm pretty sure that plato wasn't an idiot and he realized what he was saying. It could be a myth or a parable but I was just musing on the what if's
Giants are impossible, because the mass of an object scales up in cubes, length times height, times width, but the supporting legs in squares, width times length. That is why large sauropods had 4 massive legs.
Thanks for replying back... I think you make some really great points and that overall you're a smart person.
I really wish I could subscribe to you but all all my friends and family are Christians and only about 4 people know I'm an atheist. Sometimes I wish everyone would know and still treat me the same so I could favorite and like evolution videos and things like that :/.
Try fitting 2 of every American in that ark, wouldn't be enough Micky Ds to sustain human life let alone two(really seven in chapter 7, nice) of every animals. Wait about whales?
I tried talking to a friend about how God said "Man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil" And he just shaked it off saying it was "LIKE" god... as in just knowing the difference between good and evil" And i said well whats the problem in that? The conversation went on... And well... I Kind of lost :p
@ChuriAMVids I don't know how the rest of the conversation went...but I agree with you...What IS the problem with knowing the difference between good and evil? I find that to be a "good" thing and had they HAD that knowledge, perhaps they would have obeyed their god! However, another thing I like to throw out there for those that think Adam and Eve ate the fruit and that is how we know "right from wrong"...then explain psychopaths?! Also, did my dog eat the fruit? They've learned to obey!
why do angels need male reproductive ograns or even the human desire for sex? is heaven populated like earth? as far as i was told there are no female angels and so no angel babies.... it does makes sense.
Angels are sexless. Heaven will be like earth because it will be on earth after God returns the earth to its condition in the first age where it was a paradise.
the church teaches that there are no female angels and the bible always mentions them in the masculine. Angels in the bible have masculine names. but my point is if angels are sexless why would they desire to sleep with humanly women? it sounds like a mythical tale to me.
Which church? THE church as in Catholic? The fallen angels came to earth in flesh to seduce women and to produce corrupt offspring. That is one reason God brought on the flood.
Jim, you danced around and then fell all over B4's point. If the angel was "sexless" then why would it want to seduce WOMEN and how would it "produce [ANY] offspring?"
Sorry. I am recovering from a stroke and sometimes have a hard time with communications. The reason is that same reason that Satan impreganted Eve to give birth to Cain. Abel is Adams son. Cain isnt. Fallen angels could take human form and do what human men could do. They did this so they could seduce and create offspring. The offspring were giants. Literally. Goliath most likely came from that. They did this mainly to try and corrupt the bloodline to Christ. Didnt work.
What Jim says here is a notion held by one Arnold Murray from the Shepherd's Chapel out of Arkansas. He has a TV broadcast where he sits at a desk and proceeds to badly interpret the Bible for an hour every morning.
And, you are right, it is not supported by biblical scripture. Murray's a total quack.
@B4mytyme Not to mention Revelations say the 144,000 who goes to heaven are virgins that haven't lain with women. The Bible doesn't expect women to lay with women so it's safe to say 144,000 men will go to heaven. Of course Revelation is symbolic, well except for the Lake of Fire, that isn't. Theist logic. Symbolic or not, it sounds like a sauage fest in heaven.
@gothicfog Yes most would have died because of the changes in the aquatic environment ... it would have been (if correct) almost as devastating as the effects on land animals
@Edwarddoom Well i guess it makes sense considering the mixture of salt water + fresh water. And the change in atmospheric temperature and pressure WOULD be pretty catastrophic.
OMG!!!! HE made a mistake mr infallible lies about the one son and pissed cus hes goofed and people say that hes perfect and BUYBULL says "I GOD made crap opps i f****up and now becuase i goofed im going to destoy it and let it fix itself with my little perfect noah" opps his kids screwed up to why didnt he see it coming??? LOL LOL
id recommend reading the story of the watchers, its a nice apocryphal text that goes on about this story. actually i recommend reading the book of enoch too, books like that are quite interesting if your interesting, they're fiction of course, but so is the bible
I researched the Bible and proved it to be extremely faulty...so I can't go with you there either.
And again...if they were "perfect"...they wouldn't have made a mistake. I'm sure you'd say that going against God is a mistake...thus...they weren't perfect.
Of course, the whole thing doesn't matter because they also weren't REAL...but that's a whole other issue.
I think you're missing the point of what the Bible is saying. Where do you get two 5 foot people having 9 foot babies? where does it say cause they were tall, God killed people? It was their blatent disobedience. Don't scan the text. Read deeper.
God gave Adam and Eve a choice. And God did do something about it, He made a way out. Christ.
God is holy. He deserves perfection. Thats how he created the world.
Read the text....the "Sons of God" had sex with women and had "giants". You claim they were normal people and their offspring were just "tall"...come on. I am starting to think we aren't even reading the same book. Not to mention the fact that most Christians disagree with you. Perhaps you should try to convince all of them of your interpretation first.
If God made the world "perfect" then we wouldn't have sinned.
The word giants doesn't mean fantasy type, big as a mountain. remember Goliath was a little over 9 feet tall. (1 Sam 17) God is omnipotent. He created the world knowing Adam and Eve would sin, knowing what price would have to be paid for sin, but he did it anyway. All things were created to glorify him. What kind of praise and honor can you recieve from someone without a free will? God knows all, and he lets us make mistakes. He wants us to CHOSE Him.
you missed the point...two 5 foot people had 9 foot babies? 2 normal people had children that were vastly taller than them? Just like that. And this pissed off god somehow? The children were just tall people...and god was angry enough to KILL ALL OF HUMANITY! Seriously, this is your belief?
God KNEW Adam and Eve would sin and instead of fixing that problem, he did nothing...
And he wants us to "chose him"....at the threat of eternal torture if we don't.
"Sons of God", in translation is referring to the followers of God, descendents of Seth. And the Daughters are descendents of Cain, unbelievers. The two are marrying each other.
Also, God does not make mistakes. He's given us a free will and plenty of chances to change. If he struck down every human the moment they sinned, or controlled their thoughts, thats not free will. Read through the Bible and look at all the times God always gives a chance to repent.
this noah crap is exactly that CRAP two of every animal hmmm a little strange don't you think, How the hell are you going to create all those climates for those animals, LMAO like your going to have a rainforest, desert, swamp and snow all ON A BOAT, get real
Six days may work be done, but on the seventh is the sabbath of rest, Holy to the lord: Whoever doeth any work on the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death......in other words u work on sunday we can kill you
I just thought about this being that your comment is on here...
That would mean that Noah wouldn't have been able to tend to the animals on the Sabbath. Can you imagine the mess made in one whole day of all of those animals with no one cleaning it up...ALL DAY! And only one 18X18" window to let the smell out.
you think that there should be something called "monkey men" if evolution were true and you think I'M the idiot? You don't even understand how evolution works. Where would you get such a weird idea?
Satan stopped Eve huh...and God did nothing to stop this?
The "perfect" bloodline...since you believe that Eve and Adam were the only two people at the time...this means that EVERYONE has a "perfect bloodline"
I thought you knew the Bible...mankind was created on the sixth day; the 7th day He rested; the 8th day He created Adam and Eve...that's two thousand years of people in this age before Adam ever made the scene...come on man, I didn't think you were that much of a novice.
Sent, you do realize that your interpretation of the Bible isn't even the accepted interpretation amongst even half of the Biblical scholars. I notice you are using the "1 day=1000 years" false idea (this means plants existed 1000 years with no sun for photosynthesis. It also means that our sabbath is supposed to be 1000 years not just on Saturday/Sunday) Then you have all of mankind which WERE NOT born of Adam being blamed for his sin which contradicts the Bible too.
I don't care what you prefer, you dodged the issue by quoting Bible verses that are irrelevant to the conversation....therefore...COP OUT! I'm done with you sent...you are a waste of time. I won't be replying to anything else you post here.
