@skullscoach, the play absolutely is legal. The ball need not be snapped between the legs.
When it comes to youth football, instruction of proper technique and cultivating a love and affinity for the game are behind only the safety of the players. Kids love practicing and executing plays like this. So where's the harm?
@skullscocach, Always wary of the youth coach who brags about his record and credentials. I won't get into mine, thanks.
What we seem to disagree on is the definition of "dirty". IMHO, dirty is something outside of the rules of the game that intends to or potentially injure a player, such as the chop block, the crackback, the leg whip, etc. This play is not dirty by that definition. Sneaky, certainly, but no more or less so than a fake punt.
When it comes to youth football, aside from the saf
If your going by High School rules it isn't legal. If you a coach who needs a chicken shit play like this to win then you a loser. You also have no respect for the game you are coaching. If you teach fundamentals instead of focusing on trick plays you wouldn't need the trick plays and yes I coach and my team 10-11 yr old's was 9-2 and won the league championship. We did it by playing good solid smash mouth football and vicious defense no sissy ass trick plays
Not dirty, just smart, especially at that level. Running this teaches the defensive team a valuable lesson to attack when the ball is transferred to the QB. Plus kids absolutely love running this play. It's craft & duplicitous, but within the rules & certainly not "dirty". Dirty is teach kids to chop block, or leg whip, or clip, etc, etc.
@theactualtodd Its not just dirty its illegal by high school rules and chicken shit. I laugh at Idiots like yourself who defend this play. If loser coaches like this knew how to coach they wouldn't need plays like this. I have 20 years of youth coaching exp and its always the desperate dump asses the try this crap and because our refs know the rules it gets called back and they are exposed as IDIOTS who don't know the rules. better check your rule book LmaoYDA
ha wow, well hmmmmm its hard 2 say bcuz defensively ur not taught how 2 defend against something like that, but then again u must always b vigilant sooooo ha idk questionably
see, there are two possibilities with this. one, the offense pulls it off and the offensive coaches look cool. two, the defense calls their bluff, the quarterback gets laid out behind the line of scrimmage with no blockers, and the offensive coaches look like absolute dumbasses.
I'd say legal but surely not in the spirit of the game. These kinds of plays are pretty easy to concoct and pull off when you have younger players that don't know all the rules anyway (the defense for example). And the quarterback didn't either or the coach wouldn't have to tell him to run. Like I said, legal but not in the spirit of things for football.
Seen this for years. It depends on the state rules, in some that type of snap is not legal. We had a variant of it in high school, our coach would call a guy to the sideline and yell at him as if he was off the field but he was just inbounds,on the snap he would run a go route and the corner didnt do a thing because he thought he was off the field. its not dirty to use the rules and lack of concentration on the oppositions part to your advantage.
Awesome video! I have a trick shot video and I want to know if it's worth my time to make vol. 2. But I need to know what you think of it. If u have a few minutes check it out. search Money $hots and it should be the 3rd one down. It's uploaded by cubsfan711. I know I act retarded after everyshot so you don't have to tell me.
Yes, this IS legal - AND a terrific way for a pee wee coach with failed athletic dreams to get his jollies by outsmarting a defense full of 11 year olds. Nice!
Hahahahahaha fuckin idiots on the other team just watching. Some team tried some dumb shit against my team back in HS i just lit his ass up 3 yd loss. Mama didnt raise no Fool.
its not illegal the center was saying get him off get him off he said it to the DT on the other teams side trash talking isnt illegal nor is the play plus its pee wee it dosent count for anything
fuck that wrong ball shit cuz if some1 where to tackle him while he was walin the ball to the coach then the kid who takled him would look like the biggest asshole.
who cares if this play worked first off in in pee wee leagues and if u have to create a play like that to score u are lame why dont u teach your kid some skill then he can score while the team is paying attention and anyone who is argueing rules on the comments remember it is a little kids game does it really matter if it was legal the kids care more about their ice cream after than the game itself
obviously these kids werent taught very well becasue one of the first thing you learn in football is to go when the ball moves not when everybody does if they were to play by this they could have easily talcked the qb for a loss.
It is an illegal play. Your friend should give up coaching if he thinks he concocted this play. It has been around for years. Your friend should give up law school if he thinks this is legal, because HS, NCAA, and NFL rule books all prohibit this.
@WhyACreativeName Please explain what is illegal about this play. Use a rule from a rulebook to explain this. I only watched it twice and I don't see anything illegal. What I see if someone using rules that typically only the Referees know about and that most fans do not.
1st off... 9:9:4 reads - No player shall use a kicking tee in violation of Rule 1-3-4.
2nd - Your interpretation of rule 9-6-3 is so loose that you are suggesting coaches cannot call plays from the sideline or yell "Go" to their players when they are running or to yell out "Jimmy is open". Clearly coaches are allowed to do those things.
There is nothing loose about it. There is a huge difference between coaching - instructing players on what to do - and using yourself in the play. I don't know how you can confuse "Jimmy your are a tackle, you dont line up next to the center", with "Hey we need a new ball, Jack bring it to me, *snap*, Jack come and get this one, Run NOW!"
@WhyACreativeName You conveniently cut out the relevant part of the rule and take it entirely out of context.
Rule 9-6-3 reads - No replaced player, substitute, coach, athletic trainer or other attendant shall hinder an opponent, touch the ball, influence the play or otherwise participate.
Participation in Football requires someone to be on the field of play. Hence the reason this rule is dealing with Illegal Participation.
You do not have to be on the field to illegally participate. Standing on the sideline, and handling a loose ball, that is live - and on the field of play, is illegal participation.
@WhyACreativeName But nobody except he Center and QB ever handled the ball. The coach didn't blow a whistle. He didn't trip anyone. He didn't interfere with anything on the field in any way. You must be blind. You are definitely wrong.
If your assertion that rule 9-9-4 applies here is correct then why is it I can quote you that rule and it has NOTHING to do with this play. 9-9-4 only mentions something aout use of a kicking tee. You have twice quoted the wrong rule to try to prove your point.
