College is unbelievably easy. All you people who think you are in a "hard" major, oh please, there are no hard majors. College is a piece of cake for everyone of us unless you're some kind of drunk or something then don't expect anything out of life.
@JesusPaid4You what course your doing beauty therapy the course im doing aint no walk over its god damn hard and boring. Im doing civil engineering its no piece of cake. My brother thought i was being a bitch complaining about how hard my course was. I showed him my lecture notes and he shat himself because he did bio-medical science which he told me wasnt nowhere near as hard.
I am getting a M.S. degree at UF in Forensic Science, chemistry, and it is sooooo easy breezy. It's on online program. And that's what I'm doing, avoiding the real world as long as possible, a 30-year-old career student, making straight-A's taking out student loans I'll never pay back. Kidding. Or maybe I'm not kidding. Well, just watch, failure to pay back student loans (SO EASY to get), will be the next housing market crash type phenomenon.
I'd say in tandem with that that time is of the essence. I looked at my Facebook friends list from people with high school, college, and grad level work. Let it be said that we all are employed. But I will say that those who pursued higher degrees generally are doing better and buying homes at 25. Most of my fellow B.S. earners from Penn State, Pitt, et al. are all in the field after graduating. A couple of us college goers are working retail. The HSers are simply doing menial labor since '04.
@redoctober90 So, in general, the job market sucks right now, and yes, it is a good idea to do what you are good at. But keep in mind that like I said in your other video, it is important that you always update your resume with new skills and such and never sit pat on your accomplishments. All of the people who I work retail with who are my age have college degrees or are getting one. I will say skill is to knowledge as a transmission is to an engine, so I contest your "skill=knowledge" comment.
@redoctober90 You're the type of person who looks at everyone's facebook so you can measure their success to yours just for your own self gratification and self esteem which isn't too high when you have to compare yourself to your friends on facebook judging by what their profile says.
@SenneffRules Well, for someone who doesn't have the finances to solicit a random survey of the American population, I think it's a pretty good cross section. The high school I went to had both Section 4 public housing and million-dollar estates within the boundary, and living in Pennsylvania means we have the upper and lower classes within miles of each other. And I don't think of it as much as the self esteem factor as much as it is crafting an expectation for the road ahead.
10.6% is the unemployment rate for new college grads. What are the rates for UNDEREMPLOYMENT for new college grads? I mean those college grads who may or may not be doing something related to their major but get paid something ridiculously lower than their education level would warrant 10, 20, 25 years ago. What about rates of underemployment? Things that make you go HMMMM. ;-)
Ginad17...I wish there were fewer people like yourself who tell students to study what they love, regardless of the dearth of jobs in the field or poor income potential. After being a dirt poor beggar for a few years....doing what you "love" will seem as much of a nightmare as doing what pays. Better to teach students to do a job they can handle that is in the highest demand and pays the most.
Not everybody goes to college to make money. I am an education major I know I will never be rich and I know that there are people who will not go to college and make more than I will. I don't care about that. I don't go around telling people not to go to college, why are you picking on people who decide to go to college. You jealous that you don't have a college degree?
@ginad17 No, I'm not jealous. Anyone who is somewhat functionally literate (or not) can get a college degree. I was an engineering major and am a member of three academic honor societies. My main concern about college is the student loan racket. I want people to realize how bad student loan debt is and that a college degree is not an automatic ticket to a decent job.
@DontGoToCollege Then just warn them about student loans and how to be smart about them, maybe give some good scholarship information. you don't have to imply that everyone who decides to go to college is stupid for doing so.
Here is a thought: One reason why college degrees may be worth LESS in the job market is because there are too many people have have degrees in similar fields, perhaps?? In the earlier times of college education, fewer people had easy access to higher education..........so, a college education would have been a much bigger deal back then, but definitely not in this day and age, going further into the 21st century.
It really depends on what kind of degree you have. Political Philosophy: worthless from the perspective of job prospects. Accounting: can help you significantly. It's great if you can get the job you want without college, but many jobs still require degrees & certifications, continuing education, etc. Many entry-level positions require a BA/BS. This is true for teachers, engineers, nurses, and many other popular professions.
If someone else tells me that you need a college education to get a job, I am going to kick them in the teeth. Fucking felons can get a job, but when some one without so much a spot on their record can get employment.
Where did you hear that the unemployment rate of college grads is 10.6%? Please site a source because it means being a college grad is an actual disadvantage to employment. It is higher than the national unemployment rate.
Here are some number you might want to add to your videos. 14.4 10.0 8.4 4.4 What are these numbers? Unemployment rates. Specifically... Unemployment rate for those with less than high school diploma-14.4 Unemployment for those with high school diploma-10.0 Unemployment for those with some college-8.4 Unemployment for those with Bachelors degree or higher-4.4 Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
We are in a time when schooling is not affordable or worth it at the current time. People need jobs right now, and debt in college is just not worth it in these rough ecconomic times.
This is the best video I've ever watched!!! He's talking about me!!! I wish I hadn't been brain washed when I was younger and just went to tech school.
Education is second to work experience. In all honesty, education is not really important because I see idiots and dropouts with good jobs, not great ones, mind you, but good jobs none the less.
In closing, people with good educations can't get a job while dropouts and bums can get a job.
@jenningsslayer314 exactly. say you have two guys growing up with each other. One is really smart and works hard in school getting A's. So natually he goes to college and graduates. the other guy is pretty dumb. He got mostly D's in high school. He decided to become a plumber. He started out as a apprenctice and then 3-5 years latter he's achieved journeyman status and is now making 50G's a year. What is the smart college grad doing now? Waiting tables. Thats the sad reality.
@jenningsslayer314 Education is hardly second to work experience if a job explicitly requires a specific degree in a particular field. You don't get a whole lot of experience in many medical fields unless you have a degree in them in the first place.
@JBarkerDesigns: That is not what I am talking about. What I mean is that if you work hard your whole life, you can get by on hard work while you educate yourself, for free, I might add.
@jenningsslayer314 You can get by generally, but no amount of 'hard work' or self education will make you surgeon if you don't go to medical school, just for one example. As I said before, if you just want to make a living doing any type of work to earn you a decent wage, college is probably not for you. Not 'you' specifically, but just anyone in general. College is probably best for those who want to either be something specific (teacher, doctor) or just pursue knowledge for its own sake.
As a CEO I do not include any education certificates prerequisite even for the highest position on my company, just an interview , EXPERIENCE and a big portfolio of what they have done is enough.
Last year i hired a student for a part time entry position, and he ask me why we don't ask for a degree?? i told him I never went to college, I push the shit of me to be where i am and that didn't take 4-5 years.
College is not bad if you can afford it just remember is not worth the debt.
@kukovrein Many job applicants don't know this. My old boss had to interview sales candidates for high-profile pharmaceutical sales. These people would come in with master's degrees and crap acting like the world OWED them something. Funny thing was - the CEO and many of the executives didn't have degrees. All self-taught and respected a hard worker over an "educated" one. Knowing how to write an essay on Alinsky and feeling entitled can't stack up to strength of character and work ethic.
@kukovrein It is worth the debt if you want to go in to a field which requires a college degree, and the fact is, there are many such fields and many people who want to go in to them.
Plus, while you may not include education requirements, you are the exception. The majority of job postings in many fields as for specific skills and prefer a degree. For many positions, you can't even GET an interview without one. You may not NEED the degree for the position, but there are reasons they want one.
Great video; I am an MBA grad and make more money promoting silver and gold. I am my own boss and I am in control of my time and money. I have over 30,000 opt-in leads because I have put my business' on autopilot. I still have student loans that I pay, but I can pay that off faster through silver and gold since fiat money is worthless. Why work for anyone when you can work for yourself, yes? Visit my youtube video, I am an inventor and investor and want to help others with their business profile
I have a degree in business and can't find a job anywhere. I did get two interviews the week after I graduated, but the manager hired a guy that had 20 years of experience. Luckily, my aunt is going to hire me for temp work at the IRS. It is better than nothing and I hold very low expectations in this economy. Inflation is outrageous right now because food is going up and gas prices continue to rise. No job, No sense of security, and No money= Epic Fail. Only way to get a job is to network.