1st, there are no "laws" of evolution. it's simple: Random mutations create variation amongst offspring. Natural selection then allows for the ones that are better suited to prosper and continue on their traits. So a species that uses 10% of a massive brain is better than a species that uses 5% of the same size brain or 10% of a smaller brain.
2-We use ALL of our brain. The 10% thing is a myth started by a misunderstanding of how our brains work.
that's not an opinion, that's all what science teaches us today. Just because you don't understand something correctly, that doesn't make that information "opinion" vs your "opinion" which IS an "opinion" because you are simply guessing at it.
You assume I do not understand something correctly without giving me the consideration that I have viewed both presentations regarding this issue. And I let God have the final say on the matter as he reminds us we will not come into full knowledge while in flesh. This from a man, supposedly of science, who first limits things from all possibilities and second grasps theories as solid foundation.
The brain is often seen by imaging expanding into outer regions of whatever the lobes names are, I forget, when in dream states or divine prayer states. Brian injuries and cancers also cause activity in parts that appeared to be dormant or that once showed minimal activity for all that science understands of the brain at present. The only thing you can be sure of is that there is a lot you dont know. Sorry to hear about your god figure Hawking being hospitialized.
God figure? What is this BS? Hawking is a brilliant mind. I admire his intellect. Just like all those before him. I also admire the intellect of CHRISTIANS before him...like the CATHOLIC PRIEST that put together the idea of the Big Bang. (What? You didn't know that it was the CHURCH that discovered that first?)
On the rest...again, it's clear you don't understand neurology either....don't blame you, it's VERY advanced stuff. We use 100% of our brain, but not always to it's capacity.
Pffft guess I did have that one coming. Lemaitre who developed his hypothesis, based from Einsteins general relativity theory, to achieve his idea of the primeval atom. We are super hot and ever expanding and this is how space is measured. But I believe many of the benchmarks used for this theory are falling by the wayside now as exceptions to their rules are being found.
LOL!!!! First sent, I am responding to the comment SHE made. SHE initiated the conversation and that is all that I see it to be. Second, I'm not "shaking her foundation" I'm correcting her misunderstanding of scientific knowledge. But I wouldn't expect YOU to understand that as your lack of understanding is as bad if not worse than hers.
Well, ya know, folks throw things up on YT for the world's consumption, and sometimes the world throws up after consuming it...seems to me I was in context, but the ol' boy couldn't stand it. I count that as victory! 1000 years + 1 day...perfectly in context...anyhoo...always good to see you Lizi99 of the Elect! Godspeed in your teachings. Thou art a wise and wonderful counselor!
Also where did this thing come from that produced offspring? It magically just appeared one day in a pool of goop? Then this thing just poofed into all the various life forms to create a cycle of life that is dependent upon most things being present within that cycle for life to be sustained upon this planet. I know, I know I should have paid attention in grade 6.5!
Scientists have been able to recreate in lab conditions the formation of amino acids naturally. Abiogenesis is still young and is currently exploring several possible theories to determine which is most likely to be true.
I do love that you mention things "poofing"...just like your god did...POOF, there's light. POOF, there's a planet. POOF, there are animals. POOF, a man. A woman? Poo...uh, wait I need a rib first...POOF!
But not at the success of that first test for wasn't a contaminate present in their soup brew. I remember it vaguely.
In medicine we know that we have 44 chromosomes plus 2 sex chromosomes or 23 pairs in all. Woman only has an XX set of sex chromosomes while the man has an XY set of sex chromosomes. The sex of a child is determined by the father. Now if God removed a rib/arc from Adam DNA strand and it was a Y chromosome then He could produce an XX chromosome being or a woman (poof).
A "rib" contains ALL chromosomes. What the hell is this "arc from Adam DNA strand" crap? You don't have a clue how chromosomes work, do you?
Sweetie, you are embarrassing yourself....please stop. Despite our disagreement, I do think you are a nice person. I'm feeling bad her having to expose your complete lack of scientific understanding.
I am talking about the arc in the strands of the chain. We have something like 3 billion base pairs of DNA arranged into 46chromosomes that makes up we humans. You will either be XX or XY. When God removed the Y from Adams DNA he created a XX creature.
Well hell Heathen I did not know the specific area with which you were referring. Ok, I guess you are talking about nucleotides (ATGC) that carries genetic specifics? But I am probably wrong yet again.
But I hear you loud and clear, I should stop it, so I shall.
Base pair refers to the TWO (hence pair) nucleotides together. You could say that there are only 2 base pairs as the other two are simply the first two in reverse order, but it makes a difference in the DNA how the pair will function. Therefore we list the four base pairs as AT, GC, TA, and CG.
Now for the amazing part...
Out of the 4 combinations, EVERY GENE IN YOUR BODY is formed. Change the order of just one pair and you change the organism.
sure...you COULD look at it that way...OR you could realize just how little has to change in the way of mutations to make a new species. All this talk that they make of "micro" and "macro"...it boils down to 4 base pairs in varying order. From the simplest to the most complex life. Four base pairs. Think about that.
No, random mutation is not responsible for this Heathen. It is as simple as it is complex. Mutation that was random stumbled upon these base pairs and stopped becoming random and used only these four base pairs as building blocks, come on. Father's numerical symbol for earth is 4. So it makes perfect sense.
lol...so the woman that didn't know that it was 4 base pairs has now deemed 4 as being important in relation to god and on top of that tells me that when the DNA strand has a random change in order (aka mutation) isn't A MUTATION...
As I said before, you need to stop doing that. You DON'T KNOW this stuff yet you try to pretend that you do. You are so busy trying to argue some position that you are trying to counter information that you don't understand and it only serves to make you look bad.
I was talking about the biological function of the human genome arrangement of the 46 chromosomes which has approx 3 billion base pairs of DNA You were never specific and I dont know why I let you goad me back here? This is a dead horse.
And do not judge God by we simple women folk.
Shall I bend my knee and marvel at thy mastery oh thou King of Vanity?
I simply stated that YOU don't know enough about biology to try to counter scientific claims.
That's ok...you won't find me arguing with an architect on how to build sky scrapers. Not going to happen...I fully understand that I am completely ignorant as to how to do such a thing.
Now, your turn on biology...go ahead, it doesn't hurt at all.
we've already discussed your wild assertion of "races"...
No, the salt water would NOT sit on top of the fresh water. How about you try a science experiment that I remember doing in FIFTH GRADE. Mix salt water and fresh water and see what you get. Does it separate? Or does it dilute?
Also, is there fresh water at the bottom of the deltas where the fresh water empties into the ocean?
Well all the races were created on the 6th day, or 6000 years after the katabole.
You have me on the water issue. I do not know how God worked out the water for the rain would have been fresh water. But then sharks swim into fresh water rivers in Louisanna, Missippi, and Florida. Don't make me go back to fifth grade! Plus I have not even had time to finish watching all your series. (yard work)
SOME fish will be able to swim into the deltas and then go up the rivers to some extent. Eventually they turn around or die. Take this concept back a few billion years and apply natural selection and the ones that can stay in fresh water the longest slowly become the fresh water fish of today after generations of mutations which allowed them to eventually live in the fresh water.
Well that should still be an on going process now shouldnt it...why would evolution go up too then stop? It is possible that a great majority of fish was destroyed but then would this flood affect their eggs? Even if they were scattered about there would not be the danger present for the hatchlings.
ok are you telling me that somethihng we have to "just believe in" is easier to believe in than something we can prove, also you say aliens had to be created then who made god? ... dont know? thats because you cant know because if someone created god than he was creates if so then who made him, then who made him! and so on, id rather accept that i dont know where it all came from than throw my soul into something i cant explain and can more or less totally disprove, this is directed at joopshoop
Either we came from God, Aliens or Evolution. Evolution is a doctrine made by men (scientists). If Aliens, then who made them? If God, all is explained. It is harder to believe in evolution or aliens, then it is the Bible. Historically, geneologically, scientifically, archeologically, and prophetically, not to mention his interaction with each individual through a relationship and prayer. The Bible, an integrated message system outside of time. 66 books by 40+ authors over 1,000's of yrs
Evolution came about in a study of living things. Yet if you truly study the Bible, without the rose color glasses's, word for word you might form a different opinion.