@WhyACreativeName well the team followed both of those rules. the coach never said, "hey you have the wrong ball", the kid did. and when he walked over he just said bring it over here, that's just normal for a coach to say to a running back. BOI
The offensive team can not use sounds or commands to make the defense think the ball is dead, when it is actually a live ball. That tactic puts the defense at an unfair disadvantage as they are not sure whether they can legally make a tackle.
The defensive player does not know if he can make a tackle without drawing a flag - and possible ejection - for tackling a player during a dead ball.
Consider a player jogging to the sideline to get a play from his coach, and an opponent runs at him full tilt and tackles him. There would be a bench clearing brawl because of a perceived "cheap shot". If you allow this play as legal ... then you require the defense to take a guess in situations like this, and that is an unfair disadvantage.
It is referred to as "deception plays". Do not confuse "misdirection" (fake hand off, bootleg), with deception (live/dead/hidden ball).
@WhyACreativeName That is nonsense. This is not a player jogging to the sideline to get a play.
The whole team on offense knows what is going on with this play. They all know that if the ruse fails their player will likely get blasted by a defender. They are not going to riot because what they knew was likely to happen actually happened.
You are grasping at straws looking to prove your point. But because you are clearly wrong you will not convince anyone.
The defense does not know whether or not the ball is live.
You are the one grasping at straws. And you are the one clearly wrong. You're trying to argue with an official, you lose automatically.
I have officiated HS varsity for 10 years. That play is illegal. I am proud to say that i have busted a coach twice for unsportsmanlike conduct for trying to use this play, and succesfully prevented it once before.
@WhyACreativeName The only reason the Defense doesn't know is they are not coached well enough to know better. This play only works on this age level.
You are proud to say you have stopped a coach from running an entirely LEGAL play. I bet you are on several schools scratch list for being a disgrace to the uniform.
When one official who knows the rules argues with another official that twice tries to point to a rule about a kicking tee which one loses. The one quoting the wrong rule TWICE.
I'm proud to say i've stopped a coach from using an ILLEGAL play.
Read the rule on unfair acts. It is pretty straight forward. 9-9-4 from memory, could be 9-9-3. Go look it up. It is as simple as that.
I'm a varsity official because I know the rules. I'm a playoff official because I TRAIN GUYS LIKE YOU! You learn to officiate the proper way, through my instruction.
Listen. Learn. Then you will see time on the field.
The Defense is always allowed to play until the whistle blows. Only the whistle makes the play dead, not the action that caused the whistle to be blown. The same applies to an inadvertent whistle. An inadvertent whistle kills the play despite the fact that no action that should have caused a whistle to be blown has occurred.
The wrong ball play is a standard Trick Play in football. If you look long enough you will see it tried and failed on YouTube.
Wrong, on both counts. The action of the play ends the play. Playing til you hear the whistle and hitting someone obviously out of the play will get you a 15 yard Unnecessary Roughness penalty.
@WhyACreativeName Wrong. The whistle ends the action if it doesn't then explain the rules on an Inadvertant Whistle. Why is it that an Inadvertant Whistle stops action if your belief that the action and not the whistle ends the action?
If a Runner slips and his knee touches but no Ref sees his knee touch does the action stop? No. Despite an action taking place that should have cues someone to blow the whistle the action did not stop the play.
Clearly the whistle trumps the action on the field.
If a runner has his forward progress stopped, the play is dead. Anything that happens after that can be voided by an official. The official has the authority to award possession to team A, even if a fumble occured prior to a whistel, if the runner's progresss was stopped.
The action on the play determines when the play ends. Not the whistle. Oh, and there is a reason why they call it an "inadvertant whistle". A whistle sounded, when play was not dead.
The Wrong Ball trick is NOT a standard play. It is infact illegal in every aspect. Ask a varsity, playoff official and he will tell you "the wrong ball play" is illegal. The penalty is a deadball Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty charged to the head coach.
If you officiated, you would learn that. They teach it to you at your local state meeting.
@WhyACreativeName I do officiate and I know the rules. You clearly do not know them or you wouldn't be trying to pass off coaches saying things on the sidelines as Illegal Participation... because you would understand that they have to have entered the field of play to be considered a participant.
There is nothing Illegal about this play or you would have been able to find the rule(s) it violates. You found rules that you mis-applied out of ignorance or arrogance. I win. You lose. Bye bye now.
Wrong. You don't officiate, and you don't know the rules. Or you would know that the "wrong ball" play is illegal. Its illegal in HS, college, and NFL.
Rule 9:9:4 covers this play. You're just too stupid to understand that.
You suck. I'm a play-off official, you're not. I have to bail guys like you out of trouble, b/c you don't read your rule book. You lose. Hang up your whistle. Good bye.
@WhyACreativeName Which state lets somebody that will quote the wrong rule TWICE to prove his point Ref a Varsity game... let alone a playoff? I've seen some pretty incapable officials in my time but You are terrible.
I must be too stupid to understand how a rule about a Kicking Tee covers whatever a GENIUS like you says it does.
You think you know the rulebook so well you can quote it from memory and TWICE now you have quoted nonsense. You are the guy that gives all of us a bad name.
Definitively, this play is not legal under the National Federation High School Rules (followed by the CIF) or the NCAA rules. It is considered an attempt to deceive and thus deemed unsportsmanlike conduct. These plays are all deemed illegal and in violation of Rule 9, governing unfair tactics and unsportsmanlike conduct.
It is a great trick play and usually a successful play, but unfortunately it is not permitted.
@WhyACreativeName You must be an official beer drinker! My husband played footbal all through his school career and the ball was hiked. SO this means the ball was in play and the play was legal. If the ref felt that it was "illegal" the whistle would have been blown and flags thrown for a penlaty.
No, i'm the guy that saves your butt when you screw something up and the coach is riding you like a horse. I'm the guy who keeps you from screwing up in the first place. You're the guy who costs a team a win. You've seen an incapable official every time you look in a mirror.
