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  • @SuperBebegun

    You show me any one within the Catholic church that teaches a statue is God? It is not in the catechism nor in any writings. You shall not make for yourself a graven image~ an image created to be worshipped as a god. God didn't forbid the religious use of statues, commanded it, John 5:39,Ex. 25:18,20,1 Chr. 28:18–19. David’s plan for the temple, which the biblical author tells us was "by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all," included statues. Ezekiel 41:17–18

  • @icimblind no one worshipped or prayed to those statues you do you want me to show catholics worshiping satues ok go to the catholic church and youll see idols. Why did john paul the 2nd acted like God saying that he is Jesus its people like that whos false.

  • @SuperBebegun

    We pray to the person not the statue just like they did in the Old Test..When ever 2 or more are gathered in my name there I shall be & pray for one another. I proved you wrong with verses from the bible that God did command making of statues but you are so pig headed you still claim we do something we clearly do not.There is no truth in you when you spread this lie.It is from the devil. You didn't even know that Catholics created the first bible & translated it 2 many languages.

  • @SuperBebegun are you looking at ur mom's photo when you miss her? Does the photo reminds you of you mom or loved ones? These statues are not idols, these statues remind us that there is GOD and there are theses people who spread God's words to save our souls. We go not worship them at all.

  • People listen this is a warning if you continue to worship idols and ask Mary whos only a women for powers your going the wrong path, wanna know why john paul the 2nd is in hell watch 23 hours dead.<<<< watch it

  • @SuperBebegun No idolatry in the Catholic Church. Read Eph 5:5 and Col 3:5 and make sure you are not committing that kind of idolatry yourself. The scriptures in the bible are to be read IN CONTEXT.

  • @SuperBebegun

    "know why john paul the 2nd is in hell"

    Dude, you sound like you believe you are wise and learned concerning scripture. Do you think a wise man would make a statement of certainty concerning who is in hell and who is not?

    are you a wise and intelligent man concerning scripture and the Catholic Churhch and hell?

  • For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."...Mathew 12:50

  • @SuperBebegun

    No one is worshiping Mary, stop all that protestant non-sense. You worship the bible as if it is the final authority on all matters of faith and morals.And yet the bible wasn't around when Jesus started His Church and gave His authority to 12 men, one of which who inherited the chair of Moses.It is this apostolic succession that gave you your bible, not some heretic, the pope and the Catholic church.Learn your history and stop lying.You will be held accountable for what you say!

  • @icimblind stop praying to idols

  • @SuperBebegun

    Exodus 20:16 You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. All liars go to hell. Stop lying, you worship the beast when you do that.

    The bible came from the Catholics, dude. I don't know maybe you are just ignorant on what idol worship is, can you tell me what you think it is and how it applies to Catholics?

    What I get tired of you know better but like a broken record you parrot the same old filthy lies you got off of some anti-Catholic site.

  • @icimblind your worshiping idols and telling me that im going to Hell dude your lost..the Bible came from God mate do your research before preaching me lies about Mary. and your the ones whos going to be condemned because it seems to me like you like Mary more than Jesus or God. Exodus 20:1-15 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath common scene mate

  • @SuperBebegun

    The bible was compiled by the Catholic church. We created it, and decided what would and wouldn't go in it. Google it. Catholic Christians were the only Christians during that time. Please don't argue this, do your research, and stop spreading your anti-Catholic bigotry. You are worshiping the devil if you continue to spread false witness of what we don't do. Please study what we teach, and not what someone else thinks we teach.

  • @icimblind How am i worshipping the Devil? see you make no sense even when you insult me. we worship the same God, its kindda funny when i speak the truth you easily get angered humm ... see how demons easly get into you when it knows that the Christians speak the truth.. i can easly prove you wrong and easily anger you its just a sing that im right your wrong.. peace be with you i hope you Catholics stop praying to Mary, and only Jesus our lord and saviour.

  • @SuperBebegun...Why don't you drop by my channel? I'm showcasing a video called "Jewish Roots of Catholicism Part 2". The Jewish convert to Catholicism will show you how the Catholic doctrine of Communion of Saints is NOT the same as "praying to idols". It actually came from J-U-D-A-I-S-M...you know...the faith Christ was raised in. Please, be my guest.  Give it a shot if your thirst for truth is greater than your pride.