Read "Skeptics Search for God" Ralph Muncaster. He proves God. From there those who want to know the truth will read the Bible and God will reveal his secrets to them. The prince of this world (Lucifer-Fallen Angel) has blinded your eyes otherwise. You will see if you go to HELL! Hopefully, you want truth and read the bible asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins, and let him show you.
If you were God, and no creation was close to you in power or wisdom. Seeing the beginning and end of our world, not to mention his area. Were they seperate? You know all decisions of man/angels/etc. Each road they may take, how would you communicate this to mear men? You would do it in a way that makes sense to the angels, in that they were limited (created beings). Man was/is more limited to God being creator and real. Read book of Enoch Ethiopic text . God is right! We are not!
Sons of God was before Christ was mentioned as being the Son of God. Just as an eye for an eye was mentioned before love your enemies and pray for them. Therefore, there seems to be periods of biblical history that dealt with man differently then he did in the latter days. The Myths of old may of been these hybrid human angel offspring. Who were trying to corrupt the line of David. There are fossils. However, there is a coverup as well.
Hi, the fossils I am refering to is the evolutionary fossil record, not the Giants, there are fossils of giants, and their has been a coverup about this, there are not enough evolution fossils, and their are no missing link fossils. Either we came from God, the one the bible speaks of or we come from aliens (non-biblical fallen angels), or we came from Evolution?
Read Jude, about the Angels that went after strange flesh, spoken of by the prophet Enoch, which was translated/walked with God. Or study about the Israelites lead by Moses, when they sent out spies and they saw Giants and they were very afraid. This is about the geneology of the Messiah. Noahs was not corrupted by Fallen Angels creating these hybrid beings. Therefore, God saved his family that was not corrupted or defiled by these angels through sex. Read the BIBLE!!! DUH!!!
The Bible is fake though. It's as fake as Humpty Dumpty, Little Red Riding Hood and The Three Little Pigs. It's just a fairy tale. It has a story, protagonists, antagonists, and a nice little moral at the end that is supposed to help live your life better. That is my view on the Bible.
i just noticed that the "sons" coming down is a bit of proof that the god being talked about in the old testament and the new testament are 2 completely different gods. probably obvious, but im bored.
Just wondering. What church/churches did you belong to? I can't believe you didn't learn the basics; Bible 101. I probably would have quit that church, too. Just because some church/churches teach something, doesn't mean it's from the Bible. Churches can be deceived.
The "sons of God" r just the "true believers",and the "daughters of men" r just the"non-believers".And yes,God's people weren't suppose 2 marry"non-believers".It sometimes corrupts them,and causes them 2 get into all kinds of paganism and idol worship.
When 2 people marry,that r from different groups(races etc),their children r usually taller.Hence,"giants".They were giants as compared 2 the"believers".
Noah lived a long time.He easily(with God's plans),could build a boat that wouldn't leak.
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you word are empty as your soul is,cast out your darkness and come from the light of the good,when someone want to speak the truth he should not speak in darkness but in the light,may the holy god have mercy on you,so should it be.
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You sound ignorant. You cannot even explain clearly. Your mind is chaotic. You are desperate for an audience because what you say is incoherent. Did you drop out from school?
Haha! Wow they really think he dropped out from school? The fact that he's saying this means that he probably had a good education, along with some common sense that many seem to lack these days...
"We've witnessed languages adding words year after year"
The language already existed. In ancient languages like Hebrew, Greek, Assyrian, etc, words typically had more meanings than in modern languages. Languages are becoming more specific by adding words. Going backwards, this results in the language of Adam.
3. That every literate language (and practically every illiterate one) can be proven to be descended from one and the same parent language.
4. That every parent language is superior in every way to each and every one of its descendent languages.
These facts shatter the religion of Darwinian evolution; nevertheless, people have a right to worship tree stumps if they persist in being so inclined.
Nephilim...there's so many errors in that that I don't even know where to start...and based on our previous discussions, I don't see a point in even bothering with you. I will say this. We've witnessed languages adding words year after year and in such are "more complex", but in the end, these additions are made to "simplify" our communications so that a single word takes the place of a lengthy explanation.
1. That no group of people, once they lose the memory of their writing system, has ever been able to regain it again without outside help.
2. That no group of people, once they lose the memory of their spoken language, has ever been able to regain it again without outside help. That is, if you were to isolate newborn persons and never speak to them, they would never of themselves create anything like a spoken language.
Scholars will tell you that older languages are more primitive than newer ones, since this is what the religion called Darwin's Theory of Evolution requires. Exactly the opposite is true.
What you have described is the observation that people who have similar language have diverged since migrating to a particular area of the earth after Babylon. Chinese and japanese is a perfect example: the divergance of the original oriental tongue and people.
ok...so very religious people ON EARTH had sex with women (weren't they SUPPOSED to do that?) and gave birth to GIANTS. As you try to remove the fantasism from the story, you lose the point and even end up making it more difficult to believe.
ahh...I think I found the problem...you think that I'm "promoting" the Genesis flood...I'm an atheist. I don't believe one split second of it. As for Zeitgeist...it's decent, but not 100% accurate. It's 9/11 claims are highly disproven. And some of it's religion claims are a bit presumptive (though possible)
Which informations are a "bit presumtive" on the zeitgeistmovie?
I think that your problem on the reliios part is, that you are trying to defend yourself, but I think that there is no need to do that and others can see it from a different angle. I don't see THAT as a problem.
I turn that question to you...which parts where presented with FACTS and which with just conjecture? Remember, I'm fully convinced the Christian religion is VERY full of it...but let's not just attach coinsidences together and call it fact.
For me is the bible like a big book full of fairy tails. And that is not meant in a negative way. You are supposed to learn out of fairy tails but not to take them too serious too on the other hand. But of course, you don't need the Bible to come along in life, but I think that it is still a very interesting book and for my part, I think fighting about it or making wars is totally senseless.
Anyway, you copped out already. I tried to help you but you deny any evidence provided to you because you refuse to investigate things on your own. You should wake up one day. You will realize just how wrong you are about evolution. I hope for your sake you do. Take care. I won't bug you anymore. Good luck.
You told me you would not read them and came back with a few questions, so you just copped out. Evolution is a falicy designed to make you not believe in God. It works for some. If I say, "The box is black." and the box is the most important subject on earth, do you believe me without investigating for yourself all sides, or jsut swallow what I say? if not, why do you do it for evolution theory?
Yea, but you are so brainwashed and in denial of scientific evidence for order and complexity being impossible to arise on it's own, that it's just fun. Such as your telling me that you would not read several responses I sent. Trypical. "Oh look! It's evidence of creation!" *delete* Sheesh.
you sent me SIX FULL messages...I read and responded to ONE and tried to FOCUS on the points of that one to see if we could come to any agreement on those BEFORE moving on to the next one...then you send me FOUR MORE to my 1...What I was trying to get you to understand was to CONSOLIDATE your thoughts a little and STAY ON TOPIC. You lack simple conversation skills...and I assure you...you didn't have EVIDENCE of anything.
Isn't it funny how all human languages are related and have so many similarities? Well, since all people were of one culture once in Babylon, and God split their languages, I guess there's no mystery there either.
LMAO!!!! OK, two parter here...since everyone else wasn't allowed to see our PM correspondence...didn't you say something about not responding to me any more and even "blocking" me?
2nd, languages are all related because once man gained the ability to speak, his vocabulary was still small. As we spread out and continued to evolve, people in one part of the world added new words, dropped a few and gain certain accents...THE SAME WAY people in England speak a different version of English than Americans despite the majority of us having COME FROM England in our ancestry. Spanish in Mexico is different than Spanish in Spain, Cuba, or Puerto Rico.