Coaches influencing the play is illegal participation. If you read a rule book, you'll see that it is in there.
A coach does not have to enter the field of play to interfer with the play. A coach could blow a whistle, trip a player, throw something onto the field, cause a distraction that creates confusion as to wether play is live or dead, to influence the play. Illegal Participation.
You can't differentiate b/t coaching and influencing the play, and should quit.
@WhyACreativeName The Coach did not DO any of those things anywhere except in YOUR mind. You are going to make up things that did not happen and then make up your own interpretation of the rules to fit your argument. Lame.
If you cannot differentiate between stuff that did happen and stuff that didn't happen you need to seek therapy. You are clearly delusional and in need of serious professional help.
@WhyACreativeName So why is it that most of the time the Wrong Ball Play fails MISERABLY? It is because defenders realize no whistle has been blown and they blow up the guy attempting the play. There are examples on YouTube of what is supposed to happen when this trick play is attempted.
You will never see this play on the Varsity Level, College or Pro because the players are all too savvy at that point and cannot be fooled by it. It is no different than the hidden ball play in Baseball.
IT IS A LOT DIFFERENT than the hidden ball play in baseball. In baseball it is legal to hide the ball - in a glove. It is ILLEGAL in football to hide the ball. Please do yourself a favor and do not try to say that a bootleg, or a fake handoff is hiding the ball - its not.
You can't officiate football; don't let me school you on baseball too.
No, it's not a dirty play; it's obviously perfectly legal. Of course, you will never see someone try this at a major college game and definitely not in the Pros. Which is what gives plays like this their charm. After High School, they ain't gonna work :)
if that was my coach and we were on defense hed be screaming to get the kid wit the ball cuz its not like a whistle blew....shit coaching on the other side
Cleanest play I have ever seen. Kids need to learn the rules one way or another. Btw, this isn't original. It's actually pretty common in peewee leagues
I cant believe a rugby vs football flame war has started here also. Wtf is wrong with people these days? Its kids playing a game and you idiots start these same dumbass arguments. Get it through your think skulls, no NFL team is going to fly overseas to play rugby and the All Blacks are not going to fly here to the U.S to play football just to satisfy you didots trolls, but go about you damn business.
@91gt306 I got to back up NFL players, i mean they do everything Rugby players do but with pads. Thats running aroung with weight on your back every day. I think if there were a rugby vs NFL the NFL would win.
@xKarIy The pads' weight is next to nothing. It's a total of what, 10-15 lbs? After carrying that around all day for 8+ years for about 1/4th of a year each year, it amounts to almost nothing. At this point in time, the pads' weight isn't so much of a disadvantage than an advantage -- You can hit harder, and with more confidence of not getting hurt with pads on.
this is the best play ever! people need to lighten up and have some fun, this is why kids grow up to be such hardasses cause of all the people getting mad for them playing an amazing play. People you need to understand something THIS ISN'T NFL. They don't get one red cent for anything they do! Just letting you all know before you got angry for nothing :)
It's kids! Let them have fun! To all u haters saying it wasn't fair or no class, u guys must have been the losers back in school that was to chicken shit to try anything fun!
Either way it's dirty. It it fails, all you can say is "the ball was messed up, the 10 year olds aren't gonna call a time out" So if he would have got sacked, it probably wouldn't have counted.
@Shingar There's no such thing as a dirty play, as long as it's legal. It's so dumb of a play, that you are RETARDED FOR FALLING FOR IT. There's a rulebook and you are responsible for know what's legal and what isn't. Are fake reverses DIRTY? Are fake punts dirty? Is a pump-fake dirty? Hell no it isn't--and there is no saying that that's not dirty, but a fake non-hike is not dirty. That's absolutely ridiculous. As a athlete, if this happened to me, I would chuckle and say "good shit".
@Shingar yeah thats pretty much how i feel... sure, it's legal, but it's nowhere near sportsmanlike. it's just teaching the kids to use dirty tricks to get ahead.
@migbee I disagree, it teaches kids that thinking, or lack their of will either make you a winner or a loser. The kids on the other team should think more often... Bet it never happens to them again though.
Completely legal. If anything it just taught the kids to keep there eye on the ball and keep focused on the game. Now they know it doesn't matter how the ball is moved the second that ball moves they fire out.
no clas the purpose of youth sports is to teach our young men and women to be upstanding individuals throughout life not win a game in fourth grade. totally umprofessional coach!!
Legal snap "in order for a snap to be legal, it must be a quick continuous motion in which the ball leaves the hands of the snapper and touches the ground or hands of a back." This was clearly and illegal snap.... you really can't slowly pick the ball up off the ground...turn to your left and hand it to your quarter back ---- taken directly from the American Football Rule Book
This is an ILLEGAL PLAY! In the NFHS rulebook ( which is the rulebook that the entire country uses) this is an illegal play. What makes this illegal is the fact that he uses the coaches to deceive the defense. If he wouldn't have said anything and just ran the play then everything would have been legal.
@BBOYY588 they don't have to say anything to hike the ball, often times a quarter back will tap the center without saying anything an he'll hike the ball on a qb sneak.
I say...the other team that I played against in 4th grade did the damn same thing...and I ran through the center line and sacked the QB for a 12 yd loss.
@martian59 Are you kidding me? The play was completely legal. If anything, it'll teach these children something about using all available means to accomplish a goal.
@mathprodigy It really wasn't legal, it was an illegal snap. in order for a snap to be legal it must be "a quick continuous motion" Check the american football rulebook.
How is this dirty? Its a trick play, if tricks wern't allowed in sport it would ruin the game. There wouldd be no fakes in basketball no sidesteps in rugby and no awesome plays like this. There was obviously no way to defend against it but that doesnt make it dirty.
hahaha i serious love reading through comments and especially top comments. people are fucken hilarious..oh great fake by the way u really sold the play action to coach smarts haha
this aint dirty. if ur not aware enuf to realise the ball is still active then u probably not very good at football, winners are grinners, losers can please themselves
I've seen another version of this where the linebacker doesn't fall for it and just drills the QB. It's a legal play so it's fair. Their coach new this. So the other coach should have told the kids how to defend it...
its a pee wee football game with 10 year old kids wtf are people gettin so upset about shut the fuck up and enjoy the entertainment geez awesome by the way i love it keep having fun while you can
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uRnotGOODLikeME 12 minutes ago
@skullscoach, the play absolutely is legal. The ball need not be snapped between the legs.