  • @energylots

    i would love to bash catholicism but the reality is that post 1962 the roman catholic church is nothing more than a masonic socialist cult with only a thin connection to its past.

    pretty damn sad if u ask me

  • This is something I can never agree with: you have to be in one given religion to be "saved". Almost all the religions push this idea and the Catholics seem to be doing it too. News flash! God doesn't care what political party you belong to, whether you're black, white and he doesn't care what religion you belong to. God doesn't care if you "convert" to a particular religion.

  • @eric5906

    "Almost all the religions push this idea and the Catholics seem to be doing it too."

    Are you aware that the Catechism tells us that even Muslims can be saved? Perhaps you are referring to individual Catholics and not the Catholic Church.

    "God doesn't care if you "convert" to a particular religion."

    How exactly do you know what God cares about and doesn't care about?

  • Stop worshiping Mary!! She is not God she is crying in heaven right because people are too blind to know that it's Jesus who should be worship she has no powers !! Watch 23 hours dead

  • @SuperBebegun - Worshipping Mary was considered a heresy and outlawed by the Catholic Church in the 4th century. Know your history before you open your mouth.

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday your telling me about history your history you claim is fake because many Catholics are in Hell because of idol worship. You dont worship mary you worship Jesus who DIED FOR OUR SINS!! WHO HAD POWERS AND PREFORMED MIRACLES! God was pleased with Mary thats why he choose her to have Jesus thats all.

  • @SuperBebegun - You're not making sense.

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday i do your just not listening

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday Worship the lord not mary

  • @SuperBebegun - No Catholic worhsips Mary.

    Please watch at 6 minutes 30 seconds

    watch?v=MymwcnQrO0c

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    your kinda boycoting me now??

  • @princemeeei - I've given you a lot to chew on. It's up to you now.

    All the best

  • @SuperBebegun what an idiot

    Catholicism condemn the worshiping of Mary , that was a heresy in the 4th century .we honer Mary because she is our Mother ,and we bless her because she said so ,

    all the titles of Mary comes from the understanding of who Christ is .

    I hate it , when people speak with ignorant , first muslims and now you

  • @newtochrist lol you call yourself a child of God and then you insult me....Mary isn't your mother shes just a women.

  • @SuperBebegun well , biblical speaking , Mary is not only a Woman , even protestant scholars like Baptist Greek scholar A. T. Robertson said "Highly favoured" (kecharitomene). Perfect passive

    participle of charitoo and means endowed with grace

    (charis), enriched with grace as in Ephesians. 1:6, . . . The

    Vulgate gratiae plena "is right, if it means 'full of grace

    which thou hast received' ''

    So she is FULL of GRACE and yes I am a child of God and I should rebuke False teachers

  • @SuperBebegun

    "Mary isn't your mother shes just a women."

    God the Father is our Father and Jesus is his Son. Mary is his Mother and likewise she is our Mother. Perhaps you think Catholics refer to her as our biological mother. If not, then please explain how Mary is not our Mother. While you are at it, please explain how Jesus is not our Brother; since you say Mary is not our Mother.

  • @MrChristianBeliever dude stop worshiping to idols statues it clearly states that in the Bible

  • @SuperBebegun...Dude, stop distorting and destroying The Bible's context. It clearly states so in 2 Peter 3:16.

  • @SuperBebegun

    dude, i don't worship idols and statues. stop telling people that you can read their minds and know what is in their hearts because you don't know and you definately cannot read minds.

  • pity that i do not even know who they are? Accept Lina Joy coz she's a Malaysian... hehe.. such a pity.. anywhere you can find stupid people doing stupid things... hehe.. I even can tell you that people do eat monkey's brain and you can compile 100 people eating monkey's brain, but they are like i say, NOBODY influential...