A BA used to be special because it was relatively rare and only the cognitive elite went so employers knew that they were getting the creme with graduates. Now with so many going to college standards have been lowered, there is a glut of graduates, and employers are much less impressed.
Yet colleges are greedily capitalizing on this, compounding the problem and making it even worse. Many years ago you had to meet certain criteria before you could even step foot inside a college but nowadays just so they can line their wallets colleges are accepting anybody regardless of their grades...and I'm sure they are laughing all the way to the bank about it as well!!
At 1:04 he says “many weaker students are attending college when other options would have served them better.” I agree with him here but as mentioned in one of his other videos most of these folks probably fell victim to the “go to college” “go to college” “go to college” brainwashing of society thinking that the only way to a good paying job is to go to college. Maybe in the days of old going to college was the ticket to a good paying job but not anymore!
If the first vellum scrip was worthless, then why is throwing good dollars after bad a good idea? If university is teaching obsolete crap while the fucking BANKERS are shipping in communist Chinese to teach them the REAL skills for all the factories dislocated to china, university ought to be discredited and shut down.
It simply doesn't pay to be a college educated American anymore. Many of the middle class jobs have have been outsourced overseas. You can't even get a steady job digging ditches or cutting lawns anymore because illegals have taken those jobs. Hiring American workers is a huge liability because they cost much, much more to employ than someone in another country or from another country who will work at a small fraction of the price. You need to be lucky to succeed in today's world, kids.
The problem for young inexperienced workers todays is that because of the economy many laid off experienced workers are going for the same entry level job as the young recent grads. Who do you think the employer is going to hire? the experienced worker. Why not get a guy whos experienced and willing to work for the same amount of money?
The colleges advertise themselves as if the good jobs are only available to people with their degrees. This is complete BS.
the well paying jobs today are obtainable mostly by people with 10+ years work experience in that field. Companies are promoting a certian steryotype of person these days. That person is 30-40 years old, has 10 years experience, at least 5 with THAT company, attractive, well liked and social. Usually male, has a hot wife, and young kids.
i got one qestion why the hell do stundents have sex and alcohol and party and shit as fare is i know we dont do that in my country only few ppl do that shit
That's why trade schools or community colleges are better. Train as a chef, you can easily find a job anywhere because everybody has to eat. Auto repair, you know how many cars breakdown or need oil change everyday? And the tuition is like what $3000? I don't know can you get a student loan that less but if you could, you can easily pay it off in no time.
Yes, at the community college where I live...fees are 73 dollars per credit hour. DIRT cheap! Trade schools are probably abt the same. After this economy finishes collapsing soon...most ppl's career's will be finished forever...including mine. You're right...if you can get into a community college or trade school..DO IT and do it now! I know that I am going to do it.
@Rototill27 Yep. A lot of known people who went to ivy league schools have run these companies ( I.E GM, Robert Wagner for example ) to the ground and they have the highest education possible. 10 years of failing cars and Japan keeps improving their cars, year by year. Now Hyundai is in the mix. Goes to show you, education sometimes doesn't mean anything.
You're absolutely right. The best CEO's and businessmen either never went to college period...or were average college students(not Ivy League). Gate & Microsoft....etc. Good example with GM. GM is such a crappy car company. Everything they make is trash and they are only still around because of the bailouts from us taxpayers. Sucess in life comes down to finding your niche in life and putting your own spin on it. Not some useless piece of paper with a price attached to it.
@Rototill27 Don't worry. Hyundai, Toyota, Honda and many other over sea companies will be the universal car makers, because of greedy, poor excuse of CEOs destroying good quality car companies. GM failed, but I ride an Impala, so I can't blame them.
it's true. I have a BA in psychology and a ton of experience on my resume but sadly it's all useless. I haven't given up but it's affecting me physically, mentally, and emotionally.
@alangentrinapestegui Did you notice how the majority of the professors act like they have something really itchy up their rear end all the time? lol. Sorry, to hear about your situation.
@alangentrinapestegui im a psych major, id like to know more about your situation cause i dont want to get a degree and go work at cheddars or red lobster....
I must point out, being just the kind of person who has advanced degrees but not much sucess in making money since I graduated (ie poor), that going to college DOES make you more aware of more than basic necessities of life(ie football and tits and sneakers), it really does make you aware and intelligent of issues greater than mundane crap. Bottom line it is good for you, makes you smarter, more logical, and more literate and aware. It's the employers who hire that don't appreciate this....
@Chunes3 I agree with you about college graduates mostly being clueless football watching dolts: that's putting it too nicely though. College literally reinforces an anti-intellectual rube like mentality and lifestyle that of course devolves our society rather than progresses it. Colleges really aren't progressive at all to be honest.
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I would not be willing put myself into debt to sit through muck courses like the ones that I crossed out. I would much rather concentrate on something more tangible like a CCIM designation rather than regurgitating useless information in order to obtain a piece of paper.
The CCIM designation will benefit me far more than a dime-a-dozen undergrad degree.
@elsamuraiguapo But you still have to take a handful of courses that are not relevant to your major. And the quality of each class varies. More than half of my professors couldn't speak English and when they presented their "work" on powerpoints it was pretty useless. Homework is like high school ... a bunch of annoying endless busy work.
@dutytocareforothers hence the point of getting an education in liberal arts. I think it's a good thing that people are required to take a wide variety of courses that will broaden their perspectives.
As for teachers not speaking english...I haven't come across that problem other than in foreign language courses - which is to be expected.
@elsamuraiguapo "Broaden their perspectives" Sounds alot like "Becoming well-rounded". Which really means "A hustle to take your money" LOL I can broaden my perspectives for free on the internet and at the library.
I agree with this. I have two degrees, including a masters and am unemployed 2 years. I am one of the "skilled" ones but no difference. I agree part of the reason is too many people went to college. I attended college with some people who were barely literate, yet I am competiting for jobs with them. The guy I love is a blue collar guy (thought college was worthless) and if we have kids, I am going to convince them to attend trade school.
You should have gotten a degree with a license following graduation and experience. Licenses cut down on the number of idiots in the field and provide legal job security. Had you gotten a degree and one of these licenses you would be fine: CPA,RN,CRNA, Nurse practioner, chiropractor, dentist, CFA, CFP, plumbing license...... etc.
I have a better idea, instead of not going to college, why don't you go to college and get a real degree? People go and get degrees in film, pan-african studies, art and philosophy and complain that they can't get a job....
Well NO SHIT!
Go major in biochemistry, engineering, accounting or use your degree as a stepping stone to go to law school, medical school, dental school, pharmacy school, veterinary school....
Don't major in something stupid and blame the colleges for not finding a job!
If you major in accounting and get above a 3.3 gpa at a AACSB accredited business school it is more likely than not you will have a staff accountant job offer before graduation.(>50%). Sit for the cpa pass the test and meet the experience requirement and you have a guaranteed 80k a year job for life. (assuming circumstances don't change drastically and you don't commit fraud)
@Rockynurse That's just wishful thinking. Accountants are becoming more and more useless. Small business owners learn to do their own tax papers and big companies already have accountants. You don't see million dollar companies popping out of nowhere who are willing to pay 80k a year to some cock sucker that knows how to fill out paper forms.
Cite me a single source that says the market for CPA's is shrinking......
Small business owners that are organized as a C corp must file annual audited financial statements with the SEC. Legally there is no way around it and CPAs are the only professionals licensed to perform audits.
Accounting is becoming ever more complex with higher taxes and more regulation for C corps. The field of accounting and auditing is predicted to grow much faster than average according the the BLS!
@Rockynurse Google "monetary system collapse" or "economic collapse. Once it happens, your degree will be rendered useless and you will have 0 practical skills. Accounting = management of non-existent fiat currency that is printed out of thin air.
=D When will the USD collapse? What do you do for a living?
Alumni from my university hold some of the most prestigious positions in the finance and accounting industries. It is the responsibility and privilege of the accounting profession to measure performance of companies. The economy will go up and down intermittently but in the long run we will become more efficient and move towards global financial integration!
The USA won't have a crisis like Greece or Portugal!
Do you realize how much accounting sucks? Auditing is the WORST field of accounting. Horrendous hours(55-60+ hrs per week), average pay and you work with a bunch of of antisocial losers with no lives who equally hate their jobs. Who in their right mind would go into accounting?