Not all human languages are related hence we have groups such as Indo-European, Sinitic, Altaic, Uralic, Afro-Semetic etc to group languages that have no relation to one another.
1) People are moving around and the languages are getting mixed up (see for ex. Afrikaans, who has piked up words from Indonesian languages, Xhosa, Khoikhoi and other languages. And why? Because it is surrounded by those languages and the Dutch people who moved to Africa where simply piking up words from other languages.
2) I once wanted to learn Zulu and I couldn't find so many relations and after a time I quit it, because it was so totally different, because it is spoken in a totally different part of the world, where MY natural language developed. Languages are usually more related to each other, when they developed close to each other.
Can you offer a better explaination as to why there is untold amounts of methan in solid form on the ocean floor around all of the continental shelves? or are you just trying to avoid the obvious? Think about it, and think about how sternly you deny something when scientific evidence is profound. Is this not what all evos do in the face of the lack of evidence for evolution and the perponderance of creation evidence?
Methane is produced by bacteria eating bio matter. That is why it exists in great quantities in coal mines deep in the earth. So there was a trmendous amount of plant matter deposited along the continental shelves. This is irefutable. how did the trillions of plants get deposited around the continental shelves? What mov4ed it there? Answer: LOTS OF WATER.
seriously...go read a book by SECULAR scientists...ones WITHOUT AN AGENDA TO SELL! We're done discussing this, you aren't going to convince me and obviously you are too far gone to help. WE ARE DONE.
The USGS is full of real scientists. Thousands of creationists are real scientists. The USGS shows you that the solid methane is there, all around all of the continental plates. It is methan that vame from somewhere other than inside the earth, because it is captured in ice on the ocean floor. Do you have some other explaination as to where it came from that could enlighten the world?
I suppose there is some other explainationf for such a trmendous amount of methane to be on the ocean floor but not coming out of the earth just along all of the continental shelves? This methane is SOLID. It is not a gas. It is trapped in ice. If it were from inside the earth, it would be gas. But it's not. It's SOLID!
god kills all the humans becuase there was violence
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infernalone666 1 month ago
That skeptics annotated bible sounds interesting. I didn't know that about the largest wooden ships ever built.
zacthebold 2 months ago
The story of the great flood is an ancient ancestral story/memory that is in the earliest writing of man all over the entire world (even in the native american stories of the new world)
I think this dates back to the actual flood that the earth experienced as the last ice age ended (circa 12,000 yrs ago). I also think that mankind has progressed into golden ages and regressed b4 Babylon. Civilazation could be over 5,000 yrs older than we know... ie. atlantis ect
bombnom 6 months ago
@bombnom No, Atlantis was rediscovered in marshland in Spain. It was from a later period.
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
@InternetDarkLord you say it w such authority ..it must be true. >>>???? their are hundreds of sites that people say are for sure Atlantis. Plato's original description said that it "sank into the sea' almost 12,000 years ago.(9600bc) I'm pretty sure that plato wasn't an idiot and he realized what he was saying. It could be a myth or a parable but I was just musing on the what if's
bombnom 5 months ago
@bombnom The legend need not be 100% correct. After all, do you think Poseidon is real too?
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
@InternetDarkLord of course, I also believe in Bael, Yahweh, Shiva, Thor & Hercules. ... jkg
bombnom 5 months ago
@bombnom I believe in the Feathered Serpent God myself.
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
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Fun fact: Genesis says that the animal pairs were male and female, but some kinds of animals don't have 2 genders.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
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InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
Giants are impossible, because the mass of an object scales up in cubes, length times height, times width, but the supporting legs in squares, width times length. That is why large sauropods had 4 massive legs.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
KingHeathen: do you not research contextual meanings? Sons of God refer to human beings in this passage.
sbullerbuller12 1 year ago
@sbullerbuller12 So your god had a problem with HUMANS having sex with HUMAN women and somehow this created GIANTS?!?!?!
Do you not research blatantly obvious contradictions with your interpretations?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
Thanks for replying back... I think you make some really great points and that overall you're a smart person.
I really wish I could subscribe to you but all all my friends and family are Christians and only about 4 people know I'm an atheist. Sometimes I wish everyone would know and still treat me the same so I could favorite and like evolution videos and things like that :/.
ChuriAMVids 1 year ago
Dude I love your intellectual sarcasm but be aware that christianity is all about FAITH. Intelligence is evil/blasphemy. Ignorance is genius.
kick08ful 1 year ago
Try fitting 2 of every American in that ark, wouldn't be enough Micky Ds to sustain human life let alone two(really seven in chapter 7, nice) of every animals. Wait about whales?
HybridD91 1 year ago
Man also cannot recreate the pyramids but it doesn't mean they don't exist.
mickey42743 1 year ago
@mickey42743 Actually man CAN recreate the pyramids and in fact it was man that MADE the pyramids....what exactly are you talking about?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
Your replys are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!
I tried talking to a friend about how God said "Man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil" And he just shaked it off saying it was "LIKE" god... as in just knowing the difference between good and evil" And i said well whats the problem in that? The conversation went on... And well... I Kind of lost :p
What would you have said?
ChuriAMVids 1 year ago
@ChuriAMVids I don't know how the rest of the conversation went...but I agree with you...What IS the problem with knowing the difference between good and evil? I find that to be a "good" thing and had they HAD that knowledge, perhaps they would have obeyed their god! However, another thing I like to throw out there for those that think Adam and Eve ate the fruit and that is how we know "right from wrong"...then explain psychopaths?! Also, did my dog eat the fruit? They've learned to obey!
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@mickey42743 I dont care if you said this 2 months ago. WHAT THE FUCK! Of course we can.
ameldia 1 year ago
I just stumbled upon your videos. Looks like we're tackling the same topics...with only a 3 year difference. Nice stuff.
StephanieVonAwesome 1 year ago
why do angels need male reproductive ograns or even the human desire for sex? is heaven populated like earth? as far as i was told there are no female angels and so no angel babies.... it does makes sense.
B4mytyme 2 years ago
Angels are sexless. Heaven will be like earth because it will be on earth after God returns the earth to its condition in the first age where it was a paradise.
jimu57 1 year ago
the church teaches that there are no female angels and the bible always mentions them in the masculine. Angels in the bible have masculine names. but my point is if angels are sexless why would they desire to sleep with humanly women? it sounds like a mythical tale to me.
B4mytyme 1 year ago
Which church? THE church as in Catholic? The fallen angels came to earth in flesh to seduce women and to produce corrupt offspring. That is one reason God brought on the flood.
jimu57 1 year ago
Jim, you danced around and then fell all over B4's point. If the angel was "sexless" then why would it want to seduce WOMEN and how would it "produce [ANY] offspring?"
KingHeathen 1 year ago
Sorry. I am recovering from a stroke and sometimes have a hard time with communications. The reason is that same reason that Satan impreganted Eve to give birth to Cain. Abel is Adams son. Cain isnt. Fallen angels could take human form and do what human men could do. They did this so they could seduce and create offspring. The offspring were giants. Literally. Goliath most likely came from that. They did this mainly to try and corrupt the bloodline to Christ. Didnt work.
jimu57 1 year ago
SATAN impregnated Eve....I see...
And your proof of this piece of theology that I've found NOWHERE else?
Oh, and Goliath came from that? Didn't God flood the ENTIRE EARTH to kill off all these offspring? Goliath came much later in the story.
Jim, sorry to hear about your medical difficulties, but your theology simply isn't supported by your scripture.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
What Jim says here is a notion held by one Arnold Murray from the Shepherd's Chapel out of Arkansas. He has a TV broadcast where he sits at a desk and proceeds to badly interpret the Bible for an hour every morning.
And, you are right, it is not supported by biblical scripture. Murray's a total quack.
(Sorry, Jim, but it's true.)