  • Islam is fake religion , the quran stole from fabrication books(infancy gospels, Talmud , ..etc) , after studying the Catholic tradition I come to know how fake the Islamic religion is

  • @newtochrist Exactly. Ask any Muslim where Muslims prayed before Mohammed. Many Arabs were Christians and prayed in churches that Jesus was the Lord. They were forced into Islam. Islam mixed Judaism with Christianity. Of those Christians that didn't convert to Islam, why aren't they proclaiming another prophet will come to this earth? Muslims say the Bible never said that Jesus was son of God. But what Christian sect believes Jesus was not son of God today or previously?

  • @newtochrist

    hehe.. it should be the opposite.. did you go to school? haha..

  • @MrAmkay9793 yeah , if you want to know more about how fake is the quran just tell me and I will show you , I can't believe more than 1 billion muslim are following a lie for 1400 , but it's the 21st century , even the legends of Christianity such as the seven sleepers muhammed stole it and change it to (ahl al kahaf)

  • @newtochrist

    look you christians are the fools we muslims follow one book which has NEVER been changed.where as you have like a million versions of the bible.not one is identical u have people not god but people adding stuff to the bible then deleting it in their revised standard version.such as the verse regarding the trinity in the 1st epistle of jhon 5:7 but it was taken out by christian scholars as they new it was a fornication fabrication.stupid book that was influenced by man

  • @princemeeei this is nice tactic to run away , but hey , you didn't answer me , how can a book stealing from fake books consider to be holy ?many of the quran is lost , this is not me saying , it's al sayoti Narrated Aeisha:” the Confederates chapter (Surat Al-Ahzab) was recited during the time of the prophet up to two hundred verses, then when Othman wrote the quran, we didn't find except 73 verses

    so yes the quran is changed

  • @newtochrist

    look mate i dont run away from anyone..why should i??...how about you do me a favour...go to a mosque in new york..pick up a quran then go to another country like egypt even the UK if you want....and get a quran from there...then compare the two...and i will guarantee you that they will both be word for word IDENTICAL..try the same with a bible...get your bible and compare it to your neigbour's and see how much they differ...

  • @princemeeei you are running away , I refute your non- changeable quran , from the sahaba(friends of mohammed) as for the different versions

    do you know the different readings in the Arabic quran ? the reading of warsh an nafa different than the reading of hafs an assem

    in 2:285 the arabic hafs an assem it's read like this ' believed in Allah and His angels and His books'

    however in warsh the reading in arabic should be 'book' not books

    this is big change which hurt your faith statment

  • @newtochrist

    look you stupid individual...there are different terms arabic for the same thing in different regions...like in english....i have a quran in my house that is over 40 years and i have another that is only about 2 years old...there is no difference between them.....

    .you fail....so try again...because all your agrgments suck!!!

  • @princemeeei :D , it's look like you don't read ARABIC I told you hafs an assem reads it book(s) and warsh reads it book the word in arabic is كتبه because it was written in the old forrm of arabic , it can be read books كتبه or book كتابه north african muslims read it (BOOK) saudi muslims read it (Books) sinse there is more than one type of reading I feel sorry for you , because you are running like a girl to the bible , because you can't defend the fake book called Quran :D
  • @newtochrist

    did you even read my last comment?? its exactly what you said...different terms in different regions.you seriously are worthless

  • @newtochrist

    i havent yet seen you defend the bible...you read my comments answer them then...lets see how true the bible is

  • @princemeeei - I don't blame you for not being aware of the fake Gospels in Christianity as many Christians themselves are not aware of them.

    However you're still faced with the problem how did these made up stories from bogus Gospels and other books end up in the Quran.

    Be grateful to newtochrist that he is taking the time to make you aware of this fact.

    Think about it - if Islam was a lie wouldn't you want to know?

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    look muslims believe in the ORIGINAL injeel, ORIGINAL torah ORIGINAL zaboor...but these book were not maintained in their original form...so yes there are possibilities that i accept that certain passages from these scriptures are in the bible..but look at the bible man..it has the book of paul mathew luke mark. but no book of jesus strange dont you think?

    AND YOU SAID THE FAKE GOSPELS ARE IN THE QURAN, WELL COME ON SHOW ME WHERE IN THE QURAN ARE THEY

  • @princemeeei - NewToChrist already mentioned the infancy Gospel where Jesus is supposed to have breathed life into clay birds. This story was made up yet it has ended up in the Quran.