When it comes to youth football, instruction of proper technique and cultivating a love and affinity for the game are behind only the safety of the players. Kids love practicing and executing plays like this. So where's the harm?
theactualtodd 13 hours ago
@skullscocach, Always wary of the youth coach who brags about his record and credentials. I won't get into mine, thanks.
What we seem to disagree on is the definition of "dirty". IMHO, dirty is something outside of the rules of the game that intends to or potentially injure a player, such as the chop block, the crackback, the leg whip, etc. This play is not dirty by that definition. Sneaky, certainly, but no more or less so than a fake punt.
When it comes to youth football, aside from the saf
theactualtodd 13 hours ago
If your going by High School rules it isn't legal. If you a coach who needs a chicken shit play like this to win then you a loser. You also have no respect for the game you are coaching. If you teach fundamentals instead of focusing on trick plays you wouldn't need the trick plays and yes I coach and my team 10-11 yr old's was 9-2 and won the league championship. We did it by playing good solid smash mouth football and vicious defense no sissy ass trick plays
skullscoach 21 hours ago
Not dirty, just smart, especially at that level. Running this teaches the defensive team a valuable lesson to attack when the ball is transferred to the QB. Plus kids absolutely love running this play. It's craft & duplicitous, but within the rules & certainly not "dirty". Dirty is teach kids to chop block, or leg whip, or clip, etc, etc.
theactualtodd 1 day ago
@theactualtodd Its not just dirty its illegal by high school rules and chicken shit. I laugh at Idiots like yourself who defend this play. If loser coaches like this knew how to coach they wouldn't need plays like this. I have 20 years of youth coaching exp and its always the desperate dump asses the try this crap and because our refs know the rules it gets called back and they are exposed as IDIOTS who don't know the rules. better check your rule book LmaoYDA
skullscoach 20 hours ago
My sock is better then recording than urs
eibbor17 2 days ago
ha wow, well hmmmmm its hard 2 say bcuz defensively ur not taught how 2 defend against something like that, but then again u must always b vigilant sooooo ha idk questionably
champ24680 3 days ago
Legal AND dirty
BlueJayBird0718 5 days ago
I would have laid the shit out of the qb
XGadoradex 5 days ago
the wrong ball play. should be banned. if the defense is smart the qb will gets trucked and injuredn
AgentJ11191998 5 days ago
Lesson #1 for playing defense. Unless you hear a whistle you attack when the ball leaves the ground. Very simple.
wcjcnc 6 days ago
It is pathetic how adults do this. Do you really feel smart for tricking a bunch of 3rd graders?
cicamore 6 days ago
U always watch the ball dumb ass
monster49270 1 week ago
all these kids learned a very valuable lesson. play until the whistle.
Jswizzle217 1 week ago
Football does not build character, it reveals it.
MiataManic 1 week ago
ha
charlie77290 1 week ago
yeah its dirty, but it worked.
trier4952 1 week ago
Leave it to a lawyer.
Cowcharge 1 week ago
see, there are two possibilities with this. one, the offense pulls it off and the offensive coaches look cool. two, the defense calls their bluff, the quarterback gets laid out behind the line of scrimmage with no blockers, and the offensive coaches look like absolute dumbasses.
cnuggets9000 2 weeks ago
I'd say legal but surely not in the spirit of the game. These kinds of plays are pretty easy to concoct and pull off when you have younger players that don't know all the rules anyway (the defense for example). And the quarterback didn't either or the coach wouldn't have to tell him to run. Like I said, legal but not in the spirit of things for football.
pencilneck22 2 weeks ago
FAIR
7peep 2 weeks ago
FAIR!!! This is not in anyway dirty, its deception at its best.
stevecore06 2 weeks ago
Psychology + football?
5teampunker 2 weeks ago
the awkward moment when the top comments are against each other AND one replies to the other.....
blabbernackle123 2 weeks ago
Seen this for years. It depends on the state rules, in some that type of snap is not legal. We had a variant of it in high school, our coach would call a guy to the sideline and yell at him as if he was off the field but he was just inbounds,on the snap he would run a go route and the corner didnt do a thing because he thought he was off the field. its not dirty to use the rules and lack of concentration on the oppositions part to your advantage.
04silverGTO 2 weeks ago
lmao at the dad screeming , GETT EMM!! GET HIMM!
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Awesome video! I have a trick shot video and I want to know if it's worth my time to make vol. 2. But I need to know what you think of it. If u have a few minutes check it out. search Money $hots and it should be the 3rd one down. It's uploaded by cubsfan711. I know I act retarded after everyshot so you don't have to tell me.
RCortez1986 2 weeks ago
bahaha, advertisements
CMinn 2 weeks ago
i would of laughed if another kid off the other team came out the middle of no where and laid his ass out
Crzygerm105 2 weeks ago
Yes, this IS legal - AND a terrific way for a pee wee coach with failed athletic dreams to get his jollies by outsmarting a defense full of 11 year olds. Nice!
Justice7147 2 weeks ago
@Justice7147: I agree. The best point made here.
pencilneck22 2 weeks ago
Bottom line is, football is gay as fuck. :) love me, hate me i really dont give a flying fuck. <33
MrAlexSwitzler 3 weeks ago
I'd only say its dirty cause the qb was talking about getting a new ball
EvanGrathwohl 3 weeks ago
Oklahoma Panhandle State actually wins a game!
TheSonomaDude 3 weeks ago
stupid
dsmitty82 3 weeks ago
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that was dirtier than my google history
Dwain9695 3 weeks ago
It's funny is what it is. Shuddup and enjoy :D
EdoFuzzy21 3 weeks ago
this is totally fair. i love this shit man! :D <3
dootzky 3 weeks ago
@dootzky
totally illegal.