IshMelamaid 1 year ago
@IshMelamaid Well, at least we found something that we can agree on, huh?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@B4mytyme Not to mention Revelations say the 144,000 who goes to heaven are virgins that haven't lain with women. The Bible doesn't expect women to lay with women so it's safe to say 144,000 men will go to heaven. Of course Revelation is symbolic, well except for the Lake of Fire, that isn't. Theist logic. Symbolic or not, it sounds like a sauage fest in heaven.
HybridD91 1 year ago
Did the sea creatures die from the flood as well?
gothicfog 2 years ago
@gothicfog Yes most would have died because of the changes in the aquatic environment ... it would have been (if correct) almost as devastating as the effects on land animals
Edwarddoom 2 years ago
@Edwarddoom Well i guess it makes sense considering the mixture of salt water + fresh water. And the change in atmospheric temperature and pressure WOULD be pretty catastrophic.
gothicfog 2 years ago
OMG!!!! HE made a mistake mr infallible lies about the one son and pissed cus hes goofed and people say that hes perfect and BUYBULL says "I GOD made crap opps i f****up and now becuase i goofed im going to destoy it and let it fix itself with my little perfect noah" opps his kids screwed up to why didnt he see it coming??? LOL LOL
Eros548 2 years ago
Sentforth5 and lizi are fucking idiots.
coolbeens21 2 years ago
id recommend reading the story of the watchers, its a nice apocryphal text that goes on about this story. actually i recommend reading the book of enoch too, books like that are quite interesting if your interesting, they're fiction of course, but so is the bible
Rib64 2 years ago
interested*
Rib64 2 years ago
i agree. Reading the bible doesn't prove it.
its research that proves it.
Adam and Eve were created perfect. So were the angels and look at what happened to Lucifer/Satan.
But I know it won't matter what I say, nothing will change your mind on what you believe about the Bible. So really this is between you and God.
hobbitbunny 2 years ago
I researched the Bible and proved it to be extremely faulty...so I can't go with you there either.
And again...if they were "perfect"...they wouldn't have made a mistake. I'm sure you'd say that going against God is a mistake...thus...they weren't perfect.
Of course, the whole thing doesn't matter because they also weren't REAL...but that's a whole other issue.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
In the beginning the earth was perfect. Read Romans 5:12.
Again, we go back to free will. Adam and Eve chose to eat from the Forbidden tree.
I don't fully understand either, why God, knowing Adam and Eve would sin, would continue to create the world and everything in it.
Its mind boggling. Try looking up the lyrics to "Mystery" by Selah. I hope this helps explain some more.
hobbitbunny 2 years ago
Reading the Bible won't prove the Bible.
If Adam and Eve were PERFECT they would not have chosen to sin. Isn't that your argument for why God won't sin?
And no, you haven't explained anything satisfactorily.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I think you're missing the point of what the Bible is saying. Where do you get two 5 foot people having 9 foot babies? where does it say cause they were tall, God killed people? It was their blatent disobedience. Don't scan the text. Read deeper.
God gave Adam and Eve a choice. And God did do something about it, He made a way out. Christ.
God is holy. He deserves perfection. Thats how he created the world.
hobbitbunny 2 years ago
Read the text....the "Sons of God" had sex with women and had "giants". You claim they were normal people and their offspring were just "tall"...come on. I am starting to think we aren't even reading the same book. Not to mention the fact that most Christians disagree with you. Perhaps you should try to convince all of them of your interpretation first.
If God made the world "perfect" then we wouldn't have sinned.
Sorry, but your logic fails here as I see it.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
If god deserves perfection why have a heaven? why isn't there just a "perfect" earth?
DTbikerider9 2 years ago
The word giants doesn't mean fantasy type, big as a mountain. remember Goliath was a little over 9 feet tall. (1 Sam 17) God is omnipotent. He created the world knowing Adam and Eve would sin, knowing what price would have to be paid for sin, but he did it anyway. All things were created to glorify him. What kind of praise and honor can you recieve from someone without a free will? God knows all, and he lets us make mistakes. He wants us to CHOSE Him.
hobbitbunny 2 years ago
you missed the point...two 5 foot people had 9 foot babies? 2 normal people had children that were vastly taller than them? Just like that. And this pissed off god somehow? The children were just tall people...and god was angry enough to KILL ALL OF HUMANITY! Seriously, this is your belief?
God KNEW Adam and Eve would sin and instead of fixing that problem, he did nothing...
And he wants us to "chose him"....at the threat of eternal torture if we don't.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
"Sons of God", in translation is referring to the followers of God, descendents of Seth. And the Daughters are descendents of Cain, unbelievers. The two are marrying each other.
Also, God does not make mistakes. He's given us a free will and plenty of chances to change. If he struck down every human the moment they sinned, or controlled their thoughts, thats not free will. Read through the Bible and look at all the times God always gives a chance to repent.
hobbitbunny 2 years ago
so regular mortal men that descended from Seth had sex with regular mortal women that descended from Seth's older brother...
and this produced GIANTS?
BTW, if God is omnipotent, then he already knows what we will do with every chance that we ever get and therefore it's pointless to do so.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
this noah crap is exactly that CRAP two of every animal hmmm a little strange don't you think, How the hell are you going to create all those climates for those animals, LMAO like your going to have a rainforest, desert, swamp and snow all ON A BOAT, get real
tjeterss 2 years ago
Exodus 31:15
Six days may work be done, but on the seventh is the sabbath of rest, Holy to the lord: Whoever doeth any work on the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death......in other words u work on sunday we can kill you
tjeterss 2 years ago
I just thought about this being that your comment is on here...
That would mean that Noah wouldn't have been able to tend to the animals on the Sabbath. Can you imagine the mess made in one whole day of all of those animals with no one cleaning it up...ALL DAY! And only one 18X18" window to let the smell out.
THAT would kill you.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Lizi..you're not the moron, that heathen guy is the moron.
I love YouTube...it entertains me to no end!
sentforth5 2 years ago
removing comments that hurt your eyes, eh, heathen!
I WIN
sentforth5 2 years ago
click view all comments....I don't delete anything accept spam.
Lying, sentforth5? I WIN!
Idiot.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
hahaha oh hon, I know - I know - ROFL
Lizi99 2 years ago
if evolution was real here would be a bunch of little monkey men running around today. Idiot.
satan had his buddy angels come to earth to stop Eve's daughters from producing the perfect Messiah.
Dude, you are good for a chuckle, anyhow.
sentforth5 2 years ago
you think that there should be something called "monkey men" if evolution were true and you think I'M the idiot? You don't even understand how evolution works. Where would you get such a weird idea?
Satan stopped Eve huh...and God did nothing to stop this?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
satan failed. satan is a failure.
sentforth5 2 years ago
So did Eve have this perfect Messiah then?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Eve is the mother of all living.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Eve to Mary...a perfect bloodline, but you already know all this stuff.
It is entertaining, but fruitless.
sentforth5 2 years ago
The "perfect" bloodline...since you believe that Eve and Adam were the only two people at the time...this means that EVERYONE has a "perfect bloodline"
Don't you see how silly this is?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I thought you knew the Bible...mankind was created on the sixth day; the 7th day He rested; the 8th day He created Adam and Eve...that's two thousand years of people in this age before Adam ever made the scene...come on man, I didn't think you were that much of a novice.
sentforth5 2 years ago
Sent, you do realize that your interpretation of the Bible isn't even the accepted interpretation amongst even half of the Biblical scholars. I notice you are using the "1 day=1000 years" false idea (this means plants existed 1000 years with no sun for photosynthesis. It also means that our sabbath is supposed to be 1000 years not just on Saturday/Sunday) Then you have all of mankind which WERE NOT born of Adam being blamed for his sin which contradicts the Bible too.
Novice? Back at you.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Well, lessee here...should I believe "man", or God...
2Peter ch3v8:
"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one dayis with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
And I have no interpretations...
2Peter ch 1 v 20:
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
Beats me what the "scholars" interpret...I do a little thing called study.