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    im not disagreeing with you... you just give me the refference and ill get back to you

  • @princemeeei - Sura 3:49 and Google Infancy Gospel of Thomas for loads of wacky stories about Jesus.

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    i checked it out it was correct...read my previous comment where i stated that certain passages of ORIGINAL scriptures before the quran are in the quran..

  • @princemeeei - Well what do you mean by 'original'?

    Do you mean 'original fakes' because that's what they were and I'm afraid to say that is a cold hard fact.

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    lthe bible today is corrupted it has many contradictions, so if god is all knowing then the bible should have none..are you an athiest??

  • @princemeeei - Ok you're straying off topic. Let's deal with one topic at a time.

    Now it has been established that Christian myths and fables were recited by Muhammad into the Quran.

    Now do you remember in the Quran there is a verse where the pagans at the time accussed Muhammad of just retelling the old stories. Knowing now that the Quran contains these fake stories has it crossed your mind that those pagans around Muhammad at the time were right?

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    at least tell me what religion you follow if any so i am atleast aware look i dont know how many ways to say this...there are some beliefs of the christianity that i myself believe, such as the miraculas birth f Prophet jesus (pbuh) so yes the pagons agreed that what prophet muhammad (pbuh) was saying was true.(to a certain extent i.e. like the "old stories" you mentioned) but did they follow? answer me this what was the BASIC message of all prophets?

  • @princemeeei - I am a Christian who follows the Catholic tradition. Believing some Christian truths does not make your false religion Islam true. If your religion contains even 1% falsehood then it is all false is it not.

    Mormonism has some Christian truths in their religion but the fact that they believe that Shaytan and Jesus are brothers makes it an utterly false religion wouldn't you agree?

    Islam and Mormonism are in many ways identical and they are both false.

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    care to explain how they are identical??

  • @princemeeei - In many, many ways. Just a couple of examples. Both were founded by polygamous, adulterous men who brought books based on inspiration and nothing else.

    watch?v=pFAx0el9s_o

  • @princemeeei - Mormons claim their Book of Mormon exists on original tablets in heaven. Muslims claim the Quran existed in heaven before the universe was even created.

    Mormons claim their book is perfect with no errors.

    Muslims claim their book is perfect with no errors.

    Mormons primarily use two books, the Book of Mormon and the book of Doctrines and Covenants.

    Muslims primarily use two books the Quran and the Sunnah.

    There are many, many more.

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    read your comment again...the only similarity is that both believe their book is perfect with no errors...im mean every religion believes that their scripture is perfect im mean dont you??? if you dont you have a serious problem on your nd.. plus i dont blame you because the bible can be proven wrong on a scientific basis easily where as the quran cant...try it yourself if you want!!

  • @princemeeei - You need to understand what people understand by Bible inerrancy. The Bible is made up of many books, some poetry, some stories with moral truths, letters, reports.

  • @princemeeei - The science in the quran is just wrong. Try these channels TheRationalizer, TheIslamMiracle.

    That's all for tonight.

    All the best

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    forget the channel..you invest in a quran and and see for yourself how "wrong" the science is in the quran...

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    if you want i can expose to you hw WRONG the science in the bible is!!

  • @ADayWithoutYesterday

    contd:

    the sunnah is the sayings of the prophet Muhammed (pbuh)..two different things...look at you man you use the OLD and NEW testaments...isnt that considered as two different texts??..islam is the bravest religion of all..it is the only religion in the world that challanges mankind to prove it wrong using falsification tests..does the catholic faith do this?? NO it doesnt...shows how confident it is??

  • @princemeeei - Mormons believe that all human beings pre-existed and as such deep down know the spiritual truth of Mormonism only that there is a veil over their eyes and hearts.

    Muslims believe all human beings were born Muslim but were lead astray by their parents. Those who don't accept Islam are said to have permanent seal or veil on their hearts.

    Mormons believe all the earlier prophets were in fact Mormon.

    Muslims believe all the earlier prophets were in fact Muslim.