I enjoy accounting and no the pay isn't average. My buddy at PWC is 25 and he makes 90k per year. As long as you can handle the hours and you enjoy the work accounting is very lucrative. Especially public accounting!
@Rockynurse This blog is about how college is useless. Please step aside if you do not agree with it. It is clear you have nothing to contribute on this matter. Good bye.
Not all college is useless just most of college is useless. Some majors are so useless it is laughable. In some fields you cannot break into the field without a college education. Such as law, medicine, accounting, financially planning, and many other fields.
I think everyone needs post high school education but we need to have it in the right direction. No more grievance majors like African studies and more technical schools that teach marketable skills.
@Rockynurse We do need more technical schools that can give you a valuable certificate within one year. The courses should involve intense technical training in a variety of corporate related fields that will be useful for employment. But the pitiful side to all of this "better education" disease is that corporations keep off shoring jobs. It's their sneaky way in making profits. It has been going on for decades. It's nothing new. But it looks like it could get worse.
@Rockynurse I overall agree with you. My solution would be for colleges to promote double majors: one degree in a subject of the student's choice, the other degree in a subject which is job-oriented, toward a field in which there is a high projected future demand for jobs (e.g. accounting, finance, etc.).
I totally agree with this video. I start grad school in the fall because it is a personal goal, but I am a military veteran and the military is paying for my schooling, then I may go back into the military. But real world experience is better than college, hands down so I am glad to have a bit of both. Thank you for trying to help others, I know people who are so stressed out for not having a degree but maybe they should see this and relax..
most college degrees (the world over) are worthless mainly because there are very few jobs. It is pretty obvious when you have thousands of people applying for 1 available position that a college education is not going to go anywhere near guaranteeing work, especially when you consider that the richest will have been bookmarked for certain top jobs before they are even 12 years old.
I never attended college, but i had it shoved down my throat by careers advisors..telling me i'd be wasting ctd
my life if i didn't. instead I began working for the civil service. Within 2 years I was a planning officer, earning 30 thousand a year (pounds)....dollar wise, it is probably a fair bit more. many of those I know that went to college have still not found work, some 6-7 years after qualifying, but also many have.
The truth as I see it, is that if you are poor, your future is determined by chance, should you decide to follow the life planned by your government. ctd
ctd3, last part> the reality is that if you want to get money, you have to think that you are completely on your own, because you are. You got to find a niche that is untapped, or an individual skill you have you can make money with. Write, take photographs, paint, buy and sell on ebay, amazon, start your own business...
LOL! What exactly do you do for a living besides post silly youtube videos? And do you have a college degree? If so, what degree, in what, and from what school???
I'm unemployed and homeless just like the 73% of the adult population with no college degree. Fortunately for us the price of aluminum is high and we manage to get by.
@DontGoToCollege I really do like this videos. I'm not going back to college at all. My family still sees going to college as the way out of poverty and remedial jobs but I'm starting to see the truth for what it is.
He is absolutely right. 99% of college degrees are a waste of time. I have two degrees. I did manage to find a job that uses at least one of my degrees as a prerequisite for employment..but that's it. All I do all day is enter stuff into a computer. The job sucks and I am unhappy everyday. Jobs that require college degrees are boring, lonely, mindless jobs that you will gain no satisfaction from. It's sad to know that you've worked hard for a crappy work life like this. College sucks.
Actually, you are wrong here I am afraid. Yes, the job market does suck but there are certain industries that require college education that will never return and others that are just way too flooded to even consider. College does suck. It's just a major brainwashing episode that serves no real purpose. I knew that I was smart before college and most of the stuff that they "teach" you..you can learn from a book at the library. Unless you want to go into healthcare, it's not worth it at all.
You are examining college from a subjective, performance based rationale.
This is predictable and quite common but still wrong. 4 year colleges and universities are not set up to teach job skills. You can go to a local trade, tech or business school for that.
Traditional colleges teach subject matter and impart knowledge in such subjects. That's it.
If this were clearly defined, perhaps people won't feel college sucks.
@Rototill27 AM WITH YOU A 100 PERCENT. COLLEGE IS NECESSARY REGARDLESS. HOWEVER, IT IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY. I CANT PLAY BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL, BECOME A RAPPER, A PIMP OR OWN A NIGHT CLUB. COLLEGE IS NECESSARY TO AVOID COMPETITION IN THE CORPORATE. IMAGINE CORPORATE JOBS HIRING WITHOUT A DEGREE. THE IMPLICATION IS A MASSIVE COMPETITION; THUS COLLEGE IS NECESSARY TO AVOID THAT COMPETITION.
You are right about me not being fulfilled with my job. Jobs that require college degrees suck and they are unfulfilled. They eat away at you like cancer. Honestly, the best job that I ever had was when I was in college and working at a gas station. I had lots of friends..I had a job that felt rewarding that people thanked me for. Most college degrees are a ticket to boring, cancerous, thankless jobs. You're better off learning something valuable like a skilled trade.
are you serious? Where have you been for the past two to 3 years with the economy the way it is? The ONLY degrees that are worth the risk of college now are degrees that will get you into the healthcare industry. BTW accounting sucks and the collapse of the financial system has released a glut of experienced ones onto the market. Not to mention all of the new ppl trying to get into the field.
My thoughts exactly. The debt load after college is SO not worth it. You will be strapped with zombie debt + interest for at LEAST 10 years. That's only if you can find a decent job in ur field to pay for the loans.
The host is playing with fire here. We live in a still-recessionary time with millions of people out of work. Those unemployed run the gamut from college grads to high school grads. He neglects to look at the reality which is that the BA is considered an essential prequisite by many employers. As for the so-called fact that any "semi-literate" person can get a degree, Why don't you have one? You look semi-literate and semi-intelligent to me. Stop misleading people.
No, I have a degree. I'm not a student so therefore I wouldn't "majoring" in anything anymore. Yes, you are playing with fire. We have a crappy economy. Telling people who have the ability and desire to go to college not to would be like telling starving people not to eat rice during a famine and just waste away and die. Your videos are filled with to the brim with illogical and unsupported arguments. If you made salient points, I could concede your arguments but you don't so I won't.
That is the problem with you-you dont care. Employers care, companies care and people care which is why they have spent the time and money going to college to get the degrees they either want or need. You lack the logic and comprehension to understand that the work world has changed. If you want blame someone, blame companies and corporations not students and their parents. Otherwise, you are not only drinking your own drug-laced Koolaid but eating those special brownies. Party on dude!
The world has changed. Getting deep into debt for a college degree may have been good advice a generation or two ago. But it's an extremely risky thing to do now.
Your are the one who is religiously following Industrial Age paradigms in the Information Age.
The only risk is because colleges and universities boost their tuition and fees over the years.
Again, you want to bash colleges but you want to blame students and parents for costs that they have no control over.
I follow post-industrial age paradigms that state you need both college and other forms of learning to have an education. Learning doesn't end after you get a degree.
The postwar boom may be long over but the importance and centrality of the BA or BS degree remains.
The Guy in this video Is Telling the truth Dude. My Cousin who didn't even graduate from High School lives Out of state and has a Well paying job. So did My other Cousin & My best friend. No HSD what so ever, and Makes more money than me, A person with a HSD. I'm trying to find free Colleges In Michigan, Or somewhere Near Detroit
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Actually, the guy in the video is not telling the truth, dude.
He insists on blaming students and parents for student debt which is total and utter bullshit. Colleges and universities raise tuition and fees all the time.
The comparison you are making is irrelevent to the discussion. You are comparing yourself ( a HSG) to your cousin (a HSD). That has nothing to do with whether degrees are worth having or not.
I certainly wish you well in finding a college that's right for you.
I think that most people who support these ideas do not have a degree and in all reality, feel inferior to those with a degree. This is why they make videos like this. Also, some colleges teach students to look down on people that are less fortunate and for this reason I do not blame you.
I agree - some people are made to feel inferior because of the lack of college and I hate that. Actually, I'm a member of three academic honor societies and was an engineering major.
Engineering majors are taught to look down on most other majors. (This part of me resurfaces when some English major calls me "uneducated"!)