WhyACreativeName 3 weeks ago
@WhyACreativeName Not illegal? We can do it in 8th grade football
EhvzyHD 3 weeks ago
LOL it was smart
1207kev 3 weeks ago
It would haven been hilarious if the other team picked it and smashed the shit out of that little wanker.
thesnowdogg 3 weeks ago
Hahahahahaha fuckin idiots on the other team just watching. Some team tried some dumb shit against my team back in HS i just lit his ass up 3 yd loss. Mama didnt raise no Fool.
azure1997 3 weeks ago 20
lolz everybdy need chill. like foreal they is lil kids nd its juss a little game whoo cares sbout da rules there little soo shut upp
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I saw this a few years bk showed it to my coach n it won us a playoff game lol
Mrggp3 3 weeks ago
Looks good but hate too be the other team
ballerbro81 3 weeks ago
sneaky but brilliant
SuperMike82 3 weeks ago
its not illegal the center was saying get him off get him off he said it to the DT on the other teams side trash talking isnt illegal nor is the play plus its pee wee it dosent count for anything
reedradar 3 weeks ago
fuck that wrong ball shit cuz if some1 where to tackle him while he was walin the ball to the coach then the kid who takled him would look like the biggest asshole.
wrinklypoptart18 3 weeks ago
Why wont the music end?
tjpickel2 4 weeks ago
How pethetic is this? lol gg
SweetSinFZ 4 weeks ago
I wish I saw a defensive player catch and tackle the sh*t out of him for making that play. =(
MrThanhoi 1 month ago
That's straight backyard football there.
beefsunited 1 month ago
who cares if this play worked first off in in pee wee leagues and if u have to create a play like that to score u are lame why dont u teach your kid some skill then he can score while the team is paying attention and anyone who is argueing rules on the comments remember it is a little kids game does it really matter if it was legal the kids care more about their ice cream after than the game itself
bigtitsmgee1 1 month ago 2
around 0:19, sum1 was saying "get on him" or "get him" or sumthing like tat so tat guy was alrdy on to the play, was it the other team's coach?????
TsHeEjBoI4eVa 1 month ago
The play is valid because its so clever the officials are like fuckit! That was badass lol
Migzpwnz 1 month ago
I think it should be fair... for more funny clips XD
PCking001 1 month ago
wish you could do that in the video games
zombie5831 1 month ago
Coach: What, What, GO GO GO GO lol
curling27 1 month ago
That was cheap. If you wanna win a football game, make it amazing.
FlashFlareLetsPlays 1 month ago
ha ha ha
ryanMKFREAK1 1 month ago
FOS RO DAH!
joshcroy777 1 month ago
lol who the fuck cares if it is illegal or not.... they are like 5 years old let em have fun
everendinghockey 1 month ago
@everendinghockey
people who want to see players learn how to play the game, care if it is legal or not.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
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everendinghockey 1 month ago
Wow!! In my league my team actually tried this but then the refs wisled when my QB was giving the excuse!
7sadbeeyotsh7 1 month ago
obviously these kids werent taught very well becasue one of the first thing you learn in football is to go when the ball moves not when everybody does if they were to play by this they could have easily talcked the qb for a loss.
MrHockeyjock8 1 month ago
Dirty, no. Cheap, yes
chadpete4820 1 month ago
It is legal but the other team are just clueless
mosaab5597 1 month ago
@mosaab5597
Wrong, it is illegal.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
Lol the kid just like.. Shouldve taken acting courses...
MikaSmashty 1 month ago
I'm sure others have said this before, but way to go coach you've tricked a bunch of kids!!
oxxadamxxo 1 month ago
It is an illegal play. Your friend should give up coaching if he thinks he concocted this play. It has been around for years. Your friend should give up law school if he thinks this is legal, because HS, NCAA, and NFL rule books all prohibit this.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName Please explain what is illegal about this play. Use a rule from a rulebook to explain this. I only watched it twice and I don't see anything illegal. What I see if someone using rules that typically only the Referees know about and that most fans do not.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@brucemercer
Several rule codes can be enforced here, under high school rules
NFHS Rule Code:
Illegal Participation
9:6:3 No replaced player, coach, trainer, or other attendant ... shall influence the play, or otherwise participate.
Unfair Acts
9:9:4: A player or non player or person not subject to the rules shall not hinder play by an unfair act which may not have a specific rules coverage.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago 6
@WhyACreativeName Not even close.
1st off... 9:9:4 reads - No player shall use a kicking tee in violation of Rule 1-3-4.
2nd - Your interpretation of rule 9-6-3 is so loose that you are suggesting coaches cannot call plays from the sideline or yell "Go" to their players when they are running or to yell out "Jimmy is open". Clearly coaches are allowed to do those things.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@brucemercer
9-9-1: A player or non player or person not subject to the rules shall not hinder play by an unfair act which has no specific rule coverage.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@brucemercer
There is nothing loose about it. There is a huge difference between coaching - instructing players on what to do - and using yourself in the play. I don't know how you can confuse "Jimmy your are a tackle, you dont line up next to the center", with "Hey we need a new ball, Jack bring it to me, *snap*, Jack come and get this one, Run NOW!"
Big difference.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName You conveniently cut out the relevant part of the rule and take it entirely out of context.
Rule 9-6-3 reads - No replaced player, substitute, coach, athletic trainer or other attendant shall hinder an opponent, touch the ball, influence the play or otherwise participate.
Participation in Football requires someone to be on the field of play. Hence the reason this rule is dealing with Illegal Participation.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@brucemercer
You do not have to be on the field to illegally participate. Standing on the sideline, and handling a loose ball, that is live - and on the field of play, is illegal participation.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName But nobody except he Center and QB ever handled the ball. The coach didn't blow a whistle. He didn't trip anyone. He didn't interfere with anything on the field in any way. You must be blind. You are definitely wrong.