  • @princemeeei - Mormons believe the Bible has been corrupted by the early Christians in order to hide the coming of their propeht Joseph Smith.

    Muslims believe that the Jews corrupted their own scriptures 1000 years before Muhammad was even born in order to hide the arrival of Muhammad.

    There are many more. Do you want them too?

  • @princemeeei - The Infancy Gospel of Thomas is to Jesus as all those bogus hadith is to Muhammad.

  • @princemeeei so let's summarize what just happen ,

    1- I exposed quran that it stole stories from fabrication book (you didn't answer one of those and run to the bible)

    2- you said the quran is not change I showed you from your sources that much of the quran is lost so I exposed your lies (you didn't even bother to refute it because it showed how lair you are)

    3- you said there is no different in the modern quran yet I showed you there are , and some of them change the whole faith statement

  • @princemeeei it's clear that you can't answer and defend your fake book ,the only way to do it , is to go to the bible hahaha what a nice tactic , but it's obvious you will do that because you know that the Quran is a fake book

    you are like :- the only way to prove the quran is true is by attacking the bible hahah funny guy

    what a chicken

  • @newtochrist

    im the chiken? geeza you have not answered one of my questions all your doing is playing a childish game.try answering mine and see how hard you fail....what you cant handle is the fact that islam is the true religion and you know that christianity is completley false. you want to prove that isam is false? then go ahead the quran says

    surah 4:82 "do they not consider the quran carefully? had it been from other than Allah, they would have found init many contradictions"

  • @newtochrist

    there are many other falsification tests in the quran..one other example is that it challenges the whole of mankind to come together and produce one verse like that of the quran and the quran guarntees no one can do this...you tell me which other religous scripture on earth has a falsification test?? for example the bible? the torah? veda? etc..none do so shut your mouth and do some homework..then get back to me you idiot

  • @princemeeei hahaha , you use quran to justify the quran !! what circle reasoning , you are really old school , I am telling you the quran in itself stole fabrication stories !what a joke

  • @newtochrist

    first you cry and beg me not to use the bible now your begging me not to use the quran?? forget this..see you in the afterlife then ill ask you who was correct!!

  • @princemeeei I'll pray for your soul

    may the Lord have Mercy on you

  • @newtochrist

    no disrespect or anything but your prayers will be of no use...as you worship a CREATION where as i worship the CREATOR

  • @princemeeei Narrated Omer: no one says that I took the whole quran, you never know what the whole

    quran means,” Actually big parts of the quran had gone

    “The perfection in the quran's sciences” by Jalal Al-Din Al-Syouty

  • @newtochrist

    did you even answer me??? shut up man your one of them that only expects to be answered but isnt brave enough to answer any questions...hypocrite...

  • @princemeeei you are the one who couldn't defend your quran and running to the bible

    Fake Religion , quite it like I did don't waste your time in a LIE

    God bless

  • @newtochrist

    you dont even make any sense!! what do you mean defend the quran?? geeza you couldnt even back your statements up with actuall evidence you only go on what some idiots say...and if you wanna have a scientifical debate to prove which religion is true and which is false then come on then... ill expose to you how stupid your christian faith is with refferences from the bible...i deal with facts not with personal opinions..

  • @energylots wat do u mean..i donn get it..

  • @MyBazy With the greatest respect Sir, what I am saying is that Jesus never had multiple wives, Jesus never married someone that was significantly younger then he was. Jesus never went to war and took slaves. Jesus never tried to marry the non-Muslim woman of the man he had just killed. Many Muslims globally justify paedophilia, rape of non-Muslim women and polygamy - based on Mohammed's actions. If a Christian wants to do such things, he can't look for justification from Jesus' life.

  • @energylots The only pedophiles i know from the news media are catholic priests and evangelist pastors.

  • @zatoichiable Were they prosecuted. Can a 80 year old man marry a 14 year old in Saudi Arabia, Iran or Afghanistan? Three of the most Islamic countries in the world.

  • @energylots start criticising your divorce problem in the West before you satrt teaching about marriage institution.