However, there are a lot of people WITH college degrees who are facing reality when that good-paying job they were promised didn't happen and they are deep in debt.
Good point but lets think about the work Dale Carnegie and the lessions he wanted us to learn. People skills. If you get layed off because the corporation is cutting expenses you will find another job or already have one lined up if you are that good with people. May not be a good idea to discourage people from seeking education after giving this thought.
The biggest obstacle to defeat college hoax is none other than our parents. They are totally brainwashed by the government to accept the college education as only way to survive. So whenever someone exposes the dark truth behind the colleges, parents accuse him or her as some kind of psychopaths.
I think it may be useful to point out that State subsidy has largely fueled the % of college student increase, which of course, lowers the quality of education in that it is no longer being taught to the brightest student but more toward the average student. Either way, the blame falls onto the State for perverting the equilibrium supply of college education...and the demand.
Excellent point. The constant government school brainwashing that says only college graduates can make a decent living also perverts the equilibrium of supply and demand.
I got my BS degree back in 2003. Since then, I've either been unemployed or underemployed. I'm currently unemployed again after getting laid off from my dead end job, while my non-degree holding coworkers got to keep their job because of office politics.
@lipserviceme Employers think that degree holders have an easier time finding jobs so they are easily layed off. While people without degrees are not. At least that's what I think.
Finally, an article talking about the remedial students going to college. When I went to school I competed with some of them and it was embarassing. They should have gone to trade schools instead. Now we are competiting for the same jobs.
Colleges have one purpose: to make more money off students. I have a MA degree and it has HURT me get jobs, because it makes me "overqualified". If I knew what I know now, I would have gotten into an useful field, NOT communications and marketing.
i agree with you except about the master's degree, in certain specific fields it is more valuable to go right for a master's or a specialized degree like a law degree or medical school.
i am an economics major and i wont really be qualified to work for federal institutions until i get my MBA.
i chose economics as my major because it is broad, while still focused within the business field. i do expect to make 40K + a year, but that is not solely because of my degree, i believe
I know a lot of folks with MBA's who can't get jobs or who are under employed (taking up jobs for which they are underpaid). I know someone who is the boss over people with MBA's who went to work right out of high school in his industry.
i believe u, but its my experience (with my relatives and whatnot) that the people who are motivated will find a good job, no matter what their education level is, my reasoning for going to college is that later in life i may be looking for a job and having a degree will help, i dont want to end up in my father's situation having to manage a store after getting laid off of a much higher paying position and having no degree but 30+ years exp in bussiness.
My girlfriend works at Goldman and tells me that those with english and history degrees generations ago could get on the street. Now they only want math and engineering based degrees (or personal connections). The market only respects relevant objectively graded (math etc) majors. What 18 year old's poem really worth an A?
College is unbelievably easy. All you people who think you are in a "hard" major, oh please, there are no hard majors. College is a piece of cake for everyone of us unless you're some kind of drunk or something then don't expect anything out of life.
JesusPaid4You 1 month ago
@JesusPaid4You what course your doing beauty therapy the course im doing aint no walk over its god damn hard and boring. Im doing civil engineering its no piece of cake. My brother thought i was being a bitch complaining about how hard my course was. I showed him my lecture notes and he shat himself because he did bio-medical science which he told me wasnt nowhere near as hard.
jabjabgrab123 2 weeks ago
I am getting a M.S. degree at UF in Forensic Science, chemistry, and it is sooooo easy breezy. It's on online program. And that's what I'm doing, avoiding the real world as long as possible, a 30-year-old career student, making straight-A's taking out student loans I'll never pay back. Kidding. Or maybe I'm not kidding. Well, just watch, failure to pay back student loans (SO EASY to get), will be the next housing market crash type phenomenon.
JesusPaid4You 1 month ago
I'd say in tandem with that that time is of the essence. I looked at my Facebook friends list from people with high school, college, and grad level work. Let it be said that we all are employed. But I will say that those who pursued higher degrees generally are doing better and buying homes at 25. Most of my fellow B.S. earners from Penn State, Pitt, et al. are all in the field after graduating. A couple of us college goers are working retail. The HSers are simply doing menial labor since '04.
redoctober90 3 months ago
@redoctober90 So, in general, the job market sucks right now, and yes, it is a good idea to do what you are good at. But keep in mind that like I said in your other video, it is important that you always update your resume with new skills and such and never sit pat on your accomplishments. All of the people who I work retail with who are my age have college degrees or are getting one. I will say skill is to knowledge as a transmission is to an engine, so I contest your "skill=knowledge" comment.
redoctober90 3 months ago
@redoctober90 You're the type of person who looks at everyone's facebook so you can measure their success to yours just for your own self gratification and self esteem which isn't too high when you have to compare yourself to your friends on facebook judging by what their profile says.
SenneffRules 2 months ago
@SenneffRules Well, for someone who doesn't have the finances to solicit a random survey of the American population, I think it's a pretty good cross section. The high school I went to had both Section 4 public housing and million-dollar estates within the boundary, and living in Pennsylvania means we have the upper and lower classes within miles of each other. And I don't think of it as much as the self esteem factor as much as it is crafting an expectation for the road ahead.
redoctober90 2 months ago
my worthless degree without debt im loving my waitress job
kichaawetu 3 months ago
10.6% is the unemployment rate for new college grads. What are the rates for UNDEREMPLOYMENT for new college grads? I mean those college grads who may or may not be doing something related to their major but get paid something ridiculously lower than their education level would warrant 10, 20, 25 years ago. What about rates of underemployment? Things that make you go HMMMM. ;-)
veloreb 4 months ago in playlist dontgotocollege
It's all about social networking. it's all about who you know. if you want something just get it. don't whine dont cry about it just go get it!
iamprotoss1 4 months ago
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iamprotoss1 4 months ago
Ginad17...I wish there were fewer people like yourself who tell students to study what they love, regardless of the dearth of jobs in the field or poor income potential. After being a dirt poor beggar for a few years....doing what you "love" will seem as much of a nightmare as doing what pays. Better to teach students to do a job they can handle that is in the highest demand and pays the most.
saintgauden 4 months ago
Not everybody goes to college to make money. I am an education major I know I will never be rich and I know that there are people who will not go to college and make more than I will. I don't care about that. I don't go around telling people not to go to college, why are you picking on people who decide to go to college. You jealous that you don't have a college degree?
ginad17 4 months ago
@ginad17 No, I'm not jealous. Anyone who is somewhat functionally literate (or not) can get a college degree. I was an engineering major and am a member of three academic honor societies. My main concern about college is the student loan racket. I want people to realize how bad student loan debt is and that a college degree is not an automatic ticket to a decent job.
DontGoToCollege 4 months ago 8
@DontGoToCollege Then just warn them about student loans and how to be smart about them, maybe give some good scholarship information. you don't have to imply that everyone who decides to go to college is stupid for doing so.
ginad17 4 months ago
Knowledge and wisdom will make you wealthier than a piece of paper.
HFLanciaStratos 5 months ago
The way education is talked about nowadays it is as if it would solve the unemployment problem. Really now...
jenningsslayer314 5 months ago
Here is a thought: One reason why college degrees may be worth LESS in the job market is because there are too many people have have degrees in similar fields, perhaps?? In the earlier times of college education, fewer people had easy access to higher education..........so, a college education would have been a much bigger deal back then, but definitely not in this day and age, going further into the 21st century.
thesiouxgoddess 5 months ago
It really depends on what kind of degree you have. Political Philosophy: worthless from the perspective of job prospects. Accounting: can help you significantly. It's great if you can get the job you want without college, but many jobs still require degrees & certifications, continuing education, etc. Many entry-level positions require a BA/BS. This is true for teachers, engineers, nurses, and many other popular professions.
StealthGoblin1 5 months ago
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jenningsslayer314 6 months ago
If someone else tells me that you need a college education to get a job, I am going to kick them in the teeth. Fucking felons can get a job, but when some one without so much a spot on their record can get employment.
jenningsslayer314 6 months ago
Where did you hear that the unemployment rate of college grads is 10.6%? Please site a source because it means being a college grad is an actual disadvantage to employment. It is higher than the national unemployment rate.