Christ BECAME our sabbath on the cross. There is no sabbath "day" any more.
sentforth5 2 years ago
Novice.
sentforth5 2 years ago
lol...cop out.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
God's words are a cop out? That's a good one. As a professed Christian, you should know I prefer God's words over man's words every time,
I'm not interested in opinion.
sentforth5 2 years ago
I don't care what you prefer, you dodged the issue by quoting Bible verses that are irrelevant to the conversation....therefore...COP OUT! I'm done with you sent...you are a waste of time. I won't be replying to anything else you post here.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Yay! I win!!
sentforth5 2 years ago
Why did evolution make a man creature whereby he only use 10% of his brian? Does not this go against the basic law of evolution?
Lizi99 2 years ago
No Lizi...
1st, there are no "laws" of evolution. it's simple: Random mutations create variation amongst offspring. Natural selection then allows for the ones that are better suited to prosper and continue on their traits. So a species that uses 10% of a massive brain is better than a species that uses 5% of the same size brain or 10% of a smaller brain.
2-We use ALL of our brain. The 10% thing is a myth started by a misunderstanding of how our brains work.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
In your honest opinon.
Lizi99 2 years ago
that's not an opinion, that's all what science teaches us today. Just because you don't understand something correctly, that doesn't make that information "opinion" vs your "opinion" which IS an "opinion" because you are simply guessing at it.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
You assume I do not understand something correctly without giving me the consideration that I have viewed both presentations regarding this issue. And I let God have the final say on the matter as he reminds us we will not come into full knowledge while in flesh. This from a man, supposedly of science, who first limits things from all possibilities and second grasps theories as solid foundation.
Lizi99 2 years ago
I don't assume anything....you have clearly demonstrated that you don't know this stuff by your false statements about it.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
The brain is often seen by imaging expanding into outer regions of whatever the lobes names are, I forget, when in dream states or divine prayer states. Brian injuries and cancers also cause activity in parts that appeared to be dormant or that once showed minimal activity for all that science understands of the brain at present. The only thing you can be sure of is that there is a lot you dont know. Sorry to hear about your god figure Hawking being hospitialized.
Lizi99 2 years ago
God figure? What is this BS? Hawking is a brilliant mind. I admire his intellect. Just like all those before him. I also admire the intellect of CHRISTIANS before him...like the CATHOLIC PRIEST that put together the idea of the Big Bang. (What? You didn't know that it was the CHURCH that discovered that first?)
On the rest...again, it's clear you don't understand neurology either....don't blame you, it's VERY advanced stuff. We use 100% of our brain, but not always to it's capacity.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Pffft guess I did have that one coming. Lemaitre who developed his hypothesis, based from Einsteins general relativity theory, to achieve his idea of the primeval atom. We are super hot and ever expanding and this is how space is measured. But I believe many of the benchmarks used for this theory are falling by the wayside now as exceptions to their rules are being found.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi99 is a super-genius...you are beating the air trying to shake her foundation. It is unshakable in my estimation...
sentforth5 2 years ago
LOL!!!! First sent, I am responding to the comment SHE made. SHE initiated the conversation and that is all that I see it to be. Second, I'm not "shaking her foundation" I'm correcting her misunderstanding of scientific knowledge. But I wouldn't expect YOU to understand that as your lack of understanding is as bad if not worse than hers.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
You cannot correct Lizi99 of the Elect, because she is not wrong.
But, like I sez...yer good for a chuckle, anyhow.
sentforth5 2 years ago
Hugz SF5 ;) always a pleasure to see you.
Lizi99 2 years ago
how's science class going?
sentforth5 2 years ago
yawn...tis boring to me and I will be berated as ignorant and lorded over because it is not a knowledge I wish to emerge myself in.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Well, ya know, folks throw things up on YT for the world's consumption, and sometimes the world throws up after consuming it...seems to me I was in context, but the ol' boy couldn't stand it. I count that as victory! 1000 years + 1 day...perfectly in context...anyhoo...always good to see you Lizi99 of the Elect! Godspeed in your teachings. Thou art a wise and wonderful counselor!
sentforth5 2 years ago
Also where did this thing come from that produced offspring? It magically just appeared one day in a pool of goop? Then this thing just poofed into all the various life forms to create a cycle of life that is dependent upon most things being present within that cycle for life to be sustained upon this planet. I know, I know I should have paid attention in grade 6.5!
Lizi99 2 years ago
Scientists have been able to recreate in lab conditions the formation of amino acids naturally. Abiogenesis is still young and is currently exploring several possible theories to determine which is most likely to be true.
I do love that you mention things "poofing"...just like your god did...POOF, there's light. POOF, there's a planet. POOF, there are animals. POOF, a man. A woman? Poo...uh, wait I need a rib first...POOF!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
But not at the success of that first test for wasn't a contaminate present in their soup brew. I remember it vaguely.
In medicine we know that we have 44 chromosomes plus 2 sex chromosomes or 23 pairs in all. Woman only has an XX set of sex chromosomes while the man has an XY set of sex chromosomes. The sex of a child is determined by the father. Now if God removed a rib/arc from Adam DNA strand and it was a Y chromosome then He could produce an XX chromosome being or a woman (poof).
Lizi99 2 years ago
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A "rib" contains ALL chromosomes. What the hell is this "arc from Adam DNA strand" crap? You don't have a clue how chromosomes work, do you?
Sweetie, you are embarrassing yourself....please stop. Despite our disagreement, I do think you are a nice person. I'm feeling bad her having to expose your complete lack of scientific understanding.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I am talking about the arc in the strands of the chain. We have something like 3 billion base pairs of DNA arranged into 46chromosomes that makes up we humans. You will either be XX or XY. When God removed the Y from Adams DNA he created a XX creature.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi....we have FOUR base pairs. Not 3 billion, not 3 thousand, not 300...FOUR. Again, you don't have a clue how this stuff works. Just stop it.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Well hell Heathen I did not know the specific area with which you were referring. Ok, I guess you are talking about nucleotides (ATGC) that carries genetic specifics? But I am probably wrong yet again.
But I hear you loud and clear, I should stop it, so I shall.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Base pair refers to the TWO (hence pair) nucleotides together. You could say that there are only 2 base pairs as the other two are simply the first two in reverse order, but it makes a difference in the DNA how the pair will function. Therefore we list the four base pairs as AT, GC, TA, and CG.
Now for the amazing part...
Out of the 4 combinations, EVERY GENE IN YOUR BODY is formed. Change the order of just one pair and you change the organism.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
God is amazing in his simplicity!!!!
Lizi99 2 years ago
He is that! BTW, I fished another comment out of you, didn't I? Moron.
sentforth5 2 years ago
sure...you COULD look at it that way...OR you could realize just how little has to change in the way of mutations to make a new species. All this talk that they make of "micro" and "macro"...it boils down to 4 base pairs in varying order. From the simplest to the most complex life. Four base pairs. Think about that.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
No, random mutation is not responsible for this Heathen. It is as simple as it is complex. Mutation that was random stumbled upon these base pairs and stopped becoming random and used only these four base pairs as building blocks, come on. Father's numerical symbol for earth is 4. So it makes perfect sense.
Lizi99 2 years ago
lol...so the woman that didn't know that it was 4 base pairs has now deemed 4 as being important in relation to god and on top of that tells me that when the DNA strand has a random change in order (aka mutation) isn't A MUTATION...
As I said before, you need to stop doing that. You DON'T KNOW this stuff yet you try to pretend that you do. You are so busy trying to argue some position that you are trying to counter information that you don't understand and it only serves to make you look bad.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I was talking about the biological function of the human genome arrangement of the 46 chromosomes which has approx 3 billion base pairs of DNA You were never specific and I dont know why I let you goad me back here? This is a dead horse.
And do not judge God by we simple women folk.
Shall I bend my knee and marvel at thy mastery oh thou King of Vanity?
Lizi99 2 years ago
I've never claimed women to be "simple"...
I simply stated that YOU don't know enough about biology to try to counter scientific claims.
That's ok...you won't find me arguing with an architect on how to build sky scrapers. Not going to happen...I fully understand that I am completely ignorant as to how to do such a thing.