  • @zatoichiable

    forget him bro...i had to send him a PM because it wont allow me to send him a message on here..he'l come back with more crap...but lets see what lol

  • @MyBazy With the greatest respect, with an open and critical thinking mind - I could never ever imagine God would send a 'prophet' to this earth so he could have a child marriage, attack a Jewish tribe and then force these women into relationships with the murderers of their husbands and would justify a promiscuous lifestyle of polygamy.

    I can accept you think I am wrong, but I am prepared to take that risk - because like I said why would God want such things on this earth?

  • "n (rmmber) when Allah said:O Jesus the son of Mary,did u say to people:'Take me n my mother as gods besides Allah?'.He(isa) said:it should b 4 me to say smthing that no right (to say).If I say so,then surely u knw.u knw wht is in me n I dont knw wht is in thmselves (substance)u.u r the Knower of all that is hidden.(Surah Al-Maidah: 116)

  • @MyBazy this verse prove that allah have no idea about the christian trinity , what a fake religion

    mary in christianity is god !!! what the hell Muhammad was thinking about , clear misrepresenting of our faith

  • "I Isa[Jesus]never said 2 them except what u(Allah) commanded me, that is: 'Worship Allah,my Lord n ur Lord,n I bear witness against them,as long as I live wit them,When u 'mewafatkanku'(take his(Isa) life),u watch them.n u witnesses ovr all things (Surah Al-Maidah:117)

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  • @MyBazy Where did Muslims pray before Mohammed and Mosques?

  • @MyBazy "You are the Messiah, the Son of the Living God" said Peter, to which Jesus said "My Father has revealed this to you, and so you are Peter (rock), and on this Rock I shall build my Church and the gates of Hells shall not prevail." If Jesus weren't God, surely he would have told Peter he was wrong.

  • @MyBazy Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet was without sin.Hebrews 4:15 .....""""has been tempted in every way, just as we are""... .

  • From one false religion to another....

  • @schonda06 I used to think Catholicism was a false religion. I converted to Catholicism after being non-denominational Christian. You might want to see the conversion of Dr. Scott Hahn or Peter Kreeft.

  • @megaead69

    Hello. Thanks for the info. However, I've been a Christian all my life and through the guidance of the holy spirit, Bible scriptures and my research, I have to say that it is beyond the shadow of a doubt that Catholicism is a false religion.

    I do admit that there are many well-intentioned Catholics who are simply deceived by the false teachings of the RCC.

    I hope you will turn away from this abomination of God and accept Jesus as the Lord your only Savior one day (again).

  • If you read the first chapter of Galatians in the Bible you will see how St. Paul prophesised how and "angel" would come to lead others astray. This was written over 600 years before muhammed saw his "angel" that proclaimed "another gospel". Islam is a false religion leading others away from God.

  • @PZMedic Yeah you read that!

    Ive been telling that to Muslims as well.

  • ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.’ John 3:3

  • Bless Catholicism! In fact bless any Christian denomination! Also bless any non-Muslims that oppose paedophilia, polygamy, honour killings, slave trade or rape!

  • @energylots

    well you enjoy the 10 cases of incest in your contradictory bible...and paedophillia??? the heck are you on about

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  • @princemeeei What about Aisha? Many Muslims believe she was 6 years old.

    Is this story used to justify child marriages in Muslim countries? Why do 80 year old men in Saudi Arabia marry 15 year old girls?

    Even if Mohammed never married Aisha, what do you think about the concept of marrying the person that had just killed your own husband? Could you also convert to that man's faith? Would you accept that? Is it ethical or morally justifiable?

  • @princemeeei Sura 9:5 is worse than that, better than going to hell in Sura 19:71. As well as contradicting the "Let there be no compulsion" rule by threatening Muslims with a death penalty if they change their religion. Plus your Prophet Muhammed married Aisha, a 6 year old girl girl that still played with dolls. In fact, why is Islam the only religion in the world starting all the conflicts and wars in the world? Pretty sad really.

  • @mathsprofessional

    well read sura 9:6 its a direct reply to the 5th verse. it says "if any of the mushrikeen (polythiest, pagan, disbeliever) seeks your protecttion then grant him protection, so he may hear the word of Allah (the quran), then escort him where he can be secure, because they are men who now not"

    this bit is about when you see a mushrikeen in the battlefield...not in genral everyday life...learn to read in context..