If your assertion that rule 9-9-4 applies here is correct then why is it I can quote you that rule and it has NOTHING to do with this play. 9-9-4 only mentions something aout use of a kicking tee. You have twice quoted the wrong rule to try to prove your point.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName well the team followed both of those rules. the coach never said, "hey you have the wrong ball", the kid did. and when he walked over he just said bring it over here, that's just normal for a coach to say to a running back. BOI
carsondaly12345 1 month ago
@brucemercer
The offensive team can not use sounds or commands to make the defense think the ball is dead, when it is actually a live ball. That tactic puts the defense at an unfair disadvantage as they are not sure whether they can legally make a tackle.
The defensive player does not know if he can make a tackle without drawing a flag - and possible ejection - for tackling a player during a dead ball.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
Consider a player jogging to the sideline to get a play from his coach, and an opponent runs at him full tilt and tackles him. There would be a bench clearing brawl because of a perceived "cheap shot". If you allow this play as legal ... then you require the defense to take a guess in situations like this, and that is an unfair disadvantage.
It is referred to as "deception plays". Do not confuse "misdirection" (fake hand off, bootleg), with deception (live/dead/hidden ball).
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName That is nonsense. This is not a player jogging to the sideline to get a play.
The whole team on offense knows what is going on with this play. They all know that if the ruse fails their player will likely get blasted by a defender. They are not going to riot because what they knew was likely to happen actually happened.
You are grasping at straws looking to prove your point. But because you are clearly wrong you will not convince anyone.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@brucemercer
The defense does not know whether or not the ball is live.
You are the one grasping at straws. And you are the one clearly wrong. You're trying to argue with an official, you lose automatically.
I have officiated HS varsity for 10 years. That play is illegal. I am proud to say that i have busted a coach twice for unsportsmanlike conduct for trying to use this play, and succesfully prevented it once before.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName The only reason the Defense doesn't know is they are not coached well enough to know better. This play only works on this age level.
You are proud to say you have stopped a coach from running an entirely LEGAL play. I bet you are on several schools scratch list for being a disgrace to the uniform.
When one official who knows the rules argues with another official that twice tries to point to a rule about a kicking tee which one loses. The one quoting the wrong rule TWICE.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@brucemercer
I'm proud to say i've stopped a coach from using an ILLEGAL play.
Read the rule on unfair acts. It is pretty straight forward. 9-9-4 from memory, could be 9-9-3. Go look it up. It is as simple as that.
I'm a varsity official because I know the rules. I'm a playoff official because I TRAIN GUYS LIKE YOU! You learn to officiate the proper way, through my instruction.
Listen. Learn. Then you will see time on the field.
WhyACreativeName 3 weeks ago
@brucemercer
The one who doesn't know that a play is illegal loses - that would be you.
WhyACreativeName 3 weeks ago
@WhyACreativeName Bull. What ruls is that?
The Defense is always allowed to play until the whistle blows. Only the whistle makes the play dead, not the action that caused the whistle to be blown. The same applies to an inadvertent whistle. An inadvertent whistle kills the play despite the fact that no action that should have caused a whistle to be blown has occurred.
The wrong ball play is a standard Trick Play in football. If you look long enough you will see it tried and failed on YouTube.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@brucemercer
Wrong, on both counts. The action of the play ends the play. Playing til you hear the whistle and hitting someone obviously out of the play will get you a 15 yard Unnecessary Roughness penalty.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName Wrong. The whistle ends the action if it doesn't then explain the rules on an Inadvertant Whistle. Why is it that an Inadvertant Whistle stops action if your belief that the action and not the whistle ends the action?
If a Runner slips and his knee touches but no Ref sees his knee touch does the action stop? No. Despite an action taking place that should have cues someone to blow the whistle the action did not stop the play.
Clearly the whistle trumps the action on the field.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@brucemercer
If a runner has his forward progress stopped, the play is dead. Anything that happens after that can be voided by an official. The official has the authority to award possession to team A, even if a fumble occured prior to a whistel, if the runner's progresss was stopped.
The action on the play determines when the play ends. Not the whistle. Oh, and there is a reason why they call it an "inadvertant whistle". A whistle sounded, when play was not dead.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@brucemercer
The Wrong Ball trick is NOT a standard play. It is infact illegal in every aspect. Ask a varsity, playoff official and he will tell you "the wrong ball play" is illegal. The penalty is a deadball Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty charged to the head coach.
If you officiated, you would learn that. They teach it to you at your local state meeting.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName I do officiate and I know the rules. You clearly do not know them or you wouldn't be trying to pass off coaches saying things on the sidelines as Illegal Participation... because you would understand that they have to have entered the field of play to be considered a participant.
There is nothing Illegal about this play or you would have been able to find the rule(s) it violates. You found rules that you mis-applied out of ignorance or arrogance. I win. You lose. Bye bye now.
brucemercer 1 month ago 31
@brucemercer,
Wrong. You don't officiate, and you don't know the rules. Or you would know that the "wrong ball" play is illegal. Its illegal in HS, college, and NFL.
Rule 9:9:4 covers this play. You're just too stupid to understand that.
You suck. I'm a play-off official, you're not. I have to bail guys like you out of trouble, b/c you don't read your rule book. You lose. Hang up your whistle. Good bye.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName Which state lets somebody that will quote the wrong rule TWICE to prove his point Ref a Varsity game... let alone a playoff? I've seen some pretty incapable officials in my time but You are terrible.
I must be too stupid to understand how a rule about a Kicking Tee covers whatever a GENIUS like you says it does.
You think you know the rulebook so well you can quote it from memory and TWICE now you have quoted nonsense. You are the guy that gives all of us a bad name.
brucemercer 1 month ago
Definitively, this play is not legal under the National Federation High School Rules (followed by the CIF) or the NCAA rules. It is considered an attempt to deceive and thus deemed unsportsmanlike conduct. These plays are all deemed illegal and in violation of Rule 9, governing unfair tactics and unsportsmanlike conduct.