Proemed 7 months ago
JBarkerDesigns 7 months ago
We are in a time when schooling is not affordable or worth it at the current time. People need jobs right now, and debt in college is just not worth it in these rough ecconomic times.
jenningsslayer314 7 months ago
This is the best video I've ever watched!!! He's talking about me!!! I wish I hadn't been brain washed when I was younger and just went to tech school.
mjpitche 9 months ago
Education is second to work experience. In all honesty, education is not really important because I see idiots and dropouts with good jobs, not great ones, mind you, but good jobs none the less.
In closing, people with good educations can't get a job while dropouts and bums can get a job.
jenningsslayer314 9 months ago 2
@jenningsslayer314 exactly. say you have two guys growing up with each other. One is really smart and works hard in school getting A's. So natually he goes to college and graduates. the other guy is pretty dumb. He got mostly D's in high school. He decided to become a plumber. He started out as a apprenctice and then 3-5 years latter he's achieved journeyman status and is now making 50G's a year. What is the smart college grad doing now? Waiting tables. Thats the sad reality.
destroyer8604 8 months ago
@jenningsslayer314 Education is hardly second to work experience if a job explicitly requires a specific degree in a particular field. You don't get a whole lot of experience in many medical fields unless you have a degree in them in the first place.
JBarkerDesigns 7 months ago
@JBarkerDesigns: That is not what I am talking about. What I mean is that if you work hard your whole life, you can get by on hard work while you educate yourself, for free, I might add.
jenningsslayer314 7 months ago
@jenningsslayer314 You can get by generally, but no amount of 'hard work' or self education will make you surgeon if you don't go to medical school, just for one example. As I said before, if you just want to make a living doing any type of work to earn you a decent wage, college is probably not for you. Not 'you' specifically, but just anyone in general. College is probably best for those who want to either be something specific (teacher, doctor) or just pursue knowledge for its own sake.
JBarkerDesigns 7 months ago
As a CEO I do not include any education certificates prerequisite even for the highest position on my company, just an interview , EXPERIENCE and a big portfolio of what they have done is enough.
Last year i hired a student for a part time entry position, and he ask me why we don't ask for a degree?? i told him I never went to college, I push the shit of me to be where i am and that didn't take 4-5 years.
College is not bad if you can afford it just remember is not worth the debt.
kukovrein 9 months ago 3
@kukovrein Many job applicants don't know this. My old boss had to interview sales candidates for high-profile pharmaceutical sales. These people would come in with master's degrees and crap acting like the world OWED them something. Funny thing was - the CEO and many of the executives didn't have degrees. All self-taught and respected a hard worker over an "educated" one. Knowing how to write an essay on Alinsky and feeling entitled can't stack up to strength of character and work ethic.
fenderchick1977 7 months ago
@kukovrein It is worth the debt if you want to go in to a field which requires a college degree, and the fact is, there are many such fields and many people who want to go in to them.
Plus, while you may not include education requirements, you are the exception. The majority of job postings in many fields as for specific skills and prefer a degree. For many positions, you can't even GET an interview without one. You may not NEED the degree for the position, but there are reasons they want one.
JBarkerDesigns 7 months ago
lol I like your shirt
stillirize187 10 months ago
Great video; I am an MBA grad and make more money promoting silver and gold. I am my own boss and I am in control of my time and money. I have over 30,000 opt-in leads because I have put my business' on autopilot. I still have student loans that I pay, but I can pay that off faster through silver and gold since fiat money is worthless. Why work for anyone when you can work for yourself, yes? Visit my youtube video, I am an inventor and investor and want to help others with their business profile
mobius1r 10 months ago
I want to be a MD some day....kinda hard if I don't go to college right?
gasbait 11 months ago
I have a degree in business and can't find a job anywhere. I did get two interviews the week after I graduated, but the manager hired a guy that had 20 years of experience. Luckily, my aunt is going to hire me for temp work at the IRS. It is better than nothing and I hold very low expectations in this economy. Inflation is outrageous right now because food is going up and gas prices continue to rise. No job, No sense of security, and No money= Epic Fail. Only way to get a job is to network.
jenkinst3 11 months ago
My degree was/is, worthless.
Don't bother.
centurion180ad 11 months ago
A BA used to be special because it was relatively rare and only the cognitive elite went so employers knew that they were getting the creme with graduates. Now with so many going to college standards have been lowered, there is a glut of graduates, and employers are much less impressed.
kaunas88 1 year ago
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Yet colleges are greedily capitalizing on this, compounding the problem and making it even worse. Many years ago you had to meet certain criteria before you could even step foot inside a college but nowadays just so they can line their wallets colleges are accepting anybody regardless of their grades...and I'm sure they are laughing all the way to the bank about it as well!!
ryanspeed 1 year ago 3
At 1:04 he says “many weaker students are attending college when other options would have served them better.” I agree with him here but as mentioned in one of his other videos most of these folks probably fell victim to the “go to college” “go to college” “go to college” brainwashing of society thinking that the only way to a good paying job is to go to college. Maybe in the days of old going to college was the ticket to a good paying job but not anymore!
ryanspeed 1 year ago 3
There is much truth in this.
If the first vellum scrip was worthless, then why is throwing good dollars after bad a good idea? If university is teaching obsolete crap while the fucking BANKERS are shipping in communist Chinese to teach them the REAL skills for all the factories dislocated to china, university ought to be discredited and shut down.
centurion180ad 1 year ago
It simply doesn't pay to be a college educated American anymore. Many of the middle class jobs have have been outsourced overseas. You can't even get a steady job digging ditches or cutting lawns anymore because illegals have taken those jobs. Hiring American workers is a huge liability because they cost much, much more to employ than someone in another country or from another country who will work at a small fraction of the price. You need to be lucky to succeed in today's world, kids.
thagoldenchild07 1 year ago
The problem for young inexperienced workers todays is that because of the economy many laid off experienced workers are going for the same entry level job as the young recent grads. Who do you think the employer is going to hire? the experienced worker. Why not get a guy whos experienced and willing to work for the same amount of money?
destroyer8604 1 year ago
The colleges advertise themselves as if the good jobs are only available to people with their degrees. This is complete BS.
the well paying jobs today are obtainable mostly by people with 10+ years work experience in that field. Companies are promoting a certian steryotype of person these days. That person is 30-40 years old, has 10 years experience, at least 5 with THAT company, attractive, well liked and social. Usually male, has a hot wife, and young kids.
rustyscrapper 1 year ago 2
I always wondered why people say college is so hard yet they go out and party every night as if they have time to waste?
LuckyIzzy659 1 year ago
i got one qestion why the hell do stundents have sex and alcohol and party and shit as fare is i know we dont do that in my country only few ppl do that shit
557011 1 year ago
nonsense..... i have a degree from clown college it was the best 40,000 dollars ive ever spent.
pcorn915 1 year ago 4
Why stay in college? Why go to night school?
Gonna be different this time?
Burned all my notebooks, what good are notebooks?
They won't help me survive.
icepickmeetstemple 1 year ago
What's everyone think of the new book "You Have A College Degree, Now What?" Anyone have any feedback on this new book so far?
prehistoric28 1 year ago
What's everyone think of the new book "You Have A College Degree, Now What?" Curious as to everyone's opinion on it.
prehistoric28 1 year ago
Do you know what?! The RICHEST people i know have one thing in common... They have NO education at all!
EDUCATION IS OVERRATED!
HarvardBoxer 1 year ago 5
@HarvardBoxer
Education is not overrated....a COLLEGE education is overrated. If you want to educate yourself, go to the library or use the internet.
Rototill27 1 year ago 18
That's why trade schools or community colleges are better. Train as a chef, you can easily find a job anywhere because everybody has to eat. Auto repair, you know how many cars breakdown or need oil change everyday? And the tuition is like what $3000? I don't know can you get a student loan that less but if you could, you can easily pay it off in no time.
eugene680 1 year ago
@eugene680
Yes, at the community college where I live...fees are 73 dollars per credit hour. DIRT cheap! Trade schools are probably abt the same. After this economy finishes collapsing soon...most ppl's career's will be finished forever...including mine. You're right...if you can get into a community college or trade school..DO IT and do it now! I know that I am going to do it.