  • @princemeeei Yeah but bro, just leave them alone, there's no need to intervene in their business. That means you throw them in jail and forcibly convert them into Islam. This contradicts the "Let there be no compulsion in religion" verse. Otherwise disbelievers are pressured to convert into Islam by paying a yearly tax under Sharia Law called the Jizya. What if the West applied this tax system only on Muslims. How would you feel?

  • @mathsprofessional

    this so called "jizya" your on about...look it was muslims who came up with that...ISLAM on ther other hand doesnt force or even ask non-believers to pay tax towards islam...look is there was compulsion in islam...there would not be a single non-muslim in sapin as muslims ruled sapin for 800 years, muslims ruled India for many hundered years also, if there was compulsion why is there more non muslims in india today than there are muslims???

  • @mathsprofessional

    contd:

    muslims also ruled Egypt for most of its existance and there are still over 10million christians living there...come one again if there was any compulsion why are there still non-muslims in a nation ruled by muslims???

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  • @princemeeei If there was no compulsion in religion, you wouldn't still be trying to persuade me back into Islam.

  • @mathsprofessional

    all im doing is trying to get id of your misconceptions ISLAM...because your getting mixed up between the teachings of islam and the practices of muslims, as these are two different things, for example islam says your not allow you to self harm, but if you see a muslim self harmingl it doesnt mean that islam teaches this do you understand what im trying to say??....

  • @mathsprofessional

    its your own choice what you do with the message, i believe that islam is the one and only true religion, you said you have read the qur'an so you know yourself what is in store for believers and disbelievers in the afterlife.you can either choose to accept islam again or simply reject it.and am i forcing you to revert back? the answer is no, my job is to simply deliver the message and you can do what ever you will, if you any more question, then please ask

  • @princemeeei The Apostasy sentence is also a contradiction alongside the Sura and Hadith passages, I was a Sunni Quranist, I rejected those verse because it was a direct confliction with many of Muhammeds self-explained verses. But believing only in the Quran still didn't make the religion clearer. Why are we killing Allah's creations? I don't understand. Why did Allah make human beings with all sorts of beliefs and allow his belief to kill his own creation of other beliefs.

  • @princemeeei Did Jesus participate in paedophilia, or did Mohammed? You have to remember Jesus is the central figure in Christianity like Mohammed is the central figure in Islam. Why is paedophilia outlawed in Christian countries but in the country of Mecca, it is allowed?

  • @energylots

    in the coountry of mecca??? you lost geeza?? its makkah which is a city...the country's name is saudi arabia....you know what prove it to me that saudi arabia allows paedophillia.....show me an actual goverment legislation that states this.and prove it to me that islam allows it from the quran...you do this then ill believe you....

  • @princemeeei What about Aisha, was she not 6 years old?

    Search for this article on google "Why is no one protecting Saudi Arabia's child brides?" It is written by a Muslim.

  • @energylots You're saying these things because you feel threatened by Islam - its just ignorance on your part. If what you're saying was true then Islam wouldn't have so many new converts especially women.

  • Why not address my remarks? Why not debate me? If I am wrong, show me the facts. What can I do if Mohammed did these things, and they are referenced in the Koran?

    You talk about converts to Islam, how is it even fair to suggest Islam is the biggest religion in the world, when even the 'moderate' countries of the 50+ Muslim nations, don't allow freedom of religion.

    If one is comfortable in their beliefs, why threaten the one that wishes to have a different belief?

  • @kazakhseven There's no need for me to show animosity towards you, I am simply engaging in a discussion.

    I would love to see you answer this question:

    What do you think about the concept of marrying the person that had just killed your own husband? Could you also convert to that man's faith? Would you accept that? Is it ethical or morally justifiable?

  • @energylots

    yesssirr

    in case these muslims dont know about pedophilia, slave trade or genocide.. the catholics will happily demonstrate

  • @Cossackstride Because Jesus had a 9 year old wife like Mohammed? Because slavery is sanctified in the Bible like in the Koran? Because Jesus took Jewish women as slaves like Mohammed took Jewish women as slaves? Because Christians that commit paedophilia justify it with the stories of Jesus life just like the Muslims in Saudi Arabia justify their child marriages on the hadiths?