It is a great trick play and usually a successful play, but unfortunately it is not permitted.
Vic Winnek NCAA Football Official
WhyACreativeName 3 weeks ago
@WhyACreativeName You must be an official beer drinker! My husband played footbal all through his school career and the ball was hiked. SO this means the ball was in play and the play was legal. If the ref felt that it was "illegal" the whistle would have been blown and flags thrown for a penlaty.
midiaism 1 week ago
@brucemercer
No, i'm the guy that saves your butt when you screw something up and the coach is riding you like a horse. I'm the guy who keeps you from screwing up in the first place. You're the guy who costs a team a win. You've seen an incapable official every time you look in a mirror.
WhyACreativeName 3 weeks ago
@brucemercer
Coaches influencing the play is illegal participation. If you read a rule book, you'll see that it is in there.
A coach does not have to enter the field of play to interfer with the play. A coach could blow a whistle, trip a player, throw something onto the field, cause a distraction that creates confusion as to wether play is live or dead, to influence the play. Illegal Participation.
You can't differentiate b/t coaching and influencing the play, and should quit.
WhyACreativeName 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName The Coach did not DO any of those things anywhere except in YOUR mind. You are going to make up things that did not happen and then make up your own interpretation of the rules to fit your argument. Lame.
If you cannot differentiate between stuff that did happen and stuff that didn't happen you need to seek therapy. You are clearly delusional and in need of serious professional help.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@WhyACreativeName So why is it that most of the time the Wrong Ball Play fails MISERABLY? It is because defenders realize no whistle has been blown and they blow up the guy attempting the play. There are examples on YouTube of what is supposed to happen when this trick play is attempted.
You will never see this play on the Varsity Level, College or Pro because the players are all too savvy at that point and cannot be fooled by it. It is no different than the hidden ball play in Baseball.
brucemercer 1 month ago
@brucemercer
IT IS A LOT DIFFERENT than the hidden ball play in baseball. In baseball it is legal to hide the ball - in a glove. It is ILLEGAL in football to hide the ball. Please do yourself a favor and do not try to say that a bootleg, or a fake handoff is hiding the ball - its not.
You can't officiate football; don't let me school you on baseball too.
WhyACreativeName 3 weeks ago
i am one those players that would not be able to do this i would just start laughing before he even starts running.
bigx811 1 month ago
You have to play a team with a IQ of 0, to get away with this
MikeSuth69 1 month ago
Nice. But try doing that in NFL, you're gonna get killed.
AbovePerfect 1 month ago
No, it's not a dirty play; it's obviously perfectly legal. Of course, you will never see someone try this at a major college game and definitely not in the Pros. Which is what gives plays like this their charm. After High School, they ain't gonna work :)
b54oramaster 1 month ago
i think this is hilarious!
joshm71235 1 month ago
It's the other teams fault for not noticing what was going on.
MrCasey94 1 month ago
snap*
MrPiff17 1 month ago
is that an illegal hut??
MrPiff17 1 month ago
if that was my coach and we were on defense hed be screaming to get the kid wit the ball cuz its not like a whistle blew....shit coaching on the other side
TheKandy44 1 month ago
Helllll yer
murphdog777333 1 month ago
Good clean legal play. Thats why its called a "trick play". Btw...some of you dumbasses need spell check
WTFxSAUCE 1 month ago
Cleanest play I have ever seen. Kids need to learn the rules one way or another. Btw, this isn't original. It's actually pretty common in peewee leagues
zeppelin2224 1 month ago
logest yard?
459lilwayne 1 month ago
This play was so dirty when my mom walked in I changed to porn
Dwain9695 1 month ago
lame
migbee 1 month ago
he didnt "concoct" this play.. its been around for a long time..i did this shit when i was in 3rd grade
666SwAgaSauRusReX 1 month ago
Recorded on a goldfish By: MrFanzzzz
minelabowner 1 month ago
haha we did that play in football in like 4th grade but our QB was to slow and got tackled lol
1997huskies 1 month ago
Im sorry but thats just cold, thats a Mest up play, Not even worth 6 points, Funny yes, but not worth it
Bloodshare8 1 month ago
you can do that
911thebeastboss 1 month ago
I cant believe a rugby vs football flame war has started here also. Wtf is wrong with people these days? Its kids playing a game and you idiots start these same dumbass arguments. Get it through your think skulls, no NFL team is going to fly overseas to play rugby and the All Blacks are not going to fly here to the U.S to play football just to satisfy you didots trolls, but go about you damn business.
91gt306 1 month ago
@91gt306 I got to back up NFL players, i mean they do everything Rugby players do but with pads. Thats running aroung with weight on your back every day. I think if there were a rugby vs NFL the NFL would win.
xKarIy 1 month ago
@xKarIy I agree. You make a good point.
91gt306 1 month ago
@91gt306 Allthough im sure the rugby league could take a hit harder than the NFL players, they gotta be use to concusions and stuff lol
xKarIy 1 month ago
@xKarIy lol yeah you're right, those guys are as tough as they come.
91gt306 1 month ago
@xKarIy The pads' weight is next to nothing. It's a total of what, 10-15 lbs? After carrying that around all day for 8+ years for about 1/4th of a year each year, it amounts to almost nothing. At this point in time, the pads' weight isn't so much of a disadvantage than an advantage -- You can hit harder, and with more confidence of not getting hurt with pads on.
tricd0444 1 month ago
this is the best play ever! people need to lighten up and have some fun, this is why kids grow up to be such hardasses cause of all the people getting mad for them playing an amazing play. People you need to understand something THIS ISN'T NFL. They don't get one red cent for anything they do! Just letting you all know before you got angry for nothing :)
TeeTeeBarbie 1 month ago
It's kids! Let them have fun! To all u haters saying it wasn't fair or no class, u guys must have been the losers back in school that was to chicken shit to try anything fun!
mrshawnjohn33 1 month ago
Lmao
kassimmasad 1 month ago
that was nice
tuttleck 1 month ago
Either way it's dirty. It it fails, all you can say is "the ball was messed up, the 10 year olds aren't gonna call a time out" So if he would have got sacked, it probably wouldn't have counted.