Rototill27 1 year ago
@Rototill27 Yep. A lot of known people who went to ivy league schools have run these companies ( I.E GM, Robert Wagner for example ) to the ground and they have the highest education possible. 10 years of failing cars and Japan keeps improving their cars, year by year. Now Hyundai is in the mix. Goes to show you, education sometimes doesn't mean anything.
visionimagify 1 year ago 5
@visionimagify
You're absolutely right. The best CEO's and businessmen either never went to college period...or were average college students(not Ivy League). Gate & Microsoft....etc. Good example with GM. GM is such a crappy car company. Everything they make is trash and they are only still around because of the bailouts from us taxpayers. Sucess in life comes down to finding your niche in life and putting your own spin on it. Not some useless piece of paper with a price attached to it.
Rototill27 1 year ago
@Rototill27 Don't worry. Hyundai, Toyota, Honda and many other over sea companies will be the universal car makers, because of greedy, poor excuse of CEOs destroying good quality car companies. GM failed, but I ride an Impala, so I can't blame them.
visionimagify 1 year ago
@Rototill27 Good Luck teaching yourself Partial Derivatives and multivariable differential equations.
movcrit 5 months ago
it's true. I have a BA in psychology and a ton of experience on my resume but sadly it's all useless. I haven't given up but it's affecting me physically, mentally, and emotionally.
alangentrinapestegui 1 year ago
@alangentrinapestegui Did you notice how the majority of the professors act like they have something really itchy up their rear end all the time? lol. Sorry, to hear about your situation.
dutytocareforothers 1 year ago
@alangentrinapestegui im a psych major, id like to know more about your situation cause i dont want to get a degree and go work at cheddars or red lobster....
cLcnumber31 1 year ago
I must point out, being just the kind of person who has advanced degrees but not much sucess in making money since I graduated (ie poor), that going to college DOES make you more aware of more than basic necessities of life(ie football and tits and sneakers), it really does make you aware and intelligent of issues greater than mundane crap. Bottom line it is good for you, makes you smarter, more logical, and more literate and aware. It's the employers who hire that don't appreciate this....
jackfortunato 1 year ago
@jackfortunato
Wrong. People who are aware come from all strata. College graduates are mostly clueless, football-watching dolts. The same as the greater population.
Chunes3 11 months ago
@Chunes3 I agree with you about college graduates mostly being clueless football watching dolts: that's putting it too nicely though. College literally reinforces an anti-intellectual rube like mentality and lifestyle that of course devolves our society rather than progresses it. Colleges really aren't progressive at all to be honest.
ExposeAustinTexas 11 months ago
William,
Thank you for your interest in Holy Family University's accelerated programs. We only accept transfer credits from regionally accredited institutions. The credits would have to match up with the courses offered in your program of interest. CCIM institute is not a regionally accredited institution, and we would not accept credits. Please contact me with any questions. Thanks.
Ann
Ann Sabol
Admissions Counselor
Division of Extended Learning
bleekblock 1 year ago
Ann,
I would not be willing put myself into debt to sit through muck courses like the ones that I crossed out. I would much rather concentrate on something more tangible like a CCIM designation rather than regurgitating useless information in order to obtain a piece of paper.
The CCIM designation will benefit me far more than a dime-a-dozen undergrad degree.
William
bleekblock 1 year ago
College degrees aren't that expensive if you get financial and aid and go to a state school...
elsamuraiguapo 1 year ago
@elsamuraiguapo But you still have to take a handful of courses that are not relevant to your major. And the quality of each class varies. More than half of my professors couldn't speak English and when they presented their "work" on powerpoints it was pretty useless. Homework is like high school ... a bunch of annoying endless busy work.
dutytocareforothers 1 year ago 6
@dutytocareforothers hence the point of getting an education in liberal arts. I think it's a good thing that people are required to take a wide variety of courses that will broaden their perspectives.
As for teachers not speaking english...I haven't come across that problem other than in foreign language courses - which is to be expected.
elsamuraiguapo 1 year ago
@elsamuraiguapo "Broaden their perspectives" Sounds alot like "Becoming well-rounded". Which really means "A hustle to take your money" LOL I can broaden my perspectives for free on the internet and at the library.
1XMarksSpot 10 months ago
Graduating from college only proves that you have short-term memorization skills.
Russ0257821 1 year ago 7
You said yourself that any idiot can get a degree. Maybe it's those same idiots who are unemployed after college.
Boehm815 1 year ago
You are better off investing money for college tuition in big companies stocks.
dz1ncha 1 year ago 3
I agree with this. I have two degrees, including a masters and am unemployed 2 years. I am one of the "skilled" ones but no difference. I agree part of the reason is too many people went to college. I attended college with some people who were barely literate, yet I am competiting for jobs with them. The guy I love is a blue collar guy (thought college was worthless) and if we have kids, I am going to convince them to attend trade school.
RadioLaPrincess 1 year ago 2
@RadioLaPrincess
You should have gotten a degree with a license following graduation and experience. Licenses cut down on the number of idiots in the field and provide legal job security. Had you gotten a degree and one of these licenses you would be fine: CPA,RN,CRNA, Nurse practioner, chiropractor, dentist, CFA, CFP, plumbing license...... etc.
Rockynurse 1 year ago
I have a better idea, instead of not going to college, why don't you go to college and get a real degree? People go and get degrees in film, pan-african studies, art and philosophy and complain that they can't get a job....
Well NO SHIT!
Go major in biochemistry, engineering, accounting or use your degree as a stepping stone to go to law school, medical school, dental school, pharmacy school, veterinary school....
Don't major in something stupid and blame the colleges for not finding a job!
toohuman90 1 year ago
@toohuman90
If you major in accounting and get above a 3.3 gpa at a AACSB accredited business school it is more likely than not you will have a staff accountant job offer before graduation.(>50%). Sit for the cpa pass the test and meet the experience requirement and you have a guaranteed 80k a year job for life. (assuming circumstances don't change drastically and you don't commit fraud)
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@Rockynurse That's just wishful thinking. Accountants are becoming more and more useless. Small business owners learn to do their own tax papers and big companies already have accountants. You don't see million dollar companies popping out of nowhere who are willing to pay 80k a year to some cock sucker that knows how to fill out paper forms.
dz1ncha 1 year ago 3
@dz1ncha
Cite me a single source that says the market for CPA's is shrinking......
Small business owners that are organized as a C corp must file annual audited financial statements with the SEC. Legally there is no way around it and CPAs are the only professionals licensed to perform audits.
Accounting is becoming ever more complex with higher taxes and more regulation for C corps. The field of accounting and auditing is predicted to grow much faster than average according the the BLS!
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@Rockynurse Google "monetary system collapse" or "economic collapse. Once it happens, your degree will be rendered useless and you will have 0 practical skills. Accounting = management of non-existent fiat currency that is printed out of thin air.
dz1ncha 1 year ago 3
@dz1ncha
=D When will the USD collapse? What do you do for a living?
Alumni from my university hold some of the most prestigious positions in the finance and accounting industries. It is the responsibility and privilege of the accounting profession to measure performance of companies. The economy will go up and down intermittently but in the long run we will become more efficient and move towards global financial integration!
The USA won't have a crisis like Greece or Portugal!
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@Rockynurse
Do you realize how much accounting sucks? Auditing is the WORST field of accounting. Horrendous hours(55-60+ hrs per week), average pay and you work with a bunch of of antisocial losers with no lives who equally hate their jobs. Who in their right mind would go into accounting?
Rototill27 1 year ago
@Rototill27
I enjoy accounting and no the pay isn't average. My buddy at PWC is 25 and he makes 90k per year. As long as you can handle the hours and you enjoy the work accounting is very lucrative. Especially public accounting!
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@Rockynurse He will get burnt out sooner or later.
dutytocareforothers 1 year ago
@dutytocareforothers
Probably. Then he will step out into private industry and make over 120k as an audit manager. Or he will go to a smaller firm with less hours.
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@Rockynurse This blog is about how college is useless. Please step aside if you do not agree with it. It is clear you have nothing to contribute on this matter. Good bye.
dutytocareforothers 1 year ago 5
@dutytocareforothers
Not all college is useless just most of college is useless. Some majors are so useless it is laughable. In some fields you cannot break into the field without a college education. Such as law, medicine, accounting, financially planning, and many other fields.