  • @Cossackstride And are those Catholics prosecuted for their actions? Are men in Saudi Arabia - the home of Mecca - allowed to marry children?

  • @energylots

    also did you know in america...the state law in texas allows any individual of the age of 14 to get married so if a man of 90 years of age married a 14 year old girl would you consider this to be paedophillia or is acceptable?? answer me this...

  • @princemeeei Give me a case where a 90 year old man has married a 14 year old. The age of sexual consent in Texas is 17 years old.

  • @energylots We are in the 21st century and you still think like slaves. Go and read something useful than watching lady gaga and american idol and big brother. You are dumb and an embarrasement to christians.

  • @zatoichiable Ad hominem?

    Why personally attack me? If I am so wrong, engage in a meaningful debate with me. Don't fear me, I only have my mind and my words. If you are completely comfortable in your views then you would not worry about my questions or criticism. I can only think you engage in personal attacks because you have doubts about your faith, and you are coming to terms with that.

  • @energylots Doubt about my faith? Hmmmm, Let me see. I am perfectly comfortable praying to God that is eternal and does not die and you want me to pray to god who dies and cannot even help himself. Right?

  • @zatoichiable In what institution did Jesus pray in?

  • @energylots stop mumbling and talk straight. Jesus did not say he is God. Why are you christians always changing the words and confuse yourselves? No wonder you have, God knows, so many versions of the bibles and each claiming to be right Give it up! and stop fooling yourselves. Islam is here to correct your stupidity!!

  • @zatoichiable Where did Jesus pray though?

  • @zatoichiable "Islam is here to correct your stupidity!!" <-- Why do you have to use such insults? You mustn't be comfortable if you insult the one that asks questions or criticises.

  • La ilahaila Allah, Muhammadar Rasulullah..(There no God, except Allah, Prophet Muhammad is His messenger)

  • @temami70

    Allah is the moon god! God is God not Allah!

  • why father god dont save his son from jews?????????? lame god???????

  • we muslim love and believe in JESUS more more more than you christian, JESUS will enter de highest heaven and his "followers" will burn in hell 4 ever, MUHAMMAD will enter de highest heaven and his true followers also will enter heaven.

  • @bfkssj really?think again..

  • @bfkssj

    But Muslims believe in the false prophet Muhammad. He deny Jesus as son of God as foretold by Jesus. He is the antichrist. Beside he is a pedophile, robber, murderer you name it he did it. 1.5 billion must be dumb to follow Muhammad.

  • @bfkssj1433 yrs n muslim still pray 4 muhamad to enter d highest heaven..if he still no way 2 b found ,how can his followers be..ask yrself this question again n again..

  • @bfkssj You have been MISLED by Satan.Your Koran is highly corrupted and misleading book which lead people to eternal hell fire.

  • @bfkssj Where did Jesus pray?

  • Christian, Muslim, Jew, Sikh: all believe in one God and an afterlife. Otherwise, we are identical as creatures of God. We were set at war during the Crusades when the Church was hijacked for evil. Organized religion is but a Corporation left over when all you had to sell was "the afterlife"..back when people died young.. before medicine, etc. America has been hijacked by your Forces of Borgia (Jesuits best I can tell) and you all are brainwashed to believe in that crap.

  • Welcome home to Church of God my friends and to all converts and cradle Catholics God bless you all. To those of you still out side the doors, they are not shut wake up, walk in and come home to the Church Jesus founded on the Rock of Peter.

    God Bless

  • @shronemor Peter? is that the guy in the film who abandon Jesus? a coward who escape while jesus suffering. Enough of this nonsense. Christianity has lost its zeal. Vatican scam, catholict priest paedophilia, etc. Churches are only full when theres calamity. Christians is just a mere symbol and sadly lost its spirituality. We have only consumerism santa clause christianity buying gifts and getting drunk during the holy occassion.

  • From one devil to anotha! From moon devil to fake lithurgical wood bowing. sad story! check omegaman radio to find out more...