DuckAndDodge05 1 month ago
Pathetic that adults would teach this. Just pathetic.
Shingar 1 month ago
@Shingar There's no such thing as a dirty play, as long as it's legal. It's so dumb of a play, that you are RETARDED FOR FALLING FOR IT. There's a rulebook and you are responsible for know what's legal and what isn't. Are fake reverses DIRTY? Are fake punts dirty? Is a pump-fake dirty? Hell no it isn't--and there is no saying that that's not dirty, but a fake non-hike is not dirty. That's absolutely ridiculous. As a athlete, if this happened to me, I would chuckle and say "good shit".
kltpamplona 1 month ago 9
@kltpamplona i think he might mean dirty as awesome, not illegal
fredfredburgerfan77 1 month ago
@Shingar yeah thats pretty much how i feel... sure, it's legal, but it's nowhere near sportsmanlike. it's just teaching the kids to use dirty tricks to get ahead.
migbee 1 month ago
@migbee I disagree, it teaches kids that thinking, or lack their of will either make you a winner or a loser. The kids on the other team should think more often... Bet it never happens to them again though.
Sandersman231 1 month ago
I was on the opposing team but its aight we still won ;)
CRitcheyRich82 1 month ago
Completely legal. If anything it just taught the kids to keep there eye on the ball and keep focused on the game. Now they know it doesn't matter how the ball is moved the second that ball moves they fire out.
fisherboy808 1 month ago
no clas the purpose of youth sports is to teach our young men and women to be upstanding individuals throughout life not win a game in fourth grade. totally umprofessional coach!!
kiddy145 1 month ago
Legal snap "in order for a snap to be legal, it must be a quick continuous motion in which the ball leaves the hands of the snapper and touches the ground or hands of a back." This was clearly and illegal snap.... you really can't slowly pick the ball up off the ground...turn to your left and hand it to your quarter back ---- taken directly from the American Football Rule Book
BUGZ2OO2 1 month ago
what did you record this with, and etch n sketch?
confusedkid6 1 month ago
LMAO! It is still perfectly legal in little league football anyway.
ThorLittleman 1 month ago
This is an ILLEGAL PLAY! In the NFHS rulebook ( which is the rulebook that the entire country uses) this is an illegal play. What makes this illegal is the fact that he uses the coaches to deceive the defense. If he wouldn't have said anything and just ran the play then everything would have been legal.
UKCAT5FAN 1 month ago
illegal play - unsportsmanlike conduct
clearover 1 month ago
HOMERUN!!!
igo2pies 1 month ago
It is completely fair. Trick, trick, tricky!
mathprodigy 1 month ago
Not a single fuck was given that day
yaypanda 1 month ago
The other one was better, the kid literally walked through the D
KhIDp0is0N 1 month ago
i know this sounds stupid but why is he aloud to do tht he didnt sayhike help me please?
BBOYY588 1 month ago
@BBOYY588 they don't have to say anything to hike the ball, often times a quarter back will tap the center without saying anything an he'll hike the ball on a qb sneak.
simsywimsy 1 month ago
I say...the other team that I played against in 4th grade did the damn same thing...and I ran through the center line and sacked the QB for a 12 yd loss.
Don't try this at home kids
RPSEAT101 1 month ago 30
@RPSEAT101 Sick story bro! Thanks for telling us all about your life. We care.
Jetjooto 1 month ago
Taking advantage of children's lack of thinking capacity is cowardly. The coach who was involved with this should be very ashamed of himself.
martian59 1 month ago
@martian59 shut the fuck up
theFuturetrojan 1 month ago
@martian59 Are you kidding me? The play was completely legal. If anything, it'll teach these children something about using all available means to accomplish a goal.
mathprodigy 1 month ago
@mathprodigy It really wasn't legal, it was an illegal snap. in order for a snap to be legal it must be "a quick continuous motion" Check the american football rulebook.
BUGZ2OO2 1 month ago
@BUGZ2OO2 Ah I see. Thanks for the info.
mathprodigy 1 month ago
its not dirty, its smart
LilTwist1117 1 month ago
Thats a penalty lol
torrienorth3 1 month ago
How is this dirty? Its a trick play, if tricks wern't allowed in sport it would ruin the game. There wouldd be no fakes in basketball no sidesteps in rugby and no awesome plays like this. There was obviously no way to defend against it but that doesnt make it dirty.
itank16 1 month ago
that's hilarious
TheOreoPwnage 1 month ago
i would love to see someone try and run something like this in the nfl and when their walking over to the coach with the ball just get laid out.
DABEARS1185 1 month ago
@syyyyyke
dude chill out...
just chill
its 10 year old kids having fun.im sorry you didnt know how to joke or have fun at 10...
KruSunPower 1 month ago
theres no trick play... the other side just should wake up and tackle the guy =D
dcrypter87 1 month ago
Its clean
lax5857 1 month ago
silly little rascals
jokestep 1 month ago
hahaha i serious love reading through comments and especially top comments. people are fucken hilarious..oh great fake by the way u really sold the play action to coach smarts haha
KuljancicAlen 1 month ago
Fuckin brilliant. Life lesson for the other team. always be ready
doug19848 1 month ago
this aint dirty. if ur not aware enuf to realise the ball is still active then u probably not very good at football, winners are grinners, losers can please themselves
clownsntown 1 month ago
I've seen another version of this where the linebacker doesn't fall for it and just drills the QB. It's a legal play so it's fair. Their coach new this. So the other coach should have told the kids how to defend it...
fortress1133 1 month ago
I really do not see why it is a dirty play. It was legal & the other coach should have said the ball was hiked no whistle tackle him.
BBBYpsi 2 months ago
its a pee wee football game with 10 year old kids wtf are people gettin so upset about shut the fuck up and enjoy the entertainment geez awesome by the way i love it keep having fun while you can