Now, your turn on biology...go ahead, it doesn't hurt at all.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Gen 7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.
All flesh from all races, a male and female.
Would not the salt water sit ontop of the fresh water? I have to check into that as I have been lax lately in my research. I love science :)
God loves you.
Lizi99 2 years ago
we've already discussed your wild assertion of "races"...
No, the salt water would NOT sit on top of the fresh water. How about you try a science experiment that I remember doing in FIFTH GRADE. Mix salt water and fresh water and see what you get. Does it separate? Or does it dilute?
Also, is there fresh water at the bottom of the deltas where the fresh water empties into the ocean?
Barney loves you.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Well all the races were created on the 6th day, or 6000 years after the katabole.
You have me on the water issue. I do not know how God worked out the water for the rain would have been fresh water. But then sharks swim into fresh water rivers in Louisanna, Missippi, and Florida. Don't make me go back to fifth grade! Plus I have not even had time to finish watching all your series. (yard work)
Lizi99 2 years ago
SOME fish will be able to swim into the deltas and then go up the rivers to some extent. Eventually they turn around or die. Take this concept back a few billion years and apply natural selection and the ones that can stay in fresh water the longest slowly become the fresh water fish of today after generations of mutations which allowed them to eventually live in the fresh water.
(learned that in 6th grade)
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Well that should still be an on going process now shouldnt it...why would evolution go up too then stop? It is possible that a great majority of fish was destroyed but then would this flood affect their eggs? Even if they were scattered about there would not be the danger present for the hatchlings.
I watched Walter Kessler in the 6th grade.
Lizi99 2 years ago
evolution hasn't stopped, it IS still an ongoing process...we discover new species every year.
Lizi...you really should return to middle school. This stuff IS covered.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
king you asked them for fosils of giant e you shouldent have said that now all the creationists wil try to say dinosaurs were in the bible lol
XxTeamNearxX 2 years ago
ok are you telling me that somethihng we have to "just believe in" is easier to believe in than something we can prove, also you say aliens had to be created then who made god? ... dont know? thats because you cant know because if someone created god than he was creates if so then who made him, then who made him! and so on, id rather accept that i dont know where it all came from than throw my soul into something i cant explain and can more or less totally disprove, this is directed at joopshoop
XxTeamNearxX 2 years ago
Either we came from God, Aliens or Evolution. Evolution is a doctrine made by men (scientists). If Aliens, then who made them? If God, all is explained. It is harder to believe in evolution or aliens, then it is the Bible. Historically, geneologically, scientifically, archeologically, and prophetically, not to mention his interaction with each individual through a relationship and prayer. The Bible, an integrated message system outside of time. 66 books by 40+ authors over 1,000's of yrs
JoopShoop2 2 years ago
Evolution came about in a study of living things. Yet if you truly study the Bible, without the rose color glasses's, word for word you might form a different opinion.
rackerslacker 2 years ago 2
Yes, Joop, "Goddidit" is much easier to understand...that doesn't make it correct:
How do plants grow?
A process called photosynthesis coverts sunlight into energy using chlorophyll...
How do plants grow?
God did it.
Get the idea?
Now, THE BIBLE is a doctrine made by men. If GOD, then who made him?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Read "Skeptics Search for God" Ralph Muncaster. He proves God. From there those who want to know the truth will read the Bible and God will reveal his secrets to them. The prince of this world (Lucifer-Fallen Angel) has blinded your eyes otherwise. You will see if you go to HELL! Hopefully, you want truth and read the bible asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins, and let him show you.
JoopShoop2 2 years ago
If you were God, and no creation was close to you in power or wisdom. Seeing the beginning and end of our world, not to mention his area. Were they seperate? You know all decisions of man/angels/etc. Each road they may take, how would you communicate this to mear men? You would do it in a way that makes sense to the angels, in that they were limited (created beings). Man was/is more limited to God being creator and real. Read book of Enoch Ethiopic text . God is right! We are not!
JoopShoop2 2 years ago
Sons of God was before Christ was mentioned as being the Son of God. Just as an eye for an eye was mentioned before love your enemies and pray for them. Therefore, there seems to be periods of biblical history that dealt with man differently then he did in the latter days. The Myths of old may of been these hybrid human angel offspring. Who were trying to corrupt the line of David. There are fossils. However, there is a coverup as well.
JoopShoop2 2 years ago
There are fossils. However, there is a coverup as well. Where do you get this info?
rackerslacker 2 years ago 2
Hi, the fossils I am refering to is the evolutionary fossil record, not the Giants, there are fossils of giants, and their has been a coverup about this, there are not enough evolution fossils, and their are no missing link fossils. Either we came from God, the one the bible speaks of or we come from aliens (non-biblical fallen angels), or we came from Evolution?
JoopShoop2 2 years ago
Where does this "coverup" info come from? Book, website, or news paper?
rackerslacker 2 years ago 2
Read Jude, about the Angels that went after strange flesh, spoken of by the prophet Enoch, which was translated/walked with God. Or study about the Israelites lead by Moses, when they sent out spies and they saw Giants and they were very afraid. This is about the geneology of the Messiah. Noahs was not corrupted by Fallen Angels creating these hybrid beings. Therefore, God saved his family that was not corrupted or defiled by these angels through sex. Read the BIBLE!!! DUH!!!
JoopShoop2 2 years ago
The Bible is fake though. It's as fake as Humpty Dumpty, Little Red Riding Hood and The Three Little Pigs. It's just a fairy tale. It has a story, protagonists, antagonists, and a nice little moral at the end that is supposed to help live your life better. That is my view on the Bible.
rikusoraleon 2 years ago
i just noticed that the "sons" coming down is a bit of proof that the god being talked about in the old testament and the new testament are 2 completely different gods. probably obvious, but im bored.
xynth101088 3 years ago
How do you know the size (length) of a "cubit"?
A11Canadian 3 years ago
are you serious? Is this the same person that suggests that I didn't learn the "basics?"
A cubit is the length of your arm from fingertip to elbow...about 18 inches.
It even says so in the glossary of my Bible.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
People were shorter back then... so I would think 18" is a bit high. But, how are you going to fit 2 of every animal on that thing?
Onodera1980 2 years ago
Just wondering. What church/churches did you belong to? I can't believe you didn't learn the basics; Bible 101. I probably would have quit that church, too. Just because some church/churches teach something, doesn't mean it's from the Bible. Churches can be deceived.
Peace!
A11Canadian 3 years ago
The "sons of God" r just the "true believers",and the "daughters of men" r just the"non-believers".And yes,God's people weren't suppose 2 marry"non-believers".It sometimes corrupts them,and causes them 2 get into all kinds of paganism and idol worship.
When 2 people marry,that r from different groups(races etc),their children r usually taller.Hence,"giants".They were giants as compared 2 the"believers".
Noah lived a long time.He easily(with God's plans),could build a boat that wouldn't leak.
A11Canadian 3 years ago
riiiiight....and what do you have to back these claims up?
KingHeathen 3 years ago
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you word are empty as your soul is,cast out your darkness and come from the light of the good,when someone want to speak the truth he should not speak in darkness but in the light,may the holy god have mercy on you,so should it be.
4Love10 3 years ago
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You sound ignorant. You cannot even explain clearly. Your mind is chaotic. You are desperate for an audience because what you say is incoherent. Did you drop out from school?
loloyungti 3 years ago
And yet you don't refute a single thing I say. Go figure.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
Haha! Wow they really think he dropped out from school? The fact that he's saying this means that he probably had a good education, along with some common sense that many seem to lack these days...
thugugbob 3 years ago
Warning! You better be careful with your Bible study. God might reveal Himself to you. And then you'll be a saved heathen.
00bsweet00 3 years ago
lol...dream on. I've already read this thing cover to cover 3 times. That's what made me an atheist to begin with!