I think everyone needs post high school education but we need to have it in the right direction. No more grievance majors like African studies and more technical schools that teach marketable skills.
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@Rockynurse We do need more technical schools that can give you a valuable certificate within one year. The courses should involve intense technical training in a variety of corporate related fields that will be useful for employment. But the pitiful side to all of this "better education" disease is that corporations keep off shoring jobs. It's their sneaky way in making profits. It has been going on for decades. It's nothing new. But it looks like it could get worse.
dutytocareforothers 1 year ago 10
@Rockynurse I overall agree with you. My solution would be for colleges to promote double majors: one degree in a subject of the student's choice, the other degree in a subject which is job-oriented, toward a field in which there is a high projected future demand for jobs (e.g. accounting, finance, etc.).
StealthGoblin1 5 months ago
I totally agree with this video. I start grad school in the fall because it is a personal goal, but I am a military veteran and the military is paying for my schooling, then I may go back into the military. But real world experience is better than college, hands down so I am glad to have a bit of both. Thank you for trying to help others, I know people who are so stressed out for not having a degree but maybe they should see this and relax..
bellasphinxnyc 1 year ago
what idiot would get master might aswell get a phd
locknes2008 1 year ago
most college degrees (the world over) are worthless mainly because there are very few jobs. It is pretty obvious when you have thousands of people applying for 1 available position that a college education is not going to go anywhere near guaranteeing work, especially when you consider that the richest will have been bookmarked for certain top jobs before they are even 12 years old.
I never attended college, but i had it shoved down my throat by careers advisors..telling me i'd be wasting ctd
c64c64c64 1 year ago 3
my life if i didn't. instead I began working for the civil service. Within 2 years I was a planning officer, earning 30 thousand a year (pounds)....dollar wise, it is probably a fair bit more. many of those I know that went to college have still not found work, some 6-7 years after qualifying, but also many have.
The truth as I see it, is that if you are poor, your future is determined by chance, should you decide to follow the life planned by your government. ctd
c64c64c64 1 year ago 2
ctd3, last part> the reality is that if you want to get money, you have to think that you are completely on your own, because you are. You got to find a niche that is untapped, or an individual skill you have you can make money with. Write, take photographs, paint, buy and sell on ebay, amazon, start your own business...
c64c64c64 1 year ago 2
Awesome. I agree! If I get the min wage job, I'll be saving up for trade school. If I had a trade, I would def be able to afford college then. :)
tiecuando 1 year ago
when will stupid people listen by the way my videos have BECOME AMAZING whenever you have time watch em please!!!!!!!!!!!!
DrBakshandeh 1 year ago
this guy is a moron.
metalcricket 1 year ago
LOL! What exactly do you do for a living besides post silly youtube videos? And do you have a college degree? If so, what degree, in what, and from what school???
littlenickyn 1 year ago
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888music 1 year ago
@littlenickyn
My full time job is making silly YouTube videos LOL!!
Dropped out of college with one year to go - engineering degree (member of three academic honor societies at a high-ranked government university)
DontGoToCollege 1 year ago 6
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littlenickyn 1 year ago
@littlenickyn
So......you're an English or business major?
DontGoToCollege 1 year ago 6
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littlenickyn 1 year ago
@littlenickyn
Hey uh, I don't suppose you're trying to make a justification based on the response are you?
SuperBrobot 1 year ago
@SuperBrobot Which response? By asking if he's unemployed? No, I'm just curious.
littlenickyn 1 year ago
@littlenickyn
How hypocritical! You wrote that "Technical schools are jokes "
Yet you are going to TECHNICAL school to study Entertainment TECHNOLOGY .
Just because a university teaches a trade does NOT make it an academic discipline. It's still a trade.
College will often incorporate trades into their curriculum for those who are not suited for academic coursework so that they can feel "educated".
DontGoToCollege 1 year ago 4
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littlenickyn 1 year ago
@littlenickyn
I'm unemployed and homeless just like the 73% of the adult population with no college degree. Fortunately for us the price of aluminum is high and we manage to get by.
DontGoToCollege 1 year ago 11
@DontGoToCollege Hahaha, at least you made me laugh... despite I disagree with most of your views. :)
littlenickyn 1 year ago
@DontGoToCollege
LMAO
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@DontGoToCollege c
simontimon2 1 year ago
@DontGoToCollege I really do like this videos. I'm not going back to college at all. My family still sees going to college as the way out of poverty and remedial jobs but I'm starting to see the truth for what it is.
liberty2011able 8 months ago
forget your degree, employers want 1,000,000,000 years of experience!!!!!!!
DaMostEnigmatic 1 year ago 11
wow this guy is right.
There is alot of idiots like the guy who is speaking. 23k is soo easy to pay off. lmao.
BOWENSblog 2 years ago
He is absolutely right. 99% of college degrees are a waste of time. I have two degrees. I did manage to find a job that uses at least one of my degrees as a prerequisite for employment..but that's it. All I do all day is enter stuff into a computer. The job sucks and I am unhappy everyday. Jobs that require college degrees are boring, lonely, mindless jobs that you will gain no satisfaction from. It's sad to know that you've worked hard for a crappy work life like this. College sucks.
Rototill27 2 years ago 37
Actually, the job market sucks not college.
Your problem is that you are unfulfilled in your job and couldn't find a job not only commensurate with your degrees but that you value and love.
As I have mentioned in other posts, the problem doesn't entirely lie with colleges but with the mainstream job market.
There is an annual disparity between what grads learn and what they earn in the jobs they find.
The problem has always been the job market and its not going away.
MultiSmartass1 2 years ago
Actually, you are wrong here I am afraid. Yes, the job market does suck but there are certain industries that require college education that will never return and others that are just way too flooded to even consider. College does suck. It's just a major brainwashing episode that serves no real purpose. I knew that I was smart before college and most of the stuff that they "teach" you..you can learn from a book at the library. Unless you want to go into healthcare, it's not worth it at all.
Rototill27 2 years ago 10
You are examining college from a subjective, performance based rationale.
This is predictable and quite common but still wrong. 4 year colleges and universities are not set up to teach job skills. You can go to a local trade, tech or business school for that.
Traditional colleges teach subject matter and impart knowledge in such subjects. That's it.
If this were clearly defined, perhaps people won't feel college sucks.
Whether grads get jobs are largely up to them.
MultiSmartass1 2 years ago
@Rototill27 AM WITH YOU A 100 PERCENT. COLLEGE IS NECESSARY REGARDLESS. HOWEVER, IT IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY. I CANT PLAY BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL, BECOME A RAPPER, A PIMP OR OWN A NIGHT CLUB. COLLEGE IS NECESSARY TO AVOID COMPETITION IN THE CORPORATE. IMAGINE CORPORATE JOBS HIRING WITHOUT A DEGREE. THE IMPLICATION IS A MASSIVE COMPETITION; THUS COLLEGE IS NECESSARY TO AVOID THAT COMPETITION.
Charliesonbaahsonsky 9 months ago
You are right about me not being fulfilled with my job. Jobs that require college degrees suck and they are unfulfilled. They eat away at you like cancer. Honestly, the best job that I ever had was when I was in college and working at a gas station. I had lots of friends..I had a job that felt rewarding that people thanked me for. Most college degrees are a ticket to boring, cancerous, thankless jobs. You're better off learning something valuable like a skilled trade.
Rototill27 2 years ago 6
You know, you sound like Kevin Spacey in AMERICAN BEAUTY talking about your gas station job.
I can certainly understand reminiscing about sunnier times in this shit-strewn economy.
College degrees are not really a ticket to anything. That's the mistake many make. A degree is a degree-nothing more.
I don't agree with the credential-mad nature of this society but that has do with employers not colleges. Colleges are happy to oblige and profit.
MultiSmartass1 2 years ago
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@Rototill27
Damn you are bitter!
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@Rototill27
Don't throw out random statistics. Where did you hear 99% are worthless?
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@Rockynurse
are you serious? Where have you been for the past two to 3 years with the economy the way it is? The ONLY degrees that are worth the risk of college now are degrees that will get you into the healthcare industry. BTW accounting sucks and the collapse of the financial system has released a glut of experienced ones onto the market. Not to mention all of the new ppl trying to get into the field.