KingHeathen 3 years ago
what about the fish??
anton19861986 3 years ago 2
uhm, cant make this video to work, sorry for my english, i am norwegian :-)
hanspshansen 3 years ago
"We've witnessed languages adding words year after year"
The language already existed. In ancient languages like Hebrew, Greek, Assyrian, etc, words typically had more meanings than in modern languages. Languages are becoming more specific by adding words. Going backwards, this results in the language of Adam.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
you ignore the obvious, Nephilim.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
3. That every literate language (and practically every illiterate one) can be proven to be descended from one and the same parent language.
4. That every parent language is superior in every way to each and every one of its descendent languages.
These facts shatter the religion of Darwinian evolution; nevertheless, people have a right to worship tree stumps if they persist in being so inclined.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
Nephilim...there's so many errors in that that I don't even know where to start...and based on our previous discussions, I don't see a point in even bothering with you. I will say this. We've witnessed languages adding words year after year and in such are "more complex", but in the end, these additions are made to "simplify" our communications so that a single word takes the place of a lengthy explanation.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
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dimthelight 4 years ago 3
1. That no group of people, once they lose the memory of their writing system, has ever been able to regain it again without outside help.
2. That no group of people, once they lose the memory of their spoken language, has ever been able to regain it again without outside help. That is, if you were to isolate newborn persons and never speak to them, they would never of themselves create anything like a spoken language.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
Scholars will tell you that older languages are more primitive than newer ones, since this is what the religion called Darwin's Theory of Evolution requires. Exactly the opposite is true.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
What you have described is the observation that people who have similar language have diverged since migrating to a particular area of the earth after Babylon. Chinese and japanese is a perfect example: the divergance of the original oriental tongue and people.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
With "Sons of God" are meant people, who were very religios.
GingerAutie 4 years ago
uh huh...so the people who were very religious came down from heaven and had sex with women and gave birth to giants?????
KingHeathen 4 years ago
who said, that they came down from heaven? that is just your interpretation.
GingerAutie 4 years ago
ok...so very religious people ON EARTH had sex with women (weren't they SUPPOSED to do that?) and gave birth to GIANTS. As you try to remove the fantasism from the story, you lose the point and even end up making it more difficult to believe.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
There is nothing to believe. Study the history of religions or whatch the Zeitgeist movie on the internet.
GingerAutie 4 years ago
ahh...I think I found the problem...you think that I'm "promoting" the Genesis flood...I'm an atheist. I don't believe one split second of it. As for Zeitgeist...it's decent, but not 100% accurate. It's 9/11 claims are highly disproven. And some of it's religion claims are a bit presumptive (though possible)
KingHeathen 4 years ago
Which informations are a "bit presumtive" on the zeitgeistmovie?
I think that your problem on the reliios part is, that you are trying to defend yourself, but I think that there is no need to do that and others can see it from a different angle. I don't see THAT as a problem.
GingerAutie 4 years ago
I turn that question to you...which parts where presented with FACTS and which with just conjecture? Remember, I'm fully convinced the Christian religion is VERY full of it...but let's not just attach coinsidences together and call it fact.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
For me is the bible like a big book full of fairy tails. And that is not meant in a negative way. You are supposed to learn out of fairy tails but not to take them too serious too on the other hand. But of course, you don't need the Bible to come along in life, but I think that it is still a very interesting book and for my part, I think fighting about it or making wars is totally senseless.
GingerAutie 4 years ago
lol, do I detect a hint of sarcasm in your voice? Anyone would think you didnt believe any of it, hehe.
kalsolarUK 4 years ago
Anyway, you copped out already. I tried to help you but you deny any evidence provided to you because you refuse to investigate things on your own. You should wake up one day. You will realize just how wrong you are about evolution. I hope for your sake you do. Take care. I won't bug you anymore. Good luck.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
Promise?
KingHeathen 4 years ago
You told me you would not read them and came back with a few questions, so you just copped out. Evolution is a falicy designed to make you not believe in God. It works for some. If I say, "The box is black." and the box is the most important subject on earth, do you believe me without investigating for yourself all sides, or jsut swallow what I say? if not, why do you do it for evolution theory?
NephilimFree 4 years ago
nope...try again. And I have looked into evolution and it is all proven...get over it. You lack the ability to understand it.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
He doesn't lack the ability, he just doesn't want to acknowledge the facts.
O yeh and evolution doesn't disprove the existance of god, though it does disprove the the existance of the Abrahmic god.
giansideros 4 years ago
Yea, but you are so brainwashed and in denial of scientific evidence for order and complexity being impossible to arise on it's own, that it's just fun. Such as your telling me that you would not read several responses I sent. Trypical. "Oh look! It's evidence of creation!" *delete* Sheesh.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
you sent me SIX FULL messages...I read and responded to ONE and tried to FOCUS on the points of that one to see if we could come to any agreement on those BEFORE moving on to the next one...then you send me FOUR MORE to my 1...What I was trying to get you to understand was to CONSOLIDATE your thoughts a little and STAY ON TOPIC. You lack simple conversation skills...and I assure you...you didn't have EVIDENCE of anything.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
Isn't it funny how all human languages are related and have so many similarities? Well, since all people were of one culture once in Babylon, and God split their languages, I guess there's no mystery there either.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
LMAO!!!! OK, two parter here...since everyone else wasn't allowed to see our PM correspondence...didn't you say something about not responding to me any more and even "blocking" me?
KingHeathen 4 years ago
2nd, languages are all related because once man gained the ability to speak, his vocabulary was still small. As we spread out and continued to evolve, people in one part of the world added new words, dropped a few and gain certain accents...THE SAME WAY people in England speak a different version of English than Americans despite the majority of us having COME FROM England in our ancestry. Spanish in Mexico is different than Spanish in Spain, Cuba, or Puerto Rico.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
Not all human languages are related hence we have groups such as Indo-European, Sinitic, Altaic, Uralic, Afro-Semetic etc to group languages that have no relation to one another.
giansideros 4 years ago
1) People are moving around and the languages are getting mixed up (see for ex. Afrikaans, who has piked up words from Indonesian languages, Xhosa, Khoikhoi and other languages. And why? Because it is surrounded by those languages and the Dutch people who moved to Africa where simply piking up words from other languages.
GingerAutie 4 years ago
@ NephilimFree
2) I once wanted to learn Zulu and I couldn't find so many relations and after a time I quit it, because it was so totally different, because it is spoken in a totally different part of the world, where MY natural language developed. Languages are usually more related to each other, when they developed close to each other.
GingerAutie 4 years ago
Can you offer a better explaination as to why there is untold amounts of methan in solid form on the ocean floor around all of the continental shelves? or are you just trying to avoid the obvious? Think about it, and think about how sternly you deny something when scientific evidence is profound. Is this not what all evos do in the face of the lack of evidence for evolution and the perponderance of creation evidence?
NephilimFree 4 years ago
Methane is produced by bacteria eating bio matter. That is why it exists in great quantities in coal mines deep in the earth. So there was a trmendous amount of plant matter deposited along the continental shelves. This is irefutable. how did the trillions of plants get deposited around the continental shelves? What mov4ed it there? Answer: LOTS OF WATER.
NephilimFree 4 years ago
seriously...go read a book by SECULAR scientists...ones WITHOUT AN AGENDA TO SELL! We're done discussing this, you aren't going to convince me and obviously you are too far gone to help. WE ARE DONE.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
The USGS is full of real scientists. Thousands of creationists are real scientists. The USGS shows you that the solid methane is there, all around all of the continental plates. It is methan that vame from somewhere other than inside the earth, because it is captured in ice on the ocean floor. Do you have some other explaination as to where it came from that could enlighten the world?
NephilimFree 4 years ago
I suppose there is some other explainationf for such a trmendous amount of methane to be on the ocean floor but not coming out of the earth just along all of the continental shelves? This methane is SOLID. It is not a gas. It is trapped in ice. If it were from inside the earth, it would be gas. But it's not. It's SOLID!
NephilimFree 4 years ago