Rototill27 1 year ago
The college degree, your paying an average $80,000 for something that's worth less than the paper it's printed on.
eugene680 1 year ago
@eugene680
My thoughts exactly. The debt load after college is SO not worth it. You will be strapped with zombie debt + interest for at LEAST 10 years. That's only if you can find a decent job in ur field to pay for the loans.
Rototill27 1 year ago
@Rototill27 How much did you get paid for your sucky job?
1XMarksSpot 10 months ago
@Rototill27 College is necessary regardless.
Charliesonbaahsonsky 9 months ago
The host is playing with fire here. We live in a still-recessionary time with millions of people out of work. Those unemployed run the gamut from college grads to high school grads. He neglects to look at the reality which is that the BA is considered an essential prequisite by many employers. As for the so-called fact that any "semi-literate" person can get a degree, Why don't you have one? You look semi-literate and semi-intelligent to me. Stop misleading people.
MultiSmartass1 2 years ago
I'm "playing with fire".
What an evocative metaphor!
Are you an English major?
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago
No, I have a degree. I'm not a student so therefore I wouldn't "majoring" in anything anymore. Yes, you are playing with fire. We have a crappy economy. Telling people who have the ability and desire to go to college not to would be like telling starving people not to eat rice during a famine and just waste away and die. Your videos are filled with to the brim with illogical and unsupported arguments. If you made salient points, I could concede your arguments but you don't so I won't.
MultiSmartass1 2 years ago
I don't care if a "Bachelor of Arts" is considered an essential prerequisite by many employers.
In most cases it's an expensive waste of time.
Many people get jobs in many companies despite the fact that the Human Resources job description lists a BA as a job requirement.
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago
That is the problem with you-you dont care. Employers care, companies care and people care which is why they have spent the time and money going to college to get the degrees they either want or need. You lack the logic and comprehension to understand that the work world has changed. If you want blame someone, blame companies and corporations not students and their parents. Otherwise, you are not only drinking your own drug-laced Koolaid but eating those special brownies. Party on dude!
MultiSmartass1 2 years ago
I'm not the one drinking the college Kool-Aid!
The world has changed. Getting deep into debt for a college degree may have been good advice a generation or two ago. But it's an extremely risky thing to do now.
Your are the one who is religiously following Industrial Age paradigms in the Information Age.
The post World War II boom is over!
Wake up! Party's over.
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago 25
The only risk is because colleges and universities boost their tuition and fees over the years.
Again, you want to bash colleges but you want to blame students and parents for costs that they have no control over.
I follow post-industrial age paradigms that state you need both college and other forms of learning to have an education. Learning doesn't end after you get a degree.
The postwar boom may be long over but the importance and centrality of the BA or BS degree remains.
MultiSmartass1 2 years ago
@DontGoToCollege Great point! I think it became worthless in the late 70s when our manufacturing base moved over seas.
mjpitche 9 months ago
The Guy in this video Is Telling the truth Dude. My Cousin who didn't even graduate from High School lives Out of state and has a Well paying job. So did My other Cousin & My best friend. No HSD what so ever, and Makes more money than me, A person with a HSD. I'm trying to find free Colleges In Michigan, Or somewhere Near Detroit
1000gohead 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Actually, the guy in the video is not telling the truth, dude.
He insists on blaming students and parents for student debt which is total and utter bullshit. Colleges and universities raise tuition and fees all the time.
The comparison you are making is irrelevent to the discussion. You are comparing yourself ( a HSG) to your cousin (a HSD). That has nothing to do with whether degrees are worth having or not.
I certainly wish you well in finding a college that's right for you.
MultiSmartass1 2 years ago
glad to you back making vids hope you have more coming out soon
maskman07 2 years ago
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it.
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago
If you had a free ride through college, would you take it??
mikey9826 2 years ago
I wouldn't. I think I've had enough college for one lifetime.
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago
I think that most people who support these ideas do not have a degree and in all reality, feel inferior to those with a degree. This is why they make videos like this. Also, some colleges teach students to look down on people that are less fortunate and for this reason I do not blame you.
mikey9826 2 years ago
I agree - some people are made to feel inferior because of the lack of college and I hate that. Actually, I'm a member of three academic honor societies and was an engineering major.
Engineering majors are taught to look down on most other majors. (This part of me resurfaces when some English major calls me "uneducated"!)
However, there are a lot of people WITH college degrees who are facing reality when that good-paying job they were promised didn't happen and they are deep in debt.
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago 3
@DontGoToCollege
Good point but lets think about the work Dale Carnegie and the lessions he wanted us to learn. People skills. If you get layed off because the corporation is cutting expenses you will find another job or already have one lined up if you are that good with people. May not be a good idea to discourage people from seeking education after giving this thought.
mikey9826 2 years ago
Mikey,
I am all for education. Education that is practical and teaches you something that you can really use to succeed.
I agree people skills are valuable. I enjoy studying courses about people skills such as Carnegie's material.
What I am against is people spending time and money in college learning things of no practical value.
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago 4
The biggest obstacle to defeat college hoax is none other than our parents. They are totally brainwashed by the government to accept the college education as only way to survive. So whenever someone exposes the dark truth behind the colleges, parents accuse him or her as some kind of psychopaths.
wonc 2 years ago 3
I'd have to agree with that...grandparents too. I was indirectly accused of temporary insanity because I got tired of college.
If parents want their kids to go to college, they need to put their money where their mouth is and pay for every penny of it.
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago 4
I think it may be useful to point out that State subsidy has largely fueled the % of college student increase, which of course, lowers the quality of education in that it is no longer being taught to the brightest student but more toward the average student. Either way, the blame falls onto the State for perverting the equilibrium supply of college education...and the demand.
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago 2
Excellent point. The constant government school brainwashing that says only college graduates can make a decent living also perverts the equilibrium of supply and demand.
DontGoToCollege 2 years ago 4
Bailout money from taxpayers, should ought to go to college graduates :)
dan020350 2 years ago 4
I got my BS degree back in 2003. Since then, I've either been unemployed or underemployed. I'm currently unemployed again after getting laid off from my dead end job, while my non-degree holding coworkers got to keep their job because of office politics.
lipserviceme 2 years ago 3
@lipserviceme Employers think that degree holders have an easier time finding jobs so they are easily layed off. While people without degrees are not. At least that's what I think.
stillirize187 9 months ago
Finally, an article talking about the remedial students going to college. When I went to school I competed with some of them and it was embarassing. They should have gone to trade schools instead. Now we are competiting for the same jobs.
Colleges have one purpose: to make more money off students. I have a MA degree and it has HURT me get jobs, because it makes me "overqualified". If I knew what I know now, I would have gotten into an useful field, NOT communications and marketing.
RadioLaPrincess 2 years ago 3
Thats why I dropped out of College.
Anonomys246 2 years ago
i agree with you except about the master's degree, in certain specific fields it is more valuable to go right for a master's or a specialized degree like a law degree or medical school.
i am an economics major and i wont really be qualified to work for federal institutions until i get my MBA.
i chose economics as my major because it is broad, while still focused within the business field. i do expect to make 40K + a year, but that is not solely because of my degree, i believe
ekjohnson9 2 years ago
@ekjohnson9 that agood interview can hold just as much weight as a degree
ekjohnson9 2 years ago 2
I know a lot of folks with MBA's who can't get jobs or who are under employed (taking up jobs for which they are underpaid). I know someone who is the boss over people with MBA's who went to work right out of high school in his industry.
callouschristian 2 years ago 4
@callouschristian
i believe u, but its my experience (with my relatives and whatnot) that the people who are motivated will find a good job, no matter what their education level is, my reasoning for going to college is that later in life i may be looking for a job and having a degree will help, i dont want to end up in my father's situation having to manage a store after getting laid off of a much higher paying position and having no degree but 30+ years exp in bussiness.
ekjohnson9 2 years ago
My girlfriend works at Goldman and tells me that those with english and history degrees generations ago could get on the street. Now they only want math and engineering based degrees (or personal connections). The market only respects relevant objectively graded (math etc) majors. What 18 year old's poem really worth an A?
jeremyrose 2 